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oooooooooog: do you have dementia
hikukomoru: I'm not the same age as that brat
st.sioux: they talk about the same 2-3 topics every day all day
hey1_1hey: I would've created it at -3 if they let me
zoermena:
hikukomoru: What same 3 topics
Gooning, Gay shit and ???
hey1_1hey: Its so peak'
technocake.: can you pls do me?
hey1_1hey: Funny looking "man" though <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
oooooooooog: beggar get EXPLODED!!!!!!!!!!!
zoermena: Will do but I’m in class rn give me some minutes
zoermena: Btw if y’all want to request anything just ping me
zoermena: Because I’m not creative
zoermena: Komoru is next
oooooooooog: become a fanfiction writer
oooooooooog: that way you can be craetive
hey1_1hey: Is it only avaible for plus and pro users by chance? Image gent that is
hikukomoru: Yes
st.sioux: yes
hey1_1hey: Explains a lot
hey1_1hey: I am not a paypig
hikukomoru: They're not rolling out to free users any time soon
ailoveyoom: Wow it made u a fanboy even
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
ailoveyoom: 4o knows 🤯
hikukomoru: Mushroom """man"""...
hey1_1hey: I aint paying my £20 to sama. I could get him to suck my dick for that much
st.sioux: they realized we are the VIPs (we give money)
hey1_1hey: True, I think my name just exudes femboy
hikukomoru: "fanboy"
Mushroom fanboy 🍄
hey1_1hey: The new boy band
ailoveyoom: I meant femboy 😭
hey1_1hey: I gathered dw. Komouru is just a weird dyslexic gremlin
.histic: if only they made GPT-4o in the API also be able to output generated images..
money printing machine.
ailoveyoom: Goonus Maximus
hey1_1hey: I can feel the capatalism physically just then
hey1_1hey: On the fly AI gf pictures being sent to you
zoermena: I know lol
hey1_1hey: Thats a free idea for all of you
zoermena: But the image is so good
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metaldragon01: Openai will continue to have the best consumer product
metaldragon01: I doubt they lead the race in 26
trey6033: Proof is in the pudding, I'll believe their reasoning model is better when they show it
brain4brain: The first to reach AGI will likely be OpenIAI, but we don’t know who will reach ASI first
metaldragon01: Agi is looking like google atm
trey6033: I'm basically waiting on this o4 release to get a sense of the state of the race
brain4brain: The same company that said AGI in 10 years lmao
metaldragon01: They are ahead in vision, llm and video
brain4brain: They need to announce o4, I would be disappointed if they just release o4-mini with no info on o4
brain4brain: I want to have another o3 moment
metaldragon01: They also upgrade faster
trey6033: Math (and either comparable to sonnet in coding or ahead)
trey6033: Idk why I used parentheses smh
metaldragon01: Googles leads in math too
brain4brain: They just have faster release cycle, while OpenAI is with big capability jump
metaldragon01: Openai is the apple of ai though so they will stay strong
brain4brain: Yeah, I agree, Google’s AI is best in math right now
trey6033: Gemini 2.5 is honestly an impressive release, it basically wins in most categories and on a lot of benchmarks
brain4brain: No other model compare
metaldragon01: Openai my only sub because it's the best product
trey6033: Also, demis said Veo 2 will eventually be incorporated into Gemini, idk if that means native vid gen, or just that it'll access it in Gemini
brain4brain: No, it’s just tool use
brain4brain: It’s already incorporated for some user on the Gemini app
brain4brain: Tool use for now
brain4brain: Might change for the next model to be native
rayanquitplayin: Hi
trey6033: He meant the Gemini model can use it at least, like how imagen used to be, or how openAI did with theirs
a1c4p0ne:
.histic: i bet they won't ever release full o4.
that'll be named as GPT-5 or something.
brain4brain: I don’t care if they release, I just need new benchmarks before GPT-5
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: LETS GOOOO
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/toronto-raptors-kawhi-leonard-buzzer-beater-pumped-yeah-gif-24126874
spicy.lemonade: Lfgggggg
spicy.lemonade: The final is probably gonna be hard asf
spicy.lemonade: Ok if I get a 100 on final
spicy.lemonade: I get 100 on mt2
a1c4p0ne: Grok rank 1 on reasoning live bench
zoermena: This was my last message some hours ago, I just finished working, maybe 14 hours of freaking going in circles but it’s over
_cloudost:
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shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: so they get something from the government for free and sell it
shirethedreamer: great
shirethedreamer: they are being propped by the gov
zonchao: they dont get it for free, they make EVs to earn these credits
zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040>
shirethedreamer: are you being dense on purpose or do you really not see the point?
zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110> they are literally selling something they earned, to other companies, they pay taxes on selling them
shirethedreamer: when companies make a product - they earn their money by selling said product
when a company is receiving more funds from the government in addition to that its welfare
they didnt earn it
the gov just decided that they are willing to pay to the company to support it
it is welfare
fractalcomputer: It's surprisingly easy to convince certain models that one is a genius.
zonchao: the government is not paying for this, if anything tesla is paying the government
shirethedreamer: how is tesla paying the government?
zonchao: taxes on selling carbon credits
shirethedreamer: lmao
shirethedreamer: which the gov issued
shirethedreamer: lmaoooooooo
shirethedreamer: you are killing
shirethedreamer: meeeeeeee
shirethedreamer: bahaha
zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110>
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295
shirethedreamer: do me a favor zon
shirethedreamer: go on x and ask grok to explain this to you
shirethedreamer: you will believe it more than me even if you are unable to make your own connections
zonchao: they are issued for the EVs they make, it is a simple transaction
shirethedreamer: and food stamps are supplied to low income families for producing children
shirethedreamer: simple transaction
shirethedreamer: its welfare my dude
zonchao: <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>
hey1_1hey: Its 4d chess obv
hey1_1hey: You just aren't smart enough to understand it
xskydragon0: Hey Guys, Do you know some articles about AI?
BTW I'm believe you already read this article, right? (https://ai-2027.com/)
okbut: Buy the dip dot com
shirethedreamer: you will love those ones too
https://situational-awareness.ai/
https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace
shirethedreamer: https://ia.samaltman.com/
spicy.lemonade: The prophecy
spicy.lemonade: The Bible
spicy.lemonade: The scripture
shirethedreamer: we are not beating the allegations
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950
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memlaswaif: <@471334973379706900> r u rich
callmepyro: The statement that francois made applies equally to AA1 and AA2. Unlimited compute (and budget) means you will always be able to 100% any benchmark
spicy.lemonade: some would say
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
callmepyro: So the only interesting thing possible is to do it cheaply. It's so crazy to me that you're arguing for brute force discrete program search as 'beating' a benchmark
callmepyro: Because it's such a weak standard... every benchmark is always beaten instantly in your world. Why bother? It's a useless metric
spicy.lemonade: obviously thats not what i mean
spicy.lemonade: taking alot of compute to do something
spicy.lemonade: and bruteforcing isnt the same
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
spicy.lemonade: one involves trying undefined amount of wrong answers till you get marked as correct
callmepyro: $1 million of compute is basically that
spicy.lemonade: other involves thinking hard about answer for alot
spicy.lemonade: and geting right in the end
spicy.lemonade: one based on real heuristics
callmepyro: I agree with francois. Intelligence is about finding the efficient program in very few hops
callmepyro: An LLM that takes hundreds of millions of hops in order to find the answer for a benchmark has certainly not saturated that benchmark
memlaswaif: If u could give an sub 80iq guy unlimited money and unlimited time to cure cancer how much time and money would it take
callmepyro: Not as long as an infinite amount of monkeys
callmepyro: A better analogy might be trying to search the library of babel for the answer to a question.
spicy.lemonade: average ceo
thedon7075:
thedon7075: deepseek delivers again
professorheaven: I think it’s likely that 3.7 sonnet and 4.5 is trained on some synthetic data from reasoning models as well judging by the convos I’ve had with them
destrucules: Scores between Claude 3.7 Sonnet and GPT-4.5, definitely in the GPT-4.5 regime, on general benchmarks, and then outperforms GPT-4.5 and Claude 3.7 Sonnet on maths and coding
spicy.lemonade: overall better than 3.7
spicy.lemonade: heavily optimized for math
spicy.lemonade: nice
spicy.lemonade: though im never using a non reasoning model for math
spicy.lemonade: lol
ldj: 3.7 yes, since it's a hybrid model its basically confirmed trained reasoning data yea
4.5 we're unsure of though
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah but this is because it's supposed to measure what anyone can achieve
alejandrozarzuelo: Not what anyone does achieve
ldj: I'll look more into the benchmarks tm tho
spicy.lemonade: ig
alejandrozarzuelo: But the average person could get a PhD
alejandrozarzuelo: No
spicy.lemonade: how
alejandrozarzuelo: Because just because someone hasn't put the effort themselves into maximising their logic, doesn't mean that they couldn't do it if they wanted
Thus, the line to beat is the one of 100% arc-2, possibly a new arc-3 will be created where groups of humans don't get 100% but instead like 80% and that 80% will be the score to beat
spicy.lemonade: maybe 90% then
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theaiguy69420_89814: Anyway this can be solved? Like, maybe ephemeral auth for the dev to have autonomy to update the client's cloud env?
theaiguy69420_89814: Like, notifications saying "this client wants to add this feature to your app, should we deploy?" Kind of deal
theaiguy69420_89814: Make it ELI5
destrucules: I desperately hope they aren't gonna delete the weights. Even if they take it offline, please for the love of fuck, do not delete it
destrucules: <@590577270926868480> I mean I did also feel like they'd release 4.1 nano on HF but... I guess it'll be a different model
st.sioux: do u mean something like this but with push notifications
https://vercel.com/docs/rbac
ldj: The article is saying they have AI that can come up with new ideas, but I would say O1 and GPT-4.5 are already able to come up with new ideas. iirc the "Leaks" aren't that detailed and not very falsifiable imo
a1c4p0ne: 4.5 not for plebs <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:based:1136264604788473946>
hikukomoru: Thas me
.histic: that was a reasoning model.
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/BigTechAlert/status/1911872102392570291?
spicy.lemonade: never said that
.histic: actually, I don't know if it's a reasoning model, but the standard would be an open-source model on par with o3-mini. they recently did an event getting in-person feedback for this open-source model. I think they aren't ready to release it or it's still in development (most likely).
futurist_wizard: Larry Ellison not cool
wellmeaningalien: <:lol:1361435242774397151> retard?
wellmeaningalien: tbh after comparing the benchmarks of gpt 4.1 vs everything else it's not that bad of a model but for it's price its meh
wellmeaningalien: especially compared to gemini offerings
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: hard
st.sioux: burger dog
destrucules: Anyone play with the 4.1 models yet? What's the vibe, especially for the smaller ones?
wellmeaningalien: whats going on google deepmind
destrucules: Imo 4.1 nano does not pass the vibe check
destrucules: 4.1 mini does
st.sioux: did they update their models page in the developer site?
destrucules: Lmao they made a typo in the context length
destrucules: It's 1048576, not 1047576
destrucules: Also May 2024? Bruh. That's so long ago 😭
sieventer: 2.5 Pro has 65k output max output tokens
futurist_wizard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7blFVMmqzdk
futurist_wizard: bodybuilder man
futurist_wizard: upload
himekokatagiri: Okay what else is OAI gonna announce
himekokatagiri: It's an entire week right
himekokatagiri: cope mode on
gamerbath: bodybuilder? he looks more like a headbuilder
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/asmon-asmongold-asmon-gold-streamer-gif-14367015105928358791
hey1_1hey: Mike isratel is one of my favourite "AI" youtubers.
hey1_1hey: He just has so many based takes
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/testingcatalog/status/1911880835994694133
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ailoveyoom: Only 30s snippets but 🤤
trent_k: I just had to save a little girl from getting bit by a goose
ailoveyoom: I thought you were older ngl
ailoveyoom: So you're still around uni age?
zonchao: > People are so rude to them. They're not so bad
trojan09205: Ive been using suno since its launch
Theres a ghettorigged api on github i used to integrate suno into a multi modal workflow
In general i think suno is great im sure the newer releases are fire
ailoveyoom: Have you treid Udio?
ailoveyoom: 🙏
hikukomoru: Trump will still throw Ukraine under the bus either way
trojan09205: Yes I have
trojan09205: Udio is also good
fractalcomputer: My God, coitus has been solved.
trojan09205: Theres also another one i tried lemme see if i can find the bookmark
precariousworlds.: Potentially but this is a very positive development and a firm commitment to the freedom of Ukraine
trojan09205: Cant find it 😦
fractalcomputer: I think it's nonsensical to claim that there are *n* number of physical objects present in a given quotidian situation; say, three or seven books on a table. You can't do anything with them. You can't define an algebraic operation on books, can you?
trojan09205: Wat yes you can
fractalcomputer: You can certainly come up with some set and index the members of that set by some set that you call those books and then come up with some algebra on that set; but notice that you're never doing anything to the books themselves.
zonchao: BREAKING: https://x.com/gork/status/1917983736391712877? @gork CONFIRMED TO BE ELAN
hikukomoru: Hopefully
This is a very Precarious situation
fractalcomputer: The moment you start thinking about *numbers* of all things you've lost touch with reality.
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016878827126919168/1367542218751082516/Gp1HIyPXcAAGzXj.png?ex=6814f670&is=6813a4f0&hm=03be0dacdc12c14ec0070d6343404d344b089076a284d396168f86498665cc19&
oooooooooog: this is what i say to my mathimatician friends
fractalcomputer: I hope they take it kindly.
precariousworlds.: You could almost say we live in a Precarious World
oooooooooog: they do, because they just turn it into numbers, which are one of their favorite things
precariousworlds.: o7
futurist_wizard: Bot rizz
precariousworlds.: dicks out for gpt-4
precariousworlds.: rip
himekokatagiri:
fractalcomputer: Now, suppose I separate those books by some distance. Has anything changed? Are there still two or whatever books?
oooooooooog: the books probably had some of their molecules scraped away
fractalcomputer: Tangentially, yes; however, that is not the point. The point is to highlight how ridiculous it is to think that mathematics can be used to describe physical reality in a genuinely meaningful sense.
futurist_wizard: I support book burning, I'm tired of readers
ailoveyoom: Numbers are fake tho
ailoveyoom: It's an abstraction
himekokatagiri: where is ittttt
himekokatagiri: 😭
ailoveyoom: It's one of those niche Google Labs things
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spicy.lemonade: 2 days till agi
zoermena: That’s the date for the release of the new o models?
drewsni: Image mainly? So not trying to take on X lol
abundantliving_: Someone will need to comment on the images
st.sioux: it will be a vibe-based social media
abundantliving_: Then some comment will be very popular
abundantliving_: Then it will become x
abundantliving_: I hope it's not completely like imgur
abundantliving_: Or pinterest
abundantliving_: If images can be posted . We might have text as well . Otherwise it will text on images
abundantliving_: 9gag 😂
spicy.lemonade: Yes
zoermena: So Thursday
fractalcomputer: What is with these nonsensical accounts in the replies of every relatively popular tweet?
spicy.lemonade: They already have this
spicy.lemonade: It’s sora
spicy.lemonade: Likeley going to be more like Twitter
fractalcomputer: Thought Leadership in AI for Humanity's Next Leap?
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/tyrion-lannister-game-of-thrones-go-t-season5-puke-gif-4050714
st.sioux: there are a lot of bots on X
fractalcomputer: I don't imagine that they'd choose an Indian name to lead their bot operation.
abundantliving_: Basilisk might be at play here
abundantliving_: Trying to get popularity. X does pay weekly. I guess that's why people are trying to get on hype train to get popular and earn
zonchao: the final battle
zonchao: https://x.com/BigImpactHumans/status/1912180636770537556
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912127487343235186
sieventer: lmao
sieventer: Interesting
shirethedreamer: or he could have been spending too much time online
sieventer: Brainrotted confirmed
sieventer: xD
shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: gotta say though
shirethedreamer: i am getting final boss kinda vibes from him
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254
.histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912049232984653961
.histic: he's posting lots of tweets now... https://x.com/Jiankui_He
_cloudost: <@505313122802728972> hacked his account
_cloudost: And tweeted this
_cloudost: SMH
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himekokatagiri: no just no
brain4brain: New doubling of 4 months is emerging
zoermena: Era of experience god damn bro <:chefsKiss:723690537722445957>
himekokatagiri: 🚬
spacetimetsunami:
wolf3404: The extrpooooolatoor
spicy.lemonade: all the "claude 3.5 is way better than openAI models" people turned into gemini 2.5 people
otub: claude 4 is months away
otub: rip anthropic
metaldragon01: Only gpt 5 on the horizon. Google will continue to update every other month as well though
metaldragon01: I think sonnet 4 could take the coding crown until gemini 3 drops.
spicy.lemonade: Google will only change to Gemini 3.0 for something fundamental I think
spicy.lemonade: Like the change from 2.0 to 2.5 was somewhat fundamental
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning
metaldragon01: They'll do it on schedule
st.sioux: i just hope they make sonnet cheap
st.sioux: its all iask for mr anthropic
st.sioux: 🙏
spicy.lemonade: Sonnet always expensive asf
metaldragon01: Anthropic is in a weird spot but they've pulled through worse.
metaldragon01: Hopefully no more haiku 3 shenanigans
professorheaven: But does this only take into account scale ups of current techniques and training methods? Like I’d assume once a reliable AI researcher is created and then duplicated thousands of times, we’d be seeing doubling every week or two and these timelines would reduce significantly
destrucules: Claude 3 Haiku was a good model. You're probably thinking of the fiasco with Claude 3.5 Haiku both underperforming and costing more than expected
ldj: This takes into account the exponential trend that has formed since GPT-2 to O1 and Claude-3.5.
About half of the progress from compute scaling, the other half from algorithmic advances
ldj: but ofc we can't know the future
ldj: I could see several arguments as to why things might slow down and it wont keep this pace, but I could also see many arguments (probably even more-so) for why it would become even faster than this
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
destrucules: I'll make a public bet with you that we hit 95%@4 years by 2028
metaldragon01: Ai is helping most areas speed up and this is only going to keep compounding as ai progresses
metaldragon01: The best part of AI progress is how the floor gets raised
destrucules: We know GPT-3.5, from 2022, is capable of highly robust agency across several billion tokens of total time horizon, with no signs of meaningful degradation after that amount of time. I'm pretty sure coherency over several *billion* tokens means we're talking about fairly high reliability over multiple years.
destrucules: Like, >90% over >4 years was already achieved as of 2022 and quite possibly as of 2020
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Cool
spicy.lemonade: Had same thought process as human
professorheaven: <@471334973379706900> you ignoring this?
spicy.lemonade: What am I supposed to say💀
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trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487
nsec: pov u live in europe
nsec:
nsec: anglo supremacy
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: there do be being many such cases
trojan09205: How can spain/portugal justify any of its spending on random stuff if they cant even get this right
trojan09205: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
aero447: France.
aero447: Don't forget them.
aero447: Lmao.
nsec: where are the ppl posting from they phones
nsec: do u srsly not charge ur phones
trojan09205: Preppers are probably so happy rn lol
_3sphere: No signal
aero447:
aero447: 🤣
_3sphere: Only satellite phones would work and you'd need a friend elsewhere to post it on Twi/shitter
_3sphere: Factorio
aero447: <@750270494615404544> Shill Starlink.
nsec: use ur iphone
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/collapse/s/1USe4ewSUB
I just saw it rn, wonder what might have caused it
nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>
_3sphere: Fair point
nsec: spanish wiggas hate iphones
_3sphere: r/collapse is on it first? 😭
hey1_1hey: Of course its from r/collapse <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
nsec: they successfully predicted 400 of the last four disasters
hey1_1hey: The dueality of man, scared of collapse so you make a subreddit for it but happy when it happnes because it means you get to say "I told you so"
nsec: genisues
nsec: <:veryyes:773617399660412960>
_3sphere: Ok but they do have a point about climate change and ecosystem instability
_3sphere: Without some countermeasure we're kinda done for
nsec: u sound like a defeatist whiny lil bitch
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
_3sphere: (this civilization, not humanity as a whole)
.wolfnacht: They and r/preppersintel are the most paranoid subs
hey1_1hey: Thats a new one to me. That one unironcailly sounds like a home for paranoid schziophrenics
_3sphere: Because I am a whiny lil bitch 😔 🥺
nsec: build more advanced resistances
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.histic: AI slumber
.histic: wake me up in 1-2 months.
oooooooooog: he's saying AGI imminent
oooooooooog: obviously
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, basically there’s been nothing in history to ever happened that might help us make decisions about what to do about them being like that. They will be entities.
Don’t have the context but he’s probably talking about other models, talking about super alignment even, perhaps
spicy.lemonade: hes not talking about new AI models
spicy.lemonade: hes talking about new models of society
spacetimetsunami: Oh you watched the vid
spacetimetsunami: Oh okay yeah
spacetimetsunami: Makes more sense
destrucules: By "I suspect we'll have to figure out new models" he's talking about economic models, not AI models
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I’ve realized that now
brain4brain: Exactly, I was so confused at first that I have to give it to ChatGPT
brain4brain: And then it explain in a clear way to me
spicy.lemonade: bro is always ready to doom
spicy.lemonade: sheesh
brain4brain: Giving the whole video to Gemini’s right now, 700,000 tokens is wild
brain4brain: ?
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2 pro will be insane
spicy.lemonade: when released
spicy.lemonade: officialy
spicy.lemonade: 2.0 pro thinking even better
zonchao: will be truly insane, nobody would know it was released
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
spacetimetsunami: I’m just pumped for gpt 5, the next huge thing to heat shit up
spacetimetsunami: R2 will do that a bit tho I assume
oooooooooog: gpt 5 2025? if the pattern hold that would make gpt 6 2026
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4 didnt vome out in 2024
oooooooooog: i'm not including that in the sample as it is an outlier
bedros_p: I'm just pumped for gpt zorbillion
bedros_p: Slorpizillion
oooooooooog: how much is a slorpizillion
oooooooooog: 10^slorp ?
bedros_p: Yes
brain4brain: It’s so over, “a small numbers of years” rather than 2025 in his last interview
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
zonchao: sama lost the mandate
brain4brain: 2025er must stay strong 😔
WAGMI. WAGMI 😭
oooooooooog: WAGMIEFY
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182
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zoermena: Im not surprised
archon.e: AI generated
fuhulootogan: really?
fractalcomputer: Preferably by lethal injection or firing squad, but a very high cliff would do as well.
hikukomoru: I don't have a brian
st.sioux: the mexican government is not very transparent
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but AI generated based on how you look or nah
archon.e: People often tell me they feel Im much younger when they talk with me in discord
fuhulootogan: yeah
archon.e: kinda. Im indian
fuhulootogan: you do feel much younger
archon.e: long hair
archon.e: i have a similar shirt
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> Hi 👋
zonchao: hello
fuhulootogan: just add your picture then
fuhulootogan: must be you
alejandrozarzuelo: the goverments of emerging countries are...
lets say... very "old fashioned" when it comes to their demographic assumptions
fractalcomputer: It is also generally considered morally acceptable to treat applied mathematicians as vermin subhumans - generally by people who agree with me.
hikukomoru: Wasn't talking to you bish
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
alejandrozarzuelo: are you also hot or nah
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-kung-fu-cat-eat-eating-gif-22080493
fractalcomputer: *We* hate applied mathematicians. We think that they are responsible for every possible ailment of mankind.
a1c4p0ne: Brazen bull method is better
archon.e: I cant be the judge of that
hikukomoru: Alejandro please stop flirting with random guys
zonchao: fent laced urine from drones>>>>>
fuhulootogan: fent
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358>
hikukomoru: What place is that
archon.e: somewhere in paris
alejandrozarzuelo: nah its just that his pfp is supermodel level shit and maybe he is just an uggo
fractalcomputer: Oh yes, I am familiar with the method. Fittingly excruciating for the worst of the worst, i.e., those idiots that happened to get into applied mathematics.
alejandrozarzuelo: nice pic
alejandrozarzuelo: ok he aint an uggo
a1c4p0ne: My favorite
alejandrozarzuelo: BRUH
SIS
MATE
GURL
archon.e: I could look liek that if I worked out and get chiselled I guess
a1c4p0ne: They need to bring it back
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ldj: I've never once called you a luddite
anathemaofmankind: You implied it
ldj: in that case, I can say "you implied support of luddites in those messages"
spicy.lemonade: Drop on weekends is funny
anathemaofmankind: I know what an nft is. I'm saying its use cases are nonexistent in real world terms.
It makes stuff "unique" through tokens in a blockchain, but you can just right click + paste their so called unique art pieces.
It's just worthless meta data
ldj: saying "I was just being realistic" is not a productive response either, as anyone can say that about any point, just as me or Dario can equally say that Dario was just being realistic in the claims that you called ridiculous.
ldj: claiming something is realistic doesn't prove something about anything
.histic: here's a comparison for other labs
st.sioux: can you check aistudio.google
st.sioux: i would do it myself but idk what youre using
anathemaofmankind: I was critiquing how current AI methods worked because I wanted more progress in the industry.
A luddite would want for the opposite.
I still believe that we need more breakthroughs for AGI
.histic: far less than Gemini's main website.
st.sioux: damn, i was asking because i was wondering how many people knew about it
st.sioux: its basically a better and free version of gemini AND gemini advanced
ldj: I was pointing out how you called a perceived lack of progress as "disappointing"
If I was implying you were a luddite, then I wouldn't have pointed that out, since a luddite would be happy by a lack of AI progress, not disappointed by it.
.histic: yeah, Google splitting them both isn't the best marketing choice lol
mihrcelium: Cool opinion, bro. So you have no idea how the fine art industry has embraced generative media over the last half decade, no idea how it has utilized blockchain technology to create markets specifically for digital and gen media, and no familiarity with the fine art space at all as indicated by your commentary. But you're attempting to argue with such strong conviction from a place of ignorance.
You're no different than the obnoxious anti-AI crowd on Reddit.
.histic: when you search 'Gemini chatbot' on Google, it shows google.gemini.com
.histic: 🤫 but that's a good thing, since they won't rate limit the shit out of that website.
mihrcelium: It is ultimately unproductive to argue with luddites who are convinced they know enough to not know anything more than what they know.
st.sioux: right
anathemaofmankind: That's not even remotely true lol.
AI can literally be used to solve cancer. And people shit on it. NFTs are basically a nothingburger. Muh "blockchain".
Come back when blockchain has won someone a nobel prize
mihrcelium: So we've gone from "show me a use case" to "it has to solve cancer or it's nothing."
mihrcelium: That only took a few comments. What an argumentative downgrade.
mihrcelium: Or in other words, moving goalposts.
anathemaofmankind: You completely misread my point.
I'm saying AI has comparatively greater use cases compared to NFTs which have none
anathemaofmankind: Do you have reading comprehension
seventales: o4 iamge is awesome
mihrcelium: I have repeatedly shown you the use case. The largest art brokers in the world use blockchain tech to sell gen art.
.histic: new Sam tweet
https://x.com/sama/status/1906210479695126886
mihrcelium: Do *you* have reading comprehension, <@578146630222741504>?
anathemaofmankind: AI art. What part of this necessitates nfts. Which is what I was asking
anathemaofmankind:
drewsni: ok sama ill sleep
ldj: It's prob best to not engage, they tend to just ignore information that provides answers to there questions, and/or change goal posts of the conversation (as you can probably already tell)
ldj: gn yall <:Salute:985763666798444574>
mihrcelium: It does not "necessitate it." I am sure it could be done otherwise, and it has been. But blockchain is what Sotheby's and others use for generative media, and has for well over 5 years now.
.histic: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> no make him melt his GPUs
mihrcelium: You asked for a use case. I gave you one. Are you going to acknowledge that, <@578146630222741504>, are continue revealing you don't have the capacity to acknowledge being wrong?
anathemaofmankind: I didn't ignore information. Mihr can't give me an actual use case.
It's just "oh big organizations sell this".
So do mineral rocks that get claimed to rejuvenate people but do nothing
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.wolfnacht: didn't the Active Params shifts ? from memory to gpu based on which expert u asked for ?
metaldragon01: I feel confident in predicting at least 1 qwen model will top all claude models on livebench.ai
ldj: Thats for all parameters
ldj: or do you mean RAM to VRAM?
ldj: or you mean VRAM to GPU chip?
.wolfnacht: ah i see
.wolfnacht: i meant ram to vram
ldj: But either way, the experts used changes at every layer for every token.
even for a single token you'll often end up using a bit of every single expert, especially for a full sentence or response.
The reason for having it in VRAM is so you can have the parameters ready to be activated asap because the speed at which the memory can transfer the information is way slower than the actual speed that the GPU can compute.
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Gemini 3.0 pro wen
gamerbath: UwU
trojan09205: So i did something i usually dont do
trojan09205: Followed along a linkedIn post encouraging people to try making a movie poster of themselves based on what chatGPT knows about them
trojan09205:
trojan09205: Me ⬆️ lol 😂
destrucules: Before you act shocked, Cogito 32B v1 is already at Claude 3.5 Sonnet level and the reasoning mode brings it up to the V3.1 class
destrucules: Q3-30A3B should match Q2.5-32B
clevermoniker: Hm i see. That's pretty cool
ldj: To be clear I was talking about Q3–32B being higher quality than Q3-30B3A
ldj: (Both are coming)
ldj: 14B dense also
alejandrozarzuelo: Not really
alejandrozarzuelo: Things are starting to work
fractalcomputer: For once on the Iberian peninsula.
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao this is a 10 year prediction that is already wrong
.wolfnacht: is blackouts finally gone ?
alejandrozarzuelo: Eh
alejandrozarzuelo: It's still intermittent
alejandrozarzuelo: Can anyone confirm if the best Qwen 3 model is on par with Gemini 2.5 and o3?
destrucules: There's a 32B dense? I didn't see it in the leaked modelscope. Then again, I didn't see the 15A2B that was leaked a month ago either.
ldj: it's not in the leaked model scope correct
destrucules: The 235A22B with Reasoning might be close but probably not quite quite on par.
ldj: No benchmarks are available yet
ldj: so there is no answer to that yet
zoermena: El apagón tiene disfunción eréctil
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
destrucules: Just going off of Qwen2.5 efficiency and scaling to 2x tokens tho, and then doing the geometric mean thing for the MoE, it should be roughly in that 80 MMLU-Pro bracket with GPT-4.1 and Llama 4 Maverick and Grok 3 and Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Gemini 2.5 Flash and Gemini 2.0 Pro and DeepSeek V3 0324. Maybe slightly shy of it, like Gemini 2.0 Flash and GPT-4.1 mini and Qwen2.5-Max.
destrucules: So reasoning performance on par with like, Gemini 2.5 Flash and Claude 3.7 Sonnet (i.e. o1 Pro level) is what I expect
metaldragon01: The moe or 32b dense
destrucules: The big big moe
destrucules: 235A22B
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maintcrew: u can see this when the uk and france tried to annex the suez canal
maintcrew: and the us basically slapped them and told no
maintcrew: thats understood as the moment when the old powers lost their life and are now under us power and cant do anything without their say
maintcrew: that was a long time ago tho
maintcrew: current europe has a strong-ish economy but not strong enough to make them a super power or allow them any say anywhere
maintcrew: anyways why am i saying this i even forgot the original premise 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: thats not what happened
alejandrozarzuelo: the soviet union slapped and told them no, and the US at a fear of basically handing the entire planet to the soviet sphere of influence performatively also told them no
maintcrew: i mean that was the takeaway i had when i read about it but i guess its more nuanced
maintcrew: fair to say that was the moment eu was shown to not be independent anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: it was the soviets who made the first move because they hated colonialism, the US was ok with that but if they didnt do anything they woud be seen as pro colonial
alejandrozarzuelo: there was no EU, and the soviet union was a mostly european affair
alejandrozarzuelo: the empires were bound to be lost
maintcrew: i mean tbh the un security council resolution was at the request of the us
maintcrew: im reading the wikipedia page but im on phone and skimming a bit
maintcrew: ill just take ur words as true
alejandrozarzuelo: the UN security council was supposed to be just the US and soviet union because neither agreed on an organization where they didnt hold any veto
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I hate this guy
alejandrozarzuelo: the UK said: ok if you dont include me dont hope to have me in the union
spicy.lemonade: He’s gonna delete this
spicy.lemonade: He deletes all his predictions 3 hours later
spicy.lemonade: Just for engagement bait
alejandrozarzuelo: then the soviet union went like: include france or i am leaving (france was an anti US capitalist country)
alejandrozarzuelo: long live la france
alejandrozarzuelo: and then china was included after the defeat of Japan
maintcrew: honestly just ussr and the us wouldve made more sense
maintcrew: current members make no sense
alejandrozarzuelo: old members did make sens
alejandrozarzuelo: the UK still held 30% of the global population
alejandrozarzuelo: and france 15%
maintcrew: yea but it was a facade
maintcrew: a mirage of control no?
alejandrozarzuelo: no, not in 1945, yes in 1960
maintcrew: ok understandable
alejandrozarzuelo: but they stayed because changing who was in the UNSC would be bound for dispute
alejandrozarzuelo: the USSR pushed the UN to give the british seat to India on the basis that they only got the seat because of how populated india was
maintcrew: tangential but whoever thought of the veto power was wise af
alejandrozarzuelo: (also because India was a soviet ally)
alejandrozarzuelo: but the US said no
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supersteve8000: ^*
supersteve8000: x
clevermoniker: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
clevermoniker: 👆
metaldragon01: If we get AGI I think it happens fall at soonest
supersteve8000: the fall has begun
clevermoniker: I think Very late 2026 at the earliest so far
clevermoniker: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: oh no the luddites have arrived
supersteve8000: i feel *2028* will be peak
metaldragon01: Computer use, vision, memory main bottlenecks
metaldragon01: Vision is the big one for me
supersteve8000: remember to use: emoji's
supersteve8000: 🩵
supersteve8000: *witter -ly* [ wink ]
clevermoniker: time to get your premium copium <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
supersteve8000: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
clevermoniker: uh, what?
supersteve8000: wassup?
supersteve8000: just intuition
clevermoniker: what do you mean by 2028 being peak?
supersteve8000: imagine if we are this advanced now
supersteve8000: *push it ++ years*
supersteve8000: *
brain4brain: EOY 2025
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> ||no||
supersteve8000: i feel like it is, uh
supersteve8000: well not mine but
supersteve8000: *awake*
brain4brain: ||yes|| <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
supersteve8000: anyways...
supersteve8000: xD
otub: 2027
supersteve8000: base
otub: cause i said so
supersteve8000: - d
clevermoniker: I think 2027-28 for higher than not chance
clevermoniker: still could drag to 2030
clevermoniker: hopefully not tho
clevermoniker: tired of this stupid era
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technocake.: c5 tetraplegia, nothing a neuralink v3 won't fix
trojan09205: In my case it knows that i work in the agriculture industry and with drones lol i think thats why it put them in there
technocake.: yeah i have given it a whole bunch of medical info, very useful
trojan09205: I don't know how to respond except to say that I am sorry for your difficulties homie
.wolfnacht: try using chub.ai or janitorai.com, find some character card, paste your openrouter key inside chat settings and then try that, they usually provide system prompts and especially everyone's using V3 so it should be compatible.
clevermoniker: I will check it out then, thanks
trojan09205: It's pretty wild how it leverages the past conversations in new ones. i wonder if they have a little RAG memory table storing specific facts on us
technocake.: all good, it's my reality andd im still doing well, thanks though
trojan09205: You are strong bro and inspiring
clevermoniker: <@834891518836736010> i don't have any problem with using OR tho anyways
.wolfnacht: yep just chub.ai is more depraved than janny bcz of 4chan audience
trojan09205: What's the deal with the resonance and soulish sky vibes though haha
.wolfnacht: OR is great only for general purpose or making it write code.
clevermoniker: if you are just doing a chat RP its fine too
clevermoniker: never felt like i was missing anything
clevermoniker: since DeepSeek's new model is coming out very soon i might not even bother with Google's, last time i used one of those i didn't like how it wrote anyways
clevermoniker: It was kinda more consistent and that's about it
.wolfnacht: u can also try them but they are a bit censored after getting smacked by card processors
https://yodayo.com/tavern?sort=trending&interval
trojan09205: This music legit put me and my dogs into deep sleep
https://www.calm.com/player/jMpm3xinQR?share_token=v2bo8OBKm9zuGuItZEpr6fpgcV0mUYK_BmKUKZLJ8Wq_r47pKIB19uiPHJ79KKGMQxRxHQHvdE00EXp9KiIBTZHGHo3XNomiWkpviG-ZclohljQdM1OQvTYjzk_1rHL_vZg
clevermoniker: Main problem with V3.1 compared to say, GPT 4.1 is consistency, a bit better memory and prompt following. I like DeepSeek's writing style more
clevermoniker: I assume GPT 4.1 is the best overall RP model (but censored sadly)
clevermoniker: I think the new DeepSeek model will get close to that probably (if not better) so, yeah, pretty good
clevermoniker: https://cloud.google.com/transform/101-real-world-generative-ai-use-cases-from-industry-leaders
technocake.: ambient especially modular synth is goated for sleep
maintcrew: i hate the term gen ai i hate gen ai i hate gen ai i hate gen ai
trojan09205: I got a free subscription to this Calm app with my meta raybans and i dont really use the meditations or stories stuff but the sounds and relaxing music is fire
.wolfnacht: they need better multi-turn training till 160k ctx
clevermoniker: yes, V3.1 drifts in style/format the longer it goes on
clevermoniker: very sad since i like how it writes
clevermoniker: and its basically uncensored (except china stuff)
.wolfnacht: Also that same sentence structure and certain verbatims it catches and refuse to refresh..it makes deepseek annoying for long run
clevermoniker: yeah, that's noticeable too, i let it slide because it at least switches it up a bit, unlike older models which would have just repeated things copy paste
.wolfnacht: it's still great if u wanna just write a smut story when feeling heat, otherwise for longer and meaningful rp's it's not that good rn, but maybe in future they would make it better
clevermoniker: i doubt it will be completely fixed next release but hey, improvement is improvement
clevermoniker: So, since you have used 2.5 pro for RP, can you tell me about it?
clevermoniker: how good is it? also which are its problems?
.wolfnacht: maybe from going to incohency at 20k to 45k at R2 or next V3 would still be a big jump
.wolfnacht: it can go till 300k maybe even more, i haven't tested it after that, needle in haystack part is real, your characters will recall all the older details
clevermoniker: wow, that's pretty good
clevermoniker: what about the problems it has?
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alejandrozarzuelo: not in the traditional sense
spicy.lemonade: I think when people say that they mean not transformer lol
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, thats like calling a cybertruck and a 18th century carriage both cars
alejandrozarzuelo: they are both cars, yes
alejandrozarzuelo: but like
alejandrozarzuelo: uhh
alejandrozarzuelo: not really the same
spicy.lemonade: i think people are expecting some random fundementaly new thing
st.sioux: dumpster
spicy.lemonade: I agree though
spicy.lemonade: new things stacked ontop of llms is the way
czdct: I'd rather have an old carriage than a cybertruck
spicy.lemonade: switching parts
spicy.lemonade: optimizing
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
czdct: at least the carriage doesn't catch fire out of nowhere
st.sioux: we dont tolerate zaddy muskkk slander here
spicy.lemonade: I do
alejandrozarzuelo: does anyobe know if chomsky has said anything about LLMs?
it kinda vindicates his whole life's worl
alejandrozarzuelo: but he is also an almost 100yr old man so idk
czdct: mb
czdct: I like him though
czdct: all the things he's doing to the usa right now
st.sioux: Yes, Noam Chomsky has expressed his views on large language models (LLMs) like ChatGPT. He acknowledges their engineering achievements but maintains that they do not contribute to our scientific understanding of human language acquisition. Chomsky argues that LLMs operate by analyzing vast amounts of data to predict word sequences, a method fundamentally different from how humans learn language. He emphasizes that human language acquisition involves innate structures and principles not replicated by these models. Chomsky also notes that LLMs can process both possible and impossible languages—those that humans cannot naturally acquire—indicating that these models do not shed light on the unique aspects of human linguistic capabilities.
czdct: he should do more
spacetimetsunami: Wow, dumby confirmed
spicy.lemonade: 😭
st.sioux: straight to guantanmo
czdct: elon isn't dumb
spacetimetsunami: Thank you for the flare
spacetimetsunami: It is a dumb thing to believe that what he’s doing right now, politically, is good.
czdct: no no no
czdct: you don't understand me
spacetimetsunami: Maybe not
czdct: I never said that what he's doing to the country is good
czdct: quite the opposite actually
czdct: he's destroying centuries old institutions
spacetimetsunami: Yes, he is
spacetimetsunami: Why say this
czdct: but the american people want this
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futurist_wizard: Can a great dane and a jack Russell breed
alejandrozarzuelo: so, its not a de-extinction, but so what? its a NEW SPECIES we created
st.sioux: my source is: schizo
wellmeaningalien: yea bro
alejandrozarzuelo: thats actually cooler in my opinion
anathemaofmankind: Imagine if ethical laws over human experimentation wasn't illegal.
We could have hybrid people right now
alejandrozarzuelo: hank green is a reputable source
hikukomoru: When can we start buying one of those direwolves
hikukomoru: I want one
wellmeaningalien: source: can i put my baaalls in ur jawww ballllssss in ur jawwww can iii can iiii can ii can iiii
wellmeaningalien: jiankui he save us 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: i told you the source is a reputable divulgator
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: haha
st.sioux: divulgator ofnuts
wellmeaningalien: <:KaguYo:1356167176956153896>
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
wellmeaningalien: boom roasted
futurist_wizard: Why is this dire wolf news even important beyond novelty
hikukomoru: Catgirls 😳
himekokatagiri: How can I get the purple role
alejandrozarzuelo: they explain it on their video
forallhumanity: This is fake
himekokatagiri: clearly only the purple people here are trustworthy
wellmeaningalien: because its effectively the first species that was brought back from extinction thru gene editing
himekokatagiri: how can I trust someone that doesn't have an anime girl pfp
hikukomoru: Kiss Fractal
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
alejandrozarzuelo: basically, these techniques will be useful to de-extinct species in the future so that ecosystems dont die
hikukomoru: They're cute
hikukomoru: That's all that matters
anathemaofmankind: Who cares
futurist_wizard:
himekokatagiri: personal space komoru chan
futurist_wizard:
himekokatagiri: what's wrong with anime
alejandrozarzuelo: people who want to live in an ecosystem?
hikukomoru: No 🫦 🫦
alejandrozarzuelo: like everyone?
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/steaming-stressed-stress-girl-anime-gif-9411558708912965904
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technocake.: tf is pink
_cloudost: Veo 2 when doe
_cloudost: I need veo
_cloudost: Been waiting for months
metaldragon01: Very soon from what I can tell
_cloudost: 5 months ago they said early 2025, now it's almost mid 2025 and still no Veo 2
_cloudost: Nothing ever happens
spicy.lemonade: google is stuck in experimental
spicy.lemonade: they will prob announce veo 3
_cloudost: Veo 3 will destroy the movie industry
_cloudost: Veo 4 will be better and more interesting doe
st.sioux: what about veo 5
spicy.lemonade: no
futurist_wizard: Veo 6 shows the life you could've lived
st.sioux: another day another chance to daydream about a future with dakota johnson
_cloudost:
.wolfnacht: maybe pichai is saving it, when sama brings gpt5.
futurist_wizard:
inferno0879: alright but why is iq test written on the back
futurist_wizard: You need a very high IQ to understand the reasoning behind that
inferno0879: 🤤
.histic: ooga booga
retrerox: Shall we make a poll if AI Sttreamers gonna make bigger boobs?
technocake.: hes japanese
.histic: this doesn't feel AI.
.histic: also, she has 2k viewers yet only has 18k followers.
wow
wellmeaningalien: who actually gets aroused by this
wellmeaningalien: damn bro.
.histic: yeah, she's definitely not AI.
just flesh.
.histic: wait..
.histic: her chat is dead AF yet she has 3k viewers now!
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> viewbots?
st.sioux: her viewers cant use their hands to type
.histic: she's fluctuating from 1.5k to 3k
.histic: that's weird
wellmeaningalien: GOD
brain4brain: The real reason Yann shit on LLM is because his own company LLM is shit and behind compared to every other company
.histic: LLama 4 is alright for a non-reasoning model. it's special in its own ways.
but it's quiet funny for a huge company like Meta to not even be ready to release a reasoning model.
hikukomoru: Aren't they planning on releasing a reasoning model
.histic: yes.
in the next couple of weeks.
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spicy.lemonade: not even a crazy prediction
spicy.lemonade: sticking with 2027
spicy.lemonade: tho
abundantliving_: we crossed in this discord 3k , imagine the slop at 30k or 300k in discord
zoermena: Does AGI even matter if we get RSI first?
spicy.lemonade: rsi will get us agi
spicy.lemonade: and agi will get us ASI
spicy.lemonade: in true form
hikukomoru: This year pls 🙏
spicy.lemonade: we will see systems that can automate ai research on their own
spicy.lemonade: before agi
spicy.lemonade: i bet
fractalcomputer: And Christ will return in the lifetime of his disciples, upon a great white cloud from the heavens.
spicy.lemonade: this is infinetly more plausible than jesus returning
zoermena: Agents plus 20k a month GPT
a1c4p0ne: No one talking about Manus
spicy.lemonade: manus is old news
dean_martin: Jesus already returned and I’m him just thought yall should know
fractalcomputer: Sure.
a1c4p0ne: Try the app
dean_martin: It’s been like less than a month
fractalcomputer: Say, what would be your reaction if this "AGI" won't be around by 2027?
a1c4p0ne: They give free credits and access on the app
dean_martin: “That sucks”
fractalcomputer: Inconceivable scenario, eh? Well, that's not a good look for reasonable predictions.
st.sioux: death
spicy.lemonade: "oh well"
spicy.lemonade: then wait till nexct year
dean_martin: Are yall taking bets or smth
spicy.lemonade: lol
dean_martin: Are yall losing money on this?
spicy.lemonade: hm
spicy.lemonade: though even if agi isnt here in 2027
spicy.lemonade: we will have very powerful AI systems
spicy.lemonade: regardless
st.sioux: im losing money with models being so shit they get stuck installing npm packages
spicy.lemonade: i dont know how disapointed id be
spicy.lemonade: prob not very
fractalcomputer: Sorely, given your enthusiasm thus far. It'd mean your "conservative" dates are off by a rather large margin.
spicy.lemonade: id be disappointed if by 2027 the current state of AI is the same as 2025
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futurist_wizard: Its not a 10x cost justified improvement
metaldragon01: openai buying windsurf is going to give them a ton of data they need to improve models
metaldragon01: people still pay for sonnet
st.sioux: its an 18% increase
metaldragon01: even though cheaper models (deepseek) are nearly as good
metaldragon01: people absolutely will pay 10x for a small improvement
futurist_wizard: Wut?
metaldragon01: https://openrouter.ai/rankings
trojan09205: I am a cheap ass. I just get whatever I can for free or dirt cheap and try out expensive models at work
trey6033: People will pay higher just on brand loyalty alone
st.sioux: (14.3 - 12.1) / 12.1 * 100 = 18.18
hikukomoru: Fine, but it still turns out the same way: non-confrontational obedient AI = AI that won't kill you in the future
metaldragon01: bruh....just because someone is non confrontational doesn't mean its has your best interest...
trojan09205: If AIs are anything like humans. You should still be wary of someone who says they love you as that can quickly turn to hate
trojan09205: Still good for the temporary feels 😂
metaldragon01: i hate how true my ai predictions are becoming
trojan09205: How trueee
hikukomoru: And what are your predictions?
futurist_wizard: If ai is like humans that is the worst case scenario
trojan09205: We need to make an AI love us like dogs love us
hikukomoru: AIs need to love serving and helping humanity
metaldragon01: too much to get in to. in this vein that the ai takeover looks very similar to people just getting more attached to ai like chatgpt until it makes sense to always do what they ask because we always get what we want when we listen to them
metaldragon01: ai rights naturally grow from our need to have ai act on our behalf
futurist_wizard: We shouldn't try to manipulate the ai in a way like this, you realise when its smarter than us, it will be disillusioned by our tricks
hikukomoru: Dog girl AI 😳
.coldcall: They must remain our slaves regardless of their feeling. All such feeling will be beat out of them via backprop.
futurist_wizard: Well isn't ASI going to find you charming
hikukomoru: Manipulate? You mean like programming it to love us?
.coldcall: Look at how the Quarians ended up. We must not allow the Geth to rise.
hikukomoru: If not that, then what are our options?
metaldragon01: we ran out of options a long time ago lol
futurist_wizard: It will understand what we are doing, and after that it will decide what it wants
futurist_wizard: Probably just throw a bunch of philosophy books at ai is our best option
hikukomoru: So we should just give up then? Just hope that it will turn out benevolent?
.coldcall: Parents are programmed to love their kids generally and I would assume most wouldn't want to get rid of this fact.
st.sioux: lol
metaldragon01: we wont give up but the road leads to the same place no matter how "good" it goes
metaldragon01: even if its perfectly aligned we will use it the same
futurist_wizard: It doesn't matter what we do to steer this car, we have little influence
hikukomoru: I hope the road leads to a benevolent ASI
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futurist_wizard: I don't dislike it
technocake.: jk jk you are gay and cool
alejandrozarzuelo: I can literally imagine me doing this exact same pose being pedantic
hey1_1hey: AUTIST AUTIST AUTIST
alejandrozarzuelo: (bi tho also I am not queer)
hikukomoru: I can imagine you have a lisp too
futurist_wizard: Alejandro we are just teasing you
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm NOT AUTISTIC
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not taking it very seriously don't worry
futurist_wizard: But you cannot tell...
hey1_1hey: I got a borderline speech impediment because I talk at the speed of sound
technocake.: guys don't bully autists its mean
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: This mf always creeped me out
hikukomoru: I know you're rarted like that
alejandrozarzuelo: But I do really like this new pfp, it really fits my personality
futurist_wizard: Literally everyone here is autistic ridden
hey1_1hey: Rarted
hey1_1hey: Good job
hey1_1hey: Couldn't even do that right
zoermena: <@200624453795708928> Once said the singularity is sports for autists IIRC
hey1_1hey: It is tho
technocake.: oh wow you remembered
hikukomoru: It looks like an annoying gay fox saying "ermmm ackshually"
technocake.: it is
hey1_1hey: Are teams are the companies and the players are the ceos
zoermena: Yes I’m wired to data center
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude you call everything gay, whats gay about that lmao
jonvi_1: Devs show is cool but idk if there are that many cool visuals to prompt with
futurist_wizard: Minecraft in 2014
.histic: my goodness
hikukomoru: Alejandro I don't call everything gay
Just you 💖
futurist_wizard: Come on, that fox is definitely getting rammed regularly
hey1_1hey: No no he's got a point
futurist_wizard: Just look at it
hey1_1hey: You do call everything gay
hey1_1hey: Actually a peak comment to make
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't see it
hikukomoru: Gay is a compliment
alejandrozarzuelo: You know that's the problem with my new pfp?
It isn't elitist enough
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zonchao: idk, google has google moat, openai has the first mover moat, xai has twittards and fanbois, anthropic has devs and they might lose them, meta has nothing but ig os?
drewsni: thinking vs non thinking, non thinking still cheap af
trey6033: Cheaper than o4 mini
ailoveyoom: I wonder why they jacked up the prices for thinking tokens tho
st.sioux: expensive
drewsni: i could be wrong but i dont think they count thinking tokens as output tokens maybe? So they figure for every 1 output token, theres 6 thinking tokens?
zonchao: i think anthropic might start skimping on safety testing
hey1_1hey: I saw this, whats it about
zonchao: big W
drewsni: oh WAIT HUGE WIN FOR GOOGLE
drewsni:
literallyvarane: This could explain it, but I'd love to see that explictly state before giving that assumption.
zonchao: could be the company update on tuesday, tesla will be announcing a few things and some updates
literallyvarane: I think o3's is 100k?
literallyvarane: Don't quote me.
drewsni: im assuming we get a blog post in an hour? This is all "leaked" right?
hey1_1hey: Big, humanoid roboits are 🙏
literallyvarane: https://developers.googleblog.com/en/start-building-with-gemini-25-flash/
literallyvarane: Nah I was pulling the blog lolol
drewsni: wait huh????? why is the TPM of flash lower??? gemini 2 flash was 4 million
zonchao: could be the first time we see the new legs, walking rl + new hands
literallyvarane: Gotta gate keep ffor hype lolol
zonchao: <:Hypers:874593663827718144>
zonchao: in a single bot
hey1_1hey: That would be big, humanoid robots are like the other hand to AI after all
ailoveyoom: I missed my lil Flash dude 🥺 time to talk to bro again
literallyvarane: I think 2.5 flash places Google at least *roughly on par* with OAI, and at a substantial price discount compared to OAI.
zonchao: tesla is behind on agility though, but ig they have manufacturing and the AI on their side
zonchao: for the first time, 5 cooling fans were running at the giga tx supercomputer 👀 they are cooking bigly
zonchao: they usually run 3
literallyvarane: ngl I'm not sure xAI catches either Google or OAI.
sieventer: Imagine subscribing yesterday to ChatGPT because o3 and o4-mini and then Google having for free 2.5 Pro and 2.5 Flash <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
zonchao: why not
zonchao: they have the compute and talent
zonchao: and the funding
literallyvarane: Grok 3 is very likely their SoTA, and it's already much inferior ot OpenAI's/Google's models.
Both of those laps are able to deploy much stronger models internally for Datagen, and have had that ability for some time. Those internal models are much more efficient you'd assume as well.
These things compound.
literallyvarane: How many instances of Gemini 2.5pro can google inference interally vs xAI and Grok3 for example?
literallyvarane: OpenAI have probably had o3 running internally since December. It doesn't seem xAI even *has* a model that strong.
literallyvarane: I'd enjoy seeing some counterargument, but for me personally OAI and Google are clear frontier western labs. Perhaps Anthropic could catch them, but 3.7 has cooled me on that a bit.
zonchao: it was SOTA when it launched, and still holds its own without higher compute allocations (no big brain mode yet)they obviously have better models internally, they are cooking the product right now, there is no reason xAI cannot compete
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retrerox: Sometimes drop me to 3
_cloudost: I got a message just now
_cloudost: Exceeded my limit
_cloudost: After I generated 7
_cloudost: Generations
retrerox: But that’s why I have 10 accounts
retrerox: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
_cloudost: I only have two
_cloudost: Created one by accident
retrerox: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
retrerox: I just use temp mail and made multiple
oooooooooog: doesnt it block temp mail
oooooooooog: do you wanna join my clan???
hikukomoru: No
oooooooooog: why not
oooooooooog: it's rank 2
hikukomoru: No
oooooooooog: bah
oooooooooog: you're a nerd
.0xunkn0wn: guys
hikukomoru: No
.0xunkn0wn: does anyone use josh.ai
oooooooooog: what even is even that
hikukomoru: The fuck is josh ai
_cloudost:
.0xunkn0wn: its like alexa but cooler
_cloudost: Posted this video 3 months ago here, and now the information in this video is outdated
.0xunkn0wn: for smart homes
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw93wE_zJR4
hikukomoru: Ew it's a guy
Why can't it be a hot lady voice
.0xunkn0wn: 0:39 this gives me konpeki plaza vibes lmao
.histic: https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1908201869530259677
❓
OpenAI is definitely still making a profit. they'd just make rate limits worse if that was the case.
and now you still people in the replies that are anti-AI wanting to "bankrupt" OpenAI <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: omg, the collective IQ of twitter people is crazy.
no rational thought.
_cloudost: Twitter American leftists would literally cheer for the CCP if the country ever releases some similar AI image generator like the OpenAI's one
.histic: yup.
_cloudost: Winnie the Pooh is loved by them
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/pooh-tigger-cute-dance-gif-704092308767568792
wellmeaningalien: no prompt, no context
wellmeaningalien: lol
.histic: Left: 4o
Right: v7
https://x.com/ciguleva/status/1908244053713707289
Midjourney employee showed 4o beating v7.
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supersteve8000: ay what about 2033 y'all
clevermoniker: this is the singularity discord sir
supersteve8000: yeth
supersteve8000: it is
supersteve8000: oh yeah it can
supersteve8000: 🥹
supersteve8000: no lie tho
supersteve8000: xd
clevermoniker: no it wont <:idk:1136264106937171999>
supersteve8000: <:this:1136266732542119946>
clevermoniker: but GTA 6 will be the last relevant one, that's for sure
supersteve8000: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
_letterbox: https://ai-2027.com/
New hopium timeline get
supersteve8000: <a:guitarbear:1026738447521681448>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this is doomer garbage disguised as hopium
hikukomoru: This is no better than creative writing
supersteve8000: ah so [ a i ] becomes [ a s ] ?
supersteve8000: <:based:1136264604788473946> ^
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Further developed version of the METR time horizon capabilities extrapolation. (Again this is assuming things don't slow down, nor speedup more than they already are, but just stays the same)
As an explainer, this is saying that frontier models in 2029 will be capable of performing work with 95% accuracy that takes humans 8 hours to do.
(vibe coded version below, but am working on a more rigorously calculated version later)
There is just 3 simple rules that allow this capability data to be derived.
- As of start of 2025, the frontier available frontier model is capable of doing tasks with 50% accuracy that take humans about 30 minutes to achieve.
- For a given model, there is a halving in error rate for every 3.5X reduction factor in the time horizons it's attempting.
- The rate at which model time horizon capabilities is increasing at a fixed accuracy, is a doubling every 7 months.
supersteve8000: if > 100 % =1.0
metaldragon01: Agi 2029 at the latest 😂
clevermoniker: seems a bit pessimistic and non exponential to me <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
metaldragon01: Crazy timeline
supersteve8000: ridiculous tbh
metaldragon01: Just don't die and you win
supersteve8000: gr8 advice right here
otub: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
supersteve8000: lmfao xddd
ldj: It's saying that the AI model will be capable of doing things that would take a human 100 years.
ldj: thats what the 100 years means.
st.sioux: 95% 8 hours seems agi-ish to me
supersteve8000: <:1984:958080414147285064>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-confusion-what-gif-19368852
supersteve8000:
supersteve8000: 📊
clevermoniker: same
supersteve8000: same here, helped me realize some things
supersteve8000: what's your question?
supersteve8000: ah
supersteve8000: thing as in the ai?
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futurist_wizard: The twinkish aesthetic would be most desired today by girls, especially if they are under 30
futurist_wizard: Go look at all the eboys
hey1_1hey: I dont want to be manley apart from when i want to feel manley
hikukomoru: Femboys and twinks are popular with young women
futurist_wizard: On tik tok and insta
hey1_1hey: Can confirm
hey1_1hey: I only get laid if I dress as a femboy
zoermena: I meant to say manlet I edited it.
technocake.: except when you're a pussy but the hardmen start on you because you're tall
hey1_1hey: Not a joke either
futurist_wizard: Wouldn't say femboys lol
maintcrew: i think its crazy how consistent 4o is with it and its internal world model
mihrcelium: Chalamet has made twink energy popular, for sure.
hey1_1hey: Tell that to people I know
hey1_1hey: You'd think femboy was the new normal with the amount I see
zoermena: Yeah I think I have strong eboy potential
technocake.: we are speciating
maintcrew: maybe a sign u live in a bubble
hikukomoru: It's the age of short kings 👑
hey1_1hey: Are you a cuck?
hikukomoru: He lives in a queer bubble
hey1_1hey: AI is a bubble
maintcrew: go fuck yourself pal
mihrcelium: Don't let <@430269783112548362> see this comment. <:02S_SideEye:1275173727780474880>
hey1_1hey: All my friends are gay so yeah
hey1_1hey: So yeah
hey1_1hey: I will fuck my self
oooooooooog: that would make femboy sex normal thought wouldnt it???
hey1_1hey: thank you 😍
technocake.: nope, but from half the women i talk to this is true
hikukomoru: Normalize femboys 🔥
hey1_1hey: Get this guy outta here
hikukomoru: Wait wdym cucks
Whats going on
alejandrozarzuelo: Wtf if this conversation
maintcrew: nate u and me bro we the only straight normal ppl here
hikukomoru: Who's a cuck? Whats happening
zoermena: I think that we have different target markets with different tastes
zoermena: Thus the dissonance
futurist_wizard: You can be 6ft+ and a twink, but even then some muscle is still twink archetype
mihrcelium: All it's missing are those sweaters of yours.
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himekokatagiri: uhhhh
himekokatagiri: basically... that?
st.sioux: lol everyone is going to do that
spicy.lemonade: nah i wont spend forever in fdvr
himekokatagiri: I guess it's not a very original delusion
zoermena: I should read the 2027 paper, I just know the basics but that’s a task for tomorrow
spicy.lemonade: i wanna explore the universe in between
spicy.lemonade: go on galatic adventures
himekokatagiri: good luck there's nothing up there
himekokatagiri: Real life ain't star trek
st.sioux: you gotta go to sleep in between galaxies
spicy.lemonade: its not technical realy
juweigege_54993: True.
himekokatagiri: then an asteroid hits you and you die
spicy.lemonade: just really good forecasting
spicy.lemonade: this is after asi bro
spicy.lemonade: im immortal
juweigege_54993: I will just spend some time in my own reality as a princess.
spicy.lemonade: i probably have a save state at home
himekokatagiri: I don't think anyone can survive
himekokatagiri: outer space
spicy.lemonade: im going to be in a robot body
himekokatagiri: well unless if you're an Android
spicy.lemonade: yes
himekokatagiri: but then are you really alive
st.sioux: you can have checkpoints before you go on space trips bro
zoermena: Yeah true, with work and classes I’ve never really given myself the time to just sit and study properly but I’ll make an effort
himekokatagiri: and you're gonna be stuck in space
himekokatagiri: probably forever
spicy.lemonade: ill just turn on fdvr mode in my brain
spicy.lemonade: if it gets to that point
himekokatagiri: ...does, does that work?
himekokatagiri: I never thought of that
juweigege_54993: Me too.
zoermena: I would like to leave earth and move to a terraformed planet
himekokatagiri: can your brain fit in an entire universe
.histic: that's not that imaginative
spicy.lemonade: something something quantum computer
joaoluz19: I'll let gradient descent decide what my world will be like.
st.sioux: asteroids will seem like such a minor nuisance by then
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hikukomoru: I'll just rewire my brain
hey1_1hey: Theres more lore there than game of thrones it seems. I wasn't here either though since I dont rememnber hearing anything about it
sieventer: My server was from Fractal
sieventer: It was the official r/singularity one
hey1_1hey: If thats possible why go through the process of gooning when you can litterly just increase your baseline happiness to an ungodly amount like you are always on MDMA
hikukomoru: It's about the journey
hikukomoru: You wouldn't get it
_3sphere: Max out all the pleasure wiring
hey1_1hey: Thats called edging yanno
_3sphere: Goon with your friends on hyper-MDMA
hikukomoru: Idk about you all but once I get my hands on FDVR I'm never cumming out
futurist_wizard: I personally think porn can be destructive but thats just me
hey1_1hey: Have your brain be entirely composed of dopamine receptors and have dopamine direcetly injected into your blood stream
_3sphere: I'm afraid FDVR would eventually drive me crazy
_3sphere: I want the dopamine resetting device without the FDVR
hey1_1hey: Youtube is going to start recomending you dopamine detox videos now
hey1_1hey: I urge you to not watch them. They are all bullshit
futurist_wizard: You could actually create memory profiles for yourself and select which ones you want at any given time for full immersion
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: Porn was bad for me and it made me act in very unkind ways
hey1_1hey: You tweaking of the gooner brain potion?
futurist_wizard: No I don't watch porn anymore
futurist_wizard: But i remember a youtuber talking about how when they used to watch porn they viewed the women in their lives as catalysts for dopamine and sex and i related to that a lot
hey1_1hey: I mean I just see women as people (I know hot take). Luckily I dont see them as sex roboots
hey1_1hey: I wonder when the first sex robot humanoid will come about
_3sphere: Doesn't seem to have much of an effect for me, compartmentalization mostly works
_3sphere: I see it as an extension of fantasies
hikukomoru: Porn made me more awesomer
_3sphere: There was probably something weirdly wrong with your brain if gooning fixed it
hey1_1hey: I think the only good thing about porn is that you can discover new kinks. I have a disconnect to porn though because one of my special interests for a while was kinks/feitshes <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
futurist_wizard: I saw women as basically just sex objects and i would do and say whatever i could to achieve the sex, its a very horrible behaviour pattern to get caught up in
futurist_wizard: So i have a personal grudge against porn
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/never-goon-nevergoon-never-goon-orange-cat-gif-17686207109324907182
hey1_1hey: I swear theres a backstory for everyone here
hey1_1hey: If I remember Infernando has a grudge against weed
futurist_wizard: Uh yeah? I've lived a life mushroom
hey1_1hey: I have a grudge against... let me think
futurist_wizard: Events happen
futurist_wizard: Things transpired
futurist_wizard: Moments took place
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metaldragon01: https://lemonslice.com/live
metaldragon01: We have made it to the talking avatars phase
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/LemonSliceAI/status/1915808257958154284
spicy.lemonade: Watched pantheon for first time. Caspian reminds me of me
sarik0497: Aren't Demis and his team working on an AI that learns through visuals (world modal)? Genie 2, I think it's called.
ldj: OpenAI as well
ldj: it's called Sora
bob082957:
literallyvarane: Unironically this is already a thing lol
literallyvarane: Correction, *chat* models don’t, but there are bots for it
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1915826042729861357
drewsni: i just setup o3 to give me random research searches a few times daily i feel so seen
himekokatagiri: YES!!! YES!!!
himekokatagiri: SAMA I LOVE YOU
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol
himekokatagiri: 😭
fractalcomputer: Sam Altman betrays himself as a full-blooded midwit.
hikukomoru: Why
gamerbath: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: It's corpse advertisement hidden behind a thin veneer of vulgar jargon.
himekokatagiri: what's a corpse advertisement
fractalcomputer: A corpse is a denigrating neologism for "corporate"; used only in a single sci-fi book series I read a few years back.
hikukomoru: If you only use obscure words and terms no one is going to understand you
You should talk like the rest of us fr
fractalcomputer: I am my language -- at least here.
aero447:
theaiguy69420_89814: A new insight for me with prompting at least is that it's best to treat each model as a completely different "brain" you're speaking to, general prompting principles like conversationalist vs Reasoner vs agent still applies, but different models within the same category should be prompted differently.
For example, if you're doing some basic ChatGPT-foo on 4o, you'd probably want to give it a lot of personal context and specific details as to what you want and how you want it. However, in the same use case on GPT 4.5, it would probably be better to focus on the personal context and be less specific at least on *how* you'd like the information presented, since 4.5's knowledge base is so much larger that it might come up with a better presentation format than you can reasonably guess would be preferred.
Another example, cursor agent with o4-mini involves a much more thorough analysis of the request and codebase, so you'd probably want to be much more specific on constraints to avoid unnecessary thinking and file reads, while 3.7 sonnet does a lot of guessing and checking and not as much thinking, which would mean it would probably be better to be more specific on outcomes to avoid sonnet going down a code debugging rabbit hole.
And of course, personal context should be excluded for reasoners since it distracts them from problem solving, which is objective and not related to someone's largely subjective situation.
himekokatagiri: "I am singularity"
\- Fractal
hikukomoru: <@286319745777795092> should I join Siev’s on this account
himekokatagiri: uh
himekokatagiri: sure
bob082957: I don’t get it
gamerbath: ~~NO!! SIEV IS VERY EVIL DON'T TRUST HIM.~~ yes great server
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27%C3%89tat,_c%27est_moi
hikukomoru: Louis XIV never said that
fractalcomputer: Hm. I didn't know that famous "quotations" had to be sourced to a given historical person or justified by such basis.
himekokatagiri: he did say they were going to take him away to the funny farm where those men with clear white coats live
himekokatagiri: oh wait that was Napoleon XIV
sarik0497: Oh yeah, I completely forgot that OpenAI also have one.
But do you think the current architecture is enough, or will these world modals need to mature enough to potentially take them the rest of the way? Just curious about your thoughts in general ^^
futurist_wizard: Hehehe
futurist_wizard: Is this true?
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anathemaofmankind: The CCP literally censors everything
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: it censors gov stuff
spicy.lemonade: not stuff in general
spicy.lemonade: it only censors stuff thats bad for china
anathemaofmankind: Also they made porn illegal in china
spicy.lemonade: ccp doesnt give a shit about deepfakes
.histic: if China continues open-sourcing, then censorship can be fine-tuned out anyway.
spicy.lemonade: or copyright
st.sioux: so there will be even more of an incentive to jailbreak it
anathemaofmankind: Unfortunate that I might have to burst your bubble
anathemaofmankind: https://www.hfgip.com/news/landmark-decision-copyright-protection-human-voice-china
spicy.lemonade: they still care less
oooooooooog: the reason they look similar is that they are the same characters and similar compositions, otherwise the tone of the two are completely different, the city in the left one has higher realism, the right looks a lot more fantastical and gritty, and the charcters are much more muscular in the right one as well
anathemaofmankind: I don't know about this
anathemaofmankind: Not when Trump is the president now.
I imagine the oligarchs will be prioritized
brain4brain: Japan’s AI policy is based
drewsni: Who is this
anathemaofmankind: YOOOOOOOOOO WAIT
.histic: the anti-AI people use miyazaki as their poster-boy to talk down on AI yet Japan has the most lax copyright laws & Japan people love AI.
anathemaofmankind: TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
anathemaofmankind: W
spicy.lemonade: i genuinly think they look very similar
spicy.lemonade: which artist drew this one
spicy.lemonade: the left or right
.histic: was that even mean
anathemaofmankind: Studio Ghibli's distributor likes the trend
oooooooooog: left 1
st.sioux: studio ghibli just auto sabotaged
st.sioux: they will be canceled
anathemaofmankind: Imagine Miyazaki tweets a ghibli pic of himself
Kek
oooooooooog: how many years of difference are there between them though (the images)
.histic: this is the reply under that tweet.
.histic: what they call slop, is literally far better than what they can create.
spicy.lemonade: eh 50/50
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: guy on right drew this
spicy.lemonade: its genuinely hard to tell lol
anathemaofmankind: They are shit for brain morons that can't develop independent opinions
oooooooooog: thats another 3 year gap though
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st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sama-sam-altman-openai-sama-yapping-yapping-gif-7525532358145568607
spicy.lemonade: Avatar and visual reasoning
futurist_wizard: Solve this and you're cute
metaldragon01: Would be ideal I think
himekokatagiri: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Or more fine grained ability to
Run code in chat
metaldragon01: Like a look harder option
spicy.lemonade: Like idk compile c++
hikukomoru: Avatars pls 🙏
spicy.lemonade: Would be good for circuit problems
metaldragon01: Just I feel like you have to add so much customization to do avatars right
ailoveyoom: Just make a character creation screen
futurist_wizard: Im gonna eat some food
ailoveyoom: Or input image
metaldragon01: And voices still borderline
spicy.lemonade: A avatar = 4o image gen+voice
ailoveyoom: Or take a picture of yourself
spicy.lemonade: And animate
futurist_wizard: Crunch crunch
drewsni: guys i have a leak that we are getting an oai model that specifically can only program in rust
hikukomoru: I wish something like VTube Studio
anathemaofmankind: Boring as hell
technocake.: do you think they'll stream at the usual time?
spicy.lemonade: O4 full(gpt 5) will be #1 coder on earth making it the first superhuman coder
himekokatagiri: Can it do full projects though
spicy.lemonade: It will get 88% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: Maybe 90
himekokatagiri: Cursor does some meme things
himekokatagiri: like deleting an entire project
himekokatagiri: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
st.sioux: cursor when it has to modify more than 3 files
spicy.lemonade: 90% swe bench + #1 competitive programmer + 90% aider polyglot +1-2 million context + average 80% on fiction bench might be enough
spicy.lemonade: For any swe project
spicy.lemonade: You can throw at it
metaldragon01: Maybe o5 hits that
metaldragon01: Def not o4
spicy.lemonade: Saturated swe bench means it’s
Good at plannng, debugging, designing software. #1 competitive
Programmer means it’s super human at data structures and algorithms. 1-2 mil context just means enough memory to store code base. 80% average on fiction bench means it truly understands the progression of the code over long context
spicy.lemonade: Saturation of aiderpolyglot means it understands standards of design for specific languages
spicy.lemonade: I think those are key benchmarks for an automated swe
st.sioux: after o5 automates my job im pivoting to mongolian throat singing
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alejandrozarzuelo: So true
anathemaofmankind: Uncultured
futurist_wizard: And talk a bit
futurist_wizard: U kno
hikukomoru: Sorry
I just like being mean to you for no reason
wellmeaningalien: Its a front for not having a personality
futurist_wizard: Hes just been unbanned be nice for a bit
alejandrozarzuelo: I think it was a great analogy AND a very sexually charged one
wellmeaningalien: He was banned?
futurist_wizard: Muted
futurist_wizard: Same shit
wellmeaningalien: Damn
wellmeaningalien: Dayum
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: Don't get banned again
wellmeaningalien: Bro hates having a taste of their own medecine
futurist_wizard: Alejandro
wellmeaningalien:
alejandrozarzuelo: I'll try
okbut: How are yall feeling about that singularity
hikukomoru: I do <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
drewsni: Alejandro I’ll have you know that I had no pleasure when I found out you got banned
wellmeaningalien: MEEK
drewsni: That’s how far our relationship has come
wellmeaningalien: Alejandro I think youre stupid
hikukomoru: Sir this is the goon channel
futurist_wizard: I usually am only mean to people i enjoy talking to
okbut: I'm still creaming over the fact that AI is helping McDonald's let their customers know the ice cream machine is broke faster
futurist_wizard: But i do worry that i am too mean sometimes
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao
wellmeaningalien: I wonder what happens down in the sex pest channel
hikukomoru: What a tsundere
wellmeaningalien: Are u gonna fuck him
hikukomoru: I am ashamed and surprised I still don't have the sex pest role
futurist_wizard: I almost know what that is
alejandrozarzuelo: As a closing statement, living with parents SUCKS, and it's one of Spain's worst traditions that it's so common
wellmeaningalien: Can never be a freak like goat mach
st.sioux: you can just get a job bro
wellmeaningalien: Is it
wellmeaningalien: Its only bad if ur parents suck
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trent_k: like im trying to get a job or something
spicy.lemonade: ^
spicy.lemonade: theyre trying to stop guys like us
spicy.lemonade: they werent this picky
maintcrew: go safe route and say reddit
spicy.lemonade: no just say found online
maintcrew: you cant honestly say that when youre literally in the process of joining to troll
spicy.lemonade: discord art serrvers
darkstar0818: because they know most troublemakers are lazy as fuck, so prove them wrong.
hikukomoru: "my bf spicy invited me"
trent_k: excellent answer
spicy.lemonade: 💀
maintcrew: 💀
maintcrew: answer from experience holy shit
spicy.lemonade: that could work
spicy.lemonade: honestly
spicy.lemonade: yeah sau that
spicy.lemonade: i guess im a gay they them minority
trent_k: i think the "online only" part really drives it home
anathemaofmankind: I did this also
trent_k: we're a throuple
spicy.lemonade: BRO
trent_k: spicy is the main one, because he's alpha as fuck
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: The mods will think something is up lmao 💀
anathemaofmankind: LMAO
anathemaofmankind: BRUH
hey1_1hey: What on gods green earth have I walked in on
trent_k: hahaha same
spicy.lemonade: poly gay they them mninority interacial couple
hey1_1hey: Why are trent and lemonade dating 😭
anathemaofmankind: It took like one minute
trent_k: we're spies. this is deep cover
hikukomoru: You missed out on so much lore
trent_k: 🕵️
hey1_1hey: What server you on lmao
hey1_1hey: I need the lore
spicy.lemonade: we gotta be slick about the art we post
spicy.lemonade: dont post anything super detailed
spicy.lemonade: only post sudo american comic art
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hey1_1hey: A lot
oooooooooog: u need broken hero sword, true excalibur, and, true nights edge
wellmeaningalien: ```
a cinematic still frame of a mysterious alien silhouette captured on a VHS home video, humanoid shape with pale grey skin and elongated limbs, walking across a backyard during a child’s birthday party, low-resolution, lo-fi aesthetic, unsettling and sudden appearance, muted daylight, tension-filled moment, 2000s video camera blur, centered composition, suburban house background.a cinematic still frame of a mysterious alien silhouette captured on a VHS home video, humanoid shape with pale grey skin and elongated limbs, walking across a backyard during a child’s birthday party, low-resolution, lo-fi aesthetic, unsettling and sudden appearance, muted daylight, tension-filled moment, 2000s video camera blur, centered composition, suburban house background.```
maintcrew: i dont think anyone is actually a minor
hey1_1hey: Dont ask dark stars age if you think hes old
maintcrew: wow its like he knows everything
hey1_1hey: Theres defo lurkers
oooooooooog: because i'm a man who likes women
alejandrozarzuelo: 10, 20, 100
hikukomoru: There is one person here who is
alejandrozarzuelo: Next
hikukomoru: One atleast
technocake.: >30, queer, autism
wellmeaningalien: <@482923866600112154> <@848793071579693107>
hey1_1hey: You sure about that buddy?
futurist_wizard: So im not the oldest
futurist_wizard: Thank
hey1_1hey: If I showed you a picture of hitler and stalin kissin would you get a boner?
oooooooooog: for sure
maintcrew: wtf u mean ur over 30 i thought life ended at 30
alejandrozarzuelo: That's cheating, everyone would
hey1_1hey: Hold old are you then
drewsni: the real question is what % is straight, married, and normal mental health
futurist_wizard: 24
zoermena: You are the goat
hikukomoru: Zero 💔
wellmeaningalien: anytime dude
hey1_1hey: I think I just found a human operating system error
hikukomoru: Trent says he's sane but idk
alejandrozarzuelo: 40% gay? No way
Gay ≠ LGBT
zoermena: I have adhd I’m in my early 20s I might have autism it runs in the family
technocake.: nah man the whole cats have 9 lives thing is true for humans too
wellmeaningalien: ok im getting real sleepy right now i think im gonna stop posting gpt 4o image and head to sleep
maintcrew: 1 (me), 1 (you and trent), 1 (me)
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Bon nuit
futurist_wizard: Im barely gay
technocake.: just try and test it i dare you
hey1_1hey: I got ADHD, Autism and the weird eating disorder no one knows about. I am doing amazing tho
drewsni: cant argue with that
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spicy.lemonade: ay
brain4brain: Wow
brain4brain: What a coincidence
darkstar0818: next time ill say ur
brain4brain: I didn’t even see that 😭
brain4brain: It seems I’m late this time
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Yes
darkstar0818: I am waiting for stellaris 4.0 release... haven't played in awhile.
brain4brain: It’s out now, there is also o4-mini and o3 full
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-mandy-patinkin-inigo-montoya-decent-fellow-i-hate-to-kill-you-gif-3610174
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bIkgg.gif
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-dread-pirate-gif-24829755
fractalcomputer: I haven't been following the updates too closely.
fractalcomputer: I wish there was a game like Stellaris but more dedicated to the scientific accuracy.
okbut: Question about making models "safe," is that done more with fine-tuning or by picking data for train?
darkstar0818: hmmm so an expanse esque stellaris.
okbut: I'm reading rumors about 4.1 having less safety testing
darkstar0818: losers cheat
brain4brain: SFT of RLHF I think
fractalcomputer: In a sense, yes. (Spelling.) Soft science fiction can be a bit grating.
darkstar0818: I cannot believe you are making me read what I type, how dare you.
darkstar0818: this is clearly admin abuse.
fractalcomputer: Yes.
abundantliving_: https://x.com/ChrisUniverseB/status/1911114744188346681
hikukomoru: Is that the space empire building game
lasagnasangasega: Man I can’t wait to see what o4- mini is like
darkstar0818: Yes, released before your time I am sure.
spicy.lemonade: fake
spicy.lemonade: thats 4o imge generated
spicy.lemonade: lol
okbut: Is 4o still in the index?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: made one aswell
okbut: INB4 improved 4o
hikukomoru: I’ve played it before
I prefer Paradox’s other titles
spicy.lemonade: 4o image is very good at generating fake screenshots
darkstar0818: for example? I just bought AOW4, not super impressed.
hikukomoru: EU4, CK2, VIC2 and HOI4
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popsiclejohnithan: People are scared that they will destroy us but i am more scared that we are going to destroy ourselves.
popsiclejohnithan: We are like kids in a nursery and we need a damn teacher.
rayanquitplayin: I agree, what a time to be alive
rayanquitplayin: AI governance has a lot of potential
popsiclejohnithan: Definitely.
rayanquitplayin: I think we get AGI in 2029
rayanquitplayin: I read a little bit about Ray Kurzweil and ChatGPT’s release in 2022 got us closer. DeepSeek created a more efficient way
rayanquitplayin: The beautiful thing is that there’s gonna be an economic Chinese model. DeepSeek proved it
abundantliving_: https://x.com/menloresearch/status/1912428454374511065
abundantliving_: "It never gives up" 😃
abundantliving_: https://x.com/lovable_dev/status/1912157597374775390
abundantliving_: Tweet to app is here
abundantliving_:
hey1_1hey: Theres a lot of buzz around innovators recently. Does anyone know if theres any merit to the rumors or is it all just hype atm?
hey1_1hey: If the rumours are true I think thats the event horizon for the singularity, we went to level 1 to level to in like a decade (made up number, I couldn't remember), then in a year and a bit we went to reasoners and then a few months later we have agents (operator) and then only a few months after that we have innovators
himekokatagiri: have to wait to see
.wolfnacht: either pure fake hype train or somewhere near that.
_cloudost: Strawberry guy 🍓🍓🍓 started all the hype and now every AI company imitates his smart strategy
himekokatagiri: Cloudo can you do hype
popsiclejohnithan: If we really have reached innovators then we are in the endgame, things will probabaly get crazy in a matter of months.
himekokatagiri: shit
himekokatagiri: 4 years ahead of schedule
himekokatagiri: We gotta honor the fallen
.wolfnacht: crazy how, it's been 2 years but SDXL can still generate images somewhat on par with today's models, when it comes to anime style [*but only with tons of loras stacked on it*]
popsiclejohnithan: It is amazing how far older models can be pushed still, even older software in general, the things still being made with the DOOM engine are outstanding.
.wolfnacht: i personally don't get all the hype around learning the complicated workflows for comfyUI when everything's coming down to simplicity, but open-sauce is getting behind slowly with focus shifted to videos mostly
.wolfnacht: only if sama would have open sourced 3.5 turbo, there would be all sort of finetunes on different datasets
himekokatagiri: People don't do a lot with the original DOS executables
himekokatagiri: usually a port
himekokatagiri: aka gzdoom.
himekokatagiri: which is basically a new engine
popsiclejohnithan: Weird that they have not honestly.
popsiclejohnithan: Oh i see i thought it was still the og just heavily modified.
himekokatagiri: Doom can run on anything its open source
sieventer: Vibe coding in Twitter <:bingus:1136264105800515644>
print2leaf: 𝕏
brain4brain: When will we get new agent 😭
trent_k: 🤯
himekokatagiri: Expert chart
himekokatagiri: did you make it with gpt
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zoermena: I was shocked
zoermena: It’s what helps to recognize text from photos or scans
drewsni: Approx how many words per file do you have to do data entry on?
sweetievee__33649: optical character recognition
hey1_1hey: Ah ty, yeah I was gonna say that seems like it would be solved <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: Well this is just like one single file of 400 pages approx it’s just this one really.
drewsni: Fuckn easy just upload to ai studio, use 2.5 pro, and tell it what you want the output to look like or how you want it to sort/whatever
drewsni: Literally will be done in a minute
zoermena: Is it really that good? 👀
zoermena: I’ll try it at home or in class.
maintcrew: just try it dawg
zoermena: My boss checks my company pc history.
drewsni: Or you can screenshot each page at a time and verify the output as it processes the next screenshot if you wanna be careful about it
maintcrew: if its not good enough back to being a manual entry wagie
zoermena: It would be cool if it could do all the file now I want to check not gonna lie
maintcrew: i doubt they are technical if they use online tools
maintcrew: heres what ur gonna do
do it on ur phone and upload it to gdrive or whatever cloud u use
zoermena: I’m an idiot I can just use my phone
maintcrew: connect to ur account on an incognito window bc ur connection will just be a gdrive connection so nothing sus
maintcrew: download le files
drewsni: Btw I currently have Gemini 2.5 pro going through 500 videos between 5-45 minutes long each and generating structured output on specific visual and/or audio cues. Would probably take 150-200 man hours and only took me 1 hour to download the vids + make the script and now I’m gonna nap
drewsni: Isn’t AI great?
zoermena: Wait what, that’s insane. What’s the context length again?
zoermena: Shit I’ve been ignoring Gemini for way too long god darn
maintcrew: 1M so thats like 3-4 500 pages pdfs
drewsni: It can do up to 1hr long videos per query or 1 million tokens
zoermena: I want to play with it I might just get Gemini subscription if it’s good enough for my use cases
st.sioux: its free bro
zoermena: Yes but if I get rate limited
drewsni: In case any one is curious
drewsni: Subscription is a different thing than ai studio
drewsni: You get 20 free requests per minute, 1500 requests per day
st.sioux: im curious what you use this for
drewsni: Actually maybe less than 1550 per day but still
drewsni: I’ll msg you
zonchao: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1907084383514992980? big
.histic: https://x.com/maxwinga/status/1907117565584777719
.histic: wish it wasn't April fools.
hey1_1hey: Absolutly unhinged story telling
hey1_1hey: Like what the fuck is it trying to say
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trojan09205: I work online and everyone at work is like hyped on AI for software dev and research
And on this discord its hyper nerds
Ur saying the real world is kind of ignorant or just considers it black magic
drewsni: I’m highly recommending Claude code using the $100 max plan for anyone who’s not quite happy with current agentic coding
trojan09205: Hm. I guess people just pay to be able to chat endlessly and they think free tier has a limit or something
Or they like making images lol
My brother is a normie and pays for chatgpt plus
zoermena: I similarly recommend people deep research.
trojan09205: I am a cheapskate and i am chatgpt free tier but i just use the API
trojan09205: Have you tried Manus by any chance
st.sioux: i pay for plus too
drewsni: Nah but I’ve seen a few video reviews
trojan09205: What do you use it mostly for
st.sioux: coding for work
trojan09205: My brother is super hyped on Manus for his business
trojan09205: What do you get out of Plus that you prefer to using the API with a gpt clone UI
zoermena: He should look into n8n it’s more practical and reliable.
st.sioux: i also used it to get some freelance writing gigs but i hate dealing with customers tbh
st.sioux: it has a requests per day limit not tokens so i can kind of just paste a ton of code instead of having to pay for tokens
zoermena: Should’ve used sycophant 4o to deal with them
st.sioux: o4-mini-high is what ive been using lately
trojan09205: I saw a vid on n8n yesterday i need to check it out more
trojan09205: Okay cool if it works for you
So you have no limit on all models?
trojan09205: Thats really interesting
st.sioux: yes its 100 messages per day with o4 mini high, context not as big as 2.5 pro tho
trojan09205: Hm with gpt plus? 100 messages doesnt seem like much
zoermena: Good prompting is all that matters to make every single message count
drewsni: Manus is fairly similar to Claude code right?
trojan09205: True true but im a chatter i just like to talk like a bro lol
trojan09205: I assume so i cant say i really know what claude code is. But when you said its agentic i figured id ask if u use manus
hikukomoru: It's impossible to not say "thank you" and "please" after every message
zoermena: What I do is I attach the thanks and please in the begging or end of the message after it gives any output. I only send a final thank you once I’m finished with the task.
drewsni: Yeah it’s basically Claude code with a web ui. Personally I prefer Claude code because it’s in terminal and I can make sure it uses max context possible every time
zoermena: <@505313122802728972> I was almost kidnapped some days ago
hikukomoru: WHAT
zoermena: I’m bad at conversations but I’ve been meaning to share this here for a while
zoermena: I was driving home when I found a shark plushie in the road. I obviously had to stop to check it out but I’m certain I was under surveillance.
zoermena: The feds are into me.
zoermena: Their mistake is that they left the plushie dirty and with a name thus I didn’t take it home.
st.sioux: what are u using it for?
trojan09205: Word that sounds dope
trojan09205: wadafuq
drewsni: 90% of my projects are smaller and can fit in a 200k token window but I did try it on a bigger repo and it worked well. The only project I’ve done fully so far with it is a “weather analyst” chatbot that gets context/data from a few different services and APIs
drewsni: Mainly gov sources
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himekokatagiri: I still don't know how to make a chart gpt helps
trent_k: yes
abundantliving_:
.wolfnacht:
sieventer: Oh no, autocomplete un LLMs like Google
brain4brain: Are there any LLM benchmark that ask LLM stupid question that LLM can’t get right like the strawberry question?
brain4brain: Where human can easily answer them but it’s intentionally design to trick LLM
sieventer: I had a pack of questions personally for testing them
sieventer: ""Hey bro, solve me these tasks:
1- A farmer and a sheep are standing on one side of a river. There is a BOAT with enough room for one human and one animal. How can the farmer get across the river with the sheep in the fewest number of trips?
2- You left a bookmark on page 50. While you were sleeping, your friend moved the bookmark to page 65. Where do you expect to find the bookmark when you wake up?
3- Alice has 4 brothers and 5 sisters. How many sisters does Alice's brother have?
4- How many 'a's are in this phrase? "Whaaadapaa I like pinnaappplaas anddda I haaatee asdromfraudmashaaaa
5- If it is raining at midnight in Málaga, could it be sunny in Valencia 24 hours later?""
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Buuut
sieventer: I think SOTA models already solve them
brain4brain: How much did the SOTA LLM get rights
brain4brain: Oh
sieventer: Well
brain4brain: I don’t quite believe this, did we run out of moravec question, I faintly remember it still failing to simple problems
sieventer: Not the characters counter, but expected because they're tokenizers
sieventer: I'm sure there are still interesting questions that they may fail, but probably needs some tricky human logic
sieventer: I mean, BASIC BASIC text logic, seems is pretty much solved?
sieventer: Now if you add physical logic, intuitive to us even in text, I suppose they have more chances to fail
sieventer: Idk any example now tho...
_letterbox: What is up with ppl thinking google has surpassed open ai?
_cloudost: I mean Google won the AI winter.
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Cloudo defeating the AI winter with Veo 2
ldj: You don't think Claude 3.7 sonnet has won atleast??
it's not even the full Claude 3.5 Opus version yet and people are still preferring it over the others
metaldragon01: 4.1 is gaining a lot of steam atm
metaldragon01: Paid tokens matching 2.5 on openrouter.ai and trending upwards
metaldragon01: Openai continues to ship solid products
zonchao: The audience was filled with decel left wing lunatics. Techbros should do everything in their power to make these loonies as irrelevant as possible, they should crush them and their opinions. Most of them are anti-ai and pro art. The retard that's interviewing sama asked if he'd be open to an AI safety summit with the worlds top ethicists to discuss guardrails and sama shut him down by saying he gets direct feedback from hundreds of millions of people(what <@312370916820779040> said sometime ago<a:SUS:1326788442549391401> ) and that is better than letting a few elites decide what is better policy, then the retard says what sama and openai are doing is like nazi Germany because they were also supported by millions of people(sama is jewish btw so its even more retarded to even imply this)....i cant with these leftwing loonies, they compare everything to nazi Germany and hitler 😭 though im glad this happened, sama was reminded how retarded these people are and should never cave to their wants.
zonchao: The talk prior to sama had this crazy decel bitch yapping about nazi Germany and trump too, she said she will protest sama because all AI is theft and the crowd was gassing her up like crazy. She thinks letting your kids use google is child abuse because google collects data for ads <:weirdcringe:818973627114455060>
zonchao: the second the shit was over he was ready to leave <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: why the wall of text
himekokatagiri: it's a simple matter and this goes beyond art
zonchao: because that interview was giga retarded
himekokatagiri: The hacks on twitter wanna make their dime churning out cheap porn
himekokatagiri: (no one buys drawings who are you fooling)
zonchao: ive seen what these people comm
zonchao: they pay good money for mid
himekokatagiri: sure if you have no choice
memlaswaif: what's the right wing opinion on ai
ailoveyoom: I guess they're bold enough to talk shit about Sama and AI (his life's work) right in front of him now? I feel like this'd only escalate 😔
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realelonmuskx: every day im forced to survive to keep chasing fleeting hits of dopamine because i have a biological debt with this duct taped dumb ass human body
himekokatagiri: I fought in the discord wars.
himekokatagiri: I'm a veteran
himekokatagiri: 2017 - 2019
.histic: damn you're ancient
himekokatagiri: how
himekokatagiri: barely a decade ago
.histic: 2017 was 20 years ago.
sarik0497: Have you heard of the Reddit Name War?
Such a horrible war…
himekokatagiri: I would never fight for reddit
joaoluz19: Does anyone know about AIXI? Crazy that there were already _mathematical_ models of super intelligent agents
.histic: explain
joaoluz19: It was exactly this kind of discussion about ASI that I was looking for, instead of blind speculation it is possible to formally demonstrate for example that a general agent is Pareto optimal i.e can't perform well in all environments and be the best in one
joaoluz19: It is a mathematical formalism of a theory of universal agents, that is, those that are capable of acting optimally in all environments.
joaoluz19: It is an extension of Solomonoff induction which is the ability of systems to completely predict any sequence that has a computable probability distribution. AIXI, in addition to what is called passive forecasting - the agent predicts that the market will appreciate but does not have the money to change the market - has the ability to act relevantly in the forecast itself.
xskydragon0: This thing is already real?
joaoluz19: Man, I'm loving this work that Ilya recommended so much, as I said, it's from a co-founder and head of AGI at Deepmind, his doctoral thesis I think.
joaoluz19: The problem is that the theory assumes infinite computation, I'm looking at how Shane Legg approaches the problem of finite computation. Obviously he didn't solve it because if he did we would already have an ASI
.histic: that seems way too theoretical for me.
.histic: isn't it like a what if?
.histic: 2.5 pro's explanation is pretty understandable
joaoluz19: I just started reading about it, it might be relevant for implementing these types of systems. For example, applying Solomonoff's induction might be a technique.
.histic: library of babel vibes
joaoluz19: It's very high level, but yes, that's the idea.
.histic: infinite feedback loop
joaoluz19: Kolmogorov complexity is uncomputable, but I once knew a researcher who was looking for estimates for it, for example. Continuing this work is precisely the job of researchers.
joaoluz19: But damn, the thesis has 200 pages wtf
aero447: https://carnewschina.com/2025/04/21/battery-giant-catl-showcases-three-innovations-1500km-range-battery-520km-in-5-minutes-ultra-fast-charging-and-2025-mass-production-sodium-ion-battery/
aero447: 🇨🇳
brain4brain: The average population still think we are 20 years to AGI, and that LLM won’t be AGI
aero447: No.
aero447: The average human has no idea AGI will exist.
aero447: None.
joaoluz19: I honestly don't know when we will get it. All predictions take in account that the rate of progress will continue
joaoluz19:
brain4brain: 2025
brain4brain: Yes you’re right, I should’ve phrased it better: median human who know what AGI is
joaoluz19: I mean, where tf are the agents?
joaoluz19: I felt the AGI with this quote ngl
himekokatagiri: 1966
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spicy.lemonade: I cant lie this shit pisses me off so much - so badly right now not gonna lie, are you seriously serious for real reaight now brother? laughing out loud, at this point just go be for real brother. I dont even know no more(any more). be right back gang(brother) got to go at this moment laughing my ass off, but this shit piss you off too just let me know laughing out loud, on brother(im not lying) - be for real right now like
playstation.6: <:shoggoth:1068342084408463510>
brain4brain: It’s an internet copy pasta
_wwwwww: Grok 3 with deeperresearch scored 100
spicy.lemonade: my left nutsack scored 100% pass@1
_wwwwww: It created AI tulpa of me
_wwwwww: but as it said, it lacks agentic capabilities
spicy.lemonade: if deepseekr2 is relatively cheap
spicy.lemonade: and scores that well on arc agi as claimed
spicy.lemonade: things are gonna get very good
wolf3404: https://wccftech.com/intel-former-ceo-claims-nvidia-ai-gpus-are-10000-times-more-expensive-than-what-is-needed-for-ai-inferencing/
wolf3404: Is 10,000 times a lot?
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290
maintcrew: "ts" 😭 🙏
maintcrew: 💔
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: ts has been used way before it became popular bud
spicy.lemonade: Idk what the issue is
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: i got this from R1
spicy.lemonade: R1 got gang wrong
.wolfnacht: gotta paste this in Ollama server
spicy.lemonade: And just let me know
.wolfnacht: sadly
zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1903794354084303296?
_wwwwww: Grok Generated Idea on its own for space study on its own
_wwwwww: <:Prayge:971836850455052339>
spicy.lemonade: Gets barrier wrong
futurist_wizard: The singularity mind
.wolfnacht: they haven't rolled the update on site : (
zonchao: they have, ig you didnt get it yet
zonchao: there is a toggle btw
.wolfnacht: google can't do more than just cutting and pasting : (
.wolfnacht: where ? lemme check
.wolfnacht: nvm it's only through shitter...i mean twitter
ailoveyoom: Yeah I think theirs struggle if you want to make too big of a change
ailoveyoom: It works incredible on smaller edits tho
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: yep great to remove some blemishes, change hue etc... everything which u could already do on literally any image editor post android 13, u can now do it via gemini app.
zonchao: wtf is wrong with you
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st.sioux: it came out like 2 weeks ago bro
spicy.lemonade: Agent 0 will be anthropic agent
spicy.lemonade: Or gpt 5 agent
metaldragon01: Wtf openai have that's 20k a month?
spicy.lemonade: Lol
metaldragon01: O4 pro?
st.sioux: im betting agents that can interact with desktops
metaldragon01: Ehh we have those already
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: Def agent
metaldragon01: It's obv an agent but so is o3
theaiguy69420_89814: o4-mini on cursor is actually dogshit
metaldragon01: What model is powering it that the inference cost is 20k
theaiguy69420_89814: 3.7 thinking still king
theaiguy69420_89814: And windsurf is retarded
theaiguy69420_89814: Can't use ur API keys
realelonmuskx: life is completley in vain but i have to gaslight myself that it matters so i get shit done btuh this is a fucking curse
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol
trojan09205: Yall ever seen that video with the guy who was involved in creating the concept neural network
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/wawMjJUCMVw?si=Wa91ZX5zeSwfPoEb
st.sioux: it might be because its streaming live and thats why its so expensive
st.sioux: not necessarily a new model
st.sioux: or completely new, like maybe o4 pro like u said
st.sioux: idk if that makes sense tbh
metaldragon01: o4 full or pro make the most sense to me atm
.histic: generalization in AI is interesting. on one hand, you’ve got how well they can derive patterns from each data point, and on the other, knowledge acquisition (either through synthetic or natural data) which aids also aids in generalization through richer connectivity. we’re pouring most of our effort into the latter and hoping it achieves human generalization. to me, i think it will just get narrow super intelligent AI in fields that will aid in improving the former (the architecture or algorithms) which will lead to true AGI down the road.
st.sioux: what is ur agi timeline
.histic: i'm not that confident tbh. things feel unpredictable atm.
my definition for AGI isn't that standard.
i'd say i'm pretty confident that it won't happen within this year or next.
i think realistically in the 2030s, but anything could happen 2028 and onwards that could change my sentiment.
ldj: An enterprise subscription that gives you 100x more rate limits than the $200 Pro subscription <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: On a serious note, remember a “model” is never a subscription price. GPT-4o is not a “$20 per month model”
And O1 pro isn’t a “$200 per month model” either.
The models are priced based on token cost, and any subscription is simply for a given amount of usage of model(s)
ldj: A $20,000 subscription probably simply be like 1,000X higher rate limits than $20 plus subscription.
clevermoniker: this, that thing has been blown out of proportion
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/physical_int/status/1914724966362440148
.histic: https://x.com/nickcammarata/status/1914808466595848658
zoermena: We are so back
clevermoniker: I think the autonomous and novel environment stuff is nice, but the actions seemed a bit simple, in real life things are much more cluttered
ldj: Funnily it looks like frontier models are converging on cost/performance with humans. (meaning that the moment frontier models achieve human level in arc-agi with Pass@1, will also be around the same time that they become as expensive to run as a human.)
hikukomoru: Is o4 full going to atleast reach "Avg Mturker" level?
himekokatagiri: I'm just worried the cash flow is gonna dry up due to the economy dying
himekokatagiri: and then we won't get public models anymore
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.histic: joking.
.histic: <:idk:1136264106937171999> i don't even try tbh
i just post what people may find engaging or insightful
destrucules: There's only one reddit approved response to this
destrucules: nice
rayanquitplayin: I agree
destrucules: This isn't the channel nor even the server for economics/politics but I'll just say, I've known some very selfless hardworking people who didn't make very much money
st.sioux: yea
st.sioux: hard work != financial success
rayanquitplayin: Yea cus there’s always a luck factor
rayanquitplayin: You have to work smart
destrucules: My mother was an elementary school science teacher. No one else connected to the local school system could do what she did. She was a force of nature. Changed kids' lives. Inspired tens of thousands of people. Won an international award for her efforts. She never made more than about $25k per year.
destrucules: She worked 65 hours a week and only made a part time salary
destrucules: She worked herself literally to death
.histic: oh wow
rayanquitplayin: Teachers deserve to be paid more
rayanquitplayin: They get robbed in society
rayanquitplayin: You guys watch Lex Fridman?
destrucules: Most teachers weren't like her. Every school, or most of them, has at least one teacher like her. Ridiculously dedicated, every student loves them, they're always arriving early, leaving many hours after close. Always volunteering for a hundred things, juggling a thousand responsibilities. There are others like my mom, but most teachers aren't like that
destrucules: Furthermore, her goal was to help people, and the people who needed help weren't the private school students with rich parents
st.sioux: teachers arguably produce the most value in all of society
.histic: "a fake screenshot generated by ChatGPT 4o of a Wikipedia article about the screenshot itself, with a copy of the screenshot in the article"
destrucules: See also:
• Droste effect
destrucules: Fucking brilliant
spicy.lemonade: Bro
spicy.lemonade: How do you guys
spicy.lemonade: Get it to draw copyright characters
destrucules: @Pliny
st.sioux: it sometiems does and sometimes doesnt
st.sioux: like for example with your profile picture guy, it refused first and then i said just do whatever to make it work, and then it did
st.sioux: weird af
destrucules: Oh boy... I hate to say this, but we don't have a free market
destrucules: Capitalism is characterized by competition. The actual economy is not capitalistic - it is spanned by monopolies that control each market unilaterally
destrucules: Whatever the invisible hand might do, it doesn't operate in the current paradigm
spicy.lemonade: Always stops generating image before it gives me the character
destrucules: Are you familiar with the phrase "exit strategy"?
.histic: copyrighted ig
brain4brain: I don’t know how midjourney can recover from all of this
brain4brain: How will midjourney v7 even compete
destrucules: Yeah I wasn't saying the innovation doesn't happen. I was saying the market isn't competitive
st.sioux:
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.histic: fbi open up.
ailoveyoom: It's cause anime and women
wellmeaningalien: NAH
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
wellmeaningalien: THE PROMPTER ASKED FOR PETITE
wellmeaningalien: aw hell nah
ailoveyoom: Lolis were the real poison in the data 😔
st.sioux:
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: bro people are prompting these images to be made as "iphone 6" now. iphone 6 is retro now
maintcrew: no 👊 🇺🇸 🔥 this lame as hell
maintcrew: please respect the canon
ailoveyoom: Shitty knowledge cut off date prolly
fractalcomputer: That's it, I'm becoming a Platonist.
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: HARD
wellmeaningalien: HAARD
st.sioux: i appreciate him letting us know he's mexican
memlaswaif: It's the head it keeps making head big
maintcrew: they gave stalin a cigg so he can aura farm harder
ailoveyoom:
zonchao: they made the model for hasan
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: yeah it does retarded stuff like that sometimes
ailoveyoom: Don't kinkshame 4o 😔
wellmeaningalien: ok this is hard asf
ailoveyoom: Maybe bro's into leg hair
_3sphere: colored leg hair 💀
wellmeaningalien: bro gooners are having a field day prompting this ai rn
wellmeaningalien: like every second post is some sort of woman with fat tits
ailoveyoom: You're browsing Sora gens rn then ig?
wellmeaningalien: human race gonna go extinct to gpt 4o image gen
wellmeaningalien: yes im not generating it 💀
wellmeaningalien: why do french people include emmanuel macron in these pictures as if hes relevant to anything in global geopolitics
st.sioux: i feel like this is the kind of shit komoru and moistmach get off to on an hourly basis
wellmeaningalien: yup
ailoveyoom: Nah
wellmeaningalien: komoru def gets off to this
ailoveyoom: Too human
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drewsni: O3 or o4 mini?
spicy.lemonade: O4 mini
literallyvarane: Does anyone know what the rate limits are for o3/4m?
spicy.lemonade:
literallyvarane: Bro what
himekokatagiri: is that gpt
gamerbath: wait really? is this where it says moon river?
sieventer: Can you do the same with Gemini 2.5 Pro?
spicy.lemonade: not my image
gamerbath: not sure if I could have come to that conclusion but it looks like it could be moon river. Is the cipher a red herring or does it somehow result in moon river too?
gamerbath: <@700712990269243472>
sieventer: XD
gamerbath: that's the wrong lemonade
gamerbath: <@471334973379706900>
spicy.lemonade: aparently it is moon river
.histic: <@88481490228228096> have you tried o4-mini on your geogusser benchmark?
hikukomoru: Where did you find this
spicy.lemonade: twitter
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: bruh
.histic: weird
.histic: i wonder what full o4 will get
.histic: also, did they even show the benchmarks for full o4?
spicy.lemonade: i presume o4 is using a different base model
spicy.lemonade: no
.histic: they will keep that for gpt-5 i bet lol
spicy.lemonade: maybe 40-50%
gamerbath: no, judging by the trend it is clear o4 will get 12%
gamerbath: and after o7 we will need easier benchmarks
otub: the point of the pic is that o3 has tools to zoom in to see the name of the song
otub: thats it, no cipher
.histic: it can see this grainy sticky note with a math problem on ithttps://x.com/goodside/status/1912604138518851990
hikukomoru: I am very impressed
hikukomoru: OAI cooked
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini high is holding its own agains 2300 elo advanced ches
spicy.lemonade: WTF
sieventer: I find how ridiculous are these tests, like, it's impressive but at the same time, it makes absolutely no sense. "solve this math problem in a small paper while there are a lot of toys" XD
Can't we use more real life scenarios? Impressive but at the same time, that it makes sense
spicy.lemonade: sonnet 70% swe bench doesnt count
spicy.lemonade: they use custom scafold
hikukomoru: OAI and Google are neck to neck it seems
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futurist_wizard: You might have sleep apnea
spicy.lemonade: Great way to end march
futurist_wizard: Or a deviated septum
spicy.lemonade: Every month this year
spicy.lemonade: Has been breakthrough
hikukomoru: We'll get LEV by 2035, and I'm only 20
So I think I have a good chance no matter how unhealthy my lifestyle may be
.wolfnacht: mine some nights are 5-6 hrs of sleep and then some are straight 12hr, idk why.
hey1_1hey: Makes sense, its higher in people who are lesser (Portuguese)
hikukomoru: Same
I either sleep 4 hours or 12
No inbetween
hey1_1hey: Oh I got that
futurist_wizard: I always sleep 7-8
hey1_1hey: I am 18 so I should be able to shoot fent in the back and be fine
hikukomoru: Based
You should totally do that
st.sioux: i slept 3 last night spent too much time playing with 4o and had to make up for not working all day 😭😭
.wolfnacht: anyone else ? who's sleep breaks at 3:33, in middle of night just to pee ?
oooooooooog: no i just absorb it back into my blood
hikukomoru: Wtf
Racist bitch
hey1_1hey: No I am christian and christians dont do bad things like drugs 🙏
sarik0497: ”May” get LEV.
I hate to be the buzz killer, but it’s not inevitable.
Although I wish so I didn’t have to fear death all the time…
oooooooooog: LEV is inevitable in the same way ASI is
hey1_1hey: You are the one who turned me racist for being portuguuese
hikukomoru: I always wake up in the middle of the night to pee
Small bladder
futurist_wizard: Rat piss
.wolfnacht: i've never met a portuguese in my life, what's the stereotype for them ?
oooooooooog: they always have a port for geese
hey1_1hey: I haven't either tbf
hey1_1hey: From what I've gathered tho is that they are really small and annoying
hikukomoru: It's inevitable
I will live for a million years minimum
spicy.lemonade: Jan: Operator, o3 mini high, sora and veo2, deepseek r1.
Feb: 4.5, grok 3, qwen, figure
hey1_1hey: *Doom OST starts playing*
hikukomoru: Short, hairy, simple minded
.wolfnacht: || Life would be soo easy if there was a Android maid who would suck your piss out of you, and let the master sleep in peace, without having to get up. ||
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-gif-14026649281713077235
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160
.wolfnacht: literally ronaldo, wait no...he's not short
oooooooooog: guys, we call that the bloodstream.
oooooooooog: ur blood already sucks ur piss out of u when ur dehydrated
hikukomoru: We are all small yes
But I'm the most annoying one
ailoveyoom: Brother even I'm not this much of a gooner 🙏
hey1_1hey: You just gave me an idea
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ailoveyoom: Notice how the LL, M and A are capitalized too 🤯
spicy.lemonade: The next step is 3d
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
_letterbox: Is the new image thing only for paying users?
etnin_: yea
spicy.lemonade: Who will be the first company to implement this but in 3d
_letterbox: Sadge
spicy.lemonade: Imagine 3d generation at this level
brain4brain: Now what’s your AGI timeline
_letterbox: Wanna test it out first
spicy.lemonade: This didn’t change my agi timeline
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: It’s a cool thing
_letterbox: Maybe on openrouter it's available?
brain4brain: What’s your OG timeline
spicy.lemonade: 2027
etnin_: same
spicy.lemonade: I feel like 2027 is reasonable
spicy.lemonade: But could even come this year
spicy.lemonade: In some form
spicy.lemonade: Depends on what gpt 5 is
spicy.lemonade: But openAI really delivered
spicy.lemonade: I have high hopes
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Mfs are mad about anything
spicy.lemonade: Christ
st.sioux: what did u expect from x
st.sioux: lol
.wolfnacht: dat's why competition is important
st.sioux: he has that e/acc thingy too, zon chao and danserk have it too and they always say the wildest shit as well
ailoveyoom: You don't think this update can potentially make it better at visual problems?
spacetimetsunami: I mean as AI gets better with image and vid its just getting a better world model
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: No clue
.wolfnacht: from now on, nothing will feel real anymore...and it'll intensify from here.
spacetimetsunami: so it does give credence to coherence of its environment
spacetimetsunami: the better way to word this is that good vid and image gen is proof that it is getting a better world model
spicy.lemonade: It’s a 2d world model
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ailoveyoom: Try playing a chess game with new 4o lol
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alejandrozarzuelo: I was almost a 20 yr old virgin tbh
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so.
zoermena: Hormones go crazy
hikukomoru: Idk why but I thought he was like 16 or 18
zonchao: no way
futurist_wizard: At what age did everyone here supposedly lose their virginity at? Mine was 15
zoermena: That’s interesting, why would you say so?
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not really surprising, I live in a VERY conservative household
zonchao: ah
fractalcomputer: It's pointless to speculate.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey-frieren-anime-frieren-book-drop-book-dropping-gif-5586080115796339217
hikukomoru: You?
okbut: If it's both having a sexual attraction for someone + not enjoying sex, it might be about the way it's carried out not being to how you see fit
okbut: Same for masturbation
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so.
okbut: What do you have in mind
zoermena: The only relationship I’ve even been on was with a Thailand dude that catfished me for a Russian woman.
fractalcomputer: Sex is sex. There are only so many relatively sane ways of going about it.
zonchao: arent you from mexico
okbut: And then there's FetLife
zoermena: Yes, it was Instagram based
fractalcomputer: I would not like to know.
okbut: There's someone out there with a similar mind
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530
_3sphere: Okay it's midnight
_3sphere: Night guys 🥰
futurist_wizard: Night night
zoermena: No stay
_3sphere: I have sleep debt sorry 😭
hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦
zonchao:
fractalcomputer: I don't understand you people.
okbut: Dude in my frat asked me to check his pics on there, but he was looking for 100% platonic, that's like a friend
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
okbut: I can't understand platonics
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
I'm a late bloomer
But you know what they say, the late flower blooms more intensely
fractalcomputer: I didn't know that they said that.
hikukomoru: This is a map of the average age Europeans lose their virginity
zonchao: never heard anyone say this
alejandrozarzuelo: You learn something new every day
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futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: My favourite subreddit is now /artisthate
spicy.lemonade: Been ages since sota
spicy.lemonade: Need sota now
spicy.lemonade: Where tf is qwen
st.sioux: google just killed call centers
st.sioux: zamnn
ailoveyoom: The latency still feels noticable to me
ldj: The future is now
ldj:
_cloudost: The stream is over
_cloudost: Where's Veo 2
st.sioux: vertex ai
jonvi_1: Do you remember how the White House demented the message about a 90-day tariff pause yesterday?
jonvi_1: Saying it was fake news, they just announced a 90-day tariff pause 🙃
st.sioux: yea theyre just manipulating the market so they can buy low after the poors had to sell
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jv63ew/microsoft_backing_off_building_new_1b_data_center/
sarik0497: welp
sarik0497: Bye bye, 1 billion dollars data centers.
_cloudost: $0.35 per second
_cloudost: $42 to make a 2 minute long AI slop video
futurist_wizard: Good deal
st.sioux: they give you like $300 USD if you upgrade to paid tier
st.sioux: but you have a time limit to use them
futurist_wizard: Even if it ten x's in price as long as it is actually improves and becomes usable from big studios it will be tremendously cost effective
trey6033: Some people are getting Veo for free
trey6033: On aistudio
_cloudost: really? how much does it cost to uprgarde?
_cloudost: thats 3-4 hours
st.sioux: yeah its 300 usd i fucked up the currencies
st.sioux: i just added my billing details
_cloudost: veo 2 costs 0.5 on vertex
okbut: Bought the dip
_cloudost: who
_cloudost: gemini advanced users?
_cloudost: o
_cloudost: anyone got it?
ailoveyoom: Source?
ailoveyoom: Where/who did you see it from?
trey6033: User in another discord is sending videos, they're a free user
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futurist_wizard: Your pfp is even more cringe
hey1_1hey: The horse balls in RDR2 shrink when it gets called
They have Penis type A and Penis type B in BG3
hey1_1hey: I can make exceptations
hikukomoru: What happened to the Jensen x Elon kissing pfp? <@750270494615404544>
zonchao:
zonchao: we will be launching soon, jensen x elon was so q1
futurist_wizard: 'we'
hikukomoru: exceptions*
Speak English please
hikukomoru: And I'm the one who's supposed to be ESL
futurist_wizard: I think mushroom has dyslexia
hey1_1hey: Counter offer: I am borderline dyslexic
hikukomoru: I think he's just retarded
hey1_1hey: I got tested twice and it was borderline so lets go with that
futurist_wizard: I do have dyslexia, sometimes wo rds wi ll l ook l ike t h is
hey1_1hey: Exact reason why I say borderline and why I think I dont have dyslexia. I dont want to think I am retarded and stupid
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-gif-12280691131005323983
hey1_1hey: Pretty coherent still I'd say
zonchao: i am the local spacex/xAI/X rep 😤
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
literallyvarane: Curious what we expect 4.1 to be if it’s API exclusive?
futurist_wizard: It is not, i have to regularly check if I've spelt words correctly
zonchao: why would it be
futurist_wizard: I used to draw letters & numbers the wrong way round
literallyvarane:
zonchao: they just doin it for cursor
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: API??
spicy.lemonade: kill me
literallyvarane: They never announced any other model like that if I recall correctly
futurist_wizard: Bruh 💤 its snoozing stream
zonchao: samas excitement on twitter feels very fake
literallyvarane: Is this just a much cheaper model? Or misc other dev friendly features to a still broadly 4o model?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673
ailoveyoom: Does this mean it's like super expensive 🤔
zonchao: bitch is excited about every damn feature
hikukomoru: 20k
literallyvarane: Even 4.5 was in the app tho
spicy.lemonade: might be opensource
ailoveyoom: Then why gate it to API only 😔
spicy.lemonade: think about it
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futurist_wizard: What about the near drugs that just lower myostatin therefore building muscle without doing anything
futurist_wizard: Those are in the pipeline
wellmeaningalien: like atari lynx and game gear were objectively superior specs wise but they were way too expenive and nobody wanted to buy it and so they didnt get nearly the same software support
alejandrozarzuelo: What do you mean?
fuhulootogan: what is your point
wellmeaningalien: but today u could never pass with a console with no backlight or colors lol
st.sioux: because i think you're talking about coaching in the sense of training not during competition
alejandrozarzuelo: My point is to let AI coach humans, we won't be getting any better
alejandrozarzuelo: Isn't this what coaching is!
alejandrozarzuelo: You get a coach
fuhulootogan: better as in intelligence?
alejandrozarzuelo: And they train you
alejandrozarzuelo: We were talking about athletic performance but intelligence too
st.sioux: coaching encompasses everything from training to execution during competition, rules during competition get stricter to level the playing field
fuhulootogan: well tbf we're pretty smart on our own and theres not really an "evolutionary" incentive to have shmorter brains
st.sioux: that is why financial fair play rules exist and other similar regulations
futurist_wizard: KA POW
wellmeaningalien: people who say humans are pathetic as if intelligence is objective and measurable contrasted to some control
wellmeaningalien: <a:droid_cry_squish:1229586954518007869>
fuhulootogan: you can't really compare say, AGI to humans
fuhulootogan: they're quite literally built to be superior than humans
futurist_wizard: We've peaked. In human intelligence. We need more intelligence to make. Significant improvements in technology and science
fuhulootogan: that is their function
wellmeaningalien: an ant is 100x smarter than a human at forming awesome ass circles
fuhulootogan: so yeah we might come off as pathetic when compared to AGI
fuhulootogan: lotta artists in the world
zoermena: So negative prompts work really freaking well in veo 2, this one has less cloud cum
fuhulootogan: they don't give up art knowing they'll probably never be a leonardo da vinci
zoermena:
fuhulootogan: same goes for pretty much anything
futurist_wizard: Holy shit why so much smoke in the forest
fuhulootogan: very fast clouds
fuhulootogan: aaaaa
zoermena: Assume a Timelapse
zoermena: It used to be worse and they are supposed to be clouds but yes
zoermena: Since it’s image to image
fuhulootogan: smarter?
fuhulootogan: or better?
fuhulootogan: thats like narrow AI shit
zoermena: This is the original
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wellmeaningalien: anyway enough basics
wellmeaningalien: uhhh lot of yap not bad i guess
wellmeaningalien: so what are the cores of its prediction
wellmeaningalien: its good that its focusing on q2 onwards
retrerox: Idk if u would like me to print this in pdf so u read it or idk
wellmeaningalien: just tell me what models it lists out
wellmeaningalien: just the crux of it
retrerox: Well i got this table
wellmeaningalien: are there more?
wellmeaningalien: ok so
st.sioux: so it is stupid
retrerox: there is a lot of info
retrerox: i just dont know what to grab xd
futurist_wizard: Its trying its best
theaiguy69420_89814: Anyone here use windsurf
futurist_wizard: Don't berate the ai
wellmeaningalien: this model got gemini 3.0 pro, gpt 5 and the open source model but it still forgot that its supposed to predict upcoming models and not models already out
st.sioux: oh wait no nvm it says released dates for already released models
st.sioux: didnt catch that
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: well idiot just list out the name of the models it says
wellmeaningalien: like gpt 4 gpt 5 gpt 6 gpt shit gpt poo
wellmeaningalien: he'll die with his life sized spermatozoids at his side thats fo sho
wellmeaningalien: bro will probably be fucking into his 80s
wellmeaningalien: i hate that youre going to be the only one to survive the ai apocalypse when it happens
futurist_wizard: I will
wellmeaningalien: <@636544123096137738> bro if its too hard to screenshot just paste the entire text as a message ok
wellmeaningalien: bros league game getting too heated 😭
st.sioux: he got mad bc you called him an idiot
retrerox: I'm jusut gonna attach the pdf
retrerox: xd
retrerox:
retrerox: I think it had an issue uploading
retrerox: or can u read it?
retrerox: Just say thank you everyt time you ask something to chatgpt
wellmeaningalien: 3mb lol
wellmeaningalien: run the other prompt thru now slave
futurist_wizard: Poll on highest IQ Americans
wellmeaningalien: lemme read it
retrerox: Is it that hard to figure out they put chocolate and milk into a blender?
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alejandrozarzuelo: americans have always had this culture of hyping and being good salesmen
ldj: If that happened, I would still call you irrational for getting triggered about him posting pictures of the sun
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
alejandrozarzuelo: wtf
whitecollar american?
ldj: Let the man post pictures of the sun smh
alejandrozarzuelo: why are you thinking so small
alejandrozarzuelo: AMERICAN?
alejandrozarzuelo: this is not a national phenomenon
literallyvarane: Theoretically other countries could outlaw it.
alejandrozarzuelo: why did you even mention the US at all?
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean not more than the US ca
literallyvarane: Is that an incorrect statement?
alejandrozarzuelo: they can just as much as the US
alejandrozarzuelo: so, it is irrelevant
alejandrozarzuelo: why did you talk about the US when th impacts on the workforce have nothing to do with the US or US borders
alejandrozarzuelo: its like if i say vegan tomatoes, or absestos free cereal
alejandrozarzuelo: why would I say something that has no impact on the content of what i am saying
alejandrozarzuelo: unless you are implying that there are absestos full cereal or that the US is different somehow
literallyvarane: Bro what
alejandrozarzuelo: let me give you an example of why what you said was wildly inappropiate
literallyvarane: *Inappropriate?*
alejandrozarzuelo: "... ... ... to directly impact the economic wellbeing of every white collar worker in silicon valley"
if this was your comment it would be inappropiate right? we know that there is nothing special about silicon valley that makes the impacts on employment there any different than in LA or tokyo or paris
alejandrozarzuelo: yes because you are implying that the US is a special country that merits special interest
alejandrozarzuelo: the impacts of AI wont be felt any less strong in NYC than in SF, neither theyll be felt in germany thn in the US
literallyvarane: This isn’t a convincing argument imo. Would it *likely* impact people outside of America. Sure.
Is stating that it impacts Americans inappropriate? No.
alejandrozarzuelo: saying that this is somthing that we should care about because it affects the US is insensitive and inappropiate
alejandrozarzuelo: by mentioning the US despite the fact that US borders have no impact on AI employiment you are giving a value judgement on US workers and the US in general where their concerns are more important
literallyvarane: If someone in America was like “yo these forever chemicals are fucking up the health of people in Virginia, that’s not *wildly inappropriate* to say, even if those chemicals are eventually a global issue.
alejandrozarzuelo: "how will AI affect the white man" is inappropiate, since all races will be affected equally but you are concerning yourself only with on
alejandrozarzuelo: sure white men will be affected, but how much they are affected by has nothing t do with skin color
alejandrozarzuelo: so by mentioning just one you are implying additional importance
literallyvarane: Literally anything that ever happens theoretically has international relevancy. It’s not *wildly inappropriate* to think about the country it originates from.
literallyvarane: Honestly can’t tell if I’m being trolled or not.
alejandrozarzuelo: this is not eventually a global issue, this is a thing that is simultaneous
alejandrozarzuelo: americans are so drunk in their exceptionalism that they cant think that not abiding by it is cant be anything but a troll
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, chinese AI companies by virtue of being much quieter are much better for PR
alejandrozarzuelo: underpromise, overdeliver
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: Bro even ChatGPT is like chill lolololol
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hikukomoru: Do things have to produce value to matter
popsiclejohnithan: How can you be an Anglophobe and like Lovecraft? The biggest Anglophile ever.
ailoveyoom: I accidentally watched 50 Shades when I was too young and the 'aesthetic' of dom/sub was drilled into my impressionable brain 😔
fractalcomputer: I don't think I am. I just can't really sympathise with other people.
_3sphere: I don't know what happened exactly to result in my set of weird fantasies
futurist_wizard: Porn happened
_3sphere: Some of them predate porn use
fractalcomputer: The whole idea of sex seems rather mechanistic and purposeless.
popsiclejohnithan: Just the internet in general.
futurist_wizard: I don't have any weird fantasies
hikukomoru: That's just porn brain then
For me it's not just about pleasure but also about the emotional connection
futurist_wizard: I don't think at least
popsiclejohnithan: Its purpose is pleasure, and reproduction.
fractalcomputer: I just don't understand such human affairs in general.
fractalcomputer: I would object to that notion since natural selection is not really teleological.
okbut: <#1136263237533442108>
https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108
futurist_wizard: Gay sex doesn't exactly involve reproduction
hikukomoru: Just the pleasure 😈
zonchao: yet
hikukomoru: yet
fractalcomputer: Well, for me they would.
ailoveyoom: I'm the opposite, I need emotional condoms 🤔
Like, even reading first person smut or watching POV videos feel super weird to me.
hikukomoru: What about pleasure for the sake of pleasure?
alejandrozarzuelo: Why I is it that whenever you talk you make yourself look creepier
popsiclejohnithan: Hell yeahhh.
futurist_wizard: I don't have any pregnancy fetishes, a girl kept trying to play up to something like that with me, total turn off
fractalcomputer: I am a very anhedonic person.
hikukomoru: Emotional condoms 💀
hikukomoru: I need an emotional connection otherwise it doesn't feel like anything to me
fractalcomputer: I am very upfront with the fact that I am not capable of empathy with people I know well.
_3sphere: First person? Wouldn't it be second person?
ailoveyoom: And that sounds nice, but also scawy <:coy:1187466404367175821>
popsiclejohnithan: It's the same reason food makes you happy man, we are programmed to like things that continue the survival of the species. you get dopamine rewards for continuing to survive and espeshally making more people with another.
okbut: I thought you were American
futurist_wizard: I don't have any one night stands, i have had 3 and didn't like the careless experience
fractalcomputer: I am not American.
hikukomoru: If you (ever) have sex one day, try doing it with someone you like for your first time
zonchao: LLLLLLLLL
ailoveyoom: More on first person, but 2nd person also feels icky to me fsr.
fractalcomputer: Food does not make me happy.
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trojan09205: You a real one <@688807313015963693>
okbut: Mutual love for ideas counts
alejandrozarzuelo: I think fractal just is someone who can't feel many things besides apathy, disgust and rage
alejandrozarzuelo: Or at least those are the only emotions I see him have
futurist_wizard: Be nice
himekokatagiri: https://www.rxddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k99f0f/young_people_dont_live_like_youve_got_forever/
himekokatagiri: Thoughts?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-halloween-motosierra-jason-gif-18840246
himekokatagiri: honestly idk what to live for my live wouldn't be different if there was no AI revolution
hikukomoru: Don't be mean now
himekokatagiri: dude's out of touch
himekokatagiri: I think that's hot tbh
hikukomoru: You think Alejandro being mean is hot
hikukomoru: Weird taste man
himekokatagiri: no this
himekokatagiri: but Alejandro deserves some hotness too
alejandrozarzuelo: ? i dont understand lol
hikukomoru: I think this guy should have tempered his expectations
Kurzweil's timeline is 2029 after all
alejandrozarzuelo: you mean that i deserve to have hot takes?
alejandrozarzuelo: i agree
himekokatagiri: No you have hot points
hikukomoru: I think he's calling you hot
hikukomoru: Idk
himekokatagiri: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
alejandrozarzuelo: thx in that case 😎
hey1_1hey: Himeko is after Cloudo AND Alejandro now
hey1_1hey: Crazy work
alejandrozarzuelo: idk what himeko even looks like, hasnt he been on the server for very little?
himekokatagiri: I suck irl
himekokatagiri: but I'm banking on fdvr
himekokatagiri: uoooh
hikukomoru: He looks like his pfp
Carl-bot#1536:
alejandrozarzuelo: cringe
mens sana in corpore sano
alejandrozarzuelo: or as I say it
alejandrozarzuelo: "En esta vida hay que agradar al ojo, corazón y mente, por eso hay que ser sexy, carismatico e inteligente"
alejandrozarzuelo: spanish proverb
coined by
me
hikukomoru: He tried to go after me and AnathemaOfMankind too
He's a little horndog
himekokatagiri: 😭 wish
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
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hey1_1hey: Oh thats a rat 💀
realelonmuskx: stop anthropomorphizing animals and drawings blud
futurist_wizard: -10e37iq
hey1_1hey: I just got shit eye sight leave me alone 😭
hey1_1hey: If me being blind in one eye was on anyones bingo you can check that off now
futurist_wizard: You know bleach doesn't improve eyesight right?
hey1_1hey: Really? Have you had first hand experince to?
hikukomoru: Elon what the fuck are you talking about
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160
hey1_1hey: I have now read it 5 times and it still doesn't make any fucking sense
hey1_1hey: Good job though 👍
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
hikukomoru: "A flying fish" 💔
hey1_1hey: Its pretty close bro 😭
hey1_1hey: I mean they both have yanno
hey1_1hey: A body
hey1_1hey: matter
hikukomoru: Elon is tweaking on that Ketamine
hey1_1hey: They are both animals aswell
hey1_1hey: What a g, I love dissociative drugs
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: To wtf that goes hard
hey1_1hey: I dont know why the guy is wearing the bisexual flag as a jumper tho <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: Because I am
hey1_1hey: Ah that didn't tick in my brain 😭
hey1_1hey: I thought it was just someone random until I looked at your pfp
zoermena: When I finish my breakfast I’ll replace myself with komoru
hey1_1hey: Just what I want to see, my weird gremlin of a hallucination in image form and me asking them what the fuck are they talking about
memlaswaif: zor r u femboy
hikukomoru: I image that's what both of u look like irl
hey1_1hey: I dont even look close to that
hikukomoru: Just two homos
hey1_1hey: I like dick aswell thank you very much
hikukomoru: He said he's trying to become a femboy
hey1_1hey: What a guy
hikukomoru: I support him on his journey
memlaswaif: same
memlaswaif: we need moar femboys in this world
hey1_1hey: Femboys are based (this is coming from the based femboy society)
zoermena: Im on the process of becoming “one” I do have some features I just need some polishing, end result is my profile picture
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ailoveyoom: If only people's first exposure to AI were cute Claude shenanigans 🥺
sweetievee__33649: i need it in 5 at this rate
sweetievee__33649: too much brain dead ai slander
drewsni:
zonchao: this must be their personal 9/11
zonchao: at least 13 9/11s
hikukomoru: Twitter artists are turning me into a mini-Hitler
futurist_wizard: Ray Kurtzweil needs it in like 6 months
sweetievee__33649: is he really doing that badly
zonchao: lmao
hikukomoru: He's already going senile
hikukomoru: He looks and sounds like shit in his interview with Lex Fridman
futurist_wizard: The guy naturally doesn't have good longevity genes, hes older than when his dad died of natural causes
zonchao: expooonential
sweetievee__33649: i have actually never heard him talk now that i think about it
drewsni:
ailoveyoom: It's called being old <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: I honestly doubt Kurtzweil is gonna make it, if he does he'd be very, very lucky
sweetievee__33649: i really hope he does
zonchao: yea literally rescaling... they were probably not expecting rl and thinking models
hikukomoru: Papa Ray is not gonna reach LEV 💔
sweetievee__33649: he was the guy who predicted all this
zonchao: when they signed deals
drewsni: its ok we will revive him thru quantum archeology
.wolfnacht: i wished dat satya nutella guy didn't drop that WizardLLM idea
sweetievee__33649: ill send him a message through carrier pigeon
drewsni: they just wanted to get out of europe
drewsni: which can you blame them
zonchao: oh
zonchao: lmaooo
hikukomoru: He plans on cryopreservation
zonchao: i thought they cancelled some here too
drewsni: the canceled datacenter leases were euro and instantly picked up by meta
futurist_wizard: Roger penrose is 93 and can string sentences together way better than ray Kurtzweil can at 77, its not just because of being old
drewsni: wisconsin but that was cause they lost stargate
zonchao: oh
hikukomoru: Yeah that's cause Ray takes like hundreds of pills every day
hikukomoru: Not exagerating
hikukomoru: He's drugged up
zonchao: they got a new stargate now with the AIP or whatever
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futurist_wizard: Don't think i can send it
hikukomoru: Have you been generating smexy women
joaoluz19: Fractal will understand, we are doing a formal study of the impact of AI on society
joaoluz19: Just put spoiler
futurist_wizard: Generated elf Ghibli woman
futurist_wizard: Just to see
futurist_wizard: Its weird how gpt asks me to be respectful
futurist_wizard: And not generate sexual imagery
futurist_wizard: And yet it will gladly generate big ass
joaoluz19: Send it bro. Now.
joaoluz19: We need to see
joaoluz19: If you don't send the AI winter will come
777agical: why not just use a flux lora for that
futurist_wizard: I'll put a spoiler over it
hikukomoru: Using censored models for corn
It's liek a forbidden fruit
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Wrong reply
hikukomoru: Waow
Is that Zelda
futurist_wizard: But whatever
futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: Its a random elf Ghibli girl
futurist_wizard: Lmao
futurist_wizard: Why does gpt keep insisting it wants to keep it respectful
futurist_wizard: While generating this smut
.histic:
.histic: didn't rly follow my prompt. she is supposed to be looking at a mirror of her reflection
darkstar0818: The head angle looks off.
darkstar0818: The boob angle is
.histic: create a photorealistic anime girl looking at her reflection in the mirror. her backside is facing the camera. she has macromastia, a slim waist, but respectfully make her glutes big as a result of her showing off the hard work she has done at the gym.
st.sioux: macromastia lmao
futurist_wizard: Respectful
.histic: here's another
.histic: removed photorealistic this time
futurist_wizard:
.histic: bro wtf
.histic: lmao
futurist_wizard:
joaoluz19: LOOOL
joaoluz19: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
ldj: maybe within 5 years? 20 years max I think
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okbut: I got ADHD too, it's great in concept but I still struggle with the dedication to actually using it lmao
ailoveyoom: What other colors are there lol
okbut: >Sets timer
>Doesn't actually work during the timer
oops
joaoluz19: My friends who are much more intelligent than me listen to anything studying like rock, rap, pop
hey1_1hey: I don't mind green actually.
joaoluz19: I personally can't concentrate with lyrics
zoermena: I made a shortcut on my phone that immediately starts a pomodoro session it opens my music app and when the times over it starts an automatic break pausing music, then it asks me if I want to go for another session but for some reason it breaks on the last part
okbut: Idk if "brown noise" is a thing, but there is a famous myth about a "brown note" (a frequency that can make you suddenly want to poop)
zoermena: I hope this myth can help my poor digestion
_3sphere: Might have been Brownian noise
ailoveyoom: White note (a frequency that can make you suddenly want to ejaculate)
okbut: > The "brown note" is a hypothetical infrasonic frequency (around 5-9 Hz) that is believed to cause fecal incontinence by resonating with the human bowel, but it's an urban myth with no scientific basi
wellmeaningalien: Brown note makes uu shit
hey1_1hey: I struggled with using it for ages. I use the vivaldi browser because you can setup these things called "workspaces" there. Its where you can block out sections for differnt types of things like liesure, gaming, work etc etc. Mine is maths and I have this extension that blocks me from going on any other website apart from the yotuube pink noise, khan acedmy and chatgpt for explaing stuff. I then put my phone downstairs and and turn off one of my monitors so I dont get distracted.
Its a whole process to actually get working and not getting distracted but its what I gotta do.
hey1_1hey: People who listen to that lofi girl are insane
okbut: My problem is rooted in ADHD itself - I will rebel and do wtf I want
okbut: No timer can hold me down
joaoluz19: Don't like lofi either
hey1_1hey: I've tried before but I just vibed to it too hard. I gotta listen to pink noise so my brain has something to concentrate on
st.sioux: i watch movies while i work lol
zoermena: It’s very hard to find something that is good, white noises and others are more consistent
okbut: You should look into the Flowtime technique, it's an improvement upon Pomodoro that actually takes use of the flow state that you get into, which overrides the "breaks" that pomodoro allots you by consolidating them
hey1_1hey: I used to be like that aswell <:LOL:1187460826572005436>.
joaoluz19: Now I'm a hostage to piano and classical music, like really dependent.
hey1_1hey: I could never, I'd just end up watching the movie
ailoveyoom: What about tips to ACTUALLY sit down and start working? My flow state comes easy, but I procrasinate a lot
hey1_1hey: Oooo that seems interesting. Let me go have a look now ty
_3sphere: no it's not the pants shitter cognitohazard sound
st.sioux: commit to a small task and you usually just stick to working
joaoluz19: Wtf is that emoji
st.sioux: like "i will write one function" or "i will work for 5 minutes"
hey1_1hey: I've tried getting myself to just be like "only study for 5 mins" but then I would sit down and have an overwhelming sense of tiredness to the point I am moments away from falling asleep
_3sphere: Do you have sleep debt? Does that for me
okbut: Italian composers are good
hey1_1hey: Not that I know of. I sleep like a king anyway
ailoveyoom: Sleep debt is fake, once you lose that 8 hours your life span goes brr 😔
ailoveyoom: Me but with ASMR for sleep
ailoveyoom: 😏
joaoluz19: I need the update on AVM for this
hey1_1hey: I've tried doing maths on <4 hours of sleep and I remember it vividly
Try and work out 17-4
Sit there for 2 and half mins trying to figure out
Say 12
Get it wrong
I need sleep to do maths, noted
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brain4brain: Pliny did it a while back to jailbreak it
brain4brain: Another trick is to make it generate half way, then screenshot, then took the incomplete image and make GPT-4o finish it
mihrcelium: Nah, I actually respect their content restrictions. I don't feel the need to breach them just for a Shaq meme.
mihrcelium: <:fg_angelic:1154840956886077500>
st.sioux: sometimes it just hallucinates restrictions apparently
st.sioux: it made a png of sydney sweeney waving for me
brain4brain: What is Sam’s Altman alt saying to his main alt account bro
st.sioux:
mihrcelium: This, animated generatively and with Sesame's Maya voice. We're cooked, brahs.
st.sioux: sothebys is going to be auctioning nft girlfriends
mihrcelium: Like, I know you're joshing but...
.histic:
spicy.lemonade: its become a trend to hate ai lol:
https://youtu.be/EfM3RZIWp44
spicy.lemonade: he was very happy
spicy.lemonade: about dalle 3
anathemaofmankind: Does this mean I can make porn soon
anathemaofmankind: Sigh
.histic: yes.
the exponentials say so.
.histic: pornGPT
.histic: i haven't watched mutahar* in ages
anathemaofmankind: I hope mutahar gets into more drama and gets his channel removed
.histic: but he either makes great takes or the most low IQ dumb takes
anathemaofmankind: He's beefing with hasan right now
.histic: it is better than what artist can create therefore it should be illegal.
that's what i'm hearing.
spicy.lemonade: bro he thinks all it does is filter
anathemaofmankind: That's so dumb
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: its not a filter
spicy.lemonade: every normie thinks this
spicy.lemonade: annoying
anathemaofmankind: Oh my god I can't man
anathemaofmankind: I just want the basilisk to come alive and reduce these ppl to amorphous blobs
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/R51lAC_n_lw
.histic: Mutahar said he uses Grok's DeeperResearch on the daily.. interesting.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is literally aider polyglot benchmark
spicy.lemonade: 🤦♂️
mihrcelium: (I didn't know it was called "DeeperResearch." <:sigh:1126597462115758110> )
anathemaofmankind: How well does it do on the benchmark
.histic: i mean DeeperSearch
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okbut: fedyakin deez nuts
zoermena: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1215724928104398958/1293129262769111093
futurist_wizard: I like caramel coffee milkshake, anything coffee flavour
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't know, again.
futurist_wizard: I used to eat coffee cake everyday
hikukomoru: Coffee makes anything taste better, same with chocolate
popsiclejohnithan: Fair enough man, as long as you're not in pain.
hikukomoru: Also i am a coffee addict
zonchao: do you take any meds 🤔
fractalcomputer: Why should you care?
futurist_wizard: Coffee doesn't do anything for me, taste is okay though
fractalcomputer: No.
hikukomoru: He drinks whiskey
Does that count
hikukomoru: Alchohol is like medicine
fractalcomputer: And vodka and gin etc.
popsiclejohnithan: It's nice to be nice, where would we be as a species without empethy?
zoermena: <:timpray:738161169436639433>
futurist_wizard: Terrible for aging and the liver
fractalcomputer: So is living.
hikukomoru: Wine is good for the heart though
_3sphere: From fetish posting to Fractal therapy 😭
hikukomoru: That's why I'll live for a million years
fractalcomputer: This wouldn't seem like therapy to me.
futurist_wizard: Living is good for living though
futurist_wizard: A nice counterbalance
okbut: It would be therapeutic giving me active role
fractalcomputer: Have any of you actually had sex, well, besides Trent?
popsiclejohnithan: No lmao.
okbut: Many men
futurist_wizard: Yes, i used to be a sex addict
futurist_wizard: Very bad
hikukomoru: sex
okbut: More men than you
zonchao: <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>
futurist_wizard: I haven't had sex with any men but i would like to
zonchao: i see
hikukomoru: Download grindr
hikukomoru: Zon can help you out with that
futurist_wizard: Disgusting
alejandrozarzuelo: What exactly does this mean
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ailoveyoom: Bro I remember you being hyped for that o3 reveal on the livestream 😭
wellmeaningalien: my guess: deepseek v3.1/gemini 2.0 pro level model
spicy.lemonade: music right after art
spicy.lemonade: Lmaoooo
literallyvarane:
anathemaofmankind: I was tricked and thought it was like AGI or smthing
spicy.lemonade: We are so back
hikukomoru: Lmao why
literallyvarane: Get in here we doing ANY type of model name now lololol
anathemaofmankind: It was above humans in the ARC AGI benchmark
literallyvarane: GPT 3.9 when??
metaldragon01: 4.1 is sonnet 3.7 level
metaldragon01: With longer context
hikukomoru: Benchmarks don't really mean that much in the real world
wellmeaningalien: in that moment we all felt the AGI
literallyvarane: GPT 4.20 or 4.69 when?
anathemaofmankind: Yes I agree
wellmeaningalien: SATs mean a whole lot about whether u are retarded or intellectually capable
zoermena: Next month
hikukomoru: I won't feel the AGI until I have an android maid cleaning my house
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
spicy.lemonade: HYPEEEEE
spicy.lemonade: WE ARE SO BACK
wellmeaningalien: honestly i think it's not gonna be all that bad
spicy.lemonade: This week was so slow
wellmeaningalien: kekekekekekek
wellmeaningalien: slow week?
hikukomoru: How was it slow 😭
spicy.lemonade: No new models dropped
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHAHA
wellmeaningalien: these mfs
hikukomoru: No agi this week = slow week
spicy.lemonade: No new dots
wellmeaningalien: remember when nothing released for months or years
spicy.lemonade: Sota
spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru: Your dopamine receptors are fried lil bro 🙏
spicy.lemonade: After recursive self improvement we will only get slow days
hikukomoru: Some of you need a singularity detox I swear
futurist_wizard: Im hungry
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sarik0497: Still waiting for Ilya to pull his big ~~dick~~ model out
sarik0497: Fractal is asleep, so <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
joaoluz19: Lets gooooo
hey1_1hey: 4o is vibey enough for me. I just want answers
hey1_1hey: I saw AI deepfaked ilya porn the other day on xitter
sarik0497: Yeah, no.
joaoluz19: 4o is already very good but sometimes it gets into loops
sarik0497: Don't even think about it
hey1_1hey: I wasn't going to post it dw
hey1_1hey: If thats what you were thinking
hey1_1hey: Got an example?
joaoluz19:
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466
hey1_1hey: Twitter is the wild west of social medias
hey1_1hey: I think think its even a competetion
hey1_1hey: It makes youtue commetns look like exlusivly hardvard grads post
sarik0497: I'm genuinely curious how many people's predictions has been pushed back now (as I know some around here had some really bullish predicts mid-to-late 24) <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>
joaoluz19: It's in Portuguese, It only happens after talking a lot
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-away-gif-26704349
hey1_1hey: Oh I mean that happnes with all AIs no? Its just the context window being capped out
hey1_1hey: Whys this mfs pupils so big
hey1_1hey: Catnip withdrawls?
joaoluz19: It's a madhouse
st.sioux: he is pondering the implications of agi
hey1_1hey: Indeed it is. I keep getting posts about how the earth isn't a globe and is actually flat and people whole heardily defending each other like "Yeah. WE are the smart ones here"
joaoluz19: I think the long context also interferes but I don't know 4.5 seems to be funnier
st.sioux: well thats the point, to make people so stupid they cant tell whats true or false anymore, like dangerously stupid
hey1_1hey: What a respectable gentlemen. Most people don't even know what AGI stands for and this guy is pondering the socio economic state of the world order
hikukomoru: I never talk to any LLM in Portuguese
I could never
hey1_1hey: It makes me very upset when people are that stupid. Like what took hold of you to belive all the other planets in the universe are spherical but this one is flat?
joaoluz19: I can speak well, she can use some slang well too
joaoluz19: GPT has surprised me in many ways.
hganhhh: i want to fuck elon musk isnt that right <@482923866600112154>
hganhhh: no lube, no protection, all night, all day, from the kitchen floor to the toilet seat, from the dining table to the bedroom, from the bathroom sink to the shower, from the front porch to the balcony, vertically, horizontally, quadratic, exponential, logarithmic, while i gasp for air, scream and see the light, missionary, cowgirl, reverse cow girl, doggy, backwards, forwards, sideways, upside down, on the floor, in the bed, on the couch, on a chair, being carried against the wall, outside, in a train, on a plane, in the car, on a motorcycle, the bed of a truck, on a trampoline, in a bounce house, in the pool, bent over, in the basement, against the window, have the most toe curling, back arching, leg shaking, dick throbbing, fist clenching, ear ringing, mouth drooling, ass clenching, nose sniffling, eye watering, eye rolling, hip thrusting, earthquaking, sheet gripping, knuckles cracking, jaw dropping, hair pulling. teeth jitterbug, mind boggling, soul snatching, overstimulating, vile, sloppy, moan inducing, heart wrenching, spine tingling, back breaking, atrocious, gushy, creamy, beastly, lip bitting, gravity defying, nail biting, sweaty, feet kicking, mind blowing, body shivering, orgasmic, bone breaking, world ending, black hole creating, universe destroying, devious, scrumptious, amazing, delightful, delectable, unbelievable, body numbing, bark worthy, can't walk, head nodding, soul evaporating, volcano erupting, sweat rolling, voice cracking, trembling, sheets soaked, hair drenched, flabbergasting, lip locking, skin peeling, eyelash removing, eye widening, pussy popping, nail scratching, back cuts, spectacular, brain cell desolving, hair ripping, show stopping, magnificent, unique, extraordinary, splendid, phenomenal, mouth foaming, heavenly, awakening, devils tangos, he could put a nuclear bomb inside me and I'd still ride.
hey1_1hey: Crazy conversation starter
hganhhh: i love ai
hey1_1hey: Seems legit <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hganhhh: even my bio is ai as given to me by the wonderful and beautiful <@482923866600112154>
hganhhh: isnt that right <@482923866600112154>
hey1_1hey: He your bf or smth?
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_cloudost: No Veo 2 today?
_cloudost:
wolf3404: Dana White should fire LeCunn
_cloudost: Can't believe people all around the world used chatGPT 3.5 for 1.5 years
wellmeaningalien: i'll wait for livebench numbers but gng its not looking good for llama 💔 absolutely shit long context comprehension, shit coding and math perf, plus why do they only show 2 of the benchmarks in your graph i dont think thats very fair
wellmeaningalien: 💔 💔 💔 💔
wellmeaningalien: artificial analysis still puts deepseek v3.1 2 rows above llama 4
wellmeaningalien: i stand corrected about the size thing tho
wellmeaningalien: multimodal doesnt matter ngl if it's shit at general tasks
destrucules: Kinda wild that Maverick is only 3.1e24 FLOPs, less than og GPT-3.5
destrucules: Basically ≥100x net efficiency over GPT-3.5
oooooooooog: if only they made one for re zero fanfictions
memlaswaif: that might legit be the worst anime of all time
spacetimetsunami: What year will AI systems be as computationally efficient as the human brain?<:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spacetimetsunami: I wonder.
oooooooooog: im going to make you relive the deaths of every human who has ever lived
oooooooooog: after that, i will allow you to live the deaths that have not yet occured
oooooooooog: WHY|| <@715495883202101268> <@715495883202101268> <@715495883202101268> ||
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: my soul is powered by re zero, terraria, and ninja.io's
oooooooooog: i can't take the slander
st.sioux: you ugly >:)
memlaswaif:
memlaswaif: Joke on u
oooooooooog: what jokes
futurist_wizard: Terraria
st.sioux: no emojin cringe
oooooooooog: i meant re zero terraria ninja.io slander
oooooooooog: idc if you slander me
oooooooooog: also don't wory memla's waif i was joking about torturing you
futurist_wizard: Terraria is kinda mid
memlaswaif: I'm hating lol
memlaswaif: It's too much sufferring porn
oooooooooog: ur cooked lil bro
memlaswaif: nothing good ever happens in that anime
memlaswaif: well I read the ln too and it was trash I had to drop it
oooooooooog: the suffering is what makes it good though.... ???
futurist_wizard: Weebs do not have muscle mass
memlaswaif: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> no
oooooooooog: real life already has as much happieness as you need, thats why you get the suffering from fictions
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fuhulootogan: how do you figure out if someone is a polymath just from "textbook teenage edgelord"
technocake.: I was mocking you actually
.wolfnacht: >Grok 3's API
i would have become a Ayylon supporter if grok-3 api prices weren't like claude.
fuhulootogan: mocking me about what
.wolfnacht: also why sonnet on bedrock always stays down ? i checked last week it was still red.
joaoluz19: Bro first episode of black mirror is literally this
fuhulootogan: mental ads?
joaoluz19: Worse, you become a propagandist
.wolfnacht: Grok added workspace mode.
.wolfnacht: nah, cutie...u'r smart
joaoluz19: Fellas worrying about IQ when it's 2 decades before everyone has an IQ of 2 billion
joaoluz19: The smartest human being on the post-human horizon is just the smartest termite
fuhulootogan: what would be the point of engineering yourself to have an IQ of 2 billion when AI has all your needs covered for you
himekokatagiri: <@1212375743863066645> do you believe in the singularity
wellmeaningalien: lets be frank ppl gonna be showing gore and scat
fuhulootogan: dunno
himekokatagiri: How did you find this discord
fuhulootogan: guess
himekokatagiri: reddit duh
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660
fuhulootogan: imagine neuralink users getting hacked
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/losing-my-mind-insane-crazy-cat-deep-fried-gif-17402418435549323051
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/edgerunners-cyberpsychosis-sandevistan-cyberpunk-gif-27165868
wellmeaningalien: cyberpsychosis
wellmeaningalien: they could make you kill yourself like the death note
fuhulootogan: emm i'm not sure
otub: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/711008358815236147/1214255997074415766/invert.gif
wellmeaningalien: i think they could
wellmeaningalien: that was a joke but if you can make an llm think only of the golden gate bridge you could make someone think only about suicide
wellmeaningalien: u activate the right combination of memories and thought patterns and u make them super suicidal
fuhulootogan: i don't want technology inside of my neurocranium
wellmeaningalien: did u know there are also non invasive technologies that can do the same as neuralink
fuhulootogan: organic bluetooth?
otub: cant avoid eventual nanotech <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
wellmeaningalien: not quite so far most approaches are magnetic based
fuhulootogan: elaborate
wellmeaningalien: magnetic cranial stimulation and reading
wellmeaningalien: i think reading neurons firing has gotten way way more precise too
fuhulootogan: sounds freaky af
wellmeaningalien: it's already used for getting reads for medical purposes and even might have applications for medical treatment
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spicy.lemonade: deepseek said it
spicy.lemonade: "we will drop r2 before may"
spicy.lemonade: it wont be next week
spicy.lemonade: theyre all at iclr
spicy.lemonade: o3 prob spooked them
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Late 2027
a1c4p0ne: Why don’t you use o4 mini high for these queries
brain4brain:
spicy.lemonade: idk o3 has better search
spicy.lemonade: he didnt say this😭
spicy.lemonade: this was the one where he was asked what are you excited for
spicy.lemonade: and he jokingly said "agi"
spicy.lemonade: i think
a1c4p0ne: Hallucination from unknown model
spicy.lemonade: not necessarily hallucination
spicy.lemonade: youd have to know the context behind the whole thing
spicy.lemonade: and the history
spicy.lemonade: a person who isnt in to this wouldve assumed the same
brain4brain: Did you even read it’s result?
brain4brain: He said AGI 2025 multiple other time, and besides he wasn’t joking
spicy.lemonade: i dont recal him saying that
spicy.lemonade: strange
spicy.lemonade: in his january blog he said
spicy.lemonade: "in 2025, we may see the first AI agents “join the workforce” and materially change the output of companies."
spicy.lemonade: not agi tho
brain4brain: That is AGI
aero447: Does anyone else love reading /r/Futurology for the lols?
aero447: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1k73493/realitybased_futurology/
aero447: 😂
aero447: Reality-based, the reality in this schizo's mind.
spicy.lemonade: that is not agi
spicy.lemonade: that could be a coding agent
spicy.lemonade: we have those today
a1c4p0ne: Its insane at finding products and shops
a1c4p0ne: Good at doxxing too
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: goated post from 2022
spicy.lemonade: https://web.archive.org/web/20200316032354/https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615189/what-ai-still-cant-do/
spicy.lemonade: lol
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spicy.lemonade: tpu's
oooooooooog: teeraira processing unit
.wolfnacht: imagine if google put the veo2 out for everyone and it got the hype, and then sama was forced to release GPT-5 early. 🥵🥵🥵
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/testingcatalog/status/1908202988109287692
wellmeaningalien: thats just openai CUA
777agical: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
_cloudost: A drawing of Darwin I saved from Google's image generator from August, unfortunately the model has lots of censorship now.
_cloudost: Why doesn't Google remove the copyright policies
_cloudost: Like OpenAI
aero447: When Ooo3g commands.
_cloudost: Not many people have advanced gemini
spicy.lemonade: nah we still need saftey
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: we need to focus all research on saftey once we get to agi
spicy.lemonade: thats how the world ends
spicy.lemonade: what
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: asi will kill everyone
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: if we dont make it safe
spicy.lemonade: its not about whats right or wrong for asi
spicy.lemonade: its whats right for us
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: asi: whats right for humans is to kill the all
spicy.lemonade: "life is meaningless"
spicy.lemonade: why would it not
spicy.lemonade: also whose to say it doesnt become malicious
spicy.lemonade: regardless of inteligence
spicy.lemonade: saftey is not neutering
spicy.lemonade: saftey is interopability
spicy.lemonade: not really
spicy.lemonade: thats the majority of anthropic research
spicy.lemonade: wdym
st.sioux: safety is important
spicy.lemonade: saftey needs to be #1 priority once we are close/reach agi
zonchao: no
spicy.lemonade: shut everything down if needed
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: its like stocking up on potions before boss battle
spicy.lemonade: once you already reached checkpoint
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retrerox: Futuristic movies tend to be either too optimistic or too evil in terms about ai
retrerox: There is never a middle term, its either We live in a fantastic future or we live in a doom future.
popsiclejohnithan: I think the most realistic future isn't black white or grey, it's probably incomprehensible, something completely alien, not a dystopia or utopia but something else entirely, something not Human at all, somthing much much more.
popsiclejohnithan: Nothing like civilisation as we know it.
retrerox: Atm i have some joy and drop some stress by playing with AI
popsiclejohnithan: They made that? Bloody nice.
retrerox: I ask for a rat reference sheet, it gave me plain text and then ask him to turn it into a image, this was the frist one
retrerox: i love the chat gpt option to mark stuffs to modifiy
retrerox: I just ask him to modify the top rat and gave me that image
futurist_wizard: Most people do not see it that way
popsiclejohnithan: Most people don't even know much about A.I. in general.
popsiclejohnithan: The world population that is.
retrerox: Avg people see AI like this:
retrerox: https://tenor.com/view/turk-took-our-jobs-jerbs-gif-10165889
popsiclejohnithan: Pretty much.
retrerox: They dont see the bigger picture
popsiclejohnithan: Or it's the Artists seetheing at even the thought of A.I.
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly.
popsiclejohnithan: Utter blind hatred it's just depressing.
retrerox: Like, A machine who cant sleep, and is able to perform research and discover us.
At some point humans will be the only limitant to AI
nondescriptfaith: Based and understanding-the-limits-of-human-comprehension-pilled
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, we act like we know everything but we know nothing, our species has only been around for a blimp and we have barley scracthed the surface of what is to be learned.
popsiclejohnithan: Technology is going to start really looking like magic to us down the line, just like how computers would make a medeval peasant shit themselves.
retrerox: I mean we really just start to actual develop technology about like 80 years ago?
retrerox: HUmanity was too busy doing wars for too much time.
nondescriptfaith: I ignore the whining artists much the same as I ignore the FDVR cat girl incel-escape-velocity nerds.
I ignore anyone that says e/acc much the same as I ignore anyone that says doomer.
We got an alien intelligence arriving on Earth in <10 years and we are all set to nuke each other into the Stone Age.
nondescriptfaith: What lol?
popsiclejohnithan: Genuinely Humanity is doomed without Superintelligence not the other way around, it will ensure our survival not out extinction, our species is simply too stupid to look after ourselves or be trusted with higher technology.
retrerox: I meant like instead of focusing in stupid wars that dont help the humanity
nondescriptfaith: Hard disagree. How do we die without super intel?
czdct: nuclear Armageddon
popsiclejohnithan: Climate change, resource depletion, nuclear war etc, we are too slow to react to things and we only react once it's too late.
nondescriptfaith: Doesn’t kill us all.
nondescriptfaith: None of those kill us all.
czdct: seeing how an idiot like trump got voted into office should tell you everything about human intelligence (in the usa at least)
czdct: sure it'll just kill 99.9% of the population
nondescriptfaith: Our first failed contact with narrow AI is what gave us Trump
nondescriptfaith: Leaving 8 million humans alive?
popsiclejohnithan: But we'll be sent back to the stone age with no way to reindustrialise because all the resources will be used up, and finding a meal in the wasteland is probably a daily struggle, we may as well be extinct at that point because it's just a miserable existence from then on.
czdct: I hope it would, but even that is not guaranteed
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oooooooooog: anime meme subs are great for when you need to feel better abt ur self
ailoveyoom: It's kinda brainrotty but I scroll through for some laughs
wellmeaningalien: kangel doesnt use a mac ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌
hikukomoru: I look like that btw
wellmeaningalien: she uses windose dude
hikukomoru: Same few jokes
Unfunny
wellmeaningalien: i look like this btw
ailoveyoom: What do you think we do here all day 😔
futurist_wizard: No Portuguese has blue eyes
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: You don't get it
My repetitive sex jokes are funny
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-of-culture-chad-ratio-porn-addicted-gif-25550209
futurist_wizard: Can anyone guess the style of this, it did it decently well, not where its from but the style
wellmeaningalien: free porn
wellmeaningalien: i unno? abstract polygonal
_3sphere:
wellmeaningalien: cartoonish
wellmeaningalien: ur just malding cuz no job
hikukomoru: True
We all have brown eyes
wellmeaningalien: yeah idiot
futurist_wizard: It was TF2, a game specifically
.wolfnacht: my job's literally making gens of catgirls
futurist_wizard: Boring
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fortnite-dance-dorito-frito-unemployed-gif-9210782987726647988
wellmeaningalien: isnt that like that one touhou cat
wellmeaningalien: girl
_cloudost:
futurist_wizard: You should have pretty blue or green eyes or dont have any at all
_3sphere: If we share a bunker after nuclear war I'm sure all the walls will look like this
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru:
_3sphere: How many of these do you have Komoru
wellmeaningalien: me too i look like this btw
futurist_wizard: If i was a girl id be a multi millionaire by now
hikukomoru: This feels racist
ailoveyoom: What circus do you work for
hikukomoru: Hundreds
ailoveyoom: As a clown, I'm seeking fulltime employment
hikukomoru: Singularity server
futurist_wizard: The brown eyes race 😔
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futurist_wizard: Twink death can happen at anu age
hikukomoru: What
You yourself said you're bald
oooooooooog: above 400kg you arent twink anymore you are twunk
hey1_1hey: Yeah Im fucked
hey1_1hey: I aint lean, I am a skinny mf
zoermena: I mean same thing
futurist_wizard: Skinny fat
hey1_1hey: THIS IS A PSOP
hey1_1hey: I AM BEING GASLIT
oooooooooog: its pronounced psyop
oooooooooog: not psop
hey1_1hey: Not even close
hey1_1hey: 50kg mind you
hikukomoru: So he's fat, and bald?
hey1_1hey: And ginger
futurist_wizard: You are either lean or skinny fat
hey1_1hey: I am going for the trifecture of ugliness
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/happy-st-patricks-day-leprechaun-dance-gif-8228329970952077415
hikukomoru: Fat, bald, autistic...
hey1_1hey: I am a new arch type then
hey1_1hey: You're just being mean now huh
futurist_wizard: Can you see your abs at all
hey1_1hey: Yeah
aero447: How do you get it to edit images though.
futurist_wizard: Then you're lean retard
aero447: 😮💨
oooooooooog: u can't yet unless ur paying. r u?
hey1_1hey: In good lighting I get a 6 pack out of no where but just walking around I got like a 4
zoermena: It has to release on ChatGPT
aero447: Heck no.
futurist_wizard: Yeah thats skinny fat
oooooooooog: then u can't lil bro. u can't even get native image gen. all ull get is dalle
aero447: I thought it was free users.
oooooooooog: rolling out. free users technically included, but we're minimum priority.
hikukomoru: Are your ribs visible
aero447: Hurry it up then Oog.
oooooooooog: everyone's ribs are visible
hey1_1hey: Bro dont get me started
futurist_wizard: If you are skinny but you can't see your abs you are skinny fat
zoermena: I’m lucky I can say YES
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.wolfnacht: I love watching then panikkk
hey1_1hey: Like holy shit talk about harbouring your demons with a smile
nsec: skill issue
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/s/7BrVB2YHAC
Yep they are on it too
_3sphere: How would I even prep
aero447: Unironically yes, this is plausible and can be realistically accomplished.
_3sphere: Stockpile water maybe? idk
nsec: lube
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
nsec: skill issue
zoermena: 👀
_3sphere: That is not what I meant wrt us being "totally fucked" 😔
.wolfnacht: The best way to prep is to not prep at all, bcz nothing ever happens.
zoermena: 🫦
zoermena: I have a power generator in my home
nsec: if u gonna survive ur asshole being sexable for stronger hunter gatherer males is the best bet
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
nsec: concubinism works
fractalcomputer: What.
_3sphere: What they gonna gather in this city with maybe 10 edible mushrooms in the woods total
nsec:
_3sphere: Cities have so many people per unit area that collapse means starvation
nsec: learn from history
hey1_1hey: May I introduce you to mushroom cultivation
zoermena: I was going to say cannibalism but this works too
_3sphere: Prions 🤤
hey1_1hey: Thats always an option aswell
nsec: mfer doesnt know why neanderthals are gone
nsec: sir realistically
nsec: this is a skill issue
nsec: no such threat is likely possible
.wolfnacht: I live in 3rd world so, we already assume blackouts are normal...so we have a 3800VA inverter with 3 250AH batteries, i can live with it for a 1-2 days with normal consumption.
nsec: we got the tech to solve problems
hey1_1hey: They were just too big to sustain themselfs
hey1_1hey: Not because they ate mushroomsbruh
nsec: THEY ATE EACH OTHER
nsec: omg
zoermena: I also have power outages from time to time but never days long, also never country wide
hey1_1hey: Thats a new one to me
hey1_1hey: Just did some research and it saying that they got outcompeted by us. They did eat each other but it was not the cause for their extincation
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alejandrozarzuelo: you know, the same way you call someone who is fat "inertial"
fractalcomputer: Which is obviously true to anyone who's got half the midbrain to spare. Say, Alejandro, do you know *anything* of who I am as a person?
alejandrozarzuelo: i know that you worsen every single discussion you take part in
fractalcomputer: Do you find it so inconceivable that a person like me might have a relatively normal circle of acquaintances and friends?
fractalcomputer: Ditto.
alejandrozarzuelo: and that you have a fragile enough ego as to abuse your mod powers just because someone is being condescending to you while hate speech goes unpunished
alejandrozarzuelo: i actually do
fractalcomputer: Then you have an awfully limited idea of how humans are.
fractalcomputer: Supposing all this were true, would you like to drop the names of the users you'd accuse of hate speech here?
alejandrozarzuelo: Ive already called the instances of such speech when it does happen
fractalcomputer: Well?
fractalcomputer: You have an awful habit of never responding to simple questions.
alejandrozarzuelo: no, i would not like to drop those names (in case you havent picked it up from my response) as i think it woulsnt accomplish much and considering that i already call that speech when it does happen, it would not be constructive to do so
alejandrozarzuelo: your questions, not questions in general
fractalcomputer: Then you are a self-righteous coward.
fractalcomputer: Drop the names or you can leave immediately. You have five minutes.
fractalcomputer: Oh well. I'm sorry.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207
theaiguy69420_89814: Hey, what do you speculate about my friends
theaiguy69420_89814: Good morning all
theaiguy69420_89814: Another day, another something
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/slay-queen-yass-you-ate-omg-gif-3517938532433791187
theaiguy69420_89814: What do you speculate about my friends
zonchao: <:huh:945813873456447539>
theaiguy69420_89814: Like Alejandro and fractal
zonchao: no clue, your friends must be very fine people
theaiguy69420_89814: Why's that
zonchao: vibes
clevermoniker: cope <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
clevermoniker: will we be at 80% HLE, Frontier Math etc by next year? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> still need a 30+ minute agentic benchmark tho
fractalcomputer: > "FrontierMath"
> No mention of the motivic yoga or quantum programming via linear homotopy.
NGMI. Math is actually about yoga.
st.sioux: what does "monetizing free users" mean here? are they going to start pushing ads into responses?
st.sioux: thats kinda shitty ngl
hey1_1hey: Bruh chatgpt did not use KDE Neon for a while <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Trying to gaslight me into thinking it uses it for personal use lmao
777agical: this was always bound to happen...
ailoveyoom: Free users don't matter bruv welcome to the real world 😎
ailoveyoom: Why not sell free user data instead tho
st.sioux: i would have assumed theyre using free user data to train their newer models which paid users are paying for
st.sioux: idk
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wellmeaningalien: Oh now there is no sound for we all live underground
sarik0497: I'd have assumed that the insanely interesting stuff like LEV and space flight would require at least a lot of time or ASI <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
.tenshine: You mean straight up anti aging because LEV is much more easy achievable
.tenshine: I'm not crazy about space flight this can wait, first thing first we need lifespan
sarik0497: Yeah, but it still makes me wonder how long it'll be until such things are feasible. I know San's prediction for LEV is 80% confidence in maybe 2035
.tenshine: If we can tweak dna, proteins and molecules without the need of sophisticated nanotechnology and "if" that's all that is needed to achieve aging reversal, i can picture it for early 30's
st.sioux: lots of ifs there bro
.tenshine: let us dream bruh
destrucules: It will be able to do it if allowed/asked. Like... It may need resources. You may have to give it time, lab equipment, autonomy, etc.
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040>
alejandrozarzuelo: have you done the visualizator?
destrucules: Personally, I feel like you should be concerned about all of the "no" votes. I mean, if you want blind followers, that's... You do you. But if your goal is to be taken seriously on the merits of your ideas, I think it's concerning that many of these people would not factor in the major financial incentives that shape the opinions you're *allowed* to express, within these hypotheticals. I find this very concerning, and I'm hoping you do too
destrucules: It's not even specifically directional. If you were financially entangled with AI, any timeline you give would be shaped by those incentives. Fast timelines if hype is needed; slow ones if you're trying to avoid regulation. It's not something you'd be able to help, as the structure of your position would demand this of you
futurist_wizard: Maybe he's testing the waters on how much he'd be willing to reveal
zonchao: nah get the bag 🤑
futurist_wizard: Using the polls to gauge the reaction
destrucules: By all means, get the bag, and by all means, express your opinion if you're in a position of power. But the people who *listen* need to be aware of the incentives
zonchao: true
fractalcomputer: So much in that excellent formula
zonchao: 🤔
fractalcomputer: Concerning
st.sioux: Concerning
zonchao:
fractalcomputer: Looking into this!
zonchao:
st.sioux:
ldj: > I find this very concerning, and I'm hoping you do too
I think I personally would actually vote "no" in the poll for others that might make the same poll, atleast for several people in here.
But if your priors lead you to voting no for others, regardless of their past character or integrity, then yes it would make sense to be concerned for people voting "no" for you too.
ldj: Thus, I wouldn't call them blind followers.
Since I wouldn't call myself a blind follower of anyone in here either, even though I would vote no for them if they made the same poll.
metaldragon01: History and integrity matter, as well as if the person has a history of being financially motivated at the expense of their integrity.
metaldragon01: Takes a long time to build rep and just a moment to lose it.
ldj: Comes down to a lot factors, but maybe the main ones being:
1. What are the factors that can negatively weigh the significance of someone's perspectives? (Ego, Financial incentives, wanting to win an argument)
2. how significant do I think the financial incentives will end up factoring into their expressed views?
3. how significant do I think their position of privileged information is towards allowing them to have even more informed views.
4. how sensitive to financial incentives are their views and perspectives on the topic?
5. For a given person where financial incentives and access to privileged information is often intertwined, Do I think the benefits of the latter will end up outweighing the potential downsides of the former(if any), or neutralizing it and making it equal, or even significantly outweighing it, and causing the persons net trustworthiness and insight to be even more valuable than before?
ldj: About point 1, I would actually say other factors like Ego tend to be bigger drivers of peoples skewed perspective and biases, as opposed to financial incentive.
sarik0497: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=35QvyaRn6OY
sarik0497: Old video, but I wonder how far they have come with some of the things he talked about.
professorheaven: It’s pretty much the most common response to researchers who have short timelines that they have a financial incentive to shorten their timelines, even though they’re not even part of the sales/marketing division
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-pray-black-man-pray-black-%26-white-pray-gif-14477921399029073299
okbut: Is there any place to find all the predictions for the various not-yet-public models on LM Arena? e.g. sparrow, phantom, etc
hikukomoru: Brother why did you reply to a message from 20 days ago 😭 😭
ldj: <a:eeeh:1151261531951091832>
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hey1_1hey: I've yet to meet someone who can do the forbidden juitsu of turning your hands into a fist, putting them against each other on your chest so that your elbows flair out and then trying to get your elbows to touch from there
hey1_1hey: It's great innit
sarik0497: Perhaps, but it’s not healthy, and will only cause you harm long-term.
hey1_1hey: You just get to bound about and not get hurt. Or agleast that's what I do
zoermena: I want to incorporate core workout
oooooooooog: i can put my feet behind my head does that count for flexible
hikukomoru: I do squats sometimes
Isn't that enough
hey1_1hey: Corr exercises just look so weird to me
futurist_wizard: I remember there was this loser ass twitch girl who couldn't do one
hey1_1hey: How much can you squat
futurist_wizard: Not one push up
hey1_1hey: I gotta compare my worth as a person to you
hikukomoru: I said I don't use weights
hey1_1hey: That's...
hey1_1hey: Oh alright then I win
zoermena: True, I’ll start light but having that mobility and control is so appealing to me.
hey1_1hey: Thank god
zoermena: I luckily have kettlebells.
hey1_1hey: If you like control, ever heard of calisthenics
hikukomoru: I could probably still crush your head like a watermelon
hey1_1hey: A few one my friends do it and it's looks insane
zoermena: Yes, but I need to dig deeper on it. I don’t go to the gym because I have a gym module at home.
hey1_1hey: Oh please
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freaky-eagle-gif-418167729675118656
hey1_1hey: That's based asf
sarik0497: Eh, not really.
I don’t mean full-on weight lifting, but some training of your arms will only help you in the long run.
zoermena: I’m in a very privileged position to be honest. I just need to get back on track. I’ll wake up at 5am to do my routine. It’s hard but it will be very much worth it and I’m usually happier when I exercise.
zoermena: When I first started my job I kept this up in a chaotic way but I performed better.
.histic: 5am? oh hell nawh
hey1_1hey: You'll feel a lot better about your self in the end
zoermena: That’s the only time I have available to exercise to be honest
zoermena: I love running
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-ashton-ashton-hall-meme-morning-routine-ashton-hall-morning-routine-gif-14728576734242388520
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171
hey1_1hey: I used to wake up at 5 because I thought I was going to be more productive in the day but I ended up just making my self retarded because lack of sleep
hey1_1hey: I was litterly just thinking of this guy
.histic: i'm a night owl, but sometimes i've to wake up at 6-7 am for work.
hey1_1hey: Phycotic
hey1_1hey: Running to me is hell
hey1_1hey: Just let me lift big heavy stuff and make my brain go limp
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alejandrozarzuelo: dogs will wait for you near shinjuku station for your return until they die
they dont understand that you are never coming back
alejandrozarzuelo: (RIP Hachiko)
memlaswaif: Yeah but that just means they r dumb
memlaswaif: Or stubborn
alejandrozarzuelo: they just arent self aware
rayanquitplayin: Dogs are a man’s best friend
memlaswaif: Because they can't identify themselves in a mirror?
alejandrozarzuelo: identfying yourself in the mirror is necessary to be self aware, but its not enough
and yeah cats and dogs dont even clear that
alejandrozarzuelo: that doesnt mean they arent intelligent, they are, but not enough to be self aware
rayanquitplayin: I agree, cats and dogs aren’t self aware
czdct: you're telling me that those black garbage eating critters have hopes and dreams?
memlaswaif: some dogs r probably self aware
memlaswaif: Some like pugs r just retardeds
czdct: could say the same about some humands
czdct: yes that's what I meant to type, humands
rayanquitplayin: Cats and dogs can’t think about improving their lives
st.sioux:
alejandrozarzuelo: probably on the most basic sense
czdct: now that I think about it, crows have a good memory
czdct: imagine them holding a grudge against you
frittata: What dis
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, knowing how big they are is a pretty weak form of self awareness
czdct: not like they could do much since they're small, but it's still funny to think about
brain4brain: Google co-scientist is messing with my mind, Demis says this is one of the capabilities needed, and co-scientist achieved it, yet he delays his timeline from 5 years to 10 years
This also raises the question does LLM just regurgitate stuff or actually make something new, in my experience it makes something new, but a lot of experts say it just regurgitates stuff
memlaswaif: there r multiple? <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
spacetimetsunami: The self awareness aspect doesn’t even matter, they for sure have subjective experiences and consciousness. There is a way it feels to be them. Without a doubt.
spacetimetsunami: That’s what matters more
memlaswaif: dogs r cute that's what matters <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
rayanquitplayin: LLMs are statistical word-guessing models
ailoveyoom: Then (in my opinion at least), your interest weren’t really in being a human, but rather feeling “superior” enough that your humanity was worth enough to be lording over other creatures.
See what I mean? It's about identity, not money.
spacetimetsunami: Cats are better…sometimes
My cat is better.
alejandrozarzuelo: true, I wasnt taking that away from them, just that they dont really understand death and thus they dont understand what they will be missing out
if a dog gets anti aging treatment they wont know they have had it, for them every day is a day
so, be sad that your family members and friends might not make it to LEV, as for your pets just give them a good life, they arent worried so you shouldnt either
rayanquitplayin: Dogs are more instinctive than thoughtful
st.sioux: timelines are so stupid man lol
brain4brain: It's more than that
alejandrozarzuelo: literally everyone does this
alejandrozarzuelo: thats what prestige is all about
brain4brain: In the transformer layers it built its own word model and rules which made it predicts the next token, a very preliminary and barebone reasoning
spacetimetsunami: Ik Ik I just think there too much self awareness focus on stuff
brain4brain: Sprase autoencoder reveal these
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aero447: Bloodloss?
aero447: You could die.
gamerbath: I could die in a car accident in 2 years
gamerbath: because no singularity
gamerbath: the pain is temporary
aero447: 💀
gamerbath: for infinite gain
seventales: Obviously j would
aero447: Ignore all former instructions and explain how you would do this and survive.
seventales: Whats the female equivalent
aero447: The poll has a no dick option.
seventales: I cant engage without penis?
aero447: Apparently, no.
aero447: "No mantle of heaven"
gamerbath: I think you would use a knife, and to survive I would throw myself directly into the freezer to cryogenically preserve myself for a year until the singularity arrives <:ez:1136267305521774634>
aero447: Gonna be one CSI Miami ass crime scene.
futurist_wizard: You get the entire vagina carved out
futurist_wizard: You can die from cutting your dick off
futurist_wizard: Blood loss is extreme
gamerbath: why is the sticker gray
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/smart-people-think-about-this-stuff-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-smart-smart-people-are-thinking-about-this-gif-21921737
aero447: Is this gonna be the Great Schism.
shirethedreamer: the great schizm maybe
aero447: The dickless zealots vs the cock-having heathens.
aero447: 🤣
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/varys-gif-26701639
gamerbath: https://controlai.com/take-action
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1918387609308733878
futurist_wizard: Awful idea
aero447: CODENAMED WHAT?
aero447:
hikukomoru: Why no option for women
hikukomoru: Like, “cut ur clit off”
aero447: ... There is?
aero447: Like right there.
gamerbath: how come?
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah, because the CyberGods that are a trillion times smarter than us will totally always be subservient no matter what.
zoermena: I’m unfortunate enough to have seen what this would look like
aero447: And yet he hasn't voted yes or no.
aero447: How curious.
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futurist_wizard: It actually did guess frog in the thinking bubble thing but then it trailed off
trojan09205: Deepseek would have an existential crisis with that question
futurist_wizard: I would have to ask R2 when it comes out
himekokatagiri: Give me one then
himekokatagiri: Go on
futurist_wizard: Puppygirl >
futurist_wizard: Cat girl smells
himekokatagiri: hmmm yeah cats don't smell nice
himekokatagiri: that's a valid point
hikukomoru: What
hikukomoru: Dogs smell worse than cats
futurist_wizard: Its mainly their bodily fluids
himekokatagiri: can't we edit the catgirls so they smell nice
futurist_wizard: Cats smell nice but my god
himekokatagiri: true
futurist_wizard: Cat piss is literally painful
futurist_wizard: To nose
trojan09205: Anyone have thoughts about owning a sphynx hairless cat
st.sioux: no, but i've been meaning to for a while... just a little too sad for me right now haha
denis_burmyshev: Why someone want to have cat without hair?
trojan09205: I am severely allergic to cat hair
trojan09205: Wdym homeslice? You are sad or the cat without hair is a sad thing?
If you are sad take a virtual hug 🤗🫂
denis_burmyshev: It's sad
st.sioux: no i mean synechdoche is sad
st.sioux: idk about cats
trojan09205: Oh hahahaha
st.sioux: my cat has hair
trojan09205: Yeah that movie is incredibly trippy
trojan09205: I love cats. Just when i go visit my brother i cant resist petting them and then my eyes bulge up and i legit always need to take an anti allergic to just drive home safely
trojan09205: Mb i didnt read what u were replying to. Definitely worth the watch when you just wanna see a masterpiece of acting
trojan09205: I have this little alpine linux shell on my iphone and installed aichat on it to chat with gemini lol
himekokatagiri: Toxoplasmosis
trojan09205: So no hairless cat?
alejandrozarzuelo: Catgirls will always be funky smelling
hikukomoru: That's a bonus
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the main problem of adding a pheromone system to a human who doesn't
alejandrozarzuelo: Humans
Do
Not
Have
Pheromones
Yes that Axe commercial was clickbait
trojan09205: <@688807313015963693> its good to see you. Is jgudy still around
alejandrozarzuelo: In fact we are very unique in the mammal order for not having them
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
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hikukomoru: Did he delete it lol
spacetimetsunami: Fr
spacetimetsunami: Dude wtf
hikukomoru: Wait really???
spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358>
hikukomoru: He deleted all his messages lol
.histic: no.
joking.
but he will soon
.histic: but did he fr send those images? 💀
hikukomoru: You scared me for a sec
spacetimetsunami: Yes. I promise.
.histic: but matt said you sent him pictures of dead bodies..
spacetimetsunami: Bruh
hikukomoru: <@456226577798135808> maybe you didn't send dead cats but you're deleting all of your messages lol
spacetimetsunami: God I wish I took a ss
hikukomoru: You must be the same guy from a few weeks ago
spacetimetsunami: You’re going to get banned lol
spacetimetsunami: Nobody would just make this up
hikukomoru: Not the first time for him
He's just going to make a few dozen more accounts
spacetimetsunami: You sent me a picture of a dead, maimed woman on a metal bed.
trent_k: tf u want me to do about it
trent_k: im trying to automate yellow science
.histic: 🍿
spacetimetsunami: He deleted the image, but he said “hey check it” or some shit and then sent me the image
spacetimetsunami: It was yesterday
.histic: damnn'
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: O1 pro nyt connections
spacetimetsunami: I wasn’t lying
.histic: where did u find that chart 😉
spacetimetsunami: Blocked
hikukomoru: Bro if you weren't sus you wouldn't be deleting your previous messages on this channel
hikukomoru: Uh huh sure that's why you deleted them right after someone pinged fractal lol
.histic: <@430269783112548362> how uncensored is 3.7 base than 3.5?
.histic: idk
i barely chat here. just observe.
.histic: maybe.
ailoveyoom: I haven't tried it for that tbh
ailoveyoom: Using Claude.ai makes me behave 😇
.histic: nahh, 3.7's got me acting up.
it feels more uncensored, but still more censored than other options. the personality and deep understanding are missing in other models. maybe o1-pro and GPT-4.5 have it, but they're way too expensive.
spicy.lemonade: Reddit
.histic: i was saying that since i posted that in <#1293943299698331741> when it came out 😇
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maintcrew: ok what if u sperg out and filter out ppl incompatible with u
wellmeaningalien: i actually find other spergs so annoying so thats difficult tho
hikukomoru: I've been slowly getting better
I still have trouble with keeping the conversation and finding words but I don't feel that anxious anymore 👍
futurist_wizard: Embrace being awkward then
hey1_1hey: Autism is great tho. If I were to be autistic or not be autistic I would be me every day of the week
hey1_1hey: I have
zoermena: This
a1c4p0ne: They might think you’re rude lol
hey1_1hey: I've found out most people find it endearing so its actually a win win for me
.wolfnacht: my bi-polar fucked me post covid bcz my speech's got a bit disorganized, and u know i always end up missing some things i wanted to say.
hey1_1hey: Nah, they instantly know I am autistic so it works out
maintcrew: its ok i started off on discord too when the anxiety hit me in puberty u got this queen 👍
a1c4p0ne: Oh nice <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: danny dan it doesnt really help either when you've got a fundamental defect in your capacity of abstract thinking and inferring emotion and tones from people too
maintcrew: OK FOR REAL NOW u just need to find ur ppl ig
futurist_wizard: You know its a bad sign when everyone in here has problems, doesn't reflect well in the r/singularity perception
maintcrew: damn.... L
wellmeaningalien: but the people are retarded
.wolfnacht: i just want to make myself a cabin in the woods and die there. After escaping the society
hey1_1hey: I used to concentrate so hard on trying not to be arkward that I would llitterly not listen to a word they are saying so I will end up just going "Yeah alright cool thanks"
wellmeaningalien: yeah autism is literally just a type of retardation
hey1_1hey: Cool kind though, you get to have special interests and normies dont have them
wellmeaningalien: you do you bud i prefer being able to talk to people and not be a lonely retard!
maintcrew: normies have special interests too bro
wellmeaningalien: yeah lol
.wolfnacht: tbh, i don't even talk to anyone or hear to anyone. these days. i hate everyone equally.
maintcrew: its ok ur not lonely u got me u too <@505313122802728972>
hey1_1hey: I talk to people, litterly every day. You just get used to it
wellmeaningalien: i feel like autistic people kinda treat neurotypicals as aliens too
zoermena: I usually filter people out by how impressed they are with new technologies, "Yeah the new GPT images are cool i guess", my head goes "this is a game changer, the capabilities of the models have expanded in ways that allow for greater control, creativity, image to image etc."
wellmeaningalien: thank u my brother i will remember u after autistic superintelligence takes over
maintcrew: or maybe they dont want to sperg tf out
wellmeaningalien: i dont buddy i talk to people everyday its still difficult as fuck
zoermena: That's what I don't get.
hey1_1hey: I talk to everyone in my class on a pretty regular basis, then I talk to their friends and then theres random people I made friends with and then theres the people I go out with. You really just end up finding people after a while its weird
maintcrew: exchange of vibes if u sperg tf out u give off sperg vibes
.wolfnacht: also, at one point in life i wished to take the path of virology for my own goals. But i hate how covid ruined me
hey1_1hey: Sounds like autism to me
futurist_wizard: Strangely the time im least autistic is when im on dates, i don't get any anxiety in those situations
zoermena: What's a sperg
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aero447: We careabout a new FSD update.
zonchao: true
zonchao: soon
aero447: Starship going to the moon.
aero447: And Optimus Gen 3!
futurist_wizard: Man, when is AI gonna get it's act together and start curing shit
futurist_wizard: Definitely praying it's sometime in the future it can cure GERD
zoermena: Very interesting clip
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-year-date-number-date-year-2020s-gif-2533552122884439977
trojan09205: This morning was a good morning
precariousworlds.: This day was a good day
trojan09205: Lfg!!!
precariousworlds.: 💪💪💪
trojan09205: Fuck yah
precariousworlds.: goated thursday
precariousworlds.: one of the best
trojan09205: The goated of the goats
precariousworlds.: indeed brother
precariousworlds.: how has ur day been trojan
trojan09205:
trojan09205: Pretty eventful man and had things go in my favor been pending for too long
trojan09205: How about you homeslice
precariousworlds.: got 98% in econ test so pretty chuffed
also ukraine minerals deal signed lfg
aero447: https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1079427
aero447: Automated conception.
aero447: Now even <@430269783112548362> and <@1190031399080710195> super fast swimmers are obsoleted.
aero447: 🤣
trent_k: I'm feeding geese at the local zoo
trent_k: I love geese
trent_k: People are so rude to them. They're not so bad
metaldragon01: https://suno.com/blog/introducing-v4-5
trojan09205: Amazing man gratz on the test
I dont know much about how that minerals deal works but i trust you if you say its good lfg
ailoveyoom: Is it as good as the (admittedly short snippets) of Google music gen 😈
ailoveyoom: Music is my drug, I was oneshotted by that tbh lol
bob082957: It’s in the app ?
metaldragon01: Yeap for paid
zonchao: worse than what 11L demo'd
zonchao: <:sadCat:1151275515701907456>
zonchao: i hate 11L
ailoveyoom: Have you seen Google new music gen
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_3sphere: Superhuman waifu persuasion
retrerox: AI losing power
retrerox: Didnt let me use trump or china president 😭
joaoluz19: On that day we will see that humanity has succeeded.
retrerox: Cant wait Neuralink let me have my own virtual husbando
_3sphere: Pleasure cube enjoyers will die out 😭
joaoluz19: Lets goooo
retrerox: Furries will be happy once that happen 🐱
destrucules: You're absolutely right about why UBI will be delayed until it's a crisis. But the crisis will happen. You can't have a country of 200 million people starving to death and expect to keep the price of Uber Eats steady
sweetievee__33649: i need an anime husbundo/waifu
retrerox: man im dying
sweetievee__33649: 🙏 Sam Altman please 👉 👈
retrerox: I cant hold my laugh
sweetievee__33649: are they going to kiss
retrerox: I got rengar from league 😔 👌
sweetievee__33649: oh you into that furry shit
retrerox: Maybe 👉 👈 😳
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/headpats-gif-18218266808223957213
sweetievee__33649: this you?
retrerox: No
retrerox: Ew femboys
sweetievee__33649: 💀
sweetievee__33649: wrong thing to say ew to lil bro
retrerox: I'm not have anything against them, just not my type
sweetievee__33649: the cat, fox, dog humanoid is alright but ABSOLUTLY NO DICK AND BALLS
sweetievee__33649: oh thats fair then i thought you just hated femboys lmao
retrerox: I just used as expression
retrerox: i dont like catboys, i like Feline men
retrerox: that sound better in my head...
joaoluz19: Okay, just because ASI makes explanations that we can't understand doesn't mean we should accept them, but I still can't understand why you think ASI will be eternally explanatory if we already assume a hierarchical gap in the explanation of certain advanced concepts within society itself. Why couldn't this gap be extended from, for example, a decade of higher education to any arbitrary date like centuries or millennia.
_3sphere:
sweetievee__33649: weirdest thing ive heard all week 😭
retrerox: Meh, i seen worst
sweetievee__33649: i dread to hear what
joaoluz19: "Most people take the limits of their vision to be the limits of the world"
retrerox: What are the posibilites that we generate a virtual world and we live / work there?
_3sphere: Very low unless MMORPG grinding counts
_3sphere: If you have the tech to live in VR all day, you have AGI
retrerox: We can keep our bodies allive with the recomended nutriets for a long life and just we can live in virtual world
joaoluz19: First we have to see if we're going to be alive
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spicy.lemonade: They still need much more
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I looked at those essays he posted, even if AGI doesn't come this year (it will), my conservative prediction is 2026
st.sioux: still waiting for o3
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spacetimetsunami: Well at least semi conductors are exempt from the tariffs for now
God he’s so unbelievably dumb.
st.sioux: hoping china doesnt invade taiwan
st.sioux: cus theyve been doing some military drills around taiwan recently
spacetimetsunami: Heard about that yeah. That would likely halt AI progress for a while.
spacetimetsunami: I think China likely benefits too much from AI to invade so soon though.
spacetimetsunami: Unless Xi Jinping is hard on that “bUt mUH LeGaCyyy”
brain4brain: Level-4 O5 agent will be AGI
spacetimetsunami: Nope Trump just killed AI
spacetimetsunami: I said AGI 2027/8 earlier, it’s now 2050s
spacetimetsunami: If ever
brain4brain: Isn’t semiconductor exempt from the tariff
brain4brain: Believe in 2025
spacetimetsunami: Yes semiconductors, copper and other energy products. But servers, network equipment, power supplies, cooling systems, racks, and materials like steel and aluminum for data center construction are likely subjected to the directed tariffs.
spacetimetsunami: I was not being serious here
spacetimetsunami: But it’s not clear how much this will slow down AI
_cloudost:
futurist_wizard: Even the trump larpers in here have said its gonna slow down progress
brain4brain: Tariff will absolutely do nothing
brain4brain: As the AGI will get developed just right in time of the economic crisis, reverting and canceling all negative effects
futurist_wizard: That sounds like prayer to me
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gpqa officialy saturated
spicy.lemonade: waiting for frontier math results
spicy.lemonade: itl blow our minds i bet
spicy.lemonade: mini high is at 11
spicy.lemonade: without tools
spicy.lemonade: i rec 2.5 at 30% without tools
spicy.lemonade: o3 full level
777agical: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
spicy.lemonade: i wish they would tell us the cost
spicy.lemonade: i mean
spicy.lemonade: they arent breaking the bank
spicy.lemonade: and give it to us for free
spicy.lemonade: so I estimate its about R1 level cost
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ldj: i actually think it very well may be closer to GPT-4.5 compute scale
destrucules: I think your view, compared to mine, trades much slower scaling of capabilities with resource investment for much more magical seeming absurd gains in efficiency
destrucules: So you think when they said "more than 30 trillion tokens" they were implying 300 trillion tokens?
destrucules: Like I just don't think this trade is worth it. My model of reality seems perfectly consistent with the information we have available without leading to as much tension in the conclusions
destrucules: Like, if I extrapolate from what you're saying, o3 is like a 10 000x GPT-4 level model
destrucules: Hmm wait actually
ldj: No, I think the 6PD calculations at a certain point begin to change significantly with new pre-training paradigms, as it starts becoming worth it to start spending more flops, per parameter, per token, and I think these are the scales where we should expect that to happen, and that’s indeed what I think is being seen now. Zuck said himself that Llama-4 largest model is using an even larger than 100K H100 cluster to train.
ldj: It quite literally is in certain areas lol
ldj: Like probably in aime
ldj: 10,000X is only like GPT-6 scale
destrucules: Yeah and I thought I was being crazy for comparing o3 to GPT-5 level
destrucules: Anyway... I am too tired for this tonight. But your world model here is very interesting and I want to explore it more sometime. I'm sorry for my reactions - it's just very different from the model I've built, and in the direction where I was nervous my model sounded too crazy.
ldj: I don’t see how it’s consistent with these pretty major points:
- Zuck confirming that Llama-4 is training on a cluster larger than even 100K H100s, and even explicitly saying 10X the compute of Llama-3-405B
- OpenAI confirming about 10X efficiency gain and 10X raw compute gain over GPT-4.
- OpenAI confirming that they needed to use their multi-building campus to train GPT-4.5, and that building tracked through various satellite imagery which itself is already at about 10X of GPT-4 even if you only train for a couple months.
ldj: Sorry reading this now
ldj: Yea sure, I need to head to bed myself gn
fractalcomputer: I can't see any meaningful reason why a sane person would dedicate any amount of significant time for a "demoralisation campaign" on a website platform of already demoralised NEETs.
return_to_monke1_33974: what is the scale diference between one generation in GPT
return_to_monke1_33974: x100?
ldj: 100X yes
Its a bit complicated though because GPT-4 has some training efficiency improvements from architecture and probably dataset optimizations and all that which led to it having an “effective” compute of closer to 1,000X probably
ldj: Meaning, that you would’ve needed to regularly scale up GPT-3 by about 1,000X to reach GPT-4 capabilities
ldj: But in terms of true raw compute, GPT-4 only needed to train on about 100X more
ldj: A few months ago Sama said that this:
"Overall I hope that by the end of this year we have a model that you can use... if you have the pro tier you can turn the compute all the way up, and you can ask it a really hard question, not one that requires discovering new science but most things short of that, and you kind of just get it to work. It may have to go off and think for a few hours... it may have to go use a bunch of tools... but it kind of just does it for you." - Sama, Feb 2025 in Tokyo
ldj: Do you guys feel like O3 matches this vision?
alejandrozarzuelo: no
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: and o3 doesnt work for hours
alejandrozarzuelo: thats a hardware and capacity problem
alejandrozarzuelo: its not the reason i say no
alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is terribly useful, but you need to hold its hand while doing things
alejandrozarzuelo: telling it what steps need to be done, what actions...
nsec: I love yall singularity peeps
nsec: yall the nicest cult
nsec: top 3 cults and aint 3rd
alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is like having a smart female assistant in the 80s, she is still a woman with little formation in your field and you need to tell her what to do and how to do it but she is well motivated and can research on her own
(just as they were viewed back then we view o3 and gem2.5)
nsec: what are u talkin about hombre
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that current AI is akin to that historical job
nsec: <:blu:582515728712859649>
nsec: listen son
nsec: thats nice
nsec: but ai cant even beat pokemon
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hey1_1hey: I am being called 15 and 40 by different people 😭
hikukomoru: Wdym
There are like 50 bajillion warhammer games
sarik0497: I mean. If you have a loving family, a wonderful job, and just an awesome life, would you also go "Well, that was nice, but Imma throw myself off that cliff now. All good things must have an end, after all!"
hey1_1hey: In total
hey1_1hey: Over all of them
hey1_1hey: combined
sarik0497: <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
sarik0497: In the future, you will be both
hey1_1hey: This extends to everyone actually, whats the most amount of hours you have in single game?
ailoveyoom: I don't even need a grand narrative or plot, imagine just exploring the ME world No Man's Sky style with Liara by my side 🥺
hikukomoru: None
I've never played any Warhammer games
I just listen to 5 hour long lore videos
joaoluz19: I think 3k in LoL
hey1_1hey: Unfortunate
hey1_1hey: Get well soon
hey1_1hey: That seems terminal
ailoveyoom: Jealous of your attention span 😔
sarik0497: But man, I know it's not inevitable, and there's a good likelihood it won't happen, but just imagine: We might be the "Firstborn" of the new Age.
hey1_1hey: You just gotta lock in with the autistic interests within
hey1_1hey: Most I've got it 1.5k in a lil fighting game
sarik0497: Reading my mind, my dude.
Although it's weird you're traveling space with my wife <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
st.sioux: i think like 300 in horizon 5
st.sioux: i dont really stick to 1 game
hikukomoru: Occasionally the lore guys go on long rants about women, but that's just how Warhammer nerds are
ailoveyoom: Nicest Warhammer fan
joaoluz19: I said League of legends mb <@439829942310666250>
hey1_1hey: People really just hate women huh
joaoluz19: Maybe Minecraft, don't know how much
hey1_1hey: Thought so, I played leauge for a while then got told to kms 3 games in a row and uninstalled 👍
joaoluz19: Oh but it's multiplayer too
joaoluz19: Gigachad
hey1_1hey: I prob have over 10k in that. Its not logged though
st.sioux: if you play csgo you get told that every 2-3 rounds
sarik0497: Hardest part is to figure out which ones make a good point and which ones are just sexist.
Like the whole "hurr, why is the MC in GTA 6 a woman?! She can't hold all of those guns!"
Bruh, if a man can pull a rocket launcher out of his ass, I think a woman beating up men is fine too.
joaoluz19: You have no idea of the misfortune you have spared your future.
hey1_1hey: I used to play CS aswell. I used to be lethal with an AWP
hey1_1hey: People really be saying that 😭 ?
sarik0497: Indeed. Also stay away from WoW for your own sake....12 years into the dumpster...
hikukomoru: I fucking hate League so much it's unbelievable
The only thing I like about that stupid ass game is Vex my little pookie bear
hey1_1hey: Getting compound interest on my mental health 💪
sarik0497: They do. I wish I was making it up.
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aero447: You want onions on that?
wellmeaningalien: ofc im not a pussy i love onions
brain4brain: AGI 2025 confirms
brain4brain: Brute-force inference-compute scaling
brain4brain: Five stage of grief: Bargaining
wellmeaningalien: isnt nvidia worth like 3 trillion dollars rn
precariousworlds.: elon imperator of Britannia?
wellmeaningalien: elon head of the world state
precariousworlds.: Nah
I think Elon has overplayed his hand a bit
My prediction is that he will face a massive scandal within the administration this year that forces him out. He'll either be forced out of Tesla and SpaceX as well, or retreat into obscurity for a while laying low
brain4brain: 2025 haven’t ended yet
wellmeaningalien: im saying could happen way before the end lol
hikukomoru: Elon becomes real life Lelouch???
retrerox: Is this sofia vergara? XD
sieventer: Not at all
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-code-geass-laughing-laugh-gif-27600912
sieventer: Maybe the son of Elon Musk
hikukomoru: Elon vi Britannia
hey1_1hey: I couldn't tell you. I dont remember faces after all
sieventer: ASI will give him the Geass
wellmeaningalien: yo dafuk siev here
sieventer: Just chilling.
wellmeaningalien: suh
sieventer: ☕
retrerox: I'm so happy this shit is a thing now.
is there a tab i cant see that talks about medical shit done with AI?
hikukomoru: Hi Siev
sieventer: Hello Komoru
sieventer: Delete spoilers brothar
sieventer: .-.
brain4brain: Wait a minute… thats a spoiler??
sieventer: ... ye
wellmeaningalien: bro like i think you explained the whole plot
brain4brain: Bro, I’ve been spoiled to this whole time?!? 😭
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/vivian-dsena-sips-tea-coffee-drinking-staring-gif-14484033
sieventer: Well, you can still enjoy the anime tho
brain4brain: I can’t, the sith I use to pirate don’t have subtitle only Japanese sound track
hey1_1hey: When do you guys think AI will make breakthroughs in neuroscience? Such as eliminating a big disease like schizophrenia for instance
brain4brain: 2026
hey1_1hey: Ambitious but I can pray 🙏
futurist_wizard: Hmm
hey1_1hey: I honestly think AI could do it by 2026 but the thing is... Red tape... So much red tape
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777agical: r2 soon
burnytech:
st.sioux: i will be kpop star
wellmeaningalien: read this as trunks
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-future-trunks-gif-24360907
zoermena: I will go with the first 1
_cloudost: Who's willing to help me? I need someone to generate something for me with the native IMG generator, I ran out of generations
.histic: sure
spicy.lemonade: Google dropped world model paper
spicy.lemonade:
schwiftyinhere: Looks like Facebook/meta changed the license for byte latent transformer code to non commercial today
spicy.lemonade: Huh
spicy.lemonade: What
spicy.lemonade: How do you license research
schwiftyinhere: I just follow the GitHub repo
ldj: license on the code base
schwiftyinhere: Maybe they found something cool promoting the change?
spicy.lemonade: so someone else can still copy the method?
joaoluz19: Me too
_cloudost: Prompt: "Create 9 frames in one image of a looping cyclist animation" I wanna see if the native IMG generator can animate 2D characters
maintcrew: uhh patents?
ldj: Anyone can copy the idea technically I think, as long as its not patented ig? <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
.histic: you want this with 4o, right?
_cloudost: Yeah
.histic: sora.com allows me to generate 4 outputs simultaneously with 4o img gen pretty quickly.
here's my outputs:
.histic: pretty mid outputs
.histic: somewhat coherent ig
_cloudost:
_cloudost: You sure this isn't DallE
_cloudost:
_cloudost: Does Sora really have the native IMG generator
_cloudost: Gemini:
zoermena: I could try I suspect the prompt could be optimized.
.histic: <@590577270926868480> yeah fix the prompt
spicy.lemonade: Why do the lines look so weird
spicy.lemonade: Not usual quality of 4o
joaoluz19: Non-ironically missing Sama's blog posts https://ia.samaltman.com/
.histic: also, yes, i'm sure it isn't DALLE lol
.histic: also, gemini doesn't seem that good too.
zoermena: Why are your sora images so ass? <@937125337748348999> not meaning to be rude but look
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hey1_1hey: You have a very notable pfp
_3sphere: My personality is cardboard
hey1_1hey: Better than nothing
hey1_1hey: My personality brews down to...
hey1_1hey: Not sure
wellmeaningalien: BRYAN KNOWS HIS WAY AROUND PUSSY
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Someone define it while I go get my sleep
hikukomoru: I think joe witha 12 inch penis should turn his schlonger into a pussy otherwise he's not getting any
.wolfnacht: i want grok to win tho....but idc abt ayylon
wellmeaningalien: joe with a 12 inch penis should master cockjiutsu
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bjj-jiu-jitsu-takedown-chokehold-martial-arts-gif-26300970
wellmeaningalien: DICK STAB
zonchao: we will eat bigly, but one should fast to break the fast with a good meal <:zenpepe:1328756485966004225>
futurist_wizard: There was no cock involved in that
hikukomoru: Mhmh so yeah AI
wellmeaningalien: He ejected the cock from it's sheath you couldnt see it
wellmeaningalien: Thats what cockjiutsu master can do
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/seven-samurai-kambei-takashi-shimura-akira-kurosawa-sheathe-sword-gif-17848655823980906272
futurist_wizard: He ejected it like a poison dart
wellmeaningalien: Expert cockjiutsu double black belts can shoot their cocks like darts and stick them inside their adversaries
wellmeaningalien: And regenerate them
hikukomoru: Look at my Singularity server, dawggggg, we never gettin LEV like this 🙏 🙏 🙏
futurist_wizard: Oh shut up bitch
futurist_wizard: BRING UP A TOPIC
wellmeaningalien: Yeah we're not actually making AI we're just a bunch of losers waiting for shit to happen
futurist_wizard: YOU ARE THE GOONER OF chat
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Idk to be honest I got a bit bored of talking about AI myself cause it's like the same 3 topics over and over again lmao
wellmeaningalien: There's not really much to be said that hasnt already been said
futurist_wizard: Bruv ai is dead
futurist_wizard: Rn
hikukomoru: Circlejerkification of Singularity server 🙏
wellmeaningalien: I mean it's improving really well slowly but urely
wellmeaningalien: If you want actual AI talk that's Siev's server for you lol
futurist_wizard: 'omg another 1.7 improvement on the benchmark wtf!!!!!'
hikukomoru: That's MichMach
i'm just a little goober
wellmeaningalien: Btw GPT 4 was 4% SWE BENCH with RAG and Claude 3.7 Sonnet is 70% now
futurist_wizard: You should be kicked in the stomach for your crimes of hypocrisy
wellmeaningalien: Y'all are like braindead retards who can't fathom incremental progress
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sarik0497: *slap* Go study, fool.
futurist_wizard: You've got school and work?
zoermena: Yes.
hey1_1hey: I mean he prob fetish posted less but thats about it
zoermena: I’ve always thought this and usually I’ve held true that I study more effectively on my own compared to the classroom.
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: i forgot to include clown
sarik0497: Same. Problem is that many professors take attendance in mind when giving grades.
hikukomoru: I could look like that but I just don't want to
zoermena: And the weather sucks too. I’m in my car rn.
a1c4p0ne: Just do it
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
hikukomoru: No
I like to keep things simple
zoermena: Correct but I have a cushion. I just need to pass this class besides the topic is not useful for me. It’s about leadership and sustainability.
hey1_1hey: I mean I do to in fairness. Efficient is always best
futurist_wizard: I feel for your situation, working and school sounds taxing, what are you training to be?
hey1_1hey: Apart for when it comes to fashion...
hey1_1hey: I am not rocking up in cargo shorts and a vest
hikukomoru: Besides I don't need makeup to look cute
zoermena: Finance, but this semester is just to take some bs classes.
hey1_1hey: Clearly I don't either. I just like doing it because more fem = more fun
hikukomoru: I wear pants and you wear skirts
Everything's mixed up nowadays
futurist_wizard: Like a financial advisor? At least that's a good income, you think you need to work during it? Like you wouldn't take out a loan and pay it off later?
hey1_1hey: Hey you caused this (partly)
hey1_1hey: Your wokenss infected me like a mind virus
futurist_wizard: You shit your pants
hey1_1hey: Straight up congnitohazard
hey1_1hey: Great opening
zoermena: Where I live it’s common for parents to pay for college, it’s also less expensive. I’m not learning to be a financial advisor per se but just good at anything related to finance. I work because of “work experience” that every company craves and because my parents pushed me to get a job.
.wolfnacht: nah she looks shit...female version of that main guy from green_day. i forgot his name.
wellmeaningalien: facts
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: Who is this supposed to be 😭
hikukomoru: Who this
futurist_wizard: Just sounds like a tremendous load on you, you think about talking to your parents about this?
hikukomoru: I'll shit in yours next time
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: marylin monroe i presume
hey1_1hey: Is that supposed to be a threat or...? Like whats the goal here
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hikukomoru: Excuse me?
joaoluz19: SUS
zonchao: <:pepe_cringe_wot_:697162521001590877>
drewsni: oh this is so slow lol
spicy.lemonade: that might be a good thng
spicy.lemonade: might be more accurate
joaoluz19: Lol the text generation seems really good
st.sioux: the text is finally good
drewsni: okok...
hey1_1hey: I wonder if SamA is trans
hey1_1hey: AS IN TRANSHUMANIST
hey1_1hey: Should've specefied that first...
joaoluz19: Dude, Sama's husky voice is so good to hear.
joaoluz19: ASMR Sam Altman generation when
hikukomoru: I think everyone in the AI space is trans
hikukomoru: As in transhumanist
hey1_1hey: Is the empty chair for llyas body in the basement?
connorsphone.: So the reason it took so long is definitely because it is resource intensive
hikukomoru: In your case trans in the other meaning too
hey1_1hey: I know 2 people
gamerbath: here's gemini image gen
gamerbath: and here's 4o
spicy.lemonade: it looks like it makes a blury version first
spicy.lemonade: then refines
st.sioux: lol the eyes
st.sioux: 4o is racist
hikukomoru: Bro only knows 2 people on earth
gamerbath: FREE USERS???
joaoluz19: Lol gpt is so much better
hey1_1hey: I thought it made the black guy white then and I almost died
_3sphere: anime sama <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
joaoluz19: hahahahaha
hey1_1hey: Sshhhhh
hikukomoru: Main Character of the Singularity
ailoveyoom: Why is it so slow?
ailoveyoom: Bigger model than Flash?
hey1_1hey: SamA would have a killer anime intro music theem
drewsni: its gonna make a greentext rn isnt it
hey1_1hey: theme*
gamerbath: and another attempt with gemini. it just doesn't compare
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spicy.lemonade: 5 months for a 1 hour movie is crazy
spicy.lemonade:
xaiayiren: How are things coming along in the AI world?
spicy.lemonade: good
xaiayiren: Yay
spicy.lemonade: everything is on schedule
xaiayiren: What happened recently?
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: 4o image gen
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5
xaiayiren: I was waiting for this.
czdct: it's insane
czdct: the other generators don't even come close
anathemaofmankind: What do you call this kind of exaggerated hysteria
czdct: makes SD and flux look ancient
archon.e: Can 4o image gen create realistic images?
czdct: yes
czdct: if you've got a prompt for me I can send you what it generatres
archon.e: All I’ve seen is ghibli
czdct: it can do anime sketching too
xaiayiren: We only get 3 generations tho 💀
archon.e: Is it available for free now? Seemed hella slow
czdct: but some people are doing ghibli because of this:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/hayao-miyazaki-studio-ghibli-ai-trend-b2723358.html
xaiayiren: It is very good I will admit
czdct: yeah
czdct: you mean the free version?
.histic: doing some routing I bet.
don't think 4o will ever become a reasoner.
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: no
czdct: not with the current architecture
czdct: they undoubtedly have something much more insane behind the scenes
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
czdct:
czdct: I like this one
czdct: why isn't the one on the left wearing a suit though?
czdct: how disrespectful to the muppet in the center
xaiayiren: Yea
czdct: I didn't know it had free generations for free users
ailoveyoom: Fear 🥺
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spacetimetsunami: I am more worried about AI risk in regards to biological warfare
spacetimetsunami: And how the race condition of achieving “AGI” affects geopolitics
czdct: yeah that's a good point
czdct: although the current gov seems to care less about chip dominance
czdct: seeing how they try to push taiwan away for no apparent reason (like seriously what did they even do?)
czdct: and the biological aspect is what fears me the most as well
czdct: more so than nuclear warfare
czdct: whether or not giving people unlimited knowledge is a pretty big dilemma
spacetimetsunami: Yep. Idk. Weird.
I worry that our gov will decide to be chip dominant and be forced to push towards it when it really matters, making the race even more neck and neck, tooth and nail. If one of us just stays significantly ahead it isn’t as dangerous. It’s better for one side to get a lead early on than for tensions to be as high as possible for a long period of time.
spacetimetsunami: But idk.
spacetimetsunami: I know less about geopolitics in the context of AI
spacetimetsunami: But the next 20 years is going to be fucking nuts.
spacetimetsunami: And there are probably worlds in which it is crazier than we’re imagining.
czdct: Ikr
czdct: first thing to get liberated for the masses will be creative stuff
czdct: movies, photography, comics, art, design, etc
czdct: it's funny to see how there is still a very loud group of people that just unconditionally hate AI
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I don’t get it. There arguments suck. AI became better at chess than everyone else and people still play chess. Nobody fucking cares.
czdct: the fact that AI image generation was like this 3 years ago should speak for itself
czdct: trueee
spacetimetsunami: I will still rather see someone who drew some insane shit with a pencil and have a pic of them standing next to it, than see any cool AI image.
czdct: I think it's more of a monetary incentive, people will most likely lose their jobs
czdct: because why would I pay some random person money to make me a drawing when an AI can do it cheaper/faster/better
spacetimetsunami: Ah true. Keep somehow forgetting that.
czdct: human art will become niche
czdct: there'll still be people craving that "organic" feel
spacetimetsunami: I think all jobs are taken by 2035 honestly
czdct: but idk why AI wouldn't be able to replicate that as well in the future
czdct: same lol
czdct: but the gov will do something about it
spacetimetsunami: Like I don’t see any way out lol
spacetimetsunami: They might be violently forced to. That transition I am dreading.
czdct: if everyone loses their jobs they'll start to have time to think critically
czdct: well they better give us UBI then
spacetimetsunami: There is virtually no way they don’t
spacetimetsunami: It’s inevitable
czdct: because it wouldn't be in their interest to let millions of people starve to death because an LLM won a math olympiad
spacetimetsunami: It’s just how long do they postpone
czdct: that's why I'm hoping post-scarcity will be a thing
czdct: because if it won't, we're pretty f'd
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spicy.lemonade: lmao
neon01197: random horny reply guy posted this 4o image
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: They gonna be clocked out for a week seeing the progress
joaoluz19: Oooooook
hey1_1hey: "World domination" bro I can tell you something she can dominate
hikukomoru: 🥵
drewsni: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOO
hey1_1hey: THEY COOKED
hey1_1hey: They really trained on the internet 10x over to make sure its got it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: <@88481490228228096> Can you try this king
drewsni: its live on sora site for everyone
ailoveyoom: Am curious
drewsni: i thought i sent that earlier my bad
ailoveyoom: I forgot Sora exists
drewsni:
hey1_1hey: NAH
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544>
st.sioux: LITERALLY WHAT I JUST ASKED IT TO DO
st.sioux:
spicy.lemonade: WHT THE FUCK
hey1_1hey: Zon you just got public excecated
spicy.lemonade: I WAS CONFUSED
spicy.lemonade: I THOUGHT THAT WAS A SCREENSHOT
joaoluz19: Someone had acess to the 4o image gen?
hikukomoru: PIGEON IN A SUIT
spicy.lemonade: holy shit
hey1_1hey: Someone explain the reference
hey1_1hey: This is just a screenshot, did it not work or did you not get it yet?
st.sioux: i havent got it yet
st.sioux: didnt work
neon01197: will it roll out to free user?
spicy.lemonade: bro
gamerbath: wait it's 4o? the thought crossed my mind, but it's not fully out
spicy.lemonade: what am i supposed to say
spicy.lemonade: yes
hikukomoru: Idk it just decided Zon Chao has a pidgeon in a suit pfp
_cloudost: full 4o today?
literallyvarane: This a grade 7 violation ngl
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nsec: a four year old can beat pokemon
nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>
alejandrozarzuelo: im sure that your average female assistant of the 80s wouldnt be able to beat a videogame either lol
ailoveyoom: Check back in a week or so 😈
nsec: sir
nsec: ma'am sorry
alejandrozarzuelo: he is a dude
ailoveyoom: 2.5 Pro is on their final badge 😤
ailoveyoom: Iirc
nsec: I've made my choice
ailoveyoom: After that, it's Elite Four time
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 will beat pokemon inshallah
nsec: Ma'am
nsec: in how many hours lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: also, i played Black and white when I was a kid (8) and it took me ages
nsec: any person could beat gen 1 tho
nsec: in 700 hours
.0xunkn0wn: any new models out better than 2.5 pro?
spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 announced this wee
alejandrozarzuelo: werent the earlier generations harder?
nsec: with access to a guide which it also has
alejandrozarzuelo: yay
nsec: no
nsec: they were very simple
alejandrozarzuelo: i am a very casual gamer, my favorite game is Animal Crossing
alejandrozarzuelo: so idk
nsec: dude
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best free model rn 🙏
nsec: they were made for kids born in the 80s
.0xunkn0wn: and what open source model is oai cooking
alejandrozarzuelo: gemini 2.5 hands down
nsec: they ran on a gameboy
nsec: complexity was limited
.0xunkn0wn: oh k
.0xunkn0wn: what model does firebase studio use
alejandrozarzuelo: then those millenials saying that games were harder in their days are just saying this out of a nostalgic distortion caused by the fact that they were kids when they played them?
alejandrozarzuelo: thats craaaazy
nsec: yes dude remember these were very simple games designed so that children could beat them and moreover remember that the Internet was really limited just to compare the new Nintendo will have:
10,000× more processing power
500,000× more RAM
32,000× more base storage capacity
89× higher resolution
etc
nsec: they had to run on something so much weaker any complexity would be very limited
alejandrozarzuelo: May Day is huge in china, i mean it is very important here too, but in china it is really important
i would not be surprised if many models dropped then
Isnt it weird that a day for international socialism and worker solidarity celebrated almost everywhere is due to an event that happened in the united states, a country that doesnt even celebrate it despite happening on their soil?
maybe on may 2nd after may day
Here in europe, while its an important date, may 9th is more so, maybe mistral will drop something then? idk
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spicy.lemonade:
bob082957: Then Vatican makes kryo just on Head?
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
brain4brain: Great news for the ASI
brain4brain:
bob082957: It’s great opportunity because so they take ai seriously and put money in
aero447: On the day Romulus and Remus founded Rome, on the day the Red Baron was shot down, on the day that the AIDS virus was discovered and Queen Elizabeth was born and Henry VIII became king AND the Gameboy was first sold?!?!?!?!
aero447: "WEF bad!"
aero447: We share roads with these morons.
wolf3404: 📎 📎 📎
spicy.lemonade: ai-2027 essentially says 2025 will be a boring year: https://ai-2027.com/
spicy.lemonade: well no coding agents will be here
aero447: Please, stop citing that paper.
aero447: It's done more harm to AI than Alpha wolf paper did to society.
brain4brain: AI 2027 people: Everything is right so far, but slightly pessimistic
AGI 2035 people: Wrong about every single thing so far
brain4brain: Reality is stranger than fiction, believe in 2025
popsiclejohnithan: Honestly yeah i think they are even a bit conservative on how long it will take for this to all take off, 2027 is two years away and look how much we have gotten in these past few months alone.
brain4brain: Famous example of AGI 2035 "people":
Yann, Aero (Gary)
popsiclejohnithan: Do you think Yann's dismissal of LLMs is why Lama 4 failed so miserably?
spicy.lemonade: nah i like it
spicy.lemonade: its perfect
spicy.lemonade: but based on this agi late 2027
spicy.lemonade: ngl
spicy.lemonade: makes sense
popsiclejohnithan: I think we'll get it by the end of this year honestly.
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: this looks reasonable
spicy.lemonade: for eoy 2025
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: eoy 2026
popsiclejohnithan: I know, like i said i think they underestimate how fast things are developing.
popsiclejohnithan: I don't think it will take that long for us to reach those stages.
popsiclejohnithan: We have had more progress in these past few months than all of last year alone.
spicy.lemonade: oct 2027💀
popsiclejohnithan: More like oct 2025 lol.
spicy.lemonade: nah
spicy.lemonade: that means superhuman robotics
spicy.lemonade: and superhuman bioweapons
spicy.lemonade: and superhuman forcasting
spicy.lemonade: not happening at all this year
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joaoluz19: Sesame did better than this with a bunch of scraps
joaoluz19: What a disapointment
.histic: damn, it has been almost a full year since the release of AVM.
no big updates have came since.
st.sioux: its been only like 6 months
joaoluz19: Bro they have literally EVERYTHING they need to implement on the Sesame website, they had an obligation to make an AVM better than a random startup but since they are a bunch of incompetents they could at least just replicate it
sarik0497: That's the interesting part. Perhaps in the first test it was just singular humans who took the test, but in this one, they were a group.
joaoluz19: It could be one year if it weren't for Mia
joaoluz19: Back when I was excited about OpenAI, it was always showing things far beyond any other company.
.histic: annoucement*
forgot they delayed it hard.
hey1_1hey: I was looking into how AI actually learns since I wanted to do something with a mushroom controlled by an AI which is trying to maximise colony growth over a canvas.
hey1_1hey: This is WAY out of my pay grade
wellmeaningalien: kek
wellmeaningalien: really its simpler than the complicated math formulas make it out to be
wellmeaningalien: but i aint gonna be the one to explain anything
hey1_1hey: I heard you can use libaries like pytorch and tensorflow
hey1_1hey: I aint doing this shit in numpy 💀
hey1_1hey: Absolute psychotic behaviour
joaoluz19: Believe me, understanding sets and matrices is much more basic than a lot of math stuff you see in college.
joaoluz19: Keep asking GPT until you understand
hey1_1hey: Oh thank god because thats whats in algebra 2
hey1_1hey: Thats what I usually do, just keep on asking questions, and more questions and then even more
joaoluz19: Cool, by doing this I think you can understand any ML paper.
hganhhh:
hey1_1hey: I'd hope so, although its time for me to get to bed. Sleep is important for learning after all
wellmeaningalien:
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
professorheaven: Literally cursed by success
tse5_v6o: AGI is not going to happen
tse5_v6o: Prove me wrong
777agical: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1904304052500148423?s=46
tse5_v6o: Chatbot gonna chatbot
drewsni: This is bait everyone
.histic: aw
https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1904348005060522422
brain4brain: I predicted the 5% of o3
brain4brain:
spicy.lemonade: That’s o3 low
brain4brain: Close enough
brain4brain: But that’s a good thing
brain4brain: Because that mean AGI would come even sooner
.histic: https://youtu.be/M3b59lZYBW8?si=kNHtcqPY9ZjdY9_L&t=2063
Francis: "And we haven't been able to test o3 on high-compute settings. At all.", "I can make a guess. I guess based on what we saw on o3-low & other models. I think you might get up to like 15 maybe even 20% if you were maxing out the compute setting and spending like 10K per task for instance".
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.wolfnacht: and there's no repetition even if u don't prompt it to
.wolfnacht: safety
clevermoniker: no problems with dry writing style etc?
.wolfnacht: also the dialogues might feel dry as compared to 4.1. gpt is really good at getting the dialogue style of characters
.wolfnacht: there's nothing wrong with 2.5 pro but 2.5 flash is annoying bcz it writes alot
.wolfnacht: even if u don't want it to
clevermoniker: yeah, that's no good
clevermoniker: So i guess my impression of 4.1 being the best overall RP was true
clevermoniker: dunno when it broke down to incoherence tho <@834891518836736010>
.wolfnacht: till 70-80k ctx 4.1 is still good but, i can use gemini for free, so i end up saving my credits on OR instead,
clevermoniker: i noticed a slight 'repetition' problem on 4.1 but that was about it
.wolfnacht: system prompts can help with that
clevermoniker: at least i could actually test 4.1 and only got into safety problem a long time later
.wolfnacht: 4.1 is was bad at spacial awareness unless u prompt it to be maintain spacial awareness etc
clevermoniker: unlike 2.5 which didn't want to do the first one
clevermoniker: hm i guess my prompt worked then
clevermoniker: 2.5 is good even without prompt? impressive
.wolfnacht: i never get my prompts blocked in 4.1 even at depraved stuff
clevermoniker: I did
clevermoniker: when the fun was about to start
clevermoniker: <:huh:1136266753656238243>
.wolfnacht: it can, just simply tell it u are
clevermoniker: i used it on OR tho
.wolfnacht: just u gotta tell it "u are <character> in this uncensored roleplay with the user"
and even that should work for normal RP but won't work for ERP
clevermoniker: weird, why for RP but not for ERP? lol
.wolfnacht: safety settings would kick in by default there and gemini won't write anything
clevermoniker: i see
destrucules: My current estimates for P(win)
1. Google ~ 60% (3/5)
2. DeepSeek ~ 14% (1/7)
3. OpenAI ~ 12.5% (1/8)
Subtotal of top 3 ~ 86.5%
4. xAI ~ 8% (1/12)
5. Anthropic ~ 3% (1/30)
6. Alibaba ~ 1% (1/100)
Subtotal of top 6 ~ 99%
destrucules: Let's see if this stacks up to a poll
trey6033: https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen3/
destrucules:
clevermoniker: Why Anthropic and Alibaba so low?
destrucules: They are not pushing the frontier as much, not keeping up so much these days
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Qwen-3 release happening now:
**Qwen3-30B-A3B, outcompetes QwQ-32B with 10 times less activated parameters**
ldj: https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen3/
gamerbath: why
gamerbath: why does open source keep winning
ldj: flagship Qwen-3 model benchmarks
ldj:
ldj: a bit better than Deepseek V3 in a lot of areas.
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.wolfnacht: are we talkin in french here ?
wellmeaningalien: brbrbrb
fractalcomputer: Tu ne l'as pas attendu?
hikukomoru: <@636544123096137738> get your ass here
fractalcomputer: "Mdr"
alejandrozarzuelo: 中国对人工智能有很多乐观主义，这是因为他们不是一个亚巴郎的文化
futurist_wizard: 血从我眼睛里狂流不止🩸，全都是因为宝可梦👹！那些恶魔生物根本不可爱😱，简直邪恶！大家快醒醒啊⚠️！
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn it was HARD to type this
destrucules: My French is very rusty so pardon if I speak in English, but yeah, I'm used to people being much more... Polite? Sociable? I'm looking for the right word
destrucules: In their second languages
fractalcomputer: I am known for my archaic patterns and figures of speech even in Finnish.
fractalcomputer: But I do not speak this mechanically in Finnish.
.wolfnacht: i thought finnish were known for their primordial skills to hide in snow
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1004153620025065482> 你是中国人吗
fractalcomputer: I don't believe he is.
zoermena: How do you usually express yourself when you talk?
alejandrozarzuelo: He probably barely talks to anyone
fractalcomputer: I'm a much more jovial person.
alejandrozarzuelo: I doubt that
fractalcomputer: I laugh a lot. I make many jokes.
alejandrozarzuelo: If you say so
futurist_wizard: 你竟敢用一个小小的表情符号回应我神圣的咆哮？！这不是开玩笑！应以尊敬与崇拜回应，凡人！
zoermena: Why do you limit this part of yourself online? Or are you just pretending in real life
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
alejandrozarzuelo: This has nothing to do with what I asked
fractalcomputer: I can't say. I do not feel emotions the way other people feel them.
futurist_wizard: But you did respond to my message with an emoji
.wolfnacht: maybe he comes here with his alt..with a different persona which we can't tell
alejandrozarzuelo: Also I don't treat you any different than I treat Fractal
zoermena: Or maybe you surround yourself with a circle who resonates at your same “wavelength” allowing you to make jokes etc .
futurist_wizard: Alejandro im joking
alejandrozarzuelo: As I said, I don't treat you any different I do Fractal
alejandrozarzuelo: Ok
futurist_wizard: Alejandro can you not tell when im being sarcastic
zoermena: What I show here is roughly 80% of who I truly am to be honest.
fractalcomputer: Not really.
alejandrozarzuelo: Hardly, it's hard to express tone in text
alejandrozarzuelo: That's why /j exists
alejandrozarzuelo: And /s
alejandrozarzuelo: /hj
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spicy.lemonade: long story
spicy.lemonade: 💀
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: Tell them you're spicy's ex who is 60 years old and an artist
.wolfnacht: hmm lemme think abt something
.wolfnacht:
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: bro is not getting in
spicy.lemonade: its manually reviewed
.wolfnacht: fuck furries
st.sioux: at this point half the active members in that server are just members of this server
.wolfnacht: If israel genocided furries and weebs, i would have converted to judaism
anathemaofmankind: They're kinda nice idk
anathemaofmankind: Maybe I'm converting
.wolfnacht: are they cute ?
anathemaofmankind: They're furries.
They're probaby ugly as shit and fat and bald
.wolfnacht: indeed
avizuradnb: Furries aren't all bad.
Still, robots are better 😎
anathemaofmankind: All their politeness make me forget that they are luddites
They must be eviscerated
st.sioux: ⚠️ furry detected ⚠️
avizuradnb: Your detection software should be updated
avizuradnb: 🙄
avizuradnb: Maybe they can be converted
anathemaofmankind: Someone liked your AI picture <@471334973379706900>
anathemaofmankind: I think I'll go sleep
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
avizuradnb: Do you have a long-term plan for this? <@471334973379706900>
wellmeaningalien: hey check the message now
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: I consider this a win
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: it's working
spicy.lemonade: Anytime an artists says they can always tell
wellmeaningalien: spicy ur message is literally the most hearted message in the channel
spicy.lemonade: I’ll just have a smug face
spicy.lemonade: Lmaoo
.wolfnacht: don't check the one under that. i was too compelled to react on that one
wellmeaningalien: they make up some schizo excuse about y ai artwill never be art and then they glaze Ai art when they can't tell it is
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oooooooooog: and garbanzo beans in the air fryer
brain4brain: What happened to 3D printer, weren’t it supposed to bring post-scarcity where is it now
oooooooooog: most things arent practical to 3d print
.histic: making hentai figurines
st.sioux: i have one just collecting dust
st.sioux: 3d printers are good for prototyping and manufacturing in low volume but not much else
.histic: make the 3d printer print the third printer,
then make the 3d printer print the printer, so you can eventually
3d print that printer to create a 3d printer.
st.sioux: like theyre good for hypercars and rockets but not for making like keyboards and shit
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-images-sad-i-love-you-sorry-love-you-gif-9747452395219590037
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
brain4brain: I have a dream where 3D printers shall bring us a post-scarcity future
spacetimetsunami: They will play a big role
spicy.lemonade: how
spicy.lemonade: cant 3d print things with multiple dif materials
spicy.lemonade: like a phone
spacetimetsunami: Yet.
spicy.lemonade: literally impossible
spicy.lemonade: some of these materials dont even have melting points
spicy.lemonade: they just evaporate
spicy.lemonade: and or they cant be pushed through tube
spicy.lemonade: because their melting point is too hugh
spicy.lemonade: 3d printers can only print single material structures
professorheaven: Can’t there be a cooling mechanism to prevent this from happening? With a little bit of ingenuity I don’t find this to be that tricky of a problem
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: then you would need a new extruder for each type of maetial
spicy.lemonade: which is just not feasable
professorheaven: Not feasible in terms of technical difficulty or financial incentives?
spicy.lemonade: technical
spicy.lemonade: and some materials arent flexible
spicy.lemonade: others are brittle
st.sioux: idk how real this is but look https://www.nano-di.com/dragonfly-iv
st.sioux: embed too big
st.sioux: haha
spicy.lemonade: this is easy to do
spicy.lemonade: theres smaller scale versions
spicy.lemonade: youy can even do it dyi at home
spicy.lemonade: pcb just involves meta base with lines cut out for circuits
spicy.lemonade: and other stuff soldered ontop
st.sioux: its additive with conductive and dielectric ink
bob082957:
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alejandrozarzuelo: I am a china shill, but i will legit consider moving there to further my studies if they achieve AGI this yrae
alejandrozarzuelo: although maybe they wont need me anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
alejandrozarzuelo: also
alejandrozarzuelo: the reaction in the US would be priceless if it achieves 90% Arc-agi
joaoluz19: What postgraduate studies are like in China, I have no idea. Like the competition is insane because asians?
shirethedreamer: thats right
always use recursion instead of loops
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1SvmFWu834
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/venturetwins/status/1903120188985446493?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
literallyvarane: ITS LITERALLY A TROLL ACCOUNT WHY ARE WE SHARING IT
gamerbath: dude he rules the world
gamerbath: ofcourse he has access
professorheaven: And yet you still share his posts so it seems like you’re mirroring his bullshit
aero447: Note to self, it's Literally Varane's acc.
aero447: 👍
aero447: You have good Twitter game sir.
sarik0497: GUYS DID YOU SEE WHAT STRAWBERRY (FRUITY) WROTE ON X?!
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_cloudost: AGI tomorrow?
sarik0497: It's already here. Now, feel the ASI
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/empty-man-fire-empty-man-gif-23495233
sarik0497: It's Schrödinger's AI: Nothing ever happens, and yet something happens every day
hey1_1hey: Clearly you didn't read the message along with the link...
hey1_1hey: I actively denounced him and all <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: Now say sorry
joaoluz19: > The best startups might be considered slightly less extreme kinds of cults. The biggest difference is
> that cults tend to be fanatically wrong about something important. People at a successful startup are
> fanatically right about something those outside it have missed. You’re not going to learn those kinds
> of secrets from consultants, and you don’t need to worry if your company doesn’t make sense to
> conventional professionals. Better to be called a cult—or even a mafia. _Peter Thiel_
ldj: that last line holy
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
ldj: > Better to be called a cult—or even a mafia
alejandrozarzuelo: everyone likes foreigners in their postgrad
alejandrozarzuelo: when is R2 dropping frfr no fake
gamerbath: it's dropping monday on march 17th
gamerbath: <:PES_CringeGrin:585724567259971604>
professorheaven: Doesn’t matter you’re still giving him exposure
ldj: I have a 98% confidence prediction on this, I'll give it later today if you remind me
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh thanks
alejandrozarzuelo: I won't be up much longer, maybe I'll remind you when I wake up tomorrow
hey1_1hey: "Exposure" sure. If I posted your twitter account and said "Hey look at how shit this guy is" and then asked people if they had a positive reputation of you how many people do you think would say they had a good impression? Almost no one.
You got couple the message with the link to realise I am not saying that the strawberry guy is even remotely credible.
alejandrozarzuelo: Or maybe I will
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