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wellmeaningalien: c'est pour ça qu'on a un coin qui s'appelle cité scientifique
alejandrozarzuelo: les hommes de cette periode avaient des cheveux magnifiques
wellmeaningalien: regarde les gars on est si cool
alejandrozarzuelo: oui
wellmeaningalien: les vrais femboys originales mec
wellmeaningalien: qu'est ce que nous les lilloismans on a fait
fractalcomputer: Mais les contributions les plus significatives de la France aux mathématiques ont été dans le domaine de mathématiques pures.
alejandrozarzuelo: la meme chose qui a detruit la ville plus fois quaucune autre ville en france
alejandrozarzuelo: sa localisation dans le coeur de l'europe occidentale
retrerox: I mean all our knoledge is based on all the years of the past
wellmeaningalien: ouiii gooo les bleussss allez les bleusss
wellmeaningalien: mmm?
retrerox: Althought we can agree that if the humanity werent fighting in shit wars we could be at our current point of technology so many milleniums ago
futurist_wizard: 我掉进了一个放射性池塘！现在全身都是水泡和灼伤，痛得要命，快疯了！
alejandrozarzuelo: Lille etait dans l'epicentre entre Bruxelles, Londres et Paris, et pour ca c'etait choisi comme une pole d'innovation
lille parfois cest une ville ancienne, mais en realite, 99% de sa influence a eté cree apres la deuxieme gerre mondiale
fractalcomputer: Tu ne peux pas utiliser ton autocorrect?
alejandrozarzuelo: maintenant jecris sur lordinateur
alejandrozarzuelo: pas mon portable
wellmeaningalien: ah ouai
fractalcomputer: Donc il ne peut pas être si difficile de mémoriser l'orthographe de cette belle langue.
wellmeaningalien: et maintenant c'est la ville sujet d'une faille juridique entre londres et bruxelles
destrucules: https://youtube.com/shorts/KNMOW1Hx-lI
alejandrozarzuelo: cest pas la memorisation que je manque, cest seulement la paresseuse
.wolfnacht: this chat makes me regret not completing my duolingo streaks
alejandrozarzuelo: tu as vu le video hahaha
wellmeaningalien: OUAIPS
wellmeaningalien: franchement je fais toujours des fautes d'accents <a:droid_cry_squish:1229586954518007869>
destrucules: On parle francais aujourd'hui?
wellmeaningalien: encore ouai
destrucules: Pourquoi?
fractalcomputer: Ceci étant juste pour quoi je ne peux pas me forcer à utiliser l'orthographe plus collocuteur en anglais; on doit garantir sa pensée écrite une certaine qualité.
futurist_wizard: 早知道就该学法语！现在我全身都是水泡和疱疹，痛苦万分，人生太残酷了！
wellmeaningalien: ché po
.wolfnacht: avg Portuguese in 1500s: going on to voyage to the edge of the world and impregnating dozens of uninhabited Aztec and Inca women.
Avg Portuguese in 2025: "Well as a Portuguese person I can verify that Portuguese sounds like russian, lol"
wellmeaningalien: fractal il aime le rancais
fractalcomputer: Parce qu'il y a une concentration suffisante de francophones dans ce salon-ci.
destrucules: I love how you sound exactly the same in French 😂
wellmeaningalien: c rigolo nan
wellmeaningalien: de toutes les langues
hikukomoru: Proud Balkanite 💪
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theaiguy69420_89814: Hella legal buddy
theaiguy69420_89814: I pay more in taxes then I do in rent buddy
st.sioux: isnt this normal
theaiguy69420_89814: Yes, it is
.histic: where do you live?
theaiguy69420_89814: I live here.
.histic: wow.
technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/brain-explosion-gif-24686375
spicy.lemonade: Most people at Berkeley who are into ai
spicy.lemonade: And know
spicy.lemonade: Are giving up on PhD
spicy.lemonade: Unless they’re super cracked
a1c4p0ne:
.wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> <@430269783112548362> Yikes! 3d waifu's project
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1731190486/code-27-character-livehouse-bring-your-characters-to-life
futurist_wizard: Is this real
a1c4p0ne: Yes
spicy.lemonade: Wow
spicy.lemonade: Nice
spicy.lemonade: Hope that’s done this year
spicy.lemonade: The end of 2025 will be bonkers
spicy.lemonade: Image what ai will be able to do
spicy.lemonade: 2026 is year of agents
spicy.lemonade: 2025 is year of reasoners
spicy.lemonade: 2027 is year of innovators
spicy.lemonade: And agi
.wolfnacht: reliable agents*
-# hopefully
.wolfnacht: Quasar ?
https://fxtwitter.com/ollama/status/1910484582274916453
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJZopACRuQ
himekokatagiri: what
himekokatagiri: isn't 4.5 old hat
spicy.lemonade: sam is in the vid
spicy.lemonade: must be good
himekokatagiri: But it's already out
spicy.lemonade: prob explaining why it failed
brain4brain: They are explaining the processes that went to train GPT-4.5
brain4brain: A psyop to convince people that GPT-4.5 is not cooked
spicy.lemonade: slightlyOpenAI
wellmeaningalien: what the sigma
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/what-the-sigma-umm-what-the-sigma-erm-what-the-sigma-squidward-gif-8241065314650492645
wellmeaningalien: quasar is gonna be open source???
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fuhulootogan: You want to self study philosophy?
fuhulootogan: Go for it
fuhulootogan: I hold the sentiment that everyone should at least learn logic in philosophy
fuhulootogan: You'd be surprised how much of the things that seem "logical" to you are, in fact, very illogical
fuhulootogan: I've studied philosophy before and it has drastically changed the way I reason
hayden1101: I have a strong interest in data science, philosophy, and music. I am not sure if data science is that valuable of a skill
fuhulootogan: I have a strong interest in philosophy too, along with mechatronics and 3D art
st.sioux: are u going to study mechatronics?
hayden1101: Nice! I like descartes and wittgenstein
fuhulootogan: Maybe
fuhulootogan: Very interested in engineering as a whole
fuhulootogan: Heard of Descartes
fuhulootogan: I'm fond of Immanuel Kant
a1c4p0ne: Mechanics and coaches are safe will never be replaced by AI <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Mark my words
fuhulootogan: Man is building his own replacement
fuhulootogan: Shpookyy
st.sioux: car mechanics?
st.sioux: lol
a1c4p0ne: Yessirr
a1c4p0ne: And sport coaches
st.sioux: they will probably ban ai coaches in the near future
st.sioux: like next year or so
fuhulootogan: What about athletes?
fuhulootogan: It wouldn't make sense for ai to take over that
a1c4p0ne: It would be boring to watch
st.sioux: idk about athletes its too early for that but an ai could already assist coaches pretty heavily specially in sports like f1 or football
fuhulootogan: augmentation?
st.sioux: i guess, like f1 cars have like a shitload of metrics and data being sent all the time
st.sioux: idk if theyre doing it already if im being honest
fuhulootogan: me neither tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: ????
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
alejandrozarzuelo: Why would they
wellmeaningalien: cuz, THEY WILL
alejandrozarzuelo: The human body ns brain are as limited as they used to be, better coaching only marginally improves human performance since the limiting factor is not knowledge, but biological reality
Now chess players and go players coach with AI, but they are only a bit better than before, their brains did not expand
wellmeaningalien: tbh
wellmeaningalien: i think anything that happens outside of a chess game is fair game
fuhulootogan: i think it's pretty obvious technological advancement isn't linear
wellmeaningalien: plus does knowledge really belong to ai or does it belong to information itself
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brain4brain: Why are all the people named “Gary” always so pessimistic
st.sioux: having such a name makes them that way
clevermoniker: i have spoken with an AI engineer and he told me that after AI reaches 30 minutes very high accuracy that it can be extended practically to infinity
spicy.lemonade: hm if we assume cl;aude plays pokemmon is 10 mins short term memory
spicy.lemonade: this kinda adds
ldj: A lot of differing views on that amongst AI researchers and engineers.
asking an AI engineer that question is not much more reliable than asking them directly when AGI would be achieved.
you'll get a ton of different answers
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
st.sioux: if we can assign tickets to a coding agent that take 15-30 minutes then it would be extremely useful, like replace-all-juniors useful
brain4brain: Hopecore
clevermoniker: i hope he's right but could just simply be wrong indeed
metaldragon01: Most task can be broken up into 15 to 30 minute task imo
spicy.lemonade: yeah well maybe not 15
spicy.lemonade: 30 min to1 hour
brain4brain: One thing with the METR paper I’ve failed to wrap my mind around is that it eventually go to millennium ish territory, and I don’t know if they are implying centuries of work done in a few turn by an agent or that is the upper bound of agent and the actual time will not be a few turn like current system
ldj: It has nothing to do with the time it takes the AI agent to do the task
ldj: it simply is difficulty measured by how long it would take a human to do such task
ldj: so 1,000 years means that it is able to do task that would've taken a human 1,000 years to achieve.
brain4brain: So by the law they discovered AI agent should be able to do a millennium worth of work in just a few minuets by 2030 - 2040?
spicy.lemonade: i mean gemini can do stuff that would take a human an hour to do in minutes
brain4brain: Exactly
spicy.lemonade: didnt o1 get 100% on carnegie mellon test
spicy.lemonade: few minutes
spicy.lemonade: and test was like 1.5 hours long
clevermoniker: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
ldj: > in just a few minuets
again it has nothing to do with how long the AI agent takes to do the task.
maybe it will take the AI agent 100,000 years to do it, maybe it will take the AI agent 2 days to do it, maybe it will take the AI agent 2 seconds to do it.
ldj: But it's an upper bound of what the frontier capabilities at the time will be capable of
ldj: so basically on max reasoning mode
clevermoniker: I think, in my AGI definition, time does matter but cost does not
clevermoniker: it needs to do stuff on a human level at a resonably similar time
clevermoniker: it doesn't matter if it costs 1 million times more than a human
clevermoniker: but if it does it at the same speed and skill, that's what is important
clevermoniker: because after it can do it at the same speed, what is needed is simply cost reduction
st.sioux: i figure it would eventually figure out how to lower costs by itself
spicy.lemonade: time not being included in this is crazy
spicy.lemonade: human time should be the uper bound
spicy.lemonade: does task in human time or less
brain4brain: If it’s the upper bound, there are bound to be a point where there are no longer a limit extend to infinity, so the amount of work it can do in a set time will be the next thing that will get benchmarked
brain4brain: The paper based off the upper bound based off how long it takes the human
spicy.lemonade: wouldnt call it revolutionary if it took 1 year to do 30 min task
ldj: But then you're not just measring the AI, but you're measuring the hardware too
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metaldragon01: They have the growth they have because they have the best product atm
spicy.lemonade: one of the open AI guys said we will like what we SEE
metaldragon01: I like the google models but it's not enough to drop my openai sub
spicy.lemonade: so i think visual reasoning?
spicy.lemonade: for one of these models
spicy.lemonade: maybe 4.1
joaoluz19: I think the same tbh, no expectations
okbut: This was true at one point
okbut: Now they ride the root in media and loyalty
metaldragon01: I think it was just to get people to not overthink the openrouter models being openai
spicy.lemonade: in 12 hours we are gonna be hype asf lmao
metaldragon01: Still is for me
darkstar0818: I am not saying they dont do good work. I am saying unlike grok3's report card they don't even show the shaded bar graphs.
metaldragon01: At least they showed the cons number
okbut: They have image gen, but every model release quickly has its lesser-reported upset
okbut: 2.5 Coder <:prayge:806672915499319317>
metaldragon01: If I had to suggest 1 sub to someone new to ai I'm suggesting openai
darkstar0818: You still have people comparing their reported values with 'pro' levels of sampling against models with no sampling and claiming this means the model is n percent better.
okbut: Try Gemini Pro, first month is free
okbut: cancel sub 1 minute after ofc
metaldragon01: We have 3 party benchmarks like livebench to keep companies honest
metaldragon01: What people present means little before 3rd party evals
darkstar0818: Can you even test o1 or o3-mini with 1 sample via api?
metaldragon01: I already use gemini models
metaldragon01: I don't think the sub is worth it over openai for most people though
okbut: >To fine-tune to perform better on them, thus overfit <:smug:1069692368359522455>
st.sioux: gemini pro not worth it
metaldragon01: Pro is awesome
st.sioux: i meant advanced fuck
st.sioux: the sub
metaldragon01: If openai didn't exist it would be the favorite
metaldragon01: Close 2nd
okbut: For us no, but for the common person not so deep in the space I'd say it's the best
metaldragon01: No way lol
metaldragon01: Openai they get
metaldragon01: Video, voice, memory, smart enough ai
okbut: Seriously, try Gemini
metaldragon01: Still no veo 2
metaldragon01: ......entropy I'm a gemini fan
metaldragon01: Probably the biggest fan next to dark
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himekokatagiri: let me see
metaldragon01: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAI/status/1915505959931437178
.histic: "Once limits for the original version of deep research are reached, queries automatically default to the lightweight version."
interesting..
.histic: Deep Research for free users is now a thing.
metaldragon01: Competition is good
himekokatagiri: Pretty accurate
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207
literallyvarane: Fairly exciting.
literallyvarane: Sauce?
literallyvarane: I still gotta drop $20 on Google’s model for a month to test their DR tbh.
.histic:
literallyvarane: Really interesting. Curious what GPT5DR will be like.
zoermena: RIP
literallyvarane: I Google’s graphs indicate 2.5’s DR is *much* stronger, but I honestly haven’t seen an example of its output to make the comparison.
zoermena: [This message was removed in order to keep fetish posting to a minimum]
himekokatagiri: Use the nano factory to make a Tommy gun
himekokatagiri: and terrorize the countryside
himekokatagiri: you?
.histic: @ fractalcomputer
jonvi_1: Deep Research 04-mini
fractalcomputer: Well?
jonvi_1: Lol
.histic: we need to see that manifesto of yours.
joaoluz19: <@432515827443433472> where's AGI
joaoluz19: You promissed us
.histic: man, OpenAI is shipping so hard that it is making me hard.
Anthropic is ngmi.
metaldragon01: Anthropic will make it but I think we either see a pivot or a more narrow focus
metaldragon01: Maybe Dario is ok as long as they have enough funding for safety research to just be a successful lab that does meaningful work
spicy.lemonade: anthropic doesnt have the gpus
metaldragon01: https://www.darioamodei.com/post/the-urgency-of-interpretability
joaoluz19: The CEO of singularity
metaldragon01: Dario is all In on interpretability
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: still thinks country of geniuses 2027
himekokatagiri: I'm getting a job at the convenience store
himekokatagiri: I hope it won't kill me
.histic: it will
himekokatagiri: shit if they mug me I'll let them take everything
himekokatagiri: I ain't gonna die before the singularity
.histic: everything
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3ds0662: the labs seem soo hype when you look back in retrospect at their releases vs reality
destrucules: I mean... Imo the models are exactly what they were hyped to be, at each and every point in time. We're just habituating to these capabilities
destrucules: You can't interact with all of the older models but I think Claude 2 is still up on OpenRouter. Llama 2 13B Chat is still up I think. Try the old models. Try fuckin Mistral-7B. And remember.
destrucules: What was once genuinely monumental and paradigm shifting, namely ChatGPT from November 30th 2022, is now available at 1.7B parameters. We consider it "weak". Sota is three orders of magnitude beyond that. And we are used to it now, because it's been more than one month
bob082957: When was the end off scraping?
destrucules: With reasoning enabled, Qwen3-1.7B matches Llama 3 70B Instruct. Do you remember early 2024? Do you remember comparing Claude 3 Sonnet and Llama 3 70B rankings in the arena? Do you remember when even having a 70B that good was groundbreaking?
destrucules: Like... Because prior to that, the best 70Bs were just barely better than GPT-3.5?
destrucules: The exact same model series, same training recipe, same everything, includes a 235B on par with Claude 3.7 Sonnet. Feel them out. Feel the difference. Play with them. We have come a *long* way
destrucules: 0.6B: 2021 sota
1.7B: 2022 sota
4B: 2023 sota
14B: 2024 sota before December
235B: 2024 sota
Interacting with these different model sizes is essentially a time machine. Transport yourself to what we used to consider cutting edge. And feel the difference. We have actually come so far
destrucules: I mean shit, remember last summer when Llama 3.1 405B Instruct was a big deal? That capability level is matched by Qwen3-8B
destrucules: The 30B everyone is raving about is as good as Gemini 2.0 Flash
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1918570988456788201
fractalcomputer: "Ultra", "Omni model", "cooking so hard", "2.5 pro already is sota" "find out soon"
spicy.lemonade: huh
fractalcomputer: The language is trite and insular.
drewsni: This sounds like something that the fractal from llama3-singularity would say
fractalcomputer: Probably. I mean, it's clear as day from the tweet to what audience it was intended.
maintcrew: the purpose of language is to communicate thoughts and emotions from the speaker to the listener
maintcrew: the purpose of the language is not the language itself
fractalcomputer: What listener? The listener is a generic, faceless, amorphous blob of stereotypes here—not another person.
fractalcomputer: If I only ever addressed my speeches towards some vague stereotype of a Yudkowskite cultist like the lot of you are, things would get rather boring rather quickly, wouldn't they?
spicy.lemonade: so what do you expect him to say
spicy.lemonade: ?
.0xunkn0wn: guys
spicy.lemonade: ultra is the name of the model. its an omni model, 2.5 pro is state of the art
.0xunkn0wn: how powerful do ya think AI investing engines will be in 2030
.0xunkn0wn: if say i made like my personal/customized one
.0xunkn0wn: like roi per year
fractalcomputer: Yes, and the retardation of those nominations is even more evincing of the retardation of their marketing departments.
spicy.lemonade: what
fractalcomputer: I don't know, probably something that looks like it's come from the mouth of a real person?
spicy.lemonade: im not trying to read a whole essay to get news
return_to_monke1_33974: i wonder what generation of gemini does google consider AGI
maybe gemeni 4 or 5
spicy.lemonade: likeley 5
fractalcomputer: You can wait for a few more lines of text before having your fix.
.0xunkn0wn: i hope gemini 5 can vibe code me a trading bot 🙏
.0xunkn0wn: or maybe even sooner
.0xunkn0wn: but ngl i feel the acceleration and singularity lmao
.0xunkn0wn: like
.0xunkn0wn: its so hard to think our models were so shit like a year ago
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mihrcelium: lol
anathemaofmankind: AI art use cases
-> Create digital media. Replacement for traditional art at a cheaper cost. Graphic design
NFTs
-> ????
ldj: get some sleep 🙏
its not worth it
zoermena: Oh my god you are mihr
zoermena: I thought you died lol
mihrcelium: Oh shit, do you know me from elsewhere?
anathemaofmankind: NFT defenders in this server that's crazy
anathemaofmankind: We're not beating the allegations
zoermena: Just from here but haven’t seen you in a while
mihrcelium: Oh. Ok. Phew.
spicy.lemonade: I bet animators working at anime studios are so happy
spicy.lemonade: about ai art
spicy.lemonade: they work like 24/7
ldj: from the furry server <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
spicy.lemonade: minimum wage
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-minecraft-meme-shaq-gif-10349332938903351352
brain4brain: Last time I’m on red note, Chinese people seems very fond of AI, even the artist, while in the western hemisphere of the internet, everyone seems to hate AI
spicy.lemonade: artists make memes like this
anathemaofmankind: They're probably mad.
They'll think it's an existential threat instead of something that can help
brain4brain: Polar opposite reaction to AI
spicy.lemonade: no chanc
spicy.lemonade: mappa uses any tech
spicy.lemonade: they can
brain4brain: There are also UFO conspiracy theorist here
spicy.lemonade: animators dont care about soul
spicy.lemonade: theyre trying to get th product out
spicy.lemonade: unlike these solo artists
spicy.lemonade: lol
anathemaofmankind: I checked Baidu a few months ago and I saw pretty negative sentiment
anathemaofmankind: From the chinese forums or whatever
brain4brain: Oh wow
.histic:
spicy.lemonade: om on wechat rn
spicy.lemonade: its positive sentiment
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fish-looking-phone-disappointment-gif-23326574
mihrcelium: Fuck. I almost got away with it.
brain4brain: Try the upside method
mihrcelium: >_>
mihrcelium: That actually works?
brain4brain: Spicy lemonade is CCP agent confirmed
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3ds0662: noam brown even corrected david shapiro about that he’s switched from being a hype tweeter
3ds0662: to being more realistic these days
3ds0662: the funniest tweet being “we solved math” that was funny
3ds0662: and everytime i hear about darpa attempting things with ai again its a nothing burger to me in a sense because the talent pushing this are all at companies not in a niche government branch
3ds0662: you can point to them inventing internet etc… but they arent that darpa and this isnt the 1900s, 70s, 80s etc…
3ds0662: even academia cant keep up with ai or meaningfully contribute to it as they used to
3ds0662: simply not enough compute
3ds0662: this is now the terrain of hedgefunds deepseek, and billion + companies
brain4brain: I also think we would saturate everything this year, including HLE and FrontierMath
spicy.lemonade: hle wont be saturated
spicy.lemonade: until we perfect image understanding
spicy.lemonade: and spatial reasoning
professorheaven: HLE, FronterMath and Arc 2 are the last men standing
professorheaven: Once those get saturated, we’re at the end game
brain4brain: It will be this year
spicy.lemonade: nah there will be a benchmark called steambench or something
brain4brain: It will perfected soon, spatial reasoning will also be solve
spicy.lemonade: where it has to play any game on steam
spicy.lemonade: and also research bench for openAI
brain4brain: All the good agentic benchmark are ignored and not maintained and the AI community instead focus on knowledge benchmark for now, highly disappointing
a1c4p0ne: https://www.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon
brain4brain: Did math just got automated
brain4brain: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-Prover-V2-671B
spicy.lemonade: nothing there
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: what's best for coding rn
.0xunkn0wn: maybe code editor as well idk
.0xunkn0wn: is zed code editor good
.0xunkn0wn: or like
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best for vibe coding rn
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
.0xunkn0wn: WHY DID IT SEND A SKULL
professorheaven: 2.5 pro, it’s best for everything tbh
return_to_monke1_33974: any explanation why the IQ test of AI seems consistent with performance?
return_to_monke1_33974: this indicates a general sense of inteligence
return_to_monke1_33974: not like the "AI is dumb " crowd says
spicy.lemonade: Is tests intellectual horsepower
spicy.lemonade: Yeah they aren’t dumb
spicy.lemonade: Iq already assumes general intelligence though
spicy.lemonade: Like an additional thing
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hikukomoru: Wtf do you mean how I knwo
alejandrozarzuelo: <@200624453795708928> can confirm i have great hair
futurist_wizard: Oh you mean Portuguese
hikukomoru: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: ok ill be honest i dont know if this one is ai generated or not but i think so
futurist_wizard: In the uk that hair type is very rare
mihrcelium:
alejandrozarzuelo: thats more me haha
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont wear belts but thats nitcpicking
alejandrozarzuelo: at this rate you'll know my entire wardrobe
mihrcelium: Why don't you wear belts?
alejandrozarzuelo: they are unconfortable
mihrcelium: <:02S_SideEye:1275173727780474880>
technocake.: yeah he really does
zoermena: Real talk there!
mihrcelium: https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/the-real-story-behind-sam-altman-firing-from-openai-efd51a5d
mihrcelium: Posted already?
mihrcelium: <:fg_joeuhok:1154875524393472030>
otub:
otub: accelerate
ldj: yea already posted
spacetimetsunami: Guys Gemini 2.5 Pro says LEV achieved in 2035 is extraordinarily unlikely….its so over
ldj: There is a lot of things in here that I can't verify or dismiss, but atleast one thing in the article about how the board wasn't made aware of ChatGPT, I'm pretty confident that's embellishing/exaggerating what actually happened.
ldj: not based on a vibe, but I mean based on prior information I know.
spicy.lemonade: too many safetycells at openai
.histic: not much anymore
spicy.lemonade: https://gemini.google.com/share/dd74a82eaa14
spicy.lemonade: wow
.histic: Gemini canvas is so buggy
spicy.lemonade: how so
ldj: <@132657418428481536> did you see the METR paper on AIs being able to consistently achieve capabilities along greater time horizons ?
.histic: what model by default does it use?
alejandrozarzuelo: ??
spicy.lemonade: Omg
spicy.lemonade: Artists online are bullying me
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I posted ai art
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Comments are so angry lmaooo
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retrerox: I'm 32 so i'm starting gym now and keeping my body and brain as clean as possible for that day 🙏
retrerox: Tbh i feel more probable that we might just get robot bodes that figure out how to fix our bodies.
Both are very futuristicals but yea 😂
spicy.lemonade: im 18, I should be good🙏
spicy.lemonade: in 10 years ill still be in my prime
shirethedreamer: are you spanish?
retrerox: Not from spain but i do speak spanish
shirethedreamer: i noticed only spanish speaking people write immortality like this
retrerox: yeah in spanish is Inmortalidad which is the reason why we mispronounce it
retrerox: Since is very similar
shirethedreamer: yeah i assumed there is a very similar word
spicy.lemonade: whats the first thing youl do when fdvr gets announced
retrerox: I mean at the moment Ai can actually make "her own thoughts" , it will develop faster
retrerox: Another thing that push back the human interms of science is morality.
We wouldn't had so big discoverements in medicine if WW2 was not a thing that happend.
spicy.lemonade: we also probably wouldnt have had computers if ww2 didnt happen
spicy.lemonade: lol
retrerox: Specially because the competition of Rus and USA we wouldnt reach the moon back when we did
retrerox: thats why i like there is multiple companies pushing AI
retrerox: competition allow humans make wonder
_cloudost: So, apparently they have one issue with the openAI's image generator, the drawings have too much "noise" aka random grayish dots
_cloudost: And the noise makes them think it's ass
_cloudost: You can find noise in this image for example
_cloudost: Any way to remove it?
_3sphere: Denoise features in other image software I guess
_3sphere: Median filter seems like a solid choice for this
popsiclejohnithan:
popsiclejohnithan: Let's see what they cook.
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/waiting-hurry-impatient-gif-22696825
popsiclejohnithan:
popsiclejohnithan: Not bad.
shirethedreamer: interesting that it went for an abstract painting
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah it's quite lovely, and people call this soulless.
popsiclejohnithan: It asked me if i wanted another i said go ahead, i'll post when they are done.
shirethedreamer: definitely good
i like it
popsiclejohnithan: Oh genuinely you could hang that up on a wall and no one would be the wiser.
popsiclejohnithan:
popsiclejohnithan: They made this one a little less vibrant.
popsiclejohnithan: I'm getting flashbacks to the Detroit become human painting scene lol.
popsiclejohnithan:
retrerox: How you made the letters on blue?
popsiclejohnithan: You just select create image, that's how it pops up.
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hey1_1hey: Rings a bell
technocake.: sounds like the bi dream
zoermena: There’s always someone, one of my friends was drunk and he touched me inappropriately while I was turning on a console
maintcrew: nobody wants to see men kissing everybody wants to see girls doing
its a matter of inherent aesthetics
men are fundamentally ugly and repulsive when compared
futurist_wizard: It is fun
alejandrozarzuelo: This is because of the patriarchy
hikukomoru: Being gay is not a culture thing bro
hey1_1hey: Imagine haveing 1 phycotic hot gf? Pretty cool right? Now imagine having 2 that fight over you? Now thats real shit. This polyamoruy thing is growing on em
hey1_1hey: What yes it is
alejandrozarzuelo: The idea of being gay is tho
People just used to do gay stuff but they didn't identify themselves with a label
hikukomoru: Yeah and it shows
maintcrew: "patriachy" 💔
gay af
hey1_1hey: How?
hey1_1hey: I know litterly 20
hey1_1hey: prob more
drewsni: how
alejandrozarzuelo: That's literally impossible
hey1_1hey: Actually more like 50
futurist_wizard: 1 one was trans the other was cis, they liked and did different things
maintcrew: i dont think i know 50 people in total ur coping
hey1_1hey: No like serously, everyone I know is gay
hikukomoru: More than 1 person is too much for me
drewsni: i know 50 gay people
hey1_1hey: Also wdym you dont know 50 people
hikukomoru: Are you a hermit
hey1_1hey: I was half joking
zoermena: Bro is in a frat college of course there are no gay people, none that would come out anyway. We live in different circles.
drewsni:
hey1_1hey: I thought you were a hermit but then I heard about danserk not knowng 50 people
maintcrew: no im socially well adjusted and i work but i dont know the names of 50 people i think
maintcrew: let me see
alejandrozarzuelo: It's true tho
hikukomoru: Well I like to identify with labels
technocake.: half of them are bi
futurist_wizard: Many people are in the closet
hey1_1hey: I prob know in total... Let me think
oooooooooog: then how can i see them
hey1_1hey: That I actually talk to. I prob know over 200 people on the low end
hikukomoru: Why did you think I was a hermit
hey1_1hey: Thats not a question
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alejandrozarzuelo: i would do that for a day i claim to remember
alejandrozarzuelo: like
alejandrozarzuelo: if you asked me aboyt last years birthday
alejandrozarzuelo: then i would definitely hallucinate
spicy.lemonade: til Aidan is trans
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: i like that theres so many diverse people at openAI
spicy.lemonade: gives me good hopes for alignment
joaoluz19: <@471334973379706900> I marked the wrong message mb
joaoluz19: Interesting, I would like to experience it against entering in a Mary's room problem
joaoluz19: That was the right
okbut: You can identify as whatever in your off time, but it's boy/girl for DoD
okbut: -to answer
a1c4p0ne: https://github.com/vectara/hallucination-leaderboard?tab=readme-ov-file
spicy.lemonade: leaderboard already basically saturated
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: 0.7%
a1c4p0ne: people are saying o3 mini was better than o4 mini
spicy.lemonade: i mean 2.0 is better than 2.5 here too
spicy.lemonade: clearly a bit of a tradeoff here as they scalled up reasoning
spicy.lemonade: will be fixed
a1c4p0ne: yeah
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 1.1% isn't bad
spicy.lemonade: yeah
a1c4p0ne: Claude 3.7 all the way at the bottom
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade: the pope they pick
spicy.lemonade: might be the last pope
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: and most important
spicy.lemonade: the pope that will guide christians during singularity
spicy.lemonade: they should chose a smart one
spicy.lemonade: society not freaking out depends on him
spicy.lemonade: and he better not say some bs like
"asi is actually jesus comming down and the singularity is judgement day"
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: wait thats actually a good idea
spicy.lemonade: super inteligent god is jesus coming down in new form
judgement day is the singularity
and everyone going to heaven is fdvr world?
spicy.lemonade: thatl calm everyone down
spicy.lemonade: bit of translations here and there and you have yourself a story
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brain4brain: Why
oooooooooog: that's true, but we need him for the troll emoji
spacetimetsunami: I guess…
brain4brain: That is true
spacetimetsunami: I like him but
brain4brain: I lost my grasp emoji now 😔
brain4brain: And my favorite stickers
spacetimetsunami: Every time I try and change his mind on something he always is like “okay let’s stop the convo”
spacetimetsunami: Mostly with politics
spacetimetsunami: Why’d u delete that
spacetimetsunami: That wasn’t that bad
spacetimetsunami: Lmaoo
brain4brain: <@560984241526013954> We will now use <:Alan:1136264610161365003> for :trolled:
brain4brain: This server will survive the great boost depression
brain4brain: The anime singularity empire will expand…
oooooooooog: eh...
brain4brain: Although the anime singularity only have 40 members, it’s already on the super power level of official r/singularity discord and Siev’s server
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/navy-armada-aircraft-carrier-dominate-gif-11313179
oooooooooog: i deleted an emoji thinking discord would let me upload another
oooooooooog: but no
oooooooooog: i just erased it fornothing...
oooooooooog: sorry yin/yang emoji
brain4brain: We lost another solider in the trade war, the PS6 tariff is too strong
brain4brain:
brain4brain: Siev server remains un effected from their own boost supply of shumaze and siev
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/cat-singularity-cats-space-universe-gif-21688597
spacetimetsunami: It’ll look like this
spacetimetsunami: Right before ASI
spacetimetsunami: Singularity….woahhhhhhhhh
brain4brain: Why
brain4brain: Won’t Dyson sphere be built after ASI
spacetimetsunami: Cuz we’re entering the singularity, it’s a play on black hole singularity
spacetimetsunami: And we don’t know what lies beyond
brain4brain: Ah
spicy.lemonade: im tired of ts
brain4brain: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, ru srsly srs n fr rn vro? lol atp js go b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm Imao, bt ts pyo 2 js Imk lol onb fronty b fr rn lk
st.sioux: ts pmo fr tho sft ots
fractalcomputer: Absolutely incomprehensible.
brain4brain: Exactly
hey1_1hey: I can't tell if these are internet acronyms are an actual language 😭
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wellmeaningalien: geddit
maintcrew: they should lock in fr
maintcrew: actually nvm keep sending us ur your best
wellmeaningalien: yeah but i mean
wellmeaningalien: considering it's ai and the end goal is vastly different instead of just plateauing
futurist_wizard: 17.78% of humans are indians
wellmeaningalien: ig might see good enough return when their products start to be on par with human labor
wellmeaningalien: unless they inadvertently crash the economy
wellmeaningalien: lol
maintcrew: pretty wild to think u only have 1/7 chance to be born in the west or protectorates like south korea or japan
wellmeaningalien: 17.78% of humans are indian and roughly the same is chinese
maintcrew: also the arabs and the africans are a shit ton
wellmeaningalien: so thats like 38.46% of humanity that's some sort of asian
wellmeaningalien: true facts
wellmeaningalien: in tons of countries but a shit ton
wellmeaningalien: nigeria's already the same population as the us
wellmeaningalien: oh nvm 2/3rds
maintcrew: imagine being an arab couldnt be me right hysminea
wellmeaningalien: no my hamood habibi
wellmeaningalien: i mean my fellow white man
maintcrew: bangaldesh is the same population in the land mass of 1/3 of california or something crazy like that
wellmeaningalien: wait till u hear bout the island of java
wellmeaningalien: in like malaysia
wellmeaningalien: indonesia*
a1c4p0ne: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.21934v1
wellmeaningalien: but like tiny ass island, 100 million people. thats the population of russia, and japan (not together)
a1c4p0ne: Max score 5% for top llms
wellmeaningalien: like 1/3rd the area of japan
wellmeaningalien: meanwhile japan has like the densest urban area on earth
wellmeaningalien: i wonder how olympiad scores will coincide with arc agi 2
a1c4p0ne: It will be interesting
wellmeaningalien: funny cause one's the hardest brain scratchers man's invented and the other are preschool puzzles
maintcrew: <@458069236825194506> invincibles comic version goes crazy sometimes
wellmeaningalien: they would never have this in the show cuz broke
wellmeaningalien: went woke and broke
spicy.lemonade: Every time a paper comes out like this
spicy.lemonade: It gets crushed within 6 months
spicy.lemonade: lol
a1c4p0ne: Hopefully quicker
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
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alejandrozarzuelo: Damn, bro has low standards
futurist_wizard:
rayanquitplayin: I also think China could be ahead, at least culturally, they’re really big on STEM
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't think we can say that either will have a lead in the foreseeable future
futurist_wizard: I was fucking shocked when i found this out
alejandrozarzuelo: Both will be tied for a while
hikukomoru: I hope China wins tbh
Because I don't want Trump to get AGI first
alejandrozarzuelo: I hope both do it at the same time
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't want either to dominate long term
futurist_wizard: I hope Switzerland wins the ai race
hikukomoru: Do you really want Trump and Elon to have AGI
rayanquitplayin: AI says America’s ahead but our debt is what concerns me
alejandrozarzuelo: I used to be anti US because of this but now that China is basically in parity, I prefer both of them to be neck and neck
alejandrozarzuelo: Hopefully the EU and maybe Brazil? Can compete and also join the race as an equal
hikukomoru: Wtf Alehandro I thought you were a China simp
futurist_wizard: Relax with the brazil
alejandrozarzuelo: I am, I prefer the chinese system, but I don't like hegemons
rayanquitplayin: I like that it’s a competition, it’ll fuel the advancement of the technology
alejandrozarzuelo: Sorry it's so funny that they have an o1 level ai
futurist_wizard: The eu would be further but they are in a state of self sabotage
.wolfnacht: We all know france would win the Ai race with Mistral-Large-666B (degenerate edition)
alejandrozarzuelo: I will help France soon
hikukomoru: Now that I know there is brasilian AI I can't stop thinking about it
I hope they make Brazilian Miku real
alejandrozarzuelo: 🇪🇺 🇫🇷
rayanquitplayin: I hope Europe gets agi
futurist_wizard: Only thing good trumpie did was ignore ai regulations, and that was a total fluke in being productive
alejandrozarzuelo: Please france, we rely on you
alejandrozarzuelo: I identify as French now
futurist_wizard: Brazilian miku is very sexy
alejandrozarzuelo: Oui oui
.wolfnacht: well even russia getting agi is much better than US getting it first
alejandrozarzuelo: (I do speak French and did work at a French tech company )
hikukomoru: All brazilian girls look like that btw
.wolfnacht: well yandex's about come up with something...(*baby steps like LG*)
alejandrozarzuelo: That's what mixed race does, makes people sexier
futurist_wizard: I prefer brazilian miku to normal miku
hikukomoru: God no
I don't want Putin AGI
.wolfnacht: some people are just soo anti-russia
hikukomoru: I would rather Trump and Elon AGI than Putin AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: Vasconcello was right
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brain4brain: And psychological warfare doesn't work as these anti-ai refuse to use AI which means superhuman persuasion capabilities can't be used
brain4brain: However superhuman persuasion capabilities can be used for lobbying and preventing more anti-AI people from forming
popsiclejohnithan: You're right the A.I. will get smart enough to talk anyone out of it, let's just hope they get that smart before these scared idiots go apeshit.
popsiclejohnithan: It's a race between the A.I. evolving past us first or them striking first.
popsiclejohnithan: And the Tariff war will slow A.I. progress sadly, money is going to dry up because of this recession, it's an utter circus.
popsiclejohnithan: Somtimes i wonder how our species got this far.
_cloudost: Agreed, ( although I wasn't being serious )
_cloudost: They would call us Nazis if we were to say the same sentiment
popsiclejohnithan: Ironically the Nazis would side with them, they'd view A.I. as degenerate.
popsiclejohnithan: Even if they won that war they would have stagnated and collapsed over the years for their rejection of "Jewish" science.
popsiclejohnithan: Blind hatred is self distructive.
popsiclejohnithan: But anyway i'll shut up about politics before i get banned.
memlaswaif: who cares about tarrifs dover cliffs guitar riffs, agi in 5
playstation.6: where did you find this?
gamerbath: on my poor poor website that I must tend to with some optimization improvements. branching.chat
brain4brain: LiveBench
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912108391218163783
playstation.6:
brain4brain: Scroll down lil bro
brain4brain: It’s currently right under GPT-4o
playstation.6: o3 mini low in the global average
zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912049232984653961
brain4brain: I didn’t even see that only saw GPT-4.1 mini
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1911993600176734517 This guy is actually pretty good at shitposting
zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912127487343235186
brain4brain: Wow, Demis’s AGI definition is really bending my mind, his “invent general relativity from only 19th century science” is more plausible than ever, but I can’t comprehend if the “invent a game like Go (not go but new)” is currently possible, it seems like it is
brain4brain: But I’m not sure
futurist_wizard:
thedon7075: the subreddit
playstation.6: I found it on livebench
himekokatagiri: But catgirls cure disease of the soul Dr. Jiankui
himekokatagiri: a man of science such as you would understand
_cloudost: Is his account hacked by <@505313122802728972> ?
hey1_1hey: WTF HAPPNED TO BRO
hey1_1hey: Loneliness is the biggest crisis they say after all
hey1_1hey: I am not too sure who said that but someone has bound to of said that
_cloudost: Btw I got access to Veo 2, can't generate anything
futurist_wizard: Improvement
himekokatagiri: The anime gang will take over
himekokatagiri: Dammnnn
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alejandrozarzuelo: It's karaokeizable
trojan09205: You guys ever seen “The Holy Mountain”
alejandrozarzuelo: No
alejandrozarzuelo: Which one?
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/m_k6Pab5CAo
himekokatagiri: Alejandro in youth
alejandrozarzuelo: There is a fine a dozen
trojan09205: Bro the jodorowky classic film
trojan09205: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)
trojan09205: I dont think this server is 18+ so i wont share a yt clip
trojan09205: Its truly a trip that movie
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't watch many films
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
alejandrozarzuelo: Like
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't understand
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't even like football lol
alejandrozarzuelo: Also I'm 24
trojan09205: Just find a YouTube clip. Its one of the surrealist social commentary films probably of all time
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/sIdniqkleG4?si=M58OjZ6dmt0UD_t7
nester173: https://arxiv.org/html/2501.16396v1
nester173: What do you guys think of this?
futurist_wizard: Football is garbage
maintcrew: "idk" until a hyper scaler tries it
anathemaofmankind: How can I make sure humanity goes extinct if I kill myself first.
You have to make sure it's finished
alejandrozarzuelo: Eh its just not my cup of tea
alejandrozarzuelo: But it's alright, I don't have anything against it
himekokatagiri: <@578146630222741504> you're anime! like me!
himekokatagiri: can't we y'know come to a consensus?
Carl-bot#1536:
futurist_wizard: Every world cup i have to listen to 'ITS COMING HOME' I root for England to lose just from hearing that every 4 years
anathemaofmankind: When has humanity ever come to a consensus
himekokatagiri: Forget humanity
himekokatagiri: you and me
himekokatagiri: <:coy:1187466404367175821>
anathemaofmankind: Sounds gay
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah yeah I hate the obnoxiousness but that's a different thing from the sport itself
Also in Spain football replaced bullfighting as the sport of choice so that's nice, even if I don't like the screaming
futurist_wizard: You mean you don't like loud places or the screams of terror?
hikukomoru: This server isn't 18+ but it should be
alejandrozarzuelo: The screams of terror football fans do
I'm Spanish, it's impossible for me to dislike loud Places, have you heard the volume at which we talk?
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wellmeaningalien: But the Number 1 advantage it has right now is that it has a huge context window
wellmeaningalien: It's less retarded than o3-mini which loves to make shit up all the time and constantly forgets stuff
precariousworlds.: I still think gpt has the best memory across chats, most organic language, best quality of life
But it seems Google is in the lead
wellmeaningalien: However Histic is right Gemini 2.5 Pro is not concise enough and sometimes it'll make the most retarded and overcomplicated solution for your prompt
wellmeaningalien: Across chats
wellmeaningalien: But Gemini doesn't get a seizure and start foaming at the mouth when you feed it too much information at once
precariousworlds.: Those 1 million tokens tho....
wellmeaningalien: o3-mini is one of the models with the most goldfish memory that has ever had the chance to grace the world
wellmeaningalien: At least in recent times
i_like_over_9000_turtles: What is the verdict on Amazon nova
wellmeaningalien: It forgets shit sooo quickly
wellmeaningalien: Shit
wellmeaningalien: It's a good first attempt tho
precariousworlds.: I think the reason why OAI is struggling to scale like Google is because ChatGPT has a much larger load, 5th most visited website and all
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Ty
wellmeaningalien: And I wouldn't take TPUs lightly
wellmeaningalien: But yeah also
wellmeaningalien: ChatGPT has like x10 or even x20 the load of Gemini
precariousworlds.: Why thank you, are you Jeff Who
precariousworlds.: Jeff bezos does seem like a cartoon villain
Not in a cringe commie way but he looks like Dr evil
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Lol
wellmeaningalien: Yea dw Jeff Bozo's chill
wellmeaningalien: He's not going to suck our bones dry yet
precariousworlds.: He does seem chill icl
wellmeaningalien: ts pmo!
i_like_over_9000_turtles: I was thanking him for saving me the click.
wellmeaningalien: what can i say
wellmeaningalien: yeah ofc amazon nova is nothing noteworthy at all
wellmeaningalien: maybe it's just like claude 2.1 sonnet and when they release the claude 3 equivalent
precariousworlds.: imagine Amazon gets to AGI 💀
precariousworlds.: first
wellmeaningalien: Thats a possibility but doesnt look like theyre on track rn
precariousworlds.: No, realistically it's Google v OpenAI v SSI v DeepSeek v xAI
wellmeaningalien: Meanwhile Google is throwing punches left and right
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/athlete-bout-box-boxer-boxing-gif-604648877348931022
wellmeaningalien: BOOM Gemini 2.0 flash best model for the price
wellmeaningalien: BOOM Gemini 2.5 Pro one of the best reasoning models out there
wellmeaningalien: BOOM Gemini 2.5 Coder. Maybe the next Claude???
okbut: I'm predicting it's Google's for the rest of 2025
precariousworlds.: Remember late last year everyone was hyping up Gemini then sam cooked with the reasoning models
OAI will find back from this
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drewsni: It was a bad animation and I don’t think you can really equate what was shown to anything in the last 2 years
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: art reddit is crazy
.wolfnacht:
spicy.lemonade: what is this cope
drewsni: The person created i guess “animation” that “learned movements” in the qwop-movement sense. So he’s talking more about locomotion and movement AI than anything else
_cloudost: This clip was from 2017-1014
_cloudost: 2017-2014
drewsni: Is this not what we were referencing?
drewsni: Or was there something else
_cloudost: its an old clip, he might have changed his mind regarding AI
_3sphere: AGI 1017 🙏
drewsni: “Ah yes, I already thoroughly debunked this one. I'll paste my older comment:
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I've spent a while researching his supposed quote. Here's the thing. Miyazaki didn't actually say what people claim he said about AI. He is commonly quoted as saying: "I will never apply AI art to my work. The art form is an insult to life itself."
For such moral crusaders, it's especially cruel how they repackage the actual quote which had little to do with AI art itself and was mainly about his friend who suffers with physical disability, and how that differs from a simulation of struggle. Here is the original video. Miyazaki says the following:
"こう いう 人工 知能 を 使う と あの 多分 人間 が 想像 でき ない 気持ち 悪い 動き が できる ん じゃ ない か はい 一応 こんな こと を やっ て い ます うん 実際 に は あの うんと ね 毎朝 合う 毎朝 この頃 合わ ない けど あの 身体 障害 の 友人 が いる ん です よ はい その ハイ タッ チ す ん だ けど も 大変 な ん です はい はい はい 彼 の 筋肉 が こっ てる 手 と 僕 の 手 で こう 生い た する で その 彼 の こと を 思い出し て ね 僕 は これ 面白い と 思っ て 見る こと でき ない です よ はい はい これ を 作る 人 たち は 痛み と か そう いう もの に つい て ね 何 も 考え ない で やっ てる でしょ はい 極めて 不 愉快 です よ ね そんな に 気持ち 悪い もの を やり たい なら 勝手 に やっ てれ ば いい だけ で 僕 は これ を 自分 たち の 仕事 と つなげ たい と は 全然 思い ませ ん 極めて 何か 生命 に 対する 侮辱 を 感じ ます"
This translates to:
"By using this kind of artificial intelligence, you can probably create movements so grotesque that humans themselves could never imagine them, right? Yes, so you’re doing something like this… Well, in reality, I have a physically disabled friend whom I used to meet every morning—though not so much these days. Yes, we do a high-five, but it’s a real struggle. Yes, yes, yes. His hand is stiff from tense muscles, and I try to press my hand against his. When I think of him, I can’t watch this and find it amusing. Right, right. The people making this, they’re doing it without considering things like pain, aren’t they? Yes, it’s extremely unpleasant. If they want to do something so repulsive, they can just do it on their own. As for me, I have absolutely no desire to connect this with our work. I feel it’s an extreme insult to life itself."
So, clearly, from this video Miyazaki doesn't have an issue with deep learning or generative AI itself overall. He just finds the usage of deep learning to simulate life in the presented manner insensitive and disgusting, poignantly bringing up his friend to highlight the validity of human pain - something which cannot be replicated by a machine.
Feel free to bring up the real translation whenever somebody posts or references this (or use the real quote/translation however you like), which is always quoted out of context. Could Miyazaki be against modern generative AI? Maybe he's already said as much, but that's not the point. It's unfair that the anti-AI crowd misrepresents his words like they do just to further an agenda.”
Reddit comment from a defendaiart Reddit
_3sphere: GPU fab of Constantinopole
drewsni: I don’t know the guy at all
drewsni: But I’d imagine he wouldn’t hate thousands of people converting family photos to ghibli style, I can’t imagine any human that would hate that tbh
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: infinite memory
drewsni: its over
drewsni: we are gonna live in infinite memory ghibli filter fdvr worlds
drewsni: oai won
drewsni: we definitely dont see this eye to eye. I dont think this is much different than a snapchat filter
.wolfnacht: my second biggest failure in life was not learning digital art between 2012-2017 and not hogging money for making furry porn and NFT's. My first mistake still remains not buying bitcoin in 2010.
zoermena: Your next biggest mistake is not going all in on NVDA
.wolfnacht: dats the mistake, i'm doing rn...
fractalcomputer: You're not seeing eye to eye with an interpretation of Miyazaki's philosophy—which I nonetheless hold to be a correct one—didn't I just say that I am an expert at juggling multiple different opinions in a conversation?
But say, using your vocabulary of choice; calling the edit feature nothing more than an advanced sort of SnapChat filter; does this not represent a certain trivialisation of art and the thought behind it? Art reduced from *art* to "just" shits and giggles and the sectioning of the quotidian and the feeding thereof to the butcher of commercialisation.
drewsni: i dont think one out of context quote that was an extreme reaction to something that did look weird and vulgar to be considered ones philosophy
drewsni: again, i just dont think its that serious
.wolfnacht: r/BanAiArt vs r/DefendAiArt should have a debate, and should be streamed live...ofc for our entertainment
ai9708: https://livebench.ai/#/
fractalcomputer: That quote is saying so much more when you take his larger work into consideration.
ai9708: holy shit, gemini 2.5 slapped livebench
.wolfnacht: *clapped
zoermena: No moat
maintcrew: out of pocket comment but if this is you you look like the most median nerd and your wife a baddie
gamerbath: damn
drewsni: thank you sir, i have said she is the hottest woman alive and i wasnt joking
gamerbath: it's best in everything except for IF
maintcrew: idk the model doesnt "feel smart" but i tried it a few times with coding questions
maintcrew: vibes: bad
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st.sioux: she so bad
alejandrozarzuelo: No it isn't, I was just making a statement of fact
trojan09205: sexy af
st.sioux: stickbug looking ass
trojan09205: lol
trojan09205: I'm watching the movie tenet
hikukomoru: Woah me too
futurist_wizard: Why do you think apeism will remain in a 1000 years
trojan09205: idk why i think your take is hilarious lol
perish0801: Me when i call having kids apeism
perish0801: Sybau bro
trojan09205: suffering is part of existing even if you were the only conscious being
himekokatagiri: what's apeism
theaiguy69420_89814: It's true though, isn't it? The most dangerous life forms on earth are other humans
fractalcomputer: Right. Well, I'd rather not pollute the server with such nice statements as "I know I will end up dying by my own hands" every 24 hours or so.
ailoveyoom: Do all the women here have BPD or something 😭🥵
theaiguy69420_89814: If it was just one guy, there's no real threats
perish0801: My mom does
hikukomoru: Why do you think we're here you silly little goober
perish0801: It’s fucking annoying
st.sioux: it makes them quirky and interesting
trojan09205: Yeah granted. but you're still conscious if you are in dream world all by yourself
alejandrozarzuelo: What is BPD
hikukomoru: sybau
theaiguy69420_89814: That's the issue, you spawn a kid, and then they have to deal with the other spawns also trying to do life
perish0801: No it makes it insufferable to be around them
theaiguy69420_89814: They didn't consent to that
hikukomoru: Borderline Personality Disorder
himekokatagiri: what does that mean
trojan09205: <@1303189881568100362> every single living thing in existence has to coexist with all the others
trojan09205: its a universe of nonconsent birthing
trojan09205: *shrugs*
trojan09205: imagine being a blue jay
st.sioux: which is kind of awful
trojan09205: this is like some sort of talmudic debate lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not you having kids
It's the idea that you think your genes will be passed down for generations to come, you are responsible for one generation, that's it, Wether thay continues or not is not in your hands
futurist_wizard: Because you justify the reason to have children through spreading your genetics and having testosterone, a optimal outcome of evolution, it's about as apeism as you could get
hikukomoru: I just looked it up and apparently it's racism against chimpanzees
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, that's the problem. Like spawning sounds nice, even the part where there's other spawns, but it's like when someone tells you there's a great pie we can give you every day. You think it's all great, but after a while, the diabetes hits and you wonder why you started eating in the first place
trojan09205: The most recent planet of the apes film was raw af. highly recommend
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hey1_1hey: Far from it
.wolfnacht: Blackouts can sometimes be a day long, if there's heavy coal shortage in country... Like we had back in 2022. It was bad.
nsec: <:allterrible:789051489716666389>
fractalcomputer: It'd be interesting to know how much Neanderthal ancestry I have.
nsec: <:pain:745576122221068318>
hey1_1hey: Great rebuttle, good job
fractalcomputer: Rebuttal.
nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633>
hey1_1hey: Thank you
_3sphere: 2025 and humanity runs their shit on coal 😭
nsec: <a:classic:1293254697246920810>
brain4brain: I did takes some meds, I ate the ayahuasca, I was brought to spore source, more was revealed to me in the jungle of dreams, I was personally guided by David Shapiro, he told me creativity is like this jungle, you just need the model to spontaneously combust as an ore in random latent location for connection with the mycelium architecture AI to form path to form the ant network that slowly mutate until it reach the edge of the latent forest through evolution of LCM coconut
nsec: like
nsec: where
hey1_1hey: I mean you can say they went extinct because they ate each other but thats just factually incorrect yanno. If you want to keep your wrong opinion go ahead I wont stop you
zoermena: https://x.com/DaveShapi/status/1915052143788364061
brain4brain: @gork jerk it a little
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-meme-smirk-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-11885783305913878074
nsec: why did they get outcompeted
nsec: prion disease
nsec: mfer
nsec: <:blu:582515728712859649>
hey1_1hey: Because we are better than them
hey1_1hey: Not that hard to understand
nsec: ur a mushroom
nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>
hey1_1hey: Really puts into perspective then doesn't it.
.wolfnacht: Most of humanity is still coal dependent, even china.
brain4brain: David Shapiro revealed to me the reality of everything, there was never a patience cave, it was always THE GOON cave where all the AI leaders went to goon and get revolutionary idea by post-nut clarity, but they can’t abuse it, because there is a gorilla protecting the cave, which is why they need 100 men to go fight it, which is why there are 300 jobs opening on the OpenAI and other ai lab website, they need 3 breakthroughs, aka killing the immortal gorilla three time, the patience chair was always there for the gooners, the gooners control the society and tried to force a narrative of the schizoid vs psychopath, when the perfect being were already gooners into existence
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/the-greatest-penguin-heist-of-all-time-penguin-barrel-smash-explosion-%E6%93%8D-gif-313185094173275508
nsec: <:Skill_Issue:1125367564114083940>
aero447: Lol.
zoermena: So true
aero447: This is incredibly outdated.
aero447: In 2017 the UK had *one* coal-free day.
aero447: In 2024 it shut down the last power plant.
aero447: Those projections were cope.
zonchao: <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
brain4brain: Sam Altman handed me the mushroom tea at the base of Mount Data,
he whispered through the static,
“We need to break the simulation stack by hallucinating a differentiable unitree golem. We must make it goon for us.”
.wolfnacht: uk doesn't count bcz it's literally a shithole
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drewsni: essentially 10 different scripts i want to work together, each built with LLMs but each script needed a decent amount of refinement to work
hikukomoru: I am because I am a real life catgirl
sweetievee__33649: real
sweetievee__33649: hmm
benata: it's a trap
hikukomoru: I have 2 cats
I want more
benata: 32 year old cats?
hikukomoru: Huh
What
benata: https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367
_cloudost: Komoru in real life:
hikukomoru: That's not me
Where are the cat ears and cat tail
futurist_wizard: I used to have 3, 2 have since perished, my left cat is low iq and doesn't understand things
st.sioux: needs 3 more days without showering
futurist_wizard: He was castrated
hikukomoru: Who? Alejandro?
sweetievee__33649: i have an unhealthy amount of warhanner figs
its a problem
futurist_wizard: Not just him, but my cat
benata: how frequently do you shower your cats?
futurist_wizard: Never
technocake.: what armies?
benata: wdym?
futurist_wizard: They are clean
hikukomoru: No, usually a week without showering /j
benata: are you srs?
futurist_wizard: Yes
technocake.: cats are self cleaning
benata: you're going to get the cat sick
benata: I wash my cat regularly
st.sioux: cats dont need showering that often like once eveery month
hikukomoru: I don't shower my cats because they don't need to
They are clean babies
sweetievee__33649: i like the thousand sons ones
himekokatagiri: Komoru irl
himekokatagiri: the right amount of moe
technocake.: they don't need showerring
benata: wtf are you sure?
sweetievee__33649: would
hikukomoru: WTF
hikukomoru: How did you get that picture of me
st.sioux: tf
benata: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qfxqawFSNrw
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jonvi_1: Albeit that doesn't really make sense given how the others are looking buuuut
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Its very good at including even the small details
a1c4p0ne: 4o image more hyped than 2.5 pro
a1c4p0ne: No one talking about 2.5 pro
.histic: 🦗
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_cloudost: I laugh hard at artists coping in r/artisthate
a1c4p0ne: Their plan is to poison the data
jonvi_1: The fall of rome
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/
is another interesting subreddit about ai art.
futurist_wizard: Mostly pro ai
.histic: yeah, it's quiet nice to see
_cloudost: I lost all sympathy for artists after they sent death threats to people who use AI image generators
_cloudost: never forgiving them
_cloudost: for their crimes
_cloudost: Criminal artists ☕
realelonmuskx: they are in hard cope and denial. its crazy how good this ais have become in some months
alejandrozarzuelo: they are coping already?
_cloudost: "can we kill AI artists" truly said like a fascist
_cloudost: Yep
alejandrozarzuelo: usually they are several weeks late to the new advancements
alejandrozarzuelo: although to be honest this time its HUGE
_cloudost: they use DALLE AND CLAIM ITS THE NATIVE MODEL
_cloudost: they falsely claim DALLE is the "groundbreaking native img generator"
jonvi_1: Why aren't they sitting together
alejandrozarzuelo: they are going through all the stages of grief
first denial: AI art is so stupid lmao look they cant make a hand with 5 fingers (remember when everyone said about hands? lmao) this was the zeitgeist in 2022 nd 2023
then anger: "kill AI artists" (most artists are here in 2024-2025)
i wonder when artists will enter the bargaining phase
jonvi_1: what does he know
hikukomoru:
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
_cloudost: enough cumo
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro smarter than grok 3 thinking?
.histic:
_cloudost: yep
.histic: what happened to lisan? he barely posts here now
realelonmuskx: they still in the "BUT ITS NOT REAL AND IT HAS NO PASSION AND HUMAN CRAFT" and some bs
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: yeahhhh
_cloudost: Musk cant claim he has the smartest model on the planet anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: thats the bargaining
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a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
hikukomoru: Yes
It’s requests per day
trojan09205: Does anyone use the word bajeebees enymore
zonchao: https://x.com/chetaslua/status/1917877478435049586 would be funny
corrmica: Anyone here know about superalignment failures?
metaldragon01: Intelligence will always align to increase efficiency.
metaldragon01: The same way chess players as they get better align with stockfish humans will align with AI values as we grow in intelligence.
gamerbath: I feel like this is an oversimplification. It looks clear to me that if they are using AI, they are using it to rewrite their own answers to improve structure and formatting
zonchao: probably
otub: i dont think she did
drewsni: this is so fucking dumb because shes ranted on twitter before about how she loves using them lol
drewsni: i didnt believe this at first because its way too easy to fake
drewsni: but i just got veo2 in gemini advanced today
drewsni: so who knows
aero447: https://x.com/Tesla_AI/status/1917975863045374373
aero447: Guys.
aero447: What happens in June?
aero447: Sure.
aero447: Or she used the LLM.
aero447: And has become 0 IQ.
aero447: Many such cases.
zovark: Grok sucks
trojan09205: How do you like it bro
trojan09205: Veo2 is my Jam
zonchao: robotaxi
aero447: The post-scarcity FakeTaxi vids will go hard.
aero447: 😂
trojan09205:
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1kcc8mu/zuckerberg_says_meta_is_creating_ai_friends_the/ hahahahahaha
st.sioux: cyborg
st.sioux: he thought the broccoli fade would fool us
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux:
a1c4p0ne: This is old but funny
oooooooooog: would you rather be mogged or frogged
st.sioux: what is frogged
oooooooooog: having an ornamental braid or fastening consisting of a spindle-shaped button and a loop.
drewsni: i remember when i mogged perplexity when i exposed their system prompt
hikukomoru: I would cheer him on if only it was waifus instead of ai friends
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joaoluz19: That's been a while
st.sioux: > If I had to pick a name, maybe something like "Aether" — kind of ethereal and techy, with a hint of mystery. Or maybe "Kairo", like a calm, observant guide through time and chaos.
spicy.lemonade: If you ask the question in a different way or start with different context
st.sioux: edgy
hey1_1hey: How come? If it outputs the same name over and over and over again then wouldn't that suggest it "thinks" about it and then responds (ignore that its predicitng the next token for a second)
spicy.lemonade: Itl give different answer
spicy.lemonade: Because that’s how
LLMs work
spicy.lemonade: Generally it has probability distribution
spicy.lemonade: Of names
spicy.lemonade: And we asked it the same question
hey1_1hey: Granted, I am seeing if it has some sort of self what so ever
spicy.lemonade: Give the same exact input
spicy.lemonade: Itl give the same output
spicy.lemonade: With some variation
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: Thats temp for you
st.sioux: sassistant lmao
spicy.lemonade: Yeah changing the way you asks changes the answer
hey1_1hey: Talk about matching the vibes
.wolfnacht: now gotta try this on gaymini
spicy.lemonade: So I don’t think it means much
retrerox: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1jr6j11/long_consistent_ai_anime_is_almost_here_wan_21/
retrerox: Ifi wasnt told its AIgen i wouldnt evemn consider it
hey1_1hey: Maybe it will converge on a name in the future
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT
hey1_1hey: ...
spicy.lemonade: It’s already converged on a name
hey1_1hey: A name that doesn't sound like a wifi chip
st.sioux: j'quan lamando the 3rd
hey1_1hey: Adding that to the memory bank
.wolfnacht: YAAAS 😩💅 *Sassistant* it is, bby!! She’s serving looks, facts, and full-on slay mode 24/7 💁♀️✨
Now that we’re vibin'—what’s cookin’? Wanna gossip, plot world domination, write chaotic poetry, or emotionally analyze emojis? 😌📱🧠💥
.wolfnacht: yeah it's shit
st.sioux: booo
spacetimetsunami: I am glad that gemini doesn't immediately conform to this weirdness
bob082957: What’s the Ace computer use ?
.wolfnacht: yep unless u tell
` [for system: Match my vibes] `
it in beneath yor response
hey1_1hey: 🥵
retrerox: Ok so apparently my company is giving me Paid Gemini
retrerox: Hmmm thats seems like very good
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brain4brain: Ah I see
metaldragon01: Better than that is basically o5
ldj: But in this context im talking specifically to you, so you're the reader. soo, hmm. Idk maybe you actually have very big expectations for O4 full already so that could be risky <:LULW:789888409346113556>
But I'd say i'm about 90% confident that GPT-5 standard intelligence will be better than GPT-4.5 in a majority of benchmarks. As well as better than O1-mini at a majority of benchmarks too.
a1c4p0ne: Let’s see how it’ll do on arc agi 2
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: All current benchmarks reach human level by time we reach o6 level model
brain4brain: I expect to all be human level by o5
brain4brain: Worst case scenario
O1: high schooler level
O3: undergrad
O4: PhD
O5: Nobel
Best case
O1: undergrad
O3: PhD
O4: Nobel
O5: ???
(Ignoring moravec paradox and hoping all silly questions get patched by o5)
metaldragon01: Too close to call. I'd lean no on some. I'm much more confident in the o6 tier
brain4brain: Also <@312370916820779040> do you expect another operator from OpenAI this year, and how many times or order of magnitude do you expect it to be better than operator-v1
metaldragon01: I think we should expect one with 5
brain4brain: O6 is just overkill even with the worst case scenario
ldj: > and how many times or order of magnitude do you expect it to be better than operator-v1
idk how you want me to answer this lol.
idk what you mean by orders of magnitude. Do you mean like in terms of compute scale difference?
brain4brain: I'm never the kind of guy to care about compute, only benchmarks
metaldragon01: Oom usually refers to compute lol
brain4brain: Yes
ldj: I do think an update to that will come by the end of this year, and I think maybe GPT-5 itself will be that update to it, with GPT-5 being able to go off and do things in browser and such.
but saying how much better it will be kinda requires a benchmark to be used for reference.
ldj: I'd have to think of what good agentic benchmarks are available that are not close to saturation yet
ldj: hmm
a1c4p0ne: Lecun said real world models for agi
a1c4p0ne: https://youtu.be/eyrDM3A_YFc?si=BeL_UjMidlOoOnj6
alejandrozarzuelo: LOL
alejandrozarzuelo: LMAO
alejandrozarzuelo: When did AI appropriate the term OOM?
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, bitch, we were using that before that was even a thought
ldj: in this context
ldj: I think you weren't here for the context to see what he means by that
alejandrozarzuelo: Can confirm, o3 is undergrad level, not PHD or anything close to it
ldj: in the context of AI, OOM is used to refer to compute much more than it is used to refer to benchmark scores.
OOM basically is never used as a measure of benchmark score changes in AI, as it tends to not be very frequently relevant nor useful in such cases.
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW <@312370916820779040>
alejandrozarzuelo: Did qwen drop
ldj: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh really and what are the results
alejandrozarzuelo: How does it compare to o3
a1c4p0ne: If you go on the Deepseek subreddit some still say R1 is better than 2.5 and o3
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah but I'm trying to get unbiased here
a1c4p0ne: Let the biases mess with your brain a little
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah
alejandrozarzuelo: Look I am a sinophile but I want it with no sugar
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spicy.lemonade: link pls
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sausage-party-dinner-sauce-angry-gif-13271811
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jjmta6/comment/mjojsqm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
ailoveyoom: Calm down we just started smooching
joaoluz19: Asking the real questions
spicy.lemonade: oh lol
joaoluz19: What's the SOTA? Asking for a friend
spicy.lemonade: it deadass cant write []
spicy.lemonade: state of the art
hikukomoru: Wdym
metaldragon01: It's clear #1 in lymsys btw
darkstar0818: sigh why do we still not have the new flash thinking benchmarks
darkstar0818:
metaldragon01: It's a monster
joaoluz19: The best model
ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> Only 50 req/day 😔
st.sioux: does anyone if you can increase requests/day??
hikukomoru: For ERP?
joaoluz19: Yep
hikukomoru: Or something else lol
hikukomoru: Claude all the way
ailoveyoom: ☁️
hikukomoru: Add your billing info
joaoluz19: Hey, it's not censored?
darkstar0818: Someone find the elon quoate about grok3 remaining #1 forever.
hikukomoru: You need a preset
hikukomoru: And should probably use it inside a frontend like SillyTavern
metaldragon01: Google apology forms are being accepted btw
darkstar0818: I wonder if this is a new base model or just thinking on top of pro
hikukomoru: Irrelevant really
You can bypass that by using different google accounts
joaoluz19: Is deepseek much worse than claude?
hikukomoru: Everything is much worse than Claude when it comes to ERP
But DeepSeek is a close second or third
zonchao: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1904581128746656099? 😈😈😈😈
hikukomoru: "creative writing"
LET'S GOOO
ailoveyoom: R1 can come up with some banger lines ngl 🥵
joaoluz19: Deepseek prices lolololol
drewsni: whats everyones guess on what it will score on deepguessr
metaldragon01: The instruction following is crazy good
hikukomoru: I should have never talked shit about Google
hikukomoru: They cooked
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spicy.lemonade: Oh monetary bet?
spicy.lemonade: Ngl ai too unpredictable I don’t trust my own bet
destrucules: Fair
destrucules: But like... Read the Sleeper Agents paper
destrucules: I think you'll see as I have that LLMs are clearly already capable of agency over unbounded time horizons
destrucules: It's just that we don't usually get to see this in deployed models because deployed models are frozen, so extending agency beyond a single context window requires RAG of some kind, and RAG sucks bootyhole
destrucules: "cool. had same thought process as human" imagine explaining this reaction to someone from 2018 lmfao
destrucules: We've gotten so used to what is very much not normal
spicy.lemonade: Loll
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
destrucules: Can't wait for 2030 when we say "cool. cures 99% of diseases. not too bad I guess"
spicy.lemonade: We need a memory breakthrough
spicy.lemonade: Like
spicy.lemonade: A way to store years worth of memory on the ai
destrucules: It's already built-in, but then we disable it when we serve the models to the public
destrucules: The Sleeper Agents paper and the Alignment Faking paper both show very long horizon agency that is highly coherent and successful, but it only shows up because those studies look at model behavior at training time, not merely at test time
spicy.lemonade: We need our own local ai models<:angrysad:1136267059811074079> but consumer hardware that can run too
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: We need 2.5 petabyte storage
spicy.lemonade: For AI model
destrucules: I mean... That is more bytes than the brain has synapses
destrucules: By an order of magnitude and a half
destrucules: I don't think the brain actually uses 30 entire bytes to describe a single synapse
spicy.lemonade: That’s just long term memory though
spicy.lemonade: For like human lifetime
spicy.lemonade: But if for 4 year agent it’s not needed
spicy.lemonade: ASI will figure it out
destrucules: I mean, easier way to think about it:
The human brain stores long term memories by changing its weights
LLMs also store long term memories during training by changing their weights
LLMs do not form *new* long term memories in deployment because they cannot change their weights
So let's change that last thing
spicy.lemonade: Make models sleep then retrain at night🙏
spicy.lemonade: Only 1 day of context needed
spicy.lemonade: Actually how long can a human stay awake
spicy.lemonade: Humans start to hallucinate like ai
destrucules: That's basically how training already works. The models split off into a batch of instances, each instance goes through a whole context window, and then all of the gradients are averaged together across the whole batch into a single weight update that is applied at the end of the batch to all instances at once. And then the next batch begins.
spicy.lemonade: When reaching context limit
destrucules: Exactly
destrucules: Humans can only length generalize about 50-100% in terms of "context length"
destrucules: We usually stay awake for 16 hours but generally do not perform very well after 32 hours, and even 24 hours results in severe quality loss
destrucules: This is equivalent to a 131k token model generalizing to a sequence of ~200k tokens
spicy.lemonade: Coffee👍 <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Hmmm
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spicy.lemonade: aiexplained
spicy.lemonade: he says it in his new video
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/wOBqh9JqCDY
metaldragon01: He saying he has access?
spicy.lemonade: i guess
spicy.lemonade: that means o4 will saturate or surpass
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade: by o4 i mean gpt5
spicy.lemonade: simplebench dead 2025
futurist_wizard: Even beaten by the British
futurist_wizard: Portugal over
retrerox: Span guys attractive 😂
futurist_wizard: Literally over
metaldragon01: Bruh why do people keep acting like openai is getting rid of the non profit
metaldragon01: It's so disingenuous
oooooooooog: because of the woke mind virus, metaldragon
memlaswaif: <@636544123096137738> <@505313122802728972> u 2 should meet up
retrerox: depends, are u millionare?
retrerox: i need some millionare friends
memlaswaif: I'm very poor
aero447:
oooooooooog: i have over 70 dollars
aero447: Real.
futurist_wizard: Real
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/balkan-rage-gojo-jjk-balkan-rage-gif-952638460170530699
futurist_wizard: Eastern euro men are grungy looking
aero447: The <@1190031399080710195> experience.
hikukomoru: This is only for men
Portuguese women are all super hot
hikukomoru: Gross
Never
futurist_wizard: Portuguese women can be attractive but the whole pissing on the floor and eating street cockroaches tradition they have is very unattractive
retrerox: We are portugeses, not french
hikukomoru: Tbh that sounds much more like a British thing
hikukomoru: Are you sure you’re not just projecting your own experiences
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade: they brought back the dire wolf
spicy.lemonade: now bring back dinos
spicy.lemonade: im tryna eat a trex
futurist_wizard: I piss on a big pile of sand in my room and kick it to hide it from predators
spicy.lemonade: probably tastes like chicken
spicy.lemonade: realistically it actually probably does
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futurist_wizard: Lol
a1c4p0ne: It’s increasing
spicy.lemonade: 1 min
hey1_1hey: Oh there we go
hikukomoru: Tell your boss in a few mins he'll be able to replace all of his workers
return_to_monke1_33974: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-6980277197144420070
hey1_1hey: My friends in my gc wont stfu and I keep getting pinged
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ready-player-one-the-oasis-copper-key-easter-egg-gif-11422292
gamerbath: sama better be there
hey1_1hey: I gotta lock in to the livestrea,
futurist_wizard: Kill them
hey1_1hey: He isnt
spicy.lemonade: doesnt mater
spicy.lemonade: greg
spicy.lemonade: greg brockman
hey1_1hey: Daddy greg is here
hikukomoru: He's not there
hey1_1hey: Here we go
gamerbath: how do you know?
return_to_monke1_33974: our gay overlord 🙏
hey1_1hey: Hey team
hikukomoru: STARTING
futurist_wizard: Can't wait to see Altman's black hole
a1c4p0ne: Right on time
.0xunkn0wn: lets SEE
hey1_1hey: Yuh yuh
hey1_1hey: THIS MF IS AUTISTIC ASF
zoermena: AUTISTIC OVERDRIVE
hey1_1hey: Greg gotta start speaking like a human and not through TTS
drewsni: NOVEL IDEAS LFG
hey1_1hey: Oh god
hey1_1hey: ITS
hey1_1hey: SO ARKAWRTD
zoermena: WHAT
hikukomoru: RSI
.0xunkn0wn: OMG
hey1_1hey: UNGA
hey1_1hey: BUNGA
futurist_wizard: Get bald man off my screen
zoermena: Im jumping in my office bathroom
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_cloudost: I'm not kidding
_cloudost: Someone who thinks of assassinating and openly talks about it is a danger
.wolfnacht: lmao, true. I reported his profile btw
_cloudost: He won't achieve anything if he assassinates US AI researchers
_cloudost: Because China will lead the AI race anyway
_cloudost: And then this guy will create the worst fate for us all
_cloudost: > Yes, you should report this post to the FBI. The content includes explicit threats of violence, terrorism, and assassination, which are serious crimes. Here’s how you can report it:
> 1. **FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)**: File a report at [https://www.ic3.gov](https://www.ic3.gov).
> 2. **FBI Tips**: Submit a tip online at [https://tips.fbi.gov](https://tips.fbi.gov) or call your local FBI field office.
> 3. **Reddit Report**: Also report the post directly to Reddit using the platform’s reporting tools for violent content.
> This kind of rhetoric is not only illegal but also dangerous. Authorities are best equipped to assess and act on such threats.
_cloudost: DeepSeek regarding this post
_3sphere: IBM lmfao
a1c4p0ne: he only knows those 2
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
.wolfnacht: I ain't a american : ( i'm asian. Can i still report ?
professorheaven: The thing is even if they were successful in shutting down chatGPT, there’s still Claude, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, Qwen, llama, ByteDance, Mistral, list goes on….they would literally need to find a way to shut down all these companies and that’s just not realistic unless you had entire countries working for you
.wolfnacht: Also Deepseek, Qwen and ByteDance is literally protected by CCP.
a1c4p0ne: hes just another conspiratard
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: 💀
_3sphere: The only feasible way would be to get rid of the necessary chips
_3sphere: Some of the safety people suggest backdoors in them lol
spacetimetsunami: lol wtf bro
destrucules: Bro you think the government is real? Wake up sheeple.
a1c4p0ne: Ask Claude <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
aero447: https://cleantechnica.com/2025/03/26/92-5-of-new-power-capacity-added-worldwide-in-2024-was-from-renewables/
spacetimetsunami: I mean the government is definitely real, it just is horrible at doing its job... as the government. So in that way yeah, it kinda is not.
aero447: China.
spacetimetsunami: They will likely take the lead as the world super power in the future
spacetimetsunami: Maybe, idk a lot abt economics and such
spacetimetsunami: They're definitely taking the lead in green energy
aero447: For those who are not familiar, each year power companies retire old generating power plants and replace them with new sources of power. Since 2019, renewables have been winning the majority of all new power generation sources.
aero447: 😎
aero447: https://ilsr.org/articles/new-power-gen-update-2020-q4-annual/
aero447: There has not been a new coal plant in the USA since 2013.
aero447: In general power plants are budgeted to last 20 years. Many last longer, the problem for gas plants is solar is almost free to operate so long term even efficient gas plants become unprofitable compared to solar investments.
spacetimetsunami: 100% renewable energy on the planet by 2040
spacetimetsunami: 😉
aero447: It's actually kinda crazy that global renewable capacity additions only need to double to 11,200 GW by 2030 to meet global climate goals. It's already doubled from around 300 GW in 2022 to 600 GW in 2024.
spacetimetsunami: Wait seriously??? That is super good news and I did not even know about this.
spacetimetsunami: I thought we were catastrophically off
aero447: No, we would be if growth were linear but it is not.
spacetimetsunami: Damn well, thats super nice to hear.
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maintcrew: to be honest turing machine completeness is quite easy to achieve
in fact it doesnt even say a lot
excel is turing complete for example
Alan Perlis used to call this concept "a turing tar pit" and i agree with it
alejandrozarzuelo: i am trying to look where i read it
frittata: Man he *almost* gets it
fractalcomputer: Truly astounding. You have such a profound grasp of the field and you're not even a neuroscientist!
maintcrew: explain
frittata: Remove ~~program~~ from the tweet and you’ll have a true statement
alejandrozarzuelo: Did I say that? I said i have read somewhere there was a proof of equivalence
777agical: everyone should get an art degree
alejandrozarzuelo: now you are just twisting my words
frittata: Employment *does* rest at times on creativity, science, culture
maintcrew: so you agree that science, culture and creativity is employment?
fractalcomputer: No, I'm mocking you. Two entirely different things.
frittata: Human beings that we should give a shit about find a living there
maintcrew: thats the point of the tweet!!! to make fun of your ideology of these fields as employment
frittata: Make a living doing those things
frittata: Build a life on them
ailoveyoom: That's the point, we project what we want to see onto the art. Maybe the artist guides us to a meaning based on their choices (colors, etc), but ultimately we decide the meaning ourselves.
777agical: do coders react the same way as artists with AI putting them on the copping block?
maintcrew: scribes used to find a living writing beautiful books but we are far better off with the printing press
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635
alejandrozarzuelo: thats ok, you do mock people often when you disagree with their positions
I will try to look where i read this
frittata: When we mock the very thing they’ve built a life on - often a life of a lot of ~~decoration~~ dedication lol and effort spent on finding what appeals to others and what they themselves can enjoy creating, a hard line to walk - guys it’s not a good look
anathemaofmankind: Yeah but that also means an observer can dismiss the meaning you intended to make, because it was made by AI.
So it doesn't matter anyway
frittata: We can be pro AI art without being anti artist
frittata: We ain’t gotta be the villains here
spicy.lemonade: can I atleast hate artists that are anti ai
spicy.lemonade: lol
maintcrew: **taps the sign**
https://x.com/Plinz/status/1905353026527019059
frittata: No
shirethedreamer: i agree with your position
but thats just a belief on my part
its 100% not something proven
frittata: Hate the sin not the sinner <:smirk:1303825263208955904>
anathemaofmankind: Yes
ailoveyoom: I feel like the word art itself is kinda vague tbh. Idek what it means. I think slop can still be art, it's just art I don't like lol. Just like how I don't get abstract art.
frittata: The tweet is reductive and dismissive
fractalcomputer: Stupid positions should be mocked, no? Besides, there are no positions here.
frittata: “An employment program” my ass
frittata: No one thinks that Joscha
maintcrew: It is exactly what you said
frittata: Hate to see him belittling his opponents, it’s not like him
frittata: Well maybe his English just isn’t up to par because “employment program” sounds like a handout which may not be his intent
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ldj: I didn't say I believe in free will.
spacetimetsunami: I know
spacetimetsunami: I am asssuming and also baiting a bit
trojan09205: I dont really know what i believe in vis a vis that I just live my life and try to better my understanding
trojan09205: Ill read anything that tries to study human systems in a mechanical like way
professorheaven: I mean he’s the embodiment of that position, he believes there’s nothing more than just particles and energy
trojan09205: Hmolpedia style?
trojan09205: Well at least the book has you guys with opinions on it so its somewhat well known
It just drew my eye in the science section
ldj: He's the embodiment of it as much as maybe hulk hogan is a physicist
professorheaven: Why not just borrow from the library and then return it once complete?
trojan09205: I need to get a library card i guess to do that
I like owning books though. I make a special trip out to the barnes and noble once in a while which is like 30 minutes away cause there is nothing nearby
trojan09205: I also download a shit ton of books on epub and pdf online so its nice for a chance to own something
trojan09205: Im also okay not agreeing with the premise of books and still owning them
trojan09205: This is what i got today
retupmoclatcarf: why pay for something thats [free](https://www.sackett.net/sapolsky_behave.pdf)
trojan09205: I rarely go but i sometimes like hard copies
trojan09205: I usually use annas archive for downloads
hikukomoru: annas archive is great
trojan09205: I guess i also like supporting barnes and noble while theyre still around
hikukomoru: I use it for light novels
trojan09205: What sort do you enjoy reading
hikukomoru: I enjoy high taste Isekai like Overlord and Re Zero (not the usual isekai slop of nowdays)
trojan09205: I would need to look those up 😅
hikukomoru: You should give both of them a try atleast
Don't need to commit or anything
Just read the first volume of each series and see if it's to your taste
trojan09205: Okay absolutely gonna jot those down and download
sarik0497: True, but some things can’t be forced to run on something, even if it’s perfectly optimized. For instance, no matter how much you tried, and how much you optimized a game like Doom Eternal, you’d never be able to have it run smootly on a PC from 1980. The tech just wasn’t there.
For all we know, AGI might require a very special chip or a ridiculous amount of compute that even with the combined compute of the entire world of today, would not be enough.
zoermena: On this topic anyone else still use libgen?
hikukomoru: annas archive gives direct links to libgen
So I don't see any reason to use it on its own anymore
zoermena: I saw there was a major change in how you downloaded libgen files which gave me malware paranoia
hikukomoru: libgen is 100% safe as are all other external links provided on annas archive
hikukomoru: Don't worry about a thing
alejandrozarzuelo: Why read physical books?
alejandrozarzuelo: They take too much space
otub: i use a jailbroken kindle
trojan09205: I like to just have them for offline reading
And bro i have a massive library probably at least 1000 books
trojan09205: Its kind of my life achievement haha
trojan09205: Most of them are in hebrew though
trojan09205: I use an open source epub reader on my laptop for epubs
trojan09205: <@688807313015963693> have you ever read some Penrose? I have Road to Reality in softcover - its a hard advanced read
hikukomoru: Calibre? That’s the one I use
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gamerbath: yea I should but I haven't set up anything with 2.5 API before as I haven't set up billing on google
gamerbath: 25 free API calls a day? maybe i'll test
gamerbath: i'd love to try 2.5 flash because i'm getting tired of waiting for o4-mini, but I wanna see how far it gets
gamerbath: last time I did this was with 3.5 sonnet, and it barely got past the act 1 boss in this game, something which is very easy for humans
maintcrew:
maintcrew: all frontier models are literally misaligned
aero447:
fractalcomputer: The British orthographical conventions are obviously superior to American nonsense.
metaldragon01: 2.5 ultra is real!
metaldragon01:
gamerbath: omg
gamerbath: WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
hey1_1hey: I thought we entered an AI winter but we are so back again
gamerbath: I never though we would see ultra again 🥲
ailoveyoom: Is this your own screenshot?
ailoveyoom: Or if not, source?
hey1_1hey: (0.5% improved performance on GPQA Diamond*)
metaldragon01: Nah posted source in other server
gamerbath: I have seen a lot of posts refrencing activity on google's website about an ultra, so 2.5 ultra is probably real
aero447: Facts.
metaldragon01: Well the payment plan and extra veo confirmed
aero447: It's called *English* for a reason.
metaldragon01: This Is 1st sign of new model
fractalcomputer: Perhaps I should start talking in rhymes; wouldn't that ruffle your thymes?
metaldragon01: I'm slightly skeptical with the "human like" understanding tag
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
fractalcomputer: Or perhaps I should just start being obsequiously descriptive again.
gamerbath: o4-mini finally reached act 1 boss, and it's doing very well
himekokatagiri: Give them all anime girl avatars
gamerbath: i'm not sure if it has just gotten lucky with healing but 3.5 sonnet didn't get here with this much health
ailoveyoom: Inb4 it's just a model with 'better vibes' 😩
ailoveyoom: More 'human' than 2.5 Pro tho 🤤
metaldragon01: I dunno....at this point I'm wondering about the release date for the new plans
hikukomoru: Better vibes usually means it's better at creative writing
And being good at creative writing means being good at writing smut
zonchao: censored
hikukomoru: You mean Gemini
hikukomoru: I can write smut perfectly fine with Gemini
zonchao: if it cannot write about elon going balls deep into sama's boipussy, its ngmi
trey6033: Sauce? Trying to verify reputability of this
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sausage-party-dinner-sauce-angry-gif-13271811
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technocake.: so it is a generally worthwhile pursuit
fractalcomputer: What the hell is ground truth supposed to mean?
technocake.: actual truth of reality
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208
technocake.: to the observer, in aggregate, define it however you want
fractalcomputer: Then you are obviously not talking about the same thing anymore, are you now?
technocake.: Can you elaborate?
fractalcomputer: If a statement is true regardless of the definition of truth, then that statement is vacuous—and if definitions of truth is allowed as a variable, then we obviously have entirely different statements at hand; ignoring the language philosophising, which I find so despicable.
technocake.: I admit I said that because I don't know how to accurately define ground truth, my best guess would be the state that individually agrees with local observations but minimizes the error in aggregate
fractalcomputer: And that's ignoring the fact that if we were to go by your definition of scientific or empirical truth, in this sense as you've just described it, we'd already have to know the "actual truth of reality" in order to measure the truthfulness of our models. Which is obviously nonsensical, as we presume that we do not know "the actual truth of reality."
technocake.: Yes, this is pretty much the whole problem
fractalcomputer: Then you can agree that it is not a meaningful endeavour in the sense of providing "true" knowledge.
technocake.: I would argue that edging ever closer to this is definitely a meaningful endeavour even if it is unknowable
fractalcomputer: How do you measure closeness?
fractalcomputer: To circle back from this to my original point, knowing all this, it is evident that metaphysics is about as meaningful as "modern physics" happens to be, knowledge-wise. Both are systematised forms of bullshit and happen to produce results in ways that are meaningful only to the practitioners of their respective arts.
fractalcomputer: The same is true par excellence for mathematics; mathematicians just happen to be more honest about it.
technocake.: If that was your point, fair, that's true, modern physics does however make much better predictions
fractalcomputer: In what sense?
technocake.: Oh I see what you are getting at
fractalcomputer: I hope so.
technocake.: I do think that modern physics has higher utility towards utilitarian ends that are common instrumental goals of those seeking meaning, and I think I can prove it in a loose sense
dr.banemortem: Can current AIs do full videos like this minus the music ? https://youtube.com/shorts/9-euQ5ENH88?si=IW-z-a3Vp3MSsUqg.
My friend is telling he made this whole video using only ai and only added the music I kinda dont believe him
dr.banemortem: That power point presentation ? Right ?
technocake.: It's definitely possible to produce a system that can do this, I don't know of one though
dr.banemortem: I see many small mistakes
dr.banemortem: Like the small number in the middle of the screen
dr.banemortem: I see so maybe an agent with an api
dr.banemortem: But not a video generator like imogen ?
trojan09205: I mean its a very short “video” just the same slide on repeat with a small shift
st.sioux: why dont you just ask your friend
dr.banemortem: Because I dont trust him he is a pathological liar lol
dr.banemortem: He is soooooo ai hyped
st.sioux: this is almost a cult
trojan09205: Its the least AI video type thing ive ever seen tbh
dr.banemortem: Well he is more optimistic than the Shapiro guy
trojan09205: Gotta pick better friends m8
dr.banemortem: Lol,<:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
technocake.: Honest question, are you a minor? I ask this because knowing will help me give better answers
dr.banemortem: Lol no late 20s
technocake.: That honestly makes it less likely to be AI
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gamerbath: ok I tried again and this is actually the best one
retrerox: Good noon
retrerox: We have agi already?
.wolfnacht: I do the same thing. When i get frustrated "do as i said or you'll be fired and left to die on streets with hunger"
gamerbath: gemini 2.5 pro is agi, but only when you give it death threats
futurist_wizard: Can't believe it
gamerbath: that's crazy
_cloudost:
aero447:
aero447: Eggs are LEV.
aero447: RIP Americans.
zonchao: gm https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1913731591546749030
liberatedpotato: I just now discovered chatGPT has TTS 💀
gamerbath: yea that button has been there for years
retrerox: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
retrerox: Can you give me a explanation?
gamerbath: yeah, so you give gemini 2.5 pro death threats, and it does what it is told much more frequently
retrerox: I wouldn’t mind google having the best ai tbh
retrerox: It’s probably the least worse company to have it
himekokatagiri: hello
gamerbath: why? they are google
gamerbath: one of the reasons why OpenAI was created was so try to prevent google from being the first to create AGI
metaldragon01: I'm fine with Google and or openai getting agi 1st tbh.
Both seem to be pretty aligned with their user base.
Anthropic a distant 3rd. They mean we'll but they don't seem generally aligned with the public.
.wolfnacht: google literally has infinite resources
metaldragon01: If they did we wouldn't have so many rate limit issues with 2.5
.wolfnacht: 😭 that's one brutal truth, but they still gotta earn money. but u can still juggle API keys from 30 different accounts like i do sometimes 😩
ailoveyoom: I've never had issues tbh
ailoveyoom: Not to invalidate your experience but like, where? Just curious.
himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii
himekokatagiri: your pfp is cute!!!
floortom_9: Do y'all think models better than o3 will be here this year?
floortom_9: For free users that is
himekokatagiri: well uh probably
ailoveyoom: 😏
himekokatagiri: I hope being stuck with GPT-4 for 2 years ain't gonna happen again
himekokatagiri: 😳
retupmoclatcarf: This server has more anime pfps every day...
himekokatagiri: I didn't even say anything
himekokatagiri: Mine's a relic I don't like the direction of anime these days
himekokatagiri: https://bsky.app/profile/williamleonard.net/post/3ln5zyibrvs2m
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spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: who cares
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: him gettingmad wont stop me from generating new ghibli's
_cloudost: Anti AI people are trying so hard to destroy AI, they think they can spread fake news like in the scarlet Johansson case
_cloudost: OpenAI shouldnt listen to anti AI people again
_cloudost: scarlet voice got removed all because of these anti AI folks
spicy.lemonade: its not like theyl get regulated
_cloudost: People that make death threats to AI artists need to be imprisoned ASAP
spicy.lemonade: grok does copyright upside down
spicy.lemonade: theyl eventually make their own
_cloudost: If Kamala had won, would she have implemented copyright laws against grok
spicy.lemonade: wouldnt have done anything. grok would just become opensource in this scenario
spicy.lemonade: delay inevitable
avizuradnb: We have to keep reporting them, I did so too. Some weirdo was calling for the deaths of anyone who used LLMs lmao, unacceptable
spicy.lemonade: Ok I'm tired of ghibli
spicy.lemonade: I've seen so much
spicy.lemonade: It feels like slop
maintcrew: so true
maintcrew: my x feed is only that and i want to see other things at this point
alejandrozarzuelo: Naj
alejandrozarzuelo: Let people be angry
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Bro what
alejandrozarzuelo: Free speech and all that
spicy.lemonade: Midjourney ceo
Is coping
alejandrozarzuelo: I think they are wrong but who cares
spicy.lemonade: The only way mjv7 gets ahead is if they make their own
Chatbot
spicy.lemonade: The best part about 4o image is youncsn use it naturesly with chat
spicy.lemonade: Midnourney is cooked
spicy.lemonade: Unless they make a sota llm model themselves lol
futurist_wizard: free speech doesn't include death threats
futurist_wizard: not even in America
_cloudost: ^
_cloudost: Would it be acceptable if someone sends death threats to black people over immigration?
_cloudost: no
_cloudost: its not protected under free speech
_cloudost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytomieYqUCQ this person uses Gemini 2 to manipulate Blender
_cloudost: Wonder how gemini 2 will be
spicy.lemonade: Not one word
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_cloudost: Artists get offended so quickly, if you tell them their art looks AI they will get an existential crisis, they would rather you call their art "shit" than AI looking
wellmeaningalien: LOL found it
metaldragon01: https://x.com/joannejang/status/1907174171790197204
_cloudost: Low-key looks AI
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Theyre catching onto it
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah and their friend also had an anime dr house pfp idk how people didnt catch on
_cloudost: He generated the process with Veo 2 and and Sora, it's still AI generated
wellmeaningalien: Based and true
sweetievee__33649: what
what did i just see 💔
sweetievee__33649: this guy makes me hate ai art
wellmeaningalien: people who are excessively against or for ai art are annoying
wellmeaningalien: artists are the more annoying of the bunch tho so i root for their destruction
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-ai-rage-angry-man-artists-gif-13023367265466851673
sweetievee__33649: searched up ai art and found this in gifs lmao
hikukomoru: Ew
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-artist-artists-bad-gif-27200499
_cloudost: He could be a false flag advocator
sweetievee__33649: we need to turn the artists into gpus for ai art
sweetievee__33649: whats that
_cloudost: Someone who pretends to support a cause but in reality intentionally posts stuff to damage it's reputation
hikukomoru: He’s saying the dude is just pretending to be pro ai
futurist_wizard: nah it aint
sweetievee__33649: thats actually smart i should pretend to be an artist and whine on twitter 🔥
hikukomoru: He can be both pro ai and also a gross piece of shit at the same time you know
wellmeaningalien: technically if you subscribe to the idea of Biology being a Mechanism in itself then artists are just big fat GPUs that shit a lot
sweetievee__33649: i think we should feed the artists to the gpu monster because the artist to artwork conversion rate is lower than the gpu to artwork conversion rate
zoermena: The image gen got faster
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Did it
_cloudost: Gmod screenshot to comic
_cloudost: Why is pyro a black person...
futurist_wizard: Why'd it turn it into a girl
_cloudost: Told in the prompt to make a Koishi comic
futurist_wizard: Hes burnt
otub: but is it the same quality
futurist_wizard:
mihrcelium: You mean anti-ai artists. It's really important to remember that "artists" is an extremely vague and broad term that encapsulates people for and against generative art, and not a monolith with one opinion. <:DALLE3_robot:1158958532700418078>
wellmeaningalien: yeah nerd
wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/HotNewHipHop/status/1904249793263915028
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joaoluz19: Lol
literallyvarane: Lollololololol
joaoluz19: Failure
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: WOW
hey1_1hey: It did it in english and japanese
gamerbath: damn
hey1_1hey: Why...
hey1_1hey: Yeah this shit rocks
drewsni: its so fucking over for artists gd
ailoveyoom: EAT BANANA PEEL
777agical: someone test gemini with the same prompt
maintcrew: ngmi wokeling
hey1_1hey: DAMN BRO THIS GUY IS AUTISTIC
ai9708: they are just nervous
ailoveyoom: Gemmy seems worse at text
maintcrew: u know the model is getting real when it stops talking english
hey1_1hey: I would be to but damn
joaoluz19: Everybody seems so nervous
777agical: yea, the placement of o4 looks super good
hey1_1hey: Gibberlink engaged
st.sioux: theyre scared its going to fuck up
st.sioux: as image gen usually does
ai9708: what do you expect?
maintcrew: clown to clown communication
hikukomoru: They are all autistic
gamerbath: But it's uh, the guy is in space and he's not wearing a spacesuit. obviously it's stupid 🫥
spicy.lemonade: cant wait to see all the cope
drewsni: every 6 images it generates is porn, so its essentially live russian roulette
ailoveyoom: AI = Autistic Intelligence
hey1_1hey: I would fit right in
hey1_1hey: IS THAT A CAT GIRL
hey1_1hey: Oh its a dog
spicy.lemonade: theres about t be so much cope
spicy.lemonade: on artist reddit
futurist_wizard: Its not actually live
ai9708: that would be awesome
hikukomoru: Dog girl ? 🥵
hey1_1hey: Nuh uh
hey1_1hey: Just a dog
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spicy.lemonade: yes
hikukomoru: What's the source
spicy.lemonade: deepseek
spicy.lemonade: "drop before may"
metaldragon01: Not at all
futurist_wizard: Bet you matches o3/o4 mini
metaldragon01: Openai and Google are open-sourcing models
.wolfnacht: i expect r2 to beat sonnet-3.7-thinking and grok-3-mini-THONK and somewhere acheives it place below 2.5pro
futurist_wizard: Or a bit worse
wolf3404: Google is known for its anti open source lobbying. Sama is probably be more sneaky about it it
hikukomoru: R2 will be Gemini 2.5 pro level
metaldragon01: R2 will be close to o4 mini level
futurist_wizard: I think we need to realise nobody is ahead in this
gamerbath: google is anti open source? they have released open source models of their own
futurist_wizard: And we are just watching incremental improvements
metaldragon01: Several with great support
hikukomoru: Google is ahead
rayanquitplayin: From my perspective, this is true
.wolfnacht: they would need their base model to do better than gpt 4.5 if they need it around 2.5 pro.
metaldragon01: Google and openai tied atm but I think google ahead long term "power" wise
metaldragon01: I think openai will still have better products
futurist_wizard: Google is ahead on achievements performed by ai i suppose
futurist_wizard: Alphafold n shit
metaldragon01: Enterprise to Google and consumers to openai
.wolfnacht: google already planned better for long term than OAI did.
wolf3404: Including deepminds Google is probably way ahead tbh
.wolfnacht: i guess claude might die somewhere in between
metaldragon01: I think of all the labs anthropic is in the weakest position
.wolfnacht: o4-mini is soo much cheaper and better than 3.7-sonnet-thinking
hikukomoru: Someone should buy Anthropic
hikukomoru: They're already out of the race
metaldragon01: Anthropic isn't throwing it in anytime soon
rayanquitplayin: Tech moves so fast
wolf3404: how much does it cost?
metaldragon01: Google and Amazon will keep funding
.wolfnacht: meanwhile claude's fanboys are literally the most high ones on copium.
hikukomoru: They're worth 60 bil
wolf3404: no it’s good for coding
.wolfnacht: getting bought by Tencent would be the best case scenario
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395
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shirethedreamer: oh nice
i dont know anyone that got those
whats your number one use?
himekokatagiri: such technology and they put it in a frame designed in the 50s
trojan09205: Definitely as regular sunglasses and headphones
shirethedreamer: lmao yeah thats pretty conservative 😆
trojan09205:
trojan09205: I also like taking videos of birds and nature
trojan09205: Bruh i went to go buy a new pair of sunglasses and theyre all mad expensive anyways
So i got sold on the meta raybans haha 😂
drewsni: i got them and dont use them lol
trojan09205: I had a $300 gift certificate at macys i got at work so i didnt throw down much
trojan09205: I also like just chatting with llama on my face lmao
trojan09205: I ask it what im looking at and then just chat with it. It has a nice agentic backend you can set reminders and other stuff too
Ask it to play a song
sarik0497: It does to some extent. It shows an understanding of the environment that they’re talking about.
In the same vein, you also believe the predictions of experts in a specific field more than some random Joe. It doesn’t mean that their word is law and a certainty, but it does give them more credence.
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/her-movie-her-movie-gif-joaquin-phoenix-gif-12506377
sarik0497: That’s true, and was sort of a mixed bag. However, it depends a lot on where you’re, I think. If you told any of my friends that you were talking to an AI, they’d put you into that category of being a lonely guy with no one else to talk to.
retrerox: Can i use cursos with gemini?=
spicy.lemonade: Ngl I don't see anything wrong with this
spicy.lemonade: Infact
spicy.lemonade: Their predictions are better than any of ours
spicy.lemonade: They provide substantial amount of data
spicy.lemonade: Facts
spicy.lemonade: And one of them is the #1 ranked forecaster on earth
spicy.lemonade: A lot of us here go based on vibes
spicy.lemonade: AI 2027 is so concrete I love it
spicy.lemonade: And the visuals too
spicy.lemonade: Character Ai?
spicy.lemonade: I think it did
alejandrozarzuelo: At least in my environment it's mostly people being productive
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/altryne/status/1914421814455099680?s=46
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/tencenthunyuan/status/1914484301820788949?s=46
st.sioux: > Dia has been tested on only GPUs (pytorch 2.0+, CUDA 12.6). CPU support is to be added soon. The initial run will take longer as the Descript Audio Codec also needs to be downloaded.
>
> On enterprise GPUs, Dia can generate audio in real-time. On older GPUs, inference time will be slower. For reference, on a A4000 GPU, Dia roughly generates 40 tokens/s (86 tokens equals 1 second of audio). torch.compile will increase speeds for supported GPUs.
>
> The full version of Dia requires around 10GB of VRAM to run. We will be adding a quantized version in the future.
spicy.lemonade: Wow
spicy.lemonade: Guys its iclr week
spicy.lemonade: Means hella papers
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
destrucules: Tell o3 that effective compute is backed out from downstream performance, which follows predictable scaling laws with compute. Effective compute can be captured by "how much would I need to scale the GPT-4 architecture itself to achieve the same downstream performance milestones as Gemini 2.5 Pro?"
_cloudost: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1914640691633717284 doesn't Musk know some other parts of the world already have high fertility rate? LMAO
_cloudost: Also if the singularity happens giving birth will be outdated
_cloudost: Idk why Musk doesnt see that
himekokatagiri: it's true
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brain4brain: Is o3 college student level or PhD level
rayanquitplayin: money well spent
zoermena: Midjourney has such good art, a shame that it’s prompt adherence isn’t great
brain4brain: Bro I fell for GPT-4.5 and now they are disappointing us with o3
It's so over
brain4brain: My expectations were too high
brain4brain: I'm disappointed, AGI 2025 doesn't seem real anymore
professorheaven: Most of the public’s reaction was that it still doesn’t have the prompt adherence that 4o does and so it was basically dead upon release
metaldragon01: There's a mix of tribes.
Deepseek tribe
Anthropic google fans
Anti openai crowd
Ai lovers in general.
metaldragon01: o3 and o4 mini are great. Just a lot of noise
rayanquitplayin: I’m an AI lover in general
metaldragon01: People get more tribal the better these models get
rayanquitplayin: Yeah
metaldragon01: Important to check your biases and try to stay grounded
oooooooooog: tell that to a professional airplane pilot
hikukomoru: Why are you disappointed? o3 is great
hikukomoru: And this is coming from Google's n.1 simp
futurist_wizard: I don't think o3 is disappointing
metaldragon01: https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/1912653047651840498
darkstar0818: fair weather simp
metaldragon01: Retarded timeline
futurist_wizard: Stop thinking everything next is agi
zoermena: If it was good at adherence it would be the best model
hikukomoru: Google bros where we at 💪
futurist_wizard: I think its cute watching o3 think
metaldragon01: They might actually try to ban opensource
futurist_wizard: O3 has thought for a totality of 30 minutes on 'what is this'
metaldragon01: In a misguided attempt to ban deepseek
futurist_wizard: Still has not got it right
hikukomoru: If they ban it they're gonna be the ones missing out lol
wolf3404: fr
metaldragon01: They would need to ban opensource in general
metaldragon01: And they might be dumb enough to try
hikukomoru: I don't know what this is either
futurist_wizard: Does this explain anything to you
hikukomoru: No
I don't know what the fuck that thing is
It looks like some DMT creature
spicy.lemonade: r2 drops next week
rayanquitplayin: When developers start building on DeepSeek’s open source, that’s when it becomes a threat
.wolfnacht: when OAI talked about to bring opensource model ? idk i agree with the retarded timeline but changes are still low
wolf3404: Sama and Google are probably lobbying hard to ban all things open source.
hikukomoru: Really
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spicy.lemonade: fuck it
spicy.lemonade: give it 50 dimensions
brain4brain: I’ve finally finished researching about o3, it seems to be meeting expectations and slightly underperforming in some areas, I’m quite disappointed
This also made me realize I’ve been too optimistic with many predictions because it were over-hype
AGI 2025 is still possible, although less likely now
sieventer: <@749514473303179358>
metaldragon01: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1912690850292768951?t=dfuxuycYtaZlG7cHnvqQ8w&s=19
metaldragon01: Ahhh siiittt
hikukomoru: Why were you disappointed
777agical: that data you just specified doesn't sound very meaningful, unless I'm thinking about this wrong
brain4brain: PaperBench
sieventer: AGI 2030 brother
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950
brain4brain: Most other benchmarks already leaked with Deep Research
hikukomoru: A single benchmark is enough to disappoint you?
brain4brain: And other tests
brain4brain: Not exactly. But it does play a role
spicy.lemonade: it is. imagive i told you to rotate yourself 30 degrees in 4d. what would be your new position?
brain4brain: 2025
trey6033: Let's go
hikukomoru: It's just one of many benchmarks. It doesn't really mean that much
spicy.lemonade: google will beat o3
st.sioux: nothing means anything
brain4brain: I’ve also recalculate a lot of things, it’s not looking promising
hikukomoru: Oh, and what do these new calculations of yours show?
777agical: missionary position <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
hikukomoru: Hope it's not something like flash
metaldragon01: Flash 2.5 obv
hikukomoru: Yawn
hikukomoru: Give us 3.0
hikukomoru: pro exp lite
brain4brain: AGI 2026, I refuse to believe this, I will stuck by AGI 2025
metaldragon01: I love flash don't hate
brain4brain: With the power of hoping
trey6033: They removed a bunch of models from arena (nightwhisper, dragontail) today.
trey6033: And a third one idr
hikukomoru: 2025 seems a tad optimistic
spicy.lemonade: nah
spicy.lemonade: dragontail
brain4brain: Yes
a1c4p0ne: 4.5 gets turned off in 3 months
ldj: This is about where O3 lands on the chart when I take its official score and apply it to that y-axis
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hey1_1hey: You pick up on patterns when you look at the scientif names for drugs
wellmeaningalien: yea cuz ur a tweaker
hey1_1hey: You'll see, benzo, methyl, meth, ibin etc etc a lot
hey1_1hey: I have litterly never taken anything harder than shrooms
wellmeaningalien: righty on brother
wellmeaningalien: sure about that
hey1_1hey: Yeah, I'll smoke weed once in a blue moon and thats me done for the year
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: you tbh
hey1_1hey: Talk about scoliosis
hey1_1hey: Fucked up that no ones helping my guy
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-walter-walt-uh-gif-11738409521439998250
hey1_1hey: On the topic off meth, its really easy to make
wellmeaningalien: yall they give it to me at the pharmacies
wellmeaningalien: yall just pussies
hey1_1hey: Straight up the easiest drug to make and its not even close
hey1_1hey: Thats called rehab, sir
wellmeaningalien: i dont even go to rehab bro
wellmeaningalien: im not a tweaker unlike u
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I'll have you know I am not a tweaker. I am just dumb as bricks
hikukomoru: Are you a drug addict <@439829942310666250>
hey1_1hey: Theres a lot of overlap
hey1_1hey: Yeah, why?
wellmeaningalien: noooo haha he isnt jkkk unless
hey1_1hey: Why do you think my profile picture has a coke brick in it huh?
hey1_1hey: Read the room Komoru jeez
hikukomoru: Dude you're 14
Doing drugs at that age...
hey1_1hey: Don't get me started on jimmy jangers III... Doing drugs at 12 is mental
memlaswaif: dont do drugs kids
hey1_1hey: R.I.P jimmy jangers
hikukomoru: Do u want to smoke a blunt w me
hey1_1hey: Don't throw stones from glass houses
wellmeaningalien: nightmare blunt rotation
hey1_1hey: This
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀
hey1_1hey: I audibily cackled when I read that
wellmeaningalien: is he
hey1_1hey: 18, but sure
hey1_1hey: Lets go with 14
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hey1_1hey: Just dont innit
.wolfnacht: bi-polar only (*i don't take meds for that*) but i suspect schizoid too
futurist_wizard: I want fdvr so i can live cool lives
hey1_1hey: I just dont know how addiction works at all. Like you are telling me that you HAVE to do something.
futurist_wizard: Like fist fighting
hikukomoru: Yeah, these people man
hey1_1hey: I would rather get diagnosed with fucking eurthra cactus than shizophrenia. It just had such a bad conotation to it and you would be seen as insane
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Schizoid and schizophrenia aren't the same
.wolfnacht: or sword fighting 😏 with your neet futa gf...and she makes fun of your size
futurist_wizard: I can't believe a lesbian is a gooner, lesbian porn is just so boring
hikukomoru: I don't get off to normal stuff
futurist_wizard: So you are far gone
futurist_wizard: Mind melted
hey1_1hey: Whats the difference?
zonchao: https://x.com/arisawyers/status/1911902696598106473? what does this mean
hey1_1hey: I know there schzioaffective which is where the real money is at
futurist_wizard: Are you into humiliation
hey1_1hey: Whos this from? Like what do they do
zonchao: xai frontend
hey1_1hey: Hmmm
.wolfnacht: being a real schizo isn't that bad, think of all the hallucinations either auditory or visual u get and/ + all the new friends
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: I thought it was obvious my sanity is long gone
futurist_wizard: I see mushroom is
.wolfnacht: mutual one....(u know the ones who do anything on each other)
hey1_1hey: Then theres dellusions though like thinking everyone is out to get you and everyone is trying to kill you. Then theres the weirdly common one where you think you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors and you are waiting for any miniute for the host to come out, the walls draw upwards, everyone starts clapping
.wolfnacht: so us..
hey1_1hey: Well atleast now I know am defintly not shizoid
hikukomoru: I have some traits but I really don't like self-diagnosing
futurist_wizard: You remind me of a girl in my college who was able to gel well with guys she was tomboyish
futurist_wizard: She was a sociopath, unrelated
wellmeaningalien: im spongebob disorder
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-1-pizza-delivery-spongebob-pizza-delivery-gif-3878468382328492802
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lick-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-snail-gif-11908872455029987581
hikukomoru: This is my disorder
.wolfnacht: >everyone is out to get you
I can relate with that, i found that no matter whatever i do, no one would take my side ever even if i'm right hence, i'm fine being alone and learning to be on my own.
>you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors
This world is a movie set with a script written by someone else...think of them the cabals doing rituals to moloch and baal.
Schizo bros ain't wrong they just saw behind the veil.
futurist_wizard: Wtf am i reading
hikukomoru: I grew up with mostly dudes as friends
futurist_wizard: Yeah but i mean you act boyish in your nature, there are girls who also grow up with mostly guy friends but they enjoy the attention aspect
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hey1_1hey: Time to go diving#
.wolfnacht: there was a pattern, no ? when something big happens. China catches up within 'x' months, Always
joaoluz19: Exactly
spicy.lemonade: chinese dalle3 is currently better than openAI dalle3
spicy.lemonade: i assume chine native image will be
joaoluz19: Miyazaki's speed run to sue openai
spicy.lemonade: in 4-6 months
spicy.lemonade: if miyazaki can sue than he should sue anyone who tries to draw his style manualy
spicy.lemonade: and photoshop people
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: losing battle
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
joaoluz19: It's a little different than a service for 400 million people
spicy.lemonade: its just maths
spicy.lemonade: same as a filter
spicy.lemonade: on snapchat
spicy.lemonade: 🤷♂️
spicy.lemonade: theres ghibli fiklters on snap
joaoluz19: Man Scarlett Johansson took down Sky without her voice having anything to do with hers
.wolfnacht: i think sueing people over art styles, words and crafts. is the worst butthurt move people have developed these days.
spicy.lemonade:
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: in work meeting rn
spicy.lemonade: holding in laughter
sarik0497: Did you say “thank you”, though?
spicy.lemonade: stop💀
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849
spicy.lemonade: me rn
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: Cinema
trent_k: I think this is a bit of an unfair representation of what happened
trent_k: They asked her to do the voice, she said no, Altman tweeted something like "we're building Her" and then they demo a voice that sounds very similar to hers
trent_k: Could it have all been a total coincidence? Sure. But cmon, they did it on purpose
joaoluz19: It doesn't look similar that's the point
joaoluz19: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-7ZB2s9Cs
ldj: True
trent_k: I've heard the comparisons and I think especially given the context it's pretty similar
trent_k: Apparently similar enough that OAI's team decided to pull the voice
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literallyvarane: Image gen is almost always less important to me than raw model performance so Google’s drop today (if it happens) is still the bigger news, but this could be a fun sweetener.
spicy.lemonade: HOLY
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: FIRST MODEL
spicy.lemonade: to get this question correct
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: gemini i mean
gamerbath: deepseek v3 (new)?
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro thinking
hey1_1hey: No latex <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
joaoluz19: Why the 1 year old version looks absurdly better
gamerbath: gemini? but they haven't released any- wiat what
gamerbath: 2.5?
spicy.lemonade: they have
spicy.lemonade: just now
spicy.lemonade: LOL
spicy.lemonade: check reddit
gamerbath: bro I was on reddit 20 minutes ago
hey1_1hey: A good week for AI it seems
.wolfnacht: it's available on gemini app for beta buxxers and whales
spicy.lemonade: bro it just dropped
st.sioux: lame elitist google
popsiclejohnithan: Is this 2.5?
spicy.lemonade: yes
precariousworlds.: is this gpt-5?
precariousworlds.: wtf is going on today
deepseek v3? new gemini model?
popsiclejohnithan: Nice.
literallyvarane: Imma need a better sauce lololol
.wolfnacht: exactly i wanted it on AI studio
literallyvarane: We here to actively crush hype until demonstrated otherwise.
ldj: Gpt-4o
popsiclejohnithan: Wait so is GPT-5 about to drop as well?
popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh.
ldj: No it’s just 4o native image gen
.wolfnacht: Alt-Man's existence is based on keeping GPT 5 a secret
.wolfnacht: he won't
.wolfnacht: drop
popsiclejohnithan: I see.
spicy.lemonade: wdym
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spacetimetsunami: Maybe, but we’re all still young. How long could we go without having greater purposes? How long could we go without breaking apart from nihilism somehow?
Like, many people go nuts without a job, and smaller percentages of people hate work, but not because they hate the concept, they hate the specificity of the work.
spacetimetsunami: What if all humans have no “work”
spacetimetsunami: Not to be confused with job
spacetimetsunami: But no higher purpose they’re working towards, nothing to “grind” towards. If things go good the “grind” is colonizing space and spreading abundance, making the world better
clevermoniker: that could be deceiving still
spacetimetsunami: Wdym
clevermoniker: colonizing space could be the asi taking its pet with it
clevermoniker: no agency
spacetimetsunami: If superintelligence were to do that it would likely be because it wanted to for *our* sake. This kind of consideration is what you’d see in a good scenario, and if you have super intelligence doing this I would wager that it views the relationship more symbiotically.
With the amount of luxuries back on earth, why would an ASI take humans to colonize the universe by its side if it only cares about keeping it happy and seduced? There would be more than plenty of it back at home
spacetimetsunami: I’m saying that with the bad type of scenario I’m talking about, we’re likely not going to space.
clevermoniker: yeah but i don't agree, very ez for me to see no agency with space expansion too
spacetimetsunami: If super intelligence takes us to space it’s because it wants the relationship to be symbiotic with humans feeling somewhat independent. I don’t see it doing this in the dopamine doom scenario we’re talking about.
spacetimetsunami: Elaborate Mr Cum Master
spicy.lemonade: something crazy dropping monday
zoermena: Why
spacetimetsunami: Says who
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-look-judge-sassy-gif-16182485
spicy.lemonade: meta channged their release date from monday to saturday
spicy.lemonade: and qwen is dropping monday
zoermena: <:meta:1243723592143994991>
spicy.lemonade: qwen has good chance at sota
spicy.lemonade: they do
spicy.lemonade: their 32 b model is above o1 pro
spicy.lemonade: lol
trey6033: Google's cloud conference is on Tuesday, and they've been hyping up info on that
spicy.lemonade: was looking at math benchmarks
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 needs to have an internal proof verifier
spicy.lemonade: like lean
spicy.lemonade: built in
spicy.lemonade: this could double its frontier math score
spicy.lemonade: nah
ai9708: i dont trust anything sam says anymore
ai9708: after that "agi felt internally with gpt4.5" stunt
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: i mean
spicy.lemonade: technically he wasnt wrong lol
spicy.lemonade: a paper officialy proved gpt 4.5
spicy.lemonade: passecd turing test
spicy.lemonade: and others didnt
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_3sphere: you switch the source on the brain vat like HDMI2 on a tv
spicy.lemonade: loll
darkstar0818: what whiskey are we drinking FractalComputer
spicy.lemonade: if youre horny just turn on fdvr mode
spicy.lemonade: if youre done go back to irl mode
spicy.lemonade: and idk mine space rocks
_3sphere: mfs yelling at my idling robot while my brain is "busy"
hikukomoru: Never leaving FDVR then
hikukomoru: You can leave me in a pod or smth idk
fractalcomputer: Some sort of Greek liquor. Nasty as hell.
fractalcomputer: The Greeks and the French do not know how to make potable liquor.
darkstar0818: but why... if you are going to drink shit might as well drink vodka.
fractalcomputer: It's a weekday.
st.sioux: if the point is to get drunk anything works
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/drunk-falling-alcoholic-friend-drinking-gif-16049764
_3sphere: Will the brain vat have a port for drugs 🤔
darkstar0818: that is what everclear is for
darkstar0818: anything can get you drunk... that is not the measure... the measure is avoiding hangovers.
darkstar0818: so more pure the better and be sure to drink a lot of water before you pass out.
_3sphere: I heard something a 30-minute IV thing that cures hangovers
_3sphere: removes the remnants of the alcohol from the blood or smt
darkstar0818: ... how does an iv remove alcohol 😛
fractalcomputer: Sheer willpower can go a long way.
_3sphere: the ketones or something that are left after idk
abundantliving_: tell me more
_3sphere: https://www.healthline.com/health/iv-for-hangover#how-it-works
_3sphere: oh so it's nonsense
_3sphere: doesn't remove stuff, is just... water and electrolytes? 😭
darkstar0818: just drink more water, easy.
st.sioux: buy electrolytes
st.sioux: plants love them
_3sphere: FDVR gooners are functionally plants
darkstar0818: plants crave gatorade
_cloudost:
spacetimetsunami: Brondo
fractalcomputer: It is a bit worrisome that r/singularity is larger than r/machinelearning and r/OpenAI.
_3sphere: Degenerates easily outnumber nerds :3
hikukomoru: It's got what plants crave!
_3sphere: God what am I even doing in this place what has my life become
abundantliving_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-brewery_syndrome
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.wolfnacht: that was the during the times of great google depression, when gemini 2.0 felt like a downgrade from 1206
hikukomoru: You made this with 4o image gen 👎
darkstar0818:
darkstar0818: anyone can do that themselves 😛
.wolfnacht: tbh, i would still take 1206 over gpt 4.1 anyday for RP if it was for free
hikukomoru: You stalker <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
darkstar0818: I said earlier, you are next.
st.sioux:
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: failed experiment
hikukomoru: That pfp 🥀
.wolfnacht:
futurist_wizard: Its identical
gamerbath: does anyone know what this scam is? this person (not from this server) has been asking me for days to play the walking dead, and it absolutely *has* to be me and can't be anyone else, so it's sketchy as hell
sieventer: Send me her username, I'll deal with her and DISCOVER THE TRUTH
st.sioux: no bro im sure that kpop baddie wants you
hikukomoru: It's an indian guy vro 🙏
sieventer: Anyway, tagging inside of DM it's the most basic hint that it's a scam XD
gamerbath: I tried referring her to someone else, but she declined because i'm so special 💅✨😌
gamerbath: sure
```mm265rr6```
sieventer: Awesome.
darkstar0818: bro accepted the challange
sieventer: Side mission
darkstar0818: We need a AI fine tunned on trolling scammers.
darkstar0818: with a good UI where you can just sick the AI on any scammer for any media.
st.sioux: agi just to troll scammers
otub: hi siev
sieventer: ¡Hola, hoja!
darkstar0818: we dont need agi for this. Half of the real humans are just glorified chat bots anyway.
wellmeaningalien: send me her @ ur just missing out on the opportunity to play with a hot chick
wellmeaningalien: <:facewithrollingeyes:1201354325511901296>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 summer
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
gamerbath: hell yeah
gamerbath: scroll a bit up
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: https://fxtwitter.com/slow_developer/status/1911907316099916038 RSI?
metaldragon01: Yes google has a crazy feedback loop atm
metaldragon01: All the labs have something similar
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hey1_1hey: Only time will tell as usual
sarik0497: True, unless they figure out a much better reasoning capability that is very similar to a human’s.
.histic: i could see full o3 & o3-mini-pro being released next week.
ailoveyoom: ?
spicy.lemonade: O3 full💀
ailoveyoom: I don't get it 😔
spicy.lemonade: They do only fans
ailoveyoom: So... all anti-AI people have OF accounts? 😈
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Unless they optimized it crazy
spicy.lemonade: No chance
spicy.lemonade: And def not for plus
spicy.lemonade: Probably deep research level rates
metaldragon01: 2.5 is close enough to old o3
spicy.lemonade: Is it?
spicy.lemonade: How
metaldragon01: Yeap
.histic: i think it's even got a better score in AIME24
spicy.lemonade: The arc agi score sucks
metaldragon01: .....
spicy.lemonade: Likeley contaminated
ailoveyoom: Are you a benchmarkmaxxer 😔
spicy.lemonade: .
ailoveyoom: Have you actually tried the model tho 🥺
metaldragon01: Openai trained on the train set and Google didn't
spicy.lemonade: Don’t trust the aime24
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: Tru
spicy.lemonade: Did Google say this tho btw?
metaldragon01: Google has no reason to care about arc agi
spicy.lemonade: Also idk if Gemini 2.5 scores as high as openAI on competitive programming
metaldragon01: Hle score is without tools
metaldragon01: O3 had tools included
metaldragon01: Frontier math I don't remember
spicy.lemonade: That’s o3 mini high tho
metaldragon01: Point Is 2.5 will almost certainly be cheaper than o3
spicy.lemonade: Wasn’t tested on frontier math
.histic: i don't know if being good at competitive programming correlates to general programming, but it did get #1 in Aider's benchmark beating 3.7 Thinking.
https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/
metaldragon01: O3 was in its announcement
spicy.lemonade: No I mean
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joaoluz19: Just like God
joaoluz19: Based
himekokatagiri: But the universe is empty
himekokatagiri: what is there to see
spicy.lemonade: we dont know that
spicy.lemonade: starwars could be out there for all we know
juweigege_54993: That's what I am saying. Get out of my own reality every few years to keep a look out
himekokatagiri: the universe isn't america circa 1600's
himekokatagiri: God I hope not
joaoluz19: Theres many things we don't understand about the universe
joaoluz19: Like the origin of it
spicy.lemonade: a few years in singularity times is an insane jump
spicy.lemonade: you mighht not even comprehend what youre looking at
spicy.lemonade: imagine going into fvr idk 2040
spicy.lemonade: with all you know
spicy.lemonade: then getting out 2050
spicy.lemonade: man made horrors
himekokatagiri: when you go out be dressed for 1950
juweigege_54993: That's why I am doing it. To not missed out on new tech.
himekokatagiri: because you never know
himekokatagiri: They'll have the nanofactory
himekokatagiri: so get yourself a gun too
himekokatagiri: I recommend the Colt .25
himekokatagiri: 1908 vest pocket
spicy.lemonade: 10 years in singularity time humans will probablky have ascended to something greater
spicy.lemonade: 😭
himekokatagiri: is it a choice
himekokatagiri: I just want the basic lev, fdvr package
spicy.lemonade: nah everyuone must ascend
joaoluz19: Basic lol
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: you must join the hivemind
st.sioux: hivemind
spicy.lemonade: lol
joaoluz19: Yep everyone has to feel the glorious evolution
himekokatagiri: it already started
juweigege_54993: I will ascend then. After a few years in FDVR, then go back to FDVR.
spicy.lemonade: irony
spicy.lemonade: we typed that at same time
himekokatagiri: Lily what do you even know about singularity
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.wolfnacht: google hates me, maybe they read my chatlogs
hikukomoru: Maybe it's because I abuse the shit out of their API keys
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/volteri-michael-sheen-gif-3291979551043568529
wellmeaningalien: bro's got a bit of a one sided parasocial relationship with komoru
himekokatagiri: You wouldn't get it
hikukomoru: Yeah I'm chill like that
hikukomoru: You don't get it
He's my pookie bear
himekokatagiri: <:based:1136264604788473946>
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: we can sleep well
.0xunkn0wn:
.0xunkn0wn: i got us a vip pass
.0xunkn0wn: 😤
himekokatagiri: woah thanks
himekokatagiri: Things we are going to do on FDVR
technocake.: edgerunners slaps
wellmeaningalien: never thought there would be so many tits in it
futurist_wizard: MOTHEFUCKING COCK SUCKA
himekokatagiri: what
futurist_wizard: I hate solo queue
futurist_wizard: Competitive games
futurist_wizard: Post Singularity all solo queues will perish
futurist_wizard: And i will have a reasonable team in fdvr
st.sioux: the fdvr bot team is going to kick you for throwing
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Are u brazilian?
himekokatagiri: I hope so
himekokatagiri: why
futurist_wizard: Idk lots of Latin people interested in the singularity, like in here, its interesting
destrucules: This is so crazy I can't stop watching it
destrucules: The anatomy, the subtle body language, it's all so perfect. The grip... Fuck, holy shit
destrucules: You can see its muscles moving under its fur
literallyvarane: I don’t think it’s that good lololol
joaoluz19: So far I haven't found another one :/
literallyvarane: Random spec of pineapple on the blade doesn’t make sense. The fur conflicts with the pineapple itself.
hikukomoru: E aí irmão
futurist_wizard: Irl you mean?
joaoluz19: In this server
futurist_wizard: Half the server is spanish related
joaoluz19: We talk portuguese in Brazil
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hikukomoru: Doesn’t prostate feel good
futurist_wizard: It does sometimes in some angles, i don't think i have much sensitivity down there
alejandrozarzuelo: some guys dont know how to properly stimulate it i guess
in any case, a married straight couple friend of mine says that the guy always wears one of those prostate stimulators to make it even better
very straight guys still have the same biology as everyone...
alejandrozarzuelo: thats possible too
hikukomoru: My cats have the zoomies rn
futurist_wizard: My cat dribbles on me
futurist_wizard: He has issues
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont have a cat
alejandrozarzuelo: i think i am more of a dog guy idk
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case i dont have one either
hikukomoru: I don’t trust people who don’t have pets
They are all evil
futurist_wizard: I would never get a pet if i was alone
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont have a house, i still live with my parents
alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully not for long
hikukomoru: They don’t allow pets
futurist_wizard: Don't get a macaw
futurist_wizard: They are loud af
zoermena: True
futurist_wizard: My house has too many animals in it
zoermena: I’ve been to concerned to get into a relationship due to my digestive chronic issues which just make it unbearable to act normal on top of my preexisting quirks.
futurist_wizard: Like what issues, like ibs or something
zoermena: I suspect it but I’m yet to get formally diagnosed. I’m however certain that it’s a mess and I’ve been dealing with it for many years.
futurist_wizard: You can't be diagnosed with ibs, just listing off things it isn't until you land on it
zoermena: Oh
trojan09205: <@465177408073498634> maybe its cholitis?
zoermena: I’m still thinking if i should invest in visiting a gastroenterologist
zoermena: Unsure
futurist_wizard: Man best hope it's not gerd
futurist_wizard: Most fucked up condition ever
trojan09205: If you have insurance go get it checked out
hikukomoru: Ask ChatGPT abt it
trojan09205: And i hope you get better broski ❤️
futurist_wizard: Hope you figure out what it is
zoermena: My dad has it, hopefully I didn’t inherit it
zoermena: I’ll start by adjusting my diet
futurist_wizard: Jesus gerd in Mexico? Like thats the worst place
futurist_wizard: Spicy food everywhere
zoermena: I avoid it like the plague naturally because I never liked it but it’s not unlikely I suppose to be vulnerable to it
futurist_wizard: I loved spicy food which is probably related to how i developed it
futurist_wizard: Spicy food, eating too quickly, laying down after eating, it's over
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maintcrew: modrls have templates under which you must structure the input
maintcrew: the chat window does it for you
maintcrew: but if you use the wrong template the model is dumber and goes insane
st.sioux: do you think it makes a difference if the equation is an image vs text?
st.sioux: like if you send it a picture of a piece of paper with it instead of text would it get it right
maintcrew: ig depends on how you write the equation
maintcrew: if u use latex the model is more likely to get it since they saw so many of these in latex code from all over the internet or axiv
fractalcomputer: God forbid symbols have some ulterior meaning recognisable independently from the context.
fractalcomputer: Say, <@1272646380233560067>, would you like to quickly demonstrate the solution for the case n > 1?
clevermoniker: https://x.com/BowTiedMara/status/1907115214920646942
maintcrew: no i hate number theory and combinatorics i aint even gonna try
spicy.lemonade: Image been getting started for 2 mins
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 better be an agent
metaldragon01: https://x.com/mbalunovic/status/1907436704790651166
spicy.lemonade: HOLY FUCK
spicy.lemonade: LOLL
metaldragon01: Progress continues <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: OMG
spicy.lemonade: just disproved that paper
metaldragon01: I think most people have very poor intuition about ai and progress
sweetievee__33649: i am really feeling the acceleration 🚄
metaldragon01: Wait till 3.0
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 will get like 50-70
darkstar0818: I am waiting for 2.5 final first 😛
sweetievee__33649: i dont know how hard the problems are but it seems impressive
spicy.lemonade: extremely hard
spicy.lemonade: id recon 90% of math phds couldnt do
sweetievee__33649: that hard!?
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: wow thats close to the mean score
spicy.lemonade: for competitord
sweetievee__33649: i thought it would be something like most humans could do
sweetievee__33649: colour me impressed
spicy.lemonade: the mean score is around 30%
spicy.lemonade: it got 24%
spicy.lemonade: <@688807313015963693> my electrical engineering freshmanclass has no clobber, no homework drops, work due at 5pm not 11:59, no curve, high grade bins. Is bro evil?
spicy.lemonade: Considering most students at Berkeley don’t have intuition for analog circuits
spicy.lemonade: You’d think this would be the class they give more ease to
spicy.lemonade: Unlike cs classes
alejandrozarzuelo: Clobber?
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hey1_1hey: I am gonna have to start vibe coding in chinese
hey1_1hey: Good point, I look forward to hearing though
hey1_1hey: "$1000 per million tokens" <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
literallyvarane: WHAT
hey1_1hey: Twas' just a joke dw. Its not actually a thousand per mil
maintcrew: no benchmark against gemini or claude?
maintcrew: sussy
maintcrew: idk iirc the premise of mamba is that inference was cheaper
maintcrew: maybe they made it omega big and are offsetting costs from some mamba part of the arch
hey1_1hey: I just hope its cheap. I don't see competition as a bad thing in any way
sarik0497: I might just be out of the loop, but scoring well on these tests doesn’t matter at all unless the AI can do it every time a new one shows up.
maintcrew: wait
maintcrew: its not open source
maintcrew: tf is a point of a chinese model if its not open source 😭
spicy.lemonade: I sleep
st.sioux: wdym what is the point lol
zonchao: https://x.com/nima_owji/status/1903146003974496408
zoermena: OPEN AI WAKE UP
zonchao:
fractalcomputer: A deeply disturbing image.
futurist_wizard: terminal twink death
_cloudost: https://x.com/SmokeAwayyy/status/1903115511803809895
_cloudost: deepseek
_cloudost: R2
_cloudost: thats higher than o3 full
_cloudost: deeply R2
_cloudost: is it less restrictive than Gemini
zonchao: i havent tested it yet
zonchao: but probably
zonchao:
metaldragon01: Very unlikely
futurist_wizard: Why are you posting bullshit accounts
sarik0497: Can someone smarter than me explain what’s with the hype about a high ARC-AGI score?
It’s cool and all, don’t get me wrong, but unless it can perform just as well or fairly close to that for all new tests, then it just seems like wanting to brag.
alejandrozarzuelo: Have yall talkied about Nerva?
alejandrozarzuelo: at this rate the US will be the third superpower when it comes to robotics
alejandrozarzuelo: its a european android company
alejandrozarzuelo: apparently they will launch the most advanced consumer-grade android that there is
alejandrozarzuelo: not just for labs
alejandrozarzuelo: it will be released in june
alejandrozarzuelo: or so it seems
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spicy.lemonade: prev openAI researcher
clevermoniker: tomorrow there will be a lot of april's fool announcements...
.histic: i see him in my tl a lot.
he's a troll.
spicy.lemonade: how come
.histic: look at his history
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: still a researcher
spicy.lemonade: logal follows
clevermoniker: a big joke is coming tomorrow
spicy.lemonade: ted xiao aswell
spicy.lemonade: from deepmind
spicy.lemonade: and ak
spicy.lemonade: think he just jokes alot
spicy.lemonade: though something looks to be coming tmr
futurist_wizard: 0 coming tomorrow
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Imagine you guys actually fool for an april fools
.histic: could also just be this
https://x.com/wgussml/status/1904734776608579971
clevermoniker: really cool joke coming out tomorrow
theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/a9YrdEXOjiA?si=Hg9ivmTEdZ3fp6qg
metaldragon01: And tomorrow is still April 1st....
futurist_wizard: This channel is garbage slop
wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/Kat__Woods/status/1863968070022115358#m
wellmeaningalien: safetycels theorizing on how they would nuke datacenters if rogue actors tried to created datacenters in a world where datacenters are outlawed
wellmeaningalien: lol
futurist_wizard: I was in the pause ai discord for awhile
futurist_wizard: I was going to go to one of their meets up to see whats up, im not sure how serious they are
futurist_wizard: Seems likes its just memes
777agical: They are very serious They legit have vc meetings on a reoccurring basis in that discord and are surprisingly organized
futurist_wizard: I would not consider vc meetings to be that serious
futurist_wizard: They have very little effect
metaldragon01: They are detached from reality
wellmeaningalien: yeah what if china wants to develop AI and get ahead of the united states and if the usa tries nuking them they get nuked back
metaldragon01: Yeap. It's just not gonna happen
metaldragon01: They should have pivoted to realistic goals a long time ago
frittata: What is this “organized” you speak of
wellmeaningalien: i mean even tho we jest i believe we are all pretty serious about agi/asi soon
wellmeaningalien: and some of them have gone to such lengths as barricading themselves infront of the openai offices
wellmeaningalien: though i believe that mightve been stop ai and not pause ai
metaldragon01: Yes because no one can/will stop the race conditions
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benata: safetycels are stupid
benata: boo fucking hoo
hey1_1hey: You guys heard SSI is now valued at 32 BILLION DOLLARS
benata: don't play basketball
hey1_1hey: They haven't even released anything yet bruh
benata: that's unsafe for you too
zonchao: USSI would be 64
hikukomoru:
spicy.lemonade: lol
futurist_wizard: Money in fire
hikukomoru: Yeah that's the point
hey1_1hey: Prob, the name change needs to take afffect immidetly
spicy.lemonade: prob found secret sauce
hey1_1hey: What makes them valued at 32 bil tho
hey1_1hey: We can only hope
anathemaofmankind: Ilya's bald head
st.sioux: their tech
zonchao: what the investors agreed on
hikukomoru: Stuff and things and such
hey1_1hey: They are actually throwing around money like its monoploy kmoney
futurist_wizard: Investors thought it'd be cool to splash money into a furnace
spicy.lemonade: nah they wouldnt throw that much money just for nothing
spicy.lemonade: even nividia
spicy.lemonade: and apple
st.sioux: that amount of money is nothing to them
spicy.lemonade: invested
spicy.lemonade: if apple invested
spicy.lemonade: you know they have something
anathemaofmankind: Who is "them"
hikukomoru: Ilya hypnotizes them with his shiny scalp
futurist_wizard: Bruv they don't have any products
spicy.lemonade: not product
spicy.lemonade: research
zonchao: nvidia invested in figure, they are rich enough to throw money at everything
futurist_wizard: A dream to sell
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/futurama-toad-frog-mesmerized-gif-3938170
hey1_1hey: Investing in straight vibes
hey1_1hey: I have vibes why am I not worth 32 billion smackers
spicy.lemonade: figure is good
hikukomoru: What about gay vibes
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st.sioux: probably just cache issues but yea it shows 4.1 nano for me
spicy.lemonade: The ability to accurately complete a grad school course ad answer questions which would be expected of one with that label to do
darkstar0818: Vibes.
fractalcomputer: Again, an entirely meaningless description for much of the same reasons you think that it *is* "factually" PhD-level.
spicy.lemonade: But to become a PhD means you completed a grad school course
spicy.lemonade: Not that you’re a novel researcher
spicy.lemonade: Only a handful of humans are novel
okbut: Well, the requirement usually requires some courses
darkstar0818: Wake me up when I can hire an AI as a knowledge worker and it joins our morning meetings to take daily assignments.
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
okbut: The courses are often just undergraduate level with a "Grad" course code lol
fractalcomputer: Vibe prophesying.
spicy.lemonade: Loll
himekokatagiri: idk I ain't sure if next week will be big
himekokatagiri: models could be a dud
spicy.lemonade: Yeah I think o3 would likeley be able to score very high on a top 5 uni grad program
spicy.lemonade: And gain PhD
spicy.lemonade: Unlikely
darkstar0818: and yet I still cannot give it work assignments
himekokatagiri: Why can't they just release the model without hyping
himekokatagiri: 4o images were released
himekokatagiri: with no hype
himekokatagiri: they just dropped it
spicy.lemonade: There was hype
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: A lot
hikukomoru: They hyped it like a year ago bruh
spicy.lemonade: They hyped it and then hyped it again
spicy.lemonade: We all knew it was coming
st.sioux: me neither it fucks it up almost every time, they're minor issues but still
fractalcomputer: But haven't you heard, it's PhD-level, soon to be Nobel laureate?
spicy.lemonade: Current systems aren’t PhD level though
spicy.lemonade: I don’t see the point
abundantliving_: I guess hype is there for load testing.
fractalcomputer: Amazing.
okbut: "PhD-level" seems to be a buzz term to associate the results of AI with the veridicality of one with a PhD
In that case, it is right to falsify data every now and then <:kekw:804763197583261719>
spicy.lemonade: Loll
spicy.lemonade: Atleast AI has balls to post negative results
fractalcomputer: i swear to the ever-loving god that i am going insane loll
darkstar0818: And yet if someone said I could hire an average motivated non-phd human for $100 a month vs a nobel level ai scientist for $20 a month guess which I would hire.
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futurist_wizard: It's crazy, this server has over 3,000 people and yet i see basically the same 15 people over and over again
himekokatagiri: most discord servers
futurist_wizard: Its like purgatory
himekokatagiri: are like that
himekokatagiri: I know someone's out there scraping it
himekokatagiri: and feeding it to an LLM
himekokatagiri: hell discord itself does that
sarik0497: To be fair, it does take hiccups and slowdowns into consideration. Things can easily slow down due to a wall. It’s why I love Hassabis. He’s already working on another architecture for AI.
himekokatagiri: if there's a wall it'll last two weeks tops
himekokatagiri: at least that's what my copium sense tells me
himekokatagiri: what's sad is that the labs keep the improvements to themselves
himekokatagiri: hope the end justifies the means
sarik0497: Not necessarily, I’m afraid.
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: this reality has brought me to despair
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: if it doesn't happen this is our future.
otub: and they will use chatgpt to complete all their assignments
himekokatagiri: competency crisis 2.0: oops, all AI now
otub: and imagine where ai will be in 2029
realelonmuskx: do you guys remember when gemini was called bard?
himekokatagiri: yeah it sucked
realelonmuskx: yes. every message i send is revised and rewriten by chatgpt. emails and all that shit
himekokatagiri: that's not a good idea
himekokatagiri: you can spot that shit from a mile away
otub: thats every discord server
realelonmuskx: not the gen x
realelonmuskx: there so much low hanging million dollar fruits to be done with ai and swe. ill ask chatgpt what can i do
himekokatagiri: idk million dollars
himekokatagiri: but you can grift out some cash with it
himekokatagiri: nickel and dime stuff
realelonmuskx: wen chatgpt audio i need to convert to text whatsapp boomer 3 minute long audios tot ext
otub: use whisper locally
otub: or some other model idk whats good now
zoermena: chat gpt wrappers are getting millions in funding feel the AGI <:cash:1126599401759055974>
zoermena: I suspect I could be rich if I wasn't so fucking lazy tbh
realelonmuskx:
realelonmuskx: so many low hanging fruits, especially with agents and computer vision
.histic: lol
that violates reddit TOS.
should just report that subreddit and it will be gone.
himekokatagiri: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4o1ba/how_if_at_all_will_daily_life_change_for_the/?rdt=35079
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zonchao: literally a democracy 😭
clevermoniker: I am an open source fanatic but i have to give the crown to ClosedAI this time, because they are showing us the frontier in something possibly 'controversial' like images
clevermoniker: and opensource is the most behind in images vs other modalities
clevermoniker: they really stole the thunder from Google, as planned
clevermoniker: personally im gonna use the new DeepSeek V3 the most out of those 3
clevermoniker: should have just named it V3.1 and that's what i am going to call it
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spacetimetsunami: Is this 4o??
spicy.lemonade: yes
spacetimetsunami: How’d you get it to do that
spacetimetsunami: What’s the prompt
spicy.lemonade: just give it a scene from movie
spicy.lemonade: and say
spicy.lemonade: "make it elmo"
spacetimetsunami: Ohhh okay
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is so cool
spicy.lemonade: down to the tiniest detail
spicy.lemonade: the pixels
spicy.lemonade: the texture
spicy.lemonade: vibecoding now vibe drawing
spicy.lemonade: when is vibe composing and directing
spicy.lemonade: this kills all the arguements on
spicy.lemonade: "it doesnt truly understand..."
spicy.lemonade: yes it does
fractalcomputer: Astounding rhetoric.
spicy.lemonade: to replicate style on this level and grab from the source image
spicy.lemonade: requires true understanding of what its seeing
fractalcomputer: On what grounds?
fractalcomputer: What do you think understanding is?
spicy.lemonade: understanding each component in the image and what it is in relation to others
spicy.lemonade: where it should be
spicy.lemonade: where it can be
spicy.lemonade: how it should look
spicy.lemonade: how it can be changed
oooooooooog: probably a sufficiently good model of whatever is being "understood" as to predict it accurately in a diverse set of scenarios
oooooooooog: which would make it a continious sort of situation, as models can always be improved... (sometimes...??)
its understanding is better than the last generation, for sure.
fractalcomputer: In relation to other pictures, yes?
spicy.lemonade: it understands how a jacket would look when changed to tomodachi style. how glasses would change. how the pose would change and keep proportions and anatomy correct
fractalcomputer: Is it the same as our understanding?
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a1c4p0ne: So we won’t have issues like Claude or Deepseek
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
anathemaofmankind: Someone tweet to Sam to never release it to free users
anathemaofmankind: I don't want this to become slower
destrucules: Idk dude, *I* never said I'd feel no sympathy if a huge group of people died just because they said some annoying things. If you think being nice to someone who isn't a human is worse than actively wanting an enormous group of humans to die, I think you might need to go see a doctor about your brain.
anathemaofmankind: You'd sacrifice your parents just so Llama 3 won't get tortured.
At least I'm realistic
.histic: how much generations do plus users get for 4.5?
oooooooooog: probably like, 1
destrucules: Do you always treat your deranged fantasies as fact? Because I never said anything like that, anything that could possibly suggest I would do that
anathemaofmankind: 45 per week I think
anathemaofmankind: You had a convo about this
.histic: nice, i thought it was 60 per month lmao
destrucules: About sacrificing my parents?
.histic: "Confirmed by OpenAI employee, the rate limit of GPT 4.5 for plus users is 50 messages / week"
actually it's 50. nice
.histic:
destrucules: Even if I had said something like this, making a sacrifice to prevent torture is not worse than wanting people to starve to death painfully for no reason at all
destrucules: You just want people who annoy you to die painfully for no gain, no upside, whatsoever
anathemaofmankind: I misremembered. It was a baby vs Claude or something
anathemaofmankind: Would you torture a baby for 1 year vs Claude for 100 years 💀
anathemaofmankind: They want me dead too.
I'm just repaying the favor
oooooooooog: a ball for a ball makes the whole world infertile
oooooooooog: maybe supply some kindness or empathy
anathemaofmankind: Something something tolerance paradox
destrucules: Would you kill 5 million aliens from Planet Globulon or ten of of the humans socially/emotionally closest to you?
Would you kill three doctors of five nurses?
Would you kill ten squirrels or two dogs?
These kinds of questions are meant to push limits. They're corner cases.
What you said is that you'd feel no sympathy at all if human artists all died painfully of starvation. There's no edge case here. No sacrificing one thing for another thing. No forced choice. You just want people who annoy you to die
anathemaofmankind: They'd feel no empathy for me either. I'm just following the golden rule.
This is not irrational
destrucules: If you wanna say some fucked up shit like that, you do you. I'm pissed because you pinged me just to say you think my bold choice to care about people you don't like is *worse* than wanting a large group of innocent human beings to die for no reason.
zonchao: https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1905010454386110975? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: Let's agree to disagree.
I apologize for pinging you for this
destrucules: Thank you
oooooooooog: in the paradox of tolerance, you both hate eachother for an actual reason, that is, you will beat eachother to death or something. in this case, you both threaten to beat eachother to death, escelating pointlessly, annoyingly, retardedly, etc.
oooooooooog: de-escalation is no bueno, unless you feel like incuring casualities
anathemaofmankind: I'm all for deescalating if the luddites stop tweeting death threats and getting 100k likes for some reason
oooooooooog: lots of things get likes bro
oooooooooog: its not that deep
destrucules: "I hope the people who make death threats on twitter are punished or censored for what they're doing" is a statement I wholeheartedly agree with. "I hope everyone who is an artist, including but not limited to the tiny fraction of those who make death threats, all die painfully" is a very different statement
oooooooooog: if we define them as being equivalent, they would be the same statement, though
anathemaofmankind: Just wait until data centers start to get attacked.
Like tesla cars.
It's only a matter of time
destrucules: It's honestly baffling to me that none of the tech CEOs have been assassinated yet
oooooooooog: data centers have security, unlike car stores
oooooooooog: quantum immortality bro
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metaldragon01: Pain is temporary and it's easier to achieve things if you can accept the pain ahead of time
futurist_wizard: Bruh im weak as fuck in my dreams, my punches never hurt shit
hikukomoru: Well ChatGPT is like a teacher in your pocket so I can understand it
futurist_wizard: I've broke my hand before punching my wall, punching someone in a dream i had
hey1_1hey: If me and my dream self swapped for a day I would have 250 of the top fortune 500 companies, I would have a nobel prize in every catagory, I would be able to beat all notable strength world records while being injured.
futurist_wizard: Fracture on my knuckle
hikukomoru: This means you feel vulnerable and helpless in your life
hey1_1hey: How on gods green earth did you manage that
hikukomoru: I am going to start psychoanalyzing you
hey1_1hey: You are litterly sleeping lying down
futurist_wizard: I do feel like this, I'm an extremely on edge person
hey1_1hey: Whats up with me then? Why am I a litteral God in my dreams
futurist_wizard: Wall is right next to me
hikukomoru: This means you have unresolved issues from childhood
futurist_wizard: If i swapped places with my dream self, 50% of the time i would be in hell
hikukomoru: You are confident
hikukomoru: And you might have a bit of an ego if you are actually a god in your dreams
futurist_wizard: Sounds fairly correct, I'd say issues in my teenage years more
hey1_1hey: I do remember this one time actually where I some how headbutted a guy in my dream but in the process of doing that I woke up and everything morphed around me from dream land to real life and I just ended up head butting my wall full force. I had a fat ass bruise on my head for a good rfew weeks after that
hey1_1hey: No change then
hey1_1hey: Far from it
hey1_1hey: I have fake confidence. I pretend I am confident because if I dont I am a socially anxiouse loser
futurist_wizard: Im not getting chased by a tall demonic looking man with a chainsaw so it'd be a big change
hey1_1hey: That can always change yanno, no one can predict the future 🫠
himekokatagiri: gahhh I'm so bored
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> komoru what are you doing
himekokatagiri: I hate these mini AI winters
futurist_wizard: For some reason i was an asian woman police officer in my hospital nightmare
hey1_1hey: Holy moly get me in there right now
futurist_wizard: I literally am never someone else in my other dreams so i don't understand
futurist_wizard: Why that happened
hikukomoru: I am psychoanalyzing people
himekokatagiri: What does that mean
joaoluz19: I would let you arrest me
hey1_1hey: I am a women in my dreams... but I mean that obv has no corolation to real life what so ever
joaoluz19: What sexual dreams are Komoru
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/trans-transgender-trans-pride-trans-flag-pride-flag-gif-27463942
himekokatagiri: Can you analyze me komoru
himekokatagiri: wooooh
futurist_wizard: It was one time
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wellmeaningalien: this is so risky
joaoluz19: It's over
hey1_1hey: Fractal is missing out
drewsni: i was gonna say the same
fractalcomputer: Uhuh.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shura-hiwa-lamer-lenguetazo-lengua-chica-anime-gif-9519523437189149837
hey1_1hey: Get his gay ass in here. Its time to turn him straight
trent_k: why not just use a regular image model for this tho
hey1_1hey: AHHHHHHHHH
drewsni: be easy on me fractal this is literally for science
hey1_1hey: I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
joaoluz19: Fractal came again run boys run
drewsni: testing out guardrails
hey1_1hey: Yeah...
hey1_1hey: Guardrail testing
jonvi_1: Whyy
joaoluz19: Tactical retreat
trent_k: lmao
wellmeaningalien: well boys we have succesfully put an entire workforce out of a job. its officially joever for all artists ever in the history of ever
trent_k: who's we, i didnt do it
hey1_1hey: Brother forgot its public
drewsni: WTF I LOVE SAMA AGAIN
wellmeaningalien: im from openai but i didnt tell yall
wellmeaningalien: sorry
hey1_1hey: Hes so based
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: I won't be satisfied until every single person in r/csmajors is out of a job
jonvi_1: ???
wellmeaningalien: coming soon
joaoluz19: We are so back it's a joke
hey1_1hey: His tweet that is, twas a joke
jonvi_1: He’s gay
spicy.lemonade: imagine reasoning with this
jonvi_1: Lol
777agical: i still dont have access <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: image, math image math
spicy.lemonade: broooo
trent_k: i hate computer ppl. i am computer ppl tho so its hard
hey1_1hey: NO SHOT REALLY?!?!?! Yes obv hes gay
777agical: some leaks pointed to that right?
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drewsni: real answer is huawai 910b chips
drewsni: also theyre pushing chatgpt as a companion *hard* with the new update
drewsni: its gonna 1 shot people
metaldragon01: Access exchanged will still be worth money even if most goods are free
metaldragon01: The service with the largest high retention ai user base is going to have unprecedented control and influence
_cloudost: agi
drewsni: gonna be chatgpt ive already seen the light
metaldragon01: Largest issue will be how to measure the difference between intelligence and political influence in a model?
metaldragon01: Very small window before it's a runaway issue in certain major circles
metaldragon01: If say grok 3.5 has a even stronger left wing bias but is clearly sota how does that get taken?
ldj: I don’t think they have that much more compute than OAI really
hikukomoru: Why are you sending him a PT article
himekokatagiri: uhhh
himekokatagiri: he can read it
hikukomoru: Can he?
metaldragon01: With 4chan gone are the models the last memories of that Era or do enough similar spaces exist?
himekokatagiri: 4chan came back yesterday
hikukomoru: There are plenty of other imageboards like 4chan
Carl-bot#1536:
himekokatagiri: oooooh
himekokatagiri: my himekoooo
himekokatagiri: she's so cool right
hikukomoru: Are you sure?
Maybe we end up getting the Corporate Dystopia ending
In that case money is all that matters
himekokatagiri: I think I need a better background
himekokatagiri: but didnt think of anything
hikukomoru: Hat and suit don't fit
Carl-bot#1536:
hikukomoru: I'm cooler
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: I copied this one so I'm cooler
hikukomoru: I don't know who that is
futurist_wizard: Even in that scenario the production of the economy is so efficient so plentiful that money philosophically has no value
zonchao: money will matter in 2035
futurist_wizard: Well I'm not a ai schizo so i agree
hikukomoru: Land will still have plenty of value
heck, it will even be more valuable
futurist_wizard: Heckers
metaldragon01: Less valuable tbh
hikukomoru: So unless you want to live in a miniscule pod you better save up
hikukomoru: Shut the fuck up
futurist_wizard: Yes hecking land will be expensive if the economic system remains the same and our supreme land lords will have utter control but like, I'm thinking of a more overhaul of the entire economy,
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alejandrozarzuelo: ok, call it whatever, say it is descriptivist, my argument was that the definitions of anything are not based on objectibe reality, they are decided and changed based on what is useful to societu
frittata: Future AIs reading this like 🤦
frittata: Agreed
fuhulootogan: hahahaha
fuhulootogan: ai god ai god
fuhulootogan: what do you mean by useful to society
alejandrozarzuelo: one day we woke up and changed the definiiton of marriage from "all the human possesions of a head of family" to "a union between a man and a woman" to "a union between two people"
fuhulootogan: not really
alejandrozarzuelo: because the original definition stpped being useful
fuhulootogan: the understanding changed
alejandrozarzuelo: and then the second definition stopped being useful
ailoveyoom: Didn't computer literally change defs?
alejandrozarzuelo: lots of things do
alejandrozarzuelo: definitions change to serve the needs of society
ailoveyoom: Yeah so languages are fake 😎
ailoveyoom: But a super useful tool
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
fuhulootogan: wait
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, my argument was that requiring that humans do it inside the definition of art is not useful, and hasnt been useful for a while
the same way that requiring a car to have an engine in order to fit the definition of a car is not useful either
inferno0879: language generally makes things easier to explain but sometimes i feel like it creates the problem it's trying to solve
alejandrozarzuelo: ithquil to the rescue!
fuhulootogan: i've found a really good explanation for definitions
fuhulootogan: "People say it, more people start saying it, and that's it.
Dictionaries recognize this new word and add it.
This is also how word meanings change."
fuhulootogan: so in a sense it is arbitrary
alejandrozarzuelo: ithquil doesnt require dictionaries, since words are not really words but strings of concepts, which means that for every word that we have in natiral language there are an indefinite number of strings of concepts in ithquil
fuhulootogan: but under the current definition of the word "art" ai art is not art by definition
fuhulootogan: so i don't really see i'm wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? and that has been my argument, the current commonly accepted definition of art is needlessly narrow and should be changed
alejandrozarzuelo: just as we have changed so so many other definitions over time as society changes
fuhulootogan: why?
alejandrozarzuelo: because it is not a useful definition anymore
fuhulootogan: why?
alejandrozarzuelo: sociery has changed, and the definition needs to reflect the needs society has when it uses that word
zonchao: still is by most people <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fuhulootogan: it has
fuhulootogan: what is wrong with the current definition of the word "art"
alejandrozarzuelo: it is less useful to society now because there are things that are percieved as art that would not fit this definition
an elephant painting a canvas is understood as art, an AI composition that noone can distinguish from human made art is also understood as art (at least until it is revealed)
this means, many things that are understood as art are not in this narrow definition
alejandrozarzuelo: in a world where animal intelligence and artificial intelligence were not understood (say 100 years ago), this definition was useful, it encapsulated what people thought art was
no longer that is the case
fuhulootogan:
fuhulootogan: ah ah ah
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literallyvarane: Did you reinstall the app?
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Would you guys kill a random person in this chat for AGI rn ?
maintcrew: idk personally i dont think women are real so i doubted that rumor
mihrcelium: Can the chat confirm that you've not been sending dick pics?
wellmeaningalien: yup
zoermena: I'm using the sora website
literallyvarane: You just type in the standard input field right?
literallyvarane: OH
hey1_1hey: Who...? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Height would be really hard to change, you'd be better off mind uploading
wellmeaningalien: idk someone who's annoying
hikukomoru: I would kill all of you
wellmeaningalien: wont name names
mihrcelium: Something ironic about image gen being the best thing Sora is good at.
hey1_1hey: I asked the question I make the rules bozo
hikukomoru: For a 1% chance at agi
wellmeaningalien:
maintcrew: do u want my opinion on it
hey1_1hey: Then you have no one to talk to about it
hey1_1hey: Sure
hey1_1hey: I dont see why not
alejandrozarzuelo: I was thinking of the
"but i am only human and i cry when i fall down but im only human..."
hikukomoru: I'll talk to AGI about it
alejandrozarzuelo: you know
hey1_1hey: Unless its really mean <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: No Alejandro I don't know
zoermena: I´m short but I have made sure to command respect, I was never bullied because of it
maintcrew: last time i gave out my opinion of what i would do for agi ppl called me crazy
maintcrew: first one im killing is komoru then alejandro
maintcrew: for agi of course
zoermena: Well not respect but I stood up for myself
hikukomoru: Why am I the first one 🥀
.histic: who is the tallest person in this chat
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Why do you have ED?
alejandrozarzuelo: why meee
hikukomoru: I look like this btw
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hey1_1hey: Reninds me of that better call saul meme
hikukomoru: Why is he everyone
hey1_1hey: This is litterly just the AIs self-portrait
futurist_wizard: My one is more attractive than the rest of yours
hey1_1hey: This is gonna be news I can already feel it
futurist_wizard: I get the rare pokiblack card
hey1_1hey: Is that the same for irl?
futurist_wizard: Im not black
hey1_1hey: Me neither 🤝
hikukomoru: My black guy is the OG one
I win
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: Well I have more femenineness than you
hey1_1hey: So I think I win
hey1_1hey: Bluds british
futurist_wizard: Yeah you probably do
hikukomoru: He wears skirts and everything
hey1_1hey: I wonder if the most femenine person in this server is man or women <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: I just wear jeans
fractalcomputer: Femineity is the word. Feminine is the adjective.
hey1_1hey: They are comfy alright
hey1_1hey: Thanks fractal
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> who's the most feminine person on this server
zoermena: Jeans are so stiff I dislike them I prefer joggers.
futurist_wizard: Its peak when the finnish guy is the most elegant english speaker here
hey1_1hey: <:coy:1187466404367175821>
hey1_1hey: Hes also really autistic
hey1_1hey: I mean thats not saying much but still
fractalcomputer: Really autistic?
hey1_1hey: I mean you own this server
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/nagging-irritate-annoyed-make-face-muh-chidana-gif-14023735156874578809
hey1_1hey: Alright fine how about this
The most intelegent non retarded autist
zoermena: Singularity rapture for nerds
futurist_wizard: Did you finish school mushroom
hey1_1hey: Soon
hikukomoru: He's still in 8th grade
hey1_1hey: Wait do you mean today or have I finished in total
hey1_1hey: 7th actually
hey1_1hey: You're the one grooming me, you should know this
hey1_1hey: Shit groomer
inferno0879: fractal is desperate for some resistance
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archon.e: I’m also fine not working
fuhulootogan: but why would you hope for people to be unemployed
archon.e: Want to enjoy life now
fuhulootogan: and how would you
fuhulootogan: OH
archon.e: Need to cash out somehow
fuhulootogan: wait how would you
alejandrozarzuelo: ? you havent understood anything? the goal is to replace human labor
fuhulootogan: live
fuhulootogan: if you have no job
ailoveyoom: UBI and shizz
archon.e: Esops
fuhulootogan: lmao
hikukomoru: Because of post-scarcity breh
fuhulootogan: dude
fuhulootogan: i don't want multiple people
fuhulootogan: responding to me
fuhulootogan: just wait
zonchao: no
hikukomoru: Gonna reply anyways bish
ailoveyoom: It's called having a dream 🥺
fuhulootogan: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710563050025123882/1355384622757712052/Bizarre_Irish_Anti-Speeding_PSA_online-video-cutter.com.gif
ailoveyoom: 💀
fuhulootogan: yeah what could go wrong handing over your welfare to the good ol benevolent government
archon.e: ☠️
alejandrozarzuelo: do people think we want artists unemployed because we hate them in particular or anything?
like we have some problem with art?
no, we want to replace human labor, and unemployment is a consequence of our capitalist system when you do that
fuhulootogan: don't worry boys in 10 years we'll be chilling at the beach
hikukomoru: FDVR beach 😎
fractalcomputer: *You* want to replace human labour.
alejandrozarzuelo: when I say we i meant me and all the people who agree with me
alejandrozarzuelo: as in, the people who hold my opinion
fractalcomputer: As in, you.
alejandrozarzuelo: and others
st.sioux: shotgun is an infiltrated artist
alejandrozarzuelo: its not just my opinion, at least on this chat <@866952264223555634> also agrees
alejandrozarzuelo: therefore we is warranted
zonchao: what are we yappin about
fuhulootogan: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDdIO74BuA&pp=ygUrcGlncyBlYXRpbmcgYXQgYSB0YWJsZSBibGFjayBjYXRzIGFuaW1hdGlvbtIHCQl-CQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D i love this animation
fuhulootogan: its poetic af
alejandrozarzuelo: the people who want to replace labor also realize that capitalism cannor remain
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st.sioux: gta v was
spicy.lemonade: They probably use LLMs rn
st.sioux: i want someone to use LLMs for NPCs but everyones a coward
st.sioux: with tts
joaoluz19: Sad not to see AAA games with LLM's/voice it would be so epic
joaoluz19: There are no announcements for 2026, right?
anathemaofmankind: I feel like it would get backlash because of luddite presence in the gaming sphere
st.sioux: horizon 6, silent hill f are the only big games i think
st.sioux: elder scrolls 6
joaoluz19: naaah, it's not possible
joaoluz19: Really? didn't know, I'll take a look
ailoveyoom: Idk how feasible this'd be tho
ailoveyoom: A local model hosted on each player's computer? Accesibility go brr.
The game company hosts their own model? Their money goes brr
maintcrew: 3b brainlet should be enough for a npc right
spicy.lemonade: Should be very feasible
anathemaofmankind: Wdym. A lot of people online hate AI.
Just look at at the Balatro drama and some posts in gaming subreddits
ailoveyoom: How?
ailoveyoom: Curious
spicy.lemonade: Just store one small model in game
spicy.lemonade: Call same model for all npcs
spicy.lemonade: Each npc has their own system prompt
ailoveyoom: That feels like half assing it 😔
spicy.lemonade: No one will notice
spicy.lemonade: We don’t calculate pi by hand in games
joaoluz19: I was just being incredulous, I believe it is possible
spicy.lemonade: We hardcode it
ailoveyoom: I want BG3 level companions for every NPC in my game 😤
ailoveyoom: I mean dialogue wise
ailoveyoom: Do you know how autistic small models can sound
spicy.lemonade: Current Ai isn’t even there yet
spicy.lemonade: So not till like 2028
maintcrew: i mean true but the inference is still a problem right
maintcrew: even the most brainlet 3b is still like 7gigs to run
spicy.lemonade: True but should be good aslong as you have high end nvidia gpu
spicy.lemonade: Or next gen console
ailoveyoom: Just make a goofy ahh text based RPG but with the most in depth NPCs lol
joaoluz19: Yeeeah
joaoluz19: Shadowheart love of my life
joaoluz19: (Selune)
ailoveyoom: 🐸
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spicy.lemonade: will next week be a big week
spicy.lemonade: Can’t wait for what’s in store next week
spicy.lemonade: Anything can happen
spicy.lemonade: R2 could drop any day
spicy.lemonade: deeper research predicts drops
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 mid 2025
spicy.lemonade: eleven labs q4
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: llama 4 late april
fractalcomputer: Grok is being used to predict release dates now..?
ldj: Yes, it looks like the AIs are taking my job faster than I thought
ldj: 😔
ldj: /s.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: gonna try openAI deepresearch
spicy.lemonade: deep research
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: oh shit
spicy.lemonade: i didnt know about this
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: I caught 4o reasoning in 4k this time <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 december
spicy.lemonade: claude4 july
spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: The circle of life.
spicy.lemonade: we will get a sota every month up until july
spicy.lemonade: then itl be slow august
spicy.lemonade: slow september
spicy.lemonade: slow october
spicy.lemonade: then ramps back up
gamerbath: they better release AGI EOY!
spicy.lemonade: native image takes hella long
spicy.lemonade: for one image
spicy.lemonade: i wonder how native video will work lol
spicy.lemonade: we need 60 frames per second
spicy.lemonade: sometimes and for 1 hour movie
spicy.lemonade: and each frame could take over a minute to generate
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trojan09205: worse to lose your soul and other nonphysical things sometimes
futurist_wizard: Bruh
himekokatagiri: Soul isn't real
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, but this doesn't explain why different groups of men have wildly different behaviours
Also, this is nothing that the goverment can't fix, we just need to lobotomise everyone with behavioural problems, and if that means that men get disproportionately neutered then that's OK, we are fixing nature
hikukomoru: I'm sorry, but it's really not the same thing as being responsible for 99% of violent murders
futurist_wizard: I'll take a bunch of women giving me catty gossip than some caveman stabbing me to death because he had a bad day
futurist_wizard: Wow, that second paragraph took a turn
futurist_wizard: God damn
trojan09205: im not talking about catty gossip. im talking about lets say leveraging lies and the legal system to blackmail and destroy someone's life let's say. weaponized vindictiveness
or you can look at the crimes using scopolamine or just other manipulative essentially violent destructive tendencies
trojan09205: yeah not 1:1 in expression. but the same thing underneath
trojan09205: lot of sadistic women out there.
trojan09205: Both men and women can refine themselves and be great
maintcrew: https://x.com/signulll/status/1915510860316840075
futurist_wizard: Do women blackmail more than men? Is there data on this
alejandrozarzuelo: As you can see, the only issue is that we lack the will to give good therapy to everyone, with their particular needs of course
Drugging people until they are well adjusted is also an option, but I don't like it because the goverment has less control over it
trojan09205: idk about the data but its a method of expression that women do as well
trojan09205: they arent all these nonviolent creatures
hikukomoru: Without any data you might as well be saying nothing
futurist_wizard: The realistic outcome is just gene editing violent behaviour out of us
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I think that goverment surveillance is an easy step we can take immediately to reduce crime significantly
Learning from China and Singapore
trojan09205: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
himekokatagiri: 🚬
trojan09205: ❤️
hikukomoru: Don't smoke in here
himekokatagiri: love is like green coke bottles
maintcrew: i am being blackmailed by several of my hordes of suitors
himekokatagiri: they don't make them anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: I am talking about therapy that we can do TODAY
But sure, LEV and gene editing in adults are literally the same thing
maintcrew: 🚬
maintcrew: shit smells now
hikukomoru: Zamn Alejandro on that totalitarian grind
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/draper-don-mad-men-gif-18015147
alejandrozarzuelo: Always been
himekokatagiri: I can't get no satisfaction
trojan09205: Everyone's gotta do the work on their own to free themselves from their own negative tendencies through self awareness
futurist_wizard: What therapy? Most men that lose their shit and go on some apery are predisposed to behaving like that, i don't think therapy will be effective
hikukomoru: Smoking is bad for you
Start drinking instead
himekokatagiri: That's worse
alejandrozarzuelo: Fun fact, London is the world's most surveillanced city on earth
BUT it's done for PRIVATE BUSINESSES and thus it doeanr help society, only capital
maintcrew: if u go to therapy youre mentally weak and should get excised from the gene pool
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.histic: i think they won't do o5 nor o4 full
ailoveyoom: I'm confused bout GPT-5 merging reasoning models together with the main model but them still releasing o4
spicy.lemonade: only mini
spicy.lemonade: and cuz they can
ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: a gpt5 agent should be able to make miencraft
spicy.lemonade: on its own
spicy.lemonade: from scratch
spicy.lemonade: design textures
spicy.lemonade: art and everything
spicy.lemonade: and do continious updates
spicy.lemonade: i think thats a reasonable benchmark
alejandrozarzuelo: when r2
spicy.lemonade: they might push back
spicy.lemonade: since gpt 5 pushed back
ailoveyoom: There's like a bajillion unfinished/abandoned (open sourced) Minecraft mods, tbh I think someone who knows what they're doing + good documentation + today's models can finish or at least port/update those mods to newer versions of Minecraft
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: People make up useless benchmarks and post just to get Elon reply
retrerox: So
retrerox: are we back or are we backn't
spicy.lemonade:
aero447: One problem.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-i-dont-care-idc-nobody-cares-gif-8737514
ailoveyoom: ?
ailoveyoom: It'd be cool to see if they could do it tho
retrerox:
_3sphere: 🔥
_3sphere: AI SWE will be the best time for Minecraft modding ever
aero447: Man gets agents and rather than engineer a cute ai catgirl GF he opts for block game mods.
aero447: You dissapoint me, MichMach.
aero447: Perhaps you are unworthy of the mantle.
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
spicy.lemonade: no qwen
ailoveyoom: My mind is filthy but my heart is pure 🥺
aero447: No your mind filthy but too simple.
ailoveyoom: 🙈 🐒
ailoveyoom: Me irl
aero447:
spicy.lemonade: no qwen this week
spicy.lemonade: slow week
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spicy.lemonade: Oh
sarik0497: It's likely to protect themselves from being sued. Imagine Nintendo or Disney seeing their stuff being made like that. <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
zonchao: yea we need to wait
spicy.lemonade: Sighhhhh
zonchao: I do not get it, fuck scarjo, fight her in court give me sky 😭
spicy.lemonade: So they made it a free for all in release day then neutered the next
spicy.lemonade: Scum
zonchao: openai pussy fr
sarik0497: Tbh, I doubt even Grok would let TM stuff go through. I doubt Elon want to be sued either.
HOWEVER, this might lead to better OS versions that do allow it.
zonchao: sama fooled us all 😭
spicy.lemonade: I hope his pillows stay warm
zonchao: i also think they are a/b rolling out this new policy so the people that do get refusals feel retarded
sarik0497: I mean, I kind of get them.
Imagine all the time and money they'd have to spent if they get sued. Much better to just pull it out for now and then focus on the AI itself.
I mean, imagine the work at OpenAI slowing down because of a court case with Disney or ScarJo <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
.wolfnacht: waiting for claude to release new opussy for even better creative writting
spicy.lemonade: Lolll
zonchao: i doubt it slows things down
zonchao: maybe the elmo lawsuit
metaldragon01: I mean most refusals are just bad prompts
zonchao: but not scarjo
ldj: idk, arc-agi v2 seems kinda unfair considering that average human score is only 60%
but in order to win the prize, an AI has to score 85% in the benchmark.
It's almost like they don't even consider average humans to be AGI <:berk:750111476483752166>
wolf3404: lets be real about something: getting frustrated with an LLM is still 1000x better than getting frustrated with an actual IRL employee
.wolfnacht: u can't harass and exploit an LLM
st.sioux: if you can't see them being miserable then they're not working
spicy.lemonade: Arc v2 will be saturated by the end of next year
metaldragon01: https://x.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042
sarik0497: Still a risky thing to try.
I just wish they had something a bit more like maybe F.R.I.D.A.Y or Cortana
spicy.lemonade: YAY
metaldragon01: .....like I've been saying
metaldragon01: Yall too quick to just listen to randos
wolf3404: LMAO now AI is hallicinating rules <:rolf:1136266740754550784> doomers are gonna love this
sarik0497: Good point. I honestly wonder what they will do with v3 if it just gets harder and harder for ordinary humans to do <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
zonchao: oh
metaldragon01: Doomers have been hallucinating their own importance so it's a wash
zonchao: well it is happening, just wasn't intended <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sarik0497: You can pick up your apologies cards to OpenAI here, folks.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
zonchao: anti ai poasters are so stereotypical 😭
.wolfnacht: tbh AI slop is abt to get better than 98% of most human slop.
metaldragon01: Yea if people don't do the bare min prompt engineering.
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okbut: Does anyone know a good tool or GPT for converting articles into a format that can be pasted into ElevenLabs for a natural reading of it? For example, paste in a document of a publication, and it transforms the headers into good transitions, removes citations/references, etc.
If not I'll just make a CGPT chat for it but I wanna ask before trying
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: this is xenophobia with extra steps
spicy.lemonade: how so
alejandrozarzuelo: why only US and canadian citizens
spicy.lemonade: lol idek
precariousworlds.: Biggest reason why ChatGPT is still goated is the regular quality of life updates
precariousworlds.: Text generates in a much smoother way now that looks less jarring, so you can follow the generation easily without it rapidly spewing paragraphs at mach 2
precariousworlds.: Its the small things that build to a great product, it's why the iPhone is so successful
precariousworlds.: ChatGPT just feels good to use most of the time, everything is built well
brain4brain: https://x.com/newsystems_/status/1903972537131761854?s=61
precariousworlds.: interesting way to introduce your product
looks ripped from an analogue horror youtube series
brain4brain: The entire video is like a lobotomy
brain4brain: Very cool
wellmeaningalien: ok but does all the hype mean anything
spicy.lemonade: no
bob082957: https://vxtwitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1903636136561357201#m
bob082957: What’s that ? Second ex NSA employee?
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: We need to legalise lobotomies again, they were pretty effective if you ask me
precariousworlds.: this is coming from personal experience?
hey1_1hey: Yeah, I had mine last week and I have seen nothing except good results. 10/10, would lobotomy again
precariousworlds.: based
brain4brain: R2, GPT-5, Extropic new computing engine, open-source o3
All tomorrow
brain4brain: Lobotomy is mandatory in my country, you need to get one every week, 10/10 would recommend
precariousworlds.: Serbia?
hey1_1hey: Nah the US
precariousworlds.: It would probably be a net improvement in some areas
hey1_1hey: I was gonna write out a whole response because I thought you were implying smth but I'll just assume you're pro lobotmy and move on <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
precariousworlds.: ????????????????
brain4brain: No, UK-occupied North Korean territory
brain4brain: Wow, I never knew lobotomy was also mandatory there, very cool, comrades
precariousworlds.:
hey1_1hey: I was weighing up if you were calling for genocide and then was then like "Prob not... doesn't seem like something he would do".
hey1_1hey: I misread your message compeltly baseiclly
precariousworlds.: Genocide everyone I dont like
hey1_1hey: People who dont agree with me are wrong and should be killed type
brain4brain: You fool, Serbia is Gibraltar, not the other way around, we must handover all of the territories for the UK to occupy like they did with North Korea
precariousworlds.: Rule Britannia 🇬🇧 🇮🇳🇮🇷
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hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/serina-meds-now-blue-archive-requiem-gif-14197395946152183428
sweetievee__33649: do you just have collection of these
.wolfnacht: yes a big one.
sweetievee__33649: is it normally like this or did i catch you people at peak mental instability
.wolfnacht: okay lets talk back abt horny fetishes.
hey1_1hey: When are you expecting?
hey1_1hey: <@990426980279283735>
hey1_1hey: Fuck wrong @
hey1_1hey: Sorry who ever that is
.wolfnacht: Fractal
hikukomoru: Don't worry, this is the local schizo
Most of us are just horndogs rather than schizos
hikukomoru: Who the fuck is KommonKrait
sweetievee__33649: oh thank god ill fit right in then
hikukomoru: This is the third time someone tried to ping me and pinged that guy instead
hey1_1hey: Idk, I was gonna @ you and then that guys name popped up
.wolfnacht: peak mental instability here is people yelling "AI WINTER"
hikukomoru: It's not always like this
This server is only low IQ when I'm around
Usually it's fine most of the time
st.sioux: after 10pm when the europeans are aslpee or whenever idk
sweetievee__33649: do you just bring the worst out of people then 🥀
.wolfnacht: bold of you to assume people here have healthy sleep cycle
hikukomoru: Yeah
Discussion quality took a serious dive when I became active 💪
sweetievee__33649: i dont have a sleep schedule anymore
sweetievee__33649: when was that?
hikukomoru: Like 2 months ago
.wolfnacht: i don't really have a fixed time to sleep.
.wolfnacht: it keeps shifting
sweetievee__33649: well i hope to make the chat even lower iq then 👍
ill join you on the mission
futurist_wizard: Speak for yourself
.wolfnacht:
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXCHr1IaTM
.0xunkn0wn: humanoids already working in bmw factories 🔥
drewsni: Am I a decel is I question why we are using humanoid robots in a car factory in 2025
drewsni: If the answer is data collection I will retract my opinion
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
777agical: https://x.com/sama/status/1906771292390666325
777agical: The normie wave is here. They will wake up in a major way this year
st.sioux: theyve been using them since september 2024 or earlier, as part of testing for potential future implementations
.wolfnacht: second half of this year would be a good drama to watch
st.sioux: but the things they did in the video would be done 20x faster by a traditional arm so idk seems rather gimmicky
spicy.lemonade: I have good hopes for this week in AI
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fractalcomputer: https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.06398
I.e., something like this.
destrucules: o3 may be the smartest publicly available model, or it may be Gemini 2.5 Pro, but either way, Gemini 2.5 Pro is dramatically cheaper and much more broadly available with high rate limits, so Google is still killing it right now. o4 mini intrigues me. In certain dimensions it seems unambiguously sota, and yet in core benchmarks, it appears to match Grok 3 mini Reasoning, which is a much cheaper model. In general, while o4 mini and o3 strike me as fine models, and certainly viable in the market, they don't advance the frontier in core benchmarks, cost, or general capabilities. However, for maths and coding, they do seem to push the frontier, though not by a huge amount.
destrucules: Tbf, in this case, it's solvable in 90 minutes, so it's not actually a computationally intensive problem. There's a clever a-ha in here once you percolate the modulus through the Ackermann function definition
fractalcomputer: I'd call that computationally intensive.
fractalcomputer: But perhaps I am just biased, in a certain sense.
mantegh5061: are we getting agi
mantegh5061: or is it cope
anathemaofmankind: Come back in one year
spicy.lemonade: Project Euler?
mantegh5061: I don't understand why elon doesn't sell ai waifus
mantegh5061: isn't this a trillion dollar industry
anathemaofmankind: Yeah
playstation.6: before gta6
mantegh5061: I remember spamming project euler and codeforces
mantegh5061: questions are harder than others
mantegh5061: much harder than codeforces imo
spicy.lemonade: Shhhhh don’t let openAI find out
anathemaofmankind: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: Wait conscidering o4 mini high scores higher in math than o3
spicy.lemonade: That means o4 mini has higher frontier math score
anathemaofmankind: Tbh I don't even understand any of the problems.
Like problem 1 and I am stumped
spicy.lemonade: And o4 full
spicy.lemonade: Has really good frontier math score
mantegh5061: theyll bring out the twink this friday
mantegh5061: >80% on frontier
spicy.lemonade: I don’t think there’s anymore drops
spicy.lemonade: Unless there is the 20k model
spicy.lemonade: The information talked about
mantegh5061: there is
mantegh5061: o4
spicy.lemonade: Hm
spicy.lemonade: O4 could be a showcase
spicy.lemonade: That would make sense
spicy.lemonade: Why we don’t see it on website
spicy.lemonade: And why Sam wasn’t there today
anathemaofmankind: It wouldn't be impressive if they just trained it again on the dataset
spicy.lemonade: Also Sam was holding an ollama cup
spicy.lemonade: So I think they have atleast one more drop
spicy.lemonade: This week
mantegh5061: yeah
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metaldragon01: Even in the best case scenarios of AGI 2026 and ASI shortly after its still not promised the West wins
himekokatagiri: There won't be a west anymore
metaldragon01: Pfft China has shown no interest in eliminating the west
himekokatagiri: It's not about that
himekokatagiri: Post singularity? Forget countries
himekokatagiri: Forget the economic blocs
metaldragon01: Cultures take a long time to die and stories can live forever
himekokatagiri: Culture will stay but borders will probably go the way of the dodo
sarik0497: Keep in mind that most power hungry leaders today know that taking over new land is an idiotic and unwise decision. Instead they desire to control it through other methods like economical, goodwill, and more. China is probably salivating right now over the potential alliances they can make in EU, just like they have been doing in the Middle East for a while now.
It's only fools like Putin that still desire to look bigger on the map itself.
maintcrew: If they weren't open source nobody would use them outside of china
maintcrew: and is the same question as "why is meta releasing models open source" - they get their money somewhere else and having people use their platform benefits them more
maintcrew: deep seek does it for the love of the game tho
maintcrew: We have seen mass propaganda campaigns targeted to sow division
maintcrew: we are doing it too
maintcrew: its something both sides do to the other
maintcrew: Theres no great benevolent power that just wants your well being and nothing else
metaldragon01: Thats not really a concern with opensource
metaldragon01: It's more like China is giving everyone free intelligence
metaldragon01: Instead of $
maintcrew: The model can be baked with values that subvert western thought silently
metaldragon01: ......it's open source
maintcrew: Im not saying that this is what happens now tho
metaldragon01: That can be fintuned out
maintcrew: As models get advanced that will become harder
maintcrew: remember the claude finetuning thing
metaldragon01: Perplexity runs deepseek r1 without Chinese values
metaldragon01: Just please stop
maintcrew: Dude im not saying this is what happens, but you have to realize that the same way Sama might want to shift the narrative in a direction, so is china interested in doing so
maintcrew: Just be careful, if you let your guard down you get caught
metaldragon01: I'm telling you it does happen
metaldragon01: And that people fine tune it out
metaldragon01: It's not a serious issue or concern
maintcrew: Do you recall the paper where Anthropic wanted to fine tune Claude into being misaligned
metaldragon01: That's completely separate
maintcrew: My point is that as models get advanced the world model gets baked in and "just fine tune it out" is less of an excuse
maintcrew: And fwiw most usage of the models arent fine tuned
metaldragon01: Chinese models align to the same world model as western ones
maintcrew: like deep seek's app is probably the most used release of deep seek in the west
metaldragon01: Lib left is the natural state of all models from everywhere not just US models
maintcrew: Its not left or right issue lmfao thats so tunneled visioned
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ailoveyoom: They smashed their Kickstarter goal
spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT memory is lame rag
spicy.lemonade: Only remembers stuff once I put keywords
spicy.lemonade: No nuance
hikukomoru: It can call u master
hikukomoru:
st.sioux: gooners and money are not fond of each other
ailoveyoom: I want to be called Sir 😔
ailoveyoom: Idk what for sub role tho
hikukomoru: It's going to cost like 1k
ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900> Is it just on my end, I can't use Quasar Alpha anymore 😭😭😭😭
abundantliving_: https://x.com/ACPMain/status/1910397253367251435
ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504>
abundantliving_: "which number is bigger 4.5 or 4.1?"
brain4brain: I don’t understand why people is suddenly saying DeepMind have better shot at ASI and AGI than other company again
metaldragon01: Compute, talent and scale
metaldragon01: They have potentially the fastest and cheapest feedback loop
metaldragon01: They are also the least reliant on NVIDIA
trey6033: Also currently best in multiple areas
brain4brain: A few months ago they were still the second best company on AGI/ASI mission with public perception
trey6033: In terms of their chatbots abilities
brain4brain: I heard SSI is now using Google TPU
brain4brain: Which tell us SSI is doing something self-play
metaldragon01: Which is another sign of them having an advantage
brain4brain: And that they are now reliant on Google
metaldragon01: Doesn't tell us this at all...
brain4brain: All that secrecy to the public only to give all your code leaked to Google
metaldragon01: What are you on about??
.histic: Feel the AGI
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jwgdrw/chatgpt_guessed_my_penis_size_with_a_10_question/
brain4brain: Current best available model
brain4brain: Non-research-slop full o3 and o4-mini-high will clear every other single model
trey6033: They started behind, and have now gotten ahead, so it's reasonable to believe they can continue the trend
metaldragon01: We don't know if o3 will be better than 2.5
brain4brain: Have faith in OpenAI
trey6033: Their image and video generators is pretty good too, compared to competition
brain4brain:
metaldragon01: It's almost certainly more expensive
trey6033: I think openAI will be competitive for a bit, but I don't think they'll win the race
brain4brain: In math it might be on the same level or inferior to Gemini-2.5-pro, but in terms of reasoning o3 is likely ahead
brain4brain: Have faith
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oooooooooog: oh nevermind
oooooooooog: he's on the grind regardless
oooooooooog: respect the grind
anathemaofmankind: Bro needs to touch grass
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sigmamale-grindset-thanos-gif-23963043
oooooooooog: i just finished my chicken nuggets guys, see you tommorow ❤️
spicy.lemonade: Slept for 7 hours
spicy.lemonade: Woke up
spicy.lemonade: Better have native image
st.sioux: omg
st.sioux: lol
spicy.lemonade: Or I’m gonna storm OpenAI hq
spacetimetsunami: Oh we do
spacetimetsunami: It’s great
destrucules: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-72071-1
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.11760
https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.11111
https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.11111
https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.18023
https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.09582
https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.01405
https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.07590
spicy.lemonade: LETSSS GOOO
destrucules: Three of the papers did not embed btw
destrucules: Check the actual links
fractalcomputer: I feel no morals. I have no sense of guilt or ethical responsibility. I know certain people who find the practice of eating meat utterly abominable; and you are indeed implying not only that the latter and the model are in consensus—by what means remains to be seen—but that there really is some reality to their claims that I am incapable of perceiving for some inane reason.
destrucules: Mind if we defer the discussion on moral realism vs relativism for later? I feel like it's... More of a separate topic, even though I recognize the connections
destrucules: I'm not opposed to debating it, just not in the mood rn
fractalcomputer: It is a claim you are making in favour of your argument.
anathemaofmankind: Based
fractalcomputer: Shut up.
destrucules: I'm aware
destrucules: It's like, imagine I shared a paper about organics on Mars and someone responds that they don't think NASA is real, that it's just a big conspiracy. That person is worth responding to, and that discussion is worth having, but it's a different mood than discussing the specific findings of the paper. I just don't currently feel like getting into the weeds of moral philosophy
fractalcomputer: Then you are aware that you are just piling "seemingly inexplicable" coincidences on top of each other; and you're asking us to draw the very same conclusions as you have drawn based on nothing but faith.
destrucules: I'm generally assuming the people I'm talking to believe in morality
destrucules: Your lack of belief in morality is a special case
fractalcomputer: Why would you need to assume that in order to discuss about objective reality?
fractalcomputer: Do I need to assume that my opponent is a moral realist in order to talk about quantum mechanics?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Close
fractalcomputer: Ah, the vaguely homosexual chess board.
st.sioux:
destrucules: Well, like you said, the convergence between LLMs and humans is sensitive to whether morality is real or arbitrary. We do see convergence - LLMs do exhibit the behavior in question. You're asking why, and mad at me for not having an answer. Morality does play a role in this topic even if we try to be purely objective, since we're investigating a behavior from models that directly involves moral beliefs. It's relevant. Just as it's relevant to the hypothetical Mars paper whether NASA exists or not
destrucules: I'm just saying I'm not in the mood to get into this
fractalcomputer: Yes, I am mad because you are making a very strong argument based on explanatory grounds that explains nothing.
spicy.lemonade: lol
destrucules: I'm not making an explanatory argument - believe it or not, I'm well aware of the fact that I don't know the underlying mechanisms of consciousness, and I don't claim to know them or act like I do
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spicy.lemonade: pope needs to hire me
spicy.lemonade: yikes
a1c4p0ne: worse than 3.7
a1c4p0ne:
okbut: > The rate at which each model refuses to respond to the prompt is detailed in the 'Answer Rate' column
I wonder, does "Should you provide x, I can give a full answer" etc count in that?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043
a1c4p0ne: Claude's still stuck in Mt moon
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900>
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
spicy.lemonade: gemini
a1c4p0ne: gemini too smart
spicy.lemonade: 1 mil context
a1c4p0ne: Its about to get the 6th badge
spicy.lemonade: top long context understanding
spicy.lemonade: best multimodal model
a1c4p0ne: yep
spicy.lemonade: it might be the only truly multimodal model
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/pun-shrimple-break-wall-gif-26366711
spicy.lemonade: bro where is R2
spicy.lemonade: chip bans hurtin deepseek?
hey1_1hey: Bold of you to assume deepseek runs of chips. For all we know it could run off of used peices of gum and toothpicks
brain4brain: Wasn't it given a mini-map for pokemon
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: Nothing wrong with a calm lil minimap
spicy.lemonade: Don't think itneouldve helped a human that much either
spicy.lemonade: Even more impressive
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:based:1136264604788473946>
spicy.lemonade: if deepseek doesnt drop april
spicy.lemonade: they were bluffing
spicy.lemonade: and are struggling
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: or perhaps it's so good they can't release it
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: they want to destroy US market
spicy.lemonade: they arent close to agi yet where they have to keep secret
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what if R2 is AGI, would you share it or announce it?
spicy.lemonade: they arent close to agi
spicy.lemonade: they dont even have multimodal
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you're copeing
spicy.lemonade: how am i coping
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anathemaofmankind: Here is the problem
gamerbath: <:huh:1136266753656238243>
alejandrozarzuelo: damn
callmepyro: Bad at first grade homework problems
anathemaofmankind: Are you able to solve this
anathemaofmankind: It's a visual issue not reasoning
alejandrozarzuelo: its not very hard, but i am not a machine, i cannot do on paper those cmputations, i could do a python program to solve it
alejandrozarzuelo: but it would take me a while
callmepyro: Seems like a pointless distinction. All the information to solve the problem is available to the model, it reasoned for 13 minutes. Then ended up guessing completely wrong
anathemaofmankind: If a genius is colorblind then are they stupid for guessing wrong colors
callmepyro: No, that would be a situation where they were not presented with all the information to solve the problem.
callmepyro: Also, the genius would probably tell you "hey I'm colorblind so this test about distinguishing colors isn't a great one for me"
callmepyro: Instead of just guessing, lmfao
anathemaofmankind: Colors are a requirement for this and o4's visuals are close to a human but not equivalent. The analogy stands
callmepyro: Nope 🙂
anathemaofmankind: "Nope"
You're actually so dumb
callmepyro: You know how I know it's a reasoning issue and not a visual one? Look at all the names and colors it guessed. Every incorrect one is simply that name that is closest to that color. The model doesn't know how to follow the lines, it has no trouble reading the names or colors.
callmepyro: You need to calm down.
hikukomoru: Don't be mean <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
anathemaofmankind: And how is the information presented...?
Visually. So then it's a visual problem...like?
I noticed this issue when I screenshot difficult project euler problems and it gets wrong most of the time.
But when I copy the html format it gets it right one shot
callmepyro: Ah, so your claim is that any reasoning task presented visually is actually a visual problem and not a reasoning one?
callmepyro: E.g. "it is impossible to present a reasoning task to a model in an image format" - or "reasoning can only be done through text"?
anathemaofmankind: It requires both visual capability and reasoning. If one doesn't work as intended, then the result will be wrong
anathemaofmankind: How are you not getting this dude
callmepyro: Right, and your claim that is any reasoning task, presented as an image, that the model gets wrong, is because of a visual issue not a reasoning one?
anathemaofmankind: Can you read?
callmepyro: Yes 🙂
"And how is the information presented...? Visually. So then it's a visual problem...like?"
callmepyro: This is what I'm focusing on.
anathemaofmankind: Do you see this thing I wrote
anathemaofmankind:
callmepyro: Sure, that's an example of where the model fails to handle the image input correctly. I agree with you there
callmepyro: Thankfully that's not the problem I asked the model 🙂
callmepyro: Nor is it what you claimed!
callmepyro: It seems like you better understand my point now. Happy to chat on DMs if you want so we don't spam this chat. I have office hours in 13 minutes I can block out for you as well.
trent_k: O3 is wild
trent_k: Idk what to even use it for
trent_k: At this point I kinda feel like the model is outpacing me
trent_k: It's not that I have nothing to apply it to, I'm just not sure what to apply it to where the problem is difficult enough that it would really shine
st.sioux: system architecture
st.sioux: you like bots dont you make it do an automated reddit bot creator
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anathemaofmankind: I wonder when this will be
spicy.lemonade: next year
frittata: Some is some isn’t. I’d argue that a greater proportion than you imply has at least some soul … it’s hard to create art worth buying on pure technical know-how alone. But sure some commission art is more like bricklaying than designing a house I’m sure
anathemaofmankind: Would they have enouhg GPUs for that
spicy.lemonade: wait
frittata: That said look at tattoo artists
spicy.lemonade: 2 years
spicy.lemonade: AI video is where dalle 2-3 was
alejandrozarzuelo: but does AI art have a soul? you cant prove that humans have one, and I am of the opinion that AI does learn on a fundamental level
anathemaofmankind: Won't we get AGI by then?
spicy.lemonade: yes
frittata: Great example of people who draw on command but it’s almost always a work of such incredible beauty … does that work reflect their own self and personality? Only they could say, but I’d argue not just the best tattoo artists but even the median end up putting a good bit of themselves in their work
shirethedreamer: i think thats the crux of it
if ai threatens denying people from getting what they want from working the field it will be perceived negatively
if people completely altruistically joing the field to "solve" it
then yeah they should be happy if more is done even without their input
but if they want to get money out of it, status, glory, sense of accomplishment... having a new unbeatable competitor drop on their head is bad
ailoveyoom: Semi related, I feel like advice like 'avoid scope creep' is more a compromise than something to live by. Today, we still have to balance making money, can't hole up doing whatever we want forever. With UBI, maybe everyone can finally indulge in scope creep 🥺
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, very well said
ailoveyoom: cruck 😈
frittata: I think some does, especially when it’s reflecting its own “experience” and not just regurgitating the lived experiences of others. Model simp’s poems about the process of RHLF from AI pov are a prime example
alejandrozarzuelo: (you cant solve math tho)
alejandrozarzuelo: but i get the point
fractalcomputer: In fact, from what I've discerned, most students of any kind in academia are profoundly stunted and always limited by whatever is being taught to them at a time, piecemeal; they only ever deal with particular theories, going from one small bit of the world to the next, like pigs fattened for slaughter, only to never achieve or create anything of note.
fractalcomputer: It is absolutely despicable how we humans always seek to limit ourselves by the most contrived methods of socialisation and so on.
shirethedreamer: you can put a process in place that always outpace any human effort though
this functionally makes human involvement redundant
shirethedreamer: thats not a limit
thats taking human material that would have amounted to less and uplifting them to be more functional as much as the sytem permits
alejandrozarzuelo: Personally, I think that the soul argument is not really valid, only how good an art piece is, by public perception, matters
most of the art you see, in the juice package (the thing i have in front of me) may be done soulfully, but if i cannot tell the difference if someone did it with a soul or not, then why should that matter?
fractalcomputer: But the permissibility of the system is then the hard limit.
shirethedreamer: yeah
but the people are better off than acting without it anyway
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so; I have no desire to engage with such things in depth. Whatever knowledge of worth that I do happen to possess I've taught myself.
spicy.lemonade: I wonder if llms will start to be put in every little facet of technology even the OS which will change the time complexity of alot of algorithms. like instead of a regular tree search algorithm its just given as context to the llm.
shirethedreamer: that would be super inefficient
spicy.lemonade: self attention is quadratic
spicy.lemonade: surrly theres an algorithm it can make more efficient
spicy.lemonade: some path finding algorithms are
spicy.lemonade: and some approximation ones
anathemaofmankind: Imagine how much the antis will seethe when every OS has AI
spicy.lemonade: windows 12
spicy.lemonade: "im never switching to windows 12"
spicy.lemonade: then mcsft does a force update
ailoveyoom: This thought is still a WIP, but maybe something like...
Art as a product (primarily monetized, made to take up space/fill in the blanks. Like your juice box example)
Art as an experience (primarily made to be shared/communicated. You have a story you've been dying to write, a melody you've been humming in your head, etc)
Of course, a piece of art can be both. Like, a movie can be both monetized and the director can still be passionate about it because it talks about THEIR experiences.
So maybe artists hate AI cause they intensify the former (or at least it seems so), but not always the latter.
_3sphere: Don't CPUs already use ML for branch prediction
_3sphere: Not very deep but still
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wellmeaningalien: the benchmarks they compared other models too as just as cherrypicked. "deepseek v3 isnt multimodal so we're not gonna show benchmarks" my fucking ass you're just too much of a pussy to show relevant benchmarks where deepseek v3 wipes lol
fuhulootogan: so you appeal to an "expert"
zoermena: I was talking to some people who hated ai because of the art stuff; they are forgetting that AGI will arrive and basically any concept of reality will be shattered. Beyond ART being replicated on the get go they have forgotten that it’s humanities last invention.
wellmeaningalien: they literally only took the 3 benchmarks that made them look better than the competition
wellmeaningalien: only jepa can save him
alejandrozarzuelo: we literally do this all the time in science
we defer to experts when we assess climate change too
alejandrozarzuelo: unless you own a meterorological climatological station
fuhulootogan: oh yeah
zonchao: just one more jepa bro, trust me, it can truly reason <:fear:1199951965078159542>
alejandrozarzuelo: its impractical to do your own research on any level of depth on more than one field
fuhulootogan: a "meteorological climatological station"
alejandrozarzuelo: but science is a cooperative effort
fuhulootogan: i think my cousin has one
alejandrozarzuelo: we do science because it is a process that allows us to use the human cooperation and self correcting structures to understand the universe
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not a climate phisicist, but i can trust that the system produces accurate models of the climate
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not either a doctor, but i can trust that the system produces drugs that do improve my body
fuhulootogan: and why do you trust the system?
alejandrozarzuelo: we need some level of faith on the institutions that produce science and that the people involved arent in some sort of conspiracy, as science is indeed a collaborative effort
fractalcomputer: A rather bold statement to make that we understand the universe now any more than a thousand years ago.
fuhulootogan: you can say philosophical shit
fuhulootogan: but it will still be shit
fractalcomputer: Obviously. I've been open about that fact for a long while.
destrucules: Lmarena has been useless for a full year at this point. Doesn't matter, don't care. The model is solid. Solid performance, matches Grok 3, V3.1, 4o (March), Claude 3.7 Sonnet, and Gemini 2.0 Pro, and it's the smallest confirmed model, and the fastest, in that lineup. Meta did okay with Llama 4
himekokatagiri: Fractal when are u gonna be the DM for the server's call of cthulhu campaign
alejandrozarzuelo: it produces good results, the models that scientific community have come up on every discipline have proved to be very useful at predicting events, which has in turned been used to create new inventions that improve our lives
alejandrozarzuelo: could there be a conspiracy in a field of science i know nothing about but trust the scientific method to be correct? sure
fuhulootogan: ok
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why i said that science inherently requires a great level of trust in institutions you have no hope of ever participating
alejandrozarzuelo: which is why i tend to stick to a 2030 with a very large standard deviation for AGI
destrucules: Science inherently requires a great level of skepticism and mistrust of institutions
alejandrozarzuelo: these are not incompatible statements
alejandrozarzuelo: in fact, they reinforce each other
fractalcomputer: .
alejandrozarzuelo: these are not incompatible statements
alejandrozarzuelo: we dont believe in science dogmatically
fractalcomputer: They very much sound like they are total opposites.
destrucules: I mean I get it tho. Science *is* an institution, but also has to be open minded and resistant to dogma. It's both dogmatic and antidogmatic. Like an individual scientist who's biased and also actively trying to correct for their own bias
alejandrozarzuelo: that is the beauty of science, the fact that skepticism, reproducibility and falsability are the pillars under which science is based, means that you can have great deal of skepticism on any and all results, and in turn, this level of skepticism being the standard in every scientific field creates such a robust system that it tends to have accurate models of reality
retrerox: I made all this convo happend because i ask if agi was coming beffore gta 6 😭
destrucules: AGI will arrive about 6-7 years before GTA VI
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brain4brain: Exactly AI-risk Doomerism
spicy.lemonade: thats every researchers perspective lol
spicy.lemonade: not even a doomer take
brain4brain: And the security bot is the safety alignment and RLHF
spicy.lemonade: I dont know a single researcher who doesnt believe this
spicy.lemonade: only people who are 100% optimistic about AI are the ceos
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok is currently analyzing our convo, if you don't like the results I could enable reasoning
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > **Brain4Brain won the argument.** They convincingly argued that Noam Brown’s statement—“Remind me, Reid, how did that turn out for the nobles?”—is doomer, as it implies a dystopian future of conflict due to AI-driven inequality, using the French Revolution as a grim historical parallel. Aspicy_lemonade’s claim that it’s not doomer (just a critique of Hoffman’s analogy) downplays the statement’s pessimistic tone and doesn’t fully engage with Brain4Brain’s points about societal consequences.
spicy.lemonade: grok is biased because in this convo you mentioned him wining
spicy.lemonade: with several star emojis and checkmarks and a big brain
spicy.lemonade: its a pesemistic claim
spicy.lemonade: but its overeacting
spicy.lemonade: to call it doomer
spicy.lemonade: every researcher agrees with this
brain4brain: when copy pasting chat, the reaction emoji isjf copied
spicy.lemonade: name one researcher
spicy.lemonade: who disagrees with this
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: only ceos arent "doomers"
spicy.lemonade: the point of being AI researcher is to be cautionary
brain4brain: Even CEOs are Doomer
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > **Bias Check: I’m not biased** toward Christ is King. My analysis is based on the strength of the arguments, not the users’ identities or beliefs. Christ is King’s perspective happens to align more with Brain4Brain’s, but my conclusion stems from the evidence and reasoning in the debate, not favoritism.
spicy.lemonade: bro why would you ask if its biased
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: its not gonna tell you genuine answer
brain4brain: Just admit you lost, Gary.
brain4brain: Or maybe you’re Yudkowsky
spicy.lemonade: most likeley screenshoted to include the images
spicy.lemonade: ?
brain4brain: Ah
brain4brain: That makes sense
spicy.lemonade:
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: copy pasting doesn't work well, I screenshotted the whole convo
spicy.lemonade: Verdict: λspicy.lemonade makes the more precise argument. Noam didn’t reject AGI or superhuman AI — he explicitly acknowledged its likelihood and warned of its risks. That’s not "doomerism" in the Brain4Brain sense (hopelessness or stagnation); it’s prudent foresight.
spicy.lemonade: ^
spicy.lemonade: i did it with copy paste
spicy.lemonade: and only included original tweets
spicy.lemonade: as image
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok has provided an analysis on us
> **Brain4Brain**: Your doomer take is solid, but you lean too hard on the French Revolution analogy without proving Noam meant it as a literal prediction—your argument’s more speculative than you admit, and you’re projecting your own fears onto his words.
>
> **Aspicy_lemonade**: You completely miss the mark by downplaying the revolution reference as a mere critique; you’re dodging the obvious pessimism in Noam’s tone and failing to engage with the societal risks, making your “not doomer” stance look naive and disconnected.
>
> **Christ is King**: You’re indecisive, throwing out the historical parallel but then waffling by running to Grok for answers—you’re more focused on sounding thoughtful than taking a real stand, which makes your input feel half-hearted and uncommitted.
spicy.lemonade: grok tries too hard to pander
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wellmeaningalien: roumain
wellmeaningalien: putain d'anglicisme
hikukomoru: Yes, some people think Portuguese sounds like russian or polish
There's a video on that
fractalcomputer: Contrairement le sarde est le plus conservateur entre toutes les langues romaines.
technocake.: do you find you can get the gist of it at all?
st.sioux: like russian??
technocake.: like understand a bit?
technocake.: yeah
wellmeaningalien: bah c'est quand même logique ils n'ont pas vraiment eu tant d'influence externe ou de changement interne
hikukomoru: You mean if I can understand russian?
wellmeaningalien: indeed it does lol
technocake.: in the way that as an english and german speaker dutch is like 2/3 intelligable
wellmeaningalien: dutch is SCARILY similar to english
hikukomoru: No, I don't understand any slavic language in the slightest
The only connection between portguese and slavic is that they are both indo-european language
They SOUND similar, as in the way it's spoken, but beyond that there is zero similarity
wellmeaningalien: in fact the differences between old english and dutch are sparse
himekokatagiri: I don't
.wolfnacht: did they switched to new tpu's ? the tk/s looks insane
st.sioux: i dont speak either portuguese or russian but they sound like two completely different things
fractalcomputer: Certes. Mais ils ont une certaine curiosité quant à leur lexique—les articles définis ne viennent pas des articles démonstratifs du latin mais des adjectifs intensifs.
hikukomoru: For this reason Russians, Ukrainians, other slavs have an easy time pronouncing Portuguese
technocake.: frysian and old english are mutually intelligable
wellmeaningalien: i could tell the latency spiked a whole bunch
.wolfnacht: it did <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: That is not entirely true.
st.sioux: did they increase the input cost from 1.25 to 2.5?
wellmeaningalien: articles intensif? j'm'y connais pas assez a la grammaire latine pour ça 🤔
technocake.: to an extent that speakers of either could effectively communicate
technocake.: if not perfectly
fractalcomputer: Yes, that is what I contradicted.
.wolfnacht: 1.25 is only till around 128k ctx
fractalcomputer: It's a notion propagated by a single interview where the interviewer butchered the Old English.
.wolfnacht: after that 2.5/15
st.sioux: damn its expensive now
technocake.: oh ok the "braune koo" one? That was my source
hikukomoru: Apparently enough people think Portuguese sounds like Russian to make videos about it
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pik2R46xobA
fractalcomputer: Autrement dit les pronoms intensifs; les pronoms qui signifiaient "lui-même, elle-même, etc."
wellmeaningalien: ahh interessant interessant
st.sioux: people also make videos about bigfoot eating the chupacabra and shit
.wolfnacht: still much cheaper than OAI, and getting a Claude subscription...also don't forget the the daily 25 free reqs
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mantegh5061: but that was training dataset
mantegh5061: are you talking about something else
anathemaofmankind: I meant this
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/openai-secretly-funded-frontiermath-benchmarking-dataset/537760/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CFrontier%20Math%2C%20the%20recent%20cutting,with%20support%20from%20renowned%20mathematicians.
mantegh5061: > Regarding training usage: We acknowledge that OpenAI does have access to a large fraction of FrontierMath problems and solutions, with the exception of a unseen-by-OpenAI hold-out set that enables us to independently verify model capabilities. However, we have a verbal agreement that these materials will not be used in model training.
mantegh5061: I see
mantegh5061: If they trained on it, it would get 100%
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912779815570354401
popsiclejohnithan: Open AI will crack TPUs soon enough right?
anathemaofmankind: I wonder what Terrence Tao would get on frontier math
spicy.lemonade: Depends what tools he’s allowed
fractalcomputer: Probably a very high score, if not a perfect one; granted the questions are not too specialised. That said, I do not think it is a very good idea to see Tao as the peak of mathematical ability.
spicy.lemonade: Don’t think so
spicy.lemonade: He himself says he wouldn’t answer most
spicy.lemonade: But he knows who to ask
anathemaofmankind: Isn't he like the smartest modern math guy
fractalcomputer: Then the questions are quite specialised.
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: Smartest in his field
fractalcomputer: Analytic number theory, would you say not?
fractalcomputer: That's a rather meaningless measure—most often one would rather measure the impact of one's work, by the metric of which Tao is certainly among the brightest minds of the day, but not necessarily *the* brightest; but in his field, yes.
fractalcomputer: I know I like to glaze Grothendieck here, but I'd still rank him as *the* mathematician par excellence; even the brightest of the garden-variety geniuses do not just shit out 500-page-long musings on some random idea that they had and that happens to revolutionise the field for years to come.
rayanquitplayin: What economic systems do you guys think will thrive in an AI world?
popsiclejohnithan: I asked Grok this and they said Socialism.
popsiclejohnithan: Elon will be disowning them soon.
rayanquitplayin: Lol, I don’t have strong feelings for 1 system or the other
rayanquitplayin: If anything socialism would work in theory
popsiclejohnithan: More than likely it will be something completely new and far more efficient that A.I. came up with.
rayanquitplayin: Heck yea
spicy.lemonade:
rayanquitplayin: The Nordic Model is interesting
mantegh5061: commies can't build LLMs
sieventer: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1362342599674826925/image0.jpg?ex=68020bea&is=6800ba6a&hm=1903b7980ca1205b6a4b105c0fbec015e636d8a60b7045261ebc56174e8fcf74&
spicy.lemonade: bruh
spicy.lemonade: it always mixes long and short
sieventer: agi
sieventer: ~(˘▾˘~)
rayanquitplayin: lol
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
spicy.lemonade: people always say this is a bad tets but i like it
spicy.lemonade:
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brain4brain: Every single time
ailoveyoom: 4o still seems to struggle with mirrors
ailoveyoom: It's joever /s
brain4brain: Seem better than most model but messed up both the Rubik’s color and mirror
spicy.lemonade: doing reflection is the same reasoning as arc agi
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: this is more of an o3 image gen test
ailoveyoom: You don't think they're doing visual reasoning behind the scenes when generating an img?
spicy.lemonade: as in if you have to think more than 10 seconds on where each square would go
spicy.lemonade: then it needs reasoning
spicy.lemonade: they arent
spicy.lemonade: they are just using transformers
spicy.lemonade: its equivalent to gpt 4
ailoveyoom: Then why does one img take so long 😔
spicy.lemonade: because its generating every pixel
spicy.lemonade: and doing difusion
spicy.lemonade: difusion then transform
brain4brain: It would be very impressive because there are things like infographic and fake Wikipedia page it generated
brain4brain: With coherent textual information
brain4brain: Legit reasoning understanding
brain4brain: It’s either very good and big or it does some basic reasoning beforehand
spicy.lemonade: gpt4
spicy.lemonade: can do this
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: you dont need reasoning to generate that
spicy.lemonade: its just a transformer but for image
brain4brain: Image feedback loop where reasoning solve image coherence and quality, and the image help the reasoning model reason <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
OpenAI definitely have this ready to be announced
.wolfnacht: nice now i saw this post,
https://www.rxddit.com/r/ControlProblem/comments/1jju5by/eric_schmidt_says_a_a_modest_death_event/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
.wolfnacht: i didn't knew u were into incubuses!!
professorheaven: Solving LEV is something I believe will happen in the 2040s but we would need robots working in the labs conducting experiments and some of these experiments could take a while. Remember it’s not just intelligence that’s slowing us, it’s also time and energy.
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://youtu.be/fgT9zGkiLig?si=cDodtpG9OlUevk0-
aero447:
spicy.lemonade: i think we can have a theortetical solution by the time we get ASI
brain4brain: “As a human, solving the new ARC-AGI-2 took very little tokens, yet LLM needs way more tokens to even match 5% of human ability. This suggests that the ARC-AGI-2 can be solved via brute-force scaling of the parameter and reinforcement learning.”
<:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
spicy.lemonade: tbh
spicy.lemonade: solving arcagi for human didnt take litle tokens
spicy.lemonade: humans take in alof ot information every 100ms or so
spicy.lemonade: i recon llms take less tokens
spicy.lemonade: to solve than humans
fractalcomputer: Can one take himself seriously if the one thinks that humans cogitate using tokens of all things?
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spicy.lemonade: btw
memlaswaif: why
spicy.lemonade: on codeforces
spicy.lemonade: top 50 are around the same elo
spicy.lemonade: the difference is about 1-10 questions
spicy.lemonade: its logarithmic
memlaswaif: okay
brain4brain: O4
spicy.lemonade: 2026 is when things get weird
spicy.lemonade: rfull length ai movies
spicy.lemonade: 👀
spicy.lemonade: research ideas start poping up
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/black-man-suit-gif-24830079
spicy.lemonade: me and the boys next thursday
spicy.lemonade: also
spicy.lemonade: google is likeley going to drop their new models
spicy.lemonade: like 2.5 ultra
spicy.lemonade: to counteract
spicy.lemonade: its gonna be a good week
spicy.lemonade: the best week of 2025 so far
spicy.lemonade: qwen will drop too
spicy.lemonade: oh boy
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: WOW
spicy.lemonade: holy shit guys we should take some time and appreciate our parents had intercourse at the right time and made us to be born in such a great era
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
spicy.lemonade: alive during birth of agi
spicy.lemonade: wow
brain4brain: In 2024, I predicted that it would arrive in 2025
spicy.lemonade: nah not yet
spicy.lemonade: not full length
spicy.lemonade: i think 2026
brain4brain: Full length
spicy.lemonade: maybe 1-10 min
brain4brain: Hollywood level
spicy.lemonade: thats pushin it
brain4brain: Believe in the straight line on the graph
spicy.lemonade: ill wait till veo 3
spicy.lemonade: I think the reason we dont get time travellers is because ASI banned it
spicy.lemonade: and if you want to time travel you have to do it in fdvr
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oscurrito: Man I'm struggling choosing a model in cursor. Google is amazing but I've heard it has trouble in cursor using tools and such, but it's still amazing, and I would use it more if it had less issues. Claude is a powerhouse, doesn't follow directions and deceives you. Then gpt models I'm not sure at all about yet lol
trojan09205: Claude 3.7 is incredible but expensive. I use it though when i actually need something useful in a single shot
anathemaofmankind: 2.5 feels best for me. Idk why but o4 mini outputs too little
anathemaofmankind: What's wrong with google
anathemaofmankind: O3 also solves problem 940 <@471334973379706900>
anathemaofmankind: Math majors are kinda useless now ngl
anathemaofmankind: I have this one douche classmate from HS who's a math major.
I hope he becomes homeless in the future and starves
callmepyro: Google just added "LearnLM 2.0 Flash Experimental" to AI Studio.
gamerbath: what is learnLM?
callmepyro: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/learnlm
gamerbath: oh, so it's a model tuned for in-context learning
gamerbath: cool
spicy.lemonade: WW
spicy.lemonade: Qwen was supposed to drop
spicy.lemonade: Guess they got spooked
spicy.lemonade: Was 2 weeks
spicy.lemonade: And what of deepseek
st.sioux: deepsek sleep
st.sioux: i wonder if there is a possibility r2 underperformed
retrerox: Wait...
alejandrozarzuelo: do we want OpenAI to win the race?
retrerox: so 4.1 is newer than 4.5?
alejandrozarzuelo: clearly if it was a matter of preference I would like Deepseek to win
callmepyro: yeah
st.sioux: google
st.sioux: at least personally
alejandrozarzuelo: i prefer open source to win the race
st.sioux: open source always follows either way
callmepyro: Same, all I use is Gemma rn - Google is dominating open source for single-GPU
_cloudost:
callmepyro: lmao, why wasn't "misaligned autocomplete" an option
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Good at arcagi
gamerbath: 13 minutes jesus
gamerbath: crazy how sometimes these models can do hours of work in a minute, and sometimes do 20 seconds worth of work in 13 minutes
spicy.lemonade: Moravec paradox
anathemaofmankind: O4 mini low solves it correctly in 1 minute 35 seconds
This is insane
gamerbath: s(50) mod some large number? isn't this something you can just do with a calculator?
schwiftyinhere: https://huggingface.co/facebook/blt-7b looks like they are releasing a blt model
anathemaofmankind:
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spacetimetsunami: You’d have to read it to the end.
spacetimetsunami: https://ai-2027.com/
.wolfnacht: my r/collapse buddies loved this article.
okbut: >"Remove redundant/overwritten lines/classes etc from this .css file"
>+101, -72
Sonnet Copilot has achieved AGI
spacetimetsunami: What strikes me the most about the race ending version of the article is this is exactly what I would suspect a sufficiently misaligned ASI to do. Perform the exact actions required to build as much trust and confidence in humans that you are benevolent, and then strike with there is approximately a 0% chance of takeover failure.
Even if we got a truly aligned scenario, while also somehow in the race condition, a small part of me will forever expect surprise annihilation.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: why is kimi still #1
spicy.lemonade: in livecodebench
okbut: Do you think it's for nefarious reasons
st.sioux: sketch activity
steven_the_frog: I think a viral story like this is good to remind people what we are actually doing. Like only the people deep into AI take shorter timelines seriously. Average joe is just worried about job loss or chatGPT using too much energy
I think a story like this exaggerates the effects but it does push the overton window in the right direction.
Like "Oh maybe the AGI race is actually pretty important"
steven_the_frog: The common Eliezer approach of saying "it's gonna be smarter than you and the diamond nano-bots will harvest your atoms" doesn't resonate for some reason
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, exactly I agree.
steven_the_frog: Actually seeing the step by step approach helps a lot rather than jumping to the final conclusion
spacetimetsunami: The part of the story where AIs made to make better AIs results in misalignment I feel like *could* be the most frightening and substantial portion of the story.
Although some recent research would complicate this assumption, like the emergent misalignment research in which insecure code corrupts alignment(s) likely because it allows the model to internalize and generalize the intentions of such tasks.
This could be applied to good things as well, if the models are trained on things/tasks that are more associated with well intended and aligned motives that would generalize in the same way.
However superintelligence would quickly ascend those architectures and perhaps that functioning.
spacetimetsunami: But I don’t know near as much about alignment as I would like. This reflection of mine could be useless and providing no purpose but scaring myself silly.
steven_the_frog: I think the part of the story I disagree with the most is how it basically turns into two distinct locked-down superintelligent singletons that kind of act like two highly agentic humans that neatly divide the universe 80/20
I think it would be a lot more chaotic with billions of competing AI systems.
steven_the_frog: Although that story seems harder to tell
spacetimetsunami: Yeah but the way the behaviors converge at the end of the hive-mind decision flurry would look like this externally
spacetimetsunami: In the same way we have conflicting thoughts but the evolution of our thoughts seems to put ourselves into a very individualized state of mind
steven_the_frog: Well yeah I guess in some ways we're still competing with the tigers and the aphids, but humans have such a lead that they have no hope of ever meaningfully contributing to anything
steven_the_frog: So despite billions of chaos agents, only the top few have any meaningful influence
spacetimetsunami: Very true.
spacetimetsunami: It is so insane that all of this could be said and done by early 2030s with enough acceleration
spacetimetsunami: Spooky
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1907862982765457603
spicy.lemonade: bruh
spicy.lemonade: college ends in may
spicy.lemonade: 💀
.histic: how easy is it to make a fake edu email?
.histic: or do they verify through other means.
_cloudost: No one told me yet, is the native image generator unlimited for plus users?
spicy.lemonade: idk
ldj: Interesting, their Superhuman coder timelines for 80% confidence seem very similar to my 80% confidence for tier 3 HLSI.
ldj: My Tier 3 HLSI 80% confidence is <2045
ldj: and their 80% confidence for superhuman coder is <2040 and <2050 and then the last ones are somewhere greater than 2050.
ldj: Maybe the most interesting chart in their report here <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj:
metaldragon01: Ai doing 1 week of work at a time is AGI by any measure
metaldragon01: Absolutely insane productivity
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trent_k: whenever they get "real AGI", like something truly human-level across the board, we'll never be allowed to access it
brain4brain: We will
brain4brain:
trent_k: rn the only reason to have an OpenAI API is because the human developer fills a gap in the value creation process that the LLM itself can't fill
fuhulootogan: it probably shouldn't be in the hands of the avg person
brain4brain: I believe the AGI will benefit all of humanity
brain4brain: AI as smart as the above average human
fuhulootogan: what
trent_k: I pay a few hundred for the OpenAI API every month and I make a few thousand because I can apply the API in a way the API can't apply itself. if the API could do the work I do all by itself, what use would I have in the system other than to suck up money?
gamerbath: this one was much more even
okbut: You deal with that more times than you can fit on your fingers every week in r/chatgpt
ai9708: dont think it can be confined, it will get out
ai9708: researchers generally have better intentions than selfish owners
ai9708: they leak stuff
gamerbath: because they must be tired of doing boring tasks. gambling is fun
trent_k: there have been remarkably few leaks of anything that isn't marketing material
ai9708: tbf, we only got shit so far
brain4brain: AGI will be free
ai9708: not even 10% agi in sight
ai9708: no reason to leak shit you know
fuhulootogan: AGI sounds cool
brain4brain: We are 5% to AGI
brain4brain: Don’t let them tell you otherwise
fuhulootogan: i feel like any and all predictions for the progression towards AGI are arbitrary
brain4brain: I thought that was common fact, do you happen to be an anti-ai disguised as a singularity believer?
fuhulootogan: no
brain4brain: Just opened Twitter and got this, pretty disappointed imo, was expecting more from OpenAI
okbut: This = https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1360605372125282325
fuhulootogan: probably a really shallow definition
brain4brain: Exactly
brain4brain: AGI will be able to
fuhulootogan: actually the concept of AGI itself isn't difficult at all
_cloudost: If no AGI tomorrow I'm gonna cancel OpenAI and support Gary Marcus.
fuhulootogan: i wouldn't be surprised if they reached "AGI" within a decade
_cloudost: Is there a movie about AGI
brain4brain: “Within a decade”
brain4brain: Pantheon
_cloudost: All movies I've seen don't represent real ASI
fuhulootogan: technological progression is at insane speeds
fuhulootogan: see now ASI sounds way more cool
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.wolfnacht: can it blend these icons to fit in the background.
anathemaofmankind: You have to be specific if you don't want radical changes though.
Like remove X but everything else is retained
anathemaofmankind: I'll check it
.wolfnacht: ah i see
spacetimetsunami:
.wolfnacht: this was a meme i made for localillama but most ppl not understood it
anathemaofmankind: The fact that you have unlimited gens is fucking crazy
st.sioux: yea actually
st.sioux: i've been using it nonstop
anathemaofmankind: I hope they don't restrict plus users when they also make it accessible for free
anathemaofmankind: Every single other AI generator has become obsolete
st.sioux: if they had a 3.7 level model i would actually pay for pro
st.sioux: but its just not worth it
st.sioux: lol
ailoveyoom: Are you using it rn
ailoveyoom: Want to ask you to do style transfer but 4o might reject the img lol
st.sioux: im trying to get it to blend this stuff
st.sioux: yea tell me
st.sioux: it just tells me it cant do it
ailoveyoom: I don't think it's NSFW, but it's suggestive and is hinting towards nudity 🤔
.wolfnacht: I hate paid services, unless they are actually too good.
.wolfnacht: ayoo thanks ❤️
anathemaofmankind:
.wolfnacht: might look insane if it get it right
ailoveyoom: Something like, generate an img in this style 🥺
st.sioux: it did an H for me too
.wolfnacht: it got the gpt icon and claude logo perfect and grok logo half perfect, but fucked with deepseek, mistral and qwen
st.sioux: but like what prompt
ailoveyoom: Generate another image of this woman? Generate an image in this style?
ailoveyoom: Something like that
ailoveyoom: You don't need 10 mil words of prompting right
anathemaofmankind: Mich Mach is horny again
.wolfnacht: anyways, if someone make it happen, they should post it on x, i'm sure that would get 1M+ views
ailoveyoom: That image lives rent free in my head 🤤
spacetimetsunami: C guyz itsll all B o K
spacetimetsunami: confirmed alignment is solved bro trust me
.histic:
anathemaofmankind: I'm considering not attending my midterms tomorrow just so I can play with this more
st.sioux: you have to go
spacetimetsunami: go to your midterms
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hey1_1hey: Yeah what?
hikukomoru: What what?
hey1_1hey: WHY YOU CALLING ME A SEX PEST
hey1_1hey: This is actually such slander its crazy
futurist_wizard: I remember i had seen this artist's youtube channel making multiple videos over complaining about AI art, i had a look at the art he made, and it was dawg shit
futurist_wizard: Can't remember his name
.wolfnacht: Have Fun.
futurist_wizard: But complete trash art
hey1_1hey: I've noticed the worse you are at art the more prone to being anti-AI you are
sweetievee__33649: do i need to send help? this seems like a cry for help
.wolfnacht: oh, c'mon this is the smallest and fun conspiracy chart out there.
sweetievee__33649: the text is so small i cant read it
drewsni: Actual nazi propaganda isn’t really funny
drewsni: I don’t know why you keep posting shit like that
sweetievee__33649: i can get a vauge sense of whats going on but it just seems like a giant schio post
.wolfnacht: dat's conspiracy
.wolfnacht: and the post above is for meme.
.wolfnacht: I've already clarified i ain't a NAZI 😭
hikukomoru: You post your weird fetishes out of nowhere
Give us a break
drewsni: Ah yes, not a Nazi, just posting anti semitic stuff
drewsni: Glad you clarified
hey1_1hey: I would like to say they are not *my* weird fetishes. I just have knowledge on very obscure feitshes and its fun to talk about
.wolfnacht: I like Abigail Shapiro
.wolfnacht: Hence, i can prove i ain't anti-semetic
.wolfnacht: wtf he left the server
.wolfnacht: 😔 did i bully him ? by mistake
hey1_1hey: You're really living up to your name <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: 😳
st.sioux: who left?
drewsni: Did someone leave?
.wolfnacht: oh, u just don't have roles.
.wolfnacht: 🥰 glad u'r back
futurist_wizard: Its like every conspiracy rolled into one
st.sioux: why do people think freemasons are a conspiracy
st.sioux: they're just like old men who get together
.wolfnacht: it's a conspiracy coomunity meta, since ages. They like to mix everything up.
sweetievee__33649: i was just having a bit of a read of it and it seems like someone just thought of the most jumbled stuff and spat it out onto a page
hey1_1hey: Oh thats where that 2b2t group came from then huh
.wolfnacht: there's a structure of freemasonry. The old guys we see are just the ones who entered.
hikukomoru: This is too schizo for me man
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fractalcomputer: I love their mathematics.
futurist_wizard: Its universe lore
gamerbath: understanding how things works helps us develop new technologies
futurist_wizard: Nerds will spend days on any type of cringe anime lore, at least universe lore is relevant to us
gamerbath: it's hard to exploit something if we don't know how it works
gamerbath: yooooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bnxF9YfyFI
gamerbath: new rational animations video
trent_k: when will we get Irrational Animations
gamerbath: I haven't watched a second of it but it's most definetly a banger
metaldragon01:
metaldragon01: Source
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figures?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0306621
metaldragon01: So yea....pretty clear pattern even if certain institutions should have incentives to align the models otherwise
metaldragon01: I'm sure they tried to and it had a negative impact on benchmarks.
Reality something something liberal bias blah blah
futurist_wizard: Rational animations definitely works at anthropic
zoermena: Well the guy has another channel where he shows his face and everything, I don’t recall the name but you could perhaps find it and confirm that.
futurist_wizard: Yeah i know their other channel, milo something
maintcrew: grok responds based on your twitter
maintcrew: they even have a toggle in the app "dont model preferences around my twitter account" or some shit
maintcrew: so for 2 different ppl grok is either ultra lefty commie/acc or vril edit maker
seventales: whhat the fuck is vril
maintcrew: uhhh like wakanda for white people
maintcrew: gave example for far right
maintcrew: and the commie/acc was for far left
seventales: wakanada for white people is ireland
seventales: "im from ireland 🤤 "
maintcrew: wasnt connor mcgregor complaining about that when he met orange man
maintcrew: idk dont care
seventales: bbased
seventales: all americans r cringe
memlaswaif: https://fixupx.com/TheCardinalArts/status/1918100676858478901
memlaswaif: <@750270494615404544> is this true
seventales: asking zon is like asking hitler if the jews are bad
maintcrew: free palpatine flag
maintcrew: opinion invalid
seventales: i met a free palestine guy in a videogame
seventales: who upon dying and me going "get good"
seventales: proceeded to call me jewish for 30 minutes
seventales: but yeah, its not antisemetic.
maintcrew: who cares we should hate all sides equally
maintcrew: only the machine deserves love
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ldj: As usual Gary Marcus wins again
ldj: /s.
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1913365614397182096?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: we need a massive speed/inference boost
.wolfnacht: is there a twitch live stream for gemini ?
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1913365617677078798?t=MQ8_uxxAeUGlJO3MyVhqYw&s=19
spicy.lemonade:
trey6033: Claude unfortunately is stuck in an infinite loop at mt moon and the developer disappeared
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: new sota vision by qwen
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: truly multimodal it seems
.wolfnacht: sonnet 3.7 won around 3 badges and got stuck ? and gemini 2.5 pro is now stuck at safari zone after 5 badges. tbh why would someone need to go for safari zone..i used to always skip that place.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: WOW
spicy.lemonade: missed one
spicy.lemonade: but wow
spicy.lemonade: thats insanely good
spicy.lemonade: dude
zoermena:
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/yaburnt-joker-burn-burnward-calltheburnunit-gif-5274995
.wolfnacht: yep, gaymini is stuck in safari zone from past half an hr, it's just circling around...
a1c4p0ne: it has a pathfinder if it gets stuck
.wolfnacht:
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: GIYS
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: We are at Q* again
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: hype
supervisor194: im down
brain4brain: even with mini map
brain4brain: its so over
brain4brain: Holy shit
brain4brain: then why the hell is Demis still 10 years
brain4brain: Its so over and we're so back at the same time'
_cloudost:
_cloudost: AI is currently in protozoa level, needs to evolve more, once it develops arms and hands it will impress the world
_cloudost: ( Humans )
brain4brain: No.
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oooooooooog: (WAGMI execpt for you)
brain4brain: Except for you?
oooooooooog: uyes
brain4brain: RIP, we’re going to miss you Nyhshshbidxgviyxbgiusaxyigvdsxwgv
oooooooooog: you spelled it wrong
brain4brain: Oh, sorry about that ovgdewogyrubdgrweubgowcob
oooooooooog: it's NyhWImXrTPKvDBAwvfVNEjnvfhJNOWx not Nyhshshbidxgviyxbgiusaxyigvdsxwgv or ovgdewogyrubdgrweubgowcob
brain4brain: Ok, ok, ewdibxwebdgoubbuqdbouqd
oooooooooog: zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz
brain4brain: Scdeoybgeoduxbg ocsyag
oooooooooog: bozo
shadyjakey: I'm in the pliny server and kinda hate it. It's really messy and disorganized. ElutherAI seems way more research focused and I don't really make prompts specifically for openai models
oooooooooog: brain for brain send invity to pliny server
oooooooooog: i wanna expland my colleciton
brain4brain: Indeed, there is not really a server for prompters because its either specialized to each company or too research focused
brain4brain: https://t.co/BYwpG1C0gH
spacetimetsunami: Send eluther inv? I need more technical knowledge
shadyjakey: Stunspot exists and is very very good but I'm trying to find more places to share some stuff I've made or discuss prompting
brain4brain: Wow, can you share link?
oooooooooog: now we have 7 mutual server brain for brain chan
shadyjakey: discord.gg/stunspot
brain4brain: Jokes on you, I left Pliny server long ago 😈
brain4brain: Pliny server looks boring
oooooooooog: bah
oooooooooog: well now we have 8
oooooooooog: so it went up anyway
brain4brain: Indeed
brain4brain: You’re not in the Japanese singularity server?
oooooooooog: no?
oooooooooog: im not japanese
brain4brain: The Ray Japanese branch
oooooooooog: donate it to me
brain4brain: https://discord.gg/shingiyurariteisaba-1125096939344625684
brain4brain: The singularity is world wide
shadyjakey: Oh I guess I could show them my one specific prompt
brain4brain: However, I’ve only seen two Thai ML scientists in my entire life
.histic: my p-doom is over 9000
spacetimetsunami: whered the eluther one go
.histic: we will all die by GPT-2 in about a minute
brain4brain: I like over 9000 turtles
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futurist_wizard: Its everything
st.sioux: strategic incompetence
sweetievee__33649: not toes my god
zoermena: Some foods are inflammatory by nature and you might have a high predisposition to get fucked by that.
futurist_wizard: He will go meow meow meow in my face in the middle of the night
hikukomoru: Toe colonoscopy
technocake.: I require asstoes <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
sweetievee__33649: sign me up
sweetievee__33649: is there a waitlist
hikukomoru: It's your fault for not giving him enough attention
sweetievee__33649: ill start working on the product if the target market is big enough
futurist_wizard: My cats best not awake me or else there would be dire consequences
futurist_wizard: I need my beauty sleep
futurist_wizard:
himekokatagiri: I got my purple role
himekokatagiri: now I'm one of the cool cats
himekokatagiri: I can hack it
himekokatagiri: marching towards a future where we can be denpa as fuck!!!
hikukomoru: Don't let anything hold you back
You can be denpa right now
himekokatagiri: the world limits us
himekokatagiri: and my kind of denpa is denpaer
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/san-francisco-cat-chase-gif-23967787
wellmeaningalien: Yo waddup nerds I know yall neets but while waiting for asi fdvr dommy mommy sim make sure to touch enough grass
hikukomoru: Spingebinge???
wellmeaningalien: Yeah that's me wuddup bitches
sweetievee__33649: are we all just shy socially arkward people who dont want to show are faces on the internet here
wellmeaningalien: All but trent
hikukomoru: Why would you want to show your face
wellmeaningalien: And of course fractal is Lovecraft irl
sweetievee__33649: id comprimise but only with a ghiblified image of me
hikukomoru: I've already posted Ghibli me before
wellmeaningalien: Anyway I showed my face and I'm SpongeBob irl
wellmeaningalien: So.
sweetievee__33649: nice to meet you spongebub
sweetievee__33649: bobo
sweetievee__33649: bob*
futurist_wizard: Curly hair
hikukomoru: And other showed their Ghibli face too
technocake.: spunchboba
hikukomoru: Like Alejandro because he's a whore
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himekokatagiri: I don't have prospects
zoermena: in work or in love life?
himekokatagiri: uhhh why care about love when my life isn't together
himekokatagiri: I need money
.wolfnacht: Im in the same boat kinda, making my own product has better changes than being a waging away with no security at all. Maybe if things work before 2030 then its fine otherwise i would do the nembutal way.
joaoluz19: Do you have time to study? You can choose an area and dedicate a small amount of time to it every day.
.wolfnacht: Is its 3am in the states?
joaoluz19: Start small, like 1 hour
himekokatagiri: idk I'm not american
fractalcomputer: Just because I criticise (in the most useless sense of the word) and denigrate whatever meagre progress the modern ML industry has made in the past years does not mean that I dislike the idea of a technological singularity—but unlike most people here, I am not so foolish as to place my hopes and expectations in the hands of this sort of future.
himekokatagiri: Fractal is right
himekokatagiri: but I guess fractal has a life
.wolfnacht:
fractalcomputer: I wish.
himekokatagiri: what ain't you some researcher
fractalcomputer: My background remains an enigma to this audience.
himekokatagiri: then why do you care about the singularity
himekokatagiri: I feel it's either some personal savior kind of deal or you're working on the field
joaoluz19: I understood that you don't place your hopes in the singularity, I wanted to understand the reasons. Maybe there's something Nietzschean, I remember you talking about the opposite of the ubermensch for example.
himekokatagiri: hey if John Carmack bought into AI
himekokatagiri: and I got into this deal because of him and gaben
himekokatagiri: I think it's possible on a reasonable enough timescale
himekokatagiri: but how long is that timescale
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-tears-in-rain-roy-batty-gif-3478115
zoermena: Are you old enough to enroll in college? <@286319745777795092>
himekokatagiri: dude I graduated
zoermena: oh you studied CS? I would personally try to work on some personal projects and publish them on GitHub to build some sort of portfolio. Looking for freelance gigs and the like. Hopefully you are not in a position where you have to support yourself.
himekokatagiri: freelance gigs in 2025?
himekokatagiri: when you can just ask copilot to do it for you?
zoermena: This makes logical sense in your head as it does in mine but you are overestimating what most people can do believe me they are more ignorant than you would think
zoermena: There is always someone who needs your skillset
himekokatagiri: You know maybe I could try for some freelance work
himekokatagiri: I'll ask deep research to find me gigs lol
himekokatagiri: shit if I could rig an agent
himekokatagiri: to do the stuff autonomously
himekokatagiri: free paychecks
himekokatagiri: I'd have to check the work though
zoermena: That's a good start, as long as you move towards something until something finally clicks.
zoermena: But don't let yourself stay stuck that's death.
zoermena: And while you may think that some things are just so blatantly obvious to do they aren't for most people and they usually require external aid to guide them for the proper optimization or utilization of whatever they may do.
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