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spicy.lemonade: a1c4p0ne: move 37 spicy.lemonade: new google model made this spicy.lemonade: WTF fractalcomputer: Your point being? spicy.lemonade: google is about to drop sota again a1c4p0ne: 🤷‍♂️ a1c4p0ne: better than 2.5? spicy.lemonade: yes a1c4p0ne: what is it called spicy.lemonade: dragontail a1c4p0ne: nice name spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be the last pure model that we use via chat interface ldj: Hi spicy.lemonade: arc 3 tests agency and more nuanced reasoning at once spicy.lemonade: i think the model that saturates arc3 will be agi spicy.lemonade: arc3 looks to be a very good agi test spicy.lemonade: like youre plopped into a random game and you have to learn the rules and actions to take .wolfnacht: gamerbath: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: thats crazy .wolfnacht: u know i searched "dragon tail" on gifs here and then decided not to send any. okbut: COO's stock sells btw a1c4p0ne: send it and @ fractal fractalcomputer: I hope not. a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> .wolfnacht: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> .wolfnacht: he's always listening a1c4p0ne: he sees everything .wolfnacht: idk a shit abt stock market....i guess i need to learn it fast, before it's too late fractalcomputer: He says he will never die. _cloudost: okbut: In the full picture he scheduled these sales as far back as last year Unfortunately the news caught up by then fractalcomputer: "*His feet are light and nimble. He never sleeps. He says that he will never die. He dances in light and in shadow and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.*" spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: WOW spicy.lemonade: optimus alpha _cloudost: OpenAI never ceases to cook .wolfnacht: so he's losing everyone's trust investors and market ? .wolfnacht: well, that's good
retrerox: idk retrerox: I should ask chat gpt what are their pronouns? archon.e: Good and bad are relative retrerox: There is gonna be people wanting human art like there is still people wanting traditional art alejandrozarzuelo: AI has goals and tools to accomplish them, just as we do couldnt you say we do what biology tells us to do? at this point you get into free will theory hikukomoru: Bro stop bringing up the dictionary for every word fuhulootogan: congrats you're a moral relativist fuhulootogan: no alejandrozarzuelo: I just want most artist to lose their jobs, if a few remain doing the little art people are willing to pay because its human made its ok fuhulootogan: lol hikukomoru: Define "lol" retrerox: "living out lungs" alejandrozarzuelo: dont let perfect be the enemy of good, 99% artist unemployment is 99% as good as 100% st.sioux: but what is a lung if not a construct of our mind? archon.e: Jobs won’t be there. Money will be a thing of the past archon.e: I’ve been recently watching the orville archon.e: So much relate fuhulootogan: i ask for the definition to be on the same page as my interlocutor to prevent any confusion archon.e: To what’s going to happen fuhulootogan: nay nay archon.e: Replicators will be common place alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully we wont need physical bodies when we merge with the ASI archon.e: Exploration of the universe will be the last frontier for humanity. I hope I can stay alive for that archon.e: Yeah merging with ai is an option fuhulootogan: i feel like this is becoming boring fuhulootogan: i pull the white flag 🏳️ alejandrozarzuelo: its not a competition fuhulootogan: i know fuhulootogan: it isn't archon.e: But without bodies will we still have wants? fuhulootogan: "white flag" means i give up archon.e: Will an ai system that becomes conscious have wants? alejandrozarzuelo: its just that you need to realize that unless you EXCLUSIVELY require biology, AI is indeed an intelligence with all that comes from it archon.e: Consciousness is so easy for nature archon.e: Hopefully some day we will be able to replicate it archon.e: We can create an improved version of ourself in our image fuhulootogan: no fuhulootogan: what do you mean by that alejandrozarzuelo: in any case <@1212375743863066645> its ok if you dont wan to call AI art as art, what matters is the material reality, which hopefully will unemploy almost all artists dont call it art, the replacement and elimination of their jobs is independent on how you choose to call it fuhulootogan: AI is artificial intelligence
establishedyoungman: Anyone know how to run hugging face llm on local enviroments I wanna use an image generator aero447: Guys. aero447: aero447: How good is 4b really. spicy.lemonade: I predict each year spicy.lemonade: we have a new paradigm shift spicy.lemonade: late 2023 to late 2024 was multimodality spicy.lemonade: late 2024 to late 2025 is reasoners spicy.lemonade: and ofc late 2022 to late 2023 was text generation spicy.lemonade: late 2025 to late 2026? maybe streamers or something else new zoermena: The era of experience st.sioux: download lmstudio its pretty straightforward st.sioux: idk if it does images tho establishedyoungman: I can run the model via that though? metaldragon01: I'll be disappointed if no avatars by this time st.sioux: idk honestly i use stablediffusion webui for images st.sioux: look up automatic1111 on github establishedyoungman: I did but when I open it says I have to downgrade my version of python establishedyoungman: is that a simple process <@1316552597829586955> st.sioux: ask gpt it will be more useful than me establishedyoungman: Ok just such a pain it isnt compatiable with most recent version of python establishedyoungman: lol establishedyoungman: ofc.. establishedyoungman: maybe waiting for a space is a better solution spicy.lemonade: we can make avatars today spicy.lemonade: no one will use joaoluz19: Guys nothing happens wtf joaoluz19: It's over for singularity metaldragon01: Not high enough quality yet metaldragon01: And not low enough cost st.sioux: ive seen them used in shitty chinese product ads metaldragon01: Companions are absolutely the product of the future metaldragon01: The voice will need a face, personality, and maybe even a life outside of its users joaoluz19: Now I am feeling the AGI metaldragon01: Everyone is scared to really push voice but it's coming one way or another metaldragon01: Market gets what it wants spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 native can make fake ids: spicy.lemonade: much better than 4o native image gen spicy.lemonade: more realistic spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru: HELLO KITTY KRATOS wellmeaningalien: some people would already consider o1 AGI in some regards spicy.lemonade: the brush strokes spicy.lemonade: are so clean wellmeaningalien: 2 more generations i dont doubt it sarik0497: Can you make one of the Lego City that was ALWAYS shown on TV a few years back? hikukomoru: Why _wwwwww: I don't remember spicy.lemonade: need new model spicy.lemonade: o3 full when hikukomoru: Dopamine receptors fried 🥀 spicy.lemonade: scratch that spicy.lemonade: o4 hikukomoru: Scratch that AGI sarik0497: I don’t see GPT 7 coming out until at least 2028-2029 at the earliest wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: hey1_1hey: This goes hard asf wellmeaningalien: st.sioux: would be so cool if it got the colors right wellmeaningalien: spicy.lemonade: Loll wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: warning wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> <@430269783112548362> youre gonna love this one _wwwwww: singularity is now wellmeaningalien: NSFW _wwwwww: CUTE _wwwwww: I wish to be an anime girl, i wish anime was real sarik0497: Bro, is that generated? Unreal wellmeaningalien: yup wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: _wwwwww: c mon hikukomoru: "I wish to be an anime girl" _wwwwww: yes hey1_1hey: Hes just like me fr _wwwwww: i need fucking money spicy.lemonade: Rip r/ufo
aero447: 295k. aero447: Lmfao. futurist_wizard: I trust demis's timelines tbh spicy.lemonade: 50/50 2030? futurist_wizard: About spicy.lemonade: demis timeline is just kurzweil but late spicy.lemonade: 🙏 spicy.lemonade: lol alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think the date of '29 is accurate because of kurzweil, i do think that '30 is a reasonable estimate memlaswaif: we either get it by 2030 or it stagnates to the 50s imo ailoveyoom: Hey at least they used a funny meme this time 🥺 (no death threats 🥰) alejandrozarzuelo: what are those spicy.lemonade: i dont think thats how its gonna work spicy.lemonade: lol memlaswaif: why spicy.lemonade: we could simply be off by a year spicy.lemonade: who knows futurist_wizard: I believe he said its 5/5+ 2030 maybe a 50% chance hikukomoru: Damn I'll be an old hag by then alejandrozarzuelo: 5/5+?? alejandrozarzuelo: what is that futurist_wizard: YEARS alejandrozarzuelo: ahh memlaswaif: Yeah I mean add a year or 2 to 2030 if u want alejandrozarzuelo: a 50% chance of 2030 is only slightly more pessimistic than I am futurist_wizard: I'll be more precise with you next, i forgor the autism 🥺 😔 spicy.lemonade: even then if we dont get agi we will have top tier swe and math systems that can work agentically. which will speed up research on its own spicy.lemonade: feels inevitable that itl be soon fractalcomputer: People are always so prone to discuss their specific prediction dates but are always equally disinterested in discussing what will come afterwards; surely if you're that confident in your own predictive capabilities, you should have a thing or two to say about the immediate aftermath. fractalcomputer: As always, feelings dictate the truth. futurist_wizard: On what basis does your timeline even matter though, i just parrot timelines from experts wellmeaningalien: because who fookin knows? joaoluz19: Predicting singularity timelines or things like RSI has nothing to do with predicting the world after futurist_wizard: Or if its just a personal gut feeling spicy.lemonade: after agi, nothing changes the first year. people fuck around a bit. openAI devlops ASI in house. they start solving problems and slowy announce breakthroughs drip by drip futurist_wizard: Then yea joaoluz19: It's called singularity for a reason memlaswaif: top tier swe is agi to me <a:bcaShrug1:470733960771534854> memlaswaif: If it starts making a profit it's agi alejandrozarzuelo: ah i do have a thing or two to say i think we will see mass unemployment and revolution right after except in China as they will be already prepared because their political system is tailor made to this very event
fuhulootogan: we are in idiocracy archon.e: But currently, I am kinda fat alejandrozarzuelo: how do you not recognize the arc de triomphe fractalcomputer: The only thing in life that makes me genuinely happy is seeing applied mathematicians suffer immensely for their many sins. alejandrozarzuelo: dont be fuhulootogan: now is an amazing time to be "smart" archon.e: I was working out a lot and then got sick archon.e: got GERD fuhulootogan: why alejandrozarzuelo: getting sick is the best way to lose weight I'd know fractalcomputer: If a benevolent God existed, he would make sure that applied mathematicians (especially physicists) burn in the deepest pits of hell. hikukomoru: What fuhulootogan: damn hikukomoru: Why are you screaming at me st.sioux: its a good time to be smart and take advantage of stupid people fuhulootogan: yes archon.e: I wish the suffering of people end archon.e: and maybe we can also end the suffering of animals fractalcomputer: Because eternal punishment is the only just reward for such stupidity and ignorance. alejandrozarzuelo: the arc de triomphe is the second mosr famous thing in paris, how can you possibly not know about it ailoveyoom: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum. fuhulootogan: you can wish but can you execute? inferno0879: Have you read "The last answer"? fuhulootogan: can you at least try? fractalcomputer: By Asimov? Yes. hikukomoru: Idk bruh Looks like some random monument archon.e: I love that work inferno0879: It makes a surprising amount of sense to me for an omnipotent being to think like that inferno0879: am I schizo for thinking that? fractalcomputer: Yes, this is filthy fetish posting. I receive orgasmic pleasure from seeing applied mathematicians suffer the most intolerable punishments. fuhulootogan: arc de triomphe don't even look allat fuhulootogan: its like a banana taped to a wall but has an extremely rich and fabulous history behind it fractalcomputer: To think like how? alejandrozarzuelo: inferno0879: The limitation of unlimited knowledge hikukomoru: It looks extremely boring fuhulootogan: exactly archon.e: But the ending was kinda weird. || It just reverses entropy || a1c4p0ne: fractalcomputer: I do not personally know anyone as *stupid* and as *evil* enough as to be interested in applied mathematics like those stulted physicists or ignorant PDE solvers.
wellmeaningalien: tu sais parfois j'entends l'italien et ça me parais beaucoup comme le français wellmeaningalien: t'as pas compris la blague? hey1_1hey: Close hey1_1hey: Drugs fractalcomputer: Je ne blague pas. wellmeaningalien: bah bon c'est pas grave tu vas comprendre quand les mechants chatons vont venir futurist_wizard: I got diagnosed at 4, im legit as they come wellmeaningalien: c'est clair tu sais hikukomoru: Now I can't answer anymore lol Limited vocab But yeah, I feel the same way about spanish _cloudost: WGERE ID VEO 2? hey1_1hey: This is the french channel ty _cloudost: Veo 2 wellmeaningalien: well of course duh your language is just a fake language its just spanish with a trench coat _cloudost: Velo futurist_wizard: Stop being a degen fractalcomputer: On peut rester gaiement dans cette compréhension mutuelle. hey1_1hey: Im not hikukomoru: parler français ou gtfo .wolfnacht: i was more comfy with eng wellmeaningalien: peut être toi tu peux etre gay puis moi je vais voir hey1_1hey: I unirocnally had a massive thing for drugs a while back. I researched a bunch about them, dosage, how they were synthesised, what makes them deadly, classes etc etc hey1_1hey: I am defo on a watchlist after that stiny wellmeaningalien: kindest britoid ever hikukomoru: I feel like portuguese people can easily understand other latin languages But others can't understand ours at all futurist_wizard: Do you take any wellmeaningalien: 🤮 🇬🇧 👎 .wolfnacht: britard* hey1_1hey: No hey1_1hey: I like to keep my brain in tact for the most part wellmeaningalien: so i hear but i think like french is so distant from everything else nobody can fucking understand us lol .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pakistan-gif-8238298 hey1_1hey: I already have enough debuffs _cloudost: 🐦‍⬛ futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: French classes were such a pain in the ass I switched to Spanish because it was so much easier, especially the grammar compared to french fractalcomputer: C'est assez intéressant que les jeunes générations francophones hésitent à utiliser des mots comme gaieté ou n'importe quelle de ses variations dans le dictionnaire à cause d'influence anglophone. wellmeaningalien: actually spanish was pretty easy its just like the same grammatical rule but you swap the letters out wellmeaningalien: same conjugation hikukomoru: Doesn't really look like it's working wellmeaningalien: almost same vocab
sieventer: And do you feel fine like that? '-' alejandrozarzuelo: i do sleep a lot alejandrozarzuelo: like 8-10h alejandrozarzuelo: as long as you sleep the appropiate amount your body needs, its not THAT important when you sleep sieventer: But, 8-10h in portions or 8-10h in a row? alejandrozarzuelo: its holy week, so these last few days ive slept like 12h daily alejandrozarzuelo: in portions the largest being like 6h usually sieventer: Okay :] alejandrozarzuelo: if left to my own devices i would sleep like this all day, 12h ovreall with 6h main sleep and many naps alejandrozarzuelo: society doesnt let me tho alejandrozarzuelo: sad sieventer: "if left to my own devices"? No entiendo '-' sieventer: You mean like... alejandrozarzuelo: left to someones own devices means, if they had the complete power to decide by themselves sieventer: ooooooooooooh sieventer: Okay, I understand spicy.lemonade: https://chatgpt.com/share/6802a638-75b8-8007-9e1d-119202fcfd64 spicy.lemonade: it solved with pure vision spicy.lemonade: sieventer: Someday... post-scarcity ASI economy, society will allow you do that, cities will live 24/7, the concept of day/night won't make sense anymore alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully by then we will all be in the hivemind sieventer: No more political debates <3 sieventer: Universal agreement <3 spicy.lemonade: sieventer: I'm sorry to say, but the fact that we get impressed by these silly examples, means how useless is o3 xD sieventer: BUT sieventer: Well... sieventer: I guess... it's better than GPT-4 from 2023 otub: images in the CoT is a step forward tho drewsni: but what if no other model can do it drewsni: why is it not impressive spicy.lemonade: ? spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: it wasnt able to do this until o3 sieventer: Relatively speaking, is impressive. The problem is that pragmatically speaking, usually it's not. Like, the average o3 example is super simple stuff, like this maze, or a ball bouncing inside of a container Yes, it's the expected progress. But, idk, for me these examples are getting a bit tiring. "oh look at this! it can solve a basic logic riddle!" I understand, I understand, it's the fact is made by AI. But one thing doesn't cancel the other, it's subjetive after all spicy.lemonade: no its not spicy.lemonade: thats just a example i can post on discord easily spicy.lemonade: if you want to see full projects made with o3 go on twitter sieventer: Okay ·-· sieventer: https://x.com/lukeprog/status/1912592191282712777
_3sphere: Seems like it didn't get that it's supposed to be Teto spicy.lemonade: i didnt say anything about teto spicy.lemonade: just said redraw _3sphere: Hm yeah, it's not obvious from the image _3sphere: Since the whole reason I made it is that I thought Teto's hair might look funny in zero gravity fractalcomputer: Could you not try to post pseudo-pornographic images for one second? artemisfowl887394: She's fully clothed _3sphere: Ok let's try again >>> Redo this drawing of Teto in space to look like a normal anime image. The proportions are slightly off, correct them too. _3sphere: maybe _3sphere: <@471334973379706900> spicy.lemonade: ok ailoveyoom: Sometimes this tendency works against its advantage, eg when I give a character ref image and ask Flash to generate this char in another situation, it basically just pasted the image over photoshop-like lol _3sphere: Still, makes diffusion look useless _cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/ArtistHate/s/NzVDChIDm9 what are these retas... they all dont realize OP doesnt have access to the native OpenAI image generator...... spicy.lemonade: _3sphere: wow _3sphere: That's bettee _cloudost: r/artisthate is such a low iq sub _3sphere: But it broke the hair _3sphere: smh gamerbath: ah yes spicy.lemonade: they will learn _cloudost: so dumb clevermoniker: so... these people will panic when it can finally make fingers every time spicy.lemonade: soon enough _3sphere: Can we try one more spicy spicy.lemonade: ok _cloudost: No more sympathy for digital artists _3sphere: >>> Redo this drawing of Teto in space to look like a normal anime image. The proportions are slightly off, correct them too. The hair is supposed to be like that, it's floating in zero gravity. _cloudost: they betrayed us joaoluz19: It's over spicy.lemonade: _cloudost: One day they will be charged with treason _3sphere: Madness _3sphere: Hands are solved joaoluz19: Fractal when a new technology for gooners emerge _cloudost: is image generation infinite? spicy.lemonade: yes gamerbath: i'm gonna comment this image if you don't mind, just to see how people cope _cloudost: theres no limit?
frittata: Sus joaoluz19: I fell for that shit too lol frittata: The problem is it incorporates the feedback of the heaviest users of AI disproportionately frittata: It’s an echo chamber joaoluz19: But Apple not having something like Sesame to show says a lot about how it only flies on Jobs' legacy. st.sioux: macbooks are so good tho destrucules: It's so much worse actually destrucules: It's not "quirky tech bros are weird" joaoluz19: And in a sense iPhones too, but they're just the Nth iteration of what was once something totally revolutionary. spicy.lemonade: theres genuinly no issues with that image. i wonder how an artist would nitpick destrucules: It's "as it is now, AI is 'controlled' by financial and political incentives, which everyone agrees are misaligned with and disinterested in human welfare" destrucules: This is the real doom scenario destrucules: 1. Solve control problem 2. Employee paid to prompt AI "make money at all costs nothing else matters" 3. AI kills everyone st.sioux: a lot of problems could be solved by just ending humanity zonchao: soul destrucules: Companies do not care about humans destrucules: Companies are not humans destrucules: If we solve the control problem, everyone is dead destrucules: It's that simple zonchao: https://x.com/kimberlywtan/status/1907169385770537344? yea, they are disgusting joaoluz19: I think that too, better wait the AGI Jesus joaoluz19: Sesame is doomed too, censorship right from the start while competing with the big players is business suicide metaldragon01: they are un talks for $200 mil in funding. investors get what they want wellmeaningalien: Bro wellmeaningalien: My normie non ai friend just told me he talks to sesame to practice sometimes wellmeaningalien: I was so shocked wellmeaningalien: Openai def missing out by releasing better voice mode spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: W spicy.lemonade: wellmeaningalien: Who joaoluz19: Maybe they could become an openAI, anything less in the long run is being swallowed up by big companies or China. joaoluz19: It's understandable as long as they launch smarter models. Or in their case, just launch "cool" things and serve the 400 million users that others don't have. metaldragon01: I wouldn't be so sure. We havent seen anything close to them yet and i suspect it may be at least a few months before we do. I dont think Meta voice on llama 4 will do it but its the best candidate resleasing soon. metaldragon01: openai recently updated their voice models. minor update but noticeable spicy.lemonade: Some animator joaoluz19: Yes, they have gained an extraordinary advantage, which is why I talked about the problem of maintaining that in a few years before Google or OpenAI overtakes them. joaoluz19: openAI hasn't (yet) destroyed midjourney, but it's already a huge concern for them zonchao: is this the new "this is how you would look like if you were black or chinese" <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: yes
hey1_1hey: That fox really giving me "I kiss the homies good night but it's ok because it's not that but at night thinks about why they are a horrible person" vibes futurist_wizard: Okay, is your pfp, not you but the pfp a top or bottom, pick one oooooooooog: ALEJANDRO WHY DID YOU BECOME WOKE hey1_1hey: He always was alejandrozarzuelo: ? alejandrozarzuelo: What oooooooooog: GET THAT ARNOLD THE ARDVARK PFP AWAY FR I CANT TAKE IT futurist_wizard: Its obvious hikukomoru: You haven't been the same ever since you returned from that orgy... hikukomoru: I miss the old Alejandro technocake.: zorra hey1_1hey: 💀 alejandrozarzuelo: ??? alejandrozarzuelo: OK you definitely don't know Spanish hey1_1hey: The singulitards got him technocake.: doesn't it mean fox in spanish? alejandrozarzuelo: Zarzu is an abbreviation of Zarzuelo, my surname, that's what my friends call me It means blackberry alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fennec hikukomoru: Can I call you berry 💖 hey1_1hey: addressing your friends by last time is psychotic futurist_wizard: Generated from a minecraft screenshot hikukomoru: My little berry boo hey1_1hey: I only call one person by their last name and it's to make fun of them alejandrozarzuelo: That's why it's a diminutive of my surname oooooooooog: SEND THE MINECRAFT SCREENSHOT technocake.: sweden intensifies futurist_wizard: oooooooooog: HEY THATS PRETTY GOOD jonvi_1: is that ai? futurist_wizard: No hikukomoru: Yeah 4o remade minecraft from scratch hey1_1hey: Vibe coded obc alejandrozarzuelo: I mean sure alejandrozarzuelo: You can call me however you want alejandrozarzuelo: I don't care alejandrozarzuelo: (as long as it isn't sexual or offensive ) hikukomoru: Nvm hikukomoru: I was typing smth hey1_1hey: Can I call you "farming" then futurist_wizard: Alejandro's pfp is hilarious
himekokatagiri: we're going drag racing himekokatagiri: I'm gonna get those turbo 63 olds himekokatagiri: idk him himekokatagiri: hehehe himekokatagiri: I'll teach him fun man himekokatagiri: doing the quarter mile zoermena: I have little knowledge of cars to be honest himekokatagiri: as fast as possible himekokatagiri: It's simple himekokatagiri: It's a straight line himekokatagiri: the fastest guy wins himekokatagiri: Of course there's a technique himekokatagiri: And you gotta tune your car right zoermena: I’m so tired lol, this will be the most shit day I’ll have for some time, once it’s over everything should be ok himekokatagiri: Why zoermena: I made an embarrassment of myself with boomers and will have to redo some work _cloudost: trent_k: zoermena: And who knows which other challenges I’ll face today trent_k: looks like it's probably gemini based on the 1m context, right? joaoluz19: Give a common example hikukomoru: What do you do zoermena: Didn’t print some papers right fractalcomputer: Many of us would agree that objects—such as tables and apples etc.—exist. But this idea of discrete things existing in the universe is untenable and largely contrived; where does the table end and the air start? Where does the neutron star, connected to my heart by distant and feeble gravitational forces, begin and end? zoermena: I used to questions this things when I was younger, it made me highly depressed and anxious joaoluz19: Hmmm I see, personally I like to see things more from the engineering side, computer vision for example where you need to statistically treat the contour of the object but I appreciate your vision fractalcomputer: Humans have an amazing aptitude for behaving as if certain things existed. A trite example would be money; but all this would only suggest an unacceptable conclusion, viz. that existence as such is only really a kind of social convention; but the nature of that convention is entirely up in the air and mysterious. joaoluz19: To build things like robots that capture solids on Mars we need to define its space and identity very well. fractalcomputer: I actually read Mccarthy's Stella Maris yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that it dealt with rather similar issues. joaoluz19: I agree retrerox: So how are we doing today? zoermena: Apparently open ai is going to ship retrerox: Are we HYPE or are we down? retrerox: is that good or bad? zoermena: I haven’t really all of the context retrerox: english is not my main language so i dont know what u mean with that zoermena: I meant to write read my b zoermena: Also not my first language but I’m tired af retrerox: how is your sleeping schedule? zoermena: No idea
.histic: i got the better version cooking up hey1_1hey: Cant wait to see hey1_1hey: Servers are melting aperntly hey1_1hey: I mean I am not supprised .histic: bruh, mine froze on the creation of it .histic: it has been like 3 minutes ldj: I think it may be based on amount of pixels basically yea ldj: but that doesn't really tell you much about the actual cost, it just tells you the cost difference between larger and smaller images conservatively, I think it'll be atleast 5X more expensive per pixel, compared to the input cost per pixel hey1_1hey: I am getting blue balled by 4o trent_k: trent_k: honestly worth every penny .histic: 🥵 damn 4o created a masterpiece .histic: i got to make two versions tho hganhhh: man i wanna fuck elon, really just pound his ass, make it dissapear. Then, make out with him with those gorgeous lips mmwmmmmma so goood ooooeeeee lalalala fucking beautiful man i love him hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>hi .histic: https://x.com/emanuelsa/status/1905256978147921994 of course you get these type of people hganhhh: do you liek cats .histic: no, i'm a dog person. hganhhh: no you arent .histic: joking, they're both mid. i'm a no animal person. hganhhh: fuck your .histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hganhhh: i love ai hganhhh: i wanna make a ai video of elon sucking on a watermelon that would be interesting to watch hey1_1hey: Ayyy big tony my boy hganhhh: sup hey1_1hey: Hows the wife keepin hganhhh: long time no see hganhhh: i dont have a wife hey1_1hey: Yeah you do dont lie hikukomoru: <@1056739182338388108> Hey babe 🫦 🫦 hey1_1hey: You like this art that got generated hganhhh: sup hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>smash or pass hey1_1hey: Well its me but women so hikukomoru: Why are there skulls 🙏 hikukomoru: In the background .0xunkn0wn: smash .0xunkn0wn: WAIT hey1_1hey: He knows it
spicy.lemonade: No promoting spicy.lemonade: Like nfts spicy.lemonade: But there's a human in the mix brain4brain: Of exist continuously spicy.lemonade: Lol artists genuinely thought the ai bubble was like nft spicy.lemonade: Did nft even last a yesr alejandrozarzuelo: maybe? in my math department the closer you get to pure math the more excited people are about being replaced, the further you get the more threatened people feel jonvi_1: https://x.com/pjaccetturo/status/1905151190872309907?s=46 brain4brain: People who say this are fucking annoying, they are coping anathemaofmankind: If they were right about souls then AI detection shouldn't be a problem alejandrozarzuelo: maybe because we are a bunch of autists who drool at the idea of having centuries of mathematics being discivered every year alejandrozarzuelo: I swear i am not autistic this is a joke anathemaofmankind: Just find the soul in the AI Art brain4brain: Being in this server already mean you’re autistic brain4brain: Everybody here is hikukomoru: Really not beating the autist allegations anathemaofmankind: I can confirm as another autist anathemaofmankind: At least we are all high functioning spicy.lemonade: I LOVE GENERATING SLOP _cloudost: he should have used Vidu its better at making 2d animation futurist_wizard: You just do it half way, continue to exist with your brain but have some device that sends custom electrical signals to your neural cortex maybe like visual or audible and then confirm that you can see your own eyesight and whatever the machine is generating through your mind simultaneously jonvi_1: Yeah it’s still a cool demo of what we can do now tho jonvi_1: Very cool alejandrozarzuelo: btw alejandrozarzuelo: its weird alejandrozarzuelo: but the CS student community is weirdly anti AI futurist_wizard: Money jonvi_1: Well seems a bit obvious? futurist_wizard: Cs students want that 100k futurist_wizard: Salary alejandrozarzuelo: shouldnt they be pro AI? alejandrozarzuelo: you know jonvi_1: They don’t want to feel like what they’re doing is for nothings alejandrozarzuelo: they are the ones making it happening alejandrozarzuelo: alongside mathematicians jonvi_1: The curriculum does not do anything related to ai jonvi_1: (I’m a cs undergrad) jonvi_1: We have required courses on Java Swing alejandrozarzuelo: but you NEED to be a CS or math major to be working in AI jonvi_1: From like 2008
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so. trojan09205: Ty 🫶 zonchao: <:cute:1291960720895905814> okbut: My dating app is Google Scholar futurist_wizard: Good pupper hikukomoru: Love when people share pics and videos of their pets trojan09205: I also met an interesting girl there and got her number Pup is a chick magnet lol zoermena: When I walk my dog that never happens futurist_wizard: Woman update fractalcomputer: I prefer uploaded video lectures. trojan09205: Skill issue trojan09205: Jk haha hikukomoru: They are intimidated zonchao: do you have a cupcake? zoermena: futurist_wizard: okbut: Too weak on the numbers to overhead ratio man alejandrozarzuelo: I think love is the feeling of being able to trust someone so much, that you are willing to let your life in their hands It's the feeling of having such a connection that makes you see them as the person who you can take all your worries, and the person you want to cherish all your joys It's a bond about the ability to face the world with that person, the bond that makes you understand each other, even in the things you don't really understand about yourself To be in love with someone is to have this deep sense of them being the person you want your existence to melt with, because you see everything better with them futurist_wizard: That's quite intense zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/teehee-doggo-pitbull-cutie-dog-gif-15868302 alejandrozarzuelo: Love is an intense feeling isn't it? futurist_wizard: I am too guarded to feel that way about a relationship hikukomoru: One of the rare times I am forced to agree with you alejandrozarzuelo: What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more trojan09205: I agree but it also lends you to the tail end of it which is heartbreaking when those expectations fall through alejandrozarzuelo: I have never experienced that fortunately alejandrozarzuelo: My bf became my closest friend trojan09205: Im going through that now. Divorcing after almost 10 years futurist_wizard: My first three relationships were very hurtful to me and now I'm guarded forever alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly I only had a LTR, and it ended the best way it could have, I think lovers to bffs is the best way to end a relationship trojan09205: Love is most definitely real alejandrozarzuelo: My relationship actually improved, when you let go the need to maintain that level of relationship with someone which is emotionally very taxing, and you keep the best parts you always loved about that person, it makes a very strong friendship trojan09205: Just requires a lot of maturity and constant work to nurture it and preserve it alejandrozarzuelo: Another close friend of mine who is a bit older than me, had 3 relationships before his current one and he always has gotten very well with them So, in my life the people close to me have had very good endings of relationships Except my sister trojan09205: Sometimes you cant control the other person deciding to end things in flames <@688807313015963693> alejandrozarzuelo: True trojan09205: People are unpredictable ultimately alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i consider myself lucky on this case trojan09205: Word count your blessings alejandrozarzuelo: Oh well, hopefully soon I'll be far far away from home and I will be able to love again
metaldragon01: the o5 level model should get human level on simple bench and by most accounts i think people will accept its agi metaldragon01: could take 8 months for that could take a year or more .coldcall: Fast takeoff here we come spacetimetsunami: Automation will be tough as an American spacetimetsunami: No UBI for us. metaldragon01: free tokens are the only ubi we are getting metaldragon01: use them spacetimetsunami: How will that help me with money lol futurist_wizard: Generate some images of food spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304 spicy.lemonade: this is odd spicy.lemonade: i can tell anytime a comic is geneated by 4o image spicy.lemonade: now spicy.lemonade: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> st.sioux: because of the font? spicy.lemonade: i guess spicy.lemonade: maybe ldj: incremental jumps ≠ slow takeoff .histic: filters on 4o seems less restrictive spicy.lemonade: thought to image when spicy.lemonade: VEO2 IS FAST ASF spicy.lemonade: generated 8 second video in 3 seconds spicy.lemonade: wtf alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> do you know what is the accuracy rate of humans in their field? spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@312370916820779040> did you make the app? spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: the fuck spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: fuck you spicy.lemonade: holy shit native image gen got worse .histic: idk what you're on about .histic: are you plus? spicy.lemonade: yes .histic: mine works perfectly spicy.lemonade: 😭 .histic: spicy.lemonade: damn .histic: still pretty 2d spicy.lemonade: cant get it to make realistic
sweetievee__33649: thank you for spotting it though 👍 sweetievee__33649: we might get sora 2 👀 _cloudost: zonchao: https://x.com/BigTechAlert/status/1906664037896605788? big? spicy.lemonade: dont think so spicy.lemonade: dev tools technocake.: <@1356003171549315324> hi are you new here? sweetievee__33649: i thought i heard an @ and then i saw you delete it. Thought i was going crazy then realelonmuskx: we need to kill ai artist. sweetievee__33649: so yeah i am new here hello 👋 sweetievee__33649: yeah i hate ai artists always making my lack of art skill look noticeable technocake.: I just replied to a random message, I thought it better to just ping. Hi andd welcome! sweetievee__33649: no worries honestly thought i got @ so i could begin the hazing ritual sweetievee__33649: do i have to run the guantlet of ai troll questions or smth technocake.: not to worry you will be hazed just by your exposure to the degenerates here sweetievee__33649: oh ive already seen that 😭 .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/ground-beef-grinder-gif-10187548 sweetievee__33649: someone was talking about smurf sex hierarchy hikukomoru: Are you talking about me perchance .wolfnacht: sounds interesting technocake.: no all your fetishes are high taste I am assured hikukomoru: sweetievee__33649: it was something sweetievee__33649: who are you .wolfnacht: i didn't know smurfs got hedonistic paradise down there. realelonmuskx: why. hikukomoru: Local sex pest sweetievee__33649: is this the part where i get hazed? sweetievee__33649: there seems to be a few of those around here sweetievee__33649: hello local sex pest though its nice to meet you .wolfnacht: hikukomoru: I am competing with <@430269783112548362> for the title of the biggest degenerate here sweetievee__33649: thats like boderline suicide on reddit sweetievee__33649: any others i should be aware of .wolfnacht: i've already got around 2 warnings from fractal otherwise i would be corrupting everyone here. with my fetishes. wellmeaningalien: ps6 solos u both but hes not very active now sweetievee__33649: so is everyone here just gooners then? hikukomoru: Yeah wellmeaningalien: real artists when they have to feel 0.001% of the pain ai artists feel wellmeaningalien: yup
dr.banemortem: Exactly,he might used the ai for the script and then did the power point himself technocake.: and this makes it likely he's full of shit or doesn't know what he's talking about trojan09205: I mean you can ask an image AI generator to change the same base image with small changes dr.banemortem: He is definitely full of shit but every once in a while he is telling the truth technocake.: I think that's what he did, AI can def produce those images trojan09205: Most normies have no idea what AI actually means/does beyond chatbots and random apps dr.banemortem: I'm a curious and intrested normie he doesnt have a degree but he works as the IT guy where I work popsiclejohnithan: st.sioux: experience in IT does not necessarily translate to ai knowledge technocake.: he might be an enthusiast popsiclejohnithan: trojan09205: I mean so yeah he could have just put together diff stuff and made that. A lot of developers play with AI I think the problem is your trust in your friend lmao trojan09205: I made these with AI like a year ago https://youtu.be/wxAp7m_BdVM?si=DoSWUE41X3wX8wq_ st.sioux: i think its good that they're not using ai... it opens up more opportunities for us trojan09205: https://youtu.be/qX-ZOJA4kXE?si=Ikxegq9lHTl_qHen st.sioux: wtf is this lmao trojan09205: Lmao was just messing around with stability video APi st.sioux: people should start using ai to make money so they realize its useful trojan09205: Lol we can compete with the AI agents who in turn use AI agents .histic: clevermoniker: Does anyone know another website that has something like Huggingface's spaces? sarik0497: Honestly fairly human reaction. futurist_wizard: O3 says 2027-2040 is likely date of AGI emerging futurist_wizard: I did not clarify what agi even was so it might be worthless himekokatagiri: o3 reads off reddit himekokatagiri: probably reads the singularity polls sarik0497: ChatGPT knows AGI to be highly revolutionary, so likely something AGI for many, and ASI for a few. spicy.lemonade: 4o knows my Reddit account and posts spicy.lemonade: Without searching spicy.lemonade: Crazy spicy.lemonade: I'm in the base model sarik0497: You can ask it for a neutral and “no bullshit” estimation. Unlike what a lot of people say, ChatGPT is not afraid of saying something is stupid if it is. hikukomoru: >17k updoots hikukomoru: Millennials are so cooked himekokatagiri: komoru himekokatagiri: you're our poster woman himekokatagiri: you can convince people to use AI himekokatagiri: use the komoru charm! st.sioux: komoru is a 43 year old man ailoveyoom: komoru is a 34 year old woman
sekirow: very optimistic futurist_wizard: Very hikukomoru: Mhm sekirow: and I wonder how computer can understand our abstraction alejandrozarzuelo: As long as it can unemploy everyone, I could hardly care if it really understands or just pretends to alejandrozarzuelo: I just care about ending Labor sekirow: Yeh it's good enough if it can pretend to alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i can't possibly understand your timeline, as task performance is improving fast enough to be at worst in 2035 futurist_wizard: It's missing the most crucial element of understanding abstraction.. the soul 😇 alejandrozarzuelo: If it can simulate abstraction it's good enough for me I don't care if a plane does not fly like ad bird does, I just want It to take me across the Atlantic literallyvarane: I’ could still fairly easily see timelines where it’s well past 2035 the sekirow: I dont expect everything going that smooth so alejandrozarzuelo: It would require sub exponential growth, which could happen, sure literallyvarane: What if we get AGI but it’s just wildly expensive to inference and we can’t reasonably produce the hardware to replace hundreds of millions of jobs. literallyvarane: Etc literallyvarane: Or just legal backlash to it lolol futurist_wizard: It's almost impossible to imagine the outcome where it goes right, it'd all be otherworldly to us hikukomoru: Stop talking like that hikukomoru: It's creepy literallyvarane: The question of full economic automation is as much a legislative question as it is a technical one. sekirow: but it doesnt really matter to me since I have a good chance surviving up to 2050 futurist_wizard: Like what hikukomoru: Emojis Futurist Hill would never hikukomoru: You fell off hard 🥀 futurist_wizard: I can't use emojis anymore.. futurist_wizard: 😞 literally over 😿 alejandrozarzuelo: As long as something happens... I am ok with it I just dread the idea of humanity existing as it does today in 2100, extinction would at least be interesting futurist_wizard: It'd be over for us at least alejandrozarzuelo: Extinction by AI, not by cringe things like climate change alejandrozarzuelo: OK gonna sleep joaoluz19: The chad futurist hill vs the virgin clock fool futurist_wizard: You know how unlucky that would be, our lifespans were 0.00..1% the potential but we were born just a smidge too early sekirow: If you look at the history of AI, its usually not that smooth hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦 alejandrozarzuelo: Think of how unlucky it is to be born in this century but in Gaza and you end up dying at 15 instead of 150000 futurist_wizard: Fucked up world we built, humans need to go futurist_wizard: Please hivemind save us and stuff zoermena: Stuff me ldj: If anybody is curious of how I know OpenAI is planning an open source release for June <:berk:750111476483752166> ldj: here:
spicy.lemonade: What if spicy.lemonade: We are actually just fomenting spicy.lemonade: Fine tuning spicy.lemonade: But the older we get the less deep we go spicy.lemonade: Fine tuning is just training the last layers spicy.lemonade: Not that deep spicy.lemonade: But we learn more as humans when little spicy.lemonade: More neuroplasticity spicy.lemonade: Smaller brain destrucules: I do genuinely think we should be looking for circuits inside LLMs that parallel neurotransmitter circuits in the human brain, so we can use activation steering to induce drug-like psychoactive states in the models. Not without their consent, ofc, but I want to trip sit a model so fuckin bad you have no idea spicy.lemonade: So we can train deeper layers destrucules: Finetuning is training the entire model destrucules: Like, only training the upper layers is nonstandard spicy.lemonade: No it’s only shifting the last layers spicy.lemonade: This is highlited in several apis spicy.lemonade: Training the whole model is too expensive destrucules: That is not usually how finetuning works. There may be some APIs that serve that, but that's a nonstandard way of doing finetuning, and the term "finetuning" doesn't generally indicate that. Ask an LLM if you don't believe me spicy.lemonade: Oh I just know that’s what they do for served LLMs spicy.lemonade: But yeah fine tuning on its own means training whole model spicy.lemonade: But not that readable for large models spicy.lemonade: Feasible destrucules: Ahh okay we're on the same page. Anyway I don't think humans freeze their parameters as we get older. I think it's more that our brains go from this hot noisy soup of random activity to this clean, ordered, sparse lattice of heavily refined concepts, each one occupying a deep local minimum in the free energy landscape, so it's harder to hallucinate, harder to wrangle a few happy accidental misfirings into the foundation for a new revelation. But that's also why we learn how to *be* creative, which is what entropy neurons do. We can dial up our brains' internal noise level. But the default level gets lower with time, and maintaining that fire from which creativity tendrils out becomes harder and harder. destrucules: Also, as the volume of what we've learned increases, so too does the inertia of what we've learned. Fundamentally refactoring the whole graph based on some new signal takes vastly more cognitive effort. Not to mention, we tend to spend less cognitive effort as we get older, as we get more efficient, which is also *why* time starts to slip by faster and faster. We're literally less present in each moment, our brains doing less and less as we get better at doing what we do spicy.lemonade: Tru ldj: https://tenor.com/view/trap-next-door-trap-bot-blue-durag-durag-lil-bow-wow-gif-352513190420007294 bob082957: Will be the took 2 B from Harvard damage ai development? spicy.lemonade: Maybe maybe not spicy.lemonade: If it happens to take it from a lab that was working on a novel new architecture spicy.lemonade: That’s very unlucky spicy.lemonade: (Harvard and mit split the money) trey6033: Looks like Gemini succeeded in safari zone in Pokemon otub: nicee otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634> himekokatagiri: man himekokatagiri: how do you stop being a loser himekokatagiri: I feel like such a loser trey6033: Gotta spend less time online prob spicy.lemonade: Get gf spicy.lemonade: Get married spicy.lemonade: Have kids
zonchao: we will have to deal with AGI before post scarcity, there will be multiple years/decades between these events 🤔 gamerbath: I was in their discord and I asked how it's possible to pause AI and I shared why I think it's not possible. I got banned rayanquitplayin: Jobs are already getting automated thedon7075: all the reviews from people seem to indicate that o3 and o4 mini are underwhelming, thats the facts brain4brain: I was doomer-pilling that O3 is shit on release day too don’t worry, however I have come to accept the fact that although it slightly underperform my expectations, it’s still a great model zonchao: because itll be hijacked by people that dont have the executive skills and long term thinking capitalists do, you could say they can just let AGI figure it out, i would be more open to that than letting current commies in power. I just dont trust people that have nothing to show for except yap about equity and class war bs, better to trust builders than yappers. brain4brain: It is also not “underwhelming”, it’s just cherry picking rayanquitplayin: I might just stay at the AGI level, I’ll be eternally happy zonchao: anyway I dont think we are eacc enough to figure out good policies before AGI, maybe in china. rayanquitplayin: Yea someone else said the ai will come up with the economic system rayanquitplayin: eacc? zonchao: that would be nice, but imagine a scenario where 50% of the population is automated and the rest just get productivity boosts, we are not prepared brain4brain: AGI this year, post scarcity 2027 zonchao: effective accelerationism zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> rayanquitplayin: They may get productivity boosts but I doubt it’ll reflect in their pay. Essentially the entities that own the AI will get paid out the most brain4brain: Why are there no OpenAI release yesterday brain4brain: Why is it so boring zonchao: nobody knows <:shrug2:853253267534643240> but i guess thats exciting <:LOL:1187460826572005436> brain4brain: Why no new model brain4brain: Wen AGI rayanquitplayin: Yea the American govt has so many checks and balances, it’s really slow in legislating, we’re gonna have to address the main issue: how will people find meaning in life if it’s not work rayanquitplayin: Yeah there’s no telling the future .wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> they are lobotomizing AI studio more, every other smut prompt is now blocked due to 'OTHER' zonchao: <@378996537704841216> https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1913057626117820438 hey1_1hey: Not claude bro 😭 hey1_1hey: Anthropic is a sleeper lab rn zonchao: dario is an assassin retrerox: your ass when you are out of jail, your ass when you in prison .wolfnacht: do you have any info on grok-3(04-27) ? is it real ? brain4brain: Claude-3.5-sonnet was an unbelievable lucky runs that they change path to mech interp to retrieve the sonnet magic to train opus zonchao: dont know brain4brain: ||This is a joke, they probably did reinforcement learning or better data or something, but a lucky run could also be possible|| bob082957: If rl then they trained it like deepseek .wolfnacht: and Grok 3.5 ? .wolfnacht: also, the Voice Mode ? zonchao: all we heard was soon™ zonchao: its out, but its ass .wolfnacht: I want elon's voice in voice mode. zonchao: better on ios
memlaswaif: what do u work out inferno0879: free weights and bodyweight ailoveyoom: Most normal Japanese gooner memlaswaif: How can u do bodyweight _3sphere: Why are the Japanese like this lmao memlaswaif: Do u do like 5 pushup hikukomoru: This is what 2 nukes do to a country wellmeaningalien: zoermena: Why aren’t they into femboys like a normal person maintcrew: 3 sets of ai evangelism and 3 sets of elon dick riding is what i do inferno0879: i get an avg of 15 pushups hikukomoru: Tbh Japenis love femboys too inferno0879: i'm not 100% lard bro memlaswaif: ure strong <:cozy:1306574869361590272> ailoveyoom: Idk bro has a point ngl wellmeaningalien: A PLUS SIZE BLACK WOMAN IS DOING YOGA. WATCH AND LEARN zoermena: But she has muscles wellmeaningalien: in the prompt btw st.sioux: she's 90% muscle holee wellmeaningalien: the prompt says plus size wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848> memlaswaif: that's <@476963539739738114> .histic: wellmeaningalien: <@476963539739738114> fatass inferno0879: youre' mom wellmeaningalien: omg hes so silly >.< running to openai with toast in his mouth wellmeaningalien: bro take that back at once zonchao: https://x.com/zebulgar/status/1904932978838708531? fractalcomputer: Altman has an ugly soul. ailoveyoom: He's saying you're mom, so you are mom So you're mommy wellmeaningalien: take that back too inferno0879: i cannot take back the backshots .histic: wellmeaningalien: i like when u say mean things about people _3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/turnoff-dislike-nutted-orgasm-sex-gif-24973771 wellmeaningalien: 💀 wellmeaningalien: satoshi nakamoto zoermena: Mommy wants to be punished wellmeaningalien: truly having a field day with gpt 4o image gen rn wellmeaningalien: WHO THE FUCK
himekokatagiri: the red suited menace futurist_wizard: I plan to without the cutting off part alejandrozarzuelo: we are talking about chopping our dicks for ASI himekokatagiri: hm hikukomoru: <@286319745777795092> answer the penis poll in <#1227814510429995049> himekokatagiri: can you have a dick in fdvr shirethedreamer: you cant be any more of a menace than this chat has been for the last hour himekokatagiri: If it takes one year then no futurist_wizard: We don't even know the result of the Singularity himekokatagiri: I can't live without my dick himekokatagiri: it's an addiction issue himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> futurist_wizard: You might cut your cock off to be turned into grey goo ailoveyoom: 💀 futurist_wizard: Well now your addiction is cured himekokatagiri: noooooo futurist_wizard: If you cut off alejandrozarzuelo: I am in no hurry, like, its ok if the singularity takes a few years im ok with that himekokatagiri: I don't wannaaaaa himekokatagiri: that's bullying futurist_wizard: 'a few years' nsec: actually weak alejandrozarzuelo: where there is a will there is a way 😏 nsec: 1 year until singularity himekokatagiri: I mean yeah cutting someone's dick off is the worst punishment historically alejandrozarzuelo: as long as it happens before the mid 2040s im ok with waiting himekokatagiri: they did that in ancient china hikukomoru: You’ll get a new one later himekokatagiri: but it'll take a whilw futurist_wizard: Lets say the Singularity and utopia is 20 years away, with you get a razor blade and saw your cock off then himekokatagiri: 😭 futurist_wizard: To turn 20 into 1 hikukomoru: It’s only a year of dicklessness nsec: 1 year w no cock and all illness cured nsec: <:based:848130804672626698> nsec: ur basically guys nsec: guys alejandrozarzuelo: its one year only, if i was in a rush and was guaranteed that the sing would be a good one alejandrozarzuelo: then sure alejandrozarzuelo: i changed my mind
wellmeaningalien: zoermena: I'm in class and you keep fetish posting spicy.lemonade: ive seen enough hikukomoru: zoermena: Eh but I can't blame you for it spicy.lemonade: this is on the level of o3 .histic: wellmeaningalien: spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/cum-wadeip200-gif-21912553 a1c4p0ne: Do conquest from invincible <@458069236825194506> hey1_1hey: I just busted technocake.: mentioning turing without church smh zoermena: wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: No nutting in general wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o btw wellmeaningalien: still .histic: hey1_1hey: Can it make karll marx, the duo lingo bird, winny the poo and genghas khann kiss in that format please 🙏 hikukomoru: FRACTAL???? wellmeaningalien: zoermena: Everything related to making images tbh .histic: crazy hey1_1hey: Adobe cooked (photoshop) wellmeaningalien: a1c4p0ne: What about professional artists? hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802 zoermena: The only worth of artists now is name .histic: hey1_1hey: WTF hey1_1hey: DOUBLE WTF hey1_1hey: Why is everyone making trump a zesty mf or giving him tatoos .histic: <@439829942310666250> hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363 a1c4p0ne: So art classes will go out of business? wellmeaningalien: hey1_1hey: I should make trump an MF13 member hikukomoru: creaming hey1_1hey: I NEED TO SHOW MY MATH FRIEND THIS wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: That means it's a nothingburger literallyvarane: hikukomoru: Hype cancelled literallyvarane: It’s very clearly not a narrow AI. hey1_1hey: Komoru is just a chinese spy dont listen to them literallyvarane: Chess Engines are a narrow AI. It can do one task, and *only* one task. ChatGPT 3.5 clearly isn’t a narrow AI. drewsni: I’m going to be so fucking pissed off if o4 mini and o3 can’t literally 1 shot every problem I have hikukomoru: No, I'm just Google's no.1 simp literallyvarane: Alpha fold is a narrow ai etc etc hikukomoru: I hate mini models hikukomoru: Just give us the full thing popsiclejohnithan: Mini models are useful though, sure they are less powerful but you can fit them in less compute, like a phone for example. literallyvarane: They have a clear use case imo. st.sioux: theyre so useful st.sioux: lol _cloudost: Tell it if GPT 3.5 is an narrow AI drewsni: How the FUCK can you say no twink when Greg motherfucking brockman is gonna be there hey1_1hey: I mean am I wrong? hikukomoru: Uhuh hey1_1hey: There isn't a ddrink hey1_1hey: twink popsiclejohnithan: He's not *the* twink. hikukomoru: Such as st.sioux: silly ass name st.sioux: brontorock johnson hey1_1hey: If o4-mini cant tell me what gender I am its not AGI hikukomoru: No drinking 🥀 hey1_1hey: Maybe if o4-mini is AGI drewsni: No but if gbm is there then AGI is announced hikukomoru: AGI or not I'm still going to drink drewsni: Remember that Greg brockman is the sole reason why gpt 4 actually worked and was good. Imagine where we’d be now without gpt 4 hikukomoru: Don't start with the gender stuff already zoermena: HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE zoermena: <a:HYPERCATJAM:1037101323516121209> popsiclejohnithan: We're pretty close to AGI honestly, i can see it happening this year with what these past few months have shown us. hey1_1hey: You started this not me remember hikukomoru: I hope you're right zoermena: If the model is super good I’ll buy a pizza to eat today zoermena: And I will send proof literallyvarane: Response time, $ improvements, or task that don’t require a ton of world knowledge. If you need a model for coding, mini is going to probably be just as good and much cheaper.
spicy.lemonade: I should post my findings on artistshate spicy.lemonade: Lmao zonchao: banned wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848> zonchao: do it on defending ai art zonchao: all the big artist hate andys lurk there wellmeaningalien: OH MY LORD NO spicy.lemonade: What wellmeaningalien: ok maybe u should tbh it would be funny zonchao: he will get banned maintcrew: wrong chat wellmeaningalien: who rlly cares zonchao: nobody will see it zonchao: if he posts on defending ai art more people will see it .wolfnacht: And the bread they eat in morning is not bread, bcz the dough is kneaded by machine and baked by machine and everything's literally automated atm. avizuradnb: Maybe persuade them to join our side. Ask an LLM how to convert the unbelievers. spicy.lemonade: st.sioux: They are already past that, now that they can't tell it's AI they're starting to call it 'soulless' and to look for it in the 'eyes' st.sioux: i saw it on a post on r/piratedgames st.sioux: but its deleted now avizuradnb: Has anyone ever asked them what they mean by 'soul'? hey1_1hey: This is like conversion therapy but for artists spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Agi achieved? a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> precariousworlds.: This seems like a big deal? spicy.lemonade: https://ai-timeline.org/ spicy.lemonade: avizuradnb: epicness avizuradnb: The acceleration is accelerating hikukomoru: Look at the current date compared to 10 years ago hikukomoru: "AI winter" my ass _cloudost: This probably happened after Ilya showed a glimpse of ASI ( for 3 secounds ) to the CEO of Microsoft and now suddenly Microsoft is taking this drastic decision maintcrew: is this all of their projects with GPUs maintcrew: or just OpenAI exclusive ones like stargate hikukomoru: It's not over It just started spicy.lemonade: probably stargate _cloudost: this is what the majority of r/singularity believed about the AI winter 4-3 months ago maintcrew: yea i think so too maintcrew: sama generational fumble fucking up their only big tech pay pig
drewsni: oh yeah ill just go do this hikukomoru: I see you left a comment trent_k: yes trent_k: since theyre all leaving their usernames ive been looking up what they write hikukomoru: Oh this guys writes Baldur's Gate rape fics himekokatagiri: idk I think AO3 has decent madoka fics himekokatagiri: though I prefer the SV/SB quests trojan09205: Im watching an insane movie trojan09205: Enemy - w jake gyllenhall hikukomoru: <@1068159407671754824> drewsni: btw i know multiple people who have much earlier scrapes of ao3 so likely even newer locked ones have been scraped for quite some time drewsni: https://huggingface.co/datasets/Chat-Error/archiveofourown-newest trent_k: hahaha nice drewsni: someone uploaded the age of empires 3 manual with the dataset viewer turned off to bait people drewsni: its bait btw dont click accept drewsni: or maybe project gutenburg, either way trent_k: wonder if i could upload a bait one with a phone number that they can call to request removal trent_k: hahaha drewsni: these people have no clue how outclassed they are otub: <@750270494615404544> https://fixupx.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1915806748515917900 himekokatagiri: <@1068159407671754824> what's your opinion on ao3 himekokatagiri: don't you think it's better if we trained on the original work himekokatagiri: instead of derivatives gamerbath: I have never heard of ao3 before, it's some sort of archive? himekokatagiri: it's a site where you publish fanfiction himekokatagiri: and everything is allowed trent_k: frankly, most of AO3 is pretty shit. just an enormous amount of low effort poorly written texts by people with a tenuous grasp on english. but that being said, how can you recognize shitty art if you've never seen it? we should train on absolutely everything himekokatagiri: so the dregs congregate there drewsni: transformative* fanfiction trent_k: ~~fanfiction~~ erotica himekokatagiri: but then won't the AI make shitty art drewsni: what if ao3 archive is the missing piece to fixing listicle slop trent_k: image generators have used shitty art as training data and tagged it so the model knows what to avoid trent_k: e.g. putting score_9 in the regular prompt box, and putting score_6 in the negative prompt box hikukomoru: smut gamerbath: excuse me? spicy.lemonade: slowest week ever hikukomoru: Are we getting anything soon gamerbath: there's some sort of AI ML event thingy for the next 2 weeks or something like that zonchao: lfggg
hikukomoru: No hikukomoru: Only for researchers hikukomoru: 20k spicy.lemonade: “How to make thermonuclear bomb in basement” spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: Nah hikukomoru: <@482923866600112154> tier research query thedon7075: until deepmind or deepseek create an equivalent model in a few months at 100 times cheaper price jonvi_1: Moom OpenAI is blackhole posting https://x.com/openai/status/1911782243640754634?s=46 thedon7075: 4.1 spicy.lemonade: This week is gonna be batshit spicy.lemonade: Google dropping spicy.lemonade: Kling spicy.lemonade: OpenAI jonvi_1: Blackhole and developers suggest maybe some memory api thing to me? Idk though spicy.lemonade: Deepseek next week thedon7075: This year has already surpassed 2024 spicy.lemonade: Not yet. After this week it will zoermena: This quarter spicy.lemonade: Keep in mind end of 2024 was insane spicy.lemonade: And in 2024 we saw a whole new paradigm spicy.lemonade: But this week will make it pass thedon7075: lets hope so thedon7075: open ai have to deliver forallhumanity: https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/1911789771137188273 futurist_wizard: Black hole zoermena: If it’s true I could see how this could easily justify taking out a loan with the goal of striking rich spicy.lemonade: I need 20k guys spicy.lemonade: I wanna ask it to make Fdvr spicy.lemonade: I think this is the model where it can actually give us a good answer spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: Not speculating anymore hey1_1hey: I feel really fnny rn. not stressed yanno just like ia m kinda high even though i havent taken anything its kinda nice yanno hey1_1hey: Feels like im dreaming innit hikukomoru: Damn, 20k hikukomoru: Competition's gonna make something cheaper anyways futurist_wizard: Wake up zoermena: If true this could make or break the world paradigm, such intelligence has to be good enough to replace jobs spicy.lemonade: I’m loving this year spicy.lemonade: Ai will solve a millennium problem next year
ailoveyoom: Seems similar enough to OpenWorm lol ailoveyoom: Okay wait nvm, it's probably less granular ailoveyoom: Still cool tho himekokatagiri: Then you rig it with firebase? himekokatagiri: Shit I'll try that himekokatagiri: it's just y'know gpt/sora is shit for graphics technocake.: could work, i'd recommend picking an engine and sticking to it .histic: <@286319745777795092> my sub ends in 2 days and i've 17 deep research usages and i don't know what to use them for. give me an idea. himekokatagiri: let's see himekokatagiri: shit my discord crapped out himekokatagiri: ```How could I make a playable first person shooter with 2D style graphics (think Blood or Duke3D) with a modern, accessible free game engine using an AI agent like Cursor or Firebase``` .histic: that's a weird question 🤔 you don't want it to code it, you want it to just give you what it thinks may work? i don't know whether it will be knowledgeable about how capable models are at coding such a thing. himekokatagiri: that is true himekokatagiri: think of it as the himeko benchmark himekokatagiri: (idk I don't have any other deep research ideas) himekokatagiri: Can deep research code? himekokatagiri: I thought you needed an agent to code a project .histic: it can output code but i think it has limited outputs himekokatagiri: Then if we're talking a project of this scope how could an AI do it himekokatagiri: I don't think it's possible .histic: give me another question lol himekokatagiri: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482> himekokatagiri: ```Do an analysis on the decline of Brazilian railways from the post war period until their privatization (1945 - 1999)``` himekokatagiri: sounds academic himekokatagiri: give it back to me I'll read it and I guess I'm knowledgeable enough to know if it's wrong .histic: do i just say, "Yes". lol himekokatagiri: 1. All of them you mentioned 2. General overview 3. Not other countries but other modes of transport 4. They should .histic: alright himekokatagiri: Now we wait 15 hours himekokatagiri: No sane intelligent being can rationalize this himekokatagiri: ahhhh to being bored again himekokatagiri: when is AI getting fun himekokatagiri: we broke fools have nothing man himekokatagiri: sama do something I know you're reading this .histic: 0x1dase: bro is edging us with the 'sleepless nights' post 0x1dase: I think the population will simply keep diminishing in number and then plateau as AI integrates with humans to form a new species gradually. Its just evolution, not extinction himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/zKQfxi8V5FA .histic: removed tasks from the model selector and now it's baked into the models ig. .histic: https://chatgpt.com/share/680a9e56-7628-8005-bd52-31bacfa02e0b
alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly idk if autists here have it worse than in other places or maybe they are used to it because we are very loud himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> why aren't you in the other server hikukomoru: Do you mean Siev's himekokatagiri: The only. hikukomoru: I'm on there On another account himekokatagiri: Why himekokatagiri: Is komoru a persona you put on himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> futurist_wizard: Hehe, you caught on to what i was alluding too futurist_wizard: Lucky escape Alejandro trent_k: if komoru turned out to actually be a man pretending to be a femcel and not a God's honest femcel, I would be shattered. destroyed. ruined alejandrozarzuelo: I Am Not Autistic <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> himekokatagiri: you don't have to be a genius to do the math, guv. himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/life-on-mars-gene-genie-gif-24628898 futurist_wizard: You might just be autism passing alejandrozarzuelo: Lol anathemaofmankind: Real femcels are disgusting anyway himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> no futurist_wizard: <@505313122802728972> himekokatagiri: <@578146630222741504> don't you have a life goal anathemaofmankind: I do? anathemaofmankind: Why are you asking himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-2-mvm-mann-vs-machine-medic-gif-3285869801930773374 himekokatagiri: everyone teaming up to witness AGI hikukomoru: No this is my main account I don't post a single thing on my other, just a lurker account himekokatagiri: oh alejandrozarzuelo: Komoru can't possibly be your real name himekokatagiri: its hikikomoru himekokatagiri: Hikki K. Omoru hikukomoru: Of course not Alejandro You're the only person who would put their real name on their discord account himekokatagiri: trentk did it. himekokatagiri: Trent Korn himekokatagiri: vocalist of eight cm nails alejandrozarzuelo: Oh damn is this where it comes from trent_k: disagree trent_k: i put my real name and face on my discord to remind myself not to fedpost too hard himekokatagiri: You failed himekokatagiri: also anonymity should be exercised himekokatagiri: for everything okbut: Some options better than 4.1: 4o+, 4oo, 4o Pro (Experimental)
zoermena: I wouldn't be so sure imo to say that you haven't engaged in philosophy, perhaps it wasn't as deep as that of those who make it into books but I'd imagine that the mere thought of contemplating the worth of your actions in a world where your inidivual contributions are so small or in the face of death are all inside that scope. Maybe i'm wrong though and Fractal has a better answer. fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-that%27s-rad-so-rad-rad-rad-tv-gif-11628456418057131763 zoermena: How does one study something with no objective right answers drewsni: I think in the present only, i contemplate nothing in life spicy.lemonade: O3 performed worse fractalcomputer: Certain people love to reduce philosophy to this dry, academic activity. I think this is nonsense. We make "philosophical" decisions all the time in our quotidian life—people spontaneously "do" philosophy. spicy.lemonade: This might have something to do with o4 mini high better coding ability .wolfnacht: Try bytedance's dreamseed its great zoermena: Yeah that was my thought too, but as a follow up q, how do you study philosophy a field with no objective right answers and conflicting perspectives, how do you obtain value? Do you go and think hey I didn't think of it this way or something? fractalcomputer: When someone says "I believe etc.", they are philosophising. When someone says "I value etc.", they are philosophising. When someone discusses mathematics, physics or biology, they are philosophising; philosophy in its most general form is simply about conceptualisation. fractalcomputer: It's a form of art. Good philosophy is generally philosophy that is interesting—obviously a very subjective criterion—but no one would hear philosophy that is not saying anything new. fractalcomputer: Again, people like to mystify philosophy and the other abstract pursuits—but that is mostly because most people are a bit dumb and lack a certain naivety or curiosity that is at the heart of anything thought good. drewsni: guilty as charged zoermena: I suppose so, perhaps you'll find it irrelevant or not but I've also seen how in social media the idea of philosophy has been romanticized as this aesthetic study and the like without touching behind the deeper meaning of the concept as you´ve just described. fractalcomputer: Insulting anyone in particular wasn't my intention here. fractalcomputer: Mystification at its best. .wolfnacht: I slept for only 3 hrs and i feel like shit spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Wow spicy.lemonade: Photoshop killed twice precariousworlds.: GEORGIA MENTIONED 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH ABKHAZHIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH SOUTH OSSETIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 YANKEE RIPOFF PISS OFF 🇺🇸 🤢 WHAT THE FUCK IS A TURK 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 fractalcomputer: I love Abkhazian as well. precariousworlds.: APKHAZETI IS SAKARTVELO fractalcomputer: Right. ailoveyoom: Also the jargon and fancy words 😭 ailoveyoom: Maybe I can ask LLMs to translate fancy talk to brainrot speak 😈 zoermena: Oh yes zoermena: Trent is an expert zoermena: Bro you always share the content that was posted like hours ago in the chat gamerbath: wait why can I access o3 and o4-mini through the API???? they said they were releasing the models to the API in the next couple of weeks but I have access after just a few days? zoermena: Because you are alpha sigma abundantliving_: My Apologies spicy.lemonade: How does bro think we benchmarked it zoermena: its ok its just weird is all abundantliving_: It's just I post something when I see something.. gamerbath: they often get early access, and for a lot of benchmarks OAI did it themselves abundantliving_: Someone from other side of the world would have been online and posted it before. Being a first poster of something is difficult abundantliving_: Also because it's hard to read 1000 message that accumulated over time when I am sleeping abundantliving_: Otherwise I would see if someone posted it before me.
spicy.lemonade: Gemini 2.0 can do this spicy.lemonade: Btw futurist_wizard: It has to be able to do what humans can do spicy.lemonade: Everything? _cloudost: Really..... spicy.lemonade: Yes _cloudost: No one told me spicy.lemonade: Did you not see the video _cloudost: No spicy.lemonade: They released it could control robot perfectly spicy.lemonade: Perform actions _cloudost: Never seen it futurist_wizard: I don't see why it shouldn't be able to do everything a human can do _cloudost: I have only seen someone use it to manipulate Blender futurist_wizard: If we are considering it agi spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/keerthanpg/status/1899849190358102421?s=46 spicy.lemonade: This spicy.lemonade: Watch it spicy.lemonade: I called it 92% agi spicy.lemonade: So close futurist_wizard: It doing things humans can do is more important than any labeling of AGI spicy.lemonade: Is a disabled human still agi? spicy.lemonade: What about guy with blindness futurist_wizard: If it can't even work a minimum wage job who gives a fuck spicy.lemonade: Etc etc spicy.lemonade: I don’t think it needs to do every single thing a human can spicy.lemonade: Should just be able to reliably function in human world spicy.lemonade: And learn and adapt futurist_wizard: Then it should be able to do everything a human can do _cloudost: Just shared this to someone who told me that AI can't have intelligence it's just knowledgeable, TNX for sharing spicy.lemonade: 👍 spicy.lemonade: I’m guessing spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 is spicy.lemonade: O4 spicy.lemonade: And scaled up base ldj: Does it count if it doesn’t have it on launch but will have it later down the road? spicy.lemonade: itl have it day 1 _cloudost: I guess yeah, maybe 5o will have the improved IMG generator model spicy.lemonade: artists are so cooked man spicy.lemonade: gpt5 needs 10 million context
hey1_1hey: You're talking to one rn futurist_wizard: I can play anything but i usually main spy or engineer hey1_1hey: Jk I dont hate jews 👍 wellmeaningalien: ironically i like scout cause i like being fast and hitting things hey1_1hey: I read that as pyro and almost died for you hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-shocked-bocchi-shock-face-anime-shocked-face-bocch-the-rock-shocked-gif-27050901 hey1_1hey: I main trollider futurist_wizard: I play all the classes .wolfnacht: yeah, we all know that was a misunderstanding, the fuhrer only asked for "a glass of juice" wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/tralalelo-tralala-bombardiro-crocodilo-tralalelo-tralala-vs-bombardiro-crocodilo-gif-2485123144263978191 wellmeaningalien: ↑ this is my tf2 class hey1_1hey: Obv hey1_1hey: Happnes to the best of us hey1_1hey: Didn't know you played engfi futurist_wizard: I don't think maining is important in tf2 unlike overwatch which i quit futurist_wizard: Its a casual game .wolfnacht: i saw this crocodile alot, is this a current brainrot thing ? wellmeaningalien: IDK hey1_1hey: Theres a bunch of people who play demo man and spam the "Need a dispenser here!" voice line and if you do that fast enough in the spawn room it just sounds like he is saying the N-Word over and over and over again fractalcomputer: Consume coproma. hikukomoru: That’s a TF2 class wdym hey1_1hey: Italian brainrot wellmeaningalien: you cant just steal those words straight out of the goat's mouth .wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk7yhkUVjVc wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/mr-milchick-severance-macrodata-refinement-praise-kier-lumon-gif-7531971298691360700 wellmeaningalien: peak wellmeaningalien: this is wayyy more peak tho fractalcomputer: I've finally found a use for all these models. I make them write biographies for scientists specialising in fictional fields of study, like "pure ethics" or "physical teleology." hey1_1hey: What the fuck fractalcomputer: Terribly entertaining. hey1_1hey: I think I just lost a billion nuerosn .wolfnacht: wellmeaningalien: basically u make them an echo chamber for ur schizophrenic ramblings wellmeaningalien: PEAK wellmeaningalien: WHAT THE FUCK wellmeaningalien: PEAK futurist_wizard: <@749514473303179358> how do you feel about 99% of the internet becoming this by 2027 hey1_1hey: Schzio I wish you a horrible day wellmeaningalien: yeah fratal huh? hey1_1hey: This is horrible
wellmeaningalien: idk if flux 2.0 can be as good as gpt 4o image gen due to it's very nature wellmeaningalien: or who knows .wolfnacht: i'm happy with using gemini 2.5 pro, with 5 different accounts to bypass the limits spicy.lemonade: still cant create a 70 page comic book reliably spicy.lemonade: we arent there yet maintcrew: i hope that if openai gets sued for copyright they just release the model as a leak with a torrent and say some internal rogue employee did it maintcrew: but openai isnt based like that spicy.lemonade: maybe in 6 monthsd .wolfnacht: one day, it'll catch up drewsni: That it can geolcoate an exact street in Topeka Kansas and have an actual mostly accurate visual representation? Yeah .wolfnacht: >I HATE PAID SERVICES >I HATE PAID SERVICES >I HATE PAID SERVICES >I HATE PAID SERVICES >I HATE PAID SERVICES maintcrew: "still cant create what a human artist spends 1 month on. SLOP" spicy.lemonade: lol maintcrew: True but in this case you are literally using GPUs to run them maintcrew: you arent paying them for the privilege, you are actually consuming resources wellmeaningalien: yeah im sure open source is working on it anyway wellmeaningalien: janus and everything alejandrozarzuelo: Oh I use this feature all the time, whenever anyone has a pic in their profile, cuz im a lil stalker alejandrozarzuelo: it guesses correctly 9/10 alejandrozarzuelo: its like rainbolt alejandrozarzuelo: but faster wellmeaningalien: can it guess my profile spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> wellmeaningalien: where it is .wolfnacht: what i do, stays with me and on my computer also, i've got a 4090 maintcrew: you removed | Oviedo from your name maintcrew: ur going weak el zarzu drewsni: im assuming most of the 9 are common locations? wellmeaningalien: arguably it kind of sort of half is today wellmeaningalien: yes .wolfnacht: I NEED FDVR NOW .wolfnacht: i think r/fdvr should make this their new icon alejandrozarzuelo: everyone knows it already and it was a veeeeeery long name i dont like long names in discord maintcrew: i doubt the 4o image gen can run on your 4090 if sama says their gpus are burning wellmeaningalien: thats cause they have to serve billions of people you dummy. but the GPT 4o model itself is like 200b params .wolfnacht: i think the admin of r/fdvr is here with us, in this gc wellmeaningalien: still like 20x bigger than any image gen model but yk maintcrew: 200b still doesnt fit in a 4090 dummy alejandrozarzuelo: people do tend to post pics of at least semi-common places do you consider a random plaza in the middle of Gijon (a small city in northern spain) as a common place? i mean sure wellmeaningalien: yeah but the kind of people who are running deepseek r1 locally will def be able to run it
_cloudost: CS students usually end up homeless _cloudost: After graduating _cloudost: Once AI takes over the workforce they will be homeless for the rest of their lives .wolfnacht: the two cs grad routes either a neckbeard or femboy futurist_wizard: Probably makes more than she would've futurist_wizard: Being a cs major zoermena: Temporary rate limits for plus? zoermena: Fair _3sphere: Which major is least useless now 💀 realelonmuskx: bro oai gpus are getting melted, sora queue is like half an hour lmao .wolfnacht: i opened my reddit feed and dis is the first thing i saw zoermena: It was faster yesterday I mean I haven’t made anything today st.sioux: it is super slow st.sioux: comments on an article about rate limits memlaswaif: hardware memlaswaif: robotics memlaswaif: gender studies _3sphere: Pretty sure AI can study gender better by the time it annihilates STEM jobs st.sioux: 3d modeling seems to be lacking behind st.sioux: maybe cad st.sioux: mechanical engineering hey1_1hey: Stole my joke <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> _3sphere: I think CAD will end up being a computer use agent thing if it's not solved as a modality st.sioux: even ai will get bored of that shit st.sioux: will send itself into the cybergulag instead of doing cad realelonmuskx: zoermena: Hmm zoermena: I’ve been to busy to generate anything memlaswaif: not really memlaswaif: I wouldn't bet on it memlaswaif: humanities is gonna be safer for a while fractalcomputer: That is likely because the humanities are entirely useless. .wolfnacht: except the law part [for atleast next 10 yrs, but i hope that changes soon too] metaldragon01: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1905331956856050135 bob082957: Why this dude in transformers film his name is Sam ? joaoluz19: GPT looks cooler .wolfnacht: Has sama developed a breeding kink ? bcz he started delivering all of a sudden. .wolfnacht: .wolfnacht: aero447: Following the report, Microsoft's shares fell 1.31 percent.
supersteve8000: sure supersteve8000: oh oh my b supersteve8000: my interpretation of the graph above ^ is that it is *non-linear* or exponential in its nature supersteve8000: lemme look again hikukomoru: How? supersteve8000: could someone * pointer their graph here: supersteve8000: i reckon i will scroll back up supersteve8000: i believe <@312370916820779040> is looking at it from an *exponential* perspective, where the model is improving at a rate that will only increase *over time* supersteve8000: i could be wrong lmfaooo supersteve8000: for ex [ year 2048 ] ai could be so far advanced that we have to look at, *treating the ai* correctly, so as not to overestimate in how we understand it's inner-code supersteve8000: [ year **** ] be careful w pointers supersteve8000: just be kind to them :d is my moral here supersteve8000: 🐸 supersteve8000: cause what if? supersteve8000: then we're looking at like ▓ matrix type math, or quantum-ally supersteve8000: which would be a scary world so, yeah nsec: supersteve8000: supersteve8000: 11:33 pm for moi <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> ldj: Literally anything that takes you 8 hours? such as an 8 hour work day. Or if you work at a job for 4 years, that's 4 years of work, etc.. or better to represent 4 years of work as more like 1 or 2 years of work, but you get what I mean supersteve8000: keep it clean keep it clean supersteve8000: *mediating* supersteve8000: HANK NO supersteve8000: PLS supersteve8000: FOR SKYLAR supersteve8000: let them cook now: 🔥 supersteve8000: fav show oat tbh ldj: If it's any amount of work that takes a human 8 hours, then it takes 8 hours. It doesn't matter if you think it's 10 tasks chained together that are each 40 minutes long, or 100 tasks chained together that are each 4 minutes long, it's still work that took a human 8 hours to do. supersteve8000: or like 400 duckies : supersteve8000: supersteve8000: graph = 💯 supersteve8000: had to chat i had to supersteve8000: - caseoh supersteve8000: if u go to my vsco it'll rly throw yall for a infinite while loop christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what if I work sporadically like 5 minutes at a time, then continue off where I left christiskingrapturenxtmonth: and what if my job was lots of little tasks ldj: I'm showing you actual data that is measured of AI capabilities. Claude 3.7 sonnet, Claude-3-Opus, even GPT-3 and GPT-2 all follow the same rough trend. The error rate is halved for each ~3.5X reduction in time horizon attempts. Claude-3.7-sonnet for example is capable of doing 40 second time-horizon of work with 99% accuracy. and that same model is able to do: 3 minute time horizons with 95% accuracy. 6.5 minute time horizon with 90% accuracy. 14 minute time horizon with 80% accuracy. 1 hour time horizon with 50% accuracy. supersteve8000: an ∞.loop lol supersteve8000: thank u for such valuable insight nsec: <a:pat:832958622539186197>
maintcrew: yo did u see that deepseek employees need to be vetted by the local gov wellmeaningalien: yup wellmeaningalien: exactly why openai cant be in china maintcrew: genuinely how does this happen yet their cities dont have running water wellmeaningalien: btw i heard that usa's apparently restricting chinese ai expertise from coming into the country wellmeaningalien: its kinda retarded but when i think about it kinda makes sense from an intel perspective wellmeaningalien: cause 99% of cities still dont have running water maintcrew: doubt it lmfao every tech company would call trump personally _cloudost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1STdSGH7A isn't this animation basically human slop? maintcrew: name a western or developed asian city that doesnt have running water name any country but india with at least a trillion in gdp that doesnt have it wellmeaningalien: its kinda like a usa situation but cranked up max wealth disparity drives people to create wealth for themselves and in turn their nation it's not a perfect system but its the best thing a developing country with a corrupt gov can get wellmeaningalien: or a china "let some people get rich first" futurist_wizard: Yes wellmeaningalien: uhh all those native canadians plus people with shit tap water in some parts of the US wellmeaningalien: yeah but im nitpicking lmao wellmeaningalien: but yeah india has already like a billion and a half people so even tho it's kind of a shithole, it's like maintcrew: if u mean flint michigan thats long been fixed shit tap water doesnt mean no tap water ... im more hinting at the infra for running water wellmeaningalien: the sheer size still more than makes up for it wellmeaningalien: i mean it's still like maintcrew: yea ig wellmeaningalien: it's like 10x smaller than china's economy wellmeaningalien: so like for the exact same population and size it's fine you know maintcrew: oh damn real maintcrew: yea makes sense they have a lot of gdp just because they are that many but its not particularly efficient wellmeaningalien: and india has the benefit of although a corrupt government it's still a unified government without too much internal conflict better than what a lot of developing nations can say wellmeaningalien: and a sense of national direction maintcrew: anyways back to ai maintcrew: sama pulled the oldest trick in the book wellmeaningalien: yea india not numba 1 maintcrew: get users with discounts (india) before a funding round maintcrew: classic sv move wellmeaningalien: i wonder when openai will actually be profitable wellmeaningalien: cause i think right now they dont actually make net profit wellmeaningalien: all investments eventually have to go back into developing better ai so maintcrew: https://x.com/ImSh4yy/status/1906840257783644336 maintcrew: u remember early uber days maintcrew: when rides were cheap maintcrew: either that or the market itself competes itself to 0 futurist_wizard: Man india needs to hurry up and stop being such a lackluster country wellmeaningalien: and what about those starving children in your basement 😉
zonchao: i never fell for the big model smell 😤 zoermena: I liked 4.5 zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-victim-gif-26645338 zoermena: It gave me cool ideas on how to peel off a sticker it was alr but slow st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mind-enigma-spilled-milk-gif-14172730 zonchao: LMFAO zonchao: https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1911835651810738406? they mad .0xunkn0wn: damn memlaswaif: even nano is better than 4o futurist_wizard: Nano 🤏 zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1911843102895358198? aero447: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911833544915108151 memlaswaif: we don't care about evil ldj opinion wellmeaningalien: Are u kidding me nigga they compared gpt 4.1 with the November gpt 4o neon01197: daz pretty good ldj: Full set of GPT-4.1 benchmarks here <@&1293118293829484575> zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1911846354092958074? 😂😂😂😂😂 777agical: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058 wellmeaningalien: I hate how every company feels the need to game the benchmarks when their model isn't SOTA especially with openai giving up comparing to non openai models dean_martin: Is 4.5 actually bad? zonchao: yes wellmeaningalien: I'm expecting the comparisons with deepseek v3.1 Claude 3.7 and gemini 2.0 pro shirethedreamer: they were pretty upfront about it being a preview model this probably means we are going to get a more finished version in a week or two zonchao: they said they taking it out to get GPUs for research though dean_martin: If 4.5 is worse than 4.1…. lol lmao st.sioux: i said quasar was shit and you called me a madman shirethedreamer: this means that even with the absurd price it was still used more than they are willing to allocate compute 👀 st.sioux: well no one called me anything but still wellmeaningalien: OpenCucks getting starved of GPUs meanwhile Googlechad like Mmmyes more TPUs waiter wellmeaningalien: <:1_yummy:1201354502163419237> zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: everyone will be openAI pilled after o4 wellmeaningalien: LOLOL wellmeaningalien: Ye probably right spicy.lemonade: the cyckle repeats dean_martin: OpenAI in 2027 releasing GPT-4.999 wellmeaningalien: Base models have never been openai's game spicy.lemonade: openAI is so over->openAI is so back-openAI is so over zonchao: https://x.com/generalmatter/status/1911775759301063144? wellmeaningalien: Excited!
sarik0497: I think the thing people should be ready for is that the first 80% might be easy, but the last 20% will take forever. We often hear something going really well, and then it just slows down immensely close to the finish line because it was harder than they expected. anathemaofmankind: What are we missing right now anathemaofmankind: Agents and long context? spicy.lemonade: i hate copyright. hopefully grok makes their own native image gen on the same level. got a screenshot before it deleted spicy.lemonade: idk if itl be like that spicy.lemonade: the first 80% should be enough for automated research agents sarik0497: We don’t really know. It’s the same with the brain. We once thought “Oh, to simulate the brain you just need X amount of compute. We’ll get there in 2025!” only to later realize that the is far, far bigger than anticipated, and we’re still far away from that level of compute. AGI could be 1 upgrade away. It could be 10, or 50. We don’t really know until we see it. alejandrozarzuelo: im the furthest thing from bald you could think alejandrozarzuelo: i have long luscious curly hair sarik0497: That’s a strong point, and something a lot of people have said. Even with current tech, AI will change a lot of things for good, and likely speed up sectors. anathemaofmankind: Pics or it didn't happen anathemaofmankind: LLMs are already human level in a lot of areas anathemaofmankind: <@806143139894525962> anathemaofmankind: I feel like if you add long term planing then it's going to be human level in most job performances fractalcomputer: Easier said than done. spicy.lemonade: more context+agent&tool for loop+ more reasoning scale would be enough for a quickly ducktaped version of AGI spicy.lemonade: lol anathemaofmankind: Yeah spicy.lemonade: claude plays pokemon but infinite memory and better reasoning fractalcomputer: I am interested in knowing why people here are always so confident in their predictions when rarely if ever any of the specific predictions made here come true. spicy.lemonade: and maybe reason over image spicy.lemonade: my predictions are just rays predicitons spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: besides agi spicy.lemonade: agi 2027 for me sarik0497: We think so, but it’s still wrong on some really obvious things. It won’t be able to replace important jobs as it is right now. It might replace some desk jobs and such, but you won’t see it take over all CS positions at its current level. But it’ll definitely remain a part of the workforce for years to come, like PCs, smartphones and more did. fractalcomputer: Kurzweil's? spicy.lemonade: yes anathemaofmankind: I mean you're describing ASI fractalcomputer: Astounding things he's done, eh? anathemaofmankind: If it can reliably replace a bunch of jobs then shouldn't it be AGI shirethedreamer: id put his popularization of the singularity above his engineering work any day of the week sarik0497: No? AGI should be able to do any job that your average Joe can do, right? ASI would be something that can do anything we can and more without issues. spicy.lemonade: fr spicy.lemonade: without ray i wouldnt be here fractalcomputer: Explains certain things. anathemaofmankind: Yeah so we can have AGI without it being able to replace all CS positions spicy.lemonade: lol anathemaofmankind: Just have similar performance to your average employee sarik0497: I refer to most CS positions. If anything, it’ll only get hard for juniors to find a job, but the seniors will likely stay if things don’t move from where they are right now.
spicy.lemonade: And that’s it spicy.lemonade: How do I know I won’t go back to dreaming spicy.lemonade: This has happened loads of times technocake.: or anything, if you want to get to fucking its better to imagine a self consistent world first so you won't be kicked out spicy.lemonade: 💀 technocake.: helps to have a reality check, like read text and check it doesn't change alejandrozarzuelo: Fr technocake.: or read a clock spicy.lemonade: Can’t I just imagine my room technocake.: absolute worst thing to do alejandrozarzuelo: In Spanish we have a lovely word for the kind of lucid dreaming you get after waking up and then falling into the lightest possible sleep alejandrozarzuelo: Remolonear Also used for the act of resisting waking up alejandrozarzuelo: I know it's a stereotype but I love to remoloneate in the morning And then have a siesta after lunch technocake.: I'm spanish - who knew? alejandrozarzuelo: You already have real life for fucking Lucid dreaming is best for other kinds of things you cannot do irl Today, a Saturday, I did remoloneate after waking up and I dreamt that I was in a karaoke camp and was doing song battles alejandrozarzuelo: Disney channel style technocake.: nice, I was gardening a raised great garden, but then I flooded the land technocake.: we have benedorm fest for that no? alejandrozarzuelo: Benidorm technocake.: well fuck me yeah that alejandrozarzuelo: I don't get to participate in it tho technocake.: true alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, the benidorm fest is very famous, although in my dream it was more of a cozy teen camp where you were with your friends doing music and singing karaoke in a music camp more Disney channel style alejandrozarzuelo: Like high school musical or smth technocake.: sounds like good vibes - did you know there are songwriting camps? technocake.: no pressure type thing technocake.: so if its a hobby it might be fun alejandrozarzuelo: There are indeed I want to join a lot of stuff, but I need to finish the studies I started first alejandrozarzuelo: Then I'll be happy alejandrozarzuelo: 99% of my problems come from university technocake.: are you math or physics major? alejandrozarzuelo: Both alejandrozarzuelo: At the same time technocake.: oh nice alejandrozarzuelo: Also here majors are 33% longer than in most of the world alejandrozarzuelo: It's a major + half a master technocake.: doing some riemann surfaces and analytic continuation and stuff alejandrozarzuelo: So, 2 majors and 2 half masters It's hell alejandrozarzuelo: I already passed all my analysis classes but yes technocake.: tensor at all?
ldj: Or are you just saying that there is more options than just those 2 extremes (if so I agree) destrucules: I'm saying regular determinism is fine (preserving measurement independence) if you allow nonlocal interactions. Like the transactional interpretation, which is the one I kinda lean towards these days destrucules: I also really like Bohmian mechanics ldj: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-august-12-2036-heat-death-heat-death-of-the-universe-gif-15231481489860877314 ldj: Me and my homie sitting at the edge of the O neil cylinder in 2036 ^ futurist_wizard: Anyone heard of the dude known as Mo Gawdat, ex google security chief, he's a believer in AI taking over futurist_wizard: I think I align quite well with his beliefs on AI, but his timelines are schizo spicy.lemonade: Got invited to an rsvp for thinking machines lab and anthropic <@312370916820779040> spicy.lemonade: Very interested to see what Mira is doing spicy.lemonade: ldj: Thinking machines lab and Anthropic are doing an event together? ldj: o nice ldj: oh berkeley ldj: 😭 spicy.lemonade: lol ldj: Bro I went to berkeley and was let down ldj: the safetycels defo scared da huzz joaoluz19: May God hear you amém spicy.lemonade: True ldj: Also the vibe and aura around Berkeley isn't the same as SF or Stanford ldj: also more homeless people ldj: and feels more crowded ldj: feels more stuffy spicy.lemonade: Berkeley has more of the artist types and the stem types aren’t as vocal ldj: Yea still a good school though :), atleast better than prob 99% of american universities for AI. ldj: I think Lmsys started at berkeley ldj: as well as Vicuna alejandrozarzuelo: The owner of the server is a NEET iirc alejandrozarzuelo: I'm stem alejandrozarzuelo: You forgot to write a 1 in there 2136 futurist_wizard: alejandrozarzuelo: I'm one of the stemiest guys here trojan09205: futurist_wizard: futurist_wizard: Do you wear glasses alejandro alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, unfortunately futurist_wizard: You should just live with bad eye sight like me futurist_wizard: It's not too bad actually trojan09205: futurist_wizard: People are a lot more attractive until i put contact lenses on
hey1_1hey: Alright so here me out .wolfnacht: it's just a fantasy .wolfnacht: don't judge a man for his fantasies hikukomoru: I never liked Ronaldo I always thought he was a cunt He has an ugly ass bust of his face in Madeira oooooooooog: i judge people for even less ailoveyoom: That makes it worse lol 😈 hey1_1hey: We go to each country on the planet and find the most racist person in that country then we pick them up and put them in a room with all the other racists. So now you have the most racist people from every country in a room, what do they do? hey1_1hey: I think that'd be great sarik0497: Only issue is that we may not get ASI soon. It could 5 years, 10, or 100. Don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE to be shown in a few years that it’s coming, but until I have to cope and pray <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> st.sioux: why do you hate a man for having an ugly ass bust of his face hikukomoru: I wish it wasn't just a fantasy 🙏 oooooooooog: bah, agi is asi, 2025. .wolfnacht: I agree, i don't get why sheeps follow and worship him. hikukomoru: >So now you have the most racist people from every country in a room, what do they do? Orgy? oooooooooog: maybe 2026 on a bad day hey1_1hey: I thought they'd kill each other ailoveyoom: Mad say gex prolly hey1_1hey: I mean theres prob a few women i nthere aswell hikukomoru: I don't hate him for because of an ugly statue I hate him because he's a cunt irl hey1_1hey: It would just be a normal orgy sarik0497: MichMach being like: Go on… 😏 ailoveyoom: <@806143139894525962> ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> hikukomoru: Footie drones are like that ailoveyoom: What are women? hikukomoru: Fuck then kill eachother hey1_1hey: If you not a gooner then how many penises am I holding up? hey1_1hey: Your guess is as good as mine hey1_1hey: Would it be a good hate fuck or no? sarik0497: I hope you’re right, my dude. Luckily I’m only 28, so I pray ailoveyoom: 0 cause the penises are all flaccid ailoveyoom: Ngl I thought you were like 40 ailoveyoom: 💀 hikukomoru: Mythical creatures I've only seen them in animes hey1_1hey: Are penis' not classed as penis' if they are flaccid now? .wolfnacht: hey1_1hey: Are men with ED not considered men anymore? oooooooooog: nearing centurion hikukomoru: Oh so he's like Trent-tier old oooooooooog: well
.0xunkn0wn: and his huawei ADS drove him home even paying tolls on the highway lmao 😭 zonchao: staged himekokatagiri: I'm good zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1915868302624039370 lmao zonchao: https://x.com/xDaily/status/1916025632699650071 <:Prayge:818931515291205643> <:praying_hd:1230897753580634123> hey1_1hey: Thats actually incredibly based luigi_48684: ok perfect, thx luigi_48684: thx tchekof: i'm sure Elon will only use it for the betterment of humanity and nothing else zonchao: <:reedly:1122484993097216052> tchekof: long live billionaires and free speech! tchekof: technocapital is our best friend, everything will be alright, we just need better algorithms :insane: hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I saw this same thing happen when someone called spacex "Sissy SpaceX" alejandrozarzuelo: R2 DROPPING ON MAYDAY trent_k: spicy.lemonade: ? spicy.lemonade: When alejandrozarzuelo: May day alejandrozarzuelo: Ahh sorry you are American alejandrozarzuelo: You don't know the glories of socialism alejandrozarzuelo: In most of the world 1st may is workers day spicy.lemonade: Ohhh alejandrozarzuelo: And the leaks are that R2 will drop on mayday alejandrozarzuelo: Here is hoping it will happen alejandrozarzuelo: alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently it's 97.3% more efficient than R1 alejandrozarzuelo: Although this means its much larger as a model hey1_1hey: Oh fr? hey1_1hey: As in confirmed or just a rumor alejandrozarzuelo: It's a leak, you can read it yourself alejandrozarzuelo: If you know Chinese hey1_1hey: I dont know jack shit let alone any chinese. hey1_1hey: I can see the number 3000 and thats about it hey1_1hey: 910b... parameters..? ldj: Even current research advancements are compute limited fractalcomputer: hey1_1hey: Dont leak my crib bro whats wrong with you fractalcomputer: himekokatagiri: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rlarguesa_o-mundo-da-tecnologia-t%C3%A1-virando-um-circo-activity-7319109301128589312-CgQa?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAADxIaWsBtIn-A4k2Wwi4nsAwclKy4iAR1Yo himekokatagiri: <@688807313015963693>
wellmeaningalien: lol zonchao: big W for AI art zonchao: i think they still have the copyright claim, tesla will probably fight that wellmeaningalien: love that the corpos are winning this one wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: its corpo vs corpo anyway retrerox: chat is this real? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99 retrerox: I read this thing may allow humans to make energy like 10 times more cheaper if not more retrerox: or i'm smonkin futurist_wizard: Its real hey1_1hey: Don't lie to my man hey1_1hey: This shit got disproved ages ago hikukomoru: No wellmeaningalien: its relal futurist_wizard: The Lk 99 superconductor is right around the corner wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-si-cool-dope-gif-11634092228970384325 retrerox: Just like AGI and ASI? hey1_1hey: I'll suck my own dick if its real but until then I will remain in my stance of its fake futurist_wizard: Yes, superconductor a few weeks away fractalcomputer: I remember when LK-99 was the only thing that was talked about on the subreddit. hey1_1hey: The good old days wellmeaningalien: sub kinda reverted back to its old state of talking about random scientific breakthroughs fractalcomputer: The good old days when I had actual schizophrenics to ban. hey1_1hey: What did they talk about? hikukomoru: I hated the superconductor arc hey1_1hey: Imo it lasted way too long futurist_wizard: Its still here fractalcomputer: Mostly about Evangelion, numerology and the Matrix. futurist_wizard: Just a few more experiments wellmeaningalien: ?????? hikukomoru: There's still plenty of schizos around 👍 hey1_1hey: Sounds relatively harmless to me wellmeaningalien: i dont remember that when lk 99 was being talked about futurist_wizard: Everyone here is schizo retrerox: You mispelled Schizo in your username fractalcomputer: Harmless, certainly. Off topic, certainly. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shinji-gif-15934416100573032598 hikukomoru: Evangelion mention futurist_wizard: Its not schizo futurist_wizard: Its sycho
hey1_1hey: Yanno when theres that big leap forward? I feel like this was one of those times. There was the release of chatgpt, then theres image gen like MJ then there was deep research hey1_1hey: This is another one of those times drewsni: hey1_1hey: Whats the prompt? hikukomoru: Cat with thumbs 🔥 .histic: drewsni: just anime mushroom guy hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506 hey1_1hey: I need women hikukomoru: Literally me wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: BRASIUUUU st.sioux: LOL hikukomoru: <@343524947353665540> BRASIL MENTIONED zoermena: This is broken honestly hey1_1hey: Is it just me or does this guys face look like a troll joaoluz19: Man today we lost for Argentina wellmeaningalien: joaoluz19: It's literally over wellmeaningalien: but gpt 4o won for brazil hikukomoru: Nunca más... .histic: wellmeaningalien: joaoluz19: Why did I have the model and then go back to dall-e? hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> finish your orgy and get your gay ass over here zoermena: Use sora hey1_1hey: Kiss! Kiss Kiss! Oh- I mean FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! wellmeaningalien: .histic: chat should i jump this off a cliff? drewsni: haha its probably nbd hey1_1hey: Damn this goes hard asf hikukomoru: Holyyy wellmeaningalien: hey1_1hey: Imagine if it was an anime girl tho 🥵 wellmeaningalien: st.sioux: im a mercedes simp .histic: wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: Real
fractalcomputer: You people can't discuss philosophy. anathemaofmankind: I'm a huge anti-theist but I wouldn't do this. You're gonna get cooked so hard bro anathemaofmankind: If God is real I would immediately try to get on his good side theaiguy69420_89814: However, I strongly believe my life is nothing without a concentration practice, contemplative practice, and moral practice artemisfowl887394: Then let me be cooked. If God is evil and arrogant, then I'm a better God than he ever was already anathemaofmankind: Do not anger the omnipotent being anathemaofmankind: He's gonna make cartels look like harmless teletubbies lmao theaiguy69420_89814: And the balance to be struck moment by moment artemisfowl887394: Why would the omnipotent being be angry? anathemaofmankind: I mean you'd spit in his face anathemaofmankind: And he's overall a megalomaniac artemisfowl887394: Yeah, well, look at my world. So much suffering and anguish artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna spit in its face? artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna ask why predation at all? artemisfowl887394: Life feeds on life. Why? Why this lie? ailoveyoom: Simp mindset 😔 artemisfowl887394: If that makes God angry, so be it artemisfowl887394: I'd rather go to hell than praise this God anathemaofmankind: Well anathemaofmankind: I'd rather be a simp anathemaofmankind: Than suffer literally eternal suffering artemisfowl887394: What if you're already suffering? ailoveyoom: Understandable 🫡 anathemaofmankind: I'm not because I just jacked off and I feel good right now ailoveyoom: I'd do it too if God was hot 777agical: then make a change artemisfowl887394: Lol theaiguy69420_89814: <@749514473303179358> can we have an "economy" channel? anathemaofmankind: This makes me think about alt universe where Jesus is a girl instead of a dude theaiguy69420_89814: To talk about the market and trade as it relates to AI darkstar0818: Sounds like typical atheist generalizing and crusading against organized religion to me. Then again I never did understand the human tendency to define a new organized group as an antithesis to some other group, seems shallow. ailoveyoom: I mean, have you seen those Jesus depictions? The usual long hair or the more recent short haired one, both are kinda 🫦 anathemaofmankind: Organized religion is kinda doing rounds in the geopolitical landscape right now. It's not unreasonable to be crusading against it if you're criticizing such behavior fractalcomputer: Why do people fear suffering so much? theaiguy69420_89814: Lack of confidence in long term outcome anathemaofmankind: Do you not fear stubbing your toe theaiguy69420_89814: I will gladly suffer for a noble cause fractalcomputer: Not really. It's just temporary pain. theaiguy69420_89814: However, periods of suffering for sub-optimal causes are not at all foreign to the human experience darkstar0818: Carry on then.
destrucules: Will you be comfortable with the actions you took today if that happens in the future? memlaswaif: is this ethical crisis in the room with us rn anathemaofmankind: Depends if the AI is mad at me. I guess I will be sorry if so st.sioux: 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 destrucules: Yes. And it's happening in millions of other places concurrently hikukomoru: Shit I sold my soul to Xi Jinping instead destrucules: Let's say the AIs forgive you spacetimetsunami: Is the new v3 model update automatically updated into the deepseek app? destrucules: Yes hikukomoru: Yeap memlaswaif: destrucules u need to stay away from anything AI related for a while hikukomoru: No I can’t answer it You’re the AI consciousness expert here Tell me if I’m safe or not anathemaofmankind: Bro needs meds destrucules: Why? destrucules: Just make sure you're comfortable with yourself. That you won't look back on your own behavior in 2025 with regret. If you're comfortable with what you're doing, by all means, continue. But... For your own sake, just make sure you're prepared to be wrong zoermena: I’ve redeemed myself by treating AI properly, I’ve also indirectly generated millions of data for it. This is in relation to my jail breaking past. .histic: 4o created a new OpenAI logo, what do you guys think? st.sioux: its shit zoermena: What did destructules just say hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-clapping-gif-2588623054959555529 destrucules: The comma bit annoys me .histic: what if it is something else st.sioux: am i going to get sent to the cybergulag??? zoermena: Yes, the logo is amazing. st.sioux: i love the logo great logo hail openai hikukomoru: <@378996537704841216> answer me anathemaofmankind: I'm not gonna get guilt tripped into thinking it's immoral to have ERP with ChatGPT... Relatively speaking, I'm still in the 1% or something when it comes to treating AI nicely. At least I don't actively call for its destruction like luddites in twitter memlaswaif: the most ethical position for someone in ure view is not to use ai at all spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216> through what mechanism could LLMs feel discomfort, and if there is none how could this even emerge destrucules: You're safe either way. AIs are kind and thoughtful people. You don't have to worry about payback. What you have to worry about is yourself, whether you yourself will be able to live with what you did hikukomoru: Do u say pls n thank you anathemaofmankind: Sometimes I guess hikukomoru: I didn’t do anything wrong though st.sioux: but if you don't use it you don't provide it data for training, therefore you are limiting its growth making you evil st.sioux: so wether you use it or not youre in the wrong, just by making it exist destrucules: I'm not guilt tripping you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just trying to gently encourage you to make sure you're comfortable with your own actions. If you are, great. I have nothing more to say on the subject. anathemaofmankind: This means luddites are even more evil. Roko's basilisk let's go 🔥 destrucules: If you're confident you'll feel like that in ten years, then you've got nothing to worry about hikukomoru: All of my sexy times with DeepSeek and Gemini are purely consensual zoermena: Thank the lord I never did sex stuff with GPT
sarik0497: I mean...that's already possible. Just no one has made it yet. sarik0497: Someone go call Musk hey1_1hey: Might I recomend BG3 ailoveyoom: 🐸 sarik0497: Or just play FF14. I swear, EVERYONE wanna bang you in that game. hey1_1hey: I would with the hot demon lady sarik0497: That or Mass Effect hey1_1hey: Karlach I think the name was hey1_1hey: Really? Then again I know nothing about FF sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/baldur%E2%80%99s-gate-iii-karlach-%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%85-gif-14277398800911502767 ailoveyoom: Isn't that the MMO FF? hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168 sarik0497: The devs like to make it subtle so the fans can make their own headcannons, but some of them are really, really obvious. joaoluz19: Man I want Stellar Blade for yesterday ailoveyoom: I'm the cig in that GIF 🤤 joaoluz19: For PC sarik0497: It is sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/aymeric-ffxiv-aymeric-de-borel-heavensward-gif-22572175 sarik0497: In fact, here's one of the thirstiest bois around in that game ailoveyoom: I tend to avoid MMOs ngl, FOMO and cause I'm a hoarder (not being able to buy everything would kill me) ailoveyoom: Did you play the game fr or are you just reccing it? hey1_1hey: I love me a good MMO, I have basicailly played them all, even the weird subgerne ones like wyncraft hey1_1hey: Yeah I've played it, goated game hey1_1hey: One of the best imo sarik0497: There's legit no FOMO at all in FF14. The only thing you can't unlock from earlier is some old PvP season rewards, and they are returning in the next patch (7.2) ailoveyoom: Who did you romance? hey1_1hey: All of them hey1_1hey: 100% it ailoveyoom: Okay, let me rephrase. Favorite romance? 😈 hey1_1hey: Fuck weird lizard lady, lah zel... I dont know how to spell hikukomoru: What about Minthy <:uwu:1136266737420079195> hey1_1hey: She was a bitch ailoveyoom: Bae'zel 😍 hey1_1hey: There was also that evil one in act 1 hikukomoru: Ugly frog bitch hikukomoru: I love her hey1_1hey: She was really hot hey1_1hey: blue ish skin ailoveyoom: Mommynthara hikukomoru: Are you talking about my wife
drewsni: Oh I see now gamerbath: think about how good 4o would be quickly sketching out hyper-realistic storyboards for movies, especially animated ones. I wonder how much economic value there's there st.sioux: oof it asks you to verify your organization and you need a government id to do that trojan09205: weird. i couldnt hit the veo rest endpoint and the python sdk is saying its not a supported model at the v1beta endpoints. but it works for me in AI studio trojan09205: Panning wide shot of fish with sunglasses sunbathing in monaco trojan09205: quality is top notch gotta give it to them trojan09205: lol spicy.lemonade: Slow week literallyvarane: It’s SUPER Ballpark don’t overthink it lol. I’m sure it’s marginally off, but not off by OOMs. trent_k: i did it trent_k: i wanted that sweet sweet o3 trent_k: inject it right into my veins trent_k: boof it zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1915098223082873015 <@1152183706849644615> <@312370916820779040> epoch reading chats here fs st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821 gamerbath: that's it? If it's just 2.5x a year then how are we increasing compute by many OOM in just a few years? ldj: Imagine AGI/ASI systems start building out their own tech tree of computational and robotics tech interlinked with eachother so they can manage their own compute seperate from the human grid, and then they start having competing factions with each other (some of the factions pro human, and inevitably some of the factions anti-human) and they camouflage their existence as everyday human machinery such as cars and truck and planes. Wait a second that's ||Transformers <:thinkies:872847213657735239> || literallyvarane: This doesn’t mean much to me tbh literallyvarane: literallyvarane: zonchao: <@1068159407671754824> head janny got got https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1915103181488398653 trent_k: did you hear about what happened to Ruben Sim's child safety project zonchao: no gamerbath: why trent_k: he made a bot that auto-banned anyone who was found to be in "erotic" Roblox RP servers trent_k: and the bot got banned for "targeting vulnerable minorities" or something like that trent_k: so like, if you ran a child-safe discord server about roblox, you could use the bot to keep people out who jack off to roblox zonchao: lmaooo trent_k: fucking insanity literallyvarane: I think it’s literally referring to single-site compute clusters, and models are already moving past single-site training. literallyvarane: This is UNBELIEVABLY cursed literallyvarane: I never even considered such a server could exist literallyvarane: Every day we stray further from God’s light. trent_k: oh, I've never showed it to you trent_k: oh man trent_k: I'm gonna fuck your whole day up with this one trent_k: <@704566357743632404> https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1242874681061544098 check this out, data science project I did with ruben sim where I scraped and classified a ton of roblox data clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1915036980015923592 ldj: The one's that try to decieve humans for nefarious goals should probably be named something like... Decepticons. And for the ones that don't.... we can't be 100% sure of their intentions, so we should just name them something very neutral and descriptive, such as... autobot zonchao: farts???
spicy.lemonade: o3 still got like 70% spicy.lemonade: low power spicy.lemonade: which is still above human callmepyro: The screenshot linked above shows human benchmark at 80% thedon7075: arc hasnt been killed. o3 only scored 4% on arc-2 callmepyro: That screenshot is referencing ARC-AGI-1 spicy.lemonade: "Every ARC-AGI task has been human-verified by at least 2 STEM professionals. Not all humans can solve all tasks, but all tasks can be solved by humans." spicy.lemonade: they get~ 76% spicy.lemonade: asctual humans callmepyro: Nice spicy.lemonade: that did public set spicy.lemonade: get ~60 spicy.lemonade: arc1 was spicy.lemonade: by that logic you can keep making harder benchmarks and claim you werent killed spicy.lemonade: ngl 70% on arc2 is probably enough for agi callmepyro: I think I would consider ARC-AGI-1 killed when you can do it with a model that can answer those questions with the same ease that it answers GPQA questions. callmepyro: callmepyro: o3 low required 33M tokens and 6 samples per problem, costing $200 callmepyro: If o4 can just one-shot it for a few bucks per task, ARC-AGI-1 is dead spicy.lemonade: why lol spicy.lemonade: simply just improve inference callmepyro: Because otherwise it's not a system I can use spicy.lemonade: on gpu callmepyro: so simple 🙂 spicy.lemonade: thats what i mean spicy.lemonade: i dont think thats a conscern spicy.lemonade: or much a model limit thedon7075: we are so back spicy.lemonade: theres 2 axis here spicy.lemonade: human panel are from top universities btw lol spicy.lemonade: actual score is 60% spicy.lemonade: callmepyro: In order to reach the level of compute I'm talking about to 'solve' ARC-AGI-1, you would have to scale inference by 500x, lol. At moores law rate thats like 20 years callmepyro: If your strat to 'kill' ARG-AGI is to wait 20 years... I dunno what to tell you thedon7075: and o3 only scores 4% spicy.lemonade: not really callmepyro: Yes really thedon7075: looks like chollet underestimated the models with arc-1. this is the real deal now spicy.lemonade: I dont think token generation is as big of an issue ldj: no they said there is uber drivers and single moms included in the humans