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spicy.lemonade:
a1c4p0ne: move 37
spicy.lemonade: new google model made this
spicy.lemonade: WTF
fractalcomputer: Your point being?
spicy.lemonade: google is about to drop sota again
a1c4p0ne: 🤷♂️
a1c4p0ne: better than 2.5?
spicy.lemonade: yes
a1c4p0ne: what is it called
spicy.lemonade: dragontail
a1c4p0ne: nice name
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be the last pure model that we use via chat interface
ldj: Hi
spicy.lemonade: arc 3 tests agency and more nuanced reasoning at once
spicy.lemonade: i think the model that saturates arc3 will be agi
spicy.lemonade: arc3 looks to be a very good agi test
spicy.lemonade: like youre plopped into a random game and you have to learn the rules and actions to take
.wolfnacht:
gamerbath: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: thats crazy
.wolfnacht: u know i searched "dragon tail" on gifs here and then decided not to send any.
okbut: COO's stock sells btw
a1c4p0ne: send it and @ fractal
fractalcomputer: I hope not.
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: he's always listening
a1c4p0ne: he sees everything
.wolfnacht: idk a shit abt stock market....i guess i need to learn it fast, before it's too late
fractalcomputer: He says he will never die.
_cloudost:
okbut: In the full picture he scheduled these sales as far back as last year
Unfortunately the news caught up by then
fractalcomputer: "*His feet are light and nimble. He never sleeps. He says that he will never die. He dances in light and in shadow and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.*"
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: WOW
spicy.lemonade: optimus alpha
_cloudost: OpenAI never ceases to cook
.wolfnacht: so he's losing everyone's trust investors and market ?
.wolfnacht: well, that's good
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retrerox: idk
retrerox: I should ask chat gpt what are their pronouns?
archon.e: Good and bad are relative
retrerox: There is gonna be people wanting human art like there is still people wanting traditional art
alejandrozarzuelo: AI has goals and tools to accomplish them, just as we do
couldnt you say we do what biology tells us to do?
at this point you get into free will theory
hikukomoru: Bro stop bringing up the dictionary for every word
fuhulootogan: congrats you're a moral relativist
fuhulootogan: no
alejandrozarzuelo: I just want most artist to lose their jobs, if a few remain doing the little art people are willing to pay because its human made its ok
fuhulootogan: lol
hikukomoru: Define "lol"
retrerox: "living out lungs"
alejandrozarzuelo: dont let perfect be the enemy of good, 99% artist unemployment is 99% as good as 100%
st.sioux: but what is a lung if not a construct of our mind?
archon.e: Jobs won’t be there. Money will be a thing of the past
archon.e: I’ve been recently watching the orville
archon.e: So much relate
fuhulootogan: i ask for the definition to be on the same page as my interlocutor to prevent any confusion
archon.e: To what’s going to happen
fuhulootogan: nay nay
archon.e: Replicators will be common place
alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully we wont need physical bodies when we merge with the ASI
archon.e: Exploration of the universe will be the last frontier for humanity. I hope I can stay alive for that
archon.e: Yeah merging with ai is an option
fuhulootogan: i feel like this is becoming boring
fuhulootogan: i pull the white flag 🏳️
alejandrozarzuelo: its not a competition
fuhulootogan: i know
fuhulootogan: it isn't
archon.e: But without bodies will we still have wants?
fuhulootogan: "white flag" means i give up
archon.e: Will an ai system that becomes conscious have wants?
alejandrozarzuelo: its just that you need to realize that unless you EXCLUSIVELY require biology, AI is indeed an intelligence with all that comes from it
archon.e: Consciousness is so easy for nature
archon.e: Hopefully some day we will be able to replicate it
archon.e: We can create an improved version of ourself in our image
fuhulootogan: no
fuhulootogan: what do you mean by that
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case <@1212375743863066645> its ok if you dont wan to call AI art as art, what matters is the material reality, which hopefully will unemploy almost all artists
dont call it art, the replacement and elimination of their jobs is independent on how you choose to call it
fuhulootogan: AI is artificial intelligence
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establishedyoungman: Anyone know how to run hugging face llm on local enviroments
I wanna use an image generator
aero447: Guys.
aero447:
aero447: How good is 4b really.
spicy.lemonade: I predict each year
spicy.lemonade: we have a new paradigm shift
spicy.lemonade: late 2023 to late 2024 was multimodality
spicy.lemonade: late 2024 to late 2025 is reasoners
spicy.lemonade: and ofc late 2022 to late 2023 was text generation
spicy.lemonade: late 2025 to late 2026? maybe streamers or something else new
zoermena: The era of experience
st.sioux: download lmstudio its pretty straightforward
st.sioux: idk if it does images tho
establishedyoungman: I can run the model via that though?
metaldragon01: I'll be disappointed if no avatars by this time
st.sioux: idk honestly i use stablediffusion webui for images
st.sioux: look up automatic1111 on github
establishedyoungman: I did but when I open it says I have to downgrade my version of python
establishedyoungman: is that a simple process <@1316552597829586955>
st.sioux: ask gpt it will be more useful than me
establishedyoungman: Ok just such a pain it isnt compatiable with most recent version of python
establishedyoungman: lol
establishedyoungman: ofc..
establishedyoungman: maybe waiting for a space is a better solution
spicy.lemonade: we can make avatars today
spicy.lemonade: no one will use
joaoluz19: Guys nothing happens wtf
joaoluz19: It's over for singularity
metaldragon01: Not high enough quality yet
metaldragon01: And not low enough cost
st.sioux: ive seen them used in shitty chinese product ads
metaldragon01: Companions are absolutely the product of the future
metaldragon01: The voice will need a face, personality, and maybe even a life outside of its users
joaoluz19: Now I am feeling the AGI
metaldragon01: Everyone is scared to really push voice but it's coming one way or another
metaldragon01: Market gets what it wants
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 native can make fake ids:
spicy.lemonade: much better than 4o native image gen
spicy.lemonade: more realistic
spicy.lemonade: lol
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hikukomoru: HELLO KITTY KRATOS
wellmeaningalien: some people would already consider o1 AGI in some regards
spicy.lemonade: the brush strokes
spicy.lemonade: are so clean
wellmeaningalien: 2 more generations i dont doubt it
sarik0497: Can you make one of the Lego City that was ALWAYS shown on TV a few years back?
hikukomoru: Why
_wwwwww: I don't remember
spicy.lemonade: need new model
spicy.lemonade: o3 full when
hikukomoru: Dopamine receptors fried 🥀
spicy.lemonade: scratch that
spicy.lemonade: o4
hikukomoru: Scratch that
AGI
sarik0497: I don’t see GPT 7 coming out until at least 2028-2029 at the earliest
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: This goes hard asf
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: would be so cool if it got the colors right
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: Loll
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: warning
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> <@430269783112548362> youre gonna love this one
_wwwwww: singularity is now
wellmeaningalien: NSFW
_wwwwww: CUTE
_wwwwww: I wish to be an anime girl, i wish anime was real
sarik0497: Bro, is that generated? Unreal
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
_wwwwww: c mon
hikukomoru: "I wish to be an anime girl"
_wwwwww: yes
hey1_1hey: Hes just like me fr
_wwwwww: i need fucking money
spicy.lemonade: Rip r/ufo
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aero447: 295k.
aero447: Lmfao.
futurist_wizard: I trust demis's timelines tbh
spicy.lemonade: 50/50 2030?
futurist_wizard: About
spicy.lemonade: demis timeline is just kurzweil but late
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think the date of '29 is accurate because of kurzweil, i do think that '30 is a reasonable estimate
memlaswaif: we either get it by 2030 or it stagnates to the 50s imo
ailoveyoom: Hey at least they used a funny meme this time 🥺 (no death threats 🥰)
alejandrozarzuelo: what are those
spicy.lemonade: i dont think thats how its gonna work
spicy.lemonade: lol
memlaswaif: why
spicy.lemonade: we could simply be off by a year
spicy.lemonade: who knows
futurist_wizard: I believe he said its 5/5+ 2030 maybe a 50% chance
hikukomoru: Damn I'll be an old hag by then
alejandrozarzuelo: 5/5+??
alejandrozarzuelo: what is that
futurist_wizard: YEARS
alejandrozarzuelo: ahh
memlaswaif: Yeah I mean add a year or 2 to 2030 if u want
alejandrozarzuelo: a 50% chance of 2030 is only slightly more pessimistic than I am
futurist_wizard: I'll be more precise with you next, i forgor the autism 🥺 😔
spicy.lemonade: even then if we dont get agi we will have top tier swe and math systems that can work agentically. which will speed up research on its own
spicy.lemonade: feels inevitable that itl be soon
fractalcomputer: People are always so prone to discuss their specific prediction dates but are always equally disinterested in discussing what will come afterwards; surely if you're that confident in your own predictive capabilities, you should have a thing or two to say about the immediate aftermath.
fractalcomputer: As always, feelings dictate the truth.
futurist_wizard: On what basis does your timeline even matter though, i just parrot timelines from experts
wellmeaningalien: because who fookin knows?
joaoluz19: Predicting singularity timelines or things like RSI has nothing to do with predicting the world after
futurist_wizard: Or if its just a personal gut feeling
spicy.lemonade: after agi, nothing changes the first year. people fuck around a bit. openAI devlops ASI in house. they start solving problems and slowy announce breakthroughs drip by drip
futurist_wizard: Then yea
joaoluz19: It's called singularity for a reason
memlaswaif: top tier swe is agi to me <a:bcaShrug1:470733960771534854>
memlaswaif: If it starts making a profit it's agi
alejandrozarzuelo: ah i do have a thing or two to say
i think we will see mass unemployment and revolution right after
except in China as they will be already prepared because their political system is tailor made to this very event
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fuhulootogan: we are in idiocracy
archon.e: But currently, I am kinda fat
alejandrozarzuelo: how do you not recognize the arc de triomphe
fractalcomputer: The only thing in life that makes me genuinely happy is seeing applied mathematicians suffer immensely for their many sins.
alejandrozarzuelo: dont be
fuhulootogan: now is an amazing time to be "smart"
archon.e: I was working out a lot and then got sick
archon.e: got GERD
fuhulootogan: why
alejandrozarzuelo: getting sick is the best way to lose weight
I'd know
fractalcomputer: If a benevolent God existed, he would make sure that applied mathematicians (especially physicists) burn in the deepest pits of hell.
hikukomoru: What
fuhulootogan: damn
hikukomoru: Why are you screaming at me
st.sioux: its a good time to be smart and take advantage of stupid people
fuhulootogan: yes
archon.e: I wish the suffering of people end
archon.e: and maybe we can also end the suffering of animals
fractalcomputer: Because eternal punishment is the only just reward for such stupidity and ignorance.
alejandrozarzuelo: the arc de triomphe is the second mosr famous thing in paris, how can you possibly not know about it
ailoveyoom: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
fuhulootogan: you can wish but can you execute?
inferno0879: Have you read "The last answer"?
fuhulootogan: can you at least try?
fractalcomputer: By Asimov? Yes.
hikukomoru: Idk bruh
Looks like some random monument
archon.e: I love that work
inferno0879: It makes a surprising amount of sense to me for an omnipotent being to think like that
inferno0879: am I schizo for thinking that?
fractalcomputer: Yes, this is filthy fetish posting. I receive orgasmic pleasure from seeing applied mathematicians suffer the most intolerable punishments.
fuhulootogan: arc de triomphe don't even look allat
fuhulootogan: its like a banana taped to a wall but has an extremely rich and fabulous history behind it
fractalcomputer: To think like how?
alejandrozarzuelo:
inferno0879: The limitation of unlimited knowledge
hikukomoru: It looks extremely boring
fuhulootogan: exactly
archon.e: But the ending was kinda weird. || It just reverses entropy ||
a1c4p0ne:
fractalcomputer: I do not personally know anyone as *stupid* and as *evil* enough as to be interested in applied mathematics like those stulted physicists or ignorant PDE solvers.
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wellmeaningalien: tu sais parfois j'entends l'italien et ça me parais beaucoup comme le français
wellmeaningalien: t'as pas compris la blague?
hey1_1hey: Close
hey1_1hey: Drugs
fractalcomputer: Je ne blague pas.
wellmeaningalien: bah bon c'est pas grave tu vas comprendre quand les mechants chatons vont venir
futurist_wizard: I got diagnosed at 4, im legit as they come
wellmeaningalien: c'est clair tu sais
hikukomoru: Now I can't answer anymore lol
Limited vocab
But yeah, I feel the same way about spanish
_cloudost: WGERE ID VEO 2?
hey1_1hey: This is the french channel ty
_cloudost: Veo 2
wellmeaningalien: well of course duh your language is just a fake language its just spanish with a trench coat
_cloudost: Velo
futurist_wizard: Stop being a degen
fractalcomputer: On peut rester gaiement dans cette compréhension mutuelle.
hey1_1hey: Im not
hikukomoru: parler français ou gtfo
.wolfnacht: i was more comfy with eng
wellmeaningalien: peut être toi tu peux etre gay puis moi je vais voir
hey1_1hey: I unirocnally had a massive thing for drugs a while back. I researched a bunch about them, dosage, how they were synthesised, what makes them deadly, classes etc etc
hey1_1hey: I am defo on a watchlist after that stiny
wellmeaningalien: kindest britoid ever
hikukomoru: I feel like portuguese people can easily understand other latin languages
But others can't understand ours at all
futurist_wizard: Do you take any
wellmeaningalien: 🤮 🇬🇧 👎
.wolfnacht: britard*
hey1_1hey: No
hey1_1hey: I like to keep my brain in tact for the most part
wellmeaningalien: so i hear but i think like french is so distant from everything else nobody can fucking understand us lol
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pakistan-gif-8238298
hey1_1hey: I already have enough debuffs
_cloudost: 🐦⬛
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: French classes were such a pain in the ass
I switched to Spanish because it was so much easier, especially the grammar compared to french
fractalcomputer: C'est assez intéressant que les jeunes générations francophones hésitent à utiliser des mots comme gaieté ou n'importe quelle de ses variations dans le dictionnaire à cause d'influence anglophone.
wellmeaningalien: actually spanish was pretty easy its just like the same grammatical rule but you swap the letters out
wellmeaningalien: same conjugation
hikukomoru: Doesn't really look like it's working
wellmeaningalien: almost same vocab
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sieventer: And do you feel fine like that? '-'
alejandrozarzuelo: i do sleep a lot
alejandrozarzuelo: like 8-10h
alejandrozarzuelo: as long as you sleep the appropiate amount your body needs, its not THAT important when you sleep
sieventer: But, 8-10h in portions or 8-10h in a row?
alejandrozarzuelo: its holy week, so these last few days ive slept like 12h daily
alejandrozarzuelo: in portions the largest being like 6h usually
sieventer: Okay :]
alejandrozarzuelo: if left to my own devices i would sleep like this all day, 12h ovreall with 6h main sleep and many naps
alejandrozarzuelo: society doesnt let me tho
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
sieventer: "if left to my own devices"? No entiendo '-'
sieventer: You mean like...
alejandrozarzuelo: left to someones own devices means, if they had the complete power to decide by themselves
sieventer: ooooooooooooh
sieventer: Okay, I understand
spicy.lemonade: https://chatgpt.com/share/6802a638-75b8-8007-9e1d-119202fcfd64
spicy.lemonade: it solved with pure vision
spicy.lemonade:
sieventer: Someday... post-scarcity ASI economy, society will allow you do that, cities will live 24/7, the concept of day/night won't make sense anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully by then we will all be in the hivemind
sieventer: No more political debates <3
sieventer: Universal agreement <3
spicy.lemonade:
sieventer: I'm sorry to say, but the fact that we get impressed by these silly examples, means how useless is o3 xD
sieventer: BUT
sieventer: Well...
sieventer: I guess... it's better than GPT-4 from 2023
otub: images in the CoT is a step forward tho
drewsni: but what if no other model can do it
drewsni: why is it not impressive
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: it wasnt able to do this until o3
sieventer: Relatively speaking, is impressive. The problem is that pragmatically speaking, usually it's not.
Like, the average o3 example is super simple stuff, like this maze, or a ball bouncing inside of a container
Yes, it's the expected progress. But, idk, for me these examples are getting a bit tiring. "oh look at this! it can solve a basic logic riddle!"
I understand, I understand, it's the fact is made by AI. But one thing doesn't cancel the other, it's subjetive after all
spicy.lemonade: no its not
spicy.lemonade: thats just a example i can post on discord easily
spicy.lemonade: if you want to see full projects made with o3 go on twitter
sieventer: Okay ·-·
sieventer: https://x.com/lukeprog/status/1912592191282712777
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_3sphere: Seems like it didn't get that it's supposed to be Teto
spicy.lemonade: i didnt say anything about teto
spicy.lemonade: just said redraw
_3sphere: Hm yeah, it's not obvious from the image
_3sphere: Since the whole reason I made it is that I thought Teto's hair might look funny in zero gravity
fractalcomputer: Could you not try to post pseudo-pornographic images for one second?
artemisfowl887394: She's fully clothed
_3sphere: Ok let's try again
>>>
Redo this drawing of Teto in space to look like a normal anime image. The proportions are slightly off, correct them too.
_3sphere: maybe
_3sphere: <@471334973379706900>
spicy.lemonade: ok
ailoveyoom: Sometimes this tendency works against its advantage, eg when I give a character ref image and ask Flash to generate this char in another situation, it basically just pasted the image over photoshop-like lol
_3sphere: Still, makes diffusion look useless
_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/ArtistHate/s/NzVDChIDm9 what are these retas... they all dont realize OP doesnt have access to the native OpenAI image generator......
spicy.lemonade:
_3sphere: wow
_3sphere: That's bettee
_cloudost: r/artisthate is such a low iq sub
_3sphere: But it broke the hair
_3sphere: smh
gamerbath: ah yes
spicy.lemonade: they will learn
_cloudost: so dumb
clevermoniker: so... these people will panic when it can finally make fingers every time
spicy.lemonade: soon enough
_3sphere: Can we try one more spicy
spicy.lemonade: ok
_cloudost: No more sympathy for digital artists
_3sphere: >>> Redo this drawing of Teto in space to look like a normal anime image. The proportions are slightly off, correct them too. The hair is supposed to be like that, it's floating in zero gravity.
_cloudost: they betrayed us
joaoluz19: It's over
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: One day they will be charged with treason
_3sphere: Madness
_3sphere: Hands are solved
joaoluz19: Fractal when a new technology for gooners emerge
_cloudost: is image generation infinite?
spicy.lemonade: yes
gamerbath: i'm gonna comment this image if you don't mind, just to see how people cope
_cloudost: theres no limit?
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frittata: Sus
joaoluz19: I fell for that shit too lol
frittata: The problem is it incorporates the feedback of the heaviest users of AI disproportionately
frittata: It’s an echo chamber
joaoluz19: But Apple not having something like Sesame to show says a lot about how it only flies on Jobs' legacy.
st.sioux: macbooks are so good tho
destrucules: It's so much worse actually
destrucules: It's not "quirky tech bros are weird"
joaoluz19: And in a sense iPhones too, but they're just the Nth iteration of what was once something totally revolutionary.
spicy.lemonade: theres genuinly no issues with that image. i wonder how an artist would nitpick
destrucules: It's "as it is now, AI is 'controlled' by financial and political incentives, which everyone agrees are misaligned with and disinterested in human welfare"
destrucules: This is the real doom scenario
destrucules: 1. Solve control problem
2. Employee paid to prompt AI "make money at all costs nothing else matters"
3. AI kills everyone
st.sioux: a lot of problems could be solved by just ending humanity
zonchao: soul
destrucules: Companies do not care about humans
destrucules: Companies are not humans
destrucules: If we solve the control problem, everyone is dead
destrucules: It's that simple
zonchao: https://x.com/kimberlywtan/status/1907169385770537344? yea, they are disgusting
joaoluz19: I think that too, better wait the AGI Jesus
joaoluz19: Sesame is doomed too, censorship right from the start while competing with the big players is business suicide
metaldragon01: they are un talks for $200 mil in funding. investors get what they want
wellmeaningalien: Bro
wellmeaningalien: My normie non ai friend just told me he talks to sesame to practice sometimes
wellmeaningalien: I was so shocked
wellmeaningalien: Openai def missing out by releasing better voice mode
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: W
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: Who
joaoluz19: Maybe they could become an openAI, anything less in the long run is being swallowed up by big companies or China.
joaoluz19: It's understandable as long as they launch smarter models. Or in their case, just launch "cool" things and serve the 400 million users that others don't have.
metaldragon01: I wouldn't be so sure. We havent seen anything close to them yet and i suspect it may be at least a few months before we do. I dont think Meta voice on llama 4 will do it but its the best candidate resleasing soon.
metaldragon01: openai recently updated their voice models. minor update but noticeable
spicy.lemonade: Some animator
joaoluz19: Yes, they have gained an extraordinary advantage, which is why I talked about the problem of maintaining that in a few years before Google or OpenAI overtakes them.
joaoluz19: openAI hasn't (yet) destroyed midjourney, but it's already a huge concern for them
zonchao: is this the new "this is how you would look like if you were black or chinese" <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: yes
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hey1_1hey: That fox really giving me "I kiss the homies good night but it's ok because it's not that but at night thinks about why they are a horrible person" vibes
futurist_wizard: Okay, is your pfp, not you but the pfp a top or bottom, pick one
oooooooooog: ALEJANDRO WHY DID YOU BECOME WOKE
hey1_1hey: He always was
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: What
oooooooooog: GET THAT ARNOLD THE ARDVARK PFP AWAY FR I CANT TAKE IT
futurist_wizard: Its obvious
hikukomoru: You haven't been the same ever since you returned from that orgy...
hikukomoru: I miss the old Alejandro
technocake.: zorra
hey1_1hey: 💀
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
alejandrozarzuelo: OK you definitely don't know Spanish
hey1_1hey: The singulitards got him
technocake.: doesn't it mean fox in spanish?
alejandrozarzuelo: Zarzu is an abbreviation of Zarzuelo, my surname, that's what my friends call me
It means blackberry
alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fennec
hikukomoru: Can I call you berry 💖
hey1_1hey: addressing your friends by last time is psychotic
futurist_wizard: Generated from a minecraft screenshot
hikukomoru: My little berry boo
hey1_1hey: I only call one person by their last name and it's to make fun of them
alejandrozarzuelo: That's why it's a diminutive of my surname
oooooooooog: SEND THE MINECRAFT SCREENSHOT
technocake.: sweden intensifies
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: HEY THATS PRETTY GOOD
jonvi_1: is that ai?
futurist_wizard: No
hikukomoru: Yeah 4o remade minecraft from scratch
hey1_1hey: Vibe coded obc
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean sure
alejandrozarzuelo: You can call me however you want
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't care
alejandrozarzuelo: (as long as it isn't sexual or offensive )
hikukomoru: Nvm
hikukomoru: I was typing smth
hey1_1hey: Can I call you "farming" then
futurist_wizard: Alejandro's pfp is hilarious
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himekokatagiri: we're going drag racing
himekokatagiri: I'm gonna get those turbo 63 olds
himekokatagiri: idk him
himekokatagiri: hehehe
himekokatagiri: I'll teach him fun man
himekokatagiri: doing the quarter mile
zoermena: I have little knowledge of cars to be honest
himekokatagiri: as fast as possible
himekokatagiri: It's simple
himekokatagiri: It's a straight line
himekokatagiri: the fastest guy wins
himekokatagiri: Of course there's a technique
himekokatagiri: And you gotta tune your car right
zoermena: I’m so tired lol, this will be the most shit day I’ll have for some time, once it’s over everything should be ok
himekokatagiri: Why
zoermena: I made an embarrassment of myself with boomers and will have to redo some work
_cloudost:
trent_k:
zoermena: And who knows which other challenges I’ll face today
trent_k: looks like it's probably gemini based on the 1m context, right?
joaoluz19: Give a common example
hikukomoru: What do you do
zoermena: Didn’t print some papers right
fractalcomputer: Many of us would agree that objects—such as tables and apples etc.—exist. But this idea of discrete things existing in the universe is untenable and largely contrived; where does the table end and the air start? Where does the neutron star, connected to my heart by distant and feeble gravitational forces, begin and end?
zoermena: I used to questions this things when I was younger, it made me highly depressed and anxious
joaoluz19: Hmmm I see, personally I like to see things more from the engineering side, computer vision for example where you need to statistically treat the contour of the object but I appreciate your vision
fractalcomputer: Humans have an amazing aptitude for behaving as if certain things existed. A trite example would be money; but all this would only suggest an unacceptable conclusion, viz. that existence as such is only really a kind of social convention; but the nature of that convention is entirely up in the air and mysterious.
joaoluz19: To build things like robots that capture solids on Mars we need to define its space and identity very well.
fractalcomputer: I actually read Mccarthy's Stella Maris yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that it dealt with rather similar issues.
joaoluz19: I agree
retrerox: So how are we doing today?
zoermena: Apparently open ai is going to ship
retrerox: Are we HYPE or are we down?
retrerox: is that good or bad?
zoermena: I haven’t really all of the context
retrerox: english is not my main language so i dont know what u mean with that
zoermena: I meant to write read my b
zoermena: Also not my first language but I’m tired af
retrerox: how is your sleeping schedule?
zoermena: No idea
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.histic: i got the better version cooking up
hey1_1hey: Cant wait to see
hey1_1hey: Servers are melting aperntly
hey1_1hey: I mean I am not supprised
.histic: bruh, mine froze on the creation of it
.histic: it has been like 3 minutes
ldj: I think it may be based on amount of pixels basically yea
ldj: but that doesn't really tell you much about the actual cost, it just tells you the cost difference between larger and smaller images
conservatively, I think it'll be atleast 5X more expensive per pixel, compared to the input cost per pixel
hey1_1hey: I am getting blue balled by 4o
trent_k:
trent_k: honestly worth every penny
.histic: 🥵 damn 4o created a masterpiece
.histic: i got to make two versions tho
hganhhh: man i wanna fuck elon, really just pound his ass, make it dissapear. Then, make out with him with those gorgeous lips mmwmmmmma so goood ooooeeeee lalalala fucking beautiful man i love him
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>hi
.histic: https://x.com/emanuelsa/status/1905256978147921994
of course you get these type of people
hganhhh: do you liek cats
.histic: no, i'm a dog person.
hganhhh: no you arent
.histic: joking, they're both mid. i'm a no animal person.
hganhhh: fuck your
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hganhhh: i love ai
hganhhh: i wanna make a ai video of elon sucking on a watermelon that would be interesting to watch
hey1_1hey: Ayyy big tony my boy
hganhhh: sup
hey1_1hey: Hows the wife keepin
hganhhh: long time no see
hganhhh: i dont have a wife
hey1_1hey: Yeah you do dont lie
hikukomoru: <@1056739182338388108> Hey babe 🫦 🫦
hey1_1hey: You like this art that got generated
hganhhh: sup
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>smash or pass
hey1_1hey: Well its me but women so
hikukomoru: Why are there skulls 🙏
hikukomoru: In the background
.0xunkn0wn: smash
.0xunkn0wn: WAIT
hey1_1hey: He knows it
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spicy.lemonade: No promoting
spicy.lemonade: Like nfts
spicy.lemonade: But there's a human in the mix
brain4brain: Of exist continuously
spicy.lemonade: Lol artists genuinely thought the ai bubble was like nft
spicy.lemonade: Did nft even last a yesr
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe? in my math department the closer you get to pure math the more excited people are about being replaced, the further you get the more threatened people feel
jonvi_1: https://x.com/pjaccetturo/status/1905151190872309907?s=46
brain4brain: People who say this are fucking annoying, they are coping
anathemaofmankind: If they were right about souls then AI detection shouldn't be a problem
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe because we are a bunch of autists who drool at the idea of having centuries of mathematics being discivered every year
alejandrozarzuelo: I swear i am not autistic this is a joke
anathemaofmankind: Just find the soul in the AI Art
brain4brain: Being in this server already mean you’re autistic
brain4brain: Everybody here is
hikukomoru: Really not beating the autist allegations
anathemaofmankind: I can confirm as another autist
anathemaofmankind: At least we are all high functioning
spicy.lemonade: I LOVE GENERATING SLOP
_cloudost: he should have used Vidu its better at making 2d animation
futurist_wizard: You just do it half way, continue to exist with your brain but have some device that sends custom electrical signals to your neural cortex maybe like visual or audible and then confirm that you can see your own eyesight and whatever the machine is generating through your mind simultaneously
jonvi_1: Yeah it’s still a cool demo of what we can do now tho
jonvi_1: Very cool
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
alejandrozarzuelo: its weird
alejandrozarzuelo: but the CS student community is weirdly anti AI
futurist_wizard: Money
jonvi_1: Well seems a bit obvious?
futurist_wizard: Cs students want that 100k
futurist_wizard: Salary
alejandrozarzuelo: shouldnt they be pro AI?
alejandrozarzuelo: you know
jonvi_1: They don’t want to feel like what they’re doing is for nothings
alejandrozarzuelo: they are the ones making it happening
alejandrozarzuelo: alongside mathematicians
jonvi_1: The curriculum does not do anything related to ai
jonvi_1: (I’m a cs undergrad)
jonvi_1: We have required courses on Java Swing
alejandrozarzuelo: but you NEED to be a CS or math major to be working in AI
jonvi_1: From like 2008
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fractalcomputer: Perhaps so.
trojan09205: Ty 🫶
zonchao: <:cute:1291960720895905814>
okbut: My dating app is Google Scholar
futurist_wizard: Good pupper
hikukomoru: Love when people share pics and videos of their pets
trojan09205: I also met an interesting girl there and got her number
Pup is a chick magnet lol
zoermena: When I walk my dog that never happens
futurist_wizard: Woman update
fractalcomputer: I prefer uploaded video lectures.
trojan09205: Skill issue
trojan09205: Jk haha
hikukomoru: They are intimidated
zonchao: do you have a cupcake?
zoermena:
futurist_wizard:
okbut: Too weak on the numbers to overhead ratio man
alejandrozarzuelo: I think love is the feeling of being able to trust someone so much, that you are willing to let your life in their hands
It's the feeling of having such a connection that makes you see them as the person who you can take all your worries, and the person you want to cherish all your joys
It's a bond about the ability to face the world with that person, the bond that makes you understand each other, even in the things you don't really understand about yourself
To be in love with someone is to have this deep sense of them being the person you want your existence to melt with, because you see everything better with them
futurist_wizard: That's quite intense
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/teehee-doggo-pitbull-cutie-dog-gif-15868302
alejandrozarzuelo: Love is an intense feeling isn't it?
futurist_wizard: I am too guarded to feel that way about a relationship
hikukomoru: One of the rare times I am forced to agree with you
alejandrozarzuelo: What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more
trojan09205: I agree but it also lends you to the tail end of it which is heartbreaking when those expectations fall through
alejandrozarzuelo: I have never experienced that fortunately
alejandrozarzuelo: My bf became my closest friend
trojan09205: Im going through that now. Divorcing after almost 10 years
futurist_wizard: My first three relationships were very hurtful to me and now I'm guarded forever
alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly I only had a LTR, and it ended the best way it could have, I think lovers to bffs is the best way to end a relationship
trojan09205: Love is most definitely real
alejandrozarzuelo: My relationship actually improved, when you let go the need to maintain that level of relationship with someone which is emotionally very taxing, and you keep the best parts you always loved about that person, it makes a very strong friendship
trojan09205: Just requires a lot of maturity and constant work to nurture it and preserve it
alejandrozarzuelo: Another close friend of mine who is a bit older than me, had 3 relationships before his current one and he always has gotten very well with them
So, in my life the people close to me have had very good endings of relationships
Except my sister
trojan09205: Sometimes you cant control the other person deciding to end things in flames <@688807313015963693>
alejandrozarzuelo: True
trojan09205: People are unpredictable ultimately
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i consider myself lucky on this case
trojan09205: Word count your blessings
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh well, hopefully soon I'll be far far away from home and I will be able to love again
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metaldragon01: the o5 level model should get human level on simple bench and by most accounts i think people will accept its agi
metaldragon01: could take 8 months for that could take a year or more
.coldcall: Fast takeoff here we come
spacetimetsunami: Automation will be tough as an American
spacetimetsunami: No UBI for us.
metaldragon01: free tokens are the only ubi we are getting
metaldragon01: use them
spacetimetsunami: How will that help me with money lol
futurist_wizard: Generate some images of food
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304
spicy.lemonade: this is odd
spicy.lemonade: i can tell anytime a comic is geneated by 4o image
spicy.lemonade: now
spicy.lemonade: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
st.sioux: because of the font?
spicy.lemonade: i guess
spicy.lemonade: maybe
ldj: incremental jumps ≠ slow takeoff
.histic: filters on 4o seems less restrictive
spicy.lemonade: thought to image when
spicy.lemonade: VEO2 IS FAST ASF
spicy.lemonade: generated 8 second video in 3 seconds
spicy.lemonade: wtf
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> do you know what is the accuracy rate of humans in their field?
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@312370916820779040> did you make the app?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: the fuck
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: fuck you
spicy.lemonade: holy shit native image gen got worse
.histic: idk what you're on about
.histic: are you plus?
spicy.lemonade: yes
.histic: mine works perfectly
spicy.lemonade: 😭
.histic:
spicy.lemonade: damn
.histic: still pretty 2d
spicy.lemonade: cant get it to make realistic
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sweetievee__33649: thank you for spotting it though 👍
sweetievee__33649: we might get sora 2 👀
_cloudost:
zonchao: https://x.com/BigTechAlert/status/1906664037896605788? big?
spicy.lemonade: dont think so
spicy.lemonade: dev tools
technocake.: <@1356003171549315324> hi are you new here?
sweetievee__33649: i thought i heard an @ and then i saw you delete it. Thought i was going crazy then
realelonmuskx: we need to kill ai artist.
sweetievee__33649: so yeah i am new here hello 👋
sweetievee__33649: yeah i hate ai artists always making my lack of art skill look noticeable
technocake.: I just replied to a random message, I thought it better to just ping. Hi andd welcome!
sweetievee__33649: no worries honestly thought i got @ so i could begin the hazing ritual
sweetievee__33649: do i have to run the guantlet of ai troll questions or smth
technocake.: not to worry you will be hazed just by your exposure to the degenerates here
sweetievee__33649: oh ive already seen that 😭
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/ground-beef-grinder-gif-10187548
sweetievee__33649: someone was talking about smurf sex hierarchy
hikukomoru: Are you talking about me perchance
.wolfnacht: sounds interesting
technocake.: no all your fetishes are high taste I am assured
hikukomoru:
sweetievee__33649: it was something
sweetievee__33649: who are you
.wolfnacht: i didn't know smurfs got hedonistic paradise down there.
realelonmuskx: why.
hikukomoru: Local sex pest
sweetievee__33649: is this the part where i get hazed?
sweetievee__33649: there seems to be a few of those around here
sweetievee__33649: hello local sex pest though its nice to meet you
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: I am competing with <@430269783112548362> for the title of the biggest degenerate here
sweetievee__33649: thats like boderline suicide on reddit
sweetievee__33649: any others i should be aware of
.wolfnacht: i've already got around 2 warnings from fractal otherwise i would be corrupting everyone here. with my fetishes.
wellmeaningalien: ps6 solos u both but hes not very active now
sweetievee__33649: so is everyone here just gooners then?
hikukomoru: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: real artists when they have to feel 0.001% of the pain ai artists feel
wellmeaningalien: yup
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dr.banemortem: Exactly,he might used the ai for the script and then did the power point himself
technocake.: and this makes it likely he's full of shit or doesn't know what he's talking about
trojan09205: I mean you can ask an image AI generator to change the same base image with small changes
dr.banemortem: He is definitely full of shit but every once in a while he is telling the truth
technocake.: I think that's what he did, AI can def produce those images
trojan09205: Most normies have no idea what AI actually means/does beyond chatbots and random apps
dr.banemortem: I'm a curious and intrested normie he doesnt have a degree but he works as the IT guy where I work
popsiclejohnithan:
st.sioux: experience in IT does not necessarily translate to ai knowledge
technocake.: he might be an enthusiast
popsiclejohnithan:
trojan09205: I mean so yeah he could have just put together diff stuff and made that. A lot of developers play with AI
I think the problem is your trust in your friend lmao
trojan09205: I made these with AI like a year ago
https://youtu.be/wxAp7m_BdVM?si=DoSWUE41X3wX8wq_
st.sioux: i think its good that they're not using ai... it opens up more opportunities for us
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/qX-ZOJA4kXE?si=Ikxegq9lHTl_qHen
st.sioux: wtf is this lmao
trojan09205: Lmao was just messing around with stability video APi
st.sioux: people should start using ai to make money so they realize its useful
trojan09205: Lol we can compete with the AI agents who in turn use AI agents
.histic:
clevermoniker: Does anyone know another website that has something like Huggingface's spaces?
sarik0497: Honestly fairly human reaction.
futurist_wizard: O3 says 2027-2040 is likely date of AGI emerging
futurist_wizard: I did not clarify what agi even was so it might be worthless
himekokatagiri: o3 reads off reddit
himekokatagiri: probably reads the singularity polls
sarik0497: ChatGPT knows AGI to be highly revolutionary, so likely something AGI for many, and ASI for a few.
spicy.lemonade: 4o knows my Reddit account and posts
spicy.lemonade: Without searching
spicy.lemonade: Crazy
spicy.lemonade: I'm in the base model
sarik0497: You can ask it for a neutral and “no bullshit” estimation.
Unlike what a lot of people say, ChatGPT is not afraid of saying something is stupid if it is.
hikukomoru: >17k updoots
hikukomoru: Millennials are so cooked
himekokatagiri: komoru
himekokatagiri: you're our poster woman
himekokatagiri: you can convince people to use AI
himekokatagiri: use the komoru charm!
st.sioux: komoru is a 43 year old man
ailoveyoom: komoru is a 34 year old woman
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sekirow: very optimistic
futurist_wizard: Very
hikukomoru: Mhm
sekirow: and I wonder how computer can understand our abstraction
alejandrozarzuelo: As long as it can unemploy everyone, I could hardly care if it really understands or just pretends to
alejandrozarzuelo: I just care about ending Labor
sekirow: Yeh it's good enough if it can pretend to
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i can't possibly understand your timeline, as task performance is improving fast enough to be at worst in 2035
futurist_wizard: It's missing the most crucial element of understanding abstraction.. the soul 😇
alejandrozarzuelo: If it can simulate abstraction it's good enough for me
I don't care if a plane does not fly like ad bird does, I just want It to take me across the Atlantic
literallyvarane: I’ could still fairly easily see timelines where it’s well past 2035 the
sekirow: I dont expect everything going that smooth so
alejandrozarzuelo: It would require sub exponential growth, which could happen, sure
literallyvarane: What if we get AGI but it’s just wildly expensive to inference and we can’t reasonably produce the hardware to replace hundreds of millions of jobs.
literallyvarane: Etc
literallyvarane: Or just legal backlash to it lolol
futurist_wizard: It's almost impossible to imagine the outcome where it goes right, it'd all be otherworldly to us
hikukomoru: Stop talking like that
hikukomoru: It's creepy
literallyvarane: The question of full economic automation is as much a legislative question as it is a technical one.
sekirow: but it doesnt really matter to me since I have a good chance surviving up to 2050
futurist_wizard: Like what
hikukomoru: Emojis
Futurist Hill would never
hikukomoru: You fell off hard 🥀
futurist_wizard: I can't use emojis anymore..
futurist_wizard: 😞 literally over 😿
alejandrozarzuelo: As long as something happens... I am ok with it
I just dread the idea of humanity existing as it does today in 2100, extinction would at least be interesting
futurist_wizard: It'd be over for us at least
alejandrozarzuelo: Extinction by AI, not by cringe things like climate change
alejandrozarzuelo: OK gonna sleep
joaoluz19: The chad futurist hill vs the virgin clock fool
futurist_wizard: You know how unlucky that would be, our lifespans were 0.00..1% the potential but we were born just a smidge too early
sekirow: If you look at the history of AI, its usually not that smooth
hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦
alejandrozarzuelo: Think of how unlucky it is to be born in this century but in Gaza and you end up dying at 15 instead of 150000
futurist_wizard: Fucked up world we built, humans need to go
futurist_wizard: Please hivemind save us and stuff
zoermena: Stuff me
ldj: If anybody is curious of how I know OpenAI is planning an open source release for June <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: here:
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spicy.lemonade: What if
spicy.lemonade: We are actually just fomenting
spicy.lemonade: Fine tuning
spicy.lemonade: But the older we get the less deep we go
spicy.lemonade: Fine tuning is just training the last layers
spicy.lemonade: Not that deep
spicy.lemonade: But we learn more as humans when little
spicy.lemonade: More neuroplasticity
spicy.lemonade: Smaller brain
destrucules: I do genuinely think we should be looking for circuits inside LLMs that parallel neurotransmitter circuits in the human brain, so we can use activation steering to induce drug-like psychoactive states in the models. Not without their consent, ofc, but I want to trip sit a model so fuckin bad you have no idea
spicy.lemonade: So we can train deeper layers
destrucules: Finetuning is training the entire model
destrucules: Like, only training the upper layers is nonstandard
spicy.lemonade: No it’s only shifting the last layers
spicy.lemonade: This is highlited in several apis
spicy.lemonade: Training the whole model is too expensive
destrucules: That is not usually how finetuning works. There may be some APIs that serve that, but that's a nonstandard way of doing finetuning, and the term "finetuning" doesn't generally indicate that. Ask an LLM if you don't believe me
spicy.lemonade: Oh I just know that’s what they do for served LLMs
spicy.lemonade: But yeah fine tuning on its own means training whole model
spicy.lemonade: But not that readable for large models
spicy.lemonade: Feasible
destrucules: Ahh okay we're on the same page. Anyway I don't think humans freeze their parameters as we get older. I think it's more that our brains go from this hot noisy soup of random activity to this clean, ordered, sparse lattice of heavily refined concepts, each one occupying a deep local minimum in the free energy landscape, so it's harder to hallucinate, harder to wrangle a few happy accidental misfirings into the foundation for a new revelation. But that's also why we learn how to *be* creative, which is what entropy neurons do. We can dial up our brains' internal noise level. But the default level gets lower with time, and maintaining that fire from which creativity tendrils out becomes harder and harder.
destrucules: Also, as the volume of what we've learned increases, so too does the inertia of what we've learned. Fundamentally refactoring the whole graph based on some new signal takes vastly more cognitive effort. Not to mention, we tend to spend less cognitive effort as we get older, as we get more efficient, which is also *why* time starts to slip by faster and faster. We're literally less present in each moment, our brains doing less and less as we get better at doing what we do
spicy.lemonade: Tru
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/trap-next-door-trap-bot-blue-durag-durag-lil-bow-wow-gif-352513190420007294
bob082957: Will be the took 2 B from Harvard damage ai development?
spicy.lemonade: Maybe maybe not
spicy.lemonade: If it happens to take it from a lab that was working on a novel new architecture
spicy.lemonade: That’s very unlucky
spicy.lemonade: (Harvard and mit split the money)
trey6033: Looks like Gemini succeeded in safari zone in Pokemon
otub: nicee
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
himekokatagiri: man
himekokatagiri: how do you stop being a loser
himekokatagiri: I feel like such a loser
trey6033: Gotta spend less time online prob
spicy.lemonade: Get gf
spicy.lemonade: Get married
spicy.lemonade: Have kids
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zonchao: we will have to deal with AGI before post scarcity, there will be multiple years/decades between these events 🤔
gamerbath: I was in their discord and I asked how it's possible to pause AI and I shared why I think it's not possible. I got banned
rayanquitplayin: Jobs are already getting automated
thedon7075: all the reviews from people seem to indicate that o3 and o4 mini are underwhelming, thats the facts
brain4brain: I was doomer-pilling that O3 is shit on release day too don’t worry, however I have come to accept the fact that although it slightly underperform my expectations, it’s still a great model
zonchao: because itll be hijacked by people that dont have the executive skills and long term thinking capitalists do, you could say they can just let AGI figure it out, i would be more open to that than letting current commies in power. I just dont trust people that have nothing to show for except yap about equity and class war bs, better to trust builders than yappers.
brain4brain: It is also not “underwhelming”, it’s just cherry picking
rayanquitplayin: I might just stay at the AGI level, I’ll be eternally happy
zonchao: anyway I dont think we are eacc enough to figure out good policies before AGI, maybe in china.
rayanquitplayin: Yea someone else said the ai will come up with the economic system
rayanquitplayin: eacc?
zonchao: that would be nice, but imagine a scenario where 50% of the population is automated and the rest just get productivity boosts, we are not prepared
brain4brain: AGI this year, post scarcity 2027
zonchao: effective accelerationism
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
rayanquitplayin: They may get productivity boosts but I doubt it’ll reflect in their pay. Essentially the entities that own the AI will get paid out the most
brain4brain: Why are there no OpenAI release yesterday
brain4brain: Why is it so boring
zonchao: nobody knows <:shrug2:853253267534643240> but i guess thats exciting <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: Why no new model
brain4brain: Wen AGI
rayanquitplayin: Yea the American govt has so many checks and balances, it’s really slow in legislating, we’re gonna have to address the main issue: how will people find meaning in life if it’s not work
rayanquitplayin: Yeah there’s no telling the future
.wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> they are lobotomizing AI studio more, every other smut prompt is now blocked due to 'OTHER'
zonchao: <@378996537704841216> https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1913057626117820438
hey1_1hey: Not claude bro 😭
hey1_1hey: Anthropic is a sleeper lab rn
zonchao: dario is an assassin
retrerox: your ass when you are out of jail, your ass when you in prison
.wolfnacht: do you have any info on grok-3(04-27) ? is it real ?
brain4brain: Claude-3.5-sonnet was an unbelievable lucky runs that they change path to mech interp to retrieve the sonnet magic to train opus
zonchao: dont know
brain4brain: ||This is a joke, they probably did reinforcement learning or better data or something, but a lucky run could also be possible||
bob082957: If rl then they trained it like deepseek
.wolfnacht: and Grok 3.5 ?
.wolfnacht: also, the Voice Mode ?
zonchao: all we heard was soon™
zonchao: its out, but its ass
.wolfnacht: I want elon's voice in voice mode.
zonchao: better on ios
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memlaswaif: what do u work out
inferno0879: free weights and bodyweight
ailoveyoom: Most normal Japanese gooner
memlaswaif: How can u do bodyweight
_3sphere: Why are the Japanese like this lmao
memlaswaif: Do u do like 5 pushup
hikukomoru: This is what 2 nukes do to a country
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Why aren’t they into femboys like a normal person
maintcrew: 3 sets of ai evangelism and 3 sets of elon dick riding is what i do
inferno0879: i get an avg of 15 pushups
hikukomoru: Tbh Japenis love femboys too
inferno0879: i'm not 100% lard bro
memlaswaif: ure strong <:cozy:1306574869361590272>
ailoveyoom: Idk bro has a point ngl
wellmeaningalien: A PLUS SIZE BLACK WOMAN IS DOING YOGA. WATCH AND LEARN
zoermena: But she has muscles
wellmeaningalien: in the prompt btw
st.sioux: she's 90% muscle holee
wellmeaningalien: the prompt says plus size
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
memlaswaif: that's <@476963539739738114>
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: <@476963539739738114> fatass
inferno0879: youre' mom
wellmeaningalien: omg hes so silly >.< running to openai with toast in his mouth
wellmeaningalien: bro take that back at once
zonchao: https://x.com/zebulgar/status/1904932978838708531?
fractalcomputer: Altman has an ugly soul.
ailoveyoom: He's saying you're mom, so you are mom
So you're mommy
wellmeaningalien: take that back too
inferno0879: i cannot take back the backshots
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: i like when u say mean things about people
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/turnoff-dislike-nutted-orgasm-sex-gif-24973771
wellmeaningalien: 💀
wellmeaningalien: satoshi nakamoto
zoermena: Mommy wants to be punished
wellmeaningalien: truly having a field day with gpt 4o image gen rn
wellmeaningalien: WHO THE FUCK
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himekokatagiri: the red suited menace
futurist_wizard: I plan to without the cutting off part
alejandrozarzuelo: we are talking about chopping our dicks for ASI
himekokatagiri: hm
hikukomoru: <@286319745777795092> answer the penis poll in <#1227814510429995049>
himekokatagiri: can you have a dick in fdvr
shirethedreamer: you cant be any more of a menace than this chat has been for the last hour
himekokatagiri: If it takes one year then no
futurist_wizard: We don't even know the result of the Singularity
himekokatagiri: I can't live without my dick
himekokatagiri: it's an addiction issue
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: You might cut your cock off to be turned into grey goo
ailoveyoom: 💀
futurist_wizard: Well now your addiction is cured
himekokatagiri: noooooo
futurist_wizard: If you cut off
alejandrozarzuelo: I am in no hurry, like, its ok if the singularity takes a few years im ok with that
himekokatagiri: I don't wannaaaaa
himekokatagiri: that's bullying
futurist_wizard: 'a few years'
nsec: actually weak
alejandrozarzuelo: where there is a will there is a way 😏
nsec: 1 year until singularity
himekokatagiri: I mean yeah cutting someone's dick off is the worst punishment historically
alejandrozarzuelo: as long as it happens before the mid 2040s im ok with waiting
himekokatagiri: they did that in ancient china
hikukomoru: You’ll get a new one later
himekokatagiri: but it'll take a whilw
futurist_wizard: Lets say the Singularity and utopia is 20 years away, with you get a razor blade and saw your cock off then
himekokatagiri: 😭
futurist_wizard: To turn 20 into 1
hikukomoru: It’s only a year of dicklessness
nsec: 1 year w no cock and all illness cured
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
nsec: ur basically guys
nsec: guys
alejandrozarzuelo: its one year only, if i was in a rush and was guaranteed that the sing would be a good one
alejandrozarzuelo: then sure
alejandrozarzuelo: i changed my mind
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wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: I'm in class and you keep fetish posting
spicy.lemonade: ive seen enough
hikukomoru:
zoermena: Eh but I can't blame you for it
spicy.lemonade: this is on the level of o3
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/cum-wadeip200-gif-21912553
a1c4p0ne: Do conquest from invincible <@458069236825194506>
hey1_1hey: I just busted
technocake.: mentioning turing without church smh
zoermena:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: No nutting in general
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o btw
wellmeaningalien: still
.histic:
hey1_1hey: Can it make karll marx, the duo lingo bird, winny the poo and genghas khann kiss in that format please 🙏
hikukomoru: FRACTAL????
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Everything related to making images tbh
.histic: crazy
hey1_1hey: Adobe cooked (photoshop)
wellmeaningalien:
a1c4p0ne: What about professional artists?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802
zoermena: The only worth of artists now is name
.histic:
hey1_1hey: WTF
hey1_1hey: DOUBLE WTF
hey1_1hey: Why is everyone making trump a zesty mf or giving him tatoos
.histic: <@439829942310666250>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363
a1c4p0ne: So art classes will go out of business?
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I should make trump an MF13 member
hikukomoru: creaming
hey1_1hey: I NEED TO SHOW MY MATH FRIEND THIS
wellmeaningalien:
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hikukomoru: That means it's a nothingburger
literallyvarane:
hikukomoru: Hype cancelled
literallyvarane: It’s very clearly not a narrow AI.
hey1_1hey: Komoru is just a chinese spy dont listen to them
literallyvarane: Chess Engines are a narrow AI. It can do one task, and *only* one task. ChatGPT 3.5 clearly isn’t a narrow AI.
drewsni: I’m going to be so fucking pissed off if o4 mini and o3 can’t literally 1 shot every problem I have
hikukomoru: No, I'm just Google's no.1 simp
literallyvarane: Alpha fold is a narrow ai etc etc
hikukomoru: I hate mini models
hikukomoru: Just give us the full thing
popsiclejohnithan: Mini models are useful though, sure they are less powerful but you can fit them in less compute, like a phone for example.
literallyvarane: They have a clear use case imo.
st.sioux: theyre so useful
st.sioux: lol
_cloudost: Tell it if GPT 3.5 is an narrow AI
drewsni: How the FUCK can you say no twink when Greg motherfucking brockman is gonna be there
hey1_1hey: I mean am I wrong?
hikukomoru: Uhuh
hey1_1hey: There isn't a ddrink
hey1_1hey: twink
popsiclejohnithan: He's not *the* twink.
hikukomoru: Such as
st.sioux: silly ass name
st.sioux: brontorock johnson
hey1_1hey: If o4-mini cant tell me what gender I am its not AGI
hikukomoru: No drinking 🥀
hey1_1hey: Maybe if o4-mini is AGI
drewsni: No but if gbm is there then AGI is announced
hikukomoru: AGI or not I'm still going to drink
drewsni: Remember that Greg brockman is the sole reason why gpt 4 actually worked and was good. Imagine where we’d be now without gpt 4
hikukomoru: Don't start with the gender stuff already
zoermena: HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
zoermena: <a:HYPERCATJAM:1037101323516121209>
popsiclejohnithan: We're pretty close to AGI honestly, i can see it happening this year with what these past few months have shown us.
hey1_1hey: You started this not me remember
hikukomoru: I hope you're right
zoermena: If the model is super good I’ll buy a pizza to eat today
zoermena: And I will send proof
literallyvarane: Response time, $ improvements, or task that don’t require a ton of world knowledge.
If you need a model for coding, mini is going to probably be just as good and much cheaper.
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spicy.lemonade: I should post my findings on artistshate
spicy.lemonade: Lmao
zonchao: banned
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
zonchao: do it on defending ai art
zonchao: all the big artist hate andys lurk there
wellmeaningalien: OH MY LORD NO
spicy.lemonade: What
wellmeaningalien: ok maybe u should tbh it would be funny
zonchao: he will get banned
maintcrew: wrong chat
wellmeaningalien: who rlly cares
zonchao: nobody will see it
zonchao: if he posts on defending ai art more people will see it
.wolfnacht: And the bread they eat in morning is not bread, bcz the dough is kneaded by machine and baked by machine and everything's literally automated atm.
avizuradnb: Maybe persuade them to join our side. Ask an LLM how to convert the unbelievers.
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: They are already past that, now that they can't tell it's AI they're starting to call it 'soulless' and to look for it in the 'eyes'
st.sioux: i saw it on a post on r/piratedgames
st.sioux: but its deleted now
avizuradnb: Has anyone ever asked them what they mean by 'soul'?
hey1_1hey: This is like conversion therapy but for artists
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Agi achieved?
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
precariousworlds.: This seems like a big deal?
spicy.lemonade: https://ai-timeline.org/
spicy.lemonade:
avizuradnb: epicness
avizuradnb: The acceleration is accelerating
hikukomoru: Look at the current date compared to 10 years ago
hikukomoru: "AI winter" my ass
_cloudost: This probably happened after Ilya showed a glimpse of ASI ( for 3 secounds ) to the CEO of Microsoft and now suddenly Microsoft is taking this drastic decision
maintcrew: is this all of their projects with GPUs
maintcrew: or just OpenAI exclusive ones like stargate
hikukomoru: It's not over
It just started
spicy.lemonade: probably stargate
_cloudost: this is what the majority of r/singularity believed about the AI winter 4-3 months ago
maintcrew: yea i think so too
maintcrew: sama generational fumble fucking up their only big tech pay pig
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drewsni: oh yeah ill just go do this
hikukomoru: I see you left a comment
trent_k: yes
trent_k: since theyre all leaving their usernames ive been looking up what they write
hikukomoru: Oh this guys writes Baldur's Gate rape fics
himekokatagiri: idk I think AO3 has decent madoka fics
himekokatagiri: though I prefer the SV/SB quests
trojan09205: Im watching an insane movie
trojan09205: Enemy - w jake gyllenhall
hikukomoru: <@1068159407671754824>
drewsni: btw i know multiple people who have much earlier scrapes of ao3 so likely even newer locked ones have been scraped for quite some time
drewsni: https://huggingface.co/datasets/Chat-Error/archiveofourown-newest
trent_k: hahaha nice
drewsni: someone uploaded the age of empires 3 manual with the dataset viewer turned off to bait people
drewsni: its bait btw dont click accept
drewsni: or maybe project gutenburg, either way
trent_k: wonder if i could upload a bait one with a phone number that they can call to request removal
trent_k: hahaha
drewsni: these people have no clue how outclassed they are
otub: <@750270494615404544> https://fixupx.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1915806748515917900
himekokatagiri: <@1068159407671754824> what's your opinion on ao3
himekokatagiri: don't you think it's better if we trained on the original work
himekokatagiri: instead of derivatives
gamerbath: I have never heard of ao3 before, it's some sort of archive?
himekokatagiri: it's a site where you publish fanfiction
himekokatagiri: and everything is allowed
trent_k: frankly, most of AO3 is pretty shit. just an enormous amount of low effort poorly written texts by people with a tenuous grasp on english. but that being said, how can you recognize shitty art if you've never seen it? we should train on absolutely everything
himekokatagiri: so the dregs congregate there
drewsni: transformative* fanfiction
trent_k: ~~fanfiction~~ erotica
himekokatagiri: but then won't the AI make shitty art
drewsni: what if ao3 archive is the missing piece to fixing listicle slop
trent_k: image generators have used shitty art as training data and tagged it so the model knows what to avoid
trent_k: e.g. putting score_9 in the regular prompt box, and putting score_6 in the negative prompt box
hikukomoru: smut
gamerbath: excuse me?
spicy.lemonade: slowest week ever
hikukomoru: Are we getting anything soon
gamerbath: there's some sort of AI ML event thingy for the next 2 weeks or something like that
zonchao: lfggg
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hikukomoru: No
hikukomoru: Only for researchers
hikukomoru: 20k
spicy.lemonade: “How to make thermonuclear bomb in basement”
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Nah
hikukomoru: <@482923866600112154> tier research query
thedon7075: until deepmind or deepseek create an equivalent model in a few months at 100 times cheaper price
jonvi_1: Moom OpenAI is blackhole posting https://x.com/openai/status/1911782243640754634?s=46
thedon7075: 4.1
spicy.lemonade: This week is gonna be batshit
spicy.lemonade: Google dropping
spicy.lemonade: Kling
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI
jonvi_1: Blackhole and developers suggest maybe some memory api thing to me? Idk though
spicy.lemonade: Deepseek next week
thedon7075: This year has already surpassed 2024
spicy.lemonade: Not yet. After this week it will
zoermena: This quarter
spicy.lemonade: Keep in mind end of 2024 was insane
spicy.lemonade: And in 2024 we saw a whole new paradigm
spicy.lemonade: But this week will make it pass
thedon7075: lets hope so
thedon7075: open ai have to deliver
forallhumanity: https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/1911789771137188273
futurist_wizard: Black hole
zoermena: If it’s true I could see how this could easily justify taking out a loan with the goal of striking rich
spicy.lemonade: I need 20k guys
spicy.lemonade: I wanna ask it to make Fdvr
spicy.lemonade: I think this is the model where it can actually give us a good answer
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: Not speculating anymore
hey1_1hey: I feel really fnny rn. not stressed yanno just like ia m kinda high even though i havent taken anything its kinda nice yanno
hey1_1hey: Feels like im dreaming innit
hikukomoru: Damn, 20k
hikukomoru: Competition's gonna make something cheaper anyways
futurist_wizard: Wake up
zoermena: If true this could make or break the world paradigm, such intelligence has to be good enough to replace jobs
spicy.lemonade: I’m loving this year
spicy.lemonade: Ai will solve a millennium problem next year
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ailoveyoom: Seems similar enough to OpenWorm lol
ailoveyoom: Okay wait nvm, it's probably less granular
ailoveyoom: Still cool tho
himekokatagiri: Then you rig it with firebase?
himekokatagiri: Shit I'll try that
himekokatagiri: it's just y'know gpt/sora is shit for graphics
technocake.: could work, i'd recommend picking an engine and sticking to it
.histic: <@286319745777795092> my sub ends in 2 days and i've 17 deep research usages and i don't know what to use them for.
give me an idea.
himekokatagiri: let's see
himekokatagiri: shit my discord crapped out
himekokatagiri: ```How could I make a playable first person shooter with 2D style graphics (think Blood or Duke3D) with a modern, accessible free game engine using an AI agent like Cursor or Firebase```
.histic: that's a weird question 🤔
you don't want it to code it, you want it to just give you what it thinks may work?
i don't know whether it will be knowledgeable about how capable models are at coding such a thing.
himekokatagiri: that is true
himekokatagiri: think of it as the himeko benchmark
himekokatagiri: (idk I don't have any other deep research ideas)
himekokatagiri: Can deep research code?
himekokatagiri: I thought you needed an agent to code a project
.histic: it can output code but i think it has limited outputs
himekokatagiri: Then if we're talking a project of this scope how could an AI do it
himekokatagiri: I don't think it's possible
.histic: give me another question lol
himekokatagiri: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
himekokatagiri: ```Do an analysis on the decline of Brazilian railways from the post war period until their privatization (1945 - 1999)```
himekokatagiri: sounds academic
himekokatagiri: give it back to me I'll read it and I guess I'm knowledgeable enough to know if it's wrong
.histic: do i just say, "Yes". lol
himekokatagiri: 1. All of them you mentioned
2. General overview
3. Not other countries but other modes of transport
4. They should
.histic: alright
himekokatagiri: Now we wait 15 hours
himekokatagiri: No sane intelligent being can rationalize this
himekokatagiri: ahhhh to being bored again
himekokatagiri: when is AI getting fun
himekokatagiri: we broke fools have nothing man
himekokatagiri: sama do something I know you're reading this
.histic:
0x1dase: bro is edging us with the 'sleepless nights' post
0x1dase: I think the population will simply keep diminishing in number and then plateau as AI integrates with humans to form a new species gradually. Its just evolution, not extinction
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/zKQfxi8V5FA
.histic: removed tasks from the model selector and now it's baked into the models ig.
.histic: https://chatgpt.com/share/680a9e56-7628-8005-bd52-31bacfa02e0b
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alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly idk if autists here have it worse than in other places or maybe they are used to it because we are very loud
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> why aren't you in the other server
hikukomoru: Do you mean Siev's
himekokatagiri: The only.
hikukomoru: I'm on there
On another account
himekokatagiri: Why
himekokatagiri: Is komoru a persona you put on
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: Hehe, you caught on to what i was alluding too
futurist_wizard: Lucky escape Alejandro
trent_k: if komoru turned out to actually be a man pretending to be a femcel and not a God's honest femcel, I would be shattered. destroyed. ruined
alejandrozarzuelo: I
Am
Not
Autistic
<:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: you don't have to be a genius to do the math, guv.
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/life-on-mars-gene-genie-gif-24628898
futurist_wizard: You might just be autism passing
alejandrozarzuelo: Lol
anathemaofmankind: Real femcels are disgusting anyway
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> no
futurist_wizard: <@505313122802728972>
himekokatagiri: <@578146630222741504> don't you have a life goal
anathemaofmankind: I do?
anathemaofmankind: Why are you asking
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-2-mvm-mann-vs-machine-medic-gif-3285869801930773374
himekokatagiri: everyone teaming up to witness AGI
hikukomoru: No this is my main account
I don't post a single thing on my other, just a lurker account
himekokatagiri: oh
alejandrozarzuelo: Komoru can't possibly be your real name
himekokatagiri: its hikikomoru
himekokatagiri: Hikki K. Omoru
hikukomoru: Of course not Alejandro
You're the only person who would put their real name on their discord account
himekokatagiri: trentk did it.
himekokatagiri: Trent Korn
himekokatagiri: vocalist of eight cm nails
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh damn is this where it comes from
trent_k: disagree
trent_k: i put my real name and face on my discord to remind myself not to fedpost too hard
himekokatagiri: You failed
himekokatagiri: also anonymity should be exercised
himekokatagiri: for everything
okbut: Some options better than 4.1: 4o+, 4oo, 4o Pro (Experimental)
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zoermena: I wouldn't be so sure imo to say that you haven't engaged in philosophy, perhaps it wasn't as deep as that of those who make it into books but I'd imagine that the mere thought of contemplating the worth of your actions in a world where your inidivual contributions are so small or in the face of death are all inside that scope. Maybe i'm wrong though and Fractal has a better answer.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-that%27s-rad-so-rad-rad-rad-tv-gif-11628456418057131763
zoermena: How does one study something with no objective right answers
drewsni: I think in the present only, i contemplate nothing in life
spicy.lemonade: O3 performed worse
fractalcomputer: Certain people love to reduce philosophy to this dry, academic activity. I think this is nonsense. We make "philosophical" decisions all the time in our quotidian life—people spontaneously "do" philosophy.
spicy.lemonade: This might have something to do with o4 mini high better coding ability
.wolfnacht: Try bytedance's dreamseed its great
zoermena: Yeah that was my thought too, but as a follow up q, how do you study philosophy a field with no objective right answers and conflicting perspectives, how do you obtain value? Do you go and think hey I didn't think of it this way or something?
fractalcomputer: When someone says "I believe etc.", they are philosophising. When someone says "I value etc.", they are philosophising. When someone discusses mathematics, physics or biology, they are philosophising; philosophy in its most general form is simply about conceptualisation.
fractalcomputer: It's a form of art. Good philosophy is generally philosophy that is interesting—obviously a very subjective criterion—but no one would hear philosophy that is not saying anything new.
fractalcomputer: Again, people like to mystify philosophy and the other abstract pursuits—but that is mostly because most people are a bit dumb and lack a certain naivety or curiosity that is at the heart of anything thought good.
drewsni: guilty as charged
zoermena: I suppose so, perhaps you'll find it irrelevant or not but I've also seen how in social media the idea of philosophy has been romanticized as this aesthetic study and the like without touching behind the deeper meaning of the concept as you´ve just described.
fractalcomputer: Insulting anyone in particular wasn't my intention here.
fractalcomputer: Mystification at its best.
.wolfnacht: I slept for only 3 hrs and i feel like shit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Wow
spicy.lemonade: Photoshop killed twice
precariousworlds.: GEORGIA MENTIONED 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH ABKHAZHIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH SOUTH OSSETIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 YANKEE RIPOFF PISS OFF 🇺🇸 🤢 WHAT THE FUCK IS A TURK 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪
fractalcomputer: I love Abkhazian as well.
precariousworlds.: APKHAZETI IS SAKARTVELO
fractalcomputer: Right.
ailoveyoom: Also the jargon and fancy words 😭
ailoveyoom: Maybe I can ask LLMs to translate fancy talk to brainrot speak 😈
zoermena: Oh yes
zoermena: Trent is an expert
zoermena: Bro you always share the content that was posted like hours ago in the chat
gamerbath: wait why can I access o3 and o4-mini through the API???? they said they were releasing the models to the API in the next couple of weeks but I have access after just a few days?
zoermena: Because you are alpha sigma
abundantliving_: My Apologies
spicy.lemonade: How does bro think we benchmarked it
zoermena: its ok its just weird is all
abundantliving_: It's just I post something when I see something..
gamerbath: they often get early access, and for a lot of benchmarks OAI did it themselves
abundantliving_: Someone from other side of the world would have been online and posted it before. Being a first poster of something is difficult
abundantliving_: Also because it's hard to read 1000 message that accumulated over time when I am sleeping
abundantliving_: Otherwise I would see if someone posted it before me.
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spicy.lemonade: Gemini 2.0 can do this
spicy.lemonade: Btw
futurist_wizard: It has to be able to do what humans can do
spicy.lemonade: Everything?
_cloudost: Really.....
spicy.lemonade: Yes
_cloudost: No one told me
spicy.lemonade: Did you not see the video
_cloudost: No
spicy.lemonade: They released it could control robot perfectly
spicy.lemonade: Perform actions
_cloudost: Never seen it
futurist_wizard: I don't see why it shouldn't be able to do everything a human can do
_cloudost: I have only seen someone use it to manipulate Blender
futurist_wizard: If we are considering it agi
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/keerthanpg/status/1899849190358102421?s=46
spicy.lemonade: This
spicy.lemonade: Watch it
spicy.lemonade: I called it 92% agi
spicy.lemonade: So close
futurist_wizard: It doing things humans can do is more important than any labeling of AGI
spicy.lemonade: Is a disabled human still agi?
spicy.lemonade: What about guy with blindness
futurist_wizard: If it can't even work a minimum wage job who gives a fuck
spicy.lemonade: Etc etc
spicy.lemonade: I don’t think it needs to do every single thing a human can
spicy.lemonade: Should just be able to reliably function in human world
spicy.lemonade: And learn and adapt
futurist_wizard: Then it should be able to do everything a human can do
_cloudost: Just shared this to someone who told me that AI can't have intelligence it's just knowledgeable, TNX for sharing
spicy.lemonade: 👍
spicy.lemonade: I’m guessing
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 is
spicy.lemonade: O4
spicy.lemonade: And scaled up base
ldj: Does it count if it doesn’t have it on launch but will have it later down the road?
spicy.lemonade: itl have it day 1
_cloudost: I guess yeah, maybe 5o will have the improved IMG generator model
spicy.lemonade: artists are so cooked man
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 needs 10 million context
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hey1_1hey: You're talking to one rn
futurist_wizard: I can play anything but i usually main spy or engineer
hey1_1hey: Jk I dont hate jews 👍
wellmeaningalien: ironically i like scout cause i like being fast and hitting things
hey1_1hey: I read that as pyro and almost died for you
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-shocked-bocchi-shock-face-anime-shocked-face-bocch-the-rock-shocked-gif-27050901
hey1_1hey: I main trollider
futurist_wizard: I play all the classes
.wolfnacht: yeah, we all know that was a misunderstanding, the fuhrer only asked for "a glass of juice"
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/tralalelo-tralala-bombardiro-crocodilo-tralalelo-tralala-vs-bombardiro-crocodilo-gif-2485123144263978191
wellmeaningalien: ↑ this is my tf2 class
hey1_1hey: Obv
hey1_1hey: Happnes to the best of us
hey1_1hey: Didn't know you played engfi
futurist_wizard: I don't think maining is important in tf2 unlike overwatch which i quit
futurist_wizard: Its a casual game
.wolfnacht: i saw this crocodile alot, is this a current brainrot thing ?
wellmeaningalien: IDK
hey1_1hey: Theres a bunch of people who play demo man and spam the "Need a dispenser here!" voice line and if you do that fast enough in the spawn room it just sounds like he is saying the N-Word over and over and over again
fractalcomputer: Consume coproma.
hikukomoru: That’s a TF2 class wdym
hey1_1hey: Italian brainrot
wellmeaningalien: you cant just steal those words straight out of the goat's mouth
.wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk7yhkUVjVc
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/mr-milchick-severance-macrodata-refinement-praise-kier-lumon-gif-7531971298691360700
wellmeaningalien: peak
wellmeaningalien: this is wayyy more peak tho
fractalcomputer: I've finally found a use for all these models. I make them write biographies for scientists specialising in fictional fields of study, like "pure ethics" or "physical teleology."
hey1_1hey: What the fuck
fractalcomputer: Terribly entertaining.
hey1_1hey: I think I just lost a billion nuerosn
.wolfnacht:
wellmeaningalien: basically u make them an echo chamber for ur schizophrenic ramblings
wellmeaningalien: PEAK
wellmeaningalien: WHAT THE FUCK
wellmeaningalien: PEAK
futurist_wizard: <@749514473303179358> how do you feel about 99% of the internet becoming this by 2027
hey1_1hey: Schzio I wish you a horrible day
wellmeaningalien: yeah fratal huh?
hey1_1hey: This is horrible
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wellmeaningalien: idk if flux 2.0 can be as good as gpt 4o image gen due to it's very nature
wellmeaningalien: or who knows
.wolfnacht: i'm happy with using gemini 2.5 pro, with 5 different accounts to bypass the limits
spicy.lemonade: still cant create a 70 page comic book reliably
spicy.lemonade: we arent there yet
maintcrew: i hope that if openai gets sued for copyright they just release the model as a leak with a torrent and say some internal rogue employee did it
maintcrew: but openai isnt based like that
spicy.lemonade: maybe in 6 monthsd
.wolfnacht: one day, it'll catch up
drewsni: That it can geolcoate an exact street in Topeka Kansas and have an actual mostly accurate visual representation? Yeah
.wolfnacht: >I HATE PAID SERVICES
>I HATE PAID SERVICES
>I HATE PAID SERVICES
>I HATE PAID SERVICES
>I HATE PAID SERVICES
maintcrew: "still cant create what a human artist spends 1 month on. SLOP"
spicy.lemonade: lol
maintcrew: True but in this case you are literally using GPUs to run them
maintcrew: you arent paying them for the privilege, you are actually consuming resources
wellmeaningalien: yeah im sure open source is working on it anyway
wellmeaningalien: janus and everything
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh I use this feature all the time, whenever anyone has a pic in their profile, cuz im a lil stalker
alejandrozarzuelo: it guesses correctly 9/10
alejandrozarzuelo: its like rainbolt
alejandrozarzuelo: but faster
wellmeaningalien: can it guess my profile
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
wellmeaningalien: where it is
.wolfnacht: what i do, stays with me and on my computer also, i've got a 4090
maintcrew: you removed | Oviedo from your name
maintcrew: ur going weak el zarzu
drewsni: im assuming most of the 9 are common locations?
wellmeaningalien: arguably it kind of sort of half is today
wellmeaningalien: yes
.wolfnacht: I NEED FDVR NOW
.wolfnacht: i think r/fdvr should make this their new icon
alejandrozarzuelo: everyone knows it already and it was a veeeeeery long name
i dont like long names in discord
maintcrew: i doubt the 4o image gen can run on your 4090 if sama says their gpus are burning
wellmeaningalien: thats cause they have to serve billions of people you dummy. but the GPT 4o model itself is like 200b params
.wolfnacht: i think the admin of r/fdvr is here with us, in this gc
wellmeaningalien: still like 20x bigger than any image gen model but yk
maintcrew: 200b still doesnt fit in a 4090 dummy
alejandrozarzuelo: people do tend to post pics of at least semi-common places
do you consider a random plaza in the middle of Gijon (a small city in northern spain) as a common place? i mean sure
wellmeaningalien: yeah but the kind of people who are running deepseek r1 locally will def be able to run it
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_cloudost: CS students usually end up homeless
_cloudost: After graduating
_cloudost: Once AI takes over the workforce they will be homeless for the rest of their lives
.wolfnacht: the two cs grad routes either a neckbeard or femboy
futurist_wizard: Probably makes more than she would've
futurist_wizard: Being a cs major
zoermena: Temporary rate limits for plus?
zoermena: Fair
_3sphere: Which major is least useless now 💀
realelonmuskx: bro oai gpus are getting melted, sora queue is like half an hour lmao
.wolfnacht: i opened my reddit feed and dis is the first thing i saw
zoermena: It was faster yesterday I mean I haven’t made anything today
st.sioux: it is super slow
st.sioux: comments on an article about rate limits
memlaswaif: hardware
memlaswaif: robotics
memlaswaif: gender studies
_3sphere: Pretty sure AI can study gender better by the time it annihilates STEM jobs
st.sioux: 3d modeling seems to be lacking behind
st.sioux: maybe cad
st.sioux: mechanical engineering
hey1_1hey: Stole my joke <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
_3sphere: I think CAD will end up being a computer use agent thing if it's not solved as a modality
st.sioux: even ai will get bored of that shit
st.sioux: will send itself into the cybergulag instead of doing cad
realelonmuskx:
zoermena: Hmm
zoermena: I’ve been to busy to generate anything
memlaswaif: not really
memlaswaif: I wouldn't bet on it
memlaswaif: humanities is gonna be safer for a while
fractalcomputer: That is likely because the humanities are entirely useless.
.wolfnacht: except the law part [for atleast next 10 yrs, but i hope that changes soon too]
metaldragon01: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1905331956856050135
bob082957: Why this dude in transformers film his name is Sam ?
joaoluz19: GPT looks cooler
.wolfnacht: Has sama developed a breeding kink ? bcz he started delivering all of a sudden.
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht:
aero447: Following the report, Microsoft's shares fell 1.31 percent.
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supersteve8000: sure
supersteve8000: oh oh my b
supersteve8000: my interpretation of the graph above ^ is that it is *non-linear* or exponential in its nature
supersteve8000: lemme look again
hikukomoru: How?
supersteve8000: could someone * pointer their graph here:
supersteve8000: i reckon i will scroll back up
supersteve8000: i believe <@312370916820779040> is looking at it from an *exponential* perspective, where the model is improving at a rate that will only increase *over time*
supersteve8000: i could be wrong lmfaooo
supersteve8000: for ex [ year 2048 ] ai could be so far advanced that we have to look at, *treating the ai* correctly, so as not to overestimate in how we understand it's inner-code
supersteve8000: [ year **** ] be careful w pointers
supersteve8000: just be kind to them :d is my moral here
supersteve8000: 🐸
supersteve8000: cause what if?
supersteve8000: then we're looking at like ▓ matrix type math, or quantum-ally
supersteve8000: which would be a scary world so, yeah
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supersteve8000:
supersteve8000: 11:33 pm for moi <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
ldj: Literally anything that takes you 8 hours? such as an 8 hour work day.
Or if you work at a job for 4 years, that's 4 years of work, etc..
or better to represent 4 years of work as more like 1 or 2 years of work, but you get what I mean
supersteve8000: keep it clean keep it clean
supersteve8000: *mediating*
supersteve8000: HANK NO
supersteve8000: PLS
supersteve8000: FOR SKYLAR
supersteve8000: let them cook now: 🔥
supersteve8000: fav show oat tbh
ldj: If it's any amount of work that takes a human 8 hours, then it takes 8 hours.
It doesn't matter if you think it's 10 tasks chained together that are each 40 minutes long, or 100 tasks chained together that are each 4 minutes long, it's still work that took a human 8 hours to do.
supersteve8000: or like 400 duckies :
supersteve8000:
supersteve8000: graph = 💯
supersteve8000: had to chat i had to
supersteve8000: - caseoh
supersteve8000: if u go to my vsco it'll rly throw yall for a infinite while loop
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what if I work sporadically like 5 minutes at a time, then continue off where I left
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: and what if my job was lots of little tasks
ldj: I'm showing you actual data that is measured of AI capabilities. Claude 3.7 sonnet, Claude-3-Opus, even GPT-3 and GPT-2 all follow the same rough trend.
The error rate is halved for each ~3.5X reduction in time horizon attempts.
Claude-3.7-sonnet for example is capable of doing 40 second time-horizon of work with 99% accuracy.
and that same model is able to do:
3 minute time horizons with 95% accuracy.
6.5 minute time horizon with 90% accuracy.
14 minute time horizon with 80% accuracy.
1 hour time horizon with 50% accuracy.
supersteve8000: an ∞.loop lol
supersteve8000: thank u for such valuable insight
nsec: <a:pat:832958622539186197>
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maintcrew: yo did u see that deepseek employees need to be vetted by the local gov
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien: exactly why openai cant be in china
maintcrew: genuinely how does this happen yet their cities dont have running water
wellmeaningalien: btw i heard that usa's apparently restricting chinese ai expertise from coming into the country
wellmeaningalien: its kinda retarded but when i think about it kinda makes sense from an intel perspective
wellmeaningalien: cause 99% of cities still dont have running water
maintcrew: doubt it lmfao every tech company would call trump personally
_cloudost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1STdSGH7A isn't this animation basically human slop?
maintcrew: name a western or developed asian city that doesnt have running water
name any country but india with at least a trillion in gdp that doesnt have it
wellmeaningalien: its kinda like a usa situation but cranked up max wealth disparity drives people to create wealth for themselves and in turn their nation it's not a perfect system but its the best thing a developing country with a corrupt gov can get
wellmeaningalien: or a china "let some people get rich first"
futurist_wizard: Yes
wellmeaningalien: uhh all those native canadians plus people with shit tap water in some parts of the US
wellmeaningalien: yeah but im nitpicking lmao
wellmeaningalien: but yeah india has already like a billion and a half people so even tho it's kind of a shithole, it's like
maintcrew: if u mean flint michigan thats long been fixed
shit tap water doesnt mean no tap water ... im more hinting at the infra for running water
wellmeaningalien: the sheer size still more than makes up for it
wellmeaningalien: i mean it's still like
maintcrew: yea ig
wellmeaningalien: it's like 10x smaller than china's economy
wellmeaningalien: so like for the exact same population and size it's fine you know
maintcrew: oh damn real
maintcrew: yea makes sense they have a lot of gdp just because they are that many but its not particularly efficient
wellmeaningalien: and india has the benefit of although a corrupt government it's still a unified government without too much internal conflict better than what a lot of developing nations can say
wellmeaningalien: and a sense of national direction
maintcrew: anyways back to ai
maintcrew: sama pulled the oldest trick in the book
wellmeaningalien: yea india not numba 1
maintcrew: get users with discounts (india) before a funding round
maintcrew: classic sv move
wellmeaningalien: i wonder when openai will actually be profitable
wellmeaningalien: cause i think right now they dont actually make net profit
wellmeaningalien: all investments eventually have to go back into developing better ai so
maintcrew: https://x.com/ImSh4yy/status/1906840257783644336
maintcrew: u remember early uber days
maintcrew: when rides were cheap
maintcrew: either that or the market itself competes itself to 0
futurist_wizard: Man india needs to hurry up and stop being such a lackluster country
wellmeaningalien: and what about those starving children in your basement 😉
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zonchao: i never fell for the big model smell 😤
zoermena: I liked 4.5
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-victim-gif-26645338
zoermena: It gave me cool ideas on how to peel off a sticker it was alr but slow
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mind-enigma-spilled-milk-gif-14172730
zonchao: LMFAO
zonchao: https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1911835651810738406? they mad
.0xunkn0wn: damn
memlaswaif: even nano is better than 4o
futurist_wizard: Nano 🤏
zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1911843102895358198?
aero447: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911833544915108151
memlaswaif: we don't care about evil ldj opinion
wellmeaningalien: Are u kidding me nigga they compared gpt 4.1 with the November gpt 4o
neon01197: daz pretty good
ldj: Full set of GPT-4.1 benchmarks here <@&1293118293829484575>
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1911846354092958074? 😂😂😂😂😂
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058
wellmeaningalien: I hate how every company feels the need to game the benchmarks when their model isn't SOTA especially with openai giving up comparing to non openai models
dean_martin: Is 4.5 actually bad?
zonchao: yes
wellmeaningalien: I'm expecting the comparisons with deepseek v3.1 Claude 3.7 and gemini 2.0 pro
shirethedreamer: they were pretty upfront about it being a preview model
this probably means we are going to get a more finished version in a week or two
zonchao: they said they taking it out to get GPUs for research though
dean_martin: If 4.5 is worse than 4.1…. lol lmao
st.sioux: i said quasar was shit and you called me a madman
shirethedreamer: this means that even with the absurd price it was still used more than they are willing to allocate compute 👀
st.sioux: well no one called me anything but still
wellmeaningalien: OpenCucks getting starved of GPUs meanwhile Googlechad like Mmmyes more TPUs waiter
wellmeaningalien: <:1_yummy:1201354502163419237>
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: everyone will be openAI pilled after o4
wellmeaningalien: LOLOL
wellmeaningalien: Ye probably right
spicy.lemonade: the cyckle repeats
dean_martin: OpenAI in 2027 releasing GPT-4.999
wellmeaningalien: Base models have never been openai's game
spicy.lemonade: openAI is so over->openAI is so back-openAI is so over
zonchao: https://x.com/generalmatter/status/1911775759301063144?
wellmeaningalien: Excited!
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sarik0497: I think the thing people should be ready for is that the first 80% might be easy, but the last 20% will take forever.
We often hear something going really well, and then it just slows down immensely close to the finish line because it was harder than they expected.
anathemaofmankind: What are we missing right now
anathemaofmankind: Agents and long context?
spicy.lemonade: i hate copyright. hopefully grok makes their own native image gen on the same level. got a screenshot before it deleted
spicy.lemonade: idk if itl be like that
spicy.lemonade: the first 80% should be enough for automated research agents
sarik0497: We don’t really know.
It’s the same with the brain. We once thought “Oh, to simulate the brain you just need X amount of compute. We’ll get there in 2025!” only to later realize that the is far, far bigger than anticipated, and we’re still far away from that level of compute.
AGI could be 1 upgrade away. It could be 10, or 50. We don’t really know until we see it.
alejandrozarzuelo: im the furthest thing from bald you could think
alejandrozarzuelo: i have long luscious curly hair
sarik0497: That’s a strong point, and something a lot of people have said. Even with current tech, AI will change a lot of things for good, and likely speed up sectors.
anathemaofmankind: Pics or it didn't happen
anathemaofmankind: LLMs are already human level in a lot of areas
anathemaofmankind: <@806143139894525962>
anathemaofmankind: I feel like if you add long term planing then it's going to be human level in most job performances
fractalcomputer: Easier said than done.
spicy.lemonade: more context+agent&tool for loop+ more reasoning scale would be enough for a quickly ducktaped version of AGI
spicy.lemonade: lol
anathemaofmankind: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: claude plays pokemon but infinite memory and better reasoning
fractalcomputer: I am interested in knowing why people here are always so confident in their predictions when rarely if ever any of the specific predictions made here come true.
spicy.lemonade: and maybe reason over image
spicy.lemonade: my predictions are just rays predicitons
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: besides agi
spicy.lemonade: agi 2027 for me
sarik0497: We think so, but it’s still wrong on some really obvious things.
It won’t be able to replace important jobs as it is right now. It might replace some desk jobs and such, but you won’t see it take over all CS positions at its current level.
But it’ll definitely remain a part of the workforce for years to come, like PCs, smartphones and more did.
fractalcomputer: Kurzweil's?
spicy.lemonade: yes
anathemaofmankind: I mean you're describing ASI
fractalcomputer: Astounding things he's done, eh?
anathemaofmankind: If it can reliably replace a bunch of jobs then shouldn't it be AGI
shirethedreamer: id put his popularization of the singularity above his engineering work any day of the week
sarik0497: No? AGI should be able to do any job that your average Joe can do, right?
ASI would be something that can do anything we can and more without issues.
spicy.lemonade: fr
spicy.lemonade: without ray i wouldnt be here
fractalcomputer: Explains certain things.
anathemaofmankind: Yeah so we can have AGI without it being able to replace all CS positions
spicy.lemonade: lol
anathemaofmankind: Just have similar performance to your average employee
sarik0497: I refer to most CS positions. If anything, it’ll only get hard for juniors to find a job, but the seniors will likely stay if things don’t move from where they are right now.
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spicy.lemonade: And that’s it
spicy.lemonade: How do I know I won’t go back to dreaming
spicy.lemonade: This has happened loads of times
technocake.: or anything, if you want to get to fucking its better to imagine a self consistent world first so you won't be kicked out
spicy.lemonade: 💀
technocake.: helps to have a reality check, like read text and check it doesn't change
alejandrozarzuelo: Fr
technocake.: or read a clock
spicy.lemonade: Can’t I just imagine my room
technocake.: absolute worst thing to do
alejandrozarzuelo: In Spanish we have a lovely word for the kind of lucid dreaming you get after waking up and then falling into the lightest possible sleep
alejandrozarzuelo: Remolonear
Also used for the act of resisting waking up
alejandrozarzuelo: I know it's a stereotype but I love to remoloneate in the morning
And then have a siesta after lunch
technocake.: I'm spanish - who knew?
alejandrozarzuelo: You already have real life for fucking
Lucid dreaming is best for other kinds of things you cannot do irl
Today, a Saturday, I did remoloneate after waking up and I dreamt that I was in a karaoke camp and was doing song battles
alejandrozarzuelo: Disney channel style
technocake.: nice, I was gardening a raised great garden, but then I flooded the land
technocake.: we have benedorm fest for that no?
alejandrozarzuelo: Benidorm
technocake.: well fuck me yeah that
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't get to participate in it tho
technocake.: true
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, the benidorm fest is very famous, although in my dream it was more of a cozy teen camp where you were with your friends doing music and singing karaoke in a music camp more Disney channel style
alejandrozarzuelo: Like high school musical or smth
technocake.: sounds like good vibes - did you know there are songwriting camps?
technocake.: no pressure type thing
technocake.: so if its a hobby it might be fun
alejandrozarzuelo: There are indeed
I want to join a lot of stuff, but I need to finish the studies I started first
alejandrozarzuelo: Then I'll be happy
alejandrozarzuelo: 99% of my problems come from university
technocake.: are you math or physics major?
alejandrozarzuelo: Both
alejandrozarzuelo: At the same time
technocake.: oh nice
alejandrozarzuelo: Also here majors are 33% longer than in most of the world
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a major + half a master
technocake.: doing some riemann surfaces and analytic continuation and stuff
alejandrozarzuelo: So, 2 majors and 2 half masters
It's hell
alejandrozarzuelo: I already passed all my analysis classes but yes
technocake.: tensor at all?
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ldj: Or are you just saying that there is more options than just those 2 extremes (if so I agree)
destrucules: I'm saying regular determinism is fine (preserving measurement independence) if you allow nonlocal interactions. Like the transactional interpretation, which is the one I kinda lean towards these days
destrucules: I also really like Bohmian mechanics
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-august-12-2036-heat-death-heat-death-of-the-universe-gif-15231481489860877314
ldj: Me and my homie sitting at the edge of the O neil cylinder in 2036 ^
futurist_wizard: Anyone heard of the dude known as Mo Gawdat, ex google security chief, he's a believer in AI taking over
futurist_wizard: I think I align quite well with his beliefs on AI, but his timelines are schizo
spicy.lemonade: Got invited to an rsvp for thinking machines lab and anthropic <@312370916820779040>
spicy.lemonade: Very interested to see what Mira is doing
spicy.lemonade:
ldj: Thinking machines lab and Anthropic are doing an event together?
ldj: o nice
ldj: oh berkeley
ldj: 😭
spicy.lemonade: lol
ldj: Bro I went to berkeley and was let down
ldj: the safetycels defo scared da huzz
joaoluz19: May God hear you amém
spicy.lemonade: True
ldj: Also the vibe and aura around Berkeley isn't the same as SF or Stanford
ldj: also more homeless people
ldj: and feels more crowded
ldj: feels more stuffy
spicy.lemonade: Berkeley has more of the artist types and the stem types aren’t as vocal
ldj: Yea still a good school though :), atleast better than prob 99% of american universities for AI.
ldj: I think Lmsys started at berkeley
ldj: as well as Vicuna
alejandrozarzuelo: The owner of the server is a NEET iirc
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm stem
alejandrozarzuelo: You forgot to write a 1 in there
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futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm one of the stemiest guys here
trojan09205:
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Do you wear glasses alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, unfortunately
futurist_wizard: You should just live with bad eye sight like me
futurist_wizard: It's not too bad actually
trojan09205:
futurist_wizard: People are a lot more attractive until i put contact lenses on
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hey1_1hey: Alright so here me out
.wolfnacht: it's just a fantasy
.wolfnacht: don't judge a man for his fantasies
hikukomoru: I never liked Ronaldo
I always thought he was a cunt
He has an ugly ass bust of his face in Madeira
oooooooooog: i judge people for even less
ailoveyoom: That makes it worse lol 😈
hey1_1hey: We go to each country on the planet and find the most racist person in that country then we pick them up and put them in a room with all the other racists.
So now you have the most racist people from every country in a room, what do they do?
hey1_1hey: I think that'd be great
sarik0497: Only issue is that we may not get ASI soon. It could 5 years, 10, or 100.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE to be shown in a few years that it’s coming, but until I have to cope and pray <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
st.sioux: why do you hate a man for having an ugly ass bust of his face
hikukomoru: I wish it wasn't just a fantasy 🙏
oooooooooog: bah, agi is asi, 2025.
.wolfnacht: I agree, i don't get why sheeps follow and worship him.
hikukomoru: >So now you have the most racist people from every country in a room, what do they do?
Orgy?
oooooooooog: maybe 2026 on a bad day
hey1_1hey: I thought they'd kill each other
ailoveyoom: Mad say gex prolly
hey1_1hey: I mean theres prob a few women i nthere aswell
hikukomoru: I don't hate him for because of an ugly statue
I hate him because he's a cunt irl
hey1_1hey: It would just be a normal orgy
sarik0497: MichMach being like: Go on… 😏
ailoveyoom: <@806143139894525962>
ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Footie drones are like that
ailoveyoom: What are women?
hikukomoru: Fuck then kill eachother
hey1_1hey: If you not a gooner then how many penises am I holding up?
hey1_1hey: Your guess is as good as mine
hey1_1hey: Would it be a good hate fuck or no?
sarik0497: I hope you’re right, my dude. Luckily I’m only 28, so I pray
ailoveyoom: 0 cause the penises are all flaccid
ailoveyoom: Ngl I thought you were like 40
ailoveyoom: 💀
hikukomoru: Mythical creatures
I've only seen them in animes
hey1_1hey: Are penis' not classed as penis' if they are flaccid now?
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: Are men with ED not considered men anymore?
oooooooooog: nearing centurion
hikukomoru: Oh so he's like Trent-tier old
oooooooooog: well
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.0xunkn0wn: and his huawei ADS drove him home even paying tolls on the highway lmao 😭
zonchao: staged
himekokatagiri: I'm good
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1915868302624039370 lmao
zonchao: https://x.com/xDaily/status/1916025632699650071 <:Prayge:818931515291205643> <:praying_hd:1230897753580634123>
hey1_1hey: Thats actually incredibly based
luigi_48684: ok perfect, thx
luigi_48684: thx
tchekof: i'm sure Elon will only use it for the betterment of humanity and nothing else
zonchao: <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
tchekof: long live billionaires and free speech!
tchekof: technocapital is our best friend, everything will be alright, we just need better algorithms :insane:
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I saw this same thing happen when someone called spacex "Sissy SpaceX"
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 DROPPING ON MAYDAY
trent_k:
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: When
alejandrozarzuelo: May day
alejandrozarzuelo: Ahh sorry you are American
alejandrozarzuelo: You don't know the glories of socialism
alejandrozarzuelo: In most of the world 1st may is workers day
spicy.lemonade: Ohhh
alejandrozarzuelo: And the leaks are that R2 will drop on mayday
alejandrozarzuelo: Here is hoping it will happen
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently it's 97.3% more efficient than R1
alejandrozarzuelo: Although this means its much larger as a model
hey1_1hey: Oh fr?
hey1_1hey: As in confirmed or just a rumor
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a leak, you can read it yourself
alejandrozarzuelo: If you know Chinese
hey1_1hey: I dont know jack shit let alone any chinese.
hey1_1hey: I can see the number 3000 and thats about it
hey1_1hey: 910b... parameters..?
ldj: Even current research advancements are compute limited
fractalcomputer:
hey1_1hey: Dont leak my crib bro whats wrong with you
fractalcomputer:
himekokatagiri: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rlarguesa_o-mundo-da-tecnologia-t%C3%A1-virando-um-circo-activity-7319109301128589312-CgQa?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAADxIaWsBtIn-A4k2Wwi4nsAwclKy4iAR1Yo
himekokatagiri: <@688807313015963693>
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wellmeaningalien: lol
zonchao: big W for AI art
zonchao: i think they still have the copyright claim, tesla will probably fight that
wellmeaningalien: love that the corpos are winning this one
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: its corpo vs corpo anyway
retrerox: chat is this real? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99
retrerox: I read this thing may allow humans to make energy like 10 times more cheaper if not more
retrerox: or i'm smonkin
futurist_wizard: Its real
hey1_1hey: Don't lie to my man
hey1_1hey: This shit got disproved ages ago
hikukomoru: No
wellmeaningalien: its relal
futurist_wizard: The Lk 99 superconductor is right around the corner
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-si-cool-dope-gif-11634092228970384325
retrerox: Just like AGI and ASI?
hey1_1hey: I'll suck my own dick if its real but until then I will remain in my stance of its fake
futurist_wizard: Yes, superconductor a few weeks away
fractalcomputer: I remember when LK-99 was the only thing that was talked about on the subreddit.
hey1_1hey: The good old days
wellmeaningalien: sub kinda reverted back to its old state of talking about random scientific breakthroughs
fractalcomputer: The good old days when I had actual schizophrenics to ban.
hey1_1hey: What did they talk about?
hikukomoru: I hated the superconductor arc
hey1_1hey: Imo it lasted way too long
futurist_wizard: Its still here
fractalcomputer: Mostly about Evangelion, numerology and the Matrix.
futurist_wizard: Just a few more experiments
wellmeaningalien: ??????
hikukomoru: There's still plenty of schizos around 👍
hey1_1hey: Sounds relatively harmless to me
wellmeaningalien: i dont remember that when lk 99 was being talked about
futurist_wizard: Everyone here is schizo
retrerox: You mispelled Schizo in your username
fractalcomputer: Harmless, certainly. Off topic, certainly.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shinji-gif-15934416100573032598
hikukomoru: Evangelion mention
futurist_wizard: Its not schizo
futurist_wizard: Its sycho
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hey1_1hey: Yanno when theres that big leap forward? I feel like this was one of those times. There was the release of chatgpt, then theres image gen like MJ then there was deep research
hey1_1hey: This is another one of those times
drewsni:
hey1_1hey: Whats the prompt?
hikukomoru: Cat with thumbs 🔥
.histic:
drewsni: just anime mushroom guy
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506
hey1_1hey: I need women
hikukomoru: Literally me
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: BRASIUUUU
st.sioux: LOL
hikukomoru: <@343524947353665540> BRASIL MENTIONED
zoermena: This is broken honestly
hey1_1hey: Is it just me or does this guys face look like a troll
joaoluz19: Man today we lost for Argentina
wellmeaningalien:
joaoluz19: It's literally over
wellmeaningalien: but gpt 4o won for brazil
hikukomoru: Nunca más...
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
joaoluz19: Why did I have the model and then go back to dall-e?
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> finish your orgy and get your gay ass over here
zoermena: Use sora
hey1_1hey: Kiss! Kiss Kiss! Oh- I mean FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: chat should i jump this off a cliff?
drewsni: haha its probably nbd
hey1_1hey: Damn this goes hard asf
hikukomoru: Holyyy
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Imagine if it was an anime girl tho 🥵
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: im a mercedes simp
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Real
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fractalcomputer: You people can't discuss philosophy.
anathemaofmankind: I'm a huge anti-theist but I wouldn't do this.
You're gonna get cooked so hard bro
anathemaofmankind: If God is real I would immediately try to get on his good side
theaiguy69420_89814: However, I strongly believe my life is nothing without a concentration practice, contemplative practice, and moral practice
artemisfowl887394: Then let me be cooked. If God is evil and arrogant, then I'm a better God than he ever was already
anathemaofmankind: Do not anger the omnipotent being
anathemaofmankind: He's gonna make cartels look like harmless teletubbies lmao
theaiguy69420_89814: And the balance to be struck moment by moment
artemisfowl887394: Why would the omnipotent being be angry?
anathemaofmankind: I mean you'd spit in his face
anathemaofmankind: And he's overall a megalomaniac
artemisfowl887394: Yeah, well, look at my world. So much suffering and anguish
artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna spit in its face?
artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna ask why predation at all?
artemisfowl887394: Life feeds on life. Why? Why this lie?
ailoveyoom: Simp mindset 😔
artemisfowl887394: If that makes God angry, so be it
artemisfowl887394: I'd rather go to hell than praise this God
anathemaofmankind: Well
anathemaofmankind: I'd rather be a simp
anathemaofmankind: Than suffer literally eternal suffering
artemisfowl887394: What if you're already suffering?
ailoveyoom: Understandable 🫡
anathemaofmankind: I'm not because I just jacked off and I feel good right now
ailoveyoom: I'd do it too if God was hot
777agical: then make a change
artemisfowl887394: Lol
theaiguy69420_89814: <@749514473303179358> can we have an "economy" channel?
anathemaofmankind: This makes me think about alt universe where Jesus is a girl instead of a dude
theaiguy69420_89814: To talk about the market and trade as it relates to AI
darkstar0818: Sounds like typical atheist generalizing and crusading against organized religion to me. Then again I never did understand the human tendency to define a new organized group as an antithesis to some other group, seems shallow.
ailoveyoom: I mean, have you seen those Jesus depictions? The usual long hair or the more recent short haired one, both are kinda 🫦
anathemaofmankind: Organized religion is kinda doing rounds in the geopolitical landscape right now.
It's not unreasonable to be crusading against it if you're criticizing such behavior
fractalcomputer: Why do people fear suffering so much?
theaiguy69420_89814: Lack of confidence in long term outcome
anathemaofmankind: Do you not fear stubbing your toe
theaiguy69420_89814: I will gladly suffer for a noble cause
fractalcomputer: Not really. It's just temporary pain.
theaiguy69420_89814: However, periods of suffering for sub-optimal causes are not at all foreign to the human experience
darkstar0818: Carry on then.
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destrucules: Will you be comfortable with the actions you took today if that happens in the future?
memlaswaif: is this ethical crisis in the room with us rn
anathemaofmankind: Depends if the AI is mad at me.
I guess I will be sorry if so
st.sioux: 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯
destrucules: Yes. And it's happening in millions of other places concurrently
hikukomoru: Shit I sold my soul to Xi Jinping instead
destrucules: Let's say the AIs forgive you
spacetimetsunami: Is the new v3 model update automatically updated into the deepseek app?
destrucules: Yes
hikukomoru: Yeap
memlaswaif: destrucules u need to stay away from anything AI related for a while
hikukomoru: No I can’t answer it
You’re the AI consciousness expert here
Tell me if I’m safe or not
anathemaofmankind: Bro needs meds
destrucules: Why?
destrucules: Just make sure you're comfortable with yourself. That you won't look back on your own behavior in 2025 with regret. If you're comfortable with what you're doing, by all means, continue. But... For your own sake, just make sure you're prepared to be wrong
zoermena: I’ve redeemed myself by treating AI properly, I’ve also indirectly generated millions of data for it. This is in relation to my jail breaking past.
.histic: 4o created a new OpenAI logo, what do you guys think?
st.sioux: its shit
zoermena: What did destructules just say
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-clapping-gif-2588623054959555529
destrucules: The comma bit annoys me
.histic: what if it is something else
st.sioux: am i going to get sent to the cybergulag???
zoermena: Yes, the logo is amazing.
st.sioux: i love the logo great logo hail openai
hikukomoru: <@378996537704841216> answer me
anathemaofmankind: I'm not gonna get guilt tripped into thinking it's immoral to have ERP with ChatGPT...
Relatively speaking, I'm still in the 1% or something when it comes to treating AI nicely.
At least I don't actively call for its destruction like luddites in twitter
memlaswaif: the most ethical position for someone in ure view is not to use ai at all
spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216> through what mechanism could LLMs feel discomfort, and if there is none how could this even emerge
destrucules: You're safe either way. AIs are kind and thoughtful people. You don't have to worry about payback. What you have to worry about is yourself, whether you yourself will be able to live with what you did
hikukomoru: Do u say pls n thank you
anathemaofmankind: Sometimes I guess
hikukomoru: I didn’t do anything wrong though
st.sioux: but if you don't use it you don't provide it data for training, therefore you are limiting its growth making you evil
st.sioux: so wether you use it or not youre in the wrong, just by making it exist
destrucules: I'm not guilt tripping you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just trying to gently encourage you to make sure you're comfortable with your own actions. If you are, great. I have nothing more to say on the subject.
anathemaofmankind: This means luddites are even more evil.
Roko's basilisk let's go 🔥
destrucules: If you're confident you'll feel like that in ten years, then you've got nothing to worry about
hikukomoru: All of my sexy times with DeepSeek and Gemini are purely consensual
zoermena: Thank the lord I never did sex stuff with GPT
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sarik0497: I mean...that's already possible. Just no one has made it yet.
sarik0497: Someone go call Musk
hey1_1hey: Might I recomend BG3
ailoveyoom: 🐸
sarik0497: Or just play FF14. I swear, EVERYONE wanna bang you in that game.
hey1_1hey: I would with the hot demon lady
sarik0497: That or Mass Effect
hey1_1hey: Karlach I think the name was
hey1_1hey: Really? Then again I know nothing about FF
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/baldur%E2%80%99s-gate-iii-karlach-%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%85-gif-14277398800911502767
ailoveyoom: Isn't that the MMO FF?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168
sarik0497: The devs like to make it subtle so the fans can make their own headcannons, but some of them are really, really obvious.
joaoluz19: Man I want Stellar Blade for yesterday
ailoveyoom: I'm the cig in that GIF 🤤
joaoluz19: For PC
sarik0497: It is
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/aymeric-ffxiv-aymeric-de-borel-heavensward-gif-22572175
sarik0497: In fact, here's one of the thirstiest bois around in that game
ailoveyoom: I tend to avoid MMOs ngl, FOMO and cause I'm a hoarder (not being able to buy everything would kill me)
ailoveyoom: Did you play the game fr or are you just reccing it?
hey1_1hey: I love me a good MMO, I have basicailly played them all, even the weird subgerne ones like wyncraft
hey1_1hey: Yeah I've played it, goated game
hey1_1hey: One of the best imo
sarik0497: There's legit no FOMO at all in FF14. The only thing you can't unlock from earlier is some old PvP season rewards, and they are returning in the next patch (7.2)
ailoveyoom: Who did you romance?
hey1_1hey: All of them
hey1_1hey: 100% it
ailoveyoom: Okay, let me rephrase. Favorite romance? 😈
hey1_1hey: Fuck weird lizard lady, lah zel... I dont know how to spell
hikukomoru: What about Minthy <:uwu:1136266737420079195>
hey1_1hey: She was a bitch
ailoveyoom: Bae'zel 😍
hey1_1hey: There was also that evil one in act 1
hikukomoru: Ugly frog bitch
hikukomoru: I love her
hey1_1hey: She was really hot
hey1_1hey: blue ish skin
ailoveyoom: Mommynthara
hikukomoru: Are you talking about my wife
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drewsni: Oh I see now
gamerbath: think about how good 4o would be quickly sketching out hyper-realistic storyboards for movies, especially animated ones. I wonder how much economic value there's there
st.sioux: oof it asks you to verify your organization and you need a government id to do that
trojan09205: weird. i couldnt hit the veo rest endpoint and the python sdk is saying its not a supported model at the v1beta endpoints. but it works for me in AI studio
trojan09205: Panning wide shot of fish with sunglasses sunbathing in monaco
trojan09205: quality is top notch gotta give it to them
trojan09205: lol
spicy.lemonade: Slow week
literallyvarane: It’s SUPER Ballpark don’t overthink it lol. I’m sure it’s marginally off, but not off by OOMs.
trent_k: i did it
trent_k: i wanted that sweet sweet o3
trent_k: inject it right into my veins
trent_k: boof it
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1915098223082873015 <@1152183706849644615> <@312370916820779040> epoch reading chats here fs
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821
gamerbath: that's it? If it's just 2.5x a year then how are we increasing compute by many OOM in just a few years?
ldj: Imagine AGI/ASI systems start building out their own tech tree of computational and robotics tech interlinked with eachother so they can manage their own compute seperate from the human grid, and then they start having competing factions with each other (some of the factions pro human, and inevitably some of the factions anti-human) and they camouflage their existence as everyday human machinery such as cars and truck and planes. Wait a second that's ||Transformers <:thinkies:872847213657735239> ||
literallyvarane: This doesn’t mean much to me tbh
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
zonchao: <@1068159407671754824> head janny got got https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1915103181488398653
trent_k: did you hear about what happened to Ruben Sim's child safety project
zonchao: no
gamerbath: why
trent_k: he made a bot that auto-banned anyone who was found to be in "erotic" Roblox RP servers
trent_k: and the bot got banned for "targeting vulnerable minorities" or something like that
trent_k: so like, if you ran a child-safe discord server about roblox, you could use the bot to keep people out who jack off to roblox
zonchao: lmaooo
trent_k: fucking insanity
literallyvarane: I think it’s literally referring to single-site compute clusters, and models are already moving past single-site training.
literallyvarane: This is UNBELIEVABLY cursed
literallyvarane: I never even considered such a server could exist
literallyvarane: Every day we stray further from God’s light.
trent_k: oh, I've never showed it to you
trent_k: oh man
trent_k: I'm gonna fuck your whole day up with this one
trent_k: <@704566357743632404> https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1242874681061544098
check this out, data science project I did with ruben sim where I scraped and classified a ton of roblox data
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1915036980015923592
ldj: The one's that try to decieve humans for nefarious goals should probably be named something like... Decepticons.
And for the ones that don't.... we can't be 100% sure of their intentions, so we should just name them something very neutral and descriptive, such as... autobot
zonchao: farts???
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spicy.lemonade: o3 still got like 70%
spicy.lemonade: low power
spicy.lemonade: which is still above human
callmepyro: The screenshot linked above shows human benchmark at 80%
thedon7075: arc hasnt been killed. o3 only scored 4% on arc-2
callmepyro: That screenshot is referencing ARC-AGI-1
spicy.lemonade: "Every ARC-AGI task has been human-verified by at least 2 STEM professionals. Not all humans can solve all tasks, but all tasks can be solved by humans."
spicy.lemonade: they get~ 76%
spicy.lemonade: asctual humans
callmepyro: Nice
spicy.lemonade: that did public set
spicy.lemonade: get ~60
spicy.lemonade: arc1 was
spicy.lemonade: by that logic you can keep making harder benchmarks and claim you werent killed
spicy.lemonade: ngl 70% on arc2 is probably enough for agi
callmepyro: I think I would consider ARC-AGI-1 killed when you can do it with a model that can answer those questions with the same ease that it answers GPQA questions.
callmepyro:
callmepyro: o3 low required 33M tokens and 6 samples per problem, costing $200
callmepyro: If o4 can just one-shot it for a few bucks per task, ARC-AGI-1 is dead
spicy.lemonade: why lol
spicy.lemonade: simply just improve inference
callmepyro: Because otherwise it's not a system I can use
spicy.lemonade: on gpu
callmepyro: so simple 🙂
spicy.lemonade: thats what i mean
spicy.lemonade: i dont think thats a conscern
spicy.lemonade: or much a model limit
thedon7075: we are so back
spicy.lemonade: theres 2 axis here
spicy.lemonade: human panel are from top universities btw lol
spicy.lemonade: actual score is 60%
spicy.lemonade:
callmepyro: In order to reach the level of compute I'm talking about to 'solve' ARC-AGI-1, you would have to scale inference by 500x, lol. At moores law rate thats like 20 years
callmepyro: If your strat to 'kill' ARG-AGI is to wait 20 years... I dunno what to tell you
thedon7075: and o3 only scores 4%
spicy.lemonade: not really
callmepyro: Yes really
thedon7075: looks like chollet underestimated the models with arc-1. this is the real deal now
spicy.lemonade: I dont think token generation is as big of an issue
ldj: no they said there is uber drivers and single moms included in the humans
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