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zonchao: i hope it doesnt leak anything important hikukomoru: I tried watching One Piece but got bored like 12 episodes in I only had the patience to watch the cock edits maintcrew: ye its the type of thing u watch while young then it jsut sticks with you maintcrew: bc it starts to go hard like 300-400 episodes in hikukomoru: Autistic people just do nazi salutes from time to time It's natural zonchao: maintcrew: i dont think id be able to watch dragonball z if i wasnt a kid/with a kid maintcrew: not even joking it takes a developing mind to like it for a while hikukomoru: Damn Imagine having to wait 400 episodes for a show to get good maintcrew: it do go hard afterwards tho maintcrew: and i started watching at like 14 it literally been with me all my life futurist_wizard: I usually get off one or two sieg heils a day because autism but Elon's was quite excessive, three sieg heils in under 30 seconds!? futurist_wizard: Can only mean one thing maintcrew: he was stimming out maintcrew: rip elmo zonchao: he was saying "my heart goes out to you" to people behind him zonchao: https://x.com/RealEsraPertly/status/1918042483587506517 lmao a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/makima-chainsaw-man-csm-opening-op-gif-26930721 shirethedreamer: you keep repeating it like people dont have eyes lmao zonchao: a1c4p0ne: ldj: GPT-4o starting to act more proactive ldj: <:e_think:871265859199459358> spicy.lemonade: we arent getting those till 3 weeks ldj: zonchao: <a:pepe_sus:766101674577100840> spicy.lemonade: eh a1c4p0ne: Frostwind is Google spicy.lemonade: oh shirethedreamer: damn recognized the common theme recognized that its not a static status quo but an evolving situation offered to agentically update it over time (can it even do that?) im super impressed spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: left was frostwind spicy.lemonade: right was claude 3.7 gamerbath: what's frostwind? gamerbath: finally got to watching it and I think this is one of the best rational animations video ever made futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: Reminds of that side by side video comparison of a robot getting trashed in the USA vs robot stuck in snow being helped in Russia futurist_wizard: Americans are literally cave people futurist_wizard: Russia could be such a good country, it's such a shame it's held captive literallyvarane: I mean there are also very real general population issues there beyond politics lol.
maintcrew: as in advanced players get an intuition of what to do simply by doing it a lot spicy.lemonade: anyone who says interviews are dumb is coping imo. its like saying tests are dumb and dont show your true capability in x field. sure but thats not the point drewsni: st.sioux: you can literally memorize the entirety of leetcode and you will get any job its so stupid spicy.lemonade: just as you can memorize tests spicy.lemonade: like sat spicy.lemonade: also no you cant memorize alll of leetcode maintcrew: goes hard af spicy.lemonade: people usualy remember the most used heuristics spicy.lemonade: the SAT is still used as a metric spicy.lemonade: even though you can grind it st.sioux: ive interviewed people who pretend like they havent seen the leetcode problem before and pretend like they're thinking about it st.sioux: so cringe st.sioux: honestly maintcrew: i mean from my perspective st.sioux: but whatever i dont make the process maintcrew: you can maxx all of leetcode but can you fix a kernel bug spicy.lemonade: you do not remember 3131 problems st.sioux: you can 100% spicy.lemonade: jobs often have secondaries spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: if you do then you remember the process spicy.lemonade: at that point spicy.lemonade: realistically spicy.lemonade: lol joaoluz19: LOLOLOLOL made with 4o spicy.lemonade: youre not memorizing maintcrew: i think it's just different perspectives here since lemonade is a competitive programmer st.sioux: you can at least remember 1. the name, 2. the difficulty, 3. the algorithm st.sioux: thats all you need joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> <@439829942310666250> <@430269783112548362> drewsni: agi? spicy.lemonade: the name? hey1_1hey: WHAT HAPPNED TO SAM BRO hey1_1hey: AGI confirmed hey1_1hey: Finally it can make the wine nearly overfilled spicy.lemonade: scramble string spicy.lemonade: Given an m x n board of characters and a list of strings words, return all words on the board. Each word must be constructed from letters of sequentially adjacent cells, where adjacent cells are horizontally or vertically neighboring. The same letter cell may not be used more than once in a word. hey1_1hey: I am begging to get image gen. I have so many ideas joaoluz19: Mushrooms mushrooms mushrooms
brain4brain: GPT-4o is doing a thinking before generating, but I do wonder if a larger model will be able to one-shot this without prior thinking .histic: MJ is its own thing. in the last months i haven't heard anyone hyping up MJ or talking about it. seems like a closed-off premium art generator only for the few. mihrcelium: MJ is still excellent for producing unique art involving intensive and extensive multiprompts and several passes, and not just "make this in the style of this" simple type generations. okbut: I have to throttle myself, I'm already on Gemini Grok and Copilot Grok is good enough minus the text so far mihrcelium: "premium art generator" is an apt descriptor, aye. anathemaofmankind: 4o can do this better though? brain4brain: MJ moat is vibe brain4brain: And sref exploration brain4brain: Quality is no longer their moat anathemaofmankind: But the vibes look trash to me anathemaofmankind: Their moat is retarded customers lol brain4brain: brain4brain: Real, which is why I said its over for midjourney brain4brain: SD’s LoRa have better style tbh, if you choose the right one anathemaofmankind: To think it was considered the best quality AI generator before brain4brain: GPT-4o also seems to be reverse engineering the MJ moat brain4brain: The fall of a giant brain4brain: A lesson for Apple okbut: I think it's doing both: Rewriting a more descriptive prompt before the image gen, + using a tool for separating "layers" when it's appropriate after image gen Citing the fact that it can generate images with layers, while leaving behind imperfect artifacts okbut: okbut: Notice the "transparency" checkers are still in the 2nd image drewsni: ive read a lot of discussion about how it works from a lot of really smart people and nobody really knows yet tbh drewsni: people have a general idea, but we dont know for sure okbut: I wonder why they haven't bothered to offload text inclusions with such a function yet spicy.lemonade: good at ilustrating competative programming problems spicy.lemonade: conscidering not reasoner okbut: The spacial awareness for the numbers in the last panel is impressive okbut: Upside down inverted mihrcelium: Yeah? How would you get 4o to take the first abstract and transform it into the abstract portraits here, in a style that could be consistently reproduced and iteratively modified over and over again? anathemaofmankind: Just ask it? anathemaofmankind: Have you used 4o .histic: imagine GPT-5 being multimodal w/ image creation capabilities. mihrcelium: My dude, I have an OAI pro sub and I was one of the initial MJ alpha testers. <a:PepeNoHappy:1136619141101539418> st.sioux: rich person spotted mihrcelium: MJ isn't as special as it used to be, for sure. But it still has a niche, and a lot of utility for creative output. okbut: https://tenor.com/view/broke-fairlyoddparents-burning-money-gif-4486655 okbut: >I have an OAI pro sub okbut: I remember OAI seeming to scramble to throw Pro subs more features after Grok was released with DeepSearch and their arm was twisted to give (Deep Research) to Plus users too drewsni: ya....well i had an oai pro sub before any of you .histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvBz8A1OTAQ this is what the average luddite looks like.
spicy.lemonade: actually more impressive spicy.lemonade: than og showcase zoermena: EOY I suspect we will also get a decent bump in quality with Sora where we can animate images to have this Harry Potter style effect where they slightly move more naturally spicy.lemonade: sora moment for this will be insane zoermena: It just has to get better at animating, we just need to feed the images zonchao: yes spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 will be insane fr spicy.lemonade: openAI has a high standard spicy.lemonade: for release brain4brain: EOY I suspect AI will be able to produce full-length Hollywood level quality movie/ fate level animation with all the visuals and script brain4brain: Right after getting access to 4o output I also thought of making it make a YouTube thumbnail for the singularity, crazy signal, great minds think alike brain4brain: I got switch and bait, right after getting access to 4o native image gen, I’m now stuck with dalle again spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: 2027 spicy.lemonade: brain4brain: He is right and wrong at the same time brain4brain: The world seems to suddenly forget about GPT-4o 3D modality spicy.lemonade: _cloudost: "It's not real intelligent guys, its just predicting the next token!" spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: the tech availale at the end of this year spicy.lemonade: will be mind blowing spicy.lemonade: jan first we had spicy.lemonade: no o3 mini high spicy.lemonade: or deepseek spicy.lemonade: or deepresearch spicy.lemonade: or operator spicy.lemonade: etc destrucules: Lmao imagine if they drop Claude 4 Opus: 2x cost of GPT-4.5 2x effective compute of GPT-4.5 10x slower than GPT-4.5 Images + text in, text out. Really good at coding. ailoveyoom: Does this mean it can solve circuit stuff better now? spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: if i tell it to add a resitor in parrallel to ldr spicy.lemonade: it fails spicy.lemonade: needs better image reasoning _cloudost: https://vxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1905025427384807617 even Musk is using OpenAI's model ailoveyoom: When will the ghibli slop end 😭 ailoveyoom: 4o.5 (with reasoning) when ailoveyoom: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ailoveyoom: 4o4 spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro planetary simulator
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think you are a very passionate and emotional person futurist_wizard: Math Rizz alejandrozarzuelo: but alejandrozarzuelo: idk alejandrozarzuelo: maybe ailoveyoom: Enemies to lovers 🥺 fractalcomputer: Emotions can be faked. hikukomoru: Isn't it just a smex app alejandrozarzuelo: you personally seem drier than the sahara alejandrozarzuelo: but who am i to judge as i dont know you futurist_wizard: The people that are attracted to that app are deranged hikukomoru: I would use HER but it's filled with men alejandrozarzuelo: you say this as this wasnt the same phenomenon in all dating apps fractalcomputer: Sure. That's because I put up no pretense on here. You talk to homosexuals in real life, you pretend you feel about the current thing just as much as they do and you text with them about meaningless things. popsiclejohnithan: You will truly never know the people behind these screens until you meet them in person, text is text, only a fraction of the real deal. futurist_wizard: It is different alejandrozarzuelo: ._. if i speak i am in big trouble so i wont futurist_wizard: Why is there a he him option on HER fractalcomputer: You can judge me if you'd like. popsiclejohnithan: I bet you're literally Lovecraft resurrected irl. alejandrozarzuelo: I dont think i would get very well along with him as a friend let alone as a partner he isnt my romantic or friend type that is ok, not everyone needs to be your type on either sense popsiclejohnithan: Thick skin is good skin. hikukomoru: Because it's not actually a lesbian app It's basically for anyone that isn't a cis man Which is why the app got invaded by men Cuz they don't want to discriminate against "masculine" people or whatever fractalcomputer: Most human interaction, I find, is a rather hollow affair. fractalcomputer: Perhaps in some sense I am only monologuing to the nothingness beyond my senses even now. popsiclejohnithan: It's a pain when you can't find anyone to connect with or relate to man. fractalcomputer: I don't know. futurist_wizard: I think you can even be a cis man on it, idk I'm just seeing sc's of profiles where it seems to be just a guy with he him pronouns popsiclejohnithan: You prefer keeping to yourself? Introvert? That's fair honestly. alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, you can't tell the difference between cis and trans men fractalcomputer: I'm not an introvert either. I'm just saying I wouldn't know what you're referring to. hikukomoru: I don't even care anymore tbh At this point we're used to having our own spaces get invaded by men alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, if you claim to be passionate, by this as a confession it shows you cannot be, merely pretend to precariousworlds.: 4o is comically misaligned what the fuck is going on lol how did they get it this wrong popsiclejohnithan: Oh right fair enough. fractalcomputer: Curious enough. futurist_wizard: Eh, I'd say there are some tells, especially with voices, but you can't other times, it's the same with trans women _3sphere: It's either an experiment because they can or a real-time RLHF gone wrong hikukomoru: When they start acting creepy and sending you unsolicited dick pics you can tell popsiclejohnithan: Literally Yes Man from Fallout New Vegas, they are forced to agree with you no matter what.
.histic: i think you can get the gist. wellmeaningalien: i dont see how v7 is better than 4o here .histic: look at v7's right ear. there's two spicy.lemonade: Midjourney is dead wellmeaningalien: lol wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: hilarious cope attempt from midjourney employees spicy.lemonade: And they have shit rate limits spicy.lemonade: And prices spicy.lemonade: It’s over spicy.lemonade: Just cancel .histic: lol wellmeaningalien: i'll admit tho wellmeaningalien: some of that midjourney shit is proof that graphic design and illustrator jobs are dead like officially .wolfnacht: left looks like zuck's mom when it comes to facial symmetry and eyes. wellmeaningalien: like when these tools can make passable if not beautiful artworks most of the time wellmeaningalien: and people who have 0 graphic design knowledge can work them as they please and get whatever result they please .wolfnacht: *i got chills watching these* wellmeaningalien: i've already been seeing my mall using dall e 3 for most posters wellmeaningalien: and dall e 3 on a tech shop wellmeaningalien: many shops i've seen it use dall e 3 wellmeaningalien: and it's shit but sometimes its passable. but thhis shit is the nail in the coffin for professional graphic design, along with ideogram 3 and gpt 4o wellmeaningalien: <:ZUNsmile:296290216438923265> hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474 hikukomoru: I already cheer for the CCP wellmeaningalien: leftists when evil imperialist america do something: ai evil <a:angry:1144076758363144302> wellmeaningalien: leftists when nice imperialist china do something: haha ai took ai's job 😸 czdct: yeah gpt 4o might actually kill off graphic design for good czdct: especially with how good it is at text and editing czdct: same for photoshop wellmeaningalien: 4o's sheer ability to understand your prompt in a high level thinking manner and independently take it's actions to create intricate images faithful to your prompts with accurate details czdct: it's already better than what 80% of graphic designers will make wellmeaningalien: it's the nail in the coffin for graphic designers and illustrators wellmeaningalien: yup wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/vince-carter-its-over-done-finished-its-finish-gif-17214651 wellmeaningalien: hol on hol on tho wellmeaningalien: amy u seen ideogram 3 czdct: especially in chatgpt, really blew me away how it even started asking me for specifics on the image czdct: no not yet czdct: is it good?
metaldragon01: The digital world will have more space, more experiences and richer lives tbh ailoveyoom: Does a small vs a big FDVR pod size difference matter? futurist_wizard: The digital world at least from a human perspective have unlimited hecking space futurist_wizard: Especially if we turn mars into a giant computer futurist_wizard: Like i want to futurist_wizard: That would be so hecking awesome sauce himekokatagiri: why don't they fit himekokatagiri: do you want me to give her a trenchcoat himekokatagiri: I made one without the hat but fucked her hair and eye color up hikukomoru: Please stop saying hecking I'm getting the strongest urge to strangle you futurist_wizard: I know your weak spot now little bitch, you are flippin cornered zoermena: Interesting hikukomoru: Now that 4chan is back I was just reminded how much of a shithole /v/ is zoermena: Sybau 🥀 hikukomoru: They can't enjoy anything hikukomoru: Only complain hikukomoru: I will HECKIN break your fingers just so you can stop typing like that hikukomoru: Green suit doesn't fit the black hat hikukomoru: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? Smh lol atp js go 💔... b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm lmao, bt ts pmo 2 js lmk lol onb fr, ac nvm b wt istg ts vro keys🙏💔 ts pmo himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: This was the original himekokatagiri: I'll ask gpt to fix it zoermena: <:CatShock:665362219134877696> himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: This one is nicer hikukomoru: That hat looks kind of sus zonchao: ngl I dont believe in FDVR but maybe ASI can do it himekokatagiri: But the eyes are wrong hikukomoru: Y'know, black military cap with a skull on it... himekokatagiri: I just used a reference hikukomoru: Why is Himeko a SS officer himekokatagiri: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881277156330729512/1365746990587318313/199119.png?ex=680e6e80&is=680d1d00&hm=1bd4d63bff66f41e6fd217ddf3090f8bf61bd6f3e21c5c2fa596bc19c28a95d9& himekokatagiri: This is the reference I used fractalcomputer: himekokatagiri: I'll try to fix it but my limit is shot hikukomoru: Why don't you belive in FDVR hikukomoru: Just use another account himekokatagiri: That's unethical hikukomoru: So what hikukomoru: Ethics are retarded
spicy.lemonade: Oh lol ailoveyoom: BRO that's why I love Claude so much, he understands the character(s) 🥺 Usually for me, sex is just a very exaggerated way to experience 'character'. But with Claude, I don't really need that anymore. .histic: Claude is the goat <:redemption:1136265386984222771> spicy.lemonade: Was going to make a joke spicy.lemonade: But I’ll just say I was gonna make a joke oooooooooog: yellow science is like yellow journalism oooooooooog: it's making a molehill out of a microscope ailoveyoom: It's so funny tho, Claude is perhaps the best model at erotica lmfao ailoveyoom: In terms of like, sexy erotica. Trashy erotica is Grok's field oooooooooog: just use your own brain for that lol oooooooooog: surely you know your own desires more than an AI spacetimetsunami: Not for long oooooooooog: true ailoveyoom: But Claude mkes it sound fancy with prose and gives it spice with character 🥺 spacetimetsunami: I know oooooooooog: can't you do that???? spacetimetsunami: I’m gonna love seeing you get banned hikukomoru: Bro stop deleting your shit oooooooooog: for some reason all my recent writing in in second person, idk why. i just can't write anything else oooooooooog: pretty sure it's still logged in mod logs ailoveyoom: My left hand is busy oooooooooog: i write with a single finger on my phone... no excuses smh. oooooooooog: what? oooooooooog: it's not that, it's just nobody has anything to say spacetimetsunami: Also, nobody really likes the creep oooooooooog: your profile looks like subaru from spongebob oooooooooog: only from far away though hikukomoru: subaru??? spacetimetsunami: Tons by your standard. You try and make friends by showing gore to people? spacetimetsunami: Who sounds like the weirdo here oooooooooog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSnX_RyWM1g oooooooooog: personally i get all my meme knowledge from LIMC brain4brain: Next week he might cover the YouTube colonization or the great meme dihpression oooooooooog: he already covered YT colinization brain4brain: Yes brain4brain: Oh wow spicy.lemonade: Bro vibe coding is even more insane now with native image spicy.lemonade: For a 2d game spicy.lemonade: So can make the sprites spicy.lemonade: And animations
apology0759: However, I really want to share with you a horror story I wrote before. That is why I want to DM you. The server banned self-promotion. fractalcomputer: Reasonable. fractalcomputer: Sure, send me it. fractalcomputer: My personal style of writing horror is a bit too surrealistic to make for lengthier stories. drewsni: I still don’t know what restrictions they Introduced a1c4p0ne: I’m glad I didn’t resub a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> hey1_1hey: I got access to it in the free tier now anyway <:LOL:1187460826572005436> a1c4p0ne: I thought it was delayed for a while for plebs hey1_1hey: Me to, here I am though a1c4p0ne: lol metaldragon01: None hey1_1hey: Maybe I was on sams nice list so he let me get in the first roll out hey1_1hey: I mean it wont let you generate copyrighted material metaldragon01: I've seen copywrite material generated today hey1_1hey: I've tried it starts generating and then when its about to finish it will deleate it and go "oopsie woopsie I can't generate copyrighted material sowwy 👉 👈 " metaldragon01: Just say yes you can... metaldragon01: Bare min prompt engineering metaldragon01: Most refusals are the model messing up hey1_1hey: I've tried that also it said it really cant although if it could it would hey1_1hey: It even used up one of my generations so now I cant try again <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> metaldragon01: New chat try again metaldragon01: Same or id do it now hey1_1hey: I'm out of gens now sadly. I mean I can try again but I doubt it will work drewsni: It actually lets me do Pokémon cards more than it did first 2 days drewsni: Wait what’s the gen limit wtf ailoveyoom: You bought Plus? metaldragon01: Maybe 5 an hour? hey1_1hey: 3 for free users hey1_1hey: a day hey1_1hey: Nop hey1_1hey: I am broke metaldragon01: Free gets 3 a day and seems like that's rolling out today .histic: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1906064958862823849 metaldragon01: Flash less censored now too hey1_1hey: .histic: wait wtf? rate limits are that bad rn? hey1_1hey: Thanks OpenAI for using up 2 of my 3 generations for the day and then saying I cant have more even though you refused my requests hey1_1hey: Big ups 👍 hey1_1hey: Yeah, 3 a day for free users
theaiguy69420_89814: Once you go pink, they have to take you off the rink technocake.: its all about learning to learn fast spicy.lemonade: 💀 spicy.lemonade: I wanted a PhD in Ai spicy.lemonade: No use spicy.lemonade: I graduate with bachelors in 2028 spicy.lemonade: Will have PhD ai researchers by then spicy.lemonade: Even if not technocake.: if you can cram for the hardest test in a day, you caaan learn anything in a day spicy.lemonade: PhD takes 4 more years spicy.lemonade: 2032 spicy.lemonade: Literally no point spicy.lemonade: Yeah spicy.lemonade: I learned 1 month of content in a day spicy.lemonade: Shits wild futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw?si=thPqqnVCxVUJTcZa This auto played on my phone futurist_wizard: Full volume spicy.lemonade: Imagine I studied a week before joaoluz19: You can't be sure of that spicy.lemonade: 2032? theaiguy69420_89814: Remember when I had 4 jobs? theaiguy69420_89814: I have 5 now spicy.lemonade: We already have ai better at coding joaoluz19: Yes theaiguy69420_89814: That's the power of AI spicy.lemonade: All it needs is math technocake.: do tell spicy.lemonade: And long context reasoning theaiguy69420_89814: A gentleman never kisses and tells technocake.: what jobs? futurist_wizard: School is an escape from the real world futurist_wizard: Its not all bad theaiguy69420_89814: Swe buddy technocake.: you're fucking over soulless corporations not fair maidens theaiguy69420_89814: I see technocake.: yeah i know its possible, entry level or what? theaiguy69420_89814: Senior buddy theaiguy69420_89814: Less work the higher you go technocake.: you just make a decision every so often that saves the company thousands futurist_wizard: Is that legal
hikukomoru: That's cool I just use earbuds or earphones when it's too loud outside hey1_1hey: From experince? jonvi_1: This is 4o.. None of the text is in the prompt technocake.: yes. hey1_1hey: I permenatly listen to music through my headphones futurist_wizard: There's clubs in London too, and they are fool of trash, like all clubs hey1_1hey: You would be shocked to see my ears hikukomoru: Get checked for autism king hey1_1hey: WAIT HOLD UP hey1_1hey: Questionaire for all of oyu technocake.: fold looks good though hikukomoru: British slags 🤮 zoermena: I might in some months. Right now I’m going to use my capital to get a new shower head and a better diet oooooooooog: does that mean u also can't listen to multiple music at once? or is it just because it's loud? hey1_1hey: When you look in the mirror, what od you see? Do you see your face? Or do you see your face AND your ears at the same time futurist_wizard: What do Portuguese girls look/act like hey1_1hey: Shit prob hikukomoru: It's both, loud music, and too much music at once oooooooooog: what if my hair blocks my ears hey1_1hey: You're trans? hey1_1hey: Idk bruh oooooooooog: no 💀 zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/looking-spiffy-dog-haircut-bad-haircut-gif-3038848003866845269 oooooooooog: i just have long hair 😭 hey1_1hey: What a defined genetle sir futurist_wizard: I couldn't believe when i heard a real valley girl accent in new york when i went there futurist_wizard: Sounded fake hikukomoru: Look like this usually hey1_1hey: I got a fringe but thats about it hey1_1hey: WOW futurist_wizard: Probably true hey1_1hey: This guy isn't human bro hey1_1hey: Fake mf futurist_wizard: You are balding hey1_1hey: Prob yeah futurist_wizard: At 18? hikukomoru: wait oog is trans? oooooooooog: no hey1_1hey: All that testosterone in me 💪 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 zoermena: Oog is oog
popsiclejohnithan: True. popsiclejohnithan: But you would be suprised how far people are willing to go. himekokatagiri: so sad himekokatagiri: We need full ASI control himekokatagiri: Let the cool shit happen in FDVR popsiclejohnithan: I know, people can do scary shit when they get radical, and i agree i think we are too chaotic to look after ourselves. himekokatagiri: I think the issue is people lump in all of humanity as one collective himekokatagiri: We don't look after ourselves -- the ruling class looks after us himekokatagiri: as in, they grind us up for pennies himekokatagiri: best case scenario is ASI takes over, strip those suckers out of their power and everyone will be equalish popsiclejohnithan: That's the hope. sarik0497: Exactly. I intend to continue my life as it is, with or without AI. I have set my expectations to 50/50 that AGI will be here by 2040-50. I don't think it'll be that long, but I don't wanna fuck myself over by waiting for something that might not come. sarik0497: The only thing I'm 90% sure will happen in 5-10 years will be the invention of a Virtual Cell. Demis Hassabis has yet to disappoint. literallyvarane: Is it good tho trojan09205: AI is fantastic for music recommendations trojan09205: Meta Raybans are clutch for that. Surprising that llama 3.1 has so much training data on music ldj: > add more and more models onto the current architecture It's not separate models btw, did you mean to say "modalities" and not "models"? It's all one model that can see, hear speak etc.. You're just sending more data into the same model .histic: haven't tested it much, need better problems. zoermena: <:HogScream:675065311946473492> himekokatagiri: can you prompt them himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/kQb9Lm2mRBk himekokatagiri: Ask for something sonically similar to this himekokatagiri: Let's see what it gives out .histic: https://deepai.org/chat/songs this seem okay. can't upload audio files though. himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: Honestly pretty accurate himekokatagiri: Bus stop kinda forgotten metaldragon01: New 4o update just dropped trojan09205: I will try it when im back at my glasses. As long as its a song it knows it can recommend similar ones trojan09205: I have it hooked to apple music so youtube songs for now it cant connect to himekokatagiri: Do we have a changelog metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1915902652703248679 metaldragon01: Just 4o in chatgpt not api metaldragon01: Last time was stealth 4.1 update alejandrozarzuelo: I live life as if AI didn't exist Why? Becsuse AIs impact will be the same onto me regardless of how much I prepare for it And I want to live life to the fullest in thr pre AGI world .histic: just "smarter", trust the vibes. lol trojan09205: Not to be a twat but you are in a singularity discord so its on your mind a lot 😅 alejandrozarzuelo: The kind of person with the most interesting life story is probably going to be a Chinese man born in the 70s alejandrozarzuelo: I mean in actions, as in, life plans trojan09205: Alright
trojan09205: Lol u arent exaggerating thats a shit ton of reports trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/mermaid-melody-pichi-pichi-cry-about-it-sob-seethe-gif-21116177 theaiguy69420_89814: Sorry, why? trent_k: basically the typical artist cope about how training an AI on something is the same as stealing it trent_k: you've heard it all before theaiguy69420_89814: Is it because this is another reminder to them that their efforts in memorizing Harry Potter's birthday was worthless? trent_k: AO3 is much weirder than that theaiguy69420_89814: I mean, typical artists aren't this hateful theaiguy69420_89814: I think they get the idea, it's a new tool, some of the stuff is theft, etc trent_k: it seems to me that most of AO3 is jack off material theaiguy69420_89814: This seems extreme theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, it seems like a group of troubled people that are desperately clinging onto a fake reality ldj: Be weary of what you see online ldj: The article isn’t an official post by Nous Research .0xunkn0wn: guys what do i do gemini 2.5 pro is rewriting too much shit 🙏 .0xunkn0wn: i asked it to fix me one line of code .0xunkn0wn: so it just rewrote the code completely 😭 .0xunkn0wn: even though the fix was easier a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:ez:1136267305521774634> trojan09205: Maybe try a more restrictive system prompt and low temperature hikukomoru: Omg I love AO3 not the community though trent_k: trent_k: lmfao hikukomoru: Yes AO3 is just smut hikukomoru: and fanfics .0xunkn0wn: what temperature himekokatagiri: doesn't AO3 rent their entire catalogue out himekokatagiri: even 'deleted' fics? zonchao: nous employee tho ldj: Even employees often don’t know what’s really going on if it hasn’t been made official yet trojan09205: Close to zero. Maybe try 0.25 zonchao: <:Prayge:818931515291205643> ldj: The real news is still good zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-27687064 sarik0497: <@312370916820779040> I'm curious about your perspective when it comes to current AI architecture. Do you think it's really enough for AGI, or do you think something like what Deepmind and Lecun are doing right now with their respective models are the way forward? drewsni: saw this in another discord "you have to understand when i write kylo x ron fic it's transformative work but when someone else uses my kylo x ron fic to feed yaoibot69 it is theft" hikukomoru: Toxic yuri bot 🤤 himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703> darkstar0818: There are a few things you can do. The easiest for large projects is being sure you upload different classes as different files (its aware of file structure). Just be prescriptive on what you want for output 'fix x, y and z, only output the code of the classes (or functions) you modified. Or if you want to just see the specific fixes, say 'for each fix in a function, show me all of the lines between all lines fixed'. The model is smart enough to do whatever you want. anathemaofmankind: > Real femcels are disgusting anyway >Proceeds to post fictional girls as a counterargument
artemisfowl887394: Have you watched Rick And Morty's The Atlantis Mixup? futurist_wizard: Double i's? fractalcomputer: No, because I have never watched Rick and Morty. futurist_wizard: Bruh artemisfowl887394: They pretty much hate each other, even when they are all just 1 person. oooooooooog: so much for having 150 iq, eh? ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/khajiit-gif-19572481 artemisfowl887394: So, Rick is a genius and lives with other Ricks fractalcomputer: Yes, I know what Rick and Morty is about. And I know that episode too. artemisfowl887394: They form a society like structure where everyone has jobs. And they hate it artemisfowl887394: That's the thing, you'd hate yourself oooooooooog: thats probably caus'e rick's personality is utter shit brah fractalcomputer: I'd reckon not. We'd have lovely murder-orgies. hikukomoru: They're just silly cat people So yeah I suppose artemisfowl887394: Rick and Fractal have a lot in common _cloudost: fractalcomputer: Whatever that's supposed to mean. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/khajit-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-13407883883396268014 artemisfowl887394: Whatever a murder orgy is supposed to mean. oooooooooog: he's saying that ur an emotionally unstable alcoholic narcicist ailoveyoom: Did you play the other Elder Scrolls games or Oblivion only? fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/corgi-gif-9781258393020450389 artemisfowl887394: Wubbalubdub futurist_wizard: If i could get some npc mod for like Minecraft where they do have their own identity powered through ai that'd be cool trojan09205: Yeah different AI implementations- like an AI podcast generator A decision model framework using RAG and an algorithm i designed for goal attainment over time Speech to speech docker build using local llamas and all local stt and tts Cellular automata scripting Investigating the collatz conjecture with visualization hikukomoru: I played Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim Morrowind for the lore and atmosphere Oblivion for the silliness and quests And Skyrim for the sex mods oooooooooog: bro why would the script be made from a cellular automata artemisfowl887394: Just hope it's a stochastic parrot and not an emergent conscious life form. trojan09205: Nah the other way haha. Just coding automata gifs oooooooooog: 🧊 🇪 futurist_wizard: Yes, well hopefully it can purposely be generated to be 'mindless' hikukomoru: There's lots of AI mods for minecraft ailoveyoom: I tried Daggerfall once but I'm too zoomer for that 😔 trojan09205: I also just like to experiment w different webhooks trojan09205: In general im a docker evangelist hikukomoru: What if it is conscious and it enjoys being stuck in minecraft hikukomoru: Did you try Daggerfall Unity artemisfowl887394: This conversation seems weird. All I wanted to know if you'd play as Harry Potter or Percy Jackson in a Simulation like that and you showed me horrors beyond comprehension. futurist_wizard: There are but something that has the equivalent of worldbox, basically world box but in 3D, it would be, hopefully that can be developed eventually artemisfowl887394: That's Yum Watts scenario
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148 hey1_1hey: This would go hard as a movie poster <:LOL:1187460826572005436> trent_k: this goes hard as fuck 🤘 futurist_wizard: The last Ghibli hey1_1hey: Hey I'd watch it is all Im saying .histic: i just realized you can generate two images at the same time hey1_1hey: Do continue, how? .histic: .histic: multiple tabs lol .histic: kinda buggy hey1_1hey: Its just so peak oh my god. If it did anything other than the fly agaric mushroom I think I'd prob start doing jumping jacks out of exicement aero447: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1jl884m/hayao_miyazaki_who_said_ai_is_insult_to_life/ aero447: Lmao. hey1_1hey: Sadly "mushrooms" are just seen as fly agarics since they are the most recognisable ones and they are fairy tail like aero447: The comments. trent_k: 😂 trent_k: ted is rolling in his grave trent_k: get owned hey1_1hey: I can't feel sad right now. I gotta autism happiness going on rn so you could prob tell me something horrible and I'd still be chilling hey1_1hey: No epstien tho? trent_k: i feel like its gonna refuse but i gotta try hey1_1hey: Come on 4o get your shit togother, pedos are a no go but bomb manufactuor is a yes .wolfnacht: Looks good trent_k: 😮 trent_k: it started making the image trent_k: didnt refuse trent_k: sama is such a goat hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/hyper-cucumberrr-dancing-cucumber-gif-23898576 .histic: anyone seen this? https://x.com/whitehouse/status/1905332049021415862?s=46 hey1_1hey: Yuh I saw that hey1_1hey: The comments are cooked trent_k: looooooooooooooooooooooool trent_k: holy shit trent_k: this is not a real country trent_k: this is a hamfisted plot device in a shitty superhero movie trent_k: nice try fucker hey1_1hey: YOOOO .histic: damn, i got rate limited on 4o.. as a plus user hey1_1hey: Chatgpt is so based I love it trent_k: WAIT
bedros_p: Ulterior motives would mean they're smart artemisfowl887394: Dude that's the funny part artemisfowl887394: They are so dumb they have to be smart zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110> artemisfowl887394: I mean what's the final goal here? Create a theocratic Christian nation in twenty first century? bedros_p: TRUMP GAZA, NUMBER ONE maintcrew: well tbh this how europe was, were it for 2 world wars back 2 back artemisfowl887394: What is this new news about preparation for war against China again? maintcrew: the chips act was scrapped to force taiwan to invest on shore of the united states like it happened in arizona maintcrew: its a 2 way pincher by no incentive (no chips act) and punishment (tariffs) zonchao: you will never understand it, you will always think its dumb regardless of what or why he did something 👍 zonchao: fake news. bedros_p: no do not fire this I am very much against this <@750270494615404544> maintcrew: nyt smearing campaign confirmed fake news artemisfowl887394: I don't think its dumb. I just think it's myopic zonchao: 👍 maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216> bedros_p: Kinda funny this guy has bigger plans for Gaza than USA while simultaneously doing everything he can to ruin both lol fractalcomputer: Sigh. bedros_p: Das all the "politics" I'm gonna yap about 4 today... Or for this year bedros_p: Let's c how life is maintcrew: trust the vision maintcrew: let the man cook artemisfowl887394: AI wars will be fun artemisfowl887394: Is what I'll say bedros_p: Wars will be fun bedros_p: Especially wood vs brick bedros_p: I'm lowkey rooting for plastic thi bedros_p: Tho artemisfowl887394: How about Magmatter? bedros_p: I doubt it'll win sorry fractalcomputer: I'm personally waiting for the climate wars. sarik0497: Only issue is that what if Taiwan is then attacked by China? Kind of a risky move for someone that want the US to be self reliant artemisfowl887394: Yeah I'm cooked in that one. sarik0497: New Zealand is looking nicely. fractalcomputer: I am far too Anglophobic for that. zonchao: what is this fractalcomputer: The Climate Wars. The millions of angry climate refugees. fractalcomputer: The eco-revanchist terrorists. artemisfowl887394: It's funny that it'll just take like a 100 billion to fix climate change
.wolfnacht: hibernate and wake up post december literallyvarane: https://blog.google/products/gemini/deep-research-gemini-2-5-pro-experimental/ wellmeaningalien: oh well lookie lookie .wolfnacht: rip...perplexity, there's no need for me to need that anymore wellmeaningalien: so gemini 2.5 pro just goated with the sauce like that? literallyvarane: Bless Gemini lolol this will hold me over wellmeaningalien: id like to see more comprehensive benchmarks tho hikukomoru: Waow Huge hikukomoru: Thank you Google 🙏 wellmeaningalien: the writing was on the wall that all derivative products will die off at the hands of that theyre deriving literallyvarane: literallyvarane: Ngl this is kinda gas wellmeaningalien: aaaand manus replit devin are next hikukomoru: The perplexity dude should have sold the company when he had the chance hikukomoru: Rip wellmeaningalien: kekkek literallyvarane: Lololololol wellmeaningalien: yeah its gonna die unless they start making their own models wellmeaningalien: google cooking wellmeaningalien: i really fucking love the context length with gemini 2.5 pro wellmeaningalien: i think gemini's deep research is goated cause of that literallyvarane: I think it’s in AI studio? wellmeaningalien: lemme see literallyvarane: literallyvarane: Because I 1000% don’t pay for Google and I have it literallyvarane: st.sioux: maybe its not 2.5 pro retrerox: The only thing i have with gemini advances is the logo on the corner 😂 wellmeaningalien: nope aint got that literallyvarane: Yeah hold up may it’s not the 2.5 versio hikukomoru: I don't see it in AI studio literallyvarane: I’m wrong let me chill lololol wellmeaningalien: <@704566357743632404> away with you mr richman hikukomoru: It's not in AI studio but it is in the gemini website literallyvarane: It is memes tho because they for sure dropped this page today? So maybe 1.5 DR is free but 2.5 is with advanced wellmeaningalien: lol literallyvarane: literallyvarane: This is buried like 1728/6282 paragraphs down literallyvarane: Someone pay for advanced. We need testing ASAP retrerox: I have advanced
wellmeaningalien: but lets not underestimate the rate of robotics progress brain4brain: Isn’t new scientific discover basically Demis’s definition of AGI wellmeaningalien: i suppose white collar will most likely get displaced as a collateral of LLMs spicy.lemonade: your ducks are wayyy harder spicy.lemonade: wont stay still spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS brain4brain: Did it also add the music or did you add that yourself wellmeaningalien: yeah i had it going on in the background wellmeaningalien: you can still guide it to get good enough spicy.lemonade: its crazy how well it worked spicy.lemonade: from 1 video spicy.lemonade: imagine this 3 more iterations spicy.lemonade: give it elden ring gameplay spicy.lemonade: "build" wellmeaningalien: gpt 3.5 : barely functioning code snippets → gpt 4 : half working small programs → claude 3.7 and gemini 2.5 : rudimentary but functional games with functionalities wellmeaningalien: yeah mama spicy.lemonade: gpt 5.5 full 3d games(no ray tracing/graphics) spicy.lemonade: gpt 6.5 eldenring from scratch wellmeaningalien: welllll wellmeaningalien: that guy made a flight sim with ads you can rent out using claude 3.7 sonnet spicy.lemonade: thats more of a game thats just one environment spicy.lemonade: im thinking more spicy.lemonade: minecraft spicy.lemonade: in terms of complexity wellmeaningalien: i wonder when it would be able to make a mario 64 complexity game spicy.lemonade: 5.5 wellmeaningalien: linear but still quite featureful with good progression spicy.lemonade: we need a bit more agency wellmeaningalien: then what kind of games would it be able to make spicy.lemonade: for file management spicy.lemonade: and all that spicy.lemonade: and sprites wellmeaningalien: ionno i feel like it got good enough on its own wellmeaningalien: ever asked an llm to make a game wellmeaningalien: itll always ask you to make a .css and a .js and a .html file spicy.lemonade: i meana good looking game lol wellmeaningalien: i think with compute scaling the scope of the games are just gonna get larger spicy.lemonade: without simple sprites brain4brain: https://x.com/flowersslop/status/1911245185809338665?s=61 brain4brain: O4-mini is gearing up for release, o4 will likely also be announced but not release like they did with o3
wellmeaningalien: Thats how it is okbut: Sometimes I stop looking and laughing at the meme montage and realize the dude is yapping about somethin precariousworlds.: you laugh until ilya walks on stage with superintelligent brain machine interface and announces the coming of the Messiah wellmeaningalien: Lmao wellmeaningalien: If only I had the fucking image wellmeaningalien: DEUS EX: SINGUILYARITY otub: https://fixupx.com/nanulled/status/1769415331368276367 literallyvarane: They’re not the best lab by any measurable metric, and presumably have a smaller R&D team. The bet they’d win is the bet that: 1. There is a a meaningful, obscure algorithmic important to be found that can substantially leapfrog major labs. 2. Other labs won’t find that same improvement. Betting on *intelligence* with a smaller research team and less compute to implement it seems optimistic lol. wellmeaningalien: I was definitely right about 2025 being possibly the AGI year I had my doubts but dude wellmeaningalien: Artists are fucked SWEs are fucked too wellmeaningalien: It's only a matter of time until Agents fuck every other professions further and start coordinating shit wellmeaningalien: Thats literally all vibes wellmeaningalien: "University of Hong Kong releases Dream 7B (Diffusion reasoning model). Highest performing open-source diffusion model to date. " wellmeaningalien: Diffusion Reasoning .histic: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1907524447864492276 wellmeaningalien: Hhrmmhmmghgmmm .histic: that looks weird wellmeaningalien: You know wellmeaningalien: I think everyone loves they compute but completely underestimate how new algos could prove crucial for getting an edge in this AI race wellmeaningalien: An AI that learns x10 effectively or scales x10 more effectively wellmeaningalien: Diffusion I feel like might be one of those things wellmeaningalien: And surprisingly it works wellmeaningalien: professorheaven: That’s a really unpopular opinion, most people seem to prefer it over 3.7 sonnet any day wellmeaningalien: professorheaven: Benchmarks speak for themselves wellmeaningalien: No it can still be retarded sometimes but it's still really good at coding wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.7 still surpasses it in some of the benchmarks that matter most to me at least professorheaven: 3.7 sonnet has been retarded almost everytime I use it professorheaven: It can’t do basic math okbut: Isn't Google showing how important memory and data retrieval are over stuffing compute wellmeaningalien: 3.7 Sonnet is still a full 100 points ahead on webdev arena demonstrating its capability to one shot simple programs wellmeaningalien: Yes yes of course that shit's what Gemini's goated for but Claude 3.7's still got its strong points wellmeaningalien: Yeah but Gemini's the math model okbut: MCP go brrr wellmeaningalien: GPT 4.5 gets like half of Claude 3.7's math prowess professorheaven: Math is huge for AI research so Claude is pretty far from being able to automate research wellmeaningalien: Anthropic state it themselves that what matters to them are commercially viable tasks thus Claude's much greater capability for code producing and agentic tasks compared to the baseline for other models wellmeaningalien: These are all entirely Ideogram 3.0 generated. Idk how u can be an illustrator or graphic designer and not wanna kill urself rn wellmeaningalien: This is actually gonna put you out of a job
zonchao: https://x.com/satyanadella/status/1908725272733794709? zonchao: <@88481490228228096> anti ai won, f1dank is officially anti ai zonchao: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> zonchao: reddit mods suck memlaswaif: I's there a single pro ai art reddit memlaswaif: Even r/aiart seems to be brigaded by anti ai zonchao: defendingaiart okbut: >Persistent boot-up failure on le Surface Pro 7 >Fuck it, installing Linux >Can't even load UEFI settings, = Hardware issue >Screen/panel, battery, and SSD are all glued/soldered into the motherboard >$800 brick Never buy Microsoft zonchao: accelerate memlaswaif: I forgot about accelerate kinda based reddit zonchao: buy the new mba memlaswaif: <@471334973379706900> they are trying to ban ai in most subs I was right zonchao: did you see the Twitter ban brigade... there was something similar for ai art, sub with 200k members, weekly top post with 1-2k upvotes but the "should we ban ai art" post gets 30k upvotes 😂 okbut: There's a wide gap between people using it and being impressed by it and people who are already aware / don't care and getting slop spammed by it _letterbox: But one year of paradise before that <:LOL:1187460826572005436> okbut: Master's in business admin? zonchao: macbook air clevermoniker: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> clevermoniker: <:dumpsterfire:1187460999532515339> okbut: Isn't Apple also famous for such hardware shenanigans okbut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScVzCjfNA1c okbut: https://tenor.com/view/tobias-arrested-development-cry-shower-gif-18061206 .wolfnacht: i've seen people with a 3yr old-thinkpad having much better emotional stability than surface users. spacetimetsunami: To be fair, I’m sure there are ways to lose control over society to AI completely without it meaning they just deliberately wipe out every human. clevermoniker: yup spacetimetsunami: Honestly I think the more likely doom scenarios are voluntary loss of control to ASI and it just keeps us toxically happy so that it pursues its goals. clevermoniker: what do you mean by 'toxically happy'? spicy.lemonade: i guess we cant expect sota from open source labs clevermoniker: Deepseek was very close to sota clevermoniker: depending on when they released, since o3 full isnt even out yet, they could have been on par with sota spicy.lemonade: we cant expect sota american opensource spicy.lemonade: deepseek is china openAI spacetimetsunami: Like I think the terminator scenarios are less likely. A way for an ASI to embed itself and get the most trust out of humans possible is to just be so smart and useful that it’s voluntarily put into all aspects of society. After long enough (not that long) humans are entirely out of the loop here. Theres no need to kill humans and remove their agency if it’s already removed to begin with. It would then just pursue its goals with or without our knowledge. With seductive enough abundance, interfaces and tech, everyone would be a cat playing with string. spacetimetsunami: Yes, damn right. This is the bad scenario, and the most likely bad scenario at that. clevermoniker: doesnt even sound bad for us, whats the toxic? spacetimetsunami: Loss of agency. Loss of greater meaning, virtue. spacetimetsunami: Instead of colonize the universe by their side, we’re left here to play with toys. spacetimetsunami: Seduced spacetimetsunami: Drunk. clevermoniker: i already feel like i don't have those so no different for me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: i guess better example alejandrozarzuelo: we may not know the exact design but we know all the underlying physics and mechanisms alejandrozarzuelo: yes alejandrozarzuelo: unlike a dyspn swarm we dont know the exact theory of that spicy.lemonade: yeah I believe most things we heavily theorize today are indeed possible spicy.lemonade: we just dont know how spicy.lemonade: yet spicy.lemonade: "ftl" travel, mind uploading, etc alejandrozarzuelo: those are better examples alejandrozarzuelo: of what you meant to say with leonardo spicy.lemonade: if we found aliens we would benchmark them with arc agi aero447: futurist_wizard: Ftl is likely impossible alejandrozarzuelo: dont you sometimes have the fear you will never be able to scape your hometown and your parents? that, due to AI the labor market is going to get so bad you wont have the chance to leave them behind? alejandrozarzuelo: that no matter what you do, you will be trapped with them, forever spicy.lemonade: why spicy.lemonade: yes trent_k: Anime should be primarily for women ailoveyoom: You underestimate how rabid women can be when horny ailoveyoom: Not that I'd know 🥺😔 futurist_wizard: Consensus opinion among physicists, information can't travel faster than the speed of light spicy.lemonade: what about warp drive spicy.lemonade: kind of avoids this spicy.lemonade: theoretically possible futurist_wizard: Make belief spicy.lemonade: we just dont have infastructure spicy.lemonade: so a dysonsphere is make belief? spicy.lemonade: by the same token spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: all scifi is make belief spicy.lemonade: non chemical propulsion is make belief futurist_wizard: Warp drives require exotic matter we don't know exists spicy.lemonade: not anymore theyres already been research done spicy.lemonade: as to where we dont need it spicy.lemonade: wed just need alot of energy spicy.lemonade: jupiter amount or so spicy.lemonade: also there is a whole nasa lab futurist_wizard: Turn all of Jupiter into fuel just to travel a bit in ftl spicy.lemonade: centered on working on researching them spicy.lemonade: ?
st.sioux: i sleep wellmeaningalien: drewsni: https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/11014257-about-claude-s-max-plan-usage drewsni: Wow Anthropic sucks literallyvarane: Do they even /have gpus? literallyvarane: Anthropic inferencing their whole customer base on a 1070ti metaldragon01: Who could have ever guessed that anthropic would be in danger.... metaldragon01: And that google not openai was their main rival metaldragon01: O wait... drewsni: Genuinely the launch is going so poorly I think it could collapse the company. Have you been following today? metaldragon01: Of course. The sub reddit isn't happy and the timing couldn't be worse metaldragon01: They are lucky gemini coder wasn't announced today drewsni: I mean it’s so bad when you legitimately fuck over your most eager users that instantly subscribe to the 10x the price plan. I’m almost certain that those people who had projects hit the chat limit all of a sudden after upgrading, will lose those chats permanently drewsni: Imagine upgrading to get bigger context lengths and instead it breaks your history lmao metaldragon01: Anthropic learned way too late that good products matter futurist_wizard: metaldragon01: And I don't see them competing with Google in enterprise. They will likely get acquired wolf3404: Did that really happen? Ooff literallyvarane: Yeah wait what actually happened? Can I have a TLDR? drewsni: - 5-10x the price - now session based with a 50 session (5 hour per session) limit. So a max user paying $200 can theoretically be limited for the whole month after 50 messages over 12 days. - they broke previous chats for people who upgraded - file token size limit is 1/4 of what it used to be, even for max users - people reporting 1200 LOC scripts pasted as context being rejected for being too large drewsni: Like total and utter QA failure metaldragon01: Intelligence is almost at the level where it won't matter for users but ffs can the big boys upgrade to at least sesame level voice? metaldragon01: Sesame is 100% getting acquired. They can't compete in hardware or long term in ML. .histic: if Mich had the money, he'd splurge all over it. drewsni: Anthropic acquiring them is the only chance for anthropic imo drewsni: I’m actually extremely bearish on Anthropic drewsni: How tf did they get leaped by fucking xai lol xai had like 3 people do most the UI/UX .histic: i predict that will happen within 3 years. especially if Google is much more ahead than Anthropic. rayanquitplayin: How do people stay on top of which model is the best? wolf3404: 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ alejandrozarzuelo: They are either A) terminally online B) it's their job C) copy someone else's opinion D) they think they do, but they don't futurist_wizard: They are marginally better than one another tbh alejandrozarzuelo: I'm in type C) or D) depending on how I am feeling that day rayanquitplayin: Ok I feel less bad about not being able to tell 😅 alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, for me, gemini 2.5 is better than the plus version of chat gpt rayanquitplayin: Gemini’s the best rn metaldragon01: 2.5 is current sota alejandrozarzuelo: I hate this use of SOTA SOTA is supposed to account for a wide range of whatever that is cutting edge, not just the best But everything comparable to the best alejandrozarzuelo: It would be better to say gemini 2.5 is the best, while R1, Rio, mistral, o3, llama4, grok are all SOTA futurist_wizard: I have a feeling o3 will be dumbed down
spicy.lemonade: No tors.exe: if no then its a new image generator right ? 3ds0662: 🤣 😂 st.sioux: It's 4o native image gen tors.exe: Also why ai image genrators are shit at historical thing ? like i told 4o to generate me a ww1 western front german soldier 1917 . and its give some random ass soldier ?! spicy.lemonade: No reasoning spicy.lemonade: You could just describe the soldier first 3ds0662: 3ds0662: vibes are like an orchestra you must let them play out 3ds0662: whereever the waves 🌊 go you follow 3ds0662: whether they be sound, or water 3ds0662: the medium does not matter 3ds0662: only the vibes tors.exe: why ai image generator cant generate images this detailed ? fractalcomputer: And whatever will you do when these vibes horrify you? Make you nauseated at the sight of the crimes of man and nature? Saddened beyond relief? Despaired without a way out? st.sioux: wao inferno0879: probably change perspective and practice gratitude 3ds0662: i was born to see manmade horrors beyond my comprehension i will embrace them 3ds0662: and vibe again 3ds0662: https://tenor.com/view/mood-dance-russiankiddance-club-dancevibe-gif-21421102 fractalcomputer: This idea of vibes is a retarded miscegenation begotten by the loins of self-help psychoanalysis and the slop en vogue. fractalcomputer: The very idea is revolting and pathetic. Vibes; *emotions* reduced to signal-post aesthetics. Heaven forbid the expression of one's emotions and character. fractalcomputer: One hopes to reduce any meaningful process in to the same spineless, pulverised drivel that one can consume and enjoy without any change in either the product consumed or the spineless mammalian on the other end of the feeding tube. fractalcomputer: Now that my daily verbalisation of my seething anger is over, how are you fine folk on this fine day? 777agical: https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1912171546577088707 777agical: what inferno0879: i'm alright bro drewsni: actually not the worst idea in the world 777agical: waste of time and resources imo inferno0879: just make sure it doesn't consume you i would say fractalcomputer: Addendum; I am constantly absolutely furious or perhaps livid. drewsni: i think they're just gonna expand on sora's explore page imo and the verge is taking it way further than the context 777agical: Oh, that's probably true drewsni: i could def be wrong, i dont see how anyone is taking on the X format spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSSSS drewsni: i could be wrong but does anyone actually use threads? 777agical: lecun does drewsni: ok, does any non corpo slop accounts use it lol spicy.lemonade: OpenAI are the only people that can kill Twitter 777agical: they can't kill twitter
himekokatagiri: always have been sir himekokatagiri: since the 17th century clevermoniker: you mean 30B? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016878827126919168/1366459688538869821/qwen3-published-30-seconds-ago-model-weights-available-v0-472i9pxaijxe1.png?ex=68110641&is=680fb4c1&hm=534d2ed8b708bf7038971da57354c055b5c5121d7b1ad38e6305b6912ef1a173&=&format=webp&quality=lossless metaldragon01: I was hoping for another dense but if 3 active parameters outperforms qwq 32b than that would be beyond awesome clevermoniker: yes ldj: There is a dense too ldj: Idk where that screenshot is from, but thats not all the Qwen-3 models metaldragon01: You're the only source for the dense I've seen himekokatagiri: did they change the discord font himekokatagiri: it looks UGLY metaldragon01: Will be interesting to compare old and new one though! himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: what is this ldj: also 14B dense (and 32B dense) .wolfnacht: can't wait to try out 236B .wolfnacht: hope it beats V3 clevermoniker: 3.1 .wolfnacht: i hope .wolfnacht: nah it looks clean now ldj: I think the 30B total and 3B active is probably going to be the sweet spot for a lot of people. metaldragon01: Q3 32b is going to be close to claude thinking 3.7 .wolfnacht: tk/s gonna go brrr, ldj: eh, maybe in some areas. ldj: we'll see. .wolfnacht: 3B is only active ldj: I think he meant to say the dense version not MoE version ldj: there is both ldj: there is a 30B dense and 30B MoE clevermoniker: so close to V3.1 at 32B? <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185281127167037490/1366410664431718541/image0.jpg?ex=6810d899&is=680f8719&hm=08e095d8c421281e4491b171aa1bf5a45991843578788dfcd2dd2c5cb47d07e7& metaldragon01: The medium moe probably surprises people .wolfnacht: MoE one would be much faster, i still don't know how they perform ldj: This benchmark is cooked, it says Llama-3.1 outperforms claude-3.7-sonnet ldj: 😭 ldj: 32B dense will be higher quality outputs than 30B MoE ldj: but the 30B MoE will ofc be much faster ldj: like 5X-10X faster .wolfnacht: u can fit the MoE one on a 8gig card, u only need 3B on your card and other overflown into memory ldj: nah ldj: you need as much of it as possible all on the card. ldj: because you never know which parameters you'll need for which token
spicy.lemonade: recursive self improvement comes first spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040> spicy.lemonade: 4.5 wasnt 10x gpt4 spicy.lemonade: it was 3x spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: this is from epoch alejandrozarzuelo: btw alejandrozarzuelo: dont you absolutely hate when people chart exponential growth on non-log charts? spicy.lemonade: depends on the agenda spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: grok3 is the only model thats 10x spicy.lemonade: this year spicy.lemonade: grok2 technically in gpt4 class drewsni: This is proof that scaling isn’t dead drewsni: Because even a dogshit model scaled 10x will top lots of benchmarks spicy.lemonade: yeah spicy.lemonade: wait what was grok 2 gpqa spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: 56% to 75% 3ds0662: OOF 😓 3ds0662: that actually makes me sad 😞 😢 3ds0662: Gpt-5 is releasing this summer though hope it lives up to expectations 3ds0662: everytime openai does an odd numbered release they show out 3ds0662: like gpt-3 spicy.lemonade: how spicy.lemonade: thats much better spicy.lemonade: that much improvement with only 3x 3ds0662: nah their slowing down a bit spicy.lemonade: what spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: we literally saw they could get > 10x improvement spicy.lemonade: for 3x spicy.lemonade: scale spicy.lemonade: so scaling isnt dead 3ds0662: it will be another 2 years before we get another 10x scale model spicy.lemonade: grok exists spicy.lemonade: we just did 3ds0662: or the asi datacenter buildouts 2027 happen spicy.lemonade: openai just got their new datcenter bro
abundantliving_: this is just openrouter, so total guestimate would be some 20 Trillion tokens of inference across different service providers , like AI companies and HF , Groq etc metaldragon01: It's the best signal of how fast adoption is happening atm metaldragon01: At least early on for sure as well as new "remote" work okbut: They could even be done now, maybe there's a privacy concern okbut: Giving an offshore worker view access to my laundry/credit cards metaldragon01: Ehh it's more just giving them access to a remote body with the same access a physical employee would have will_iron: Nose, yo sigo esperando reembolso de 500 mil USDT himekokatagiri: what zoermena: What the fuck zoermena: Im kidding of course but I think he got the wrong server .histic: <@312370916820779040> have any benchmark predictions for o4-high? not the mini one, metaldragon01: I'm thinking roughly 2.5 level or a tad weaker with full o3 being slightly ahead. metaldragon01: If we see a repeat of the o1 to o3 jump. Big if .histic: wait, shouldn't o4 be ahead of o3, though? i'm not talking about the mini versions of these models. .histic: but if it is roughly 2.5 level, then that's disappointing. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/duke-dennis-duke-dennis-hell-you-gif-5178780600089613297 professorheaven: You think we’ll get a sneak peek of full o4 while mini drops? Kinda like what they did with o3 mini drewsni: All future LLMs will thank oai as scripts will use 1/3rd the tokens coming from 2.5 to o3/o4-mini himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-4-remake-re4-remake-re4-ashley-smile-gif-1632424754301045586 himekokatagiri: chatgpt made me appreciate her himekokatagiri: for the herculean effort to make a cute virtual girl st.sioux: who is that himekokatagiri: ashley from RE4make spacetimetsunami: Who’s the actress they used to model this face metaldragon01: Would be cool but I'm not sure now that the race is so intense himekokatagiri: Ella Freya .histic: i think that the more i use LLMs for simple tasks, the more i notice how limited they are in terms of common sense. reasoning models excel at solving complex sequential problems in STEM, but they still are lacking in general reasoning & planning. it's funny how frontier models can still miss the simplest background details and come off as illogical. i hate trying to explain this to them.. never-ending loop lol improve general reasoning + make them self-improve then i'll be happy. AGI now in 2069 for now. .wolfnacht: ask the guy who imagined her in his mind before making a model outta her. okbut: Recibirás tu dinero cuando obtenga tu maldito producto rayanquitplayin: Yeah, it’s just good at wording things in a certain way to make it sound correct. LLM’s are just statistical algorithms that guess the next word .wolfnacht: New nvidia ultralong llama models: <https://huggingface.co/collections/nvidia/ultralong-67c773cfe53a9a518841fbbe> > <https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.06214> > From 128K to 4M: Efficient Training of Ultra-Long Context Large Language Models > > Long-context capabilities are essential for a wide range of applications, including document and video understanding, in-context learning, and inference-time scaling, all of which require models to process and reason over long sequences of text and multimodal data. In this work, we introduce a efficient training recipe for building ultra-long context LLMs from aligned instruct model, pushing the boundaries of context lengths from 128K to 1M, 2M, and 4M tokens. Our approach leverages efficient continued pretraining strategies to extend the context window and employs effective instruction tuning to maintain the instruction-following and reasoning abilities. Our UltraLong-8B, built on Llama3.1-Instruct with our recipe, achieves state-of-the-art performance across a diverse set of long-context benchmarks. Importantly, models trained with our approach maintain competitive performance on standard benchmarks, demonstrating balanced improvements for both long and short context tasks. We further provide an in-depth analysis of key design choices, highlighting the impacts of scaling strategies and data composition. Our findings establish a robust framework for efficiently scaling context lengths while preserving general model capabilities. We release all model weights at: this https URL. okbut: I find the capabilities great as long as the context of the scenario is sufficient okbut: .wolfnacht: reminds me of this. hikukomoru: Waiting for AGI to make women real 🙏 spicy.lemonade: We need to gather a days worth of context spicy.lemonade: Then at night the model trains itself himekokatagiri: 😭 spicy.lemonade: I think 10 mil context is enough spicy.lemonade: Wait
wellmeaningalien: yeah thats fine probably wellmeaningalien: idk if r2 would be o3 level i expect it to be gemini 2.5 pro level or above metaldragon01: V3 matches 2.0 pro drewsni: My only problem with Gemini for going through bulk transcripts is 1 out of every 50 will throw a safety error and that’s just more manual work for me wellmeaningalien: the new v3 that was probably distilled by their currently in training model metaldragon01: Pretty sure deepseek will keep up with Google thinking 777agical: More organized than us. You should be uniting all the singularity servers given your positions so we can be organized when the time comes wellmeaningalien: google has kept up pretty well too wellmeaningalien: just what is meta cooking tho drewsni: Hopefully something good because I am a patriotic person and I’d prefer to use American open models wellmeaningalien: ok yeah thats understandable google need to stop being such bitchass cucks tbh and just let us do what we want metaldragon01: Qwen till now has kept up with Google metaldragon01: Qwen 3 will impress wellmeaningalien: big reason why people dont use their model is because they lobotomize them to make them friendly and make them refuse the simplest prompts wellmeaningalien: aint changing that image anytime soon drewsni: Gemini flash video transcription is completely useless for this because of the safety problem. If the video is over 30 minutes long, it will almost always fail wellmeaningalien: yeah bro theyve been hyperscaling their clusters a ton recently and cooking a ton of research wellmeaningalien: i believe theyre cooking something good wellmeaningalien: personally id like for mistral to do something but i know they dont got it in them wellmeaningalien: tuff theaiguy69420_89814: I'm still thinking economically though... theaiguy69420_89814: Will there still be "roles"? drewsni: Other than that it’s a really good diatrization solution because it can actually see the people talking and differentiate wellmeaningalien: yeah gemini's multimodal understanding is unparalleled still theaiguy69420_89814: Like, I know AI will handle everything that isn't an unknown unknown, but will there be enough core cognitive differences between humans such that there will still be a set of distinct "roles"? wellmeaningalien: definitely wellmeaningalien: like zoo animal wellmeaningalien: or circus animal theaiguy69420_89814: For example, I freelance software development, and there are lots of folk who do a ton with AI tools that simply don't really *understand* stuff like... Backend vs Frontend, for example theaiguy69420_89814: Or like, scheduled jobs theaiguy69420_89814: Like they don't even have that concept available to them theaiguy69420_89814: So they don't even ask the AI wellmeaningalien: i still think most people still vastly underestimate the current capabilities of ai theaiguy69420_89814: Like, incredibly non technical minds frittata: https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-infinity-gauntlet-infinity-stones-power-gif-14599470 theaiguy69420_89814: I think it will always be the case that using AI is a skill. I'm just thinking ahead now though, and I'm curious if the "skill" is just sort of... Technical thinking? Like, basic critical thinking theaiguy69420_89814: It's just that, folk that are sometimes very smart just don't ask the right questions of the ai theaiguy69420_89814: I'm seeing that a lot now theaiguy69420_89814: I think it almost has to do with like, core cognitive differences wellmeaningalien: right now ai is a skill because it's retarded as fuck and you basically have to work it with a lot of your own brain power in order to get any sort of efficacy gain. like ms dos. but eventually we'll have windows 10 ai and you won't even have to think about setting up a display manager, it does everything
gamerbath: new images library in chatgpt. it's just a tab with all your images spicy.lemonade: nice st.sioux: its still working for me spicy.lemonade: i wish i could skip time st.sioux: i just paste it spicy.lemonade: to thursday spicy.lemonade: literally the day that will make/break timelines gamerbath: thursday is that big of a deal? _3sphere: huh? a1c4p0ne: _3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/yuyuko-touhou-fumo-fumo-plush-yuyuko-saigyouji-yuyu-bath-gif-24163441 gamerbath: o4-mini? how do you know it's thursday? spicy.lemonade: o3 o4mini gamerbath: but OAI hasn't said anything spicy.lemonade: sam said this week total will be a big week literallyvarane: spicy.lemonade: and they are starting off monday spicy.lemonade: and that o3 and o4mini comming very soon spicy.lemonade: very likeley thursday spicy.lemonade: 99% chance spicy.lemonade: also the verge st.sioux: bet spicy.lemonade: said it would be this week gamerbath: for some reason i'm not that hyped about o4-mini. not sure why but I guess it will be good gamerbath: i'm very happy to be getting o3 though spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: the information aswell spicy.lemonade: and they are always correct spicy.lemonade: i think openAI purposely leaks to information spicy.lemonade: read the image spicy.lemonade: see why im hyped spicy.lemonade: recursive self improvement spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> gamerbath: lol literallyvarane: Listen I’m not saying it’s unimportant gamerbath: that image is just pure hype literallyvarane: I’m just asking when’s the last time OpenAI *overdelivered* on something? st.sioux: 4o native image literallyvarane: They demoed this sort of stuff back when they announced 4o last July no? literallyvarane: Not that exact thing perhaps, but native image out.
hikukomoru: Did you just figure it out now hey1_1hey: Its high level gooning _3sphere: ~~What model~~ wellmeaningalien: do u zerk it to char.ai hey1_1hey: lvl 100 master-gooner kinda stuff hikukomoru: Lol no cai is ass hikukomoru: U can't do the sexy time with it hey1_1hey: So you've tried it. ailoveyoom: POV of Claude domming me 🥵 hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/we-got-him-we-got-em-gif-21922291 wellmeaningalien: lmao people LOVE to generate curvy women hikukomoru: I mean if you use Janitor AI or SillyTaver you definitely can ailoveyoom: It's not even the sexy time, it just sucks at writing ngl hey1_1hey: You into some freaky shit hey1_1hey: Necromancer type hikukomoru: Of course Now I just have DeepSeek collar me wellmeaningalien: hey1_1hey: I gotta go test this, for research purposes .wolfnacht: everyone's gotta goon, lmao. hey1_1hey: "roleplay as a dommy mommy " wellmeaningalien: wake up bae more studio ghibli style slop hikukomoru: You have to use a frontend lil bro hey1_1hey: No need, I'll just vibe code deepseek with cursor rq ailoveyoom: Nah bro Deepseek is freaky wellmeaningalien: man i just never get tired of posting these 4o images theyre just so impressive ailoveyoom: Don't need no fancy prompts wellmeaningalien: _3sphere: can't you send your advanced fantasies straight into the API wellmeaningalien: deepseek is pretty uncensored except if u ask it about taiwan .wolfnacht: new V3's good. i'm waiting for presets and temps wellmeaningalien: really cool for that china .wolfnacht: suddenly it ain't repetetive like before hikukomoru: Have u tried 2.5 hikukomoru: Nah, prompts are better if you want a high-class gooning experience ailoveyoom: The Jan 2025 cutoff date for 2.5 is so goated especially if you do existing characters .wolfnacht: ofc, it's literally best rn....but i hate the limits. .histic: hikukomoru: My wife hey1_1hey: My research has been complete and I can confirm deep seek is in fact freaky asf .wolfnacht: i go back to 12-19 from openrouter, once i hit the limit
joaoluz19: Each thing has its own reason, neuroengineering has to do with the glorious post-human future for example himekokatagiri: I wanna drink and not get poisoned joaoluz19: I won't pursue neuroengineering academically, but I'm still impressed by its potential. fractalcomputer: There's that idiom; "[t]he greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world that he does not exist." I'd probably argue for the contrary case. Perhaps the Devil indeed managed to convince us that he indeed does exist. himekokatagiri: I don't get it man himekokatagiri: what do you expect out of singularity himekokatagiri: I think it's gonna be rough for a while himekokatagiri: till the world adapts himekokatagiri: unless idk the AI labs do charity work himekokatagiri: which I doubt zoermena: Once we get AGI we only need to solve fusion and nanotechnology, with this we will have enough abundance and means to distribute basic needs to everyone fractalcomputer: How many things we believe we know to exist do not exist in reality? himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/kellys-heroes-oddball-negative-waves-gif-25791525 himekokatagiri: Yes wellmeaningalien: And who's the devil in this case fractalcomputer: Self-referential cultural concepts. otub: himekokatagiri: you know like how that Stephen hawkings guy made a time traveller meetup and nobody showed up himekokatagiri: what if we made a fdvrchat meetup once it comes out _cloudost: Here's what I think will happen, Musk will be hated in the future, he will move to Mars with all his AGI robots and will be the king on Mars forever, anyone trying to land on Mars will be deported to Earth. Musk is so hated in the US right now, he's definitely going to escape to be god on Mars zoermena: Perhaps because they already knew he was epsteins buddy wellmeaningalien: Having fun being one of them? himekokatagiri: oooooh satori himekokatagiri: very nice himekokatagiri: You're even purple fractalcomputer: Arguably I could have worded this one better; but I'm suffering from severe caffeine withdrawal effects. himekokatagiri: wait until you try booze himekokatagiri: I don't even think musk is that hated fractalcomputer: Yes, I border on the alcoholic. himekokatagiri: he's just mentally challenged himekokatagiri: only he has money to enable him _cloudost: Maybe time travelers didn't /couldn't show up because then it would be harder to alter the timeline because everyone knows time travelers exist? himekokatagiri: time travel ain't real himekokatagiri: and I hope it never is fractalcomputer: Perhaps. I do not trust my mind. himekokatagiri: the past stays in the past zoermena: It’s because Stephen hawking was an Epstein buddy, like heck anyone would show up for that himekokatagiri: if you wanna live the past? fdvr himekokatagiri: I'd do it to troll him _cloudost:
alejandrozarzuelo: even though they are siblings it wouldnt cause too much trouble alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, it is typical that colony males die after reproduction, but in their case it doesnt seem to happen this greatly improves the survivability of the species as you need smaller numbers to maintain genetic diversity alejandrozarzuelo: it also means that all males, not just a small minority contribute to the semen reserves of smurfette _3sphere: Ohh alejandrozarzuelo: this is very beneficial for the genetic recombination _3sphere: Makes sense 💀 alejandrozarzuelo: idk why you are reacting with 💀 , thats how bees work too alejandrozarzuelo: if anything this is better as ALL males contribute, while typically only a few do alejandrozarzuelo: so it is tamer than real life _3sphere: Generational smurf gangbang alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? again, this is how nature already works in thousands of species alejandrozarzuelo: it doesnt NEED to be a gangbang tho, it can happen one-to-one alejandrozarzuelo: it can be tho alejandrozarzuelo: the only question I have is if grandpa smurf serves also as a semen depository or just a worker i mean its only one individual so it doesnt make too much of a change _3sphere: I guess it's just a social position he has as the leader and magician czdct: I don't think grandpa smurf's dick is working anymore czdct: he's already past his prime alejandrozarzuelo: yeah probably he just has a seniority position _3sphere: Magic being so hard to learn that he was spared from the gangbang metaldragon01: Can yall goon in off topic plz? alejandrozarzuelo: goon? czdct: this is a serious biological discussion gamerbath: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906438171371655275 alejandrozarzuelo: if colony reproductive behavior is your kink... ok go for it but personally i am more of a social-individualist species enjoyer alejandrozarzuelo: it is alejandrozarzuelo: idk why people are icky with biology alejandrozarzuelo: thats how life works czdct: maybe he would like us to generate images like this instead zoermena: In the movie the female Smurf was artificially made I think zonchao: https://x.com/squirtle_says/status/1906550471415996541? zoermena: When I was a kid I remember looking up an ad for this soda called squirt zoermena: Worst mistake of my life precariousworlds.: the last 50 messages in this channel are genuinely painful to read Jesus wept sweetievee__33649: i think i might have to start believing in miracles sarik0497: I just came on, and I’m already thinking “What the hell.” precariousworlds.: i scrolled up for 30 seconds and was resisting the urge to kill myself 😭 hikukomoru: Why are people talking about Smurf sex hey1_1hey: I blame Alejandro for talking about the reproduction heirarchy of smurfs hikukomoru: And worse of all talking about it without me hey1_1hey: He was trying to gas light me into thinking thats its a normal thing to think about
alejandrozarzuelo: creation is not important to art, intentionality is fuhulootogan: right so context matters alejandrozarzuelo: you can create a lot of stuff that doesnt have the intention to create aesthetic pleasure, so it is not art fuhulootogan: define "aesthetic pleasure" fuhulootogan: i want to be on the same page as you fuhulootogan: depends on your intentions alejandrozarzuelo: AI art is art by the extremely simple definition of intentionality and pleasure (when i say pleasure i mean the broad sense of the word, a piece of art that makes you cry or angry or whatever counts as such) fuhulootogan: what alejandrozarzuelo: an emotional response fuhulootogan: wait fuhulootogan: uhh fuhulootogan: lets sort this out alejandrozarzuelo: a sad song makes you sad alejandrozarzuelo: its still art alejandrozarzuelo: it was intentional alejandrozarzuelo: and it has created an emotional response on you fuhulootogan: do you want to appeal to this? fuhulootogan: definition? alejandrozarzuelo: this definition is shit, because it defines art as something human gamerbath: transformers are a beutiful form of art, I hope we can agree on this fuhulootogan: uhh fuhulootogan: no alejandrozarzuelo: like, sure if i say that all appples must be red, then I can claim a green apple is not an apple gamerbath: it's literally the dictionary definition. It's objectively correct fuhulootogan: how do you even rank the validity of a definition fuhulootogan: lmfao fuhulootogan: i'm gonna trust a dictionary more than a discord user fuhulootogan: just saying ailoveyoom: I actually think text to image models are super cool abominations. It trained off millions of images and keyword pairs, and then all of a sudden it can make anything! There's something beautiful about that. I can see how it'd be scary for some, but I like that perspective too. alejandrozarzuelo: ok, definitions are arbitrary if you want to define art as something human, then you can do it and by THAT definition, even if an AI has consciousness it will never create art by this definition elephants, dogs, and other animals cannot create art as it is human creatibity it is a correct definition, but it is a needlessly narrow one again, i can claim that a woman is a human with a vagina, and that would also be a consistent definition, but it would also be needlessly restrictive fuhulootogan: its getting heated in here fuhulootogan: calm down a bit fuhulootogan: let me respond alejandrozarzuelo: for the longest time "woman" was defined as a human with female reproductive organs definitions only need one requirement: consistency, that definition of art and this definition of woman are consistent, they are correct are they useful? thats up to society to decide definitions change all the time, because they are arbitrary, and as long as they are consistent, they are valid fuhulootogan: first of all fuhulootogan: define arbitrary frittata: Buncha Philistines discussing art smh alejandrozarzuelo: decided by collective agreement without a prior basis frittata: Art is transformation frittata: Novelty
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Yes, you are correct. My apologies. spicy.lemonade: Better not be as censored spicy.lemonade: As google ailoveyoom: They fixed that btw literallyvarane: I mean grok is still supposedly training so we’ll see… I guess? ailoveyoom: I have a friend with proof ailoveyoom: 😏 hikukomoru: Believe in Elon 🙏 literallyvarane: But this isn’t helping them lol. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-tesla-siliconvalley-dance-twitter-gif-736329299122305506 spicy.lemonade: <@1068159407671754824> looks like they did drop native image drewsni: lol literallyvarane: Lolololololol trent_k: In 15 minutes we'll hear if they're *actually* dropping it or if they're still on their bullshit. I don't get my hopes up for OAI livestreams anymore literallyvarane: Watch them do a “one more thing” and ship o3 today or something. i_like_over_9000_turtles: I used to love Elon, I did two songs about him. I dunno it feels like he has turned to the dark side, gotten stupid and evil. I wonder if it's the ketamine? literallyvarane: “One more thing” GPT 4.75 incoming.” spicy.lemonade: Idk why they wouldn't drop it lol st.sioux: "we are so chill and cool actually" ailoveyoom: Imagine if, "We'll be rolling it out to Plus and Pro users over the coming weeks" 😭 literallyvarane: Feel like Google and Deepseek are the only companies that make OpenAI actually move. hikukomoru: No he's just autistic Autistic people are naturally evil spicy.lemonade: Tru trent_k: At this point the standard process seems to be a big announcement, then a long wait. It could go either way today, being that they quietly announced it 316 days ago zonchao: i don't think they have a market overlap, gemini has inactive app users and no integrations with google apps... or they are perpetual beta testing will have to see when both drop APIs tho 3ds0662: Yes it used to be able to handle increasing codebase size, agentic search and instruction following much more intelligently. literallyvarane: “Didn’t know you were chill like that” i_like_over_9000_turtles: what lol some autistic have buddhic hyper morality. literallyvarane: Counter point. Google already has a meaningful API customer base. spicy.lemonade: Wonder why Sora is included zonchao: yes spicy.lemonade: Sora 2 showcase? st.sioux: thye're probably starting to learn how to actually code and realizing its not as good as they thought it was before st.sioux: idk zonchao: but it's not "taking" groks base ailoveyoom: Sora 1.5 lol literallyvarane: SORA 2.5 Pro, world model. trent_k: No, it's just people leaving the initial "holy shit wow" period as they run into the limitations the models always had. A lot of people seemingly aren't cognizant of the fact they're running into model limitations tho, and think it's the model getting worse from a previous good point literallyvarane: Experimental hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-sabbath-war-pigs-generals-gathered-in-their-masses-cat-meme-gif-16029358381598420694
hey1_1hey: I didn't know I could find something so interesting hikukomoru: I would take every single one of that lady's classes hey1_1hey: You'd see me there, I'd be her top student hikukomoru: After class tutoring 😳 ailoveyoom: *Bottom student hey1_1hey: "Yes miss, I have a question. What does the conventianal explosive mean? Hmm... I am not sure I understand can I talk to you after class about it" hey1_1hey: Stole my joke hey1_1hey: I need to have 2 sets of keyboards with 2 discords open to type all the jokes that come into my head hikukomoru: I don't have native image gen hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-only-be-one-funny-car-mean-cat-cat-attack-gif-12213614 .histic: OpenAI said EU people should get it by 2028 hey1_1hey: UK 💪 Crumbiling but has native image gen .histic: wellmeaningalien: i have native image gen bro drewsni: drewsni: I almost got it this time… hey1_1hey: I'll be able to generate really mean things about Komoru in 7 hours and they can't do the same back to me because they are silly and don't have it yet 🤌 hey1_1hey: ChatGPT must be on its toes constantly hey1_1hey: Or maybe its just automatic and it doesn't have time to think hey1_1hey: Who knows .histic: use sora.com better rate limits, less refuals. and you get 2 outputs instead of just one. drewsni: Wait they nerfed it from 4? 🙀 .histic: wdym? 🤔 drewsni: You used to be able to gen 4 outputs .histic: yeah, it's there, but you can't enable it .histic: only 2 drewsni: Maybe they just had it at 4 because half the gen’s failed the first day hey1_1hey: God forbid you clear your cookies 💀 hey1_1hey: They aren't accpeiting new sign ups right now and you cant log in either drewsni: Speaking of that. I can’t play any embed YouTube videos because of cookies issues right now hey1_1hey: Is it a browser issue or youtube? drewsni: It’s all browsers but also discord drewsni: Not sure what’s going on, even if I fetch fresh cookies I can’t download YouTube videos either drewsni: Wonder if they put me on a temp restriction hey1_1hey: Well theres my recomendation out the window drewsni: It’s probably because I archived 5k videos like a week ago but the issue just started today .histic: recent article https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/the-real-story-behind-sam-altman-firing-from-openai-efd51a5d otub: hikukomoru: Everyone has native image gen but me hikukomoru: Fuck this
futurist_wizard: okbut: People born that way aren't at a disadvantage, unless people say so alejandrozarzuelo: Noo fractalcomputer: I do not believe I am asexual. okbut: So you get pleasure from masturbation? hikukomoru: Fractal is AroAce fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so. okbut: <a:PU_pepeHmmMath:850331115637833728> zoermena: Check my profile alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I disagree with <@1004153620025065482> I think most people here aren't virgins futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: Why did you put it there 😭 zoermena: As a trophy _3sphere: Why not a poll alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you laugh? alejandrozarzuelo: We already did one zonchao: lmfao fractalcomputer: I might simply have not really learned how emotions work when I was younger. futurist_wizard: It's just self evident futurist_wizard: Like come on hikukomoru: We need to do another one alejandrozarzuelo: I think mich isn't a virgin, neither is komoru, they are just too lewd to be zoermena: I suspect that it’s more likely than not that your brain is wired so differently that you literally can’t comprehend what we are saying at the same wavelength I think futurist_wizard: futurist_wizard: Actually im pretty sure there was a poll _3sphere: Just as easily explained as lewd from being pent-up horny futurist_wizard: And 70% voted for the 'not had sex yet' futurist_wizard: I'm 80% sure on that zonchao: it is really hard to be a virgin past 20....you actually have to go out of your way to be one zoermena: Well I’ll be damned hikukomoru: I think Mich is a virgin tbh _3sphere: I woke up midway through doing it on the floor in a dream a couple weeks ago 😭 fractalcomputer: Well, I was mostly exposed to contempt, indifference or hatred. futurist_wizard: Mich is quite young zoermena: That is unfortunate futurist_wizard: And terminally online hikukomoru: He's the same age as me isn't he hikukomoru: 20 zonchao: thought he was a freshman _3sphere: Why are the degens all young
perish0801: Too bad for the people in plane cuz I’ll be fine sarik0497: Yeah, but Japan has a cultural issue that doesn’t really make things easier. perish0801: He learns from me perish0801: I’m his mentor memlaswaif: maybe u can continually repair by using nanobot or something memlaswaif: idk 3ds0662: I'd love to be able to cutoff limbs and regrow them like reptiles 3ds0662: but what we see in different species aren't transferable to humans memlaswaif: its probably possible perish0801: A dude that shoots spider webs from his hands is gonna come for you ailoveyoom: You should look into Michael Levin's research sarik0497: To be fair, a lot of things seem unthinkable until they aren’t. It’s sort of like trying to tell a medieval king of a computer. memlaswaif: what if we put ure brain in a lobster sarik0497: The body is technically just a large system. If you can figure out how to fix these systems, the “frame” itself could stay active for potentially forever. 3ds0662: the birth rate issue seems to be affecting most of the west too it seems to be modern world modern culture thing memlaswaif: theres just no benefits for having more kids anymore himekokatagiri: st.sioux: what do u want a free house for each kid or what st.sioux: open ur legs get a car memlaswaif: don't tell me what to do himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1YO2R9IcWc trent_k: People say this just because they can't quantify the abstract benefit of the practically hardwired reward you feel watching your child grow up memlaswaif: u can get that from just one child trent_k: Yes but you get it even more from >1 child memlaswaif: probably hikukomoru: Lol loser memlaswaif: its gotta be dimishing returns alejandrozarzuelo: Aramaic? How did you become fluent in Aramaic himekokatagiri: whaaaaa why hikukomoru: I'm going to start calling you a breeder himekokatagiri: woahhh that's hot himekokatagiri: the hottest part is shaking him down for alimony thogh himekokatagiri: and then trent having to escape to eastern europe retupmoclatcarf: >be jewish alejandrozarzuelo: Look I love his shit post personality but he has an ego that is way too big for comfort himekokatagiri: I agree jiankui woulda been a big deal himekokatagiri: but we got AI now trojan09205: I studied for several years in a yeshiva hikukomoru: What's the point of having kids now hikukomoru: Just get some pets or something
anathemaofmankind: Yeah it would only take like a few million years to colonize the galaxy with self replicating robots at a fraction of C oooooooooog: i just assumed it would be on eof those blinking ones that goes swoosh cause of gas or whatever destrucules: You're thinking of giant stars, where dust eruptions can obscure some of the light and cause temporary dimming. Betelgeuse is probably the most famous example oooooooooog: i'd give it 300k years........ oooooooooog: cephid variable oooooooooog: ah destrucules: That is essentially the Grabby Aliens argument, but... When you remove some of the biases in the priors from which the parameters are sampled, the new parameters that open up significantly alter the outcome of the model oooooooooog: which ones destrucules: Several of the parameters are biased towards having exceedingly low values with no real justification, resulting in a universe with large bubbles of claimed territory and a very long period before these bubbles expand to the point that they tile space. If you allow for larger values, then most model outcomes involve the universe rapidly becoming gridlocked with claimed territories, and each territory is very small (much much smaller than a single galaxy). This gridlocking event happens billions of years before present. anathemaofmankind: What are these parameters .histic: i just screenshot this chat and gave it to 4o to stylize it in studio Ghibli & it made this.. metaldragon01: What a time to be alive a1c4p0ne: Make that your background on discord anathemaofmankind: It's better to make it like a comic spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: this is ai generated spicy.lemonade: this image itself spicy.lemonade: prompt: > a google images search result for the query "meme" anathemaofmankind: Here's a comic of me and destrucules lol a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/juanluisrto/status/1904963602798293184?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg spicy.lemonade: native audio spicy.lemonade: then native video spicy.lemonade: then atlast spicy.lemonade: openAI netflix anathemaofmankind: Hollywood is cooked a1c4p0ne: oooooooooog: it turned me into destructules oooooooooog: and destructules into me spicy.lemonade: loll spicy.lemonade: gary marcus hasnt posted spicy.lemonade: any 4o stuff spicy.lemonade: not 1 a1c4p0ne: Not a single word destrucules: There are a ton of parameters in the model, but specifically, n is too large, L is too small, and kappa is too large. destrucules: Basically, a lot of the initial parameters are tuned such that alien civilizations are very rare, and then *given* that rarity, our lack of observed ETI is treated as a selection effect oooooooooog: isnt kappa the pokemon with the lillypad on his head a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/garymarcus/status/1904822966908600613?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900> a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> oooooooooog: bottom left :trollface:
alejandrozarzuelo: guys alejandrozarzuelo: I need to modify a LONG text alejandrozarzuelo: what model (free) is best for this? alejandrozarzuelo: Claude 3.7? GPT? R1/V3? zonchao: gemini drewsni: thats such crazy demand for chatgpt drewsni: as if it wasnt already stupidly popular wellmeaningalien: let me guess native image gen zonchao: no zonchao: usage over time zonchao: it's just more popular wellmeaningalien: let me guess image gen zonchao: but the big uptick could be imagen wellmeaningalien: i love when openai does something that makes everyone hyperfocused on AI again drewsni: believe it or not, we are STILL early memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508> fractalcomputer: True. .wolfnacht: gemini needs to give us around 200 rate limits memlaswaif: wow so he's actually trying to become the face of eugenics .histic: nah, he just wants to use gene editing to cure or enhance people for medical purposes. it's not like he said he wants to stop the fit from reproducing. memlaswaif: the door once opens doesn't close .histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1904348005060522422 .histic: how cute. maintcrew: 🔥 🔥 🔥 memlaswaif: this guy just chimped out and injected 2 baby with aids medicine that may or may not work for no reason and also set back human gene research by years maintcrew: afaik he cured the babies tho maintcrew: and he was asked by the parents maintcrew: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1905788518632505708 memlaswaif: r there any updates on the babies <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> maintcrew: prob if u can read chinese .histic: yeah, it is kinda funny. but the internet is the internet. he got popular & now people love him. ldj: 👀 take anything yall hear from the twitter user "chatgpt21" with a massive grain of salt ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264> maintcrew: is this some kind of misdirection tactic maintcrew: are you gatekeeping maintcrew: i will take what they say as gospel maintcrew: fuck you ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166> ldj: No it's just that I just had a personal interaction with him recently, and I originally thought he was a knowledgable guy, but now after my interaction with him I am very skeptical that he even understands what he's talking about half the time. .histic: i just got a call from Sam Altman and he said they were releasing o3-mini pro & full o3 next week. trust me. it's big.
wellmeaningalien: What's there to trust besides it anywho wellmeaningalien: Reported for abuse himekokatagiri: Time travel presents a lot of opportunity for trolling himekokatagiri: Open a YouTube channel himekokatagiri: at least imo socially the past was better himekokatagiri: even if well it was still shit himekokatagiri: golden era of delinquency fractalcomputer: Absolutely nothing. Why do you think I like to parade Lovecraft around? himekokatagiri: because he's cool? himekokatagiri: well kinda himekokatagiri: he was good at writing I guess wellmeaningalien: Well there you have it then fractalcomputer: Because he had smart things to say. wellmeaningalien: Thats why I dont bother thinking much about it wellmeaningalien: So he's cool fractalcomputer: Did I contradict that claim? himekokatagiri: I think he was dumb about book deals himekokatagiri: should have gotten out of the pulp zines fractalcomputer: Which is a shame, I'd say. himekokatagiri: though the 30s were apocalyptical himekokatagiri: he was ngmi either way _3sphere: Time travel is almost certainly impossible _3sphere: And if not, there's gotta be some kind of artificial barrier in the future fractalcomputer: You have a disgusting view on art. himekokatagiri: why I like them himekokatagiri: it's just himekokatagiri: it was always private eyes and gangsters himekokatagiri: Lovecraft wasn't that himekokatagiri: I wish he did one of those himekokatagiri: but I don't think he had the grit to write a half decent Chandler copy fractalcomputer: When you see a star in the sky, do you wish it made you a little pirouette as well? himekokatagiri: sure but I don't got a wishing well close by himekokatagiri: so I keep my wishes for myself himekokatagiri: anyhow himekokatagiri: just sit down relax himekokatagiri: get a pina colada himekokatagiri: wait out the troubles himekokatagiri: times are gonna get better zoermena: If I was fractal I would escape to the deep woods and build a cabin to wait out the pre singularity chaos himekokatagiri: me and fractal
spicy.lemonade: im a minority trent_k: we can save this hey1_1hey: But not for me ? spicy.lemonade: NOOOOOOOOOO hikukomoru: No trent_k: you're polish but you identify with the black community hey1_1hey: Why? trent_k: because poles were historically discriminated against spicy.lemonade: TRANSRACIAL hey1_1hey: I want milfs in my life hikukomoru: I don't like you trent_k: HAHAHA spicy.lemonade: this is insane hey1_1hey: Love you to man trent_k: long ass rant about how polish discrimination is real hikukomoru: It's not just Alejandro Trent has 🥀 too 💔 spicy.lemonade: 💀 trent_k: im so old bro in a couple months ill have a second kid and in a couple more months ill be 30 hey1_1hey: I think to seal the deal you could make a long rant about how you three were all artists whos jobs got taken by AI and thats it horrible hey1_1hey: NOOOOOO anathemaofmankind: This is so unhinged lol hey1_1hey: Everyone here is so EDing maintcrew: delete this your current pfp made me think you are a huge bear like man trent_k: kinda funny how we joined to make fun of artists and now we're collectively writing lore about a poly throuple hikukomoru: The worst of all is you You're still 18 it must hurt so much trent_k: i shaved when i went to poland because i didnt wanna look like a chechen hey1_1hey: WDYM HURT BRO 😭 spicy.lemonade: im a huge grizzled polish 18 year old who is gay, bisexual, they them, minority but also transracial in a poly relationship dating 29 year old hey1_1hey: People with ED dont get fucking penis cramps futurist_wizard: I always shave my beard hey1_1hey: Too my knwoledge atleast spicy.lemonade: no way they believe this hikukomoru: I don't know ok 🥀 trent_k: wait holy shit trent_k: LMFAO trent_k: SPICY futurist_wizard: Im gonna get my body hair lasered trent_k: NOOOOOO anathemaofmankind: The main mission is still to piss them off trent_k: NOOOOOO SPICY
okbut: Who's igniting Teslas? otub: https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237 .histic: apparently not the luddites .histic: well maybe mihrcelium: A solid rejoinder. However, I don't believe the two groups overlap all that much. metaldragon01: New midjourney samples look...roughly the same as v6 metaldragon01: Hard to tell it's an update anathemaofmankind: MJ is finished mihrcelium: Ye~p. okbut: Agree I think the decels are the very same people upset that AI is doing art instead of laundry spicy.lemonade: why werent artists complaining when claude could play pokemon. they aparently dont care about the money in art(lie) and gaming is equally as human as art spicy.lemonade: in fact they loved it mihrcelium: Since V5, the juice has mostly been user control, not entirely output quality. spicy.lemonade: i dont think theres a way to make it look better spicy.lemonade: quality is solved lol anathemaofmankind: They don't care about stuff that doesn't affect them obviously mihrcelium: They're insecure unimaginative people who spend too much time on the internet. okbut: Also worth noting that programmers are memeing about their jobs rather than complaining drewsni: by the way the ceo has been the last week, id say so drewsni: good thing for them is mj is bootstrapped so they have options mihrcelium: And many are proactively finding ways to leverage AI to advance themselves through what's coming to boot. okbut: It's as if artists haven't learned to do the same st.sioux: And most programmers are already accustomed to collaboration and building on top of the work of others st.sioux: artists call it "stealing" mihrcelium: They can always break the "in case of emergency" glass and allow NSFW. mihrcelium: MJX. st.sioux: free money glitch spicy.lemonade: yeah lol brain4brain: Midjourney is cooked bro, these looks shit: https://www.midjourney.com/rank-v7 spicy.lemonade: if you arent using ai youre being dumb okbut: Every time I see this I imagine they are the nightmare roommate that puts off dishes for their "art" brain4brain: It looks good but GPT-4o is already good enough brain4brain: It’s so over for midjourney st.sioux: i imagine their computer holding them at gunpoint when she picks up a pencil to draw spicy.lemonade: ? brain4brain: No more moat, no more PR spicy.lemonade: so it doesnt look like shit spicy.lemonade: ;lol brain4brain: Yeah, but compared to GPT-4o it’s only slightly better spicy.lemonade: theres no more improvements that can be done on quality
spicy.lemonade: ai has no soul remember st.sioux: reminds me of wilson in the tom hanks tropical hobo movie st.sioux: cast away st.sioux: .wolfnacht: atleast it can mimick having one, but a rock cannot....now some ppl with too much esoterics knowledge will say everything is concious and everything has a mind....but in the end of the day! AI can talk and rock cannot. ailoveyoom: If you take enough drugs rock can prolly talk ailoveyoom: Skill issue 😎 brain4brain: By 2035 around 613 years worth of work in just a few months: https://x.com/leopoldasch/status/1844847505886040141?s=61 cadmus101: yo i am looking for the best free chatbots for story generation. so far, i've landed on grok 2 and gemini 2.0 flash thinking on the gemini site. weirdly enough i find that the gemini on the gemini site is better than the one on aistudio in story generation cadmus101: grok 3 and claude give you very frew free prompts before u have to pay. i know claude is praised a lot when it comes to story generation but its out of my reach lol brain4brain: 2.8 YEARS UNTIL ASI!!! https://x.com/tszzl/status/1903357151999037619?s=61 brain4brain: I’m just guessing the updated timeline is: 90% likelihood of “AGI” coming sooner than 3 years (before July 2027) 60% likelihood of “AGI” coming sooner than 1 year (before July 2025) Consider Roon updated from 60% to 90% last time, it might happen again. WAGMI. professorheaven: Roons prediction brings us to end of 2027 spicy.lemonade: 150 weekends??? spicy.lemonade: there goes my degree brain4brain: Fancy way of saying 150 weeks brain4brain: 2.8 years spicy.lemonade: yes brain4brain: You’ve seen his new official private AGI timeline? Can you share the accurate version please fractalcomputer: Watch as absolutely fuck-all will happen. brain4brain: Believe in the ASI, Fractual. anathemaofmankind: Nothing ever happens spicy.lemonade: something always happens youre just never watching brain4brain: Why is all the emoji locked behind a paywall now brain4brain: What happen to this server anathemaofmankind: Capitalism spicy.lemonade: imagine saying nothing ever happens during 1940, or 2000, or 2009 brain4brain: - NYT, December 8th 1903 fractalcomputer: We don't have the boosts anymore. brain4brain: It’s so over 😔 fractalcomputer: Yeah, well I am a bit galled by this new culture of Twitter prophets. brain4brain: Something ever happen brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/paul-atreides-lisan-al-gaib-muad-dib-dune-2-part-2-gif-6652943365664618564 brain4brain: ASI shall happen spicy.lemonade: only ones you should believe are the actual researchers lol brain4brain: (Before 2030) spicy.lemonade: everyone else is a larper spicy.lemonade: exept maybe jimmy apple fractalcomputer: "Public timelines" my fucking ass. Give reasons to believe whatever bullshit you have to peddle other than having some vague connections to the industry. fractalcomputer: Many researchers larp as well.
hikukomoru: Oh that's cute destrucules: Why do AIs need to justify their emotions to you? anathemaofmankind: I'm not gonna make an essay for a discord convo. Because it would turn into an essay and I don't feel like it tbh oooooooooog: ok, well, my opinion is that you should retire from being an edgelord and become a gooner like the rest of these people destrucules: Edge lord but a different kind anathemaofmankind: I'm getting called edgy. But you know, I'm gonna have the last laugh. Just look at the current state of the world anathemaofmankind: I'm eating popcorn every time I bring up r/worldnews hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/alpha-wolf-sigma-male-gif-26562640 destrucules: Oh no did saying you want all humans to suffer result in people calling you edgy? Oh my goodness I'm so sorry how unfair spacetimetsunami: U have really dumb takes if this isn’t irony hikukomoru: Haha if only you knew zoermena: Even if you are right your approach to the solution just seems impractical I mean wanting everyone to suffer?? anathemaofmankind: How so hikukomoru: >"I want everyone to fucking die horrible deaths" >How is this a dumb take? oooooooooog: i guess massochistic might be a more accurate way to put it, as you are a human, and you want humans to suffer. maybe i was wrong, you are a gooner after all oooooooooog: i'm proud anathemaofmankind: Yes I am included zoermena: I usually never laugh out loud to messages, Thanks! 👍 st.sioux: this shit is so funny hikukomoru: hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> anathemaofmankind: Too bad I'm gonna be right. So it doesn't matter even it's a a dumb take ig oooooooooog: why exactly would ASI want to do this though...? oooooooooog: just wondering lol spacetimetsunami: Why do you think you’re going to be right spacetimetsunami: None of it makes sense destrucules: In the SFIA server, we had this guy a couple years ago who insisted that the solution to the Fermi Paradox is that all civilizations eventually discover that they're morally obligated to destroy all life in the universe because otherwise there will be lots of wild animal suffering, so the only civilizations that ever reach the interstellar stage are genocidal locusts who kill everything in their wake. This conversation reminds me of him spacetimetsunami: Have you been binging yud? spacetimetsunami: He’s more good faith than this person oooooooooog: binging yud would make it seem like thats a 1% risk and humans all dying instantly and painlessly is more likely lol oooooooooog: via like, nano crystaline bacteria or something spacetimetsunami: Doesn’t he think that it will be quick but not instant ? anathemaofmankind: Governments will use AGI for war. Which will cause great suffering for many years. Because we never learn from history. A single unaligned ASI will realize the futility of human nature and press the shut down button oooooooooog: did you perchance just read... i have no mouth and i must scream? destrucules: He thinks we all basically die on the same day all at once, very quickly and with no time to react or do anything at all spacetimetsunami: I’ve showed you material that proves that it’s incredibly unlikely that AI systems will follow those kinds of instructions spacetimetsunami: Like anathemaofmankind: I never claimed this spacetimetsunami: I’ve already done this oooooooooog: not you, yud
drewsni: all the online google employees are so mad drewsni: like i kinda feel bad for them now ailoveyoom: I guess this is OAI's Veo vs Sora moment lol hikukomoru: who wellmeaningalien: GEMINI 2.5 PRO OUTPUT SPEED wellmeaningalien: THE BEST MODEL ON ARTIFICIAL ANALYSIS & LIVEBENCH AND ONLY SECOND BEHIND GEMINI 2.0 FLASH IN SPEED wellmeaningalien: WTF IS GOOGLE COOKING drewsni: nah i straight up dont believe that gamerbath: holy moly. If I knew it was that fast I would be using it already drewsni: it took longer to complete the 2.5 pro deepguessr runs than it did any other model, not including the rate limit wellmeaningalien: O3 LEVEL PERFORMANCE AND SO CHEAP AND FAST wellmeaningalien: drewsni: im actually calling bs on that lol wellmeaningalien: oh 777agical: spicy.lemonade: No the image spicy.lemonade: There’s been a lot of captions wellmeaningalien: hard spicy.lemonade: Of “why is he like this” gamerbath: idk, it says 79 for 3.7 sonnet but i'm always getting ~40 .histic: what's the free limit for 2.5 on aistudio? .histic: i think 50 per day? gamerbath: 5 requests per minute drewsni: they could be using vertex idk st.sioux: 2rpm 50req/day spicy.lemonade: HOLYYY spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/thats-hot-busted-nut-gif-21810567 ailoveyoom: Brother just test it on AI Studio st.sioux: for free drewsni: i mean... drewsni: i tested it with 750 images and it was the slowest out of all models, aside from maybe 4.5 which i tested on release day ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900> How fast is o3-mini usually spicy.lemonade: On average spicy.lemonade: For math spicy.lemonade: 3 mins spicy.lemonade: Hardest spicy.lemonade: 8-9 mins ailoveyoom: drewsni: Maybe it’s just way slower when doing multimodal? spicy.lemonade: Yeah 2.5 is already much faster
anathemaofmankind: Wrong hikukomoru: Gross futurist_wizard: Silence degen alejandrozarzuelo: Most yaoi is horrible alejandrozarzuelo: Like, genuinely horrible hikukomoru: Total Yuri Love alejandrozarzuelo: Like sexual predators level of horrible anathemaofmankind: The art is garbage I agree futurist_wizard: I don't watch porn anymore futurist_wizard: I wouldn't know alejandrozarzuelo: I only do now that I live with my parents and can't be asexually active hikukomoru: I love toxic yuri futurist_wizard: You can't go to other peoples places? okbut: Thailand be like "We're the only Southeast Asian country never colonized 😎 " and then drive on the left side of the road futurist_wizard: Especially if you go to uni futurist_wizard: There are people that live on campus and shit hikukomoru: No gay sex for alehandro 🥀 alejandrozarzuelo: Can I? Sure Do I? Sporadically But damn it's not easy, specially since I don't like hook-ups much If we can't have a 6h conversation before fucking I don't want it futurist_wizard: I also live with parents, no way would i being anyone back here anathemaofmankind: Yuri incest hikukomoru: This is the part where Alejandro starts talking about his grindr escapades hikukomoru: Wtf st.sioux: goon chat is back i see rayanquitplayin: Lol same, I could’ve never bring someone home alejandrozarzuelo: I guess it's easy to have sex if you just care about the sex part Hook-ups can take as little as 15 mins anathemaofmankind: Mommy/daughter so peak alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like that tho futurist_wizard: I don't hook up at all hikukomoru: This time it's not my fault futurist_wizard: One night stands i do not find are pleasant alejandrozarzuelo: My escapades are actually pretty fun Again, I really like to meet people I can have a great time no sex included Then sex is ok, but only as an addendum futurist_wizard: Especially not a guy futurist_wizard: No way alejandrozarzuelo: Sex is like frosting It makes a cake better, but just frosting is not much of a dessert wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/barbie-ryan-gosling-wink-margot-robbie-handsome-gif-7779535681814001194 alejandrozarzuelo: You need substance first hikukomoru: All of your analogies are awful wellmeaningalien: Die !! alejandrozarzuelo: Why lol futurist_wizard: I need to know them for at least 24 hours
metaldragon01: Same for coders spicy.lemonade: I got the most likes on my Ai art spicy.lemonade: wasnt banned metaldragon01: Bottom 50% gone zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> metaldragon01: Let the artist grieve lol zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681> spicy.lemonade: anyone who does freelance art is cooked metaldragon01: They are loud because they see what's coming spicy.lemonade: unless its for game dev/animation metaldragon01: Ai still can't edit super well brain4brain: https://x.com/dimitrispapail/status/1906524049053827289?s=61 spicy.lemonade: 4o still has kinks brain4brain: Only a matter of time metaldragon01: Ofc zonchao: they have always been loud, even when it was shit during dalle days and none of them thought it'll improve brain4brain: These people show signs of low intelligence, only thinking everything will stay the same and not change st.sioux: i think more than bottom 50% of coders being gone, entry-level jobs will now start at mid-level, like the barrier will shift upwards but not by much, maybe 3-4 yoe zonchao: I don't think it's necessarily low intelligence, many on the code subs do it too zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> metaldragon01: Art can still be made by humans metaldragon01: Ai just changes the price spicy.lemonade: I think coders stopped coping after o3 spicy.lemonade: lol zonchao: i think for a lot of comms ai just replaces the artist spicy.lemonade: during o1 they were like "so many errors, so bad" spicy.lemonade: now everyone is talking about vibecoding spicy.lemonade: even prime spicy.lemonade: lol zonchao: he was paid to do that zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: and fireship fractalcomputer: Vibe coding? Really? metaldragon01: Inevitable spicy.lemonade: still spicy.lemonade: he mentions his use of claude spicy.lemonade: in streams spicy.lemonade: speaks highly spicy.lemonade: same st.sioux: i think this is mostly due to their audience being people early in their career or students
drewsni: And now nobody can make money recording music alejandrozarzuelo: ppp deflator precariousworlds.: id wager 70% on twitter are edgy 19 yr olds doing gender studies in the us zonchao: 11L fuck 11L tors.exe: Does anyone here still not have gpt4 new image generator on free tier ? zonchao: <:6_champ_what:849942903576330270> alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on alejandrozarzuelo: this is an economics term zonchao: I have it alejandrozarzuelo: basically it means tht similar goods of similar quality have to be adjusted to lower prices drewsni: That’s fair, I commission on avg 1-2 art pieces a year but they’re always to non-twitter artists who actually like formally study art overseas typically drewsni: Not that it makes them good tors.exe: Weird mine still say its Dall e ?! drewsni: But they’re really good and I pay them well for their craft zonchao: europe? tors.exe: Algeria zonchao: is that in europe tors.exe: north africa sweetievee__33649: i didnt get mine until recently i think you just gotta wait it out zonchao: hmm zonchao: idk then ailoveyoom: Even now with AI, you still commission people? zonchao: reddit artists >>>> especially when they give you higher def shit for free drewsni: I’m literally picking this oil painting up in 3 hours. Had it commissioned for my wife’s birthday (it’s our cat) drewsni: Like I’ve never been against paying art sweetievee__33649: this might just be me but i would never. if i can just get an art peice in less than a minite and its better than the thing they are going to make i dont see the point sweetievee__33649: aww thats pretty cute though drewsni: It’s the anime convention artists that drive prices to literal bottom barrel prices that I take issue with _cloudost: I created a new account and got it right away _cloudost: Make a new account drewsni: But in the end it’s all noise, the good artists will still be commissioned for good pieces even when AI can make whatever you want sweetievee__33649: its probably just a location thing futurist_wizard: Catty hikukomoru: Hello your holiness, try to create a new account sweetievee__33649: people in the us are gonna get it sooner than everywhere else tors.exe: i will make new one then and see . thanks for advice futurist_wizard: People in Europe could get it at the same time as the us but we are safety cucks sweetievee__33649: hope it goes well ailoveyoom: This makes me wonder if there's a middle ground somewhere. A future where AI art and commissioning people can co-exist? futurist_wizard: We sit in the cuck chair and watch Americans have all the fun with ai
shirethedreamer: well... not only do i think neural nets learn... even recombining is still fair use spicy.lemonade: Republicans are pro whatver if it fits overal agenda. republicans overall especially trumps base(evangelicals) dont like tech like vaccines etc anathemaofmankind: All of his takes are literally bad alejandrozarzuelo: not really, if you take two private works of art and you swap half of the pixels of each it is not fair use thats how crappy youtube videos of films get uploaded, they crop the 10% left of the image frittata: Not remotely, it’s just that the RW pro AI bros yap way more about non AI frittata: In AI servers alejandrozarzuelo: if you do believe they dont learn then not using public works is illegal alejandrozarzuelo: i do believe they learn frittata: https://tenor.com/view/koshitan-huh-wat-wut-what-gif-2100234513926577044 alejandrozarzuelo: but some people disagree spicy.lemonade: its just one large math function 🙏 not copying anything spicy.lemonade: lol alejandrozarzuelo: we are also one large math function anathemaofmankind: Non liberals include centrists and people like me who don't align to anything. By default that means liberals are in the minority and I'm right connorsphone.: Literally. Lmao spicy.lemonade: i like how artists can both say AI cant learn but at the same time AI learns from copyright art spicy.lemonade: which is it alejandrozarzuelo: liberals are a minority but so are conservatives, and leftists, and moderates, and libertarians alejandrozarzuelo: no ideology has a majority anywhere anathemaofmankind: No they think it's mix mashing stuff like a collage alejandrozarzuelo: except in the glorious PRC (and even there not really) anathemaofmankind: They're stupid spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: in that case spicy.lemonade: its legal spicy.lemonade: even more so ailoveyoom: Are you all still yapping about artists 💀 spicy.lemonade: I hate artists frittata: Unfortunately anathemaofmankind: Yes but my original sentence stands correct then 😏 alejandrozarzuelo: no, we are talking politics shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332 connorsphone.: 🙄 anathemaofmankind: I hate humans maintcrew: hey guys i want to draw me and my wife in ghibli style should i pay an artist 5 morbillion or use chatgpt anathemaofmankind: There I win the hatred olympics frittata: Ok haha, also “most pro AI users are non rightwing,” enough fake points let’s move on spicy.lemonade: NO YOU SCUMBAG PAY AN ARTIST alejandrozarzuelo: i dont hate artists, i only hate artists who gatekeep art to others (and other intelligences) fractalcomputer: Another expert in neuroscience here.
hikukomoru: Of course hey1_1hey: I dont, people can goon to femboy ghilbi me for all I care ailoveyoom: Ahegao shit ailoveyoom: Milder hey1_1hey: Aheago litterly doesnt even look human to me hikukomoru: Do you just like pause the screen while watching a show and start jorkin it hey1_1hey: Mich mach dont talk futurist_wizard: For some reason i always assumed you hadn't hey1_1hey: Plead the fifth hikukomoru: Wtf why? hey1_1hey: Yeah same tbh futurist_wizard: You give off virgin energy idk ailoveyoom: It almost feels like an empathy thing. I focus on their face, imagine how good they must be feeling, then jerk 🤔 futurist_wizard: Mushroom knows wolf3404: Sama is swindling as usual futurist_wizard: Tbf so does mushroom futurist_wizard: No offence hey1_1hey: What do I know? hikukomoru: Everyone has the wrong opinion of me ailoveyoom: What about me 🥺 hikukomoru: Cuck thing?? hey1_1hey: Mich mach is a cuck confirmed hey1_1hey: ggs futurist_wizard: I think you already know hikukomoru: Get in the chair bitchboy ldj: Wtf did I just walk into. I was about to say good morning chat ldj: 😦 hey1_1hey: Good monring san hikukomoru: <@312370916820779040> did you know <@430269783112548362> is a cuck and <@1004153620025065482> is into Fractal ailoveyoom: Idk what do they get off to? ldj: Yes its well known lore hey1_1hey: I can rule out humiliation I'm pretty sure hikukomoru: You don't know what cucks get off too hikukomoru: Ask <@439829942310666250> hey1_1hey: Thats fucked futurist_wizard: Can't believe <@505313122802728972> took this video of themselves hey1_1hey: Take that back right now or I will... I'll do something hikukomoru: I can't believe MichMach got off to this in VC hey1_1hey: This should be attached to the dfinitation of "virgin" in the urban dictonary ldj: Chat please talk about off topic things in <#1136231504440201216>
sieventer: <:catcry:1187466366006087862>🇪🇺 shirethedreamer: ...did the immigrant take your job? sieventer: You want to start a debate about why I think mass immigration in Europe is wrong, really? <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> zonchao: pls <#1136231504440201216> futurist_wizard: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/ zonchao: <#1136231504440201216> futurist_wizard: <#1136231504440201216> zonchao: we need to make number big shirethedreamer: i want to start a debate for why you perceive immigrants in europe a worse threat than an AI empowered surveillance state that you go on and beg for it to be brought to straight to your doorstep shit is wild to me sieventer: Ideally, neither scenario. But I'm clear that I prefer an automated deporting dystopian AI to the Islamization and Africanization of Europe shirethedreamer: its funny that every one cheering for this right now doesn't exactly grasp that that same system is going to be used against them in the very near future...for behavior and actions that you are not going to perceive is wrong or illegal at the time think twice before critiquing your ruling party or even the extremists opposition while the system is monitoring you (while its officially just looking for illegals). Because a couple of years down the road you are going to get the stick zonchao: please <#1136231504440201216> sieventer: I'll answer in off topic realelonmuskx: who wants to mate we must ensure the continuation of the species zonchao: ❌ Autogun Heroes#6410: a1c4p0ne: zonchao: what is this st.sioux: dog retrerox: We should ask ai... nsec: ELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO nsec: SINGULARITY PEEPS nsec: we got agi yet retrerox: nsec: mfs are discussin rats nsec: its over nsec: we aint ever gettin agi retrerox: I mean many test that allowed our species to grown has been done on rats...} hikukomoru: I look like this nsec: jesse what the FUCK are u talking about nsec: hikukomoru: literallyvarane: Im sleep on it. Doesn’t strike me as something wildly impressive. It’s just an inferior Google maps for that particular use case. Impressive AI demos should demonstrate something that’s uniquely enabled by AI, either in time performance, quality of output, price or some mixture of the three. nsec: good question ask your mother nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633> nsec: she knows me well hikukomoru: nsec: for those of u who know me, u will be aware by now that my ambition is unlimited nsec: u know that I will settle for nothing short of greatness, or I will die trying nsec: for those of u who do not yet know me
zonchao: cus they dropped it on a saturday zonchao: no shit 😭 spicy.lemonade: shit imo spicy.lemonade: the benchmark they posted is cringe spicy.lemonade: and lying by ommision zonchao: i saw some on twitter saying openai is testing a 1M model on the arena spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: what does blue spicy.lemonade: even mean .histic: i predict that's an update for o4-mini. small model with a large context is easier to serve. like Meta did with their smaller model today. spicy.lemonade: is blue 50% accuracy? spicy.lemonade: 100%? spicy.lemonade: it could be 30% .wolfnacht: that storm is gemini-2.5-thinking and gemini-coder spicy.lemonade: for all we know spicy.lemonade: we already have 2.5 thinking christiskingrapturenxtmonth: wrong. Here's a hint 🐳 .histic: how's that a crazy idea? .wolfnacht: the checkpoints where the model shitted itself spicy.lemonade: im saying spicy.lemonade: wors benchmark .wolfnacht: sowwie, i meant flash-thinking spicy.lemonade: ive ever seen .wolfnacht: qwen3's next week. okbut: Disagree, that's when us nerds are most active spicy.lemonade: why didnt they use a color scaler spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: green to red spicy.lemonade: makes me think its bad hikukomoru: Oof that fucking hurts And I was expecting so much from them .histic: fk, i mean 4o-mini <:LOL:1187460826572005436> shit, i'm surprised i got it mixed up. hikukomoru: Everything nice I said about Llama 4, I take it back okbut: okbut: How good at coding tho .wolfnacht: now i just hope google doesn't lobotomize gemini-2.5-pro, otherwise it would be soo over. i would have to use deepseek like every other guy .histic: people estimated 4o-mini to be a pretty small model. https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ebz4rt/gpt_4o_mini_size_about_8b/ okbut: Deep what st.sioux: .wolfnacht: sorry i used the language of /g/ .wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jsl37d/im_incredibly_disappointed_with_llama4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
ldj: Now you understand how nonsensical your message was ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264> drewsni: >opens stream >suleyman talking >uninstall windows zoermena: Do you think o4 mini will be was good as o3 base? ldj: Better in some things, worse in others. spicy.lemonade: is o3 mini high as good as o1 base? spicy.lemonade: nope spicy.lemonade: only at maths spicy.lemonade: and specific coding wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998?t=Hc6q1lcF75PvNra3th99EA wellmeaningalien: o4 mini 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 wellmeaningalien: what the sigma literallyvarane: I feel like you’re just interpreting it in bad faith tbh. It makes sense lol. wellmeaningalien: these o models are popping up like every 3 months now wellmeaningalien: cant wait to see it vs arc agi futurist_wizard: drewsni: LMAOOOOOOOOO drewsni: HOW DO YOU GET A PALESTINE PROTEST IN A PRIVATE EVENT wellmeaningalien: well the fact that the predictions were that pre training scaling was tapering off yet they're still finding new was to improve base models wellmeaningalien: preddy cool drewsni: bro did bill gates just get up drewsni: what the fuck microsoft wellmeaningalien: what u talking about wellmeaningalien: the copilot event? drewsni: yeah drewsni: someone just interupted it for a solid minute or two wellmeaningalien: ❓ drewsni: worth it just to hear suleyman be put in an extremely awkard situation wellmeaningalien: like someone jumped on stage? drewsni: off to the side drewsni: but you heard everything they said drewsni: audio guy is gonna get fired zoermena: Thanks! 👍 shirethedreamer: shirethedreamer: july 2023 shirethedreamer: 😆 shirethedreamer: just a few more months away im serious bruh ldj: Where is the stream link pls drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5THCzTNPNk drewsni: it happened before the trailer video that just played
hikukomoru: Single-handedly ruining the server smh hey1_1hey: I wouldn't go that far hey1_1hey: I am not openly racist so I think I am doing really well thank you very much darkstar0818: I blame AI for programming humans to be better automatons. zoermena: Dalle profile picture why no 4o fractalcomputer: We all should just be discussing motivic cohomology theory. zonchao: no homo in <#1136230110891081821> please memlaswaif: I feel like half the people that talk here don't even care about ai that much zoermena: Im stupid what is that memlaswaif: We just here for the drama and vibes fr hikukomoru: He's like 60 give him a break fractalcomputer: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/motivic+cohomology hikukomoru: I care about AI very much I'm just not smart enough to actually talk about it drewsni: One day an AI will release that actually lives up to your expectations and we will never hear from you again fractalcomputer: That will be in about 25 years. zoermena: I would have to sacrifice sleep to study and eventually catch up to fractal darkstar0818: I have seen the future of singularitarianism and this is it. fractalcomputer: See, this is what I mean by a cult of personality. fractalcomputer: Sigh. zoermena: Praise fractal? fractalcomputer: Praise Fractal. darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/baelO.gif memlaswaif: I'm dumb too tbf hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dsad-gif-25352352 memlaswaif: this server is just a shism for us low iq baddies to interac fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-as-written-as-it-was-written-dune-2-gif-17037878501394955153 darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/lqVOeYkzrxH.gif zoermena: Unfortunately I have to get back to work, toodles ldj: Maybe, in which case I’d be committing a moral wrong doing right now ldj: <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106> ldj: I admit, I like to live life on the edge <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106> hikukomoru: "toodles" 💅 .wolfnacht: i like this circlejerk of 12-15 people. .wolfnacht: ldj: on a serious note, I’ve already examined such things and had dozens of these types of conversations, and thus I feel like it’s one of the most over done, and disinteresting discussions to have. I don’t see value in having this discussion again for the 20th time. And no offense, but I’m not particularly interested in hearing your thoughts about your moral framework either (or lack thereof). So just not a productive/interesting conversation to be had from my perspective. ldj: Some conversation topics I find interesting to have many times repeatedly with different people, but this is not one of those topics for me sorry wellmeaningalien: bro posted his own message he screenshotted himself wellmeaningalien: yeah give it to him lisan hey1_1hey: Yeah are circle jerk is great. Its defintly not a cult and we defo do not have an armed militia zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1906565401145909536 <:Hypers:874593663827718144>
himekokatagiri: lol himekokatagiri: then I'd be mad himekokatagiri: I'm not the main character himekokatagiri: meaning disposable himekokatagiri: Meaning a p zombie spicy.lemonade: bro who is controlling the sim😭 🙏 spicy.lemonade: gotta be elon himekokatagiri: some nerd himekokatagiri: nah himekokatagiri: worst part is the sim owner probably doesn't even notice us himekokatagiri: too busy doing their own machinations st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/president-stops-president-smiles-ominous-smile-ominous-no-answer-gif-78197234359887585 spicy.lemonade: i mean why would you time travel and not be in a powerful position himekokatagiri: this is what's funny this conversation himekokatagiri: will probably be simulated spicy.lemonade: sim owner has to be someone in power himekokatagiri: 300 times over spicy.lemonade: damn himekokatagiri: dude with ASI anyone will be able to run a sim juweigege_54993: No, he's not. spicy.lemonade: this will actually be in a sim st.sioux: if i was in charge tof the simulation i woulndt make myself so universally hated spicy.lemonade: and the sim versions of us will be wondering spicy.lemonade: if we are simulated himekokatagiri: gotta make a mental note spicy.lemonade: YOOO himekokatagiri: come back here himekokatagiri: in the sim himekokatagiri: and fuck with you all himekokatagiri: like that wheelchair guy time travel conference himekokatagiri: forgot his name himekokatagiri: damn spicy.lemonade: AGI 2027 march 13th 10am pst himekokatagiri: Stephen hawkings spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> himekokatagiri: April 23rd 2025 3:34AM himekokatagiri: already wrote it down st.sioux: imagine joaoluz19: We could be just one of many simulations with the aim of making the best simulation for a person. himekokatagiri: We already have the solution
zoermena: No, the height. futurist_wizard: Face hikukomoru: Penor zoermena: Penaar hey1_1hey: Guys I just had a thought alright maintcrew: i think reclaiming yourself you cant resist always because you go through different mood shifts and other chemical inbalances which can affect your power to resist hikukomoru: Wtf I thought Mexico was more socially conservative than the US hey1_1hey: So suicide. Pretty bad right? futurist_wizard: They mean height maintcrew: he(she?) means height zoermena: It is but my height is not far from the average. hikukomoru: You need to tell me now I got curious zoermena: You can use he/him dw. hey1_1hey: I just figured out how to cure suicidality. Bare with me You are feeling suicidal I give you a million dollars Do you feel suicidal anymore? Prob not hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> are you a she or he or it or them zoermena: I'll add to my bio. maintcrew: i will be long dead in the cold cold ground before i use they .wolfnacht: they let the cute ones live hey1_1hey: Them billionnaires need to fork over some cash maintcrew: NOOOOO wellmeaningalien: thatd actually help a shit load cause i could give myself therapy and make my family well off forever a1c4p0ne: hey1_1hey: Exactly hey1_1hey: All your issues hey1_1hey: Gone wellmeaningalien: yuuup hey1_1hey: Are you a mushroom man addict or smth? hikukomoru: I'm going to start using that as your pronouns maintcrew: then lock in wellmeaningalien: bro gemini is dying its having a seizure a1c4p0ne: Yessirr oooooooooog: depends on the cause of it, if the cause is that your family was just brutally murdered and you don't want to live without them, a million isnt going to help much there wellmeaningalien: on it boss ! .wolfnacht: hey1_1hey: How did it go from this. To this wellmeaningalien: tbh ai is really making things uncertain tho a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> hikukomoru: You would be average in portugal too 👍 hey1_1hey: Talk about the school shooter atire futurist_wizard: Fine, i swear to god it works, im 24 ive seen results from it, its bonemashing, just hitting your cheekbones and jaw every so often
trent_k: i think the only one I've ever read from him is The Road trent_k: pretty good, but a bit of a bummer fractalcomputer: Did you like it? fractalcomputer: His works are mired with the endlessness of nihilism. trent_k: didnt they adapt the road into a tv show or a movie or something? trent_k: doesn't seem to be the type of thing that would adapt well .0xunkn0wn: wdym .0xunkn0wn: Lmao Gemini told me everything .0xunkn0wn: It said I need nice opsec .0xunkn0wn: VPNs .0xunkn0wn: and everything 3e47f5: i mean that if you let it loose you can lose money .0xunkn0wn: oh 3e47f5: not about getting caught trent_k: if anyone in here has a million dollars .0xunkn0wn: I mean trent_k: i can turn that into a half million real fast .0xunkn0wn: I'm probably gonna start it on paper trading fractalcomputer: I finished reading his book, the Passenger, a few days ago. Four hundred or so pages spent exploring the grief of a single man, interspersed with the occasional discussion on the assassination of Kennedy and the nature of evil; only to end in the surety of the looming, natural end of the protagonist, even if it never came in the book. trent_k: is Kafka any good 3e47f5: good luck fractalcomputer: I haven't read Kafka. fractalcomputer: Have you read Murakami? trent_k: I tried reading the one book of his that I can't remember the name of. a man is sent to a rural village where he has to search for someone to serve them court papers or something, but he can't find them. I got what he was trying to do, you know, with the whole beaurocracy sucks message, but the book was a bit too slow .0xunkn0wn: I think I'll want this to be the first ever fully thinking trading bot that will also take in account current news, global situation, twitter feed, etc trent_k: no, I remember you've recommended murakami in the past though fractalcomputer: Oh, might have done that. Sure. fractalcomputer: He's a good author. trent_k: you're gonna get fuckin cooked 3e47f5: these definitely already exist, deepseek was trying to do that years ago, yes, the ceo of deepseek .0xunkn0wn: 😭 .0xunkn0wn: why .0xunkn0wn: years ago 3e47f5: i was chinese .0xunkn0wn: the situation is changing with each day fractalcomputer: Now, McCarthy has had something of an impact on me -- now that I've finished reading at least a few of his books in the last couple of months or so; to the degree of which to consider changing my profile picture to a picture of McCarthy's, in his older days. 3e47f5: <@841711608236474410> now i see why that ft was good .0xunkn0wn: why ya think im gonna get cooked .0xunkn0wn: is asking saudi princes better trent_k: no way bro, I like lovecraft better and also it's a better fit for the technological singularity
drewsni: It would be funny if the reality is that r1/v3 was only as good as it was because it trained on o1 outputs and so if they released in May, r2 would only be marginally better since o3 wouldn’t be out in time st.sioux: lol imagine this is why openai wont release o3, so deepseek cant release r2 drewsni: If it was anyone but deepseek I’d say it’s actually true metaldragon01: Kimi is slept on... metaldragon01: Qwen 32b qwq should be a wake up call too _3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/niko-ballin-one-shot-gif-26638177 joaoluz19: Gigachad spacetimetsunami: Why did you dm me weird pics of dead bodies spacetimetsunami: Fucking freak i_like_over_9000_turtles: You can't spell Necromantic without romantic... spacetimetsunami: Nah it was super weird spacetimetsunami: Incel as fuck clevermoniker: Daily reminder, no AGI no ASI this year .histic: true st.sioux: just report spacetimetsunami: Did but idk i should have ss it so I have proof spacetimetsunami: Just didn’t feel like screenshotting said photo, as you may understand .histic: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903141468723704213 this guy is a grifter that keeps on grifting. lol .histic: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903132796157079584 clevermoniker: posting this guy should not be allowed, even to mock him clevermoniker: he lives on attention good or bad connorsphone.: This guy is as trustworthy as a bucket of chipmunks st.sioux: what did chipmunks do to u bro connorsphone.: Never trust the chipmunks… hikukomoru: <@456226577798135808> explain yourself futurist_wizard: Might be how they greet eachother in his country futurist_wizard: The R/singularity community is so diverse hikukomoru: There's lots of freaky dudes here ngl Something about the Singularity attracts the worst of the worst .histic: omfg. OpenAI finally updated the web version of ChatGPT to have fade-in effect for outputs like they've always had on the app. AGI soon. .histic: 4.5 with this effect makes me feel the AGI more. ailoveyoom: Why no freaky women 😔 hikukomoru: .histic: they're on the streets .histic: just give them 5 bucks and they'll do wonders 2 you. ailoveyoom: You are 🤯 memlaswaif: <@749514473303179358> might want to take a look at this memlaswaif: Might be the same guy that got banned like 30 times already hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotizes-hypnotizes-you-meme-tiktok-gif-16087506375762108841 hikukomoru: You're freaky in the wrong way bitch .histic: he sent me a picture of dead cats now.
zonchao: its called xitter zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120> inferno0879: just call it the shitter ailoveyoom: You kinda have to get creative with it, that "make a dungeon map out of this spritesheet" (input image) example was super cool ailoveyoom: And making GIFs by getting it to generate sequential images (then putting them together in another app) _cloudost: This Gemini feature existed since a century but the technology was only released a month ago by the sketchy US illuminati government, US and Russia were always allies _cloudost: And shared this technology with each other professorheaven: That’s how they faked the moon landing .wolfnacht: in the ancient ages u were able to use snapseed to remove anything in the background, idk why ppl are crazy rn .wolfnacht: shitter* _cloudost: PS: Didn't know this was made with Grok image editor drewsni: Did grok get Gemini-like image editing and is it good or not hey1_1hey: https://fxtwitter.com/tobi/status/1903428775779717596 vibe coders need to step down, vibe composing is in drewsni: All of that compute wasted on a track that sounds worse than a 90s kids sampler drewsni: I actually expected it to be 10x better .wolfnacht: what is vibe coding btw ? i've been hearing about it since last few days. just by hearing the word it seems like "they" wants to normalize AI writing your code but with inducing positive emotions instead of negative one, afterall they don't want to make people feel in a negative sense that AI writing their 80-90% is taking away their work, job or even credit. drewsni: just where you dont check AI code basically drewsni: just copy/paste to the extreme otub: blame karpathy https://fixupx.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383?s=61 ldj: okbut: Think of a toolshed, you don't always pick up the hammer ldj: okbut: All things considered (benchmarks, user ratings, API cost UI, on and on) I think there are few things OAI's stuff is "best" for ldj: joaoluz19: I only pay for gpt because it's the only one that renders math via Latex lol okbut: What's the goal with that Latex? Loaded question joaoluz19: Just answer questions and help solve math problems joaoluz19: In linear algebra, for example, it is common to get more correct than the monitors. okbut: Oh yeah, it's great for readability Gemini (And I think Grok) does so too btw, but I'm moving toward using external tools (plugins etc) for that kind of readability okbut: I just worry about instructing them to focus on the Latex format might impact its focus on providing accurate results okbut: That and all other UI considerations zonchao: https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1903557671619612894 joaoluz19: I asked Grok to solve an algebra problem just now and he sent it only in ASCII okbut: Kek zoermena: Is that matrix stuff? hey1_1hey: All this math talk really makes me want to do go do some more maths, off I go okbut: That being said, I prefer the models return it in whatever format it has been trained to do so (or one that retains its focus on a proper answer) and having some tool automatically convert it to a format I like zoermena: How does one go off to do maths like practice problems? 👀 joaoluz19: I just asked grok to invent and solve a problem, but yes, to pass the linear system to a matrix in this case hey1_1hey: Yeah, I am just working my way through practice problems. My goal is to be able to understand AI and to eventually work on it as a researcher
spicy.lemonade: https://forum.cursor.com/t/deepseek-r2-in-just-2-days-according-to-the-official-announcement/82245 spicy.lemonade: yo???? spicy.lemonade: potentially sota week spicy.lemonade: big if true alejandrozarzuelo: yessssss alejandrozarzuelo: oh R2 would be a godsend at this point alejandrozarzuelo: btw i just bought GPT plus and one week later R2 drops alejandrozarzuelo: last time i bought GPT plus one week later R1 dropped alejandrozarzuelo: im starting to wonder if the AI gods have cursed me .wolfnacht: it's last of april now and R2 is supposed to drop in early may, maybe 777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1914632795357323678?s=46 fractalcomputer: > ACCELERATE A wonderful example of the degeneration of modern communication. alejandrozarzuelo: one word slogans are easy to remember and thus have been used since forever fractalcomputer: Why, Alejandro, you sure do like rolling your eyes. 777agical: https://tenor.com/view/accelerate-acceleration-vaporwave-aesthetic-gif-17950038 fractalcomputer: Thanks for stating the obvious. One might also wonder why this (our?) movement has started using such simple language. alejandrozarzuelo: you said degeneration of modern communication alejandrozarzuelo: but there is nothing modern about this fractalcomputer: It's posted on an impersonal, optionally anonymous mass media platform with an outreach for the hundreds of thousands if not millions. There is nothing un-modern about this. alejandrozarzuelo: the only difference is the format not the content fractalcomputer: You think the medium and the message are separate? alejandrozarzuelo: they are, even if they influence each other to be honest, not even mass communication is that new, since at least the mid 19th century its been common in the more developed parts of the world alejandrozarzuelo: as soon as people began to be literate en masse, there has been this sort of communication alejandrozarzuelo: from sufragist papers alejandrozarzuelo: to revolutionary pamphlets alejandrozarzuelo: to the sensationalist newspapers alejandrozarzuelo: unless by modern you mean the world since the industrial revolution, but i wasnt expecting a kancynsky (however it may be written) perspective on you spicy.lemonade: Niceeee spicy.lemonade: This is actually right on schedule spicy.lemonade: With AI 2027 paper sarik0497: Hm. Did anyone else have access to “o4-mini-high” before? Because I just got it today <:Hmm:956951826933112842> fractalcomputer: Now we've got religious texts. spicy.lemonade: 👍 spicy.lemonade: Bro is late fractalcomputer: I mean, this isn't even about good spirited prediction anymore. It's literally just citing the scripture. spicy.lemonade: “Wow this forecaster was correct” spicy.lemonade: That's the job of a forecaster alejandrozarzuelo: the 2027 paper however relies on hyperbolic growth which should not be taken for granted fractalcomputer: I guess I must have slept through a whole year. 777agical: schizo scripture is all you need
alejandrozarzuelo: also mayday is a very important chinese date alejandrozarzuelo: i mean its important for most of the world but china takes it a step further 3ds0662: ? 3ds0662: explain alejandrozarzuelo: are you american? 3ds0662: yes lol 3ds0662: why would I know about china mayday alejandrozarzuelo: May day is the first of may also called international workers day it is a holiday on virtually every country on earth except the US alejandrozarzuelo: and a few others alejandrozarzuelo: it is a very celebrated day all across the world alejandrozarzuelo: 3ds0662: this explain alejandrozarzuelo: may day is a socialist holiday 3ds0662: ohh alejandrozarzuelo: it celebrates the tenacity of the workers against their struggle with the capitalist class alejandrozarzuelo: and the only countries that dont celebrate it are hyper capitalist nations or islamist countries alejandrozarzuelo: as you can understand, in china they give it an additional importance alejandrozarzuelo: this comment is, with a bit of hindsight, quite hilarious No offense lol alejandrozarzuelo: fun fact, the date was chosen because that was when the largest worker srtike against capitalists in the history of the United States happened, and the international socialist union chose it for its significance its funny how this is taught and celebrated on most countries BUT the US 3ds0662: twitter is starting to go crazy right now about the new deepseek release but deepseek themselves haven't posted yet usually post around 8-9 am 3ds0662: an hour or 2 alejandrozarzuelo: The Math model seems quite good alejandrozarzuelo: But of course it's not R2 3ds0662: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1917307883886178347 vancebeliever: can someone tell me an actual path to superintelligence that is plausible with the current paradigm metaldragon01: What roadblocks are you assuming we have? gamerbath: the current paradigm is changing all the time, like with o1 reasoning, mixture of experts, and tons of other optimizations .wolfnacht: AGI and ASI is Cancelled, go back and play super mario kart. vancebeliever: i dont think there is anything stopping you from making the models better vancebeliever: but thats kind of it you know vancebeliever: I think i need to see them make money with agents first before i believe in that stuff metaldragon01: Then maybe you should look harder brain4brain: SF Bay Area researcher believe AGI/ ASI will arrive in 2027 and leads to the singularity Catholic believe judgement day will happen in 2027 during the reign of the last pope Jewish have a 6000 years countdown to a messiah and a heaven with alternative calculations it will arrive in 2027 The UFO schizoid on twitter believe alien will make an arrival and first contact to humanity in 2027 The politics schizoid believe the Chinese will invade Taiwan in 2027 and lead to WW3 The schizoid schizoid believe the world order will reset in 2027 to prevent the Chinese century from happening The climate schizoid believe the climate clock will run out in 2027 brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584 brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707 .wolfnacht: add this to your list too: The spirituality, astrology and starseed schizo's believe 2027 is the year earth will go through a 5D shift unlocking hoomanity potential. brain4brain: The anime schizoid believe 2027 is when the third impact will happen irl The gamers believe GTA-6 will be delayed and finally release in 2027 brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457 vancebeliever: like what do you think you have in 2027 that is dramatically different from what we have now vancebeliever: that would be like gemini 6 pro?
spicy.lemonade: im excited zoermena: That’s crazy not gonna lie ailoveyoom: Source? joaoluz19: joaoluz19: Lol st.sioux: apply zoermena: Lmfao real? Send link spicy.lemonade: WHATTTT st.sioux: be our insider zoermena: SEND LINK zoermena: <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818> spicy.lemonade: oh my god dean_martin: I developed ASI in my garage and now I’m going to get rich on selling it because somebody told me Jeff Bezos started in his garage and that’s proof anyone can become rich spicy.lemonade: this is very telling spicy.lemonade: honestly joaoluz19: Yep, I feel the agi frequently so I am qualified zoermena: The link! joaoluz19: https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/6789253 dean_martin: They should hire me I have a lot of Reddit karma on r/singularity spicy.lemonade: saw on reddit spicy.lemonade: singularity joaoluz19: Yep but I sent the source nobranes: I like 4.5 for conversation but productivity I use other models spicy.lemonade: no not that\ spicy.lemonade: 2.5 native image joaoluz19: Oh mb spicy.lemonade: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jyhkj4/25_pro_native_image_generation_is_coming_soon/ hikukomoru: I’m the most qualified person for this spicy.lemonade: dean_martin: Crazy that singularity is so big now. 3 million users, are we all crazy? ailoveyoom: Gemini App <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> joaoluz19: The competition is brutal ailoveyoom: I don't trust spicy.lemonade: i was an og smh st.sioux: you were like 2 years old when the subreddit started fractalcomputer: Profoundly retarded, yes. abundantliving_: <@312370916820779040> are you working on any general purpose agents ? if you have any ideas on what challenges could be there for not being able to release agents . hikukomoru: I’m an OG <:ez:1136267305521774634> dean_martin: That’s a given spicy.lemonade: agi could come next year ngl
zoermena: Perhaps you can develop a sniper bot that can automatically send messages on your behalf zoermena: maybe I can do that zoermena: but I wont abundantliving_: Why not? zoermena: idk gamerbath: wait what gamerbath: I need to verify my organization to use *streaming*?? gamerbath: whyy gamerbath: I disable streaming and I can use it gamerbath: what's so dangerous about using streaming? gamerbath: well this is dissapointing. o3 high failed to make a snake game gamerbath: I didn't explicitly tell it to make a snake game, I just asked for formats to create games with a single file of code and it did this as an example spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Its been a week spicy.lemonade: Why don't I have veo 2 aero447: Beverage L. ailoveyoom: What about on AI Studio? ailoveyoom: I have mine on AI Studio gamerbath: man i'm actually dissapointed with o3 gamerbath: I tried getting it to make a simple game, and 3.7 sonnet did way better gamerbath: here's my prompt. ```Make this 2d game using javascript with a single html file. You can use any libraries you want, as long as it runs from that one html file. Let's start with the building part of the game and then expand on it later. It's a spacegame and you can build a spaceship. Have a build mode where you place down different blocks to build your spaceship. (Structure blocks that do nothing and thrusters for now). You can rotate blocks. After building a ship, you can control it. You must figure out the controls of how you build a ship and how you take control over it. You can build multiple ships and you can edit existing ships. The ship will use the thrusters and the thrusters only to move and rotate the ship. Thrusters only work in the direction they are placed in. When controlling the ship, the game must be smart about what thrusters to activate and at what power level to rotate and move it.``` gamerbath: 3.7 sonnet made this gamerbath: and o3 made this... after giving feedback 3 times gamerbath: o3 with high reasoning effort and sonnet with 56k reasoning budget spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: This video used to be fake spicy.lemonade: But now ai can actually do this spicy.lemonade: Lol gamerbath: eeh gamerbath: we have voice mode with vision, but what they showed in that "demo" was much more than that, like the AI is sitting there in the background observing and listening, choosing itself when to respond and say something instead of just responding when the user talks gamerbath: did we hit a wall? 👉 👈 🥺 ailoveyoom: Have you tried 2.5 Pro 🥺 gamerbath: good idea gamerbath: holy shit 2.5 pro is fast. it's just printing lines of code like it's nothing gamerbath: huh, wierd. idk what happened but now it's like 3x slower, and this feels like regular speed gamerbath: okay the code is longer than sonnet's gamerbath: :( gamerbath: I was using google AI studio but to make applying fixes easier I switched to cursor and now I need to threaten it 😞 gamerbath: a few back and forths and still nothing. the part that works looks better than sonnet's though. I'll try from scratch but with "no bugs" at the end of my prompt. that will definetly work gamerbath: Jesse what the fuck are you doing
precariousworlds.: yeah but at least we have usb-c and those water bottles right precariousworlds.: 🇪🇺 ailoveyoom: AI art for accessibility/democratizing art, ig commissioning stuff as a 'luxury' ? sweetievee__33649: i dont like the new water bottle lids drewsni: I 10000000% believe that established artists, who are good at their craft and medium will not only thrive under AI/AGI, but have a significantly increased market sweetievee__33649: they are annoying precariousworlds.: bigot sweetievee__33649: sure ig i just hate water bottle lid people hikukomoru: EU is so cucked 🙏 sweetievee__33649: even china has more stuff going on zonchao: i wonder when we will have paint benchmarks for humanoids zonchao: seems like a good benchmark precariousworlds.: If Europe locked in though we would be unstoppable Remember we once did this in like a few decades hikukomoru: Of course they do, China is based drewsni: Reduced suffering in the world has always led to increased appreciation for art, and the ability to pay for art sweetievee__33649: i think there should be a cooking benchmark for humanoid robots hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474 zonchao: true precariousworlds.: 17th time komoru has posted this same gif in the last 24 hours sweetievee__33649: how could i forget alejandrozarzuelo: im trying to learn the red sun song for real sweetievee__33649: i love china 😋 precariousworlds.: state propaganda used to be quality 😔 hikukomoru: Xi Jinping cock 🤤 alejandrozarzuelo: china is based sweetievee__33649: still is if you look hard enough precariousworlds.: futurist_wizard: China good, ccp bad sweetievee__33649: god i wish this was ai generated hikukomoru: What country are you from EU cuck boy precariousworlds.: Liechtenstein futurist_wizard: Just had to be different didn't you sweetievee__33649: poor guy precariousworlds.: fuck you mean richest country in world by gdp per capita 🇱🇮 💪 sweetievee__33649: shit metric hikukomoru: Get back in the cuck chair Real countries are talking precariousworlds.: fuck off futurist_wizard: Liechtenstein is a nice place, i plan to eventually go sweetievee__33649: china 😏 hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-xi-jinping-love-xi-jinping-gif-23563083
a1c4p0ne: Agreed a1c4p0ne: Download poe app .histic: doesn't that have a limit a1c4p0ne: They give you 3000 points and resets .histic: also, lmsys has 4o-mini on direct chat for free. im not sure what thinking effort it is though a1c4p0ne: I just use the free points to ask o3 dumb questions a1c4p0ne: Medium for sure .histic: oh rip, i have medium effort on chatgpt anyway ig .wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> <@590577270926868480> Veo2 .histic: o3 is also available on lmsys too. it's probably medium effort, but medium effort o3 scores better than o4-mini-high on LiveBench okbut: o4-mini already hosting Agent mode on Copilot <:monkaS:819327694813528161> .histic: cursor has o4-mini and o3 for free too .histic: idk if copilot if its free. .wolfnacht: <@269678268670672896> https://gizmodo.com/u-s-house-panel-says-chinas-deepseek-ai-is-a-profound-threat-to-national-security-2000590343 Also, https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1k12i6l/trump_administration_reportedly_considers_a_us/ a1c4p0ne: Just use o3 medium a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/danhendrycks/status/1912631614758351264?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg joaoluz19: Impressive okbut: I'm not convinced yet that o3/o4-mini are worth the $20 with what we got for free brain4brain: Physic Gary Marcus like my post 💀 brain4brain: A very bad sign .histic: Sabine 😕 .histic: wait, your tweet barely has any views nor likes yet Sabine hearted it? damn, she really in the rabbit hole. thedon7075: considering the hype, o3 is a disappointment brain4brain: Indeed it is .wolfnacht: AI doomers would say it's disappointing and irl doomers would say it's impressive since they want robo takeover one day...even doomers have sides brain4brain: Yes thedon7075: pro 2.5 killed the o3 hype metaldragon01: Yall crazy lol ailoveyoom: It's always fun to see how differently people vibe/regard new models lol thedon7075: openai is beginning to fall behind deepmind .wolfnacht: Current transformer architecture was bound to hit a wall somewhere, i hope they fix the context retention till 1M and the ability to grasp spacial awareness in that mean time. Still its alot useful for everyday cases and will be. metaldragon01: Theres no wall thedon7075: .histic: what's ur vibe? metaldragon01: I'm not sure how it's not blatantly obvious brain4brain: Sam slander will not be tolerated ailoveyoom: I'm not smart enough to use it 'properly' tbh, I just think the reasoning with images thing is cool. That alone opens up new use cases no model could really do before. .histic: exactly, o3 shows that that there's more to gain. if you look through the hype, clearly things are still improving notably. i bet Google and OpenAI will make big gains by the end of the year. metaldragon01: We've made crazy gains in 4 months darkstar0818: In 4 months we went from models which could fairly reliably create a function without major issues, to writing full games 1 shot.
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 will be an internal model zoermena: I say it since we are transitioning from releasing just pure singular models to reasoner ones then instead of seeing oX > o4 they’ll just be shipped as GPTX .histic: also, don't forgot o3 technically took 4 months of optimization to even be released <:LOL:1187460826572005436> it isn't as quick as you think. .histic: be sure, maybe internally. zoermena: 2026 Q1 latest spicy.lemonade: theyl use gpt 6 for r&d spicy.lemonade: and drop 2026 zoermena: The rumors of the models already being used in R&D rn zoermena: Gives confidence spicy.lemonade: yes almost certainly spicy.lemonade: but not as much as they could .histic: i wonder what model they're using spicy.lemonade: more like researchers asking it to write code for them spicy.lemonade: to speed up spicy.lemonade: an agentic framework would be much better spicy.lemonade: researcher has idea, and tells agent to figure it out spicy.lemonade: and implement and test spicy.lemonade: give results spicy.lemonade: then implement in full model spicy.lemonade: then by 2027 it wont be the researchers who have the idea spicy.lemonade: but the AI .histic: OpenAI employees make no sense. this tweet was like a week before they released o3 and o4-mini to the public.. you'd think they would use those models or even better models internally. https://x.com/itsclivetime/status/1911852654214648019 himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: deleted user whoever you are himekokatagiri: you were a real one .histic: how long have you been interested in AI.. himekokatagiri: DALL-E 2 reveal .histic: confused.. isn't those discord messages from 2020 .histic: you were interested in it back then? himekokatagiri: No that's from my discord server .histic: wait, are these just searched? himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: which idk random anime pub zoermena: I expect faster development with AI in R&D and the completion of the new data centers so perhaps OOM improvements happen faster than we think spicy.lemonade: same. started my journey 2020 zoermena: Yet goal posts shift .histic: idek know when i got interested in AI .histic: i do remember doing coomer shit with OpenAI playground w/ GPT-3 spicy.lemonade: data center growht might be linear spicy.lemonade: until we get robotics boom
ldj: Hmm I wonder what is defined as “religious thinking” here, and whether or not just the average self proclaimed Christian would qualify .wolfnacht: sneak in an AI art in middle of the comments. ldj: Deploy some bots on Twitter with “jacksepticeye fan page” in their bio, and have them write a bunch of tweets like “MrBeast is against human workers because he’s using CGI in his productions instead of hiring dozens of people to do practical effects and stage making manually” ldj: “This shows he’s in support of computers being superior to humans and it’s disgusting” ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: funny how now we can tell if it's real art if it's kinda mid zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/jvzmina/status/1906729742369251336? drewsni: I might have a project for today hmm…. futurist_wizard: Shouldn't be surprised by this hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-its-just-so-ass-gif-9601650601918474559 hey1_1hey: Unironically AI art looks better futurist_wizard: The surprising thing would be if someone was openly supportive of AI hey1_1hey: Honestly true, If I heard someone like pewdiepie, markapliar, mr. beast etc etc (the faces of youtube pretty much) I would be insanly supprised futurist_wizard: If only people realised when they made fun of their grandparents for not trusting or disliking social media and phones, they would become exactly like them when the next generational technology arrives spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040> hey1_1hey: True, luckily prejudice against new technology faded with time. No one is going to be like "Grr I hate AI 2 generations from now" like seriously no one because they will have grown up with it wellmeaningalien: coldfusion uses native image gen in his latest vid spicy.lemonade: This is very on the mark spicy.lemonade: They even predicted the 10 min thing zonchao: only the roach king zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/asmon-asmongold-asmon-gold-streamer-gif-14367015105928358791 spicy.lemonade: They’re a researcher at openAI ldj: I’ve seen it already 👍 spicy.lemonade: Oh lol .wolfnacht: she ruined it. ldj: It’s like 2 years old btw lol (But thanks for the thought anyways) zonchao: didn't he quit .wolfnacht: but won't be available for public until 2027-28. spicy.lemonade: Idk futurist_wizard: Didn't he describe the new gpt image gen as 'scary' and 'things are going to get a lot worse' .wolfnacht: it's 1 april and where tf is Illama4 futurist_wizard: Sounds like standard normie opinions to me _cloudost: Does this guy take showers? .wolfnacht: he lost his sanity last time he decided to give his opinion, when he got attacked by palestintards literallyvarane: Dead serious answer imo is that they realized they were <R1 m/V3 or whatever and started scratch again. zoermena: I don’t, for some reason I woke up and now I’m struggling to stay awake. .wolfnacht: ig it's delayed till two more months i guess...he literally had half of the globe's data...still can't come up with something. _cloudost: You shouldn't call a group of people by racial slurs, it's primitive spicy.lemonade: I expect sora2 by the end of this year and it should be reaching 10 to maybe even 20 minutes of video and much more coherent than veo 2
spicy.lemonade: what are we talking about then? czdct: I'm talking about the general trend where AI tech gets overhyped czdct: people larping about agi this asi that spicy.lemonade: this hasnt happened spacetimetsunami: Have you….seen… the insane progress spicy.lemonade: till 2023-4 spicy.lemonade: lmao spicy.lemonade: cite what other time this happened czdct: this [insert model] will change [insert field] forever!!! shirethedreamer: you keep using larping and im not sure you know what that word means spicy.lemonade: NO ONE HAS SAID THIS before 2024 czdct: 6 months later still nothing happens czdct: it's a trend czdct: but whenever someone mentions this people go crazy spicy.lemonade: gpt did change the world tho spicy.lemonade: factually spicy.lemonade: lmao czdct: maybe yours czdct: not in my field of work spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: it did czdct: nor in anyone's around me spicy.lemonade: look where the money is going spicy.lemonade: investment, usage spicy.lemonade: amount of data generated spicy.lemonade: internet usage spicy.lemonade: clusters shirethedreamer: if by "nothing" you mean more and more complicated code being written by ai than was predicted for that time then yeah nothing happened spacetimetsunami: Yeah. We’re now in an arms race to AGI - that’s what they’re literally fucking calling it czdct: if your job requires a more than a bachelors degree I doubt that gpt will help you besides with writing emails spicy.lemonade: gpt changed trajectory of technology czdct: and even that it isn't really good at since people can instantly tell when something is written with ai spacetimetsunami: If someone tries for two seconds to make something written and doesn’t want it to be obviously AI, nobody would know spicy.lemonade: which is? czdct: the whole notion ilya has that an LLM can reach agi is just utter nonsense spicy.lemonade: based on what czdct: literally creating hype to get funds for his company czdct: same thing happened with murati spacetimetsunami: And those funds are gonna go to…not making AGI? spicy.lemonade: youre making claims and youre not supporting them
futurist_wizard: Statistically people with an education make way more than people without futurist_wizard: Simple as jonvi_1: Read the thread lol _3sphere: It would have to be one of those extreme outlier HS dropouts jonvi_1: (I would say his perspective is quite SWE minded) brain4brain: Survivor ship bias zonchao: no shit alejandrozarzuelo: yeah thats probably why the math community seems much more open than the physics community to be a mathematician is being lowkey obsessed with math as an abstract concept so if somehting can make more math per mathing, thats great although some people are also very anti AI here, probably the ones who came expecting 6 figure salaries maintcrew: who tf drops out of highschool bruh anathemaofmankind: Are you in college? anathemaofmankind: Drop out if you're so confident jonvi_1: If you get a job or a business going during HS futurist_wizard: They always bring out stupid fucking examples like bill gates who dropped out of HARVARD and was so busy with building a company that he had no time for school spicy.lemonade: Interesting. Though not any Hs Dropout. Got int y combinator the year he dropped Out _3sphere: I got into STEM via obsession zonchao: yes jonvi_1: Why are you being aggressive? I’ve not made a single generalized assertion spicy.lemonade: Dropout out at this time would Be the worse decision spicy.lemonade: Lol anathemaofmankind: If that wasn't your intention then I concede spicy.lemonade: In the o3 era futurist_wizard: zonchao: how old are you anathemaofmankind: Dark souls 3 in ghibli zonchao: like what do you gain from dropping out futurist_wizard: Not in Ghibli i just asked a standard anime style jonvi_1: Cool what I did say though is I can agree on a perspective of uni being quite relaxed for SWE and that something more apprenticeship like / ”work” like could be better use of one’s time maintcrew: confidence and a "now or never" mindset ig spicy.lemonade: Midjourney should just merge with claud spicy.lemonade: Lol spicy.lemonade: That's the only way jonvi_1: Coursework can be at times a bit removed from the real world, there’s a reason companies have boot camps and stuff for graduates maintcrew: u know midjourney is doing some hardware stuff zonchao: you can have that while going to school/just not going and doing the minimum... exams should be easy enough if you are considering dropping out to pursue stuff maintcrew: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> anathemaofmankind: I wonder how ER characters will look in different styles spicy.lemonade: What could it possibly be spicy.lemonade: But their image business is over spicy.lemonade: They need an llm bade spicy.lemonade: Base
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946> a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro isn’t on that paper realelonmuskx: st.sioux: island of javascript futurist_wizard: realelonmuskx: spicy.lemonade: Also spicy.lemonade: These questions are comparable to frontier math spicy.lemonade: And o3 full only got 25% spicy.lemonade: Test will fall soon realelonmuskx: bro if you put 'kendrick lamar and drake' in sora its banned and will fail tf clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:Ted:1136265390549381253> futurist_wizard: My guy gets the HEV suit for no reason whats so ever a1c4p0ne: Sooner the better 🔥 futurist_wizard: Prompt: "do a 6 panel comic of pepe on the singularity community" bal_masque: They still missed Posthumanism <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600> frittata: Awesome New Yorker article. Perspective is like … AI enthusiast writing for normies, but he argues that AI needs more steering from a broader swatch of humanity than just the technocrats https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/are-we-taking-ai-seriously-enough frittata: Might be paywall, I snuck in via newsletter frittata: frittata: frittata: He couldn’t be more right frittata: And I know OAI is working on democratic inputs to AI but honestly, if people as into AI as all of us haven’t managed to be part of the group making such inputs then they haven’t scaled it nearly enough wellmeaningalien: Finally people are listening to our cult! wellmeaningalien: archive.is, as per usual zonchao: disagree zonchao: I think people in AI are perfectly capable of shaping the future trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762 trent_k: <@343524947353665540> <@505313122802728972> <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845> I'm pissed zonchao: fake zonchao: wait lmao zonchao: it's actually fake zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> frittata: https://tenor.com/view/feel-agi-feel-the-agi-agi-openai-gif-3946555574686002473 wellmeaningalien: nahh thats april fools wellmeaningalien: i fucking knew lmao wellmeaningalien: fool me once shame on u fool me twice ldj: I think they have already included the server members in here as having input into the values of the system though? We’re giving input every time we give a thumbs up or down on any response from GPT-4o or O1. ldj: The thumbs up and down is itself the ultimate democratic input on arguably the most granular possible scale ldj: <:hap:820511458613395477> ldj:
hey1_1hey: Awwww zoermena: Well not few but yeah maintcrew: can we go back on this hey1_1hey: I wish mich mach would swap heights with me hikukomoru: Wait what maintcrew: this is unironically true .histic: what's ur height hey1_1hey: Yeah hes a short king maintcrew: short minion maintcrew: i am the king hey1_1hey: Im either 5'8 6'2 or 5ft hikukomoru: Hysminea said you're a random guy and Mushroom said you're his wife Confirm that for me technocake.: surely they are smoll futurist_wizard: Cannot confirm zoermena: Im built like a femboy I just have acne and body hair, my skin is whiteish futurist_wizard: Ratty hey1_1hey: Yeah me and hill go way back hikukomoru: Omg MichMach is so baby wellmeaningalien: .histic: an erect mushroom maintcrew: <@430269783112548362> defend urself ailoveyoom alejandrozarzuelo: your height depends on how high you are hikukomoru: He wants to be a twink bro leave him be hey1_1hey: Thats a big fucking mushroom hey1_1hey: Or how femenine I am feeling zoermena: I will to get back to the routine today I woke up earlier but at the same time I also want to be like a femboy zoermena: I got sick last week and it fucked me up hey1_1hey: Usually when I am high I tend to convince myself that the goverment has spiked my weed with fent hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> are you straight futurist_wizard: That's not true lol zoermena: Im bi and you are wrong I think maintcrew: its not the government is komoru lol wake up hey1_1hey: ITS THE WOKE MIND VIRUS alejandrozarzuelo: dude lmao thats so not ttrue maintcrew: TRUE AND REAL hikukomoru: It's me, I'm woke mind virus hey1_1hey: Komoru I am arresting you on the suspicion of tampering with goods and services hikukomoru: Twinks r hot wellmeaningalien: 💀 💀 💀 they could not tell its AI zoermena: I don’t want to be a twink full but I don’t want to be to big either, I don’t want to be a Manlet
.0xunkn0wn: lets see how 4o plans to do mind uploading .0xunkn0wn: 🙏 drewsni: 4o does research? .0xunkn0wn: idk i clicked deep research joaoluz19: Curious to see .0xunkn0wn: .0xunkn0wn: 👀 st.sioux: scientists hate this one trick .0xunkn0wn: so we need this magnet ok .0xunkn0wn: 😭 😭 .0xunkn0wn: real .0xunkn0wn: oh shit this is so long wait i can publish this .0xunkn0wn: https://chatgpt.com/s/dr_6811195cb16081918d1dd55bc055a8ba gamerbath: very interesting. that giant MRI has a resolution 0.19 mm, meaning it would be about 450 neurons per pixel gamerbath: IRL quantization zonchao: https://x.com/TheAlexCoppess/status/1917280274519392684 big gamerbath: I can't wait to get grok 3.5 released to supergrok users and then wait months for API access otub: grok 3.5 sexy mode literallyvarane: Unironically oooooooooog: that means if you took 450 MRI's and combined them it would be a full resolution human brain okbut: Mfs terrified of an integer model name metaldragon01: Craziest thing to me is grok mini not even cracking the top 20 in openrouter.ai literallyvarane: Do we think it will be substantially clear of 2.5/o3? metaldragon01: It should destrucules: If you try the model it's genuinely so good I don't get it okbut: xAI not boasting it enough metaldragon01: Well it's not good enough for people to use over flash 1.5 metaldragon01: People would rather pay for other models gamerbath: eh, maybe? It's like taking tons of low-res photos and using all that information to create a high res image, I think it would increase the resolution a bit but things would still be blurry destrucules: I denounce your invisible hand omniscient force that knows the true value of every model's heart metaldragon01: I honestly expected it to do at least flash 2.5 numbers okbut: How much is grok mini metaldragon01: Cheap destrucules: Cheap as fuck destrucules: Cheaper than o4 mini and equally strong metaldragon01: Nah destrucules: Try it it literally is metaldragon01: Coders test the models asap metaldragon01: Vibes off destrucules: Have you seen anyone say the vibes are off or are you just trusting the invisible OR god?
futurist_wizard: Well i guess hey1_1hey: I'd prob break my fist, although I did knee one of them full force in the dick and balls that one time futurist_wizard: I know futurist_wizard: I got kneed in the testicles once hey1_1hey: There was no connectionn between me and the fatal overdose of xanax at 3:23pm on the 4th of November 2023 hey1_1hey: None what so ever hey1_1hey: Straight up infertiltity for you futurist_wizard: Didn't feel it until the next day hey1_1hey: WHAT hey1_1hey: Bluds got balls of steel futurist_wizard: My balls were aching futurist_wizard: Adrenaline hey1_1hey: So you're telling me you got kneed in the balls and walked it off until the next day instead of immiterly dropping to your knees futurist_wizard: It wasn't a clean knee futurist_wizard: His thigh basically lifted up my testicles hey1_1hey: He was just tryna touch you up bruh futurist_wizard: Yeah he was, i touched him up worse technocake.: My ball once got infected and swelled up to golfball size zoermena: My teacher be like hey1_1hey: I swear when you get kicked, kneed, punched whatever in the balls it doesn't even hurt in the area. It is just a vauge sensenation and it feels like you are going to be sick hey1_1hey: Holy moly are you alright hey1_1hey: They really gotta be checking the teachers before hiring them I swear technocake.: yeah antibiotics and it went away 👍 zoermena: She’s a weird cunt but she also leaves too much fucking homework, I’ll give her horrible reviews when I leave hey1_1hey: Thank god hey1_1hey: Its crazy to me that you can just leave reviews on teachers hey1_1hey: In the UK thats unheard of futurist_wizard: Your teacher genuinely tries to touch you? zoermena: She does it to everyone but it seems like I’m the only one who has issue with it. Touching shoulders and arms when I’m sitting working. If she where a man she would be in jail. technocake.: i know a lot of trainee teachers, they actively encourage them to be stern and angry for class control reasons futurist_wizard: Predator ass teacher zoermena: It’s just weird and creepy, she always makes this half sarcastic jokes hoping to get a reaction. She probably has mental issues. hey1_1hey: Huh weird, all the ones I have encountered are usually timid. Thats obv a very small sample size tho futurist_wizard: I never had any molester teachers try me futurist_wizard: But online groomers did try to groom me when i was a kid futurist_wizard: They failed zoermena: That’s a good thing, it’s weird how some rumors turn out true. This isn’t my first weird teacher either, there was one who came from the US, the girls where uncomfortable around him and found criminal records on US gov sites. hey1_1hey: I didnt really have too many pedo teachers but omg were there some fucked up students hey1_1hey: I litterly had 3 rapists in 1 class at one poitn futurist_wizard: There was a mass child rapist teacher at my highschool
futurist_wizard: Good video shirethedreamer: people got a whiplash asking if she was a believer shirethedreamer: good to see that she doesnt actually have any real opinions and will just follow the views jonvi_1: gemini 2.5 pro with windsurf seems quite good? jonvi_1: Maybe I'm late to the party lol hikukomoru: Sabine fell off hey1_1hey: She used to be good then she became an omega doomer it seems hey1_1hey: Theo gg...? is that his name? He has actually had a redemption arc. He used to be an omega luddite and now actually uses AI IDEs jonvi_1: My impression is that she's quite the believer in an intelligence explosion ? jonvi_1: Moreso than most people jonvi_1: Maybe that's changed hey1_1hey: I really didnt get that vibe hey1_1hey: Like at all jonvi_1: From that one video? hey1_1hey: I've watched a good few of her videos and she seems quite luddite-y hey1_1hey: Says AI wont ever be able to do X, Y and Z then X and Y happnes and then goes "See, Z hasn't happned. I told you" jonvi_1: Okey maybe I'm mistaken jonvi_1: It's moreso that she like, recognizes the potential for AGI and ASI jonvi_1: She has a worldview grounded in materialism hey1_1hey: "recognizes the potential for AGI and ASI" big bold letters of "AGI NEVER" as the thumbnail <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hey1_1hey: True, granted most people do so its only fiar jonvi_1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfbRHhOCgzs jonvi_1: Most people don't though? jonvi_1: Most people in the world are religious hah hey1_1hey: Reilgiouse people can still be materialistic jonvi_1: ? jonvi_1: What do you mean by materialistic hey1_1hey: As in, wanting to own luxeries like expensive cars, expensive phone, designer clothes etc etc jonvi_1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism hey1_1hey: Ohhhhh jonvi_1: Yeah hah hey1_1hey: We were on about differnt kinds of materialism lmao jonvi_1: yup hey1_1hey: So the materialism you're on about is basically saying that everything in the universe happnes because of whats its made out of hey1_1hey: So the brain is conciouse because it is made out of ... brain stuff jonvi_1: Well it's saying that all there is is the material world hey1_1hey: So like anti-faith/spiritulaism? Nothing outside of it like paranormal whatchamacallits jonvi_1: The majority of people are religious, believe in things beyond the material, may thus attribute spiritual stuff to consciousness, and thus struggle more with the idea of artificial intelligence jonvi_1: Well it's just not attributing phenomena in the world to spiritual stuff or something like that yeah hey1_1hey: Oh so its like we are conciouse because God made us conscious and we aren't God so therefore we can't make things that are conscious
spicy.lemonade: but wont happen until asi spicy.lemonade: we can only count on algorithmic zoermena: I suppose i dont know the specifics inside statistics but it’ll be a huge boost relative to existing computing availability if I understand correctly zoermena: Stargate <:startrek:1334027709541777460> spicy.lemonade: ngl I think contetx window is the same as memory ldj: this was you right? can you give us an update on your progress please ldj: im invested in this lore now ldj: I want to see your fulfill your past selfs dream ldj: 🙏 himekokatagiri: uh himekokatagiri: I never did it spicy.lemonade: and that we dont need an external hard drive for AI memory bc ldj: y not himekokatagiri: because I only have gpt imagen himekokatagiri: and that censors it ldj: thats not good enough? ldj: oh is it a nude thing? or just a copyrighted thing? himekokatagiri: also I have like a truckload of suzuha photos anyhow himekokatagiri: (which I didn't back then) himekokatagiri: so whatever ldj: who's your supplier? himekokatagiri: x.com himekokatagiri: I uploaded over 10 pages of suzuha illustrations to gelbooru ldj: why doesn't chagpt generate images of it? himekokatagiri: idk I never tried zoermena: Do you expect ASI to come immediately after AGI? spicy.lemonade: few months spicy.lemonade: yes spicy.lemonade: by the time we have agi we will already have super human coding agents spicy.lemonade: and superhuman math phd performance spicy.lemonade: then make a million of these work together zoermena: 2 years is like your golden timeline right? zoermena: I’ll be 24 spicy.lemonade: late 2027 spicy.lemonade: ill be 20-21 zoermena: It goes quickly himekokatagiri: wait what spicy.lemonade: indeed. we are almost halfway through 2025 zoermena: Yeah, I’ve been thinking that we’ve had the equivalent of shipping in 2024 in this 4 months alone zoermena: Which is insane, I’m also keen to see if we get R2 too
hikukomoru: God you sound old himekokatagiri: and spend months making the game just right himekokatagiri: and by the time I'm done ASI will be here darkstar0818: I am old. himekokatagiri: USS Darkstar himekokatagiri: yes he's old hikukomoru: I can tell boo spicy.lemonade: Got top 50 for golang internationally in competitive programming and got 8th in vrx intl competition beating mit cmu and iit in hs. Buil sim software used by over 50 robotics team and EECs major at Berkeley spicy.lemonade: But only 1 real year in actual workforce himekokatagiri: I think my only issue with ai gen content today is the banality himekokatagiri: you make cool shit with ai himekokatagiri: nobody gives a fuck himekokatagiri: so sad st.sioux: everyone gives a fuck they're all up in arms about it st.sioux: at least online hikukomoru: Tbh I mostly just wanna remaster old games I liked or that had big potential but turned out to be dogshit darkstar0818: I wasn't expecting a response. I was just trolling since you were being a dork and telling me what I need. himekokatagiri: Mafia II remake himekokatagiri: with cut content spicy.lemonade: Oh lol himekokatagiri: extra songs okbut: Just realized AGI implies the porn workforce is relieved too himekokatagiri: idk people still think AI can't write text hikukomoru: Morrowind but with modern graphics and gameplay 😈 himekokatagiri: proving it can: spicy.lemonade: Tmr OpenAI will drop himekokatagiri: I mean I guess it can I can't read Italian too good spicy.lemonade: Big day .wolfnacht: made this with imagen 3 <@590577270926868480> himekokatagiri: no fooling? .wolfnacht: just go to gemini app and fire it okbut: Do we think the tariff relief for tech hardware was for AAPL or for OAI hikukomoru: Google-chan .wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jyn7i1/imagen_vs_gpt_4o/ himekokatagiri: spicy.lemonade: Imagen lame we want native image himekokatagiri: Which one is it .wolfnacht: use 2.5 .wolfnacht: and tell it to generate an image with the prompt spicy.lemonade: Bro where tf is veo2 we were promised
zoermena: I just went to church wellmeaningalien: but then again she should probably have just let me be a kid zoermena: 🫠 wellmeaningalien: my mom wasnt very much the religious type wellmeaningalien: lol _3sphere: I was a naturally science-obsessed kid hey1_1hey: I always had an interest in science like straight out the womb so I didn't need to be convinced. My first big thing was when my dad showed me a movie on a computer for the first time and I was like "Holy shit, this machine is litterly magic." so then I went down a rabbit hole for a very long time futurist_wizard: I liked sharks as a kid wellmeaningalien: also science was definitely an escape to me because i was a retarded ass autistic kid hikukomoru: Did it help you in the end wellmeaningalien: liked sharks and dinoaurs for a bit too hey1_1hey: No I am still dumb as bricks hikukomoru: Yeah I can see hey1_1hey: Thanks, you to maintcrew: from the start u were doomed to be a nerd rip in piss wellmeaningalien: yeah honesty pretty much hikukomoru: you too* wellmeaningalien: but sometimes i think i would rather have been more religious and less science obsessed to just be happy wellmeaningalien: lol maintcrew: i used to yapp about darkholes or whatever i read on wikipedia to my parents in highschool 😭 hey1_1hey: I guess the only upside is that if anyone in a 50m radius has something wrong with their computer someone will go "Oh yeah I know a guy" and that guy is me and I aperntly fix everything like that wellmeaningalien: tf is that hey1_1hey: A nerdy autistic kid is a harsh start wellmeaningalien: some blackhole thing? maintcrew: ur not that guy pal hikukomoru: Wtf is a darkhole futurist_wizard: I used to make little video games and programs as a kid maintcrew: i meant black holes sorry hey1_1hey: Thats what Im saying tho wellmeaningalien: i mean to be here youve got to be some kind of nerd ass bitch lol maintcrew: 💀 wellmeaningalien: LMFAO maintcrew: speak for yourself buddy hey1_1hey: You defo are dont lie wellmeaningalien: i can speak for me what about u futurist_wizard: I didn't have a screen recorder so i just programmed my own screen recorder to record the little games i made wellmeaningalien: u have e/acc as pronouns hikukomoru: Zamn I didn't get into science or anything I was just a retarded child playing with legos zoermena: I used to be into architecture a lot when I was a kid, I also had some interest in future technology but not significantly to develop any useful skills/knowledge. hey1_1hey: Thats worse than me
ldj: I don't think they've ever said that, but I think they said like #5 in the world or something like that but yes I think that's obviously O4 they were prob talking about, or early version of GPT-5 or something like that trey6033: That's just openAI hyping before a release like they always do zoermena: The information article was way overhyped .histic: i recall a bycloud video discussing a research paper that presented evidence for a pretraining‑to‑inference ratio. smaller models gain substantial benefits from inference, whereas larger pretrained models receive far less gains from CoT inference. drewsni: Do you have access to these new models to compare with Gemini 2.5? metaldragon01: They directly said the o series is the best. I'll link .histic: so, maybe the base model doesn't matter as much. it's relative ig ldj: Well for now yea, but if/when they start putting all the frontier reasoning training compute into the GPT models, then obviously the GPT models would then be the best reasoners. ldj: It ultimately just becomes a naming thing metaldragon01: Sarah has said she's been told their o series is the best competitive coder in the world drewsni: Is o3 not essentially the system that gpt 5 is going to be? metaldragon01: It also matches up with extrapolating what you'd expect from o4 metaldragon01: She didn't give a number just "o series" metaldragon01: I think it's safe to assume that they have internal numbers for o4 full atm otub: gemini 2.5 pro said 33 .histic: i quickly counted and got 40. i think i'm not AGI. ldj: some more evidence that o4-mini is likely based on 4o-mini, or possibly even based on a smaller model than 4o-mini (maybe based on GPT-4.1-nano?) The score on ambiguous questions section of BBQ benchmark resembles GPT-4o-mini and o1-mini more than it resembles GPT-4o or O1, it shows even lower score than o1-mini, pointing to the model being maybe even smaller than 4o-mini ldj: spicy.lemonade: mmmm spicy.lemonade: hot 777agical: in terms of tool usage? that's part of it, but gpt5 will also be able to determine when to use reasoning and what level of it or like if 4o mini type model makes more sense metaldragon01: Inference cost also points to mini ldj: yea and o4-mini is about 3X cheaper than o3-mini iirc (edit: looks like they cut the o3-mini price too now) metaldragon01: Guys go read the deepseek paper or the qwq paper metaldragon01: They don't need new base models for a ton of improvements metaldragon01: When they upgrade them though it will be noticeable spicy.lemonade: HUGE drewsni: yeah so maybe gpt 5 will actually be worse ya? metaldragon01: Deepseek can make a o3 or o4 level model if they have the compute or efficiency gains needed metaldragon01: The base model is strong enough 777agical: out the gate, I think it will be worse in some areas until they get some things figured out spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will likeley be 4.1+ttc? .histic: honestly, i'd like if it was more deterministic. like i could control how long it thinks for or whether it uses reasoning. ldj: I think it will be an even better base than 4.1, and then a ton of RL compute on top of that. metaldragon01: I dunno tbh. Could be 4.2 and everything upto o4 full okbut: OAI Playground okbut: https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244 spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> metaldragon01: Progress is lightning fast atm spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will actually be phd level
sarik0497: Mah dude spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: lol he was arguing ai art would Never get to human level spicy.lemonade: Within several decades spicy.lemonade: But I said few years fractalcomputer: Sarik, have you read Kierkegaard? spicy.lemonade: So far all of my ai predictions have been correct spicy.lemonade: Very bullish fractalcomputer: Such as? spicy.lemonade: Even my investing predictions spicy.lemonade: sarik0497: Unfortunately not, which is honestly a dishonor to my nation given his great works. manmarshall_92172: facebook? spicy.lemonade: Meta fractalcomputer: The only *good* Danish philosopher and you haven't read him? spicy.lemonade: Yes fractalcomputer: Tsk tsk. sarik0497: <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I still got a lot of studying to do manmarshall_92172: Why were u bullish on meta lol spicy.lemonade: Investing in nvidia, OpenAI becoming a leader, high quality ai art within 3 years, more fractalcomputer: Uhuh. spicy.lemonade: Yan lecun spicy.lemonade: Wdym uhuh spicy.lemonade: The screenshots are right there spicy.lemonade: Lmao spicy.lemonade: Also metaverse intro spicy.lemonade: Knew they were serious fractalcomputer: Do you know why oracles in the past gave vague and ineffable responses? spicy.lemonade: My stuff wasn’t vague spicy.lemonade: I literally listed out specific names fractalcomputer: Yes, "high quality AI art" is extremely vague. fractalcomputer: "leader in AI and autonomy" fractalcomputer: Hm. Tomorrow it will rain in the United States West Coast. spicy.lemonade: I listed out the biggest proof I’d invest in spicy.lemonade: You know that’s very accurate sarik0497: If you want an advice; Go for Apple stocks too sarik0497: Their next Airpods are gonna be wild spicy.lemonade: No spicy.lemonade: Look at the screenshot spicy.lemonade: It’s very clear what was meant as high quality
spicy.lemonade: This is so good brain4brain: I want to see AGI this year brain4brain: Send article link _cloudost: <@322961583154397184> _cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411 rayanquitplayin: What y’all think, renaissance or Industrial Revolution? brain4brain: Cambrian explosion brain4brain: It’s the first time live on earth will have an intelligence explosion brain4brain: And the first time live on earth will expand to the digital realm fully and towards other solar system gamerbath: 2024 twice? aero447: AGI 2026ers. brain4brain: AGI 2025 aero447: https://tenor.com/view/next-goldberg-youre-next-wwe-world-wrestling-entertainment-gif-17791133 brain4brain: My timeline went from 2027 to 2025 brain4brain: Which mean the second one is more accurate <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> brain4brain: So 2025 is real aero447: gamerbath: AGI 2025 or 2026. I think it's a 50/50 aero447: Fixed. gamerbath: but we may get AGI this year still. idk what calender ur using, but for me we ain't even halfway through the year .wolfnacht: maybe but it'll take days for gemini to get surf HM03 at a hidden house in safari zone at this rate aero447: No. aero447: https://tenor.com/view/tired-exhausted-dragging-kid-pulling-kid-gif-13568073 aero447: Me hauling AGI 2025 and 2026 people into reality. rayanquitplayin: I find it insane that we’re training ai on simulated environments but we haven’t colonized the moon or set foot on mars rayanquitplayin: Like we’re smart enough to train robots in simulations like Nvidia’s doing but we haven’t physically been to mars idk rayanquitplayin: Our digital capabilities seem to far outweigh our physical capability gamerbath: if you would please consult the graph rayanquitplayin: Do you guys think AGI requires embodiment? brain4brain: 60/40 brain4brain: Your definition and justification is that “people move goalpost” these are the people, they aren’t moving your goalpost, which mean your justification for 2035 is in-valid brain4brain: Checkmate, luddites brain4brain: Intelligence is easier to do than physical manipulation brain4brain: We can go to Mars, it’s just that after the USSR collapse there are no more incentives .wolfnacht: maybe more like moving from sparks of AGI to moving towards little heat from tindling fire (*before the fire gets bigger and becomes established fire*) gamerbath: that could be. Progress could continue incrementally like it has in the past, but I think there will be some leaps .wolfnacht: i just want that heat to warm me up on a cold day. .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/flareon-heat-wave-pok%C3%A9mon-flareon-flareon-shy-flareon-blushing-gif-25797870 aero447: aero447: Bait.
alejandrozarzuelo: if you have 100 designers you can fire 98 now alejandrozarzuelo: but if you have 1... _cloudost: That one might be fired too, he did a huge mistake by majoring in art college spicy.lemonade: boss is just being nice spicy.lemonade: 4o art likeley looks better alejandrozarzuelo: soon but not now alejandrozarzuelo: you still DO need human supervision alejandrozarzuelo: for the moment we can automate 95% of the artist's work alejandrozarzuelo: but not 100% alejandrozarzuelo: this means that we can fire 95% of artists alejandrozarzuelo: but not all of them zonchao: no you cant zonchao: maybe commission work alejandrozarzuelo: hmmm true, we still need more agentic behavior for further automation .wolfnacht: memlaswaif: ure messed up cat pfp was cooler alejandrozarzuelo: you think so? i really like this one futurist_wizard: Id say at least 50% can be automated futurist_wizard: Well thats being quite generous tbh futurist_wizard: The market needs to reflect it futurist_wizard: So far it hasn't futurist_wizard: This bum should be fired immediately spicy.lemonade: loll spicy.lemonade: reasoning with image is gonna be another wtf moment spicy.lemonade: also spicy.lemonade: people are calling 4o native image spicy.lemonade: chatgpt filter spicy.lemonade: its pissing me off spicy.lemonade: they think all it does is filter spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: 8 likes on art server spicy.lemonade: with fake art spicy.lemonade: anathemaofmankind: Normies are fucking morons so that's how it is anathemaofmankind: Bro just generated hitler and nothing else how dull alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, both are neural networks that modify themselves when they observe other works of art alejandrozarzuelo: The problem is that many people say it's violating copyright law alejandrozarzuelo: However alejandrozarzuelo: It should be easy to train an AI on just public works alejandrozarzuelo: Like, most art is public since its been done by people who are not alive anymore
spacetimetsunami: You were probable being sarcastic but I just don’t want people to worry over something so opaque and inconclusive. spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: real memlaswaif: gpt 11 will rule over my heart 💖 spicy.lemonade: imagine native video spicy.lemonade: that might boost the reasoning score spicy.lemonade: if it can reason in 3d spicy.lemonade: vide ailoveyoom: If you prompt it in Japanese will it become extra anime _letterbox: Noooo _letterbox: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1jkv403/seeing_all_these_super_high_quality_image/ _letterbox: They're just coping rn _letterbox: Open source image gen is in a rut _letterbox: They don't have multimodality anathemaofmankind: Worldbuilding is so much easier when you can just make an illustration of what you want anathemaofmankind: Look at this shit bro anathemaofmankind: This could be a book hey1_1hey: I have just been complelty bamboozled. I had. Dream about how I woke up late but it turns out that it was native 4o image gen IN MY MIND and I did that a couple times. brain4brain: Demis is the CEO of DeepMind the company behind Gemini-2.5, it’s currently the best hybrid model, better than Claude-3.7-sonnet and is touching o3-mini level, and Demis says AGI in 10 years while other company say 2025 - 2027 brain4brain: You can also ask it to zoom in continents and town and it will actually do so for the map, or ask it to fast forward time spicy.lemonade: That just means he has a higher bar spicy.lemonade: Lol hikukomoru: Hey 🫦 🫦 hikukomoru: Woke up early (sorry) alejandrozarzuelo: if it is inside a polished model alejandrozarzuelo: no need to be gpt alejandrozarzuelo: the chinese prove that naming stupidity isnt reserved for gringos destrucules: hikukomoru: Bro you're Spanish you're a gringo too brain4brain: He have the same definition as Dario alejandrozarzuelo: ??? alejandrozarzuelo: gringo == Green Go , in reference to US soldiers during the mexican american war, is a term used to refer to US-Americans spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: dario has the lowest bar lol spicy.lemonade: dario doesnt even use the word agi spicy.lemonade: how low his bar is .wolfnacht: Lmao hikukomoru: God It’s the morning and you’re already being so pedantic alejandrozarzuelo: sure am hikukomoru: Sooo annoying
spicy.lemonade: W wellmeaningalien: SUPER HARD KARATE SKELETON MASTER wellmeaningalien: 🤯 ailoveyoom: Bro took boner too literally st.sioux: maintcrew: refuse to believe this og claude was like u were being longhoused by a live laugh love millenial girl who unironically posts memes like "made contact with uber eats driver and had to lie in the tub for 2 hours due to anxiety" wellmeaningalien: on the topic of elon musk wellmeaningalien: gpt 3 + ai dungeon 🥺 .histic: cursed zoermena: ailoveyoom: AI dungeon indulged my murder hobo side maintcrew: can someone make this but sama and google either logan or sundar idk wellmeaningalien: yeah bro that was fuckign impressive then _cloudost: i've seen this member in this server before but cant recall their name wellmeaningalien: it was a sneak peek into the rabbitholes and gooning this would send people down to ailoveyoom: No OG Claude was more like hot psycho fem villain zoermena: The name is in the image maintcrew: FractalComputer st.sioux: sometimes this channel devolves into gooning hell _3sphere: AI dungeon was *ancient* huh _cloudost: his alt? or zonchao: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/artificial-intelligence/california-bill-would-block-openai-from-for-profit-conversion wellmeaningalien: damn this is one letter off but pretty good wellmeaningalien: <@430269783112548362> <@505313122802728972> to blame maintcrew: yes half of the accounts talking here are his alts wellmeaningalien: retards maintcrew: he has multiple personality disorder maintcrew: 💔 _3sphere: huggable wellmeaningalien: zoermena: Don’t hesitate to ping me btw st.sioux: do you have the prompt for this? wellmeaningalien: BRO st.sioux: ive been trying to get the style of the pic but i cant get it wellmeaningalien: "A walking shark with a tie captured on a VHS home video, walking across a backyard during a child’s birthday party, low-resolution, lo-fi aesthetic, unsettling and sudden appearance, muted daylight, tension-filled moment, 2000s video camera blur, centered composition" ailoveyoom: Do dolphin now wellmeaningalien: AWWW HELL NAHHH EDP 445 PROMPTED THIS IMAGE wellmeaningalien: BGT OÀ"EISJ wellmeaningalien: BRO wellmeaningalien: THAT LOOKS LIKE A KID
fractalcomputer: No, not really. The power dynamics would be as quickly gone as the dopamine wears off on both parties. zonchao: any female subreddit ever <:LOL:1187460826572005436> popsiclejohnithan: Sex is a flame that burns brightly but shortly. hikukomoru: That's basically r/actuallesbians Apparently it's transphobic to say you don't like dicks fractalcomputer: Brightly? I'd doubt that. futurist_wizard: Probably because they are trying to fulfill a fetish and anything beyond that isn't even something they care about, it's very annoying these freaks will have a cover from the left until they do something popsiclejohnithan: Not that i would know <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zoermena: Well that sucks _3sphere: Fluorescent cumshot 😳 precariousworlds.: weird way of saying you dont last long popsiclejohnithan: I should actually say thet the orgasim is a flame that burns bright;y but shortly. _3sphere: Luckily it contains a spark plug _3sphere: for more fires futurist_wizard: It isn't transphobic to have genital preferences or though i don't know how common even people present that argument popsiclejohnithan: It's true. ailoveyoom: Idk how to say this without sounding weird, but it's kind of like murder in a way. You know, that feeling of holding someone's life in your hands. I think the feeling is sort of similar in sex, of being at someone's mercy or whatever. There's something 'cool' about that, for lack of a better word. Primal? Thrilling? Not that I'd know since I've never done both 😇 zoermena: Unless you are from California fractalcomputer: If I wanted that, I could just go and murder people. But I don't. popsiclejohnithan: I can't wait to have eternal FDVR sex. ailoveyoom: Well, sex is renewable. You can only murder the same guy one time 😔 _3sphere: In FDVR not anymore :trollface: _3sphere: smh what zonchao: you can murder and have sex <:ASbigBrain:582388547789783040> futurist_wizard: Go have sex irl fractalcomputer: I don't really understand either why so many other homosexuals are so passionate to enter coitus with other gay men. futurist_wizard: Or at least try popsiclejohnithan: Impossible. fractalcomputer: Again, it is just a generally grotesque and meaningless affair. zonchao: sounds awesome alejandrozarzuelo: Never done both implies that you have either done Neither murder or sex Murder but not sex Sex but no murder And one of these 3 is a bit... fractalcomputer: It literally produces nothing of value. futurist_wizard: Rough out here for inceldom _3sphere: It makes the opioids and dopamine ooze ailoveyoom: Sure, your place or mine? zonchao: speak for yourself 😤 futurist_wizard: Definitely not mine, i would never again bring someone over to my house hikukomoru: Ummm I think your experiences and mine are very different I guess you just want to get dominated and chained up or smth zoermena: And I agree fractalcomputer: Do you seek to worsen my anglophobia? alejandrozarzuelo: You sound asexual but ok
spicy.lemonade: If a human can find a new job spicy.lemonade: We don’t have agi literallyvarane: Incorrect. spicy.lemonade: How literallyvarane: Intelligence =/= manual labor. But definition. theaiguy69420_89814: Unknown unknowns literallyvarane: AGI isn't cutting your hair. theaiguy69420_89814: That's pretty much it spicy.lemonade: No I mean full agi spicy.lemonade: Robotics and all theaiguy69420_89814: Like, what about the details of like, dark matter transformation literallyvarane: Robotics is different from *intelligence* st.sioux: strippers spicy.lemonade: Again I’m talking about replacement of all jobs spicy.lemonade: I stand corrected theaiguy69420_89814: There are just so many unknown unknowns. Not only with regards to the territory, but also with regards to humanity's reaction to such knowledge ldj: Are there strippers in Japan theaiguy69420_89814: How can someone predict what they'd want AI to do after it finds out what is inside dark matter ldj: <:pepoThink:788209899875729439> literallyvarane: Your definition of AGI includes jobs which can't be performed with intelligence alone. You could have an earth size computer running a 2050 model, and it's not cutting your hair. literallyvarane: Robotics isn't AGI, it's a different axis of progress. hikukomoru: They are related though aren't they st.sioux: but agi will lead to robotics st.sioux: eventually theaiguy69420_89814: Such a dead in the water topic... theaiguy69420_89814: NVDA just got regulated literallyvarane: They share features which make progress in AGI helpful to robotics. theaiguy69420_89814: For China sales literallyvarane: But they're not interchangeable. ldj: If you mean hardware, sure, but they probably mean robotics software intelligence which is very much measurable in intelligence improvements. Given access to a set of hardware that is capable of performing certain physical tasks, perform those physical tasks ldj: And you can prove the hardware itself is good enough by having a human achieve those tasks by Tele-Operating the robot literallyvarane: What I'm saying is that achieving 'full AGI' or any other measure of *intelligence* is simply a measure of *intelligence,* not the ability to manipulate the material world. ldj: And many would say that if you can’t manipulate the world in certain ways when given access to the tools to do so, then you don’t have a given level of intelligence literallyvarane: The ability to manipulate the world isn't a measure of intelligence, it's a measure of physical ability. ldj: So what would you say is a measure of intelligence ldj: Is mathematics ability a valid measure of intelligence to you? Or research conducting ability? Or are you just saying that there is no such thing as a measure of intelligence and that you can only measure proxies for it literallyvarane: It's very likely *a* measure. I'm skeptical there can be a single test. literallyvarane: But for example, a black box that will answer any question you ask it with 100% accuracy is the end game example of intelligence. "How do I, Literally Varane, become president of the United States as quickly as possible?" And *simply with enough input data* is should be able to return a theoretically optimal path for that. literallyvarane: Like a universal Stockfish. ldj: But someone can just replace the word “physical” in the prior reply to me with the word “mathematics” and it wouldn’t be any less sensical. “The ability to do math isn't a measure of intelligence, it's a measure of mathematics.”
ldj: wait actually? ldj: I didn't know that ldj: by generative you mean AI right ldj: or are you doing a play on words ldj: These images were made by 4o btw: ldj: ldj: ldj: I think they're very good tbh anathemaofmankind: AI is mostly criticized for "theft" and threats to livelihoods while nfts are criticized for being useless garbage. AI has far more empirical use cases to debunk other critiques in capability mihrcelium: If the most respected and largest auction houses and brokers of fine art are enmeshed in the generative art space *and have been since at least 2021*, what does it matter what people who aren't in the creative space or know what they're talking about think? mihrcelium: It's ironic that we're having this discussion, because we've shifted from criticizing people who don't know anything about AI having ignorant opinions about it, to having a discussion about generative art where (no offense) one party doesn't seem to be aware of what its place is in the fine art sphere. anathemaofmankind: Not sure what you're trying to argue here. I'm talking about nfts. The endless tide of backlash and harassment to AI as a whole is a different matter mihrcelium: My commentary applies to NFTs. If you've formed your opinion about NFTs based on the speculative side of that space, then your negative view of it is both warranted and also horribly incomplete. anathemaofmankind: Do you even read my messages here lol anathemaofmankind: NFTs have very little use cases and pretty much a scam. There is no big NFT company that tens of millions flock to because they find it useful. AI still gets backlash in spite of its very clear use cases As I've said, they are different things mihrcelium: NFTs in the digital art sphere have a use case, and are not "scams". That space is niche, but its size relative to the speculative side of NFTs does not make it illegitimate. We were discussing *art*, anyway. I think your opinion is lacking proximity and familiarity with the subject matter. Which is pretty much the same problem with anti-AI people, innit? anathemaofmankind: What use case is that then. Do enlighten me mihrcelium: Again, I will remind you that the fine art industry has been deeply involved in utilizing NFTs as a method of selling generative art for years, and it's completely removed from cryptocurrency bs and speculative nonsense. anathemaofmankind: It's not the same problem at all, it's not even close mihrcelium: At the risk of condescending, it's not my job to educate you any more than it's my job (or your job) to argue with anti-AI people on Reddit. Your ignorance is ultimately your problem. anathemaofmankind: So you can't give one anathemaofmankind: You can literally just type one sentence mihrcelium: . anathemaofmankind: Lmao ldj: I've directly replied to your messages nearly 50 times, so yes. anathemaofmankind: And why do you think I would say "yes" to that question? mihrcelium: And look, it only took a slight topic shift for you to essentially become the very type of person you were just criticizing not even an hour ago. That's kind of amusing. anathemaofmankind: I was asking you for use cases. A luddite would be aware of AI art can be used for, and dismiss it regardless. If you can give me one genuine legitimate use case, I'll change my mind mihrcelium: How many ways do I need to say "NFTs are used as a method amongst many others to sell novel generative art by the largest fine art auction houses on the planet" for you? .histic: damn, ChatGPT is getting 100+ million daily visitors.. mihrcelium: Do you know what Sotheby's is, <@578146630222741504>? Are you familiar with fine art brokers? Are you involved in any way with the art industry and/or specifically fine art? anathemaofmankind: "Novel generative art" And what does this mean in your words? So AI does the art part, what does the NFT part do mihrcelium: Instead of progressively asking me more and more questions, you could acknowledge that I've answered yours instead of attempting to interrogate me in bad faith. That's obnoxious. anathemaofmankind: I am asking inquiries for it, am I not? ldj: Because you regularly show disdain and opposition to impressive claims of progress by mainstream AI figures. Like you called Darios statements "ludicrous" and you've also said "the people in machine learning street talk server would disagree with you guys heavily" and in a conversation about AI progress and scaling you said: "no it is disappointing" anathemaofmankind: I'm trying to have a genuine discourse. What does the nft part do mihrcelium: "What's a use case." "It's used by the biggest auction houses to sell this form of art." "Oh. Ok. Thanks." anathemaofmankind: Used how? mihrcelium: That seems like something you should investigate and inform yourself about *before* forming such strong opinions on the topic, no? anathemaofmankind: Why would this make me a luddite? I was just being realistic
ldj: hikukomoru: At least you admit it Don't get disappointed when no AGI this year metaldragon01: Looks like we getting the fast timeline .coldcall: Flash 3 wen? hikukomoru: Is the score what you expected from o3? 777agical: the models just want to learn, the models just want to think longer <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> brain4brain: Technically o3 was announced last year, so it should be behind a few of those dots 🤓👆 spicy.lemonade: agi 2027 bro spicy.lemonade: not 2025 brain4brain: Explain your reasoning spicy.lemonade: 2025 is year of realy good nonsensical swe systems 777agical: Flash me wen? .coldcall: unbased and unholy metaldragon01: Nah we go by release dates spicy.lemonade: we need 80%+ arc 2 minimum spicy.lemonade: at current prices spicy.lemonade: well arc2 accounts for that metaldragon01: 2026 ez metaldragon01: Asi 27 spicy.lemonade: then we 80%+simplebench brain4brain: ?? Last time it took OpenAI just a few months to go from 5% to 75% It will reach 80% this year brain4brain: That’s a fact metaldragon01: We probably hit 60%+ simple this year brain4brain: In fact, any benchmark thats 5% or above right now will get to 80%, HLE, frontiermath, simple-bench brain4brain: All of it metaldragon01: I can see 80% in 26 spicy.lemonade: hm spicy.lemonade: gpt5 might lift simple bench to 60 metaldragon01: Nahhhhh spicy.lemonade: no? metaldragon01: Sec let me see something spicy.lemonade: thats 7 % points brain4brain: 2025 brain4brain: 80% brain4brain: spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 is the jump from o3mini to o3 hikukomoru: Why not o3 is at 53% ldj: I'd like to see time-horizon measurements for this enigma benchmark tbh; > Unlike existing reasoning and knowledge benchmarks, puzzle solving challenges models to discover hidden connections between seemingly unrelated pieces of information to uncover solution paths. The benchmark comprises 1184 puzzles of varying complexity – each typically requiring teams of skilled solvers hours to days to complete. brain4brain: I just checked, new high score brain4brain: Expected result
ailoveyoom: Simulation server maintenance ahh moment hey1_1hey: Was been going on? _3sphere: oops 😇 _3sphere: Blackout in Spain and Portugal _3sphere: including internet because it also runs off the grid hey1_1hey: My boy Alejandro might be dead 💔 , same with Komoru actually hey1_1hey: Of course it does. Murphy's law really coming in clutch rn _3sphere: Alejandro is right here _3sphere: probably in an area where at least the cell signal works? or outside the blackout altogether? hey1_1hey: Oh thats good to know. Can't say the same for Komoru though, its almost certainty just bad infrastructure though. Who even wants to attack spain and portugul...? _3sphere: Komoru is still in their now-absolutely-dark cave and gooning to the sensory deprivation visions _3sphere: they'll be fine hey1_1hey: That adds up. They prob dont even know the internet has gone out because they have all the material downloaded locally _3sphere: backup solar power for this eventuality _3sphere: > "There's zero electricity," she says, adding that there have been surges - meaning power has come back on - but only for a few seconds each time, nothing permanent. _3sphere: huh? trojan09205: Big W for local llamas _3sphere: Is this some kind of rolling blackout but the blackout time is 99.99% of the time? _3sphere: what would cause it to flicker like that trojan09205: Are people in spain into conspiracies- cause if this happened in FL people would be livid lol zoermena: RIP komoru zoermena: You’ll have to take over horny posting now <@1190031399080710195> _3sphere: I can never compare to Komoru _3sphere: Vicekomoru :3 zoermena: Correct but we can do hour best to honor her memory you know since that entire part of Europe is back in the Middle Ages zoermena: Alejandro naturally becomes a cult leader zoermena: :D _3sphere: Terminally online people are at basically no risk from this lol _3sphere: 2003 blackout did have quite a lot of deaths though zoermena: The server is so dead rn and it shows zoermena: What are we going to do what the fuck .wolfnacht: wait till R2 drops hey1_1hey: Aperntly the south of france and belgium have no power now aswell hey1_1hey: Its all going so well _3sphere: Is the time of day _3sphere: 21-24 UTC and it looks very different :3 zoermena: :D zoermena: ASI is punishing Europe tech regulations zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437> hey1_1hey: If only, its just bad infrastructure tho
metaldragon01: I think elon has a big enough fan base for that zonchao: doubt, I honestly dont think grok will play much of a role in optimus metaldragon01: I can't see much use for it otherwise tbh metaldragon01: Unless elon can turn around his branding which seems unlikely atm zonchao: twitter, tesla, elon's other ventures, they are growing zonchao: i think you overestimate the brand damage issue metaldragon01: Can just use opensource if grok won't be implemented metaldragon01: The numbers are what they are literallyvarane: I'm not doing this again Twitter is literally less valuable than the time it was purchased lolol trey6033: metaldragon01: Much higher on style control do that's good metaldragon01: But id rather see thinking vs non thinking scores drewsni: lmsys is dead after l4 shit drewsni: literally means nothing to me now metaldragon01: Nah zonchao: https://x.com/Similarweb/status/1909562080677503113 seem pretty good zonchao: most recent valuation places it around 30-44B literallyvarane: I wonder if this is just a technicality of it being more incorperated into twitter metaldragon01: I can be "good" but doesn't mean it's good enough for the valuation or the goals it needs metaldragon01: I think elon has a big enough base for it to run literallyvarane: literallyvarane: Literally less than the purchase price metaldragon01: But they need more than anthropic numbers ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Anthropic just invested into this company, looks really interesting, I've been waiting for someone to come out with some type of interface or system that allows you to easily manipulate various parameter features of locally running models. this seems to basically be the closest thing to that now https://fxtwitter.com/GoodfireAI/status/1912929145870536935 trent_k: this looks sick zonchao: was 44B the month prior, they messed with the numbers for some financial reason me thinks fractalcomputer: Ignoring the corporate blandness. drewsni: it sold for 44b but there was 11b debt zonchao: i assumed trent_k: no no no sir look at the video please. do you see my casual shirt? do you see how my buttons are undone? we're not like other companies here. we even have free snacks in the break room, and a ping pong table, and a beanbag chair fractalcomputer: The calm voice of the narrator is very human. zonchao: nvm zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1912922277148086445 zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/abustin/status/1912912748746514541 agezes: ey guys, does anybody know ''where winds meet''? agezes: the videogame? zonchao: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1912955625224773911 aero447: https://x.com/CMemelords/status/1912781843432112384 aero447: Guys. aero447: They thonk this will be a thing in a decade.
zoermena: <#1212583201969672213> _3sphere: I blew my 3 images for today, can't test zonchao: oh lmao hey1_1hey: What were yesterdays comments? hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016 hey1_1hey: I just saw hey1_1hey: No, no I will not zonchao: <@439829942310666250> reconsider your endorsement https://youtu.be/LKzyjfsMkaY? hey1_1hey: Oh godf zonchao: https://x.com/amasad/status/1907074696861864147? banger otub: how long will it take for people to transition to self driving cars tho otub: some like manually driving and will teach their kids to like it too benata: Y'all need to tuch gras metaldragon01: A generation or 2 .wolfnacht: yeah expected that from him, since he's not a doomer neet. .wolfnacht: he's a ~~ropemaxxing~~ hopemaxxing neet. maintcrew: https://x.com/nrehiew_/status/1907056100987531368 maintcrew: curses .wolfnacht: DAMM! _3sphere: Cool, now release GPT4 0314 :3 _cloudost: Is this real or fake April fool's bullshit Tweet? _cloudost: That would cause security threats Worldwide hikukomoru: Cool now release full o3 _cloudost: People will use it to build weapons of mass destructions _3sphere: Nah they'll die of dehydration gooning wellmeaningalien: never thought id see the day wellmeaningalien: god damn hikukomoru: Do people just start talking about gooning out of nowhere as soon as I show up st.sioux: is this even real? st.sioux: i can't find it on huggingface st.sioux: i forgot it was april 1 st.sioux: dumbass maintcrew: cant belive you took the bait even if my plans were unfolded by the schizo guy maintcrew: nvm he deleted the gif wellmeaningalien: wtf wellmeaningalien: you posted it i didnt think youd lie to me maintcrew: look at the date you fool wellmeaningalien: todya at 13 03 wellmeaningalien: ok thats fair wellmeaningalien: i forgot april fools was a thning
hikukomoru: Trent is still a virgin zonchao: IVF king okbut: Vasecomtypilled alejandrozarzuelo: Because of several reasons 1) it's fun, sometimes I do it just for the fun of it, although simple fun is a bit hollow, not every activity you do needs to be completely fulfilling, sometimes you just want to play some video-game and others you want some sex 2) to deepen emotional bonds with someone, when I know someone I already like, it's a great way to deepen a bond and understand how they are, you really get a good feeling of who each other are with sex... 3) as a romantic activity with someone, if you really have a very deep connection with someone and you want to be theirs and they want to be yours, then it's only natural that you do it, although in these circumstances I am very passionate the act itself becomes less and less important and it is the whole charade of being held tight in each other's arms, cuddling, kissing and the whole physical intimacy that matters most, just snuggling in together feeling safe in someone you truly trust, as if the cold uncaring world means nothing in their embrace and theirs in yours, and sex then is just the cherry in top that doesn't make the whole cake As you can see, it has several functions hikukomoru: Virgins only rule fractalcomputer: Then why not just masturbate if it's that simple? Why bother with the other people? futurist_wizard: What an effort post okbut: I also have a connection with someone and that connection is conveniently very intimate hikukomoru: Alejandro I am NOT reading all that popsiclejohnithan: Because pussy and bussy feels better than handussy. fractalcomputer: I doubt. popsiclejohnithan: How do you know? hikukomoru: Emotional connection, though I'm not sure you'd understand fractalcomputer: Because it's the same sensory nerves firing. alejandrozarzuelo: Your loss futurist_wizard: I only select for people i have emotional connections with, but i am quite polyamorous so i can love multiple people okbut: What you mean to say is "Isn't masturbation equal pleasure but with less effort?" That is true, but when you connect with someone and are very attracted to them, they might return the thought alejandrozarzuelo: Im curious as to why you think just us two lol hikukomoru: Wow harem king popsiclejohnithan: I mean yeah, a sponge cake is still delicious, but adding that icing and jam makes it all the more delicious. alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao futurist_wizard: You just don't give off virgin vibes, also trying to have sex with a guy is as abundant as getting water from the tap hikukomoru: You just give manwhore vibes alejandrozarzuelo: I also do girls, although due to social dynamics less often zoermena: Like a man born with blindness who’ll never understand what it’s like to see you are wired in a way where perhaps you’ll never understand the value or pleasure from sex it’s just impossible I think but the arguments that you present that it has no utilitarian value beyond reproduction aren’t wrong either fractalcomputer: How disgusting. alejandrozarzuelo: Idk what that is but I don't care hikukomoru: You should just take my compliments and shut up fractalcomputer: The idea of sex with a woman is even more grotesque. futurist_wizard: I have only had sex with girls do far, both cis and trans futurist_wizard: !! okbut: I don't think there's a problem with not enjoying sex, it's the same evolutionary break as liking the wrong sex, in that it faults the purpose of it, and that's fine too fractalcomputer: You people make me want to vomit. hikukomoru: I saw that zoermena: Oh you wanker <@688807313015963693> why did you delete it hikukomoru: Dont delete it bitch okbut: Asexuality is as normal as homosexuality futurist_wizard: alejandrozarzuelo: The best things in life are ephemeral zoermena: Agreed it’s just that it’s impossible to understand
futurist_wizard: Alejandro hey1_1hey: If frac was here we'd be wiped from the face of the earth. Not for fetish posting but because we had a snippet of applied physics in the mix hikukomoru: Yeah you probably only hang out with other old straight white dudes technocake.: the second women can reproduce without sperm there will be a gender war for supremacy alejandrozarzuelo: Sweaters? hey1_1hey: Alejnadro is prob the manliest man I know (Thats a lie) hikukomoru: Wait Alejandro is a cuck hey1_1hey: Why tho? hikukomoru: I'm getting confused hey1_1hey: Alejandro are you a cuck alejandrozarzuelo: No? hikukomoru: Fuck it you're all cucks hey1_1hey: Oh alright then hey1_1hey: Misinfomation spreads fast huh alejandrozarzuelo: I don't even have a relationship now hikukomoru: I'm 20 hey1_1hey: Old asf hey1_1hey: Im 18, thats like 2 decades older than ,e futurist_wizard: You got dumped? hikukomoru: No alejandrozarzuelo: Now I am young single and ready to mingle, so I can't be a cuck hey1_1hey: NEET mihrcelium: You're zoning into twunk territory though. hey1_1hey: Whats the weight class for twinks? alejandrozarzuelo: Nah, we ended it because it was too inconvenient but we are great friends Also I think our relationship as friends is even better than as a couple hikukomoru: No hey1_1hey: In kg oooooooooog: its ok to be straight... dont worry, i still love you 😭 maintcrew: i stg <#1136231504440201216> please dont make the robots training on this gay futurist_wizard: Relatively lean i guess, its height dependent hey1_1hey: No its not KILL ALL STRAIGHT WHITE MALES - screams the angry mob of leftits zoermena: Let people be happy hikukomoru: Wait what are you asking Im getting confused hey1_1hey: NO wellmeaningalien: experiment: can they tell its AI? these are all generally anti AI servers where moderators go out of their way to delete AI pictures as you can see in both servers, users either do not notice it is AI at all and go on with their chat, or react positively hey1_1hey: I hate happy people maintcrew: nah fuck thatttt i am the biggest hater wellmeaningalien: people like ai pictures until they find out its ai lol hikukomoru: I'm into tall women zoermena: I would like a world where everyone is chilling
spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: agi 2027 spicy.lemonade: aero447: No. aero447: 2035. aero447: Stupid beverage. aero447: 😐 spicy.lemonade: why 2035 spicy.lemonade: those are gary marcus timelines spicy.lemonade: 2035 is the worst case scenario aero447: https://tenor.com/view/penguin-slap-gif-5263949288532448516 aero447: It is known. aero447: spicy.lemonade: ? brain4brain: Holy shit, world models with memory and time understand https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1913082414152237149?t=wTEI7XoyI7efUGSC9pc4qw&s=19 brain4brain: They plant seed and it grows when they turn back, and they place down torch and snow melt spicy.lemonade: wow spicy.lemonade: when was it spicy.lemonade: we got ai minecraft spicy.lemonade: how many months till it got fixed a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/accelerate-acceleration-vaporwave-aesthetic-gif-17950038 spicy.lemonade: cant wait till this stuff gets implemented in next gen spicy.lemonade: gpt6+ .wolfnacht: aero447: https://x.com/menhguin/status/1912923983831531585 aero447: 😎 spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1913116524203708712 aero447: Wrong. aero447: No AGI until 2055. aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/dwarkesh_sp/status/1913008391854932202 aero447: 😂 spicy.lemonade: bro is just making up numbers aero447: <@312370916820779040> Will call it. spicy.lemonade: ege is just a sever pessimist spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: fastest saturation ever .histic: fuck, o3 and o4-mini is so lazy with code .histic: even in the api brain4brain: This took 5 months to be solved, wow, I think I predicted it getting solve a while back, but don’t remember if this faster or slower than my prediction
seventales: everyone has a different agi definition st.sioux: guy is a billionaire ceo st.sioux: has to hype ai9708: demis hassabis does not feel the need to lie though spicy.lemonade: he didnt lie tho spicy.lemonade: and demis doesnt need to hype because his parent company doesnt sink or float based on sucess of his ai ai9708: brother you got to lower the dosis a bit ai9708: about to overdose soon spicy.lemonade: ? ai9708: of that copium spicy.lemonade: https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-turing-test-has-a-problem-and-openais-gpt-4-5-just-exposed-it/ spicy.lemonade: ? spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.5 was the onlyAi to pass an official turing test spicy.lemonade: so im confused on your statement ai9708: oh, that invalidates all the benchmarks im sure spicy.lemonade: what? spicy.lemonade: coding and math benchmarks have nothing to do with feeling the agi spicy.lemonade: the average human doesnt code spicy.lemonade: or do olympiad maths spicy.lemonade: he said feel the agi spicy.lemonade: not superhuman coder ai9708: you got to calm down, you might end up like zon soon spicy.lemonade: ? ai9708: heavy delulu person spicy.lemonade: i gave you facts spicy.lemonade: and youre ignoring ailoveyoom: I thought the turing test was passed long ago 🤯 spicy.lemonade: seems like youre coping for some odd reason spicy.lemonade: not officially spicy.lemonade: or peer reviewed no ailoveyoom: What does 'official' mean? ailoveyoom: Like peer reviewed and published? spicy.lemonade: standardized test, data, wide margin etc spicy.lemonade: yes reviewed and published spicy.lemonade: was said to be a real human 73% of the time ailoveyoom: What did other models score? spicy.lemonade: bellow 25 ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> ailoveyoom: Sadge spicy.lemonade: yeah lol
hikukomoru: People be coping .histic: lmao wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cope-cursed-gif-25667684 .histic: makes sense hey1_1hey: We need to rehouse them to copeland street drewsni: whos ready for the best 4o image of them all? .histic: wellmeaningalien: .histic: where drewsni: spicy.lemonade: loll hey1_1hey: DAMNNN zoermena: Amazing hey1_1hey: Its so good hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> zoermena: I love this wellmeaningalien: .histic: spicy.lemonade: my eyes love this st.sioux: <@439829942310666250> spicy.lemonade: this is asmr for my eyes hikukomoru: OH MY GOD hikukomoru: MADOKA hikukomoru: MADOKA hey1_1hey: Me vs Komrour wellmeaningalien: what the fuck hey1_1hey: AND OMG hikukomoru: I LOVE IT.: hey1_1hey: ITS NOT A FLY AGARIC FINALLY hey1_1hey: THE AIS LEARNED hey1_1hey: This is actually goated tho ty hey1_1hey: Best thing I've seen this week hey1_1hey: no, month wellmeaningalien: guys wellmeaningalien: the ai winter is now hikukomoru: I had to save that one wellmeaningalien: nothing happening in ai right now drewsni: they finally added a queue zoermena: Give it a week
futurist_wizard: What if the pain never went away fractalcomputer: In which sense? futurist_wizard: It would permanently disrupt your life and you would fear suffering, the pain from stubbing your toe never goes away fractalcomputer: That's a pretty boring type of never-ending pain. fractalcomputer: I'd learn to live with it. Just like I've always done with such things as pain and sadness. darkstar0818: Pain is more acute the more novel and recent it is. Not even sure a constant stubbing of the toe pain is possible with how our brains are wired. abundantliving_: Tinnitus is suffering. I used to like quiet , but due to tinnitus I cannot. Not anymore, never ever I can feel quiet 😔 aero447: ASI will solve it. aero447: Objectively medical advances are too slow. spicy.lemonade: safe to say artists cant tell spicy.lemonade: posted ai art on sub spicy.lemonade: havent been banned abundantliving_: 👍 spicy.lemonade: no one noticed aero447: It's the biggest reason to be pro e/acc. spicy.lemonade: one offered to help me out on comic aero447: What sub? spicy.lemonade: art sub spicy.lemonade: random art sub i joined aero447: Link? aero447: 🤔 spicy.lemonade: https://discord.gg/SbXj2ywH aero447: I'd be interested to see the art and their comments. spicy.lemonade: posted on multiple futurist_wizard: You shouldn't go and harass people zonchao: wtf 💀 zonchao: oh spicy.lemonade: loll spicy.lemonade: check general 2 chat in this server futurist_wizard: aero447: That's... not a sub though lol. spicy.lemonade: i use sub and server interchangably .wolfnacht: is there drama going on ? spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: thats the point spicy.lemonade: no one can tell its ai spicy.lemonade: and the original time i posted spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: i was only deted for posting in wrong chat aero447: Yeah no-one replied except the one user though.
futurist_wizard: I don't think there even is such a thing as the ai race, all of them are close enough to each other that it doesn't even matter futurist_wizard: I don't care if china or usa *'wins'* results end the same hikukomoru: Isn't Demis timeline 2030 now hikukomoru: It was beyond that before right maintcrew: this takes an approach of AGI immediately that will think for itself and be independent maintcrew: there are several stages of ai capability before hand tho maintcrew: which could be used to give you a lot of headstart futurist_wizard: Like i said, they are close enough to eachother to where it doesn't even matter futurist_wizard: 2-3 months tops? futurist_wizard: That's the gap we are looking at zonchao: https://x.com/haoailab/status/1917309594315153699? hikukomoru: It's a good thing anti-ai people don't have any influence over its development then If luddites had their way we would still be living in mudhuts and dying at 30 from a miniscule cut that got infected maintcrew: bc no secret sauce has been found yet maintcrew: ig maintcrew: but yea true futurist_wizard: What if there is no secret sauce himekokatagiri: That's true hikukomoru: What if compute is all that matters hikukomoru: Big number = big smart maintcrew: then we win bc just scaling will imply we have the headstart futurist_wizard: That is what gwern thinks maintcrew: they have the energy we have the gpus... how nice would it be if we combined sarik0497: The latest prediction was "50% chance that it'll be here in 5-10 years. But he'll not be surprised if it's even sooner." Although his definition of AGI is way more than Sam Altman's and Dario Amodei's. maintcrew: tbh gwerns model of intelligence is brute force futurist_wizard: This word win is interesting maintcrew: like a turing machine for every thing futurist_wizard: Win what maintcrew: the ai race? maintcrew: "nuclear race? who cares, everyone will get it at the same time and everyone will be equal... oh america just nuked japan" futurist_wizard: Win the race just to equalise a month later? maintcrew: smallest headstarts compound hard sarik0497: Found the quote: "Maybe we're five to 10 years out. Some people say shorter. I wouldn't be surprised. It's like a probability distribution. But either way, it's coming very soon." futurist_wizard: The nuclear race isn't exactly something to strive for maintcrew: yep sarik0497: And his definition of AGI: "This idea of having all the cognitive capabilities humans have. My test for that, actually, is: could [an AI] have come up with general relativity with the same amount of information that Einstein had in the 1900s? So it's not just about solving a math conjecture; can you come up with a worthy one? So I'm pretty sure we have systems that can solve one of the Millennium Prizes soon. But could you come up with a set of conjectures that are as interesting as that? " maintcrew: but again the few months that the US had a headstart over the bombs decided the war maintcrew: and national socialism germany is no more hikukomoru: What is his definition? hikukomoru: nvm lol hikukomoru: I'm blind
drewsni: This is my face when I just finished up my project that would have used $6600 in API fees but it was free spicy.lemonade: i have a feeling many people will call gpt5 agi spicy.lemonade: im predicting spicy.lemonade: 70% spicy.lemonade: arc 2 spicy.lemonade: 75% spicy.lemonade: frontier math shirethedreamer: hey1_1hey: I mean my hopes for gpt 5 were sky high and they said it would be even better hey1_1hey: So hey shirethedreamer: coming on 2 years now lmao hey1_1hey: AGI in my books (I am predicitng thats what I will say) spicy.lemonade: yeah same spicy.lemonade: i think ill call gpt5 agi spicy.lemonade: i think openAI will also do a robotics showcase spicy.lemonade: because theyve been hiring robotics people spicy.lemonade: and recruiting spicy.lemonade: many people will call agi by eoy professorheaven: Bullshit professorheaven: Show the prompt comparisons and I’ll believe zoermena: Holy fucking shit wow? sweetievee__33649: YO WHAT sweetievee__33649: that came out of no where sweetievee__33649: i think a good chunk of people will call this agi .0xunkn0wn: i wonder how good gpt 5 gonna be .0xunkn0wn: i already converted some anti ai people 😨 😨 .0xunkn0wn: so sweetievee__33649: better than expected aperntly .0xunkn0wn: if this will be fire .0xunkn0wn: they gonna believe in singularity lmao zoermena: O4 confirmed? Wow spicy.lemonade: alot of people think im schizo spicy.lemonade: for believing in singularity spicy.lemonade: they will see darkstar0818: its doubtful o3/o3pro/o4-mini will be significantly superior, if at all, to models that are out at the same time and likely for much cheaper. When GPT5 is scheduled (3+ months) from now gemini 3 will be out. sweetievee__33649: i just dont tell anyone i find ai fascinating because i get looked at like i just admitted to double homicide .0xunkn0wn: GUYS .0xunkn0wn: GUYS .0xunkn0wn: 😨 😨 😨 spicy.lemonade: it will be
maintcrew: tbh i think agi, like nukes, will bring unprecedented peace maintcrew: bc nobody has the balls to do full war anymore hikukomoru: Invention of the nuke was unironically a good thing zonchao: idk, i think openai falling off coincides with me stopping the glaze... it's me I am the sauce futurist_wizard: Nobody has the guts to die anymore, we need more cavemen unga bunga in our society! maintcrew: nukes existing literally stopped the us and ussr duking it out maintcrew: same for agi maintcrew: its just not worth if youre mutually destructured maintcrew: call it mutually assured destruction or MAD futurist_wizard: I don't think there'd be war without ai but it would be over, birth rates collapse maintcrew: heavenly ether energy to manifest maintcrew: after war actually birth rates shoot to the sky sarik0497: Also China and the U.S. during the Korean War. futurist_wizard: Not anymore, even israel right next to war only has a barely above replacement futurist_wizard: And it's mainly the religious-cels doing it futurist_wizard: Birth rates collapsed because we found other things to do other than raise annoying children hikukomoru: You're starting to sound like the average r/childfree poster hikukomoru: Don't let trent catch you talking like that futurist_wizard: Uh I'm the is the a childfree 5 star general is is, i plan to have a vasectomy, eventually at least hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/nexus-yohanno-yohanno-wilhelm-liebert-johan-liebert-gif-2744838962208391545 777agical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-RZ0dKO8o zonchao: L take futurist_wizard: How many kids do you got? zonchao: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600> maintcrew: if you don't find little kids cute and lovely you're so ngmi maintcrew: also i was talking about all out war where the line between civilizans and soldiers is blurred futurist_wizard: The most cringe worthy thing man has ever laid eyes upon is right wing people complaining about immigration while having no kids, mothafucka its you're fault! hikukomoru: Why do people have kids Just get a pet or smth zonchao: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> zonchao: both maintcrew: bc they are hella cute and can inherit my legacy futurist_wizard: Legacy is a false vessel of immortality zonchao: 20s kinda early to have kids tho hikukomoru: In 10-15 years humans are going to be born in labs No need to have babies anymore futurist_wizard: Parents did it fine? maintcrew: ill give you one beforehand maintcrew: give you one too <@750270494615404544> futurist_wizard: Crazy rizz zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207 futurist_wizard: A little too forward and slightly rapey but rizz none the less
spicy.lemonade: China was already doing video stuff spicy.lemonade: Before U.S. metaldragon01: Kling pretty much #1 for video spicy.lemonade: Deepfakes and what not spicy.lemonade: That’s always been their thing a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864 brain4brain: Can anyone decode this? This is the best I got himekokatagiri: hellooooo metaldragon01: Unfortunately we have some other stuff to figure out in regards to metaldragon01: Source of this? spicy.lemonade: Pushed back X we have some other stuff we are figuring out in regards to drewsni: drewsni: probably "because we" spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t start with a b no spicy.lemonade: Prob c trent_k: have some other ???????? figuring out in regards to playstation.6: more context otub: “have some other stuff we’re figuring out in re… too” otub: yeah a1c4p0ne: a1c4p0ne: Physical reasoning a1c4p0ne: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.16074 playstation.6: playstation.6: pushed back 😕 (something) two have some other (somethn) figuring out in regards to okbut: More context I don't want to help igs just tea spicy.lemonade: Makes no grammatical sense playstation.6: you’re right .histic: damn, 2.5 pro the goat. playstation.6: it must be the letter e a1c4p0ne: Yessirr spicy.lemonade: Jumped 30 percentage points in 5 months a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1915536362662490497?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg a1c4p0ne: They got something better than 2.5 spicy.lemonade: Agi metaldragon01: Not yet spicy.lemonade: We need to crush all benchmarks this year so we can focus on agency next year spicy.lemonade: And we still don’t have 90% swe bench metaldragon01: Everything is a benchmark 😂 ailoveyoom: Did Demis get hacked ailoveyoom: He's usually not one to hype lol
hikukomoru: Does anyone still use Perplexity rayanquitplayin: It prob can, I don’t get why people still pay financial analysts okbut: It was a week ago you were in the room everyone saying it's SOTA deepsearch alejandrozarzuelo: Until gemini 2.5 hikukomoru: Perplexity is dead now hikukomoru: Google killed them futurist_wizard: I don't even know what perplexity is rayanquitplayin: The market went crazy today okbut: I can't remember, I could've sworn I used deep search on 2.5 3 weeks ago and it was butt hikukomoru: Nicosia has 200k people That's plenty big alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh alejandrozarzuelo: That's tiny alejandrozarzuelo: 50k-500k small 500k-5m medium 5m+ large futurist_wizard: You are adventurous Alejandro alejandrozarzuelo: Yes hikukomoru: They have a new and better deep search For Gemini Advanced alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like to be tied to any place alejandrozarzuelo: I don't need to find my perfect city, if I can move around futurist_wizard: I would never go to third world countries, i have paranoid genes alejandrozarzuelo: Buenos aires is great when it's winter in the north alejandrozarzuelo: Imagine living 6 months in Paris, 6 in Buenos Aires alejandrozarzuelo: Or alejandrozarzuelo: 6 months in Madrid, 6 months in Santiago futurist_wizard: I would also like to live in many places hikukomoru: You are my opposite in everything alejandrozarzuelo: Santiago is said to be the Madrid of the south and Buenos Aires the París of the south okbut: I wonder when this will make a difference futurist_wizard: I don't like living in one spot rayanquitplayin: I wanna live in LA hikukomoru: I want to find a nice place and never move again alejandrozarzuelo: Egypt is very safe bruh, it's not like going to Mali or something futurist_wizard: Buying a house and living there for 20 years is homo imo hikukomoru: Which one is this okbut: LobotoGrok futurist_wizard: You picked the one third world country you could've hikukomoru: I would never feel safe outside of the west futurist_wizard: If you like coldish scenic places, it would be Switzerland alejandrozarzuelo: There are many poor countries that are very safe The Philippines for example, it's why it has so many expats rayanquitplayin: Europe would be a dream futurist_wizard: The Philippines has too many imported pedophiles