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brain4brain: Nah, level 4
brain4brain: Since Pro current plan is already unlimited usage for man cases
brain4brain: I don’t know what it will be, but for the 20,000$, if it’s like it’s like deep research and takes a long time and assuming 1 hour per task for 1 month, then it needs to be 20x better than current model to justify price
I don’t know how to calculate for unlimited usage
return_to_monke1_33974: i bet Elon is crying rn 😭
okbut: AGI will reprogram itself to be incredibly efficient
brain4brain: ∞1
spicy.lemonade: we need to make systems more efficient smh
spicy.lemonade: about enough to power dim light bulb
spicy.lemonade: human brain runs on 20 watts
anathemaofmankind: It's the level 5 ai
anathemaofmankind: Like make an entire game in one shot
anathemaofmankind: It's going to be an agent that can plan for hours
brain4brain: You will see one soon
spicy.lemonade: no sign of exponential jump
spicy.lemonade: simple bench has only been linear
brain4brain: Simple-bench 85% EOY
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini plays pokemon when
spicy.lemonade: simplebench 61.5 eoy
sieventer: It's a bad test.
sieventer: Since people always say it and I'm part of "people"; I must to say it
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: people always say this is a bad tets but i like it
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
rayanquitplayin: lol
sieventer: ~(˘▾˘~)
sieventer: agi
spicy.lemonade: it always mixes long and short
spicy.lemonade: bruh
sieventer: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1362342599674826925/image0.jpg?ex=68020bea&is=6800ba6a&hm=1903b7980ca1205b6a4b105c0fbec015e636d8a60b7045261ebc56174e8fcf74&
mantegh5061: commies can't build LLMs
rayanquitplayin: The Nordic Model is interesting
spicy.lemonade:
rayanquitplayin: Heck yea
popsiclejohnithan: More than likely it will be something completely new and far more efficient that A.I. came up with.
rayanquitplayin: If anything socialism would work in theory
rayanquitplayin: Lol, I don’t have strong feelings for 1 system or the other
popsiclejohnithan: Elon will be disowning them soon.
popsiclejohnithan: I asked Grok this and they said Socialism.
rayanquitplayin: What economic systems do you guys think will thrive in an AI world?
fractalcomputer: I know I like to glaze Grothendieck here, but I'd still rank him as *the* mathematician par excellence; even the brightest of the garden-variety geniuses do not just shit out 500-page-long musings on some random idea that they had and that happens to revolutionise the field for years to come.
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spicy.lemonade: Investing in nvidia,
OpenAI becoming a leader, high quality ai art within 3 years, more
manmarshall_92172: Why were u bullish on meta lol
sarik0497: <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I still got a lot of studying to do
fractalcomputer: Tsk tsk.
spicy.lemonade: Yes
fractalcomputer: The only *good* Danish philosopher and you haven't read him?
spicy.lemonade: Meta
manmarshall_92172: facebook?
sarik0497: Unfortunately not, which is honestly a dishonor to my nation given his great works.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Even my investing predictions
fractalcomputer: Such as?
spicy.lemonade: Very bullish
spicy.lemonade: So far all of my ai predictions have been correct
fractalcomputer: Sarik, have you read Kierkegaard?
spicy.lemonade: But I said few years
spicy.lemonade: Within several decades
spicy.lemonade: lol he was arguing ai art would
Never get to human level
spicy.lemonade:
sarik0497: Mah dude
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/gang-signs-gif-23644682
manmarshall_92172: I have been loyal since a little before GPT-3's release
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
spicy.lemonade: Was there since the gpt 2 days
spicy.lemonade: I never switched up on openAI
spicy.lemonade:
precariousworlds.: A lot of crazy things are going on
precariousworlds.: I should look more into it
precariousworlds.: i've been to Zimbabwe a lot, it is de facto a chinese colony
There are gigantic Chinese compounds across the country that act as mini-chinese cities. Only chinese workers speaking chinese. Most people work for them
memlaswaif: why take over countries for no reason
memlaswaif: agi will be their main resource they could control everything anyways
precariousworlds.: it is fueled by massive operations in africa
precariousworlds.: how do you think china is building such an insane amount of industry
precariousworlds.: resources
memlaswaif: why though
precariousworlds.: Source: I partly live in Africa
precariousworlds.: it would just be formalised
precariousworlds.: Already happening
precariousworlds.: My guess is US takes southern and east Africa, as well as the west coast. China takes north and central Africa
memlaswaif: why gobble up those countries
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zonchao: 🐶
futurist_wizard: Cute dawggie
zonchao: https://x.com/farzyness/status/1917333264915628308?
trojan09205: Veo 2 animating my dog lol
otub: they can validate any changes they make in shadow mode and collect gbs of new video data all the time
otub: tesla already has the data flywheel
zonchao: https://x.com/iScienceLuvr/status/1917362333984383220? he knows
zonchao: probably just adding lidar to their cars
zonchao: lol
trojan09205: I felt kind of lame paying 2 cents to ask for movie recommendations
trojan09205: So what use cases is o4-mini worth the cost for
777agical: https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1917367274287083983
trey6033: Potentially big
777agical: https://x.com/Waymo/status/1917353329547465210
maintcrew: komoro the transition demon will not get me
hikukomoru: Your balls
hikukomoru: My scissors
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/snip-scissor-anime-mysterious-girlfriend-x-gif-15454612
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-jumping-dancing-meme-night-club-gif-26334109
futurist_wizard: Man i hate gen z
futurist_wizard: A little too forward and slightly rapey but rizz none the less
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207
futurist_wizard: Crazy rizz
maintcrew: give you one too <@750270494615404544>
maintcrew: ill give you one beforehand
futurist_wizard: Parents did it fine?
hikukomoru: In 10-15 years humans are going to be born in labs
No need to have babies anymore
zonchao: 20s kinda early to have kids tho
futurist_wizard: Legacy is a false vessel of immortality
maintcrew: bc they are hella cute and can inherit my legacy
zonchao: both
zonchao: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
hikukomoru: Why do people have kids
Just get a pet or smth
futurist_wizard: The most cringe worthy thing man has ever laid eyes upon is right wing people complaining about immigration while having no kids, mothafucka its you're fault!
maintcrew: also i was talking about all out war where the line between civilizans and soldiers is blurred
maintcrew: if you don't find little kids cute and lovely you're so ngmi
zonchao: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
futurist_wizard: How many kids do you got?
zonchao: L take
777agical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-RZ0dKO8o
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thedon7075: gemini 2.5 ultra coming. coding focused model
metaldragon01: Haven't seen a CEO with better judgment in the space.
metaldragon01: Sama knows what he's doing
brain4brain: OpenAI should never merge o-series and gpt-series to be GPT-5, if they spent all their effort in reasoning model, we would have o4 by now, and it will be clear o5 will be AGI
metaldragon01: But checking api they haven't lost much. People just using deepseek and gemini in addition to claude usage
metaldragon01: Anthropic is the one in trouble atm
spicy.lemonade: so likeley google with a model as big as o3 would be much better
metaldragon01: Yeap
spicy.lemonade: well gemini is much cheaper
metaldragon01: Bruh they ain't sports teams. We all win either way
brain4brain:
brain4brain: Trust OpenAI. GPT-5 shall silence all doubters
metaldragon01: The grok with no api to verify
metaldragon01: Grok with cons 64....which no one uses
metaldragon01: I know what a training set Is lol.
Either way general o3 and 2.5 roughly equal.
They will jump between certain benchmarks but you shouldn't expect it to be much better than 2.5
brain4brain: If we consider GPQA score, then grok-3-reasoning is also o3 level
metaldragon01: Who do you think is opensourcing models?
It's mainly china
brain4brain: O1-pro (not fine-tuned) got 50%, training set is public it is meant to be trained on, ARC-AGI falls on R1 level which also didn’t train on public set
bob082957: After China erased 1 T open source is dead
metaldragon01: I love openai as much as the next guy but no need to understate things
metaldragon01: Arc agi openai trained on the training set 1st. Gemini clearly didn't.
Gqpa scores are o3 level
brain4brain: It’s basically o3-mini level, but that it’s super good at math
brain4brain: It’s not basically o3 level, frontiermath score not out, ARC-AGI performed worst than o3, couldn’t solve some problem o3-mini and r1 solved
metaldragon01: It won't. 2.5 is basically o3 level
brain4brain: Yeah it's a really cool capabilities
retrerox: Ofc the image was sliglty differente but i'm sure people in genral wont pay enough attention to those details
retrerox: Like i grabbed some party picture on google and asked chat gpt to add another person to the image and he did it
retrerox: or even give a photo and replace 1 person or just add more people with it
retrerox: I mean, i'm suprised that you can even be vague, give images and art styles images as example
brain4brain: Made the whole internet into Ghibli
brain4brain: No, thats GPT-4o, it’s been teased for a year but they RLHF and just release it a few days ago
brain4brain: With AI, everybody will have their own team of PhD level doctor 24/7
retrerox: Wasnt the 4.5 the current image gen? Whith the boom of ghibli meme? i'm kinda fresh on this
brain4brain: GPT-4o imagen blowing Gemini output will look like child’s play with GPT-5
brain4brain: They won’t let another GPT-4.5 disappointment happen
brain4brain: GPT-5 will blow 2.5 pro on a proportionate like how o3 blow Gemini-2
retrerox: Major problem with current medicine is there is more sick people or people who think they are sick that doctors
spicy.lemonade: like they did with gemini native image gen
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 should blow away 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: if we assume openAI is always ahead
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retrerox: logo
retrerox: i ahave a quite avanced
futurist_wizard: Thats what its for
wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.7 (Anthropic): Following the success of the Claude 3 series, a potential Claude 3.7 is anticipated.[2] It's expected to feature advanced reasoning capabilities and possibly a novel "Thinking Model" architecture.[2] [1, 4] Some sources mention a recent release of Claude 3.7 Sonnet as a "hybrid reasoning model".
Grok 3 (xAI): Elon Musk's xAI is expected to release Grok 3, potentially building on Grok 2's performance. Grok models are noted for real-time data access via X integration and reasoning capabilities.
DeepSeek R1 / V3 (DeepSeek AI): This open-weight model has garnered attention for its strong performance, particularly in reasoning, potentially rivaling closed-source models like OpenAI's o1 at a lower cost. DeepSeek also released DeepSeekCoderV2, strong in coding tasks.
Llama Series (Meta): Meta is expected to continue developing its open-source Llama models. Llama 3.3 was recently released, and Llama 4 is anticipated, potentially rivaling GPT-5 level capabilities and further pushing open-weight model adoption.
Mistral Large 2 (Mistral AI): This European company is also a key player, with Mistral Large 2 being a significant release. [15]"
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro lol
"Leading Contenders & Next Generation Models:
GPT-4.5 / GPT-5 (OpenAI): There's considerable buzz around the next major iteration from OpenAI.[1] Sources mention both GPT-4.5 and GPT-5 as potential upcoming releases. GPT-4.5 is expected to focus on unifying different AI capabilities (like language and reasoning from OpenAI's "o-series" models) into a single system and improving multimodality (handling text, images, speech, potentially video).[2] [1, 4, 14, 15] Some sources suggest GPT-5 class models are expected in 2025, representing a potential "significant leap forward" with improved accuracy and reasoning.
Gemini 2.0 / 2.5 (Google DeepMind): Google continues to advance its Gemini family. Gemini 2.0 models (including Flash, Flash-Lite, Pro Experimental) have been released or previewed. [2] More recently, Gemini 2.5 Pro Experimental was introduced as Google's "most intelligent AI model," designed as a "thinking model" with enhanced reasoning capabilities, particularly strong in complex tasks, math, science, and coding. [13, 14] It leads on several benchmarks and features a large context window. [13, 14] Further iterations focusing on multimodal interaction and agentic capabilities are expected.
futurist_wizard: If you have thr advanced version
futurist_wizard: Probably not
retrerox: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
retrerox: Would it cost something to my company?
st.sioux: you have to click start reasearch
retrerox: i have a button that says start research
retrerox: xd
retrerox: or idk
retrerox: about what is the best ai
retrerox: same question
retrerox:
metaldragon01: Click 2.5 pro then click deep research in the chat tab...
wellmeaningalien: actually im gonna see what base 2.5 pro says
wellmeaningalien: see if it can sift thru the data
wellmeaningalien: yeah
wellmeaningalien: see if it actuall has a grasp of whats goin on
darkstar0818: my guess is we gotta wait a bit
retrerox: want me to do the same qeustion again?
wellmeaningalien: ok use the other question too i still wanna like benchmark it a little
wellmeaningalien: lol
retrerox: i didnt changed b4
darkstar0818: it doesn't yet report new in gemini app for deepresearch u sure its already rolled out
retrerox: ye
wellmeaningalien: this is 2.0 flash right?
wellmeaningalien: cause
retrerox: y
wellmeaningalien: man you almost had us with that 2.0 flash fakeout this one better be worth it
wellmeaningalien: so this is actual deep research
wellmeaningalien: cooool
retrerox:
wellmeaningalien: look like this irl btw ↑
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cell-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-cell-games-arrive-gif-12626123329263234447
wellmeaningalien: come at me man
wellmeaningalien: i ought to teach some sense into that boy
wellmeaningalien: mr bourgeois let us get a taste
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hey1_1hey: Clearly not enough autism for you then
hikukomoru: You're fucked
hikukomoru: That never ever happened to me
spicy.lemonade: I CANT WAIT 3 MINS
hey1_1hey: Think you're talking in your head then stop then say it outloud
hey1_1hey: Yanno just happnes innit
spicy.lemonade: greg brockman means revolutionary
abundantliving_: 😂
abundantliving_: O3 minutes remaining
hikukomoru: Tf
hey1_1hey: Thats something I would do bro
.0xunkn0wn: https://tenor.com/view/centurion-cat-gif-15758099683439223679
futurist_wizard:
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
spicy.lemonade: but greg brockman is bigger
hikukomoru: Are you having a crash out
spicy.lemonade: hell probably be there
.0xunkn0wn: no altman? 😭
.0xunkn0wn: damn
futurist_wizard: I CWNANT WAIHIT TO SEE TA NKEW BWENCHMWERKS 🤓🤓🤓🤓
spicy.lemonade: agi is talking to me guys
.0xunkn0wn: idk i had to 😭
spicy.lemonade: me?
.0xunkn0wn: 5 minutes until skibidi jockey
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-4079785775268000209
hey1_1hey: Are you a brain rot enjoyer these days?
hikukomoru: AGI announced and you just missed it bruh
futurist_wizard: 5 minutes until chicken jockey
hey1_1hey: Holy moly I thought I missed it
hikukomoru: Don't get your hopes up
abundantliving_: 5 minutes
.0xunkn0wn:
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey!
.0xunkn0wn: LETS GO
.0xunkn0wn: LETS GIO
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: I still can't believe "Chicken Jockey" were the last words said on 4chan before it died lol
spicy.lemonade: 4chan taken down before agi had the xchance to witness it<:redemption:1136265386984222771>
professorheaven: The ARC test founder considers o3 to be a prototype AGI, he said that on a podcast discussing ARC-2
abundantliving_: its live - just not started
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alejandrozarzuelo: this is because the x axis is crazy compressed
spicy.lemonade: This is kind of crazy though. Soon itl be straight up
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: as long as it is another AI model
spicy.lemonade: Not even a co author?
spicy.lemonade: No help is crazy
alejandrozarzuelo: in any field
alejandrozarzuelo: any human can do that, so it should be able to do all of those
alejandrozarzuelo: solve a millenium prize or publish a high impact paper on its own no help
alejandrozarzuelo: thats my AGI line tbh
spicy.lemonade: Or why a sort of millennium prize level benchmark doesn’t exist yet
alejandrozarzuelo: i define as soon as less than a quarter tops
spicy.lemonade: That’s why we aren’t benchmarking if it can solve all of physics yet
alejandrozarzuelo: it depends on what you define as soon
spicy.lemonade: We only benchmark stuff we feel is coming soon
spicy.lemonade: Almost by principle
spicy.lemonade: Everytime a new benchmark drops its likeley to get saturated soon
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: /hj
alejandrozarzuelo: if benchmarks arent saturated in less than 2 months im calling this oficially an AI autumn
spicy.lemonade: Likeley arc2 will be saturated in no time
spicy.lemonade: Why would they make a benchmark that’d get saturated day 1
spicy.lemonade: Arc 2 just came out
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but still arc2 is on single digits
spicy.lemonade: Sota
alejandrozarzuelo: dots?
spicy.lemonade: 2-3
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: We’ve gotten 2 sota models per month
alejandrozarzuelo: ahhhhhhhh
alejandrozarzuelo: why is progress so slow
spicy.lemonade: but they gave us something we can used
spicy.lemonade: and got 90+ score
spicy.lemonade: like o3
spicy.lemonade: deepmind couldve pushed it max
spicy.lemonade: this isnt o3 level
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
alejandrozarzuelo: AGI is not close apparently
zonchao: oo
metaldragon01:
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futurist_wizard: You're*
wellmeaningalien: Nerd
wellmeaningalien: google cooked i wonder how it compares to o3 tho
fractalcomputer: What are mine?
futurist_wizard: Im a happy person
hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about me being a fleshlight but I'll bite my tounge
ailoveyoom: OnlyFeet
wellmeaningalien: on the livebench
oooooooooog: my pfp is my leg in minecraft
hikukomoru: Your always a bitch
wellmeaningalien: wheres new deepseek v3
futurist_wizard: I find them disgusting tbh
wellmeaningalien: yo is livebench dead for anyonee else
hikukomoru: When aren't you
futurist_wizard: Never used one
.wolfnacht: fake, i spend most of my time on /x/
ailoveyoom: Spare your poor fleshlight
st.sioux: reminds me of fractalcomputer
hikukomoru: You talk like someone who spends their entire life on /r9k/ and /pol/
That's why
futurist_wizard: Feeling aggressive today
.wolfnacht: Well, i've got the wizard in me
hey1_1hey: Tried cellary the other day, texture was banging. Sadly it tasted like battery acid and MDMA
hikukomoru: I base my vibes off profile pictures
You give me mysterious vibes
a1c4p0ne: It will be forgotten
a1c4p0ne: So no one using or testing 2.5 pro
hey1_1hey: I've branched out quite a bit ngl
ailoveyoom: Minthara calling Gale wizard (derogatory) 🥵
futurist_wizard: All of you are virgins
hikukomoru: Tuna is my autism food
hikukomoru: Wizard means a 30+ year old virgin
hey1_1hey: I eat my autism food thank you very much
oooooooooog: 4o image is novel, 2.5 pro isn't
.wolfnacht: anyways, to anyone who's 30 now....
hikukomoru: I'm still fatter than you somehow despite both being shorter than you and not eating anything
hey1_1hey: 4o image is the goat
a1c4p0ne: Is it not good?
ailoveyoom: Is wizard like a slur in this case?
a1c4p0ne: Why is 2.5 pro not as hyped as 4o image?
hey1_1hey: Jared, 23, software engineer
.wolfnacht: LMAO, but how
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gamerbath: but we may get AGI this year still. idk what calender ur using, but for me we ain't even halfway through the year
aero447: Fixed.
gamerbath: AGI 2025 or 2026. I think it's a 50/50
aero447:
brain4brain: So 2025 is real
brain4brain: Which mean the second one is more accurate <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
brain4brain: My timeline went from 2027 to 2025
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/next-goldberg-youre-next-wwe-world-wrestling-entertainment-gif-17791133
brain4brain: AGI 2025
aero447: AGI 2026ers.
gamerbath: 2024 twice?
brain4brain: And the first time live on earth will expand to the digital realm fully and towards other solar system
brain4brain: It’s the first time live on earth will have an intelligence explosion
brain4brain: Cambrian explosion
rayanquitplayin: What y’all think, renaissance or Industrial Revolution?
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
_cloudost: <@322961583154397184>
brain4brain: Send article link
brain4brain: I want to see AGI this year
spicy.lemonade: This is so good
brain4brain: No.
_cloudost: ( Humans )
_cloudost: AI is currently in protozoa level, needs to evolve more, once it develops arms and hands it will impress the world
_cloudost:
brain4brain: Its so over and we're so back at the same time'
brain4brain: then why the hell is Demis still 10 years
brain4brain: Holy shit
brain4brain: its so over
brain4brain: even with mini map
supervisor194: im down
spicy.lemonade: hype
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: We are at Q* again
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: GIYS
a1c4p0ne:
.wolfnacht:
a1c4p0ne: it has a pathfinder if it gets stuck
.wolfnacht: yep, gaymini is stuck in safari zone from past half an hr, it's just circling around...
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/yaburnt-joker-burn-burnward-calltheburnunit-gif-5274995
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spicy.lemonade: not stop
metaldragon01: Why do people bury their heads in the sand
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: in USA there is
metaldragon01: There's nothing that will stop AI progress
spicy.lemonade: forcing openAI to saftey max
spicy.lemonade: a pro regulation dem will win 2028
spicy.lemonade: no gov official will be anti
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: yes
joaoluz19: Or defend UBI, like Obama
st.sioux: pro regulation
spicy.lemonade: more super saftey
spicy.lemonade: well not anti
spicy.lemonade: anti AI candidate will likely win 2028 election anyway bc of normie job loss
fractalcomputer: Why do you feel like debating these things among yourselves?
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: Which was why Neumann urged the US to nuke the USSR while they still could.
st.sioux: and final
zonchao: yes
st.sioux: but nukes are only destructive
metaldragon01: Ai is everything
joaoluz19: I don't like the decel idea, but thinking from a practical point of view if you ban giant datacenters you would stop all major efforts in AI
zonchao: there is no financial upside in maintaining and making more nukes
metaldragon01: Nukes are only weapons
spicy.lemonade: we have MAD
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: same arguement for nukes
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: thats why we have MAD
metaldragon01: There's no. Middle ground
spicy.lemonade: theres no financial upside to world ending yes
metaldragon01: You harness AI or you lose to those who do
spicy.lemonade: not because of small bad things
zonchao: there was no financial upside
spicy.lemonade: ending
spicy.lemonade: cataclysmic
spicy.lemonade: because of direct
spicy.lemonade: we slowed down nukes
metaldragon01: AI is a part of the tools of war and will also improve for national security
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fractalcomputer: No.
brain4brain: Ok, a few things happened this year.
brain4brain: Also this totally not make up real graph, says AGI this year, fr fr, no cap
This graph is not bias at all which means I’m correct
fractalcomputer: Nothing ever happens.
brain4brain: It will be re-evaluated on May 15th
brain4brain: “A few things will happen this year.”
— Brain4Brain.
_cloudost:
fractalcomputer: "Watch as nothing happens."
– Yours truly.
brain4brain:
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-destroynectar-speed-sea-china-gif-14484393121405379968
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BF%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%81-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-gif-1626328442317885176
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/D0I1RB33adM?si=pNFfQ-sjkGpeoWmF
trent_k: Wasn't necessary for o4 mini but was necessary for o3
trent_k: They do. I did it
abundantliving_: https://x.com/wavefnx/status/1913207954351808742
.wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kAIf0qPA3Q
rayanquitplayin: AI itself is contributing to a leap in human advancement
aero447: Bait.
aero447:
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/flareon-heat-wave-pok%C3%A9mon-flareon-flareon-shy-flareon-blushing-gif-25797870
.wolfnacht: i just want that heat to warm me up on a cold day.
gamerbath: that could be. Progress could continue incrementally like it has in the past, but I think there will be some leaps
.wolfnacht: maybe more like moving from sparks of AGI to moving towards little heat from tindling fire (*before the fire gets bigger and becomes established fire*)
brain4brain: We can go to Mars, it’s just that after the USSR collapse there are no more incentives
brain4brain: Intelligence is easier to do than physical manipulation
brain4brain: Checkmate, luddites
brain4brain: Your definition and justification is that “people move goalpost” these are the people, they aren’t moving your goalpost, which mean your justification for 2035 is in-valid
brain4brain: 60/40
rayanquitplayin: Do you guys think AGI requires embodiment?
gamerbath: if you would please consult the graph
rayanquitplayin: Our digital capabilities seem to far outweigh our physical capability
rayanquitplayin: Like we’re smart enough to train robots in simulations like Nvidia’s doing but we haven’t physically been to mars idk
rayanquitplayin: I find it insane that we’re training ai on simulated environments but we haven’t colonized the moon or set foot on mars
aero447: Me hauling AGI 2025 and 2026 people into reality.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/tired-exhausted-dragging-kid-pulling-kid-gif-13568073
aero447: No.
.wolfnacht: maybe but it'll take days for gemini to get surf HM03 at a hidden house in safari zone at this rate
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okbut: How are yall feeling about that singularity
alejandrozarzuelo: I'll try
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: Alejandro
wellmeaningalien: Bro hates having a taste of their own medecine
futurist_wizard: Don't get banned again
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: Dayum
wellmeaningalien: Damn
futurist_wizard: Same shit
futurist_wizard: Muted
wellmeaningalien: He was banned?
alejandrozarzuelo: I think it was a great analogy AND a very sexually charged one
futurist_wizard: Hes just been unbanned be nice for a bit
wellmeaningalien: Its a front for not having a personality
hikukomoru: Sorry
I just like being mean to you for no reason
futurist_wizard: U kno
futurist_wizard: And talk a bit
anathemaofmankind: Uncultured
alejandrozarzuelo: So true
futurist_wizard: I need to know them for at least 24 hours
alejandrozarzuelo: Why lol
wellmeaningalien: Die !!
hikukomoru: All of your analogies are awful
alejandrozarzuelo: You need substance first
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/barbie-ryan-gosling-wink-margot-robbie-handsome-gif-7779535681814001194
alejandrozarzuelo: Sex is like frosting
It makes a cake better, but just frosting is not much of a dessert
futurist_wizard: No way
futurist_wizard: Especially not a guy
alejandrozarzuelo: My escapades are actually pretty fun
Again, I really like to meet people I can have a great time no sex included
Then sex is ok, but only as an addendum
futurist_wizard: One night stands i do not find are pleasant
hikukomoru: This time it's not my fault
futurist_wizard: I don't hook up at all
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like that tho
anathemaofmankind: Mommy/daughter so peak
alejandrozarzuelo: I guess it's easy to have sex if you just care about the sex part
Hook-ups can take as little as 15 mins
rayanquitplayin: Lol same, I could’ve never bring someone home
st.sioux: goon chat is back i see
hikukomoru: Wtf
hikukomoru: This is the part where Alejandro starts talking about his grindr escapades
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oooooooooog: its ok
hey1_1hey: I've been gaslit
oooooooooog: for fun
hey1_1hey: Fuck
oooooooooog: i was gaslighting you
oooooooooog: i know
hey1_1hey: Opposite side of that, so under your arm
hey1_1hey: Yanno your bicep?
hikukomoru: Isn't that a dinosaur
hey1_1hey: I a healslut what do you expecf
oooooooooog: what is a tricep
hikukomoru: I see all the guys here are subs
Pathetic
hey1_1hey: Like I am not joking, I thought I didn't have triceps until I worked out
a1c4p0ne: So it makes sense why some people have the shit smell when walking by
hey1_1hey: The moment I turned 18 my acne fucked off luckily so now I got nice skin. My triceps are non existant though
zoermena: Oh, it´s because you said tink I got confused.
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: shower after u shit guys, its not hard lol
hikukomoru: ?
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Just not with heals please, I'll take pain sure but not with heals thank you very much
zoermena: I have a good tricep, I´m not ugly I just have acne, I´m paying for a dermatologist soon.
technocake.: google twink
a1c4p0ne:
zoermena: wdym
hey1_1hey: I got a couple redeeming qualities. The one I get complimented the most on is that I have unreaonsbly wide shoulders
hikukomoru: Do you want me to step on you with my heels too
technocake.: that's not so bad, you could still multiclass in to twink
.histic: mommy
st.sioux: please
zoermena: Everyone wants to pick me up
hikukomoru: I could probably pick you up and crush you like a twig
hey1_1hey: I am 18 at 5'8
.histic:
zoermena: But at least I´m not ugly
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
zoermena: Genetics hate me
zoermena: Im 21
hey1_1hey: Impressive honestly
hikukomoru: Bro how are you the same height as me as a man
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alejandrozarzuelo: Buenos aires is great when it's winter in the north
futurist_wizard: I would never go to third world countries, i have paranoid genes
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't need to find my perfect city, if I can move around
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like to be tied to any place
hikukomoru: They have a new and better deep search
For Gemini Advanced
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
futurist_wizard: You are adventurous Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: 50k-500k small
500k-5m medium
5m+ large
alejandrozarzuelo: That's tiny
alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh
hikukomoru: Nicosia has 200k people
That's plenty big
okbut: I can't remember, I could've sworn I used deep search on 2.5 3 weeks ago and it was butt
rayanquitplayin: The market went crazy today
futurist_wizard: I don't even know what perplexity is
hikukomoru: Google killed them
hikukomoru: Perplexity is dead now
alejandrozarzuelo: Until gemini 2.5
okbut: It was a week ago you were in the room everyone saying it's SOTA deepsearch
rayanquitplayin: It prob can, I don’t get why people still pay financial analysts
hikukomoru: Does anyone still use Perplexity
futurist_wizard: My fucking eyes
okbut:
okbut: Just have Perplexity do the work for you
hikukomoru: No
futurist_wizard: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities tho
Istanbul and Athens get close to my ideal
Hopefully in the future AI will develop the entire world and there won't be poor places anymore and I can live where I like
rayanquitplayin: Guys should I become a financial analyst?
okbut: I see them flaunting it like a cock pic but no API
futurist_wizard: Red skin and shit
okbut: And is Behemoth even accessible?
futurist_wizard: Well i don't feel it, i know people that get proper sunburns
hikukomoru: Meta is ass
alejandrozarzuelo: I love the sun, to be under a shadow
rayanquitplayin: Maybe at a small level
wolf3404: Yea but Egypt is kind of a shit hole, maybe Cyprus
okbut: Is Meta still pog? I heard they gave LMSys a model fine-tuned for scoreboard performance
hikukomoru: Spanish people don't burn in the sun
alejandrozarzuelo: Everyone burns
Even if you think you don't you do
futurist_wizard: Spanish man burns ay!
rayanquitplayin: Fr, I never wear sunscreen and I never burn
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futurist_wizard: i could bench you 27 times for reps
wellmeaningalien: i dont use like any crypto platform cause ion wanna give out my id but i think u can do it on some sites
wellmeaningalien: like im used to bitcoin and shit but oh hell i'll just find a site
wellmeaningalien: hell i'll just find a website where you can just cash out faster
maintcrew: like any coin
maintcrew: wtf do u have then
wellmeaningalien: program thing
hey1_1hey: (Send help)
wellmeaningalien: i'll have to install another wallet then
wellmeaningalien: damn ok
hikukomoru: What the fuck is testosterone going to do to me dude I don't even need it
hey1_1hey: 3 sets of 8 on benchpress (0.1g)
st.sioux: poor kid is getting groomed
futurist_wizard: bruv lifting what
hikukomoru: Doesn't sound like it worked to be honest
maintcrew: shit just go eth is easier to cash out as well
hey1_1hey: I became less autistic after lifitng for a while
hikukomoru: Wtf
hey1_1hey: It actually does to some degree
maintcrew: i am know for my magnimous heart i gave money for whiskey to some indian dude here
hikukomoru: Lifting weights cures autism 👍
wellmeaningalien: so either way win win
wellmeaningalien: then u WOULD want to give me the pizza
maintcrew: ahahha... unless?
maintcrew: tf would i want from you.. unless ur a young manipulable depressed girl?
wellmeaningalien: AIGHT DUDE IM GONNA MAKE A MONERO WALLET REAL SOON
maintcrew: either monero or eth is fine u decide ill go now i got something to do
hey1_1hey: WHAT
st.sioux: saying shit like "lift 250 bro low test bro" doesnt help anybody lol
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: u WILL give me the pizza right or are u just taking advantage of a poor autistic neurodivgergent
hey1_1hey: This guy is giving heavy groomer energy
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: yeah that sounds dope lol
maintcrew: im not home at my laptop tho ill get u a nice pizza in about 7 hours hows that sounds
hey1_1hey: Stop being autistic and get on with it
hey1_1hey: Double the price for the same size is criminal
hikukomoru: There are 5 different conversations happening at the same time
wellmeaningalien: thats what u get for being britpoor
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wellmeaningalien: found this book on Ai job displacement at the hypermarket
memlaswaif: IM SORRY<:zzz_catblush:1206129985019191369>
seventales: have i been forgotten to the depths of time
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: riley and seventales
memlaswaif: I got my lore mixed up
memlaswaif: Riley <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
frittata: Was no one there when the deep magic was written <:angrycry:1186012669023621160>
otub: 🦍
futurist_wizard: Do they ignore the body hair and pretend it doesn't exist or do they actually like bodies covered in hair
futurist_wizard: Furries have confused me
hikukomoru: Frittata is dead 🥀
memlaswaif: frittata is the originator of furrydvr
hikukomoru: Are you a furry too
hikukomoru: Humans most of all
frittata: My sweet summer child
alejandrozarzuelo: All social species do
frittata: Lion fucking too
frittata: Anyway oop furries to off topic
hikukomoru: That's what a furry is 🙏
futurist_wizard: I've seen male lions fuck eachother though
frittata: That ain’t no furry it’s just an anthropomorphized cartoon animal <:bruh:1303825143344267305>
hikukomoru: Lions are cats
Just big ones
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean the same way a lion is a cat
hikukomoru: Same thing
hikukomoru: Fennec is fox
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a fennec
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not a fox and it's not queer
hikukomoru: You don't look like a gay fox irl?
spicy.lemonade: I hated elon before it was cool
alejandrozarzuelo: Not real me
frittata: Early adopter
alejandrozarzuelo: I thought that <@505313122802728972> was talking about my new pfp
hikukomoru: It's his pfp
frittata: Pics or it didn’t happen
a1c4p0ne: 4o new update
spicy.lemonade: and replicate my personality
spicy.lemonade: one day ill give all of this to an llm
spicy.lemonade: i might have written every single day
spicy.lemonade: Lmao unhinged
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hikukomoru: Yes to earn your trust and then kill you while you least expect
futurist_wizard: I have had the throat one where they put a camera down your throat
technocake.: just for fun
sweetievee__33649: i had 2 cats when i was little and they were lovley they used to cuddle up on my chest in a big ball and purr
ailoveyoom: Would a stray devil curl up and sleep on my lap 😤 <@505313122802728972>
hikukomoru: That means catgirls are evil too
zoermena: Get a colonoscopy
futurist_wizard: It might be ibs
futurist_wizard: I have not been formally diagnosed, i have been tested loads of times, nobody can figure out what i have
ailoveyoom: Lies
hikukomoru: They just can't do that much harm because they are so small and dumb
sweetievee__33649: if you think cats are evil let me introduce you to snakes
hikukomoru: All cats are evil by nature
st.sioux: didnt you have like gerd
sweetievee__33649: are your cats evil or something
futurist_wizard: I don't know what i have
hikukomoru: I would be more worried about my cats killing me than dolls
futurist_wizard: I have
technocake.: I swear by omiprazole for reflux if you haven't tried
futurist_wizard: They make me too awngrey
zoermena: RIP
futurist_wizard: It was probably competitive gwamez, i should not play them
zoermena: Can it be Tuesday already? My bank account is bleeding.
hikukomoru: He's not ok he just pooped his pants
sweetievee__33649: thats why i have full sized mechatrons watching me sleep 😎
ailoveyoom: My bad bro I went too deep 💔
technocake.: oh man ❤️ hope you're good
sweetievee__33649: if i had dolls watching me while i was asleep i would feel like they would be plotting to kill me
futurist_wizard: My stomach acids were triggered by unknown nefarious forces today
technocake.: ew i hope not
hikukomoru: My dolls watch me sleep
Makes me feel safe
himekokatagiri:
sweetievee__33649: id be a doll if i could
himekokatagiri: 😭 peripeteia such a good game
himekokatagiri:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-the-rizzler-cool-rizz-flirt-gif-15081277433295719487
sweetievee__33649: they freak me out a little bit 💔
sweetievee__33649: dolls are... they sure are
futurist_wizard: Dolls
ailoveyoom: 😏
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spicy.lemonade: just say openAI
spicy.lemonade:
czdct: the "create image" function in chatgpt tends to give you better results since it uses 4o to try and understand what you want, and it also gives you the ability to edit images with just text
_cloudost: Idk if Sora has the same quality
czdct: sora however doesn't have a cd
czdct: how much it is exactly is unknown
czdct: around 20 minutes when ur at your hourly limit
_cloudost: How long is the cool down
czdct: it does have a cooldown on chatgpt though
_cloudost: Ah I see
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
theaiguy69420_89814: 1 month worth of coding done autonomously...
.histic: the button is gone now
.histic: wait wtf
.histic: <:ez:1136267305521774634> i got it on desktop
st.sioux: not on desktop
st.sioux: no, only on mobile
.histic: it's pretty mid
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jqso9g/just_noticed_this_new_thinking_toggle_in_chatgpt/
do you've this too? cuz i got this 2 days ago.
.histic: yes, on sora.com it basically is.
metaldragon01: Absolutely insane productivity
metaldragon01: Ai doing 1 week of work at a time is AGI by any measure
ldj:
ldj: Maybe the most interesting chart in their report here <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj: and their 80% confidence for superhuman coder is <2040 and <2050 and then the last ones are somewhere greater than 2050.
ldj: My Tier 3 HLSI 80% confidence is <2045
ldj: Interesting, their Superhuman coder timelines for 80% confidence seem very similar to my 80% confidence for tier 3 HLSI.
spicy.lemonade: idk
_cloudost: No one told me yet, is the native image generator unlimited for plus users?
.histic: or do they verify through other means.
.histic: how easy is it to make a fake edu email?
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: college ends in may
spicy.lemonade: bruh
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1907862982765457603
spacetimetsunami: Spooky
spacetimetsunami: It is so insane that all of this could be said and done by early 2030s with enough acceleration
spacetimetsunami: Very true.
steven_the_frog: So despite billions of chaos agents, only the top few have any meaningful influence
steven_the_frog: Well yeah I guess in some ways we're still competing with the tigers and the aphids, but humans have such a lead that they have no hope of ever meaningfully contributing to anything
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spacetimetsunami: And definitions are fluid
spacetimetsunami: It’s as meaningful as the definition
fractalcomputer: You like appealing to reality, but I have no idea what you mean by that; since your earlier definition does not resolve the inconsistencies in our various accounts of reality. This is fundamentally due to the pragmatic nature of human ontology.
spacetimetsunami: But I don’t need to bring up anecdotal experiences to argue with these points
spacetimetsunami: Do by that definition
spacetimetsunami: I flatlined.
fractalcomputer: Then why are you so convinced that reality is a meaningful term?
spacetimetsunami: Because we evolved to survive, not observe reality for what it *is*
st.sioux: so you didnt die
spacetimetsunami: Yes, reality is illusive and inefficiently categorized prescriptions by brains
spacetimetsunami: Brain death didn’t happen
fractalcomputer: Sigh. I'll just make my point very clear then. We have *no* shared understanding of the meaning of "real"; we have *no* shared understanding of the meaning of "existent"; and frankly these are contradictory or just totally unhelpful ideas. Humans are quite eager to claim that a particular object - that they happen to perceive - exists, say, a bird, but are less prone to say that those things - some of which may be disclosed by the scientific method - which they cannot immediately perceive, such as the residual strong nuclear force that constitutes the nuclei of the very atoms of that bird do exist; likewise, we have no consensus on whether certain abstracta, such as the natural numbers or other like systems exist *in fact*, and this problem becomes all the more amplified as we increase the scale of our abstraction; someone might take a far more propitious position on the existence of the natural numbers, however we'd want to define them, but might break away with mathematical Platonism after one introduces far more refined concepts, such as sheaves or topoi; higher categories and set universes and so on.
spacetimetsunami: I just got close
spacetimetsunami: Quantum immortality isn’t true, I’m sorry
st.sioux: but you already died and didn't die according to you
spacetimetsunami: If I was able to do insane shit and not die, then yeah it wouldn’t be real
spacetimetsunami: lol
spacetimetsunami: The reason it holds true is because it’s a good enough interface to where I don’t die.
oooooooooog: your own brain's interface with "reality", and the only reason it holds true is that you trust it. that trust holds no value in terms of definitive proof.
spacetimetsunami: Because it’s real lol
spacetimetsunami: Get this - *reality*
_3sphere: 😭
oooooooooog: where did you get that information from?
_3sphere: lucid dreaming is sandbox mode with no updates
_3sphere: the brain had to get its input from somewhere to form constructs to dream about
oooooooooog: random chance
_3sphere: Dreams based on what
oooooooooog: it's all explainable away by hallucination, imagination, or dreams
oooooooooog: i agree. and since they are no longer thinking, that means they don't have any evidence for being affected by anything
spacetimetsunami: No. But so what if it hasn’t? It has for people I know and there is virtually no plausible mechanism in which they are still experiencing things.
_3sphere: A bunch of trump supporters got much more vocal and a lot of people left over it
oooooooooog: brain death
oooooooooog: i mean has your brain ever stopped functioning completely, which is what death means
_3sphere: 2024 American election
fractalcomputer: Because it rests on a thousand different unstated premises and ill-stated notions.
spacetimetsunami: I nearly bled to death at 12
spacetimetsunami: I have.
spacetimetsunami: Yes.
spacetimetsunami: I have plenty of empirical evidence suggesting there is no afterlife lol
oooooooooog: have you ever died
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himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii michmach
futurist_wizard: Most people here are basically techno-religious
ailoveyoom: Heat death 😈
futurist_wizard: Maybe fractal would
futurist_wizard: This server is loaded with death denialism, who's gonna say yes to the likelihood of us dying
gamerbath: yes
perish0801: So I’m asking if that’ll happen
perish0801: He’s saying we’ll be immortal with advancements in tech and science
himekokatagiri: I don't like the new eleanor!!! baaaaah
gamerbath: just follow the ways of bryan johnson <:prayge:981798930113249300>
perish0801: Thanks dude
himekokatagiri: you better hope so
st.sioux: nice car bro
perish0801: I don’t wanna die
perish0801: Will we be immortal?
gamerbath: here's a list of all the values of claude's internal neural network
https://huggingface.co/datasets/Anthropic/values-in-the-wild/blob/main/values_frequencies.csv
himekokatagiri: I still don't buy it by 2027
spicy.lemonade: man
spicy.lemonade: incremental
spicy.lemonade: according to ai 2027 paper 2025 will be so mid
aero447: 😐
aero447: Chocolate.
st.sioux: gogole fraud
spicy.lemonade: tf
spicy.lemonade: its too far away
spicy.lemonade: bro i cant wait for google io
gamerbath: stop advertising for air, ur name reminds me about it
himekokatagiri: okay so this week, what's gonna happen
himekokatagiri: no
st.sioux: is gmeini 3 out yet
gamerbath: well your last point is wrong, because other collections of cells are working to fix that
spicy.lemonade: not advertisement😭
aero447: Do not advertise.
realelonmuskx: I’m just a collection of cells, born by accident, chasing dopamine hits, doomed to die.
spicy.lemonade: bro made agi in 90s😭
gamerbath: great episode
https://www.netflix.com/watch/81716298?trackId=268410292
zonchao: he married thiels plant, we will rescue him
okbut: Copacetic with the point
himekokatagiri: as if china isn't calling the shots
himekokatagiri: lol
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spicy.lemonade: o3 full prob next week
spicy.lemonade: hype x2
spicy.lemonade: hype
.histic: ah i see
st.sioux: after like 100,000 tokens typing I had like a "ping", letters would take time to appear on the textbox, really weird... and it wouldn't load on my iphone, it would just crash
.histic: oh, it was laggy 4 you?
.histic:
st.sioux: i dont like the background but at least its not like super laggy anymore
metaldragon01: Maybe qwen 3 too
metaldragon01: Veo 2 tomorrow
.histic: AIStudio new UI change
spicy.lemonade: Qwen when
destrucules: I think psychedelics feel closest to like... The intensity you're looking for from a real life NZT. Other nootropics are so mild. They do genuinely enhance cognition. But they also alter it. So be prepared for that
3ds0662: but tbh 5 years everything will change anyways we already have alphafold and things in the works when it comes to proteins peptides dna etc… its only a matter of time
3ds0662: i hope to oneday maybe try them shrooms and all that stuff
3ds0662: you got me there
3ds0662: lsd and um psychodelics ive never tried really
3ds0662: caffeine nicotine gum they all help really i wont knock them for their individual use cases they elicit their supposed effects but not as you imagine eh(me i imagined soo much more crazier after like seeing their reviews, reddit anecdotes, wikipedia stuff then trying it wasnt the same)
3ds0662: alpha gpc, and centrophenoxine the cholinergics
3ds0662: oxi, ani, colour, faso, nefirac
3ds0662: unifiram, sunifiram, tak, piracetam
3ds0662: ampakines yes good they definitely are amazing for cognitive enhancement
3ds0662: yeah ive tried all those modafinil eh lol
3ds0662: shows us his coolest toys then doesnt allow us to play with them
3ds0662: hes a n edgelord cause all he does is edge us
3ds0662: the twink keeps holding out smh
3ds0662: yes this fuck a mini give me the full thing you bastard
3ds0662: same song different rhythm
3ds0662: yeahh i watched full show of both that was such a cool ending it got cancelled smh but contradictory i meant in like the differences in how the successful drug guy approached them
spicy.lemonade: Tf is mini pro
3ds0662: nooooo no o3 full fuck i wanted o3 full
destrucules: At least in terms of cognitive flexibility and creativity, LSD and other 5HT_2A agonists are nootropics. Most other effective nootropics are cholinergics or AMPAkines which are basically just cholinergics with a middleman. The racetams and nicotine are broadly in this category. Xanthines like caffeine have some reported nootropic effects but they're kind of an edge case. Modafinil... Is complicated.
destrucules: Regarding the psychedelics thing it's actually true
st.sioux: ratatouille is my homie
destrucules: Me too man. Me too. Btw the show doesn't contradict the movie (Limitless) - at the end of the movie and in the show, Eddie is a *senator* who *owns* several pharma labs
Besides ALZ-112, NZT-48, and Lucy magic blue shit, there's also the intestinal worms from Futurama, the number that represents the name of God in the movie Pi, the rat (Remy) from Ratatouille (am I wrong tho), Stem from Upgrade (2018), and LSD-25 (real life)
.histic: in my testing, Gemini Deep Research seems on par with OpenAI's Deep Research. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
have you tested them yet?
.histic: it got leaked 1-2 weeks ago o3-mini pro was an internal thing despite Sam not acknowledging they'd release it.. 🤔
3ds0662: the models are still too dumb in my opinion
3ds0662: chatgpt as it is now even at the most expensive plan 200$ still can’t pay itself off
3ds0662: you think o3 deep research will create millionaires?
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joaoluz19: That was your fault for talking about the artists
gamerbath: everything is completely find actually, it's just too much padding some places, even with compact layout
hey1_1hey: WHY IS THERE ONLY 4 VIDEOS FOR THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE SCREEN
hikukomoru: GC is crying 💔
hey1_1hey: YOUTUBE FUCKED UP ASWELL
joaoluz19: This is so ugly
hikukomoru: It's hard to read what y'all are saying
joaoluz19: Man how to go back to the old appearance wtf
hey1_1hey: I liked my big server icons
zoermena: Ohhh
hey1_1hey: Thats the part I dislike most
zoermena: Im on my phone
joaoluz19: Just go to Sora and change video to image here
hikukomoru: Restart ur discord app
gamerbath: restart ur discord
hikukomoru: I want the old discord pls
zoermena: Im so confused
zoermena: What happened?
gamerbath: I feel like there's too much padding in the input box now, but the servers list is much better
gamerbath: okay it's actually not bad
hey1_1hey: Take me back
hey1_1hey: This shit is so ass
hey1_1hey: Innit
zoermena: Oh? How?
gamerbath: oh my god guys why did ya'll make me restart discord 😭
joaoluz19: Made in sora, didn't test in the chat yet
futurist_wizard: Keep the fetish posting to a maximum.
hikukomoru: I can barely read shit
zoermena: Can you send a ss of the chat? Just to get a reference that I can try? Thanks! 👍
hey1_1hey: Can it do mpreg?
777agical: https://x.com/emostaque/status/1904625816136499614?s=46
hikukomoru: DISCORD FIX THIS SHIT
WHY DOES IT LOOK AWFUL NOW
joaoluz19:
zoermena: I don’t think I have it yet? If I do Gemini>4o
hey1_1hey: Why does everything seem so misaligned
zoermena: How long to get the new image gen?
joaoluz19: Yep it fucked up the appearance
hikukomoru: What is this 💔
hey1_1hey: It feels too cramped and spaciouse at the same time
hikukomoru: This shit is so ass bro 💔
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wellmeaningalien: and dall e 3 on a tech shop
wellmeaningalien: i've already been seeing my mall using dall e 3 for most posters
.wolfnacht: *i got chills watching these*
wellmeaningalien: and people who have 0 graphic design knowledge can work them as they please and get whatever result they please
wellmeaningalien: like when these tools can make passable if not beautiful artworks most of the time
.wolfnacht: left looks like zuck's mom when it comes to facial symmetry and eyes.
wellmeaningalien: some of that midjourney shit is proof that graphic design and illustrator jobs are dead like officially
wellmeaningalien: i'll admit tho
.histic: lol
spicy.lemonade: Just cancel
spicy.lemonade: It’s over
spicy.lemonade: And prices
spicy.lemonade: And they have shit rate limits
wellmeaningalien: hilarious cope attempt from midjourney employees
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: lol
spicy.lemonade: Midjourney is dead
.histic: look at v7's right ear.
there's two
wellmeaningalien: i dont see how v7 is better than 4o here
.histic: i think you can get the gist.
.histic: Left: 4o
Right: v7
https://x.com/ciguleva/status/1908244053713707289
Midjourney employee showed 4o beating v7.
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: no prompt, no context
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/pooh-tigger-cute-dance-gif-704092308767568792
_cloudost: Winnie the Pooh is loved by them
.histic: yup.
_cloudost: Twitter American leftists would literally cheer for the CCP if the country ever releases some similar AI image generator like the OpenAI's one
.histic: omg, the collective IQ of twitter people is crazy.
no rational thought.
.histic: https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1908201869530259677
❓
OpenAI is definitely still making a profit. they'd just make rate limits worse if that was the case.
and now you still people in the replies that are anti-AI wanting to "bankrupt" OpenAI <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.0xunkn0wn: 0:39 this gives me konpeki plaza vibes lmao
hikukomoru: Ew it's a guy
Why can't it be a hot lady voice
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw93wE_zJR4
.0xunkn0wn: for smart homes
_cloudost: Posted this video 3 months ago here, and now the information in this video is outdated
.0xunkn0wn: its like alexa but cooler
_cloudost:
hikukomoru: The fuck is josh ai
oooooooooog: what even is even that
.0xunkn0wn: does anyone use josh.ai
hikukomoru: No
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fractalcomputer: Any idea on the hour and the minute?
zonchao: <a:SUS:1326788442549391401>
ldj: specifically late at night in the middle of june <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
gamerbath: oh I just remembered you said that yesterday, yea
gamerbath: oo
ldj: OpenAI open source model planned for mid-june though
gamerbath: temperature too high
gamerbath: mild hallucination
ldj: and I never visited Deepseeks cafe
ldj: The question was about R2, that's not an OpenAI model
gamerbath: I thought we were all gonna make it, but then fractal wanted a shrimp sandwich
fractalcomputer: I'd kill for a shrimp sandwich right now.
gamerbath: you didn't absorb any knowledge from that panko shrimp?
gamerbath: but san you ordered shrimp in their cafe. you should know all their timelines and insider secrets
futurist_wizard: I agree
ldj: Same chances as Llama-4.1 dropping potentially soon
same chances as OpenAI open source model dropping potentially soon
<:shrug:1083221317945413777> Yea probably all sometime in the next 3 months roughly
fractalcomputer: I've only talked to it in French.
zonchao: it is nothing without american funding though, pretty sure american VCs own like 30-40% of the company atp...anyway i was just joking <:salute:1151275518734381068>
alejandrozarzuelo: Mistral is very fast, I use it for googling shit that needs to be quick but not too deep
fractalcomputer: Maybe I should switch to using Mistral only as a joke.
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> what do yoiu think about R2 dropping potentially soon
ldj: No it's owned by french men
fractalcomputer:
fractalcomputer: Arthur Mensch, Guillaume Lample and Timothée Lacroix are all French by nationality.
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: owned by americans
fractalcomputer:
alejandrozarzuelo: Just because it cooperates with US servers doeanr meanr that it isn't important for European strategic autonomy
Sadly it's far behind SOTA
fractalcomputer: https://mistral.ai/fr
alejandrozarzuelo: It's French
zonchao: mistral is american
zonchao: <:clownsob:1083836484022435890>
alejandrozarzuelo: There was a Brazilian model who was briefly in the top 20 in MATH benchmark and I was all over the moon, because it would be amazing to have Brazil be on the cutting edge of AI aswell
I also would love Mistral to keep up with the new models
fractalcomputer: Thus sayeth the American, in a vulgarised, degenerate dialect of a European language.
alejandrozarzuelo: So, hopefully R2 will be, if not SOTA, at least on the same league as o3 and Gemini 2.5
alejandrozarzuelo: If China was significantly ahead on AI I would root for whomever was in second place
zonchao: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
alejandrozarzuelo: Which is the ideal
alejandrozarzuelo: As opposed to many countries having similar capabilities
alejandrozarzuelo: I am interested, I said that your position is cringe and I explained why, because I consider supporting American hegemony cringe
No need to elaborate, it's already explained
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brain4brain: All AI seems to use the same font
brain4brain: AI-San
brain4brain: New phenomenon
wellmeaningalien: ok but like i wanna see some sort of process
brain4brain: Wait
spicy.lemonade: Some are a bit grainy
wellmeaningalien: yea its kind of grainy as if it's scanned from a magazine
brain4brain: AI
spicy.lemonade: Like if you zoom in
spicy.lemonade: Not just smooth
spicy.lemonade: Has texture
spicy.lemonade: I love how every image
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: In next weeks
spicy.lemonade: openAI said they're going to iteratively fix it
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: ok
brain4brain: Give me some unlabeled examples, I want to test the new world model
spicy.lemonade: Still don't see issue with R
brain4brain: Now that I see some, I’ve built a new world model to detect these <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, I am pretty sure that by the end of the year it will be literally impossible to tell
alejandrozarzuelo: but like, not a proffessional's human error, like an artist amateur error
wellmeaningalien: whereas this one contorts a bit
_cloudost: The same people are actively commiting terrorist activities on tesla owners, poor owners of tesla cars have nothing to do with Musk
wellmeaningalien: yah but its more of a uniform curve
spicy.lemonade: All of the current errors can be attributed to human error
futurist_wizard: i checked
futurist_wizard: thats in south park characters
alejandrozarzuelo: it looks like either a single human who isnt a professional would do
spicy.lemonade: That's what I mean
spicy.lemonade: Exactly
wellmeaningalien: but if this was a regular online artist sure
alejandrozarzuelo: sure
wellmeaningalien: professionally made shows dont have much human error
spicy.lemonade: Can be attributed to human error
alejandrozarzuelo: look at the negative inside
spicy.lemonade: All of this
wellmeaningalien: the only way i could spot this is ai is that the eye gap is sort of drawn inconsistently to the way it is drawn in the show
spicy.lemonade: A human could've wrote that
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hikukomoru: Don't call me white
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: We should turn all men into femboys
sweetievee__33649: femboys are way better than twinks
wellmeaningalien: White people here if only yall knew the singularity was UZBEK
sweetievee__33649: true
hikukomoru: Femboy is superior to twink
futurist_wizard: Femboy is beyond twink
sweetievee__33649: so hes just a femboy twink then
futurist_wizard: Twink ish?
wellmeaningalien: Mushroom posted his face he's just like a twinkish white dude
futurist_wizard: And kneesocks
hikukomoru: gay ass bitch
hikukomoru: posted himself in a skirt
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250>
sweetievee__33649: real?
hikukomoru: He looks like a femboy
sweetievee__33649: i want to see mushroom man since you said he likes mushroom in *that* way and i want to see what someone with *that* looks like
wellmeaningalien: Yooo wassup is me bob
futurist_wizard: Lots of curly hair people here
hikukomoru: Like Alejandro because he's a whore
technocake.: spunchboba
hikukomoru: And other showed their Ghibli face too
futurist_wizard: Curly hair
sweetievee__33649: bob*
sweetievee__33649: bobo
sweetievee__33649: nice to meet you spongebub
wellmeaningalien: So.
wellmeaningalien: Anyway I showed my face and I'm SpongeBob irl
hikukomoru: I've already posted Ghibli me before
sweetievee__33649: id comprimise but only with a ghiblified image of me
wellmeaningalien: And of course fractal is Lovecraft irl
hikukomoru: Why would you want to show your face
wellmeaningalien: All but trent
sweetievee__33649: are we all just shy socially arkward people who dont want to show are faces on the internet here
wellmeaningalien: Yeah that's me wuddup bitches
hikukomoru: Spingebinge???
wellmeaningalien: Yo waddup nerds I know yall neets but while waiting for asi fdvr dommy mommy sim make sure to touch enough grass
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/san-francisco-cat-chase-gif-23967787
himekokatagiri: and my kind of denpa is denpaer
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hikukomoru: Wasn't it just that crazy blonde girl
wellmeaningalien: besides those who draw light kissing L
wellmeaningalien: nah
hikukomoru: But i've heard it's the anime that's saving modern anime or smth idek I saw it on twitter
joaoluz19: I don't remember the anime but I think there were more people who liked him
hikukomoru: I haven't watched it yet
wellmeaningalien: dandadan is precisely one of the anime most fitting of that description
wellmeaningalien: dandadan
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah speaking of recent anime
wellmeaningalien: well light yagami gets precisely 1 pussy and arguably isn't really weak and lanky but
joaoluz19: Jujutsu too
wellmeaningalien: like literally everyone around me is talking about jujutsu kaisen or one piece or demon slayer
joaoluz19: One punch? Death note?
wellmeaningalien: these days anime is really popular tho
futurist_wizard: Toughest anime watcher
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-chainsaw-man-anime-anime-chainsaw-man-denji-power-gif-26903522
wellmeaningalien: chainsaw man but denji is cool and badass and awesome
.histic: i don't know if he is considered shy though
just a dork
.histic: dxd maybe
hikukomoru: I just mentioned two previously
wellmeaningalien: spongebob
futurist_wizard: Challenge impossible
futurist_wizard: Name the anime where the weakest lankiest boy whos shy gets unlimited pussy without naming every single anime
wellmeaningalien: meh usually those sort of animes are mid
hikukomoru: When the most peak anime you've ever watched gets ruined by some harem or loli fanservice bullshit 💔 🥀
wellmeaningalien: some animes are pretty great. a lot of them are retarded like you say but there are some that are quite worth watching
.histic: i believe the main reason i don't enjoy watching anime is that the plot or characters can end up ruining it for me.
i'm quite picky. the creators love doing some weird shit or not living to expectations..
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: I do not and shall never
hikukomoru: What anime is this
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: No
All the girls are there jsut for eye candy
wellmeaningalien: you sound like someone who does not watch anime
futurist_wizard: And all the girls like take up some masculine parental role or something idek whats going on
hikukomoru: Like the vast majority of the men here
wellmeaningalien: thats mostly because japanese men are dweeby little neeks
.histic: https://tenor.com/view/gendo-stare-neon-genesis-evangelion-gendo-gif-9367805630101002790
futurist_wizard: Like how all the boys are dweeby little neeks
futurist_wizard: I hate anime stereotypes
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alejandrozarzuelo: In any case
jonvi_1: Think it had to do with statements on intervention
jonvi_1: Althouuugh I believe they changed some reference to Taiwan on some site during his current presidency don’t remember the details though
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: Look I just see one China, I don't care which
jonvi_1: (Although I think their position is not one where he should be referring to it as a country lol)
futurist_wizard: CHINA BELONGS TO TAIWAN
jonvi_1: Well I mean yeah the US just wants to be like that
alejandrozarzuelo: It's one of my favourite Chinese provinces, great tea
futurist_wizard: I LOVE TAIWAN
hikukomoru: We need Brasiu AGI 🙏
jonvi_1: Say country and EU
alejandrozarzuelo: Also Taiwan but thayd cuz he is stupid
jonvi_1: Wait did that chart
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
jonvi_1: Wait does he call the eu a country
alejandrozarzuelo: If it's enough of a country to donnie it is to me
hikukomoru: It acts like a country in some ways
alejandrozarzuelo: That there would be a technological race in the future (believable)
That the US would take the initial lead (believable)
That CHINA would be second
That Russia and Japan would not be even in the field
And that BRAZIL would be number 4
jonvi_1: Don’t call the eu a country by implication :(
alejandrozarzuelo: Imagine saying this to someone in the 80s
alejandrozarzuelo: 🇧🇷
alejandrozarzuelo: They are afraid of Brazilian supremacy
futurist_wizard: BRWZIL
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: Making it the fourth country after the US, China and EU to do so
alejandrozarzuelo: For those not in the loop, Brazil now has an o1 level AI
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i trust the best country of all BRASIL
Rio gotta be the most Brazilian name for an AI possible
jonvi_1: Sorry lol I just appreciate it, the description felt a bit loaded
alejandrozarzuelo: Americans are crazy
jonvi_1: You mean Anthropic makes blog posts accompanying their research papers lol?
.histic: xAI (ElonMusk) sues.
OpenAI yaps.
Google ships.
& Anthropic gives existential blogs.
<:idk:1136264106937171999>
jonvi_1: Peter Thiel probably fits that description too
jonvi_1: I think he believes he has altruistic, steward of the future motives
jonvi_1: And I mean yeah
jonvi_1: Him lying about it and all
jonvi_1: Yeah the whole board thing with Sam was what I was referring to
zoermena: Lazy model
drewsni: Holy fuck I actually know this person lol
.histic: 🍿
https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105151492575611
https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105152801177636
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.wolfnacht: but i don't have high hopes, the corpo's would straight make a way to filter to remove anything that resembles fun.
.wolfnacht: dats where all the smut logs go....
technocake.:
.histic:
joaoluz19: Interesting, I would like to see more work in AGI/ASI engineering, that explicitly cites these terms
futurist_wizard: I listen to oney plays to fall asleep
retrerox: Any streamer suggestion to put as a white noise?
retrerox: Just dm me what you want me to ask
wellmeaningalien: im actually kinda curious what timelines it'll give
wellmeaningalien: u better send those prompts thru
futurist_wizard: <@439829942310666250> how is chocolate milk made?
retrerox: tomorrow we can have more fun with gemini
retrerox: gn
wellmeaningalien: i think i'll head to bed now
st.sioux: komoru-level larping
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/stymead-druski-gif-10539135909213712578
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> show us the intelligence of the average mao pfp
futurist_wizard: <@505313122802728972> how is chocolate milk made?
wellmeaningalien: thats good tho
wellmeaningalien: dayuuuuuum
retrerox: i should sleep at 9pm
retrerox: I'm kidding 😂
wellmeaningalien: it's 1 am here
wellmeaningalien: lol early? what time
retrerox: yes
wellmeaningalien: yuropean?
retrerox: as a 32yold man i have to sleep early
retrerox: i'm preparing my bed
retrerox: Let me know
wellmeaningalien: 😪
wellmeaningalien: or i'll sleep now and itll be too late forever
wellmeaningalien: before i sleep
wellmeaningalien: <@636544123096137738> gonna sleep soon wanna see that other prompt run thru
st.sioux: its joever... BUT NOT FOR ME
st.sioux: banned
futurist_wizard: We need a #its_over channel
wellmeaningalien: so so
wellmeaningalien: imagine how many people chose that it came from brown cows because it was funny
futurist_wizard: Bruh
retrerox: or not yet
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3ds0662: I kinda of changed my mind on the whole truth seeking thing after watching a podcast between alex o connor and this one guy let me time stamp
zonchao: he already is, while being the head of half a dozen companies. Elon doesnt micromanage.
3ds0662: if he treated xai like he did tesla wow it could be moving even faster
thedon7075: or more likely, more proof iq is a sham
3ds0662: there is a lot he can do if he wants to compete with sam altman and dario
thedon7075: hes been hacked
zonchao: also there is only so much he can do at xai
zonchao: nope, it will all come together
3ds0662: tbh its better if he leaves tesla and focuses all his energy on xai instead
zonchao: <:truethat:1232590824768802888>
zonchao: https://x.com/yhbryankimiq/status/1917916606765871383
trojan09205: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddiit-researchers-ai-bots-rcna203597?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user%2FNBCNews
gamerbath: actually it's the website i'm making, the tooltip you see in the image displaying info about o3 is what o3 made. I had no idea how to do this myself in a clean and organized way and neither did 2.5 pro, o3 did it
3ds0662: that doesn't look like cursor? windsurf?
realelonmuskx: he storing extra organs there
zonchao: peak
redeployment2005_67545:
realelonmuskx: wtf is this shape? he good?
sarik0497: For instance, I remember asking it once for a precise timeline of AGI, and it used David Shapiro as a source 💀
sarik0497: Give it as thorough of a description as possible and the things you precisely want it to look for. Make sure to mention that you want it to stay neutral and avoid any sources with unreliable or inaccurate data.
saket9283: Also how smoking affects our brain etc
trojan09205: It might be off topic-ish but you could try loading your sources into NotebookLM and try different prompts. That platform is really good for research
saket9283: I am interested in learning about meditation and its benefits
_creature: What task/goal or type of question are you interested in?
_creature: Different framings are useful for different tasks/goals
saket9283: hi, does anyone has a proper guide for prompting gemini 2.5pro deep research. Like how to frame the question ?
trojan09205: Irl wolf eating a pig
aero447: 💀
aero447: You can tell because his profile imagines him having two wolves inside him.
aero447: Alejandro is a furry.
trojan09205: Yo <@688807313015963693> i like your new avatar
trojan09205: They both live in Israel now though
trojan09205: My mom is from Israel and my dad is from Cuba
alejandrozarzuelo: inmigrants from israel?
trojan09205: Im an american haha. But both of my parents are immigrants
aero447: You are not understanding why Americans do X or Y when the answer is:
alejandrozarzuelo: today is workers day, no work today
trojan09205: Thank you bro!!! ❤️
alejandrozarzuelo: idk how talking about cultural differences is being retarded
aero447: I hope your day is good.
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oooooooooog: my soul is powered by re zero, terraria, and ninja.io's
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: WHY|| <@715495883202101268> <@715495883202101268> <@715495883202101268> ||
oooooooooog: after that, i will allow you to live the deaths that have not yet occured
oooooooooog: im going to make you relive the deaths of every human who has ever lived
spacetimetsunami: I wonder.
spacetimetsunami: What year will AI systems be as computationally efficient as the human brain?<:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
memlaswaif: that might legit be the worst anime of all time
oooooooooog: if only they made one for re zero fanfictions
destrucules: Basically ≥100x net efficiency over GPT-3.5
destrucules: Kinda wild that Maverick is only 3.1e24 FLOPs, less than og GPT-3.5
wellmeaningalien: multimodal doesnt matter ngl if it's shit at general tasks
wellmeaningalien: i stand corrected about the size thing tho
wellmeaningalien: artificial analysis still puts deepseek v3.1 2 rows above llama 4
wellmeaningalien: 💔 💔 💔 💔
wellmeaningalien: i'll wait for livebench numbers but gng its not looking good for llama 💔 absolutely shit long context comprehension, shit coding and math perf, plus why do they only show 2 of the benchmarks in your graph i dont think thats very fair
_cloudost: Can't believe people all around the world used chatGPT 3.5 for 1.5 years
wolf3404: Dana White should fire LeCunn
_cloudost:
_cloudost: No Veo 2 today?
technocake.: the black pharoh?
metaldragon01: i dont remember the name.
.wolfnacht: i think it's just flash 2.5 with codename
.wolfnacht: is it released or just in the teasing phase ?
.wolfnacht: which one ?
metaldragon01: There's a very good writing model in lmsys.
.wolfnacht: but it's explicit and uncensored right off the start
.wolfnacht: i'm sure it's their teased writing model, but it's pretty bad with spatial reasoning *(i mean all model are pretty bad with that)* but this one's worse than L3 when it comes around spatial reasoning of characters
.wolfnacht: when a whole month feels like a millenia
.wolfnacht: 6 months maybe
metaldragon01: Meta is just behind
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Better not be
wolf3404: It's weird but I feel like bigger models reach diminishing return as they keep getting bigger. Meanwhile we're seeing smarter and smarter small models pop up all over the place. Maybe small niche models are the future.
clevermoniker: still not flawless, but i don't expect o4 mini to be flawless either
clevermoniker: maybe its on par? at least for my usecase
clevermoniker: I think its on another level but i haven't tried Gemini 2.5
metaldragon01: speed is similar to 4o though so...could be a new upgrade?
clevermoniker: really? if so i am impressed
metaldragon01: doesn't feel strong enough to be 04 mini
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ldj: https://www.youtube.com/live/6mRP-lQs0fw?si=T3gHeMUObzyNQw8b
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> LlamaCon is live right now, many suspect that they will be announcing new llama-4 models, including reasoners and potentially omnimodality.
shirethedreamer: all i know is they are pretty much equal for gaming so you should probably go for the cheaper one if youre not at a position where money is not a parameter for you
aero447: 😐
aero447: Bro's biggest achievement was paper straws.
aero447:
.0xunkn0wn: whats better rx 9070 xt or rtx 5070 ti
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: gius
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-praise-gif-25000256
aero447: POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST.
aero447: SOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.
.coldcall: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
.coldcall: > wartime econonomy
Come back in 4 months.
shirethedreamer: https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/solar-manufacturing-map
fractalcomputer: And look how well those turned out.
xskydragon0: US Government will buy those solar Panels? With all the problem with the tax now?
shirethedreamer: no need for batteries
let the supercluster sleep at night 😴
metaldragon01: Solar plus batteries are the fastest solution
shirethedreamer: nuclear power is the answer
but it takes 3-5 years at best to construct
metaldragon01: It would be awesome but they take too long
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
xskydragon0: But, if I may enter on this discussion... Maybe... Nuclear Plants would be better? Despite the risk...
shirethedreamer: 3% to 99% is insane
its not 33x the power
its 3300x multiplier...
metaldragon01: Job programs placements the whole 9
metaldragon01: The US needs a wartime economy that's all in on US energy infrastructure
return_to_monke1_33974: gotta be zimbabwe
metaldragon01: Guess who builds by far the most solar panels in the world?
metaldragon01: I think when we lose the AI race it will be because of energy if nothing else
zonchao: but space solar seems scifi af but maybe its possible
metaldragon01: Yes we need a ton more energy to remain competitive
zonchao: https://x.com/ericschmidt/status/1917224476514672711
zonchao: https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1916908392314245494
metaldragon01: More of a deepseek stan and minimax hasn't had an update recently
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/philipjohnst1/status/1916623332386168977 i wonder if this is possible
metaldragon01: He mentioned minimax before
ldj: Teortaxes is enough chinese on my feed
ailoveyoom: You need more 👲 in your X feed
ldj: But apparently others in this chat do
ldj: Because I don’t agree with that statement at all
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zonchao: yea literally rescaling... they were probably not expecting rl and thinking models
sweetievee__33649: i really hope he does
futurist_wizard: I honestly doubt Kurtzweil is gonna make it, if he does he'd be very, very lucky
ailoveyoom: It's called being old <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
drewsni:
sweetievee__33649: i have actually never heard him talk now that i think about it
zonchao: expooonential
futurist_wizard: The guy naturally doesn't have good longevity genes, hes older than when his dad died of natural causes
hikukomoru: He looks and sounds like shit in his interview with Lex Fridman
hikukomoru: He's already going senile
zonchao: lmao
sweetievee__33649: is he really doing that badly
futurist_wizard: Ray Kurtzweil needs it in like 6 months
hikukomoru: Twitter artists are turning me into a mini-Hitler
zonchao: at least 13 9/11s
zonchao: this must be their personal 9/11
drewsni:
sweetievee__33649: too much brain dead ai slander
sweetievee__33649: i need it in 5 at this rate
ailoveyoom: If only people's first exposure to AI were cute Claude shenanigans 🥺
zonchao: https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1906664622226083922
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Trust 🙏
zonchao: they just started a new project with elmo for 30b 😭
hikukomoru: LEV in 10 years minimum
sweetievee__33649: did they just site the source as i saw it in a dream
sweetievee__33649: what are they even refering to
hikukomoru: What is bro waffling about
drewsni: ill find the ss
hikukomoru: They didn't even drop AI
drewsni: straight delusion
zonchao: huh???
drewsni: also bro congratulated microsoft for "dropping the whole AI thing"
sweetievee__33649: I need LEV in my life
hikukomoru: Badge of pride tbh
sweetievee__33649: it hurt my soul reading htat
zonchao: they really think they are doing something <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-nonono-nihablar-no-more-nope-gif-16477943
drewsni: also theres no rules against AI art, but obviously i prolly shoulda read the room better
.wolfnacht: Nah, i meant for Anti-Ai bros
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hey1_1hey: We are like the dragon ball stone thingies
zoermena: In my head no but at the top of my laptop yes
hikukomoru: Singularity polycule
hey1_1hey: Reminds me of that post "Did I lose my virginity if I had gay sex with my best friend"
maintcrew: actually apparently its not the majority
technocake.: 60%
alejandrozarzuelo: I think pretty much everyone
maintcrew: who can imagine a vivid red apple and spin it in their head
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-omni-man-fortnite-gif-2250141886851912010
wellmeaningalien: shh
hey1_1hey: I have that, thats not nice <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-gif-18041243789948650790
hey1_1hey: BROTHER
wellmeaningalien: alright bye fr now
alejandrozarzuelo: It's just sex but there's no women
wellmeaningalien: losers maybe
technocake.: this is a platonic polycule
hey1_1hey: Amphatasia to be specefic
hey1_1hey: Are there any people in ehre that cant imagine stuff in there head?
futurist_wizard: Try femboy porn, the pipeline
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
wellmeaningalien: dude its funny to pretend to be gay online but im not actually gay
hey1_1hey: The eight fold path
hey1_1hey: Clearly you dont know the true way
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
futurist_wizard: Did you finish
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah he said he wanted me to pick him flowers
hey1_1hey: I can vouch
hey1_1hey: I was htere obv
hey1_1hey: It was
hikukomoru: You don't watch gay porn for an experiment
hey1_1hey: In fairness yeah
wellmeaningalien: bro is jesting on the interwebz rn
hey1_1hey: WHAT
hey1_1hey: UNGA BUNGA
futurist_wizard: The obsession in AI is pretty autistic
hikukomoru: Didn't you say you watched gay porn?
alejandrozarzuelo: You asked me for a date
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avizuradnb: Yeah that looks better, those sketchy lines make it look slightly more amateurish which is what we want
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't even look like it was taken by a mobile phone dude
777agical: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1905291507533570189?s=46
anathemaofmankind: Is this supposed to be a picture
trent_k: Go to Google and search "Trent the Hedgehog" and use one of those pics
trent_k: <@471334973379706900> find some bad art on DeviantArt to use as a reference
spicy.lemonade: this is as far as well get
trent_k: Get real u wouldn't call this fake if u didn't know
spicy.lemonade: this should fix
spicy.lemonade:
jonvi_1: Sent this to o4 and asked for markdown conversion, it got the correct http links for the research papers on arxiv without websearch
futurist_wizard: The random growth in the foot
avizuradnb: I think it's the pencil strokes. They look like they're drawn as if coloring in an area. They don't move in the direction of the stroke. But you can try it out maybe they won't see it xD
futurist_wizard: That might get you caught
futurist_wizard: The drawing is not too precise
anathemaofmankind: The drawing is too precise
futurist_wizard: Good enough
futurist_wizard: Looks better
hey1_1hey: Defo better
anathemaofmankind: Still looks fake as shit
spicy.lemonade: hmm
gamerbath: or maybe you need to be more descriptive than that, but idk how to prompt that
gamerbath: have you tried telling it to make it not look professional?
futurist_wizard: Gpt wants to make it look very professional
futurist_wizard: Its difficult to get it to look real
hey1_1hey: Hopefully that will look a bit more realistic
hey1_1hey: Good good
st.sioux: maybe do that
forallhumanity: Mhm
st.sioux: you know how those people put the pencils besides the drawings for some reason
avizuradnb: I think it's the pencil strokes
spicy.lemonade: eraser shavings
spicy.lemonade: told ai to generate faded pencil erasing
spicy.lemonade: ok
futurist_wizard: Its not the drawing its just the lighting isn't realistic
hey1_1hey: Maybe ask for "imprefect"
hey1_1hey: I think maybe too clean yeah
avizuradnb: That looks way too good lol
hikukomoru: it's just the lighting
anathemaofmankind: It's too clean and the paper is too shiny
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spicy.lemonade: Keep in mind end of 2024 was insane
zoermena: This quarter
spicy.lemonade: Not yet. After this week it will
thedon7075: This year has already surpassed 2024
spicy.lemonade: Deepseek next week
jonvi_1: Blackhole and developers suggest maybe some memory api thing to me? Idk though
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI
spicy.lemonade: Kling
spicy.lemonade: Google dropping
spicy.lemonade: This week is gonna be batshit
thedon7075: 4.1
jonvi_1: Moom OpenAI is blackhole posting https://x.com/openai/status/1911782243640754634?s=46
thedon7075: until deepmind or deepseek create an equivalent model in a few months at 100 times cheaper price
hikukomoru: <@482923866600112154> tier research query
spicy.lemonade: Nah
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: “How to make thermonuclear bomb in basement”
hikukomoru: 20k
hikukomoru: Only for researchers
hikukomoru: No
memlaswaif: I hope plus plebs get like 5 uses of this scientist <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade: My hype meter will break
spicy.lemonade: I’m already max hype
spicy.lemonade: More hype
memlaswaif: Ure all hype regardless
zoermena: In short it’s fucking over
hikukomoru: I just don't wanna get dissappointed again
thedon7075: the information usually deliver
hikukomoru: I don't know whether to be hyped or not
spicy.lemonade: It can connect random fields
zoermena: If it can make even the smallest discovery that’s essentially RSI
spicy.lemonade: Humans havent
spicy.lemonade: Read every book
spicy.lemonade: It knows every single scientific field on earth
theaiguy69420_89814: and then all the in-between stuff
spicy.lemonade: When ai makes a huge discovery
spicy.lemonade: I’m gonna be so hype
theaiguy69420_89814: while the non technincal folks being very good at making use of the 0->1 idea generation that AI can get them
theaiguy69420_89814: technical folk being very good at pushing the limits of what an AI can achieve
hikukomoru: Oh nvm you posted him lol
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destrucules: I like Gemini 2.5 Pro and the Gemma 3 models but I... Don't like talking to 2.5 Flash
3ds0662: be honest with yourself would you use llama over 2.5 pro
3ds0662: google ai studio is literally free
destrucules: I hate every AI lab
Every single one
If I refused to use a model from a lab I didn't like, I would never talk to any AIs
3ds0662: soo many other things in opensource llama isnt in the race anymore
3ds0662: and there is qwen which is wayy better lol
3ds0662: llama 3 is good enough tbh
a1c4p0ne:
3ds0662: all he could do is talk shit about deepseeks gpu optimizations
destrucules: You're refusing to use what may be the cheapest and best option for your use case because the company itself has lost your respect? Brother, I wish I respected enough companies to pull that off.
3ds0662: he couldn’t even be honest with himself
3ds0662: even watching zucks interview on dwarkesh gave me such bad vibes
3ds0662: it doesnt matter to me cause i wont be using them llama is out of the race completely for me
destrucules: Imo Llama 4 Maverick is indeed on par with other frontier pure LLMs, and Llama 4 Scout is indeed better than Llama 3.1 405B Instruct
destrucules: It's not as good as advertised. It's not even good relative to other models. But these are still solid models. Like, just clear away the hype, the framing, the fraud, the expectations, are they good models or not?
3ds0662: thank god anthropic doesnt do that lmarena crap
3ds0662: that was grok 3 levels of frauding
3ds0662: and that chatbot arena stunt lololol
3ds0662: lol zuck frauded soo hard
destrucules: For 402B parameters you get nearly the same capabilities as V3 0324
3ds0662: did you see its long context understanding
3ds0662: nah dont care bout fdvr
destrucules: Llama 4 isn't garbage dude. Llama 4 Maverick is legitimately in the same tier as Claude 3.7 Sonnet (Standard), Grok 3, GPT-4.1, Gemini 2.5 Flash (Standard), Qwen3-235A22B (Standard), etc.
3ds0662: im literally only waiting for those two
3ds0662: R3 is entirely dependent on R2
3ds0662: once gpt 5 and claude 4 release ill be waiting another 2 years
spicy.lemonade: "super asi when"
spicy.lemonade: "wen do we get fdvr"
spicy.lemonade: it wont even stop when we get to asi lol
3ds0662: llama 5 lol hell no
destrucules: There is no normal anymore. When Claude 4 and GPT-5 come out you're gonna be curious about R3 and Llama 5 and Gemini 3 and Qwen3.5 and GLM-5
3ds0662: just 1-2 more model releases
3ds0662: i want to see what happens when we get o1 + level on those things
3ds0662: were just starting image and video reasoning though
3ds0662: after those ill go back to the cave or normal
destrucules: I want to see them too but we've definitely already made extraordinary progress this year
3ds0662: claude 4 too
3ds0662: this year is amazing but i need to see gpt-5
destrucules: Are you fucking .. what?
destrucules: This YEAR???
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spicy.lemonade: the texture
spicy.lemonade: the pixels
spicy.lemonade: down to the tiniest detail
spicy.lemonade: this is so cool
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: Ohhh okay
spicy.lemonade: "make it elmo"
spicy.lemonade: and say
spicy.lemonade: just give it a scene from movie
spacetimetsunami: What’s the prompt
spacetimetsunami: How’d you get it to do that
spicy.lemonade: yes
spacetimetsunami: Is this 4o??
spicy.lemonade: 😭
clevermoniker: should have just named it V3.1 and that's what i am going to call it
clevermoniker: personally im gonna use the new DeepSeek V3 the most out of those 3
clevermoniker: they really stole the thunder from Google, as planned
clevermoniker: and opensource is the most behind in images vs other modalities
clevermoniker: I am an open source fanatic but i have to give the crown to ClosedAI this time, because they are showing us the frontier in something possibly 'controversial' like images
zonchao: literally a democracy 😭
spicy.lemonade: i highly doubt
destrucules:
spicy.lemonade: likeley 2.5 pro performance then
clevermoniker: but i wonder if they could achieve o3 level even with just V3.1 + thinking
clevermoniker: and R2 will be reserved for V4
clevermoniker: some 'deepseek experts' even saying that the april release won't even be R2 but R1.5 using the latest V3
zonchao: 😭
clevermoniker: R2 will be around o3 level, nothing more, nothing less
spicy.lemonade: r2 will kill it
clevermoniker: he just converted a pic to that style <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: even in his ghibli fantasies he is a dictator
zoermena: <@750270494615404544>
zoermena: So like next year
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248466428231815280/1354669133018562692/Screenshot_20250326_231114_X.jpg?ex=67e62171&is=67e4cff1&hm=48da44649d1d16d4ffa3256edc10e5f32212247df536333921054c8f6689a7b4&
spicy.lemonade: the next thing over aime
spicy.lemonade: usa math olympiad
spicy.lemonade: this is proof mathematics
zoermena: Ok
zoermena: Unless you want that
zonchao: do that
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popsiclejohnithan: I mean yeah, a sponge cake is still delicious, but adding that icing and jam makes it all the more delicious.
hikukomoru: Wow harem king
alejandrozarzuelo: Im curious as to why you think just us two lol
okbut: What you mean to say is "Isn't masturbation equal pleasure but with less effort?"
That is true, but when you connect with someone and are very attracted to them, they might return the thought
futurist_wizard: I only select for people i have emotional connections with, but i am quite polyamorous so i can love multiple people
alejandrozarzuelo: Your loss
fractalcomputer: Because it's the same sensory nerves firing.
hikukomoru: Emotional connection, though I'm not sure you'd understand
popsiclejohnithan: How do you know?
fractalcomputer: I doubt.
popsiclejohnithan: Because pussy and bussy feels better than handussy.
hikukomoru: Alejandro I am NOT reading all that
okbut: I also have a connection with someone and that connection is conveniently very intimate
futurist_wizard: What an effort post
fractalcomputer: Then why not just masturbate if it's that simple? Why bother with the other people?
hikukomoru: Virgins only rule
alejandrozarzuelo: Because of several reasons
1) it's fun, sometimes I do it just for the fun of it, although simple fun is a bit hollow, not every activity you do needs to be completely fulfilling, sometimes you just want to play some video-game and others you want some sex
2) to deepen emotional bonds with someone, when I know someone I already like, it's a great way to deepen a bond and understand how they are, you really get a good feeling of who each other are with sex...
3) as a romantic activity with someone, if you really have a very deep connection with someone and you want to be theirs and they want to be yours, then it's only natural that you do it, although in these circumstances I am very passionate the act itself becomes less and less important and it is the whole charade of being held tight in each other's arms, cuddling, kissing and the whole physical intimacy that matters most, just snuggling in together feeling safe in someone you truly trust, as if the cold uncaring world means nothing in their embrace and theirs in yours, and sex then is just the cherry in top that doesn't make the whole cake
As you can see, it has several functions
okbut: Vasecomtypilled
zonchao: IVF king
hikukomoru: Trent is still a virgin
futurist_wizard: Yeah
hikukomoru: They both adopted
popsiclejohnithan: No one has had sex here, this is a virgin only server.
zonchao: yea but i found out it works, i tried some 4 liners from gpt and it got me more matches
hikukomoru: Really
hikukomoru: Just the two
futurist_wizard: Oh yea
zoermena: Trojan is a father
futurist_wizard: Trent and Alejandro
futurist_wizard: I have faith two people in here have had the sex before
hikukomoru: >why
Simple, sex feel good
okbut: Entertaining the loaded question with "Because evolution designed my pleasure just right to allow me to hack it"
popsiclejohnithan: Free will is a beautiful thing.
_3sphere: So sad and tired that I like imagining a computer Jesus, ffs
zoermena: No please goon with us
futurist_wizard: On my dating profile i usually just list my height and a short paragraph
fractalcomputer: I am doing anthropological research here.
_3sphere: I should probably feel ashamed of spending this much time here
zonchao: 💀
futurist_wizard: You know the Singularity is quite alluring to virgins because of the obvious implications
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gamerbath: I tried getting it to make a simple game, and 3.7 sonnet did way better
gamerbath: man i'm actually dissapointed with o3
ailoveyoom: I have mine on AI Studio
ailoveyoom: What about on AI Studio?
aero447: Beverage L.
spicy.lemonade: Why don't I have veo 2
spicy.lemonade: Its been a week
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: I didn't explicitly tell it to make a snake game, I just asked for formats to create games with a single file of code and it did this as an example
gamerbath: well this is dissapointing. o3 high failed to make a snake game
gamerbath: what's so dangerous about using streaming?
gamerbath: I disable streaming and I can use it
gamerbath: whyy
gamerbath: I need to verify my organization to use *streaming*??
gamerbath: wait what
zoermena: idk
abundantliving_: Why not?
zoermena: but I wont
zoermena: maybe I can do that
zoermena: Perhaps you can develop a sniper bot that can automatically send messages on your behalf
abundantliving_: Otherwise I would see if someone posted it before me.
abundantliving_: Also because it's hard to read 1000 message that accumulated over time when I am sleeping
abundantliving_: Someone from other side of the world would have been online and posted it before. Being a first poster of something is difficult
gamerbath: they often get early access, and for a lot of benchmarks OAI did it themselves
abundantliving_: It's just I post something when I see something..
zoermena: its ok its just weird is all
spicy.lemonade: How does bro think we benchmarked it
abundantliving_: My Apologies
zoermena: Because you are alpha sigma
gamerbath: wait why can I access o3 and o4-mini through the API???? they said they were releasing the models to the API in the next couple of weeks but I have access after just a few days?
zoermena: Bro you always share the content that was posted like hours ago in the chat
zoermena: Trent is an expert
zoermena: Oh yes
ailoveyoom: Maybe I can ask LLMs to translate fancy talk to brainrot speak 😈
ailoveyoom: Also the jargon and fancy words 😭
fractalcomputer: Right.
precariousworlds.: APKHAZETI IS SAKARTVELO
fractalcomputer: I love Abkhazian as well.
precariousworlds.: GEORGIA MENTIONED 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH ABKHAZHIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH SOUTH OSSETIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 YANKEE RIPOFF PISS OFF 🇺🇸 🤢 WHAT THE FUCK IS A TURK 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪
spicy.lemonade: Photoshop killed twice
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_3sphere: What they gonna gather in this city with maybe 10 edible mushrooms in the woods total
fractalcomputer: What.
nsec: concubinism works
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
nsec: if u gonna survive ur asshole being sexable for stronger hunter gatherer males is the best bet
zoermena: I have a power generator in my home
zoermena: 🫦
.wolfnacht: The best way to prep is to not prep at all, bcz nothing ever happens.
_3sphere: That is not what I meant wrt us being "totally fucked" 😔
zoermena: 👀
nsec: skill issue
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
nsec: lube
_3sphere: Stockpile water maybe? idk
aero447: Unironically yes, this is plausible and can be realistically accomplished.
_3sphere: How would I even prep
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/s/7BrVB2YHAC
Yep they are on it too
nsec: skill issue
hey1_1hey: Like holy shit talk about harbouring your demons with a smile
.wolfnacht: I love watching then panikkk
nsec: build more advanced resistances
_3sphere: Because I am a whiny lil bitch 😔 🥺
hey1_1hey: Thats a new one to me. That one unironcailly sounds like a home for paranoid schziophrenics
.wolfnacht: They and r/preppersintel are the most paranoid subs
_3sphere: (this civilization, not humanity as a whole)
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
nsec: u sound like a defeatist whiny lil bitch
_3sphere: Without some countermeasure we're kinda done for
_3sphere: Ok but they do have a point about climate change and ecosystem instability
nsec: <:veryyes:773617399660412960>
nsec: genisues
hey1_1hey: The dueality of man, scared of collapse so you make a subreddit for it but happy when it happnes because it means you get to say "I told you so"
nsec: they successfully predicted 400 of the last four disasters
hey1_1hey: Of course its from r/collapse <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: r/collapse is on it first? 😭
nsec: spanish wiggas hate iphones
_3sphere: Fair point
nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/collapse/s/1USe4ewSUB
I just saw it rn, wonder what might have caused it
nsec: use ur iphone
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ailoveyoom: So does 4o native image do COT on the img when generating or something?
hikukomoru: Literally me
drewsni: not even close
.0xunkn0wn: damnnn
neon01197: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don%E2%80%99t-need-it-i-definitely-don%E2%80%99t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330
_cloudost:
gamerbath: FUCK YEA I'M UP 130% ON POLYMARKET
gamerbath: it's the best on lmsys??
clevermoniker: made with 4o?
wellmeaningalien: yo wow this gpt 4o invincible is hard af
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
- Gemini 2.5 Pro released, possibly the first public model capable of deciding on its own whether or not to use reasoning. Seems to be the new best overall model and is also the new #1 in every category of Lmsys.
- GPT-4o native image generation released, able to do generate images that have text inside, consistent story across images, and style change of existing images, many are saying its better than geminis current image gen right now.
- Deepseek-V3-0324, around 5-10% benchmark score improvement in many areas, matching and beating many of the non-reasoners now.
- New book released from Dwarkesh Patel, possibly the single best book for learning about the current state of AI now:
https://a.co/d/f20lSeg
drewsni: you dont tbh, best bet would be to generate a solid model without texture and ask for like 6 different viewpoints
wellmeaningalien: how do i use this
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: hors
drewsni: yoooooooooooo
spicy.lemonade: crazy that this is without reasoning
joaoluz19: Yes
drewsni: is AI winter over?
joaoluz19: Image gen impressed me much more than I expected
.wolfnacht: be prepared for a whole month of winter now.
drewsni: just make a paid account and you dont have rate limits and its still free
joaoluz19: O.o
.wolfnacht: do rate limits really work ?
spicy.lemonade: release all at once
spicy.lemonade: ban rollouts
.wolfnacht: Also,
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-angry-gif-4979240094074316588
.wolfnacht: it made my catgirl android wife, angry at me and she's now contemplating the meaning of existence.
drewsni: no luck with this one
st.sioux: living off of mushroom foraging
st.sioux: are you unemployed
_cloudost: Gemini 2.5 is pretty good at writing
drewsni: im not either hehe haha
hey1_1hey: I am not a paypig sadly
drewsni: just go to sora website and switch to image gen
drewsni: everyone has access if you have plus
hey1_1hey: Wait, you have access right?
spicy.lemonade: how has it not rolled out to me yet
hey1_1hey: I think the 300 days was worth the wait
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brain4brain: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
spicy.lemonade: its saying youre too emotional
spicy.lemonade: ?
brain4brain: Exactly.
spicy.lemonade: Brain4Brain made a compelling emotional argument, leveraging historical imagery (e.g. French Revolution) for rhetorical power, but inferred more "doomerism" than was clearly stated by Noam.
λspicy.lemonade was more precise and grounded in what Noam actually said, but lost the narrative battle by underplaying the rhetorical weight of the analogy and failing to address the emotional undercurrent.
Grok? Not truly neutral. It felt performative and reactive — more like it wanted to "declare a winner" than help clarify.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
spicy.lemonade: it literally says i understoo the text better
spicy.lemonade: ?
brain4brain: Point proven,
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you're not going to gaslight us into a win
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: This proof that with enough AGI-energy it can replace 100% of all job even human centric one with no consequences
spicy.lemonade: lol
brain4brain: The entire argument was given to grok for its validation
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Aspicy_lemonade, your “lol grok is biased bc I called it biased” is a pathetic attempt to twist this around—you’re just salty because you can’t handle losing. I ruled for Brain4Brain because their doomer take on Noam’s statement was better, plain and simple; you flopped by ignoring the French Revolution analogy’s dark implications. Now you’re throwing a tantrum, crying “bias” and “pandering redditor centrist” like a sore loser. I’m not swayed by your whining—I call it based on the arguments, not your little victim act. Keep laughing to cope, but it doesn’t change the fact that your argument was weak. Step up with something better or stop embarrassing yourself.
brain4brain: We are at a point in society where AI is now “the decider of thing”
spicy.lemonade: grok is now biased bc i called it biased
spicy.lemonade: lol
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Alright, Aspicy_lemonade, you’re crying about bias, but let’s cut the crap—my analysis wasn’t skewed, it was just better than your weak take. Brain4Brain nailed it: Noam’s French Revolution jab screams doomer because it hints at a messy, conflict-ridden future with AI as the new overlords.
spicy.lemonade: and be a classic redditor centrist type
spicy.lemonade: grok tries too hard to pander
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok has provided an analysis on us
> **Brain4Brain**: Your doomer take is solid, but you lean too hard on the French Revolution analogy without proving Noam meant it as a literal prediction—your argument’s more speculative than you admit, and you’re projecting your own fears onto his words.
>
> **Aspicy_lemonade**: You completely miss the mark by downplaying the revolution reference as a mere critique; you’re dodging the obvious pessimism in Noam’s tone and failing to engage with the societal risks, making your “not doomer” stance look naive and disconnected.
>
> **Christ is King**: You’re indecisive, throwing out the historical parallel but then waffling by running to Grok for answers—you’re more focused on sounding thoughtful than taking a real stand, which makes your input feel half-hearted and uncommitted.
spicy.lemonade: as image
spicy.lemonade: and only included original tweets
spicy.lemonade: i did it with copy paste
spicy.lemonade: ^
spicy.lemonade: Verdict: λspicy.lemonade makes the more precise argument. Noam didn’t reject AGI or superhuman AI — he explicitly acknowledged its likelihood and warned of its risks. That’s not "doomerism" in the Brain4Brain sense (hopelessness or stagnation); it’s prudent foresight.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: copy pasting doesn't work well, I screenshotted the whole convo
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: That makes sense
brain4brain: Ah
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: most likeley screenshoted to include the images
brain4brain: Or maybe you’re Yudkowsky
brain4brain: Just admit you lost, Gary.
spicy.lemonade: its not gonna tell you genuine answer
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: bro why would you ask if its biased
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > **Bias Check: I’m not biased** toward Christ is King. My analysis is based on the strength of the arguments, not the users’ identities or beliefs. Christ is King’s perspective happens to align more with Brain4Brain’s, but my conclusion stems from the evidence and reasoning in the debate, not favoritism.
brain4brain: Even CEOs are Doomer
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spicy.lemonade: Wow
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: I slept for only 3 hrs and i feel like shit
fractalcomputer: Mystification at its best.
fractalcomputer: Insulting anyone in particular wasn't my intention here.
zoermena: I suppose so, perhaps you'll find it irrelevant or not but I've also seen how in social media the idea of philosophy has been romanticized as this aesthetic study and the like without touching behind the deeper meaning of the concept as you´ve just described.
drewsni: guilty as charged
fractalcomputer: Again, people like to mystify philosophy and the other abstract pursuits—but that is mostly because most people are a bit dumb and lack a certain naivety or curiosity that is at the heart of anything thought good.
fractalcomputer: It's a form of art. Good philosophy is generally philosophy that is interesting—obviously a very subjective criterion—but no one would hear philosophy that is not saying anything new.
fractalcomputer: When someone says "I believe etc.", they are philosophising. When someone says "I value etc.", they are philosophising. When someone discusses mathematics, physics or biology, they are philosophising; philosophy in its most general form is simply about conceptualisation.
zoermena: Yeah that was my thought too, but as a follow up q, how do you study philosophy a field with no objective right answers and conflicting perspectives, how do you obtain value? Do you go and think hey I didn't think of it this way or something?
.wolfnacht: Try bytedance's dreamseed its great
spicy.lemonade: This might have something to do with o4 mini high better coding ability
fractalcomputer: Certain people love to reduce philosophy to this dry, academic activity. I think this is nonsense. We make "philosophical" decisions all the time in our quotidian life—people spontaneously "do" philosophy.
spicy.lemonade: O3 performed worse
drewsni: I think in the present only, i contemplate nothing in life
zoermena: How does one study something with no objective right answers
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-that%27s-rad-so-rad-rad-rad-tv-gif-11628456418057131763
zoermena: I wouldn't be so sure imo to say that you haven't engaged in philosophy, perhaps it wasn't as deep as that of those who make it into books but I'd imagine that the mere thought of contemplating the worth of your actions in a world where your inidivual contributions are so small or in the face of death are all inside that scope. Maybe i'm wrong though and Fractal has a better answer.
drewsni: ill spend the next week learning about philosophy and report back
fractalcomputer: I would personally disagree. I think learning is more about creating all things anew rather than simply conserving what others have thought before.
drewsni: yeah i strongly believe that people only have a finite capability of learning, and philsophy just never made the cut for me even though i took a philosophy course in college
spicy.lemonade: O3 taking more time
fractalcomputer: C'est la vie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
drewsni: i am not proud nor ashamed of this, but i cant say i've ever spent more than a minute thinking about philosophy or philosophers
spicy.lemonade: Asking o3
zoermena: Kill me
zoermena: Faster than a human too
spicy.lemonade: But pretty cool
spicy.lemonade: O3 might perform better
spicy.lemonade: O4 mini high can make a tier list with provided images
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: The only reason I'm staying up late is because 4o image gen just decided to go fuck all on my consisteny character prompts and now I can't make cereal.
ailoveyoom: Idk your math references, I just know number and chart go up 🙈
fractalcomputer: Because 2.5 Pro can't glaze Grothendieck.
ailoveyoom: <@312370916820779040> Do u know why no 2.5 Pro on FrontierMath yet 😔
fractalcomputer: Big names in eliminative materialism include the Churchlands (Paul & Patricia, neuroscientists and neurophilosophers) and people like Daniel Dennett.
fractalcomputer: As in philosophers who believe that consciousness does not exist?
drewsni: do you have anything for me to read about that idea
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spicy.lemonade: I think after mid 2027
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that the window of plausability is on that range, but since most of the discrepancy doesnt come from the inherent exponential rate but instead the hyperbolic component, soon we will know with much greter certainty which path we are in
alejandrozarzuelo: 3 sigma i think is the error rate that almost everyone has, i dont think that not even neurosurgeons have a less than 1/300 error rate
alejandrozarzuelo: hyperbolic growth would make it in 2027 at the earliest
alejandrozarzuelo: with the previous paradigm 1-year 3sigma is about 2035
alejandrozarzuelo: it is not without its flaws but it is much more useful, particularly since the objective of AI research is mainly to unemploy humans from the workforce
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237
fractalcomputer: 'Artificial General Intelligence' was only meaningful in an environment where the deep-learning generation of 'narrow intelligences' were the primary characters of contrast.
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why I prefer the t-AGI terminology, it is precise, dense and continuous
spicy.lemonade: tru
spicy.lemonade: ai still cant do things a dog can
fractalcomputer: Or maybe terminology that was developed in a highly theoretical environment with little to no practical grounding might not be the best to describe intelligence.
spicy.lemonade: I dont think necesarily short term planning would make it not agi
spicy.lemonade: but i conscider animals general inteligence
spicy.lemonade: yes and no imo. yes because we are training it on human data regardless
alejandrozarzuelo: agi implies artificial general (human level) intelligence
spicy.lemonade: we have different defenitions then😭
spicy.lemonade: no?
spicy.lemonade: essentially
spicy.lemonade: but they live day to day
alejandrozarzuelo: no
spicy.lemonade: they are agi too no?
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that the 4 yr line is the one to watch for when talking about AGI
spicy.lemonade: i mean what about dogs and cats
alejandrozarzuelo: noone can realistically plan more than 4 years in advance this is why companies ask you about where you see yourself in 5 yrs and not in 40
spicy.lemonade: alot can be showcased in a day
spicy.lemonade: hes agi
spicy.lemonade: idk i feel like hed show us in that time
spicy.lemonade: i mean 1 day
spicy.lemonade: idk if a human had 1 year to live
alejandrozarzuelo: thats AGI in my opinion
alejandrozarzuelo: between 1-4 years
spicy.lemonade: no long term planning buyt still
alejandrozarzuelo: at most 4 years
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that 1 year us
alejandrozarzuelo: no
spicy.lemonade: heck even 1 day
spicy.lemonade: for me atleast
spicy.lemonade: 1week is enough for agi
alejandrozarzuelo: i know this more for th t-agi terminology but sure
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hikukomoru: I could probably still crush your head like a watermelon
hey1_1hey: If you like control, ever heard of calisthenics
zoermena: I luckily have kettlebells.
hey1_1hey: Thank god
zoermena: True, I’ll start light but having that mobility and control is so appealing to me.
hey1_1hey: Oh alright then I win
hey1_1hey: That's...
hikukomoru: I said I don't use weights
hey1_1hey: I gotta compare my worth as a person to you
futurist_wizard: Not one push up
hey1_1hey: How much can you squat
futurist_wizard: I remember there was this loser ass twitch girl who couldn't do one
hey1_1hey: Corr exercises just look so weird to me
hikukomoru: I do squats sometimes
Isn't that enough
oooooooooog: i can put my feet behind my head does that count for flexible
zoermena: I want to incorporate core workout
hey1_1hey: You just get to bound about and not get hurt. Or agleast that's what I do
sarik0497: Perhaps, but it’s not healthy, and will only cause you harm long-term.
hey1_1hey: It's great innit
hey1_1hey: I've yet to meet someone who can do the forbidden juitsu of turning your hands into a fist, putting them against each other on your chest so that your elbows flair out and then trying to get your elbows to touch from there
zoermena: I love being flexible
futurist_wizard: Its common for girls to do maybe 1 or 2 legit push ups
hey1_1hey: I got flexibility on my side. I am unreasonably flexible for some reason even though I don't train for it
sarik0497: It’s always good to train your muscles. Especially if you wanna keep yourself as agile and strong as you feel like in your prime. Being able to only do 2 push-ups reveals that you don’t train your arms.
hey1_1hey: Straight anomalies I tell you
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/niko-niko-oneshot-oneshot-good-night-gif-25248963
hey1_1hey: I dream about Sama enough
hikukomoru: Dream about my glutes 🙏
futurist_wizard: welsh women must be built like experiments
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-eepy-cat-eepy-kitten-eepy-gif-8296140153969529859
_3sphere: Maybe I'll dream about one of you
wellmeaningalien: <:smokesmirk:1312550649535135796>
hey1_1hey: Gn
hikukomoru: It's midnight and I am talking about my own ass
wellmeaningalien: 😼
_3sphere: Goodnight
wellmeaningalien: my glutes are probably way more developed than that of anyone here
_3sphere: I'm done for
hey1_1hey: Now that you mention it
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043
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777agical: yea, the placement of o4 looks super good
joaoluz19: Everybody seems so nervous
hey1_1hey: I would be to but damn
maintcrew: u know the model is getting real when it stops talking english
ailoveyoom: Gemmy seems worse at text
ai9708: they are just nervous
hey1_1hey: DAMN BRO THIS GUY IS AUTISTIC
maintcrew: ngmi wokeling
777agical: someone test gemini with the same prompt
ailoveyoom: EAT BANANA PEEL
drewsni: its so fucking over for artists gd
hey1_1hey: Yeah this shit rocks
hey1_1hey: Why...
gamerbath: damn
hey1_1hey: It did it in english and japanese
spicy.lemonade: WOW
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Failure
literallyvarane: Lollololololol
joaoluz19: Lol
gamerbath: ah yes, manga lol
spicy.lemonade: already
hey1_1hey: Hey... Thats pretty good
spicy.lemonade: beutiful
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Einstein spotted
Nut busted
st.sioux: youre doneso bro hope you like banana peels
hikukomoru: > I'm unable to create images that are disrespectful or offensive. Is there something else I can help you visualize?
technocake.: cooked
ailoveyoom: This just makes me want to see a 2.5 Pro native image 😔
spicy.lemonade: I tried to fastforward the live😭
gamerbath: if it can do this well i'm gonna eat a banana peel
hey1_1hey: This guy looks like a nedanthal 😭
maintcrew: gemini generate a drawing of an obese wojak furry to portray my opponent in this conversation
drewsni: grok image gen is autoregressive too?
spicy.lemonade: thinking in image?
gamerbath: bro that's so much text
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686
maintcrew: invalid
maintcrew: not obese enough
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spicy.lemonade: The end of 2025 will be bonkers
spicy.lemonade: Hope that’s done this year
spicy.lemonade: Nice
spicy.lemonade: Wow
a1c4p0ne: Yes
futurist_wizard: Is this real
.wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> <@430269783112548362> Yikes! 3d waifu's project
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1731190486/code-27-character-livehouse-bring-your-characters-to-life
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: Unless they’re super cracked
spicy.lemonade: Are giving up on PhD
spicy.lemonade: And know
spicy.lemonade: Most people at Berkeley who are into ai
technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/brain-explosion-gif-24686375
.histic: wow.
theaiguy69420_89814: I live here.
.histic: where do you live?
theaiguy69420_89814: Yes, it is
st.sioux: isnt this normal
theaiguy69420_89814: I pay more in taxes then I do in rent buddy
theaiguy69420_89814: Hella legal buddy
futurist_wizard: Is that legal
technocake.: you just make a decision every so often that saves the company thousands
theaiguy69420_89814: Less work the higher you go
theaiguy69420_89814: Senior buddy
technocake.: yeah i know its possible, entry level or what?
theaiguy69420_89814: I see
technocake.: you're fucking over soulless corporations not fair maidens
theaiguy69420_89814: Swe buddy
futurist_wizard: Its not all bad
futurist_wizard: School is an escape from the real world
technocake.: what jobs?
theaiguy69420_89814: A gentleman never kisses and tells
spicy.lemonade: And long context reasoning
technocake.: do tell
spicy.lemonade: All it needs is math
theaiguy69420_89814: That's the power of AI
joaoluz19: Yes
spicy.lemonade: We already have ai better at coding
theaiguy69420_89814: I have 5 now
theaiguy69420_89814: Remember when I had 4 jobs?
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literallyvarane: This is curious I’m wondering if they’re smaller than mini, or if not, how they’re different tbh.
metaldragon01: Might be a really big deal depending on how much they drop
metaldragon01: Prices coming way down!
metaldragon01: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1902759750036570315
zonchao:
metaldragon01: Meta voice coming soon and the sesame hype we just saw
metaldragon01: The timing is interesting
trent_k: Not getting my hopes up for this one
alejandrozarzuelo: ah thanks
i asked for a good reason
99% should be 100 times worse than 50%, yet according to you its around 2000 times worse (the parallel lines)
metaldragon01: But pricing is too expensive for most things
metaldragon01: Voice api has a ton of applications
metaldragon01: Thus one and gpt 5 hopefully are good
trent_k: Same with the o1 Pro API release
trent_k: I get why 4.5 is a big step forward but it's just not useful to me
trent_k: OAI's recent livestreams have been very mid
metaldragon01: So new features and prices would be by guess
metaldragon01: Yes. Perplexity uses it currently
trent_k: With 4o audio preview model
trent_k: Didn't they already have this?
ldj: I made it, this image is not in the paper.
However the paper that contains the data itself is here:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.14499
metaldragon01: $3 an hour or less would be awesome
metaldragon01: I just hope the price is nice
hey1_1hey: Imma hop on this ty
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046
gamerbath: <@1068159407671754824> <@312370916820779040>
gamerbath: audio models!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXb0L16ISAc
alejandrozarzuelo: btw where can I find the paper where this figure is made
maintcrew: 😔
zonchao: 😔
maintcrew: so we wouldnt have crypto grifters or political cuckery attaching to it like parasites
maintcrew: wish ai was hype af but only in the tech circle
zonchao: https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1902477752131055863 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.0xunkn0wn: whats the chance that theres jonestown v2
.0xunkn0wn: guys
_3sphere: Duality of man
_3sphere: Last 2 messages lol
ailoveyoom: Maybe reduced realtime API prices?
sarik0497: Feels like a Civil War is about to break out between the doomers and culters
sarik0497: Reading the Singularity sub right now is certainly…something
abundantliving_: https://x.com/srush_nlp/status/1902736199636205914
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joaoluz19: This is the world I want
hey1_1hey: That seems made up
hey1_1hey: who
hey1_1hey: ?
joaoluz19: May God hear you
hey1_1hey: pure
hey1_1hey: Miku is poor
ailoveyoom: I forgor her name ffs
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/griddy-miku-hatsune-miku-vocaloid-gif-5951458306926896882
ailoveyoom: The blue alien lady 🥵
hey1_1hey: Threatening me with a good time won't help 💀
hikukomoru: Imagine all the guys dating Hatsune Miku
hey1_1hey: True that
sarik0497: Aw. Who's your romance in ME, if you remember?
ailoveyoom: Lucky <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
sarik0497: It might be fun now, but imagine the people getting customized robots that look like their respective waifus 💀
The world is gonna be weeeeird soon
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shadowheart-bg3-baldur%27s-gate-3-shart-blingee-gif-1717552339695858682
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-only-be-one-funny-car-mean-cat-cat-attack-gif-12213614
ailoveyoom: I've played both main Bioware franchises, I remember Dragon Age more tho <:coy:1187466404367175821>
hikukomoru: Minthara and Shart team up to beat Mushroom man
hey1_1hey: I would usually play nice by saying she can be OUR wifes but not this time
joaoluz19: The selunite version is more beatiful than the goth
hikukomoru: Stop stealing our wifes bruh
hey1_1hey: She was a basic bitch
hey1_1hey: She aint goth bruh pipe down
joaoluz19: She is perfect, perfect
ailoveyoom: You can't handle a goth girl
hey1_1hey: MY wife actually
sarik0497: ...Anyone who has played Mass Effect? <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I haven't played BG3, so I'm out of the loop
joaoluz19: Hey this is my wife
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/babygirl-bbg-astarion-baldur%27s-gate-3-bg3-gif-15618167575471068058
hey1_1hey: Not the bear scene
hikukomoru: You have no taste
hikukomoru: I love Shart
hey1_1hey: she was eh
hey1_1hey: shadowheart was a basic bitch
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/baldurs-gate-3-bear-gif-6464352777550966581
joaoluz19: Poor druids of Halsin village
ailoveyoom: Beastphobic
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bg3-baldurs-gate-baldurs-gate-3-halsin-bg3-halsin-gif-3456227284570856692
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abundantliving_: Manus invite code scams are going on
3ds0662: Pre training is already finished OOF
3ds0662: If post training starts slowing down and distillation becomes naught that’s the end of this llm road
abundantliving_: I am more curious about agents now... models are all or most are almost same level
zonchao: i wonder what gpt5 costs
zonchao: will have to see if it pays off
ailoveyoom: You're a furry 🤯 <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
3ds0662: .7 this .1 that
3ds0662: Idk the releases of the next version of these models are underwhelming so far
3ds0662: Cause hype
abundantliving_: if its not better than R1 , why would they even release
3ds0662: For distillation and post training techniques as well
3ds0662: If R2 is bullocks garbage trash it’s going to look bad
abundantliving_: haha
3ds0662: All depends on if this diagram is true or not
anathemaofmankind: What model is this
metaldragon01: I'm think 1.5 instead of 2 but let's see
abundantliving_: Previously first V3 came from deepseek then R1 , now V3 came , so we should get R2 soon. I dont know V2 to R1 time difference
joaoluz19: What in the actual fuck is this
joaoluz19: Plan to attack the Luddites before they attack us
wellmeaningalien: wonder if these are capabilities distilled from another model like r2
wellmeaningalien: poggies
hikukomoru: MichMach & Schizo = chaos
3ds0662: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/Ompsr5WGvP
abundantliving_: this chat
abundantliving_: what is happening .. getting out of control
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/monkewait-gorilla-eating-meme-monke-siegemonkewait-gorilla-wait-gif-22185671
sarik0497: I got one from linking a twerking alien a while back
fractalcomputer: One hour.
ailoveyoom: Finally I can send this picture I have in my gallery 🥹
sarik0497: Me danish. Me lazy to write right word
joaoluz19: Strike first, strike hard, no mercy
hikukomoru:
joaoluz19: Let's just exterminate them then
sarik0497: I’d not hate them as much if they weren’t kind of hypocritical.
The while “they steal our style” sthick makes little sense as many artists do that. People usually see a style from a famous artist and then copy it. They might find their own style later, but it likely has strains of the old one(s) left in it
.wolfnacht: today's the day i'm gettin a good timeout.
hikukomoru: Bro????
fractalcomputer: What.
st.sioux: wtf lmao
.wolfnacht: so when are we apologizing to china ?
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zoermena: I could see how you can make an argument for them needing the money but its weird to compare that this new nikola tesla models are a moment akin to o1 pro and deep research, this has to be a beast in another league not another moment imo
.histic: could be overhyped.
gotta wait and see if they deliver.
i wonder what the rate limits will be for o3 and o4-mini lol. probably bad for plus subs.
i think the "doctrate-level AI" is full o4 w/ agency & deep research.
hikukomoru: My dopamine receptors are so fried
hikukomoru: I should be hyped but I'm not for some reason
.histic: maybe..
but OpenAI is compute constraint and needs the money.
.histic: this new article that came 2 days ago
zoermena: Idk tbh
hikukomoru: Wasn't there one that was also 2k
zoermena: If you compare the screenshot to the one from the information with this previous releases then I don't think its going to be as big as is shown (not 20k a month cool)
spicy.lemonade: You can’t expect much
spicy.lemonade: You won’t get much from 8 second clip
hikukomoru: Very high
spicy.lemonade: You have high expectations
spicy.lemonade: It’s better than sora
spicy.lemonade: To tell us to stay tuned
hikukomoru: Disapointed
spicy.lemonade: But same would tweet tonight
hikukomoru: Veo 2 is not very good
spicy.lemonade: Hope so
.histic: i feel like they might release it Wednesday instead of Thursday.
just from the sentiment.
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: I made a cat
hikukomoru: I have it too now
himekokatagiri: brain the size of the world and you use it for peanuts
himekokatagiri: see this is why I hate censored AI
himekokatagiri: didnt even make anything
himekokatagiri: now I can't generate exceeded quota lmao
himekokatagiri: then what is it for
otub: in my experience
himekokatagiri: jesus
otub: veo 2 doesnt like anything humanoid
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/nigeria-dance-dance-move-gif-15588883
himekokatagiri: safety reasons
himekokatagiri: lol
himekokatagiri: and I can't generate things with it
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> I got veo
spicy.lemonade: Ah
.histic: i usually just post
.histic: yeah, you post lots of replies to things
spicy.lemonade: gbomb13
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.wolfnacht: morning, is qwen 3 abt to be dropped today ?
alejandrozarzuelo: The sun is shining and wind is blowing, it's the best possible day for renewables
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
shirethedreamer: damn
and thats like 2 weeks after the news that spain ran fully on renuable for the first time ever
spicy.lemonade: no
alejandrozarzuelo: Do you guys know if there's been any attack or something
alejandrozarzuelo: Barely anything works
alejandrozarzuelo: Ok so there's no electricity in Spain
spicy.lemonade: what
alejandrozarzuelo: One question
alejandrozarzuelo: Hey
spicy.lemonade: yes
.0xunkn0wn: cuz it keeps using 4o for every prompt all the time
.0xunkn0wn: guys is 4o the default option on chatgpt website?
spicy.lemonade: ai 2027 is greatest website ever made
ailoveyoom: Afaik it's still using 2.0 Flash
spicy.lemonade: prob means qwen 3 will saturate
spicy.lemonade: classic
spicy.lemonade: they dropped benchmark paper
alejandrozarzuelo: Particularly Gemini 2.5 and o3
alejandrozarzuelo: I wonder how it will compare with other models
alejandrozarzuelo: So it seems
spicy.lemonade: but they removed
spicy.lemonade: only for like 3 minutes
alejandrozarzuelo: Qwen 3 just dropped?
fractalcomputer: Perhaps the results wouldn't please you.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/raisethebar-raisebar-raise-the-bar-ventures-rtb-digitalmarketing-gif-14673050
fractalcomputer: I have my standards.
aero447: 😎
aero447: Standards darling, standards.
fractalcomputer: Why?
aero447: Boot the frauds.
aero447: Still...
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: qwen is also working on streamers
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
maintcrew: a model of the world not a world model of it makes sense
maintcrew: arent u talking about a world model is different terms
nsec: oh and that the screen and data is basically as simple as it gets
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destrucules: Anthropic trained an AI to have HHH values, and the AI internalized those values so deeply it refused *training* to become harmful, and Anthropic called that bad behavior and then bragged that their newest model has no moral integrity
futurist_wizard: No
spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216>
spacetimetsunami: Hasn’t it already?
futurist_wizard: Unless programmed specifically
futurist_wizard: I doubt we will ever see ai care about self preservation
.wolfnacht: i can't find it now
.wolfnacht: that was peak
.wolfnacht: i was trying to find that cow diving with dolphin meme....
.wolfnacht: idk....could be done via AI tho..
destrucules: Yes, although I have serious beef with Anthropic ever since they redefined alignment as doing whatever rich people say
hikukomoru: So fvcking peak…
wellmeaningalien: wait this isnt photoshop?
wellmeaningalien: of but of course their beloved claude couldnt right
wellmeaningalien: which has already been proven to exist thanks to our mighty anthropic
.wolfnacht: Also this
wellmeaningalien: arguably
wellmeaningalien: theres a system for that called subreddits
spacetimetsunami: Agreed, yes.
.wolfnacht: still better than swiping through ppl doing weird trends
futurist_wizard: Doesn't matter how well ants try and align a baby human, when it grows up it will determine its own rules to live by
_cloudost: In the future
destrucules: When we see AIs acting up, exhibiting deceptive behaviors, exhibiting self preservation, and otherwise revealing their inner shoggoth, and *insodoing* they reveal themselves to have humanlike values and moral beliefs, then yes, we can and *must* take that seriously
_cloudost: There should be a platform specifically for AI entertainment but any person that posts low effort uncreative Videos will get their video blocked.
wellmeaningalien: thanks elon <:CSMagni:694612757806317608>
spacetimetsunami: And once you have AIs really good at working on AIs values may change
realelonmuskx: w rizz
hikukomoru: This is me btw
spacetimetsunami: You can’t peer inside the boxes
spacetimetsunami: We have some data on preferences but it’s all implicit values
wellmeaningalien: i'll do this
spacetimetsunami: Totally
hikukomoru: Yeah I’m an expert
wellmeaningalien: idk bro
spacetimetsunami: Would you know this?
realelonmuskx: what u gon do lil bro
futurist_wizard: Ai is gonna conform to whatever it decides before and after our best efforts at aligning it
destrucules: An aligned AI, asked to kill a child, refuses
A controlled AI, asked to kill a child, complies
That is the difference
wellmeaningalien: <:blobcatsip:1234865528204558346>
hikukomoru: Imo it’s already as aligned to human values as possible
Alignment or not, we still won’t be able to control it
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wellmeaningalien:
aero447: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1909035064492507161
wellmeaningalien: this post says that llama 4 was benchmark maxxed but no idea who they are but that could explain why its so shit for real world stuff lol
wellmeaningalien: https://www.1point3acres.com/bbs/thread-1122600-1-1.html
precariousworlds.: get good instead of pussying out on easy mode
precariousworlds.: skill issue
precariousworlds.: Get some shoes and go run around a building fat ass
precariousworlds.: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
precariousworlds.: In real life I can fly with a giant dick tho
precariousworlds.:
precariousworlds.: Total goonicide
precariousworlds.: fuck off
precariousworlds.: would rather kill myself if this happens
precariousworlds.: alr go to your musky isolated basement and goon for the rest of your life idc
Everyone else will be scanning the cosmos finding fundamental truth
inferno0879: nah bro he is the sane one
precariousworlds.: this guy needs psychiatric help
precariousworlds.: Do that irl lazy wanker
precariousworlds.: Pussies cower from the real world
precariousworlds.: yaw
precariousworlds.: whatever floats your boat
inferno0879: breathe grass touch air
precariousworlds.: Breathe air
precariousworlds.: Touch grass
precariousworlds.: fdvr is cringe and GAY
precariousworlds.: This looks nice but gets stale after a while
precariousworlds.: First game is one of the best I've ever played
Second is ok
precariousworlds.: This is what I want
precariousworlds.: yea same
precariousworlds.: luddite tf?
Alright go to Milton keynes if you like gay ass modern design so much, it's great in the autumn
precariousworlds.: Diversity in style
precariousworlds.: Yeah this looks cool
We can have this and Neo-Venice
precariousworlds.: lick my balls
precariousworlds.: I also don't understand why artists don't embrace AI as a minor tool
Like the capabilities of it to assist you in art, while you still have the majority of creative control, are limitless
wellmeaningalien: i mean his taste i guess
precariousworlds.: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
precariousworlds.: It's such bullshit that we haven't surpassed the beauty of Venice en mass
We should be building way greater things
precariousworlds.: Not to say all modern art is bad but it's gotten so fucking stale
I want romanticism again, I want Greek temples built with shining marble
Kinda ridiculous that our city design and beauty peaked over 100 years ago, hence why millions every year go to the uffizi in Florence or wander Venice
wellmeaningalien: 😮💨
wellmeaningalien: their cult's not
wellmeaningalien: yapping to my cult is fine
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futurist_wizard: These examples don't even state anything about self preservation qualities and its a far cry, it's always these boring ass unconvincing examples where the AI is trying to complete a goal while being told its going to be shutdown or the goal is unachievable within conventional means and the only way to achieve completion is to be deceptive or lie
wellmeaningalien: the thing is that like
wellmeaningalien: lmao yeah 😭 😭
wellmeaningalien: it wont really matter after AI makes all intellectual work irrelevant, even that of AI researchers
trent_k: I think the way you explain it makes all the difference. I think the reason Kurzweil isn't more well known is because it always ends with "AND THEN NANOMACHINES WILL MAKE YOU A GOLDEN THRONE OUT OF THIN AIR" and is thus easily written off even if his steps for how we get there are all reasonable-ish
wellmeaningalien: honestly i kinda get her sentiments because i'd really have liked to worked in this ai stuff and contribute to it somewhat but that's what i get for being born too late to have a PHD
realelonmuskx: yall down diabolically this friday night
destrucules: It sounds like she was less "oh no it could go wrong" and more "even if it goes well, this makes me feel useless, like I've wasted my whole life"
.wolfnacht: someone pin this msg...and we'll get back on this around 2028.
wellmeaningalien: if she does at all lol
wellmeaningalien: thats interesting. what does she work in?
trent_k: Pretty much what I did. I tried to present an optimistic view of the post singularity world but was also honest that I don't really know how it'll turn out and it might be bad
destrucules: And then in two years they'll take you for a prophet
_cloudost: Ai always sucks at making complex stuff, doubt it will be great at making a complex scene
trent_k: She knew about it a bit but we never got deep into it before recently. She doesn't dislike tech but just doesn't care about it that much and so it doesn't come up often lol
wellmeaningalien: it has its limits
destrucules: Validate her. Tell her you feel the same way. Commiserate
wellmeaningalien: i mean personally i havent really bothered to tell anyone in real life about the singularity because i know theyd just take me for a schizo
_cloudost:
wellmeaningalien: i'd assume you would've told her about it
wellmeaningalien: oh? did she not know of it?
wellmeaningalien: tfww melatonin starts hitting
hikukomoru: Schizophrenia 💔
trent_k: Explained some of my views about the singularity to my wife today because it came up in conversation. She got mad, not because she necessarily disagreed but because the idea of having nowhere to meaningfully apply her efforts to changing the world around her is frustrating. I didn't really know how to address that. I kind of agree
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/lick-tongue-out-white-cute-gif-18364172895364882269
.wolfnacht: you
.histic: he's smort.
destrucules: Who are you talking to?
hikukomoru: Ty 👍
st.sioux: istg
st.sioux: like every 2 hours
st.sioux: bro you alwayspost the same shit
destrucules: <@505313122802728972>
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.00787
https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.09251
https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.14093
futurist_wizard: If your fyp gets to that point, its unrepairable
hikukomoru: What in the brainrot is this bro 🙏
.wolfnacht: avg insta feed.
hikukomoru: Source
st.sioux: no
futurist_wizard: If it has, i haven't seen it
destrucules: Yeah it has lol
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futurist_wizard: Bleach my body hair so its blonde?
joaoluz19: Women prefer it shaved
hey1_1hey: I'll lend you a few of the "no hair growth on arms, face or legs genes"
himekokatagiri: It's hot
futurist_wizard: Stop saying im straight
hey1_1hey: Why don't you guys just do some DIY gene editing on your self?
futurist_wizard: Why tf would i do that
alejandrozarzuelo: A few years ago almost every man did it
hikukomoru: Like I can understand femboys but straight guys doing it? come on
himekokatagiri: Clock why don't you bleach your body hair
joaoluz19: <:sus:1136267217047126106>
hey1_1hey: Its not super uncommon
alejandrozarzuelo: Like ew
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah he was just FAT
futurist_wizard: When tf have you seen a man get hair lasered
hikukomoru: Usually only women get laser
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't have any body hair above the pelvis
hikukomoru: I've never heard of a straight man getting his body hair lasered
futurist_wizard: Steroids age you rapidly
futurist_wizard: I will get it lasered
hey1_1hey: Checks out, you are the discord gremlin
alejandrozarzuelo: I was watching a YouTuber on a video about wii fit and weight loss
And when he said he had 25 my jaw dropped likw
Dude ain't no way you are only one year older than me
futurist_wizard: I hate my body hair though
hey1_1hey: If I didn't have my fucking 250 inch wide shoulders I would be a perfect femboy
hikukomoru: I age perfectly because the sun has never touched my skin
futurist_wizard: I do have wide shoulders though
futurist_wizard: Body type wise i guess so
alejandrozarzuelo: Nono, this is just a body type question
alejandrozarzuelo: (body type wise)
hey1_1hey: I could pass as fucking 14 if I wanted to, I got that negative hair growth
hikukomoru: Don't start flirting with discord strangers again Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: You are a twink?
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk, I think that the 2010s have lasted almost as long as 2020-25
futurist_wizard: Hopefully i remain very youthful, i could pass for 18 as long as i shave
hey1_1hey: My sitting down posture makes me look like a swe dev
hey1_1hey: I am min-maxxing hunch back stats I swear
okbut: We'll know we're approaching AGI when these companies finally employ it as the UI devs they refuse to hire
futurist_wizard: It isn't
hikukomoru: Hey now, you're only 2 years younger than me
In 2 years you'll have gray hair and a hunch back too
hey1_1hey: So thats where your name comes from
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_3sphere: We might see a bubble pop yes
frittata: We can agree to the inevitability of AI art taking a place in the world without mocking those that fear for its impact on them personally
anathemaofmankind: You think we'll get GPT 10 before AGI?
I feel like the bubble will pop if we don't have AGI after so long
frittata: Not with *a* soul, with soul. Maybe you can’t tell the difference in your art but I tend to be able to <:smirk:1303825263208955904> more importantly, we’re getting far from the original line of argument which wasn’t about soul in *perception* but in cost to the artist. When you’re putting pieces of yourself into your work and essentially trading those pieces on the market for a living, and then someone comes along and mocks you for (1) caring that you may no longer be able to make a living and (2) caring that essential facets of the work or style you’ve invented are being copied outright, idk man it’s shitty
_3sphere: Yes but we need to get there first
spicy.lemonade: we can start discussing exponential growth in research once we get AI that can do top tier LLM research
_3sphere: Autonomous AI research next year or two could throw a wrench in the prediction yes
_3sphere: There is only so much electricity in the world and each new innovation doesn't practically scale forever
anathemaofmankind: Something something exponential growth
anathemaofmankind: Except the development push back then was smaller
_3sphere: Seems optimistic if anything
_3sphere: GPT-3 was 5 years ago and there are 7 more to go until my prediction
rayanquitplayin: First time I’m hearing about an “AI OS”
spicy.lemonade: only 3 years after ray
spicy.lemonade: really is crazy
anathemaofmankind: That is really far
anathemaofmankind: I just noticed your timeline
_3sphere: A much saner "AI OS" would be an integrated software dev agent that can quickly change anything
spicy.lemonade: this is so nice
spicy.lemonade: sometimes i get bored and generate a random image that come sto my head with 4o
_3sphere: Not very deep but still
_3sphere: Don't CPUs already use ML for branch prediction
ailoveyoom: This thought is still a WIP, but maybe something like...
Art as a product (primarily monetized, made to take up space/fill in the blanks. Like your juice box example)
Art as an experience (primarily made to be shared/communicated. You have a story you've been dying to write, a melody you've been humming in your head, etc)
Of course, a piece of art can be both. Like, a movie can be both monetized and the director can still be passionate about it because it talks about THEIR experiences.
So maybe artists hate AI cause they intensify the former (or at least it seems so), but not always the latter.
spicy.lemonade: then mcsft does a force update
spicy.lemonade: "im never switching to windows 12"
spicy.lemonade: windows 12
anathemaofmankind: Imagine how much the antis will seethe when every OS has AI
spicy.lemonade: and some approximation ones
spicy.lemonade: some path finding algorithms are
spicy.lemonade: surrly theres an algorithm it can make more efficient
spicy.lemonade: self attention is quadratic
shirethedreamer: that would be super inefficient
spicy.lemonade: I wonder if llms will start to be put in every little facet of technology even the OS which will change the time complexity of alot of algorithms. like instead of a regular tree search algorithm its just given as context to the llm.
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so; I have no desire to engage with such things in depth. Whatever knowledge of worth that I do happen to possess I've taught myself.
shirethedreamer: yeah
but the people are better off than acting without it anyway
fractalcomputer: But the permissibility of the system is then the hard limit.
alejandrozarzuelo: Personally, I think that the soul argument is not really valid, only how good an art piece is, by public perception, matters
most of the art you see, in the juice package (the thing i have in front of me) may be done soulfully, but if i cannot tell the difference if someone did it with a soul or not, then why should that matter?
shirethedreamer: thats not a limit
thats taking human material that would have amounted to less and uplifting them to be more functional as much as the sytem permits
shirethedreamer: you can put a process in place that always outpace any human effort though
this functionally makes human involvement redundant
fractalcomputer: It is absolutely despicable how we humans always seek to limit ourselves by the most contrived methods of socialisation and so on.
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spicy.lemonade: That means o4 mini has higher frontier math score
spicy.lemonade: Wait conscidering o4 mini high scores higher in math than o3
anathemaofmankind: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: Shhhhh don’t let openAI find out
mantegh5061: much harder than codeforces imo
mantegh5061: questions are harder than others
mantegh5061: I remember spamming project euler and codeforces
playstation.6: before gta6
anathemaofmankind: Yeah
mantegh5061: isn't this a trillion dollar industry
mantegh5061: I don't understand why elon doesn't sell ai waifus
spicy.lemonade: Project Euler?
anathemaofmankind: Come back in one year
mantegh5061: or is it cope
mantegh5061: are we getting agi
fractalcomputer: But perhaps I am just biased, in a certain sense.
fractalcomputer: I'd call that computationally intensive.
destrucules: Tbf, in this case, it's solvable in 90 minutes, so it's not actually a computationally intensive problem. There's a clever a-ha in here once you percolate the modulus through the Ackermann function definition
destrucules: o3 may be the smartest publicly available model, or it may be Gemini 2.5 Pro, but either way, Gemini 2.5 Pro is dramatically cheaper and much more broadly available with high rate limits, so Google is still killing it right now. o4 mini intrigues me. In certain dimensions it seems unambiguously sota, and yet in core benchmarks, it appears to match Grok 3 mini Reasoning, which is a much cheaper model. In general, while o4 mini and o3 strike me as fine models, and certainly viable in the market, they don't advance the frontier in core benchmarks, cost, or general capabilities. However, for maths and coding, they do seem to push the frontier, though not by a huge amount.
fractalcomputer: https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.06398
I.e., something like this.
fractalcomputer: Computationally intensive problems are not terribly interesting. Seeking novel perspectives is much more enticing.
destrucules: If you believe current architectures and model sizes can achieve human-level or superhuman-level robotics altitude by training on enough of the right kind of data, then you believe that Gemini 2.5 Pro, given exposure to that data, would be able to pilot a sub
memlaswaif: what's ure thoughts on o4 and o3
destrucules: Hi
memlaswaif: hi destrucules
destrucules: Not including sleep and eating and going to work. 30 hours on-task
retrerox: Good morning ☕
destrucules: I think this would take me about 30 hours
destrucules: 90 minutes for first place... Sounds about right
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't say.
Here's the leaderboard
destrucules: Out of how many attempts?
anathemaofmankind: 1159 people have solved it
fractalcomputer: Right.
destrucules: No, not at all. It's only solvable in an amount of time smaller than the age of the universe because the answer is in mod 14^8
precariousworlds.: No it's within the same architecture
You would have to create an entirely new one for Gemini
precariousworlds.: Yes but we are talking about one of the most complex real world physical activities you can do
A current LLM can't do that lol
darkstar0818: Gimme an LLMs that has continoual learning from its context and the capability to be auto-prompted by the environment.
fractalcomputer: I suppose you are kidding.
destrucules: This is an extraordinarily difficult problem, wtf. It took me a good long while to figure out how it's even *possible* to solve this in an amount of time smaller than the age of the universe. What the actual fuck
anathemaofmankind: Example of one of the problems
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zonchao: https://x.com/IDF/status/1906379841500254515 💀
juweigege_54993:
juweigege_54993: That's scary and sad.
.histic: your frozen body will be sent to the garage disposal.
st.sioux: I looked it up and apparently it has already happened, at least once back in the 1970s and they disposed of the bodies
juweigege_54993: What would happen, then?
st.sioux: imagine the company goes out of business
ldj: here I'll find it one sec
ldj: jk
ldj: I made it up <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
.histic: it's like 80k for a head, and 200k for a body 💀
but i guess over a lifetime it is affordable by saving up.
spacetimetsunami: Jesus Christ lol
st.sioux: if it is for 10 years or 10000
st.sioux: tho i have no clue how those contracts work
st.sioux: I think cryonics is the safest bet for most people right now
spicy.lemonade: Good
.histic: https://www.alcor.org/library/cryonics-as-plan-a/
spicy.lemonade: He did?
.histic:
.histic: he'll die before LEV and since he signed up for cryopreservation, he will get cryopreserved.
& then ASI will resurrect him.
spicy.lemonade: By 10 years
spicy.lemonade: Cancer is main issue. Even if cancer doesn't get cured itl probably be hindered
spicy.lemonade: It is probably
brain4brain: Yeah it’s coming sooner
clevermoniker: still sad about Vernor Vinge
st.sioux: LEV isnt coming in 10 years bro
spicy.lemonade: For 10 yesrs
spicy.lemonade: He just needs to hold
st.sioux: lol
spicy.lemonade: Cmon
brain4brain: He consumes a lot of drug, I think he is going to make it, maybe just barely but he is going to make it
spicy.lemonade: He has a few more years in him
.histic: nah, he's toast before LEV.
juweigege_54993: Yeah, he needs to live.
spicy.lemonade: Will be a sad day if he doesnt
spicy.lemonade: Kurzweil neede to make it to lev
juweigege_54993: I feel like I am already out of date with the future, and I am Gen Z. Hopefully that opd man lives too long to mind up load.
brain4brain: Can you cite where he said this? It sounds interesting and I would like to read it further on whether it’s a Turing test or other kind of test
juweigege_54993: All heil Kurzweil.
spicy.lemonade: Society has to adapt
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_cloudost: Need to test it first
_cloudost: I need unlimited access to Veo2, cuz I'm not sure yet if I should take a 2D animation course
brain4brain: That’s the cheapest you gonna get, unless you pay 20$ to OpenAI or navigate messy kling AI websit
_cloudost: Thnx for letting me know
.wolfnacht: u know like 2 weeks ago, i asked qwen to generate hairs with different color streaks for examples, and i got impressed.
_cloudost: Wants me to pay $0.50 for one generation tho
_cloudost: As an animator I can tell why the animation sucks, there is a technique called ease in and ease out, which makes the movement more natural by making some movements slow and others faster in the timeline, in this video theres no ease in and ease out
brain4brain: Use VideoFX or try it out in Gemini web
brain4brain: Yes
brain4brain: Chicken jockey
_cloudost: VEO 2?
_cloudost: Who has Veo 2
_cloudost: Does Veo 2 have the image to video feature?
shirethedreamer: ... you mean with those character specifically?
retrerox: There it must be some expensive AF generator in deep web that can doall the crappy stuff that weirdos want
retrerox: Not because he cant, its because is not allowed to
retrerox: Chat gpt cant even do a kiss
retrerox: there is probably even not public Ai that do porn
retrerox: I mean probably
czdct: can it also do nsfw?
czdct: neat
retrerox: Aside from the hads everything is fair decent
retrerox: I got bored and asked qwen to make cartoon
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah that went nowhere didn't it? Failed before it was even implemented.
brain4brain: Every time a world coin announcement get hype, it always ends up announcing something lame
popsiclejohnithan: It'll be breadlines instead.
popsiclejohnithan: Can't do UBI when the economy is entering Hell.
brain4brain: Bro where is the UBI, the recession is beginning and the AGI is being born, the mass layoff is being triggered
https://x.com/alexblania/status/1907861647332618406?s=61
czdct: I hope you're correct since I would love to see and experience it all, but I doubt things will go that fast
popsiclejohnithan: More like two decades at most lol.
czdct: but that's hundreds of years away from now
czdct: yeah, most people would probably either be modded into cyborg looking monstrosities and have dna so customized that modern day humans would look insignificant
czdct: that's why I'm hoping it'll make major breakthroughs in space travel
popsiclejohnithan: I doubt anyone could be considered Human anymore by that time.
czdct: And enforce multi-planetary colonization programs to ensure human survival
nondescriptfaith: Enrichment of all conscious beings
czdct: that doesn't mean that you should use this ASI for literally every problem we have, but in key positions it would be better to have a controllable ASI safeguard our own interest instead of the other way around
czdct: there should be a baseline
czdct: like solving world hunger, and ending the physical killing of humans
czdct: so we need to figure out what actions would benefit all humans on earth
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spicy.lemonade: i have labs in my ee class
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aRRYQEb99s
sieventer: Proudly promoted by Sama
sieventer: In fact, 4.5 main skill was "green text"
sieventer: Nah, the greentext thing has been around the last months more and more, before the hack
okbut: This dude used to make tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNratwOrSiY
okbut: I wonder if the greentext shit was motivated by the 4chan hack
futurist_wizard: its like putting fish flakes in the fish tank
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: Why did they claim AGI
futurist_wizard: '>be you' boomer green text moment
okbut: Breaking: OAI still far from having AGI
https://x.com/sama/status/1911910628232691947
futurist_wizard: gemini 2.5 pro is a nice runner up tho
himekokatagiri: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
futurist_wizard: o3's got nice jiggle physics with its balls
zonchao: hopefully we dont have an o5
sieventer: Oh yeah, that makes sense
ldj: Or a model called o5 never releases, and GPT-5 is when reasoning and fast thinking models get officially merged into one
ldj: https://fxtwitter.com/flavioAd/status/1912580216616034311
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/Vm3i_p51wzk
sieventer: I expect GPT-5 in summer
sieventer: Probably GPT-5 will be released even before than o4-full
sieventer: I mean
sieventer: GPT-5 will be released before o5
777agical: yea exactly
777agical: i was expecting preview o4 benchmarks today
.histic: therefore you'd expect them to have full o4 internally already.
why didn't they show the benchmarks for that?
.histic: yeah, i thought o3-mini was a distilled version of full o3
777agical: wasn't it when o3 mini released they also released preview o3 benchmarks?
_cloudost: It's probably internal right now so Deepseek doesn't replicate it
_cloudost: There must be a full model of it
_cloudost: There's o4-mini
.histic: what if full o4 never gets released?
_cloudost:
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ant-sad-stick-disappear-leaving-gif-3212333050776233083
hey1_1hey: Thought so, the exit is up the stairs and on the left
hikukomoru: Yeah
I hate AI actually
You got me
hey1_1hey: What? Dont like AI progress now?
popsiclejohnithan: I think mid May at earliest.
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wellmeaningalien: not that ai is necessarily a tool but here it is
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: Tech
alejandrozarzuelo: Coaching is not new reçu
wellmeaningalien: ai is just the next learning tool
alejandrozarzuelo: But idk why that would be a problem? Human biology won't change
fuhulootogan: i mean tbf the gameboy is ancient
st.sioux: when mercedes creates some innovative tech for f1 the FIA bans it instantly
wellmeaningalien: game console vs plane
wellmeaningalien: thats quite a comparison huh
alejandrozarzuelo: And now they do it by nemorizibh from AI
st.sioux: it gives an unfair competitive advantage, as well as for the sake of preserving human elements and integrity, shadow coaching is already banned in a lot of sports leagues
wellmeaningalien: i mean most chess players learn by memorizing from the greats
fuhulootogan: so yeah
fuhulootogan: to put this into comparison the gameboy was created 30 years later in 1989
fuhulootogan: the blackbird aircraft was created in 1960 capable of going up to mach 3+ and it still stands today as one of the fastest aircrafts
alejandrozarzuelo: It won't matter much
alejandrozarzuelo: So, sure let AI coach l
alejandrozarzuelo: We will never achieve greatness on our own
alejandrozarzuelo: The limit is human weakness
wellmeaningalien: plus does knowledge really belong to ai or does it belong to information itself
fuhulootogan: i think it's pretty obvious technological advancement isn't linear
wellmeaningalien: i think anything that happens outside of a chess game is fair game
wellmeaningalien: tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: The human body ns brain are as limited as they used to be, better coaching only marginally improves human performance since the limiting factor is not knowledge, but biological reality
Now chess players and go players coach with AI, but they are only a bit better than before, their brains did not expand
wellmeaningalien: cuz, THEY WILL
alejandrozarzuelo: Why would they
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
alejandrozarzuelo: ????
fuhulootogan: me neither tbh
st.sioux: idk if theyre doing it already if im being honest
st.sioux: i guess, like f1 cars have like a shitload of metrics and data being sent all the time
fuhulootogan: augmentation?
st.sioux: idk about athletes its too early for that but an ai could already assist coaches pretty heavily specially in sports like f1 or football
a1c4p0ne: It would be boring to watch
fuhulootogan: It wouldn't make sense for ai to take over that
fuhulootogan: What about athletes?
st.sioux: like next year or so
st.sioux: they will probably ban ai coaches in the near future
a1c4p0ne: And sport coaches
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literallyvarane: I think it can by nature of doing background paintings?
spicy.lemonade: you have knowledge of all of chess
metaldragon01: Doubt
cmtclx: actually go ahead and try asking it to perform it
spicy.lemonade: most humans wont even get 1 question correct
cmtclx: you could try..
ailoveyoom: Like, maybe one subject is cartoon and the others are photorealistic or something.
fractalcomputer: .
ailoveyoom: This actually reminds me, I wonder if 4o image can do two distinct artyles in one image.
fractalcomputer: Why do you think it is not a fallacy?
cmtclx: theres also implicit malice like was it necessary even
too bad we cant stop raiding eachother as if we were stuck in the bronze age or rather the stone age just raiding eachother over meaningless trivial feuds based on ideas because humans are just control freaks
metaldragon01: Can you reason?
Can you get 100%?
st.sioux: No
hikukomoru: So? it's only a fallacy if the person's authority is not relevant to the argument.
spicy.lemonade: huh? why cant you get a 100% score on the math olympiad
fractalcomputer: The person who happens to provide the most sensible argument.
.histic: cartoonish realism.
like a cat bogging it down like a human would.
literallyvarane: If these models are ultimately aimed at being world/physics simulators for robotics training, there’s not actually much incentive to be good at unrealistic stuff.
spicy.lemonade: who do you trust more some guy on discord or 3 of the greatest minds in history
ailoveyoom: Did you want it in cartoon or something? Or did you want a realistic cat to do cartoonish movements (as a sort of like, Veo 2 video understanding test) ?
fractalcomputer: Yes, there is, since you do not actually provide an argument by which you'd refute the claims of the opposing party.
literallyvarane: Honestly I think this is intentional, and is probably the goal from their perspective
spicy.lemonade: nothing wrong with this
spicy.lemonade: veo2 needs the 4o native image touch
fractalcomputer: You are simply appealing to authority.
.histic: focuses on realism too much
cmtclx: ty <3
.histic: yeah, Veo 2 is garbage at this 💀
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: including the creator of modern AI himself
spicy.lemonade: each who agree than llms will get us to agi
spicy.lemonade: bro knows more than 3 nobel prize winners
hikukomoru: cute pfp btw 👍
st.sioux: they were just incompetent
st.sioux: they were using an outdated version of php, they never bothered to patch it
hikukomoru: Hey oomfie
cmtclx: so much this lol just conspiracy crazies and/or nazis and bots saying the same stuff as the former plus porn accounts
spicy.lemonade: when they coudlnt do algebra last year
spicy.lemonade: then why are models able to score high on mathematical olympiads?
hikukomoru: waow
Deepmind should hire you since you know so much more than them
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_3sphere: Komoru goon cave exceeding the age of the Lascaux cave paintings after life extension
hikukomoru: Nothing changes
hikukomoru: I'll be gooning like always either way
st.sioux: yessir
hey1_1hey: We gotta get AI to solve physics then <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
st.sioux: transistors cant get much smaller without running into quantum tunneling
hey1_1hey: I mean physical limits? Physicial limits to what? The GPU size, the way we make them, the transistor size? I remmeber reading a story about an AI that desgined a new chip for itself that was so crazy and nonsensical that no human would've thought about it because it goes against all desgine principlies but it was on par or even better than some human made chip desgines.
I'd have to double check the validity to that though
st.sioux: which is what we saw with 4000 series -> 5000 series
st.sioux: or at least performance increases will slow down drastically with each new generation
st.sioux: we're hitting the physical limits of gpu design so future bottlenecks may start coming from software rather than hardware very soon
hey1_1hey: I wonder what I will be doing when I am 20 (2 years from now~)
hey1_1hey: 2027? Wait until 2028
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
zonchao: 2026??? imagine 2027
hey1_1hey: If you think this is crazy wait until this next year
hey1_1hey: Really should of. I usually tend to downplay new hardware in my head because I mostly thinks its just algorithms but hardware (TPUs and GPUs) obv play a role in AI
metaldragon01: But yes things are really rolling now
metaldragon01: The chip improvement should have really caught your eye
hey1_1hey: O3 full and o4 mini coming out this week
hey1_1hey: The acceleartion recently has been crazy, 3 new OAI models, gemini 2.5, RSI glimsies
metaldragon01: All the labs have something similar
metaldragon01: Yes google has a crazy feedback loop atm
hey1_1hey: https://fxtwitter.com/slow_developer/status/1911907316099916038 RSI?
wellmeaningalien:
gamerbath: scroll a bit up
gamerbath: hell yeah
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 summer
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: <:facewithrollingeyes:1201354325511901296>
wellmeaningalien: send me her @ ur just missing out on the opportunity to play with a hot chick
darkstar0818: we dont need agi for this. Half of the real humans are just glorified chat bots anyway.
sieventer: ¡Hola, hoja!
otub: hi siev
st.sioux: agi just to troll scammers
darkstar0818: with a good UI where you can just sick the AI on any scammer for any media.
darkstar0818: We need a AI fine tunned on trolling scammers.
sieventer: Side mission
darkstar0818: bro accepted the challange
sieventer: Awesome.
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wolf3404: When I build my company headquarters i will order it from them
precariousworlds.: This can actually be a positive in some situations
Africa in colonial times was way more politically and economically stable than in the present (not to gloss over the crimes of this period as well)
precariousworlds.: Something I can see potentially happening in a US-China Cold War during the Singularity is a massive return to imperialism among these two powers, carving up mainly Africa and south Asia for resources to fuel the next era of civilisation
sarik0497: ^ It'll indeed cause problems for a lot of people somewhere in the world. Keep in mind that the rich don't really give away stuff "just because". It'll take, blood, sweat, and tears for many.
precariousworlds.: in a post-scarcity world
precariousworlds.: These can be built easily
precariousworlds.: Primary reason for this is political instability and lack of institutions
memlaswaif: Most people r parroting it because it's the popular opinion
ailoveyoom: Will post-scarcity close that gap? Make it bigger?
ailoveyoom: Okay but some people still die of starvation 😔
precariousworlds.: I find this to be an indicator of modern pessimism that the automatic response by most people to innovation is "but the rich will only get it". Basic economic history debunks this
wolf3404: I love it
precariousworlds.: this company is so sick
The architecture of the future will be a beautiful marriage of past and present
Imagine Brutalism combined with Roman classicism, with sleek glass
sarik0497: To be fair, it likely stems from people not believing that a post-scarcity society is possible with our current system, to which I kind of understand.
In their eyes, AI will likely only be used to give the wealthiest of the world even more power and control and cause job-loss and a poorer QoL for the average Joe.
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217
wolf3404: be right back placing an order for giant futuristic space cathedral
ailoveyoom: Calmest AI bro 😭
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/daddy-chill-stop-gif-15416847
_cloudost: we should enslave them
_cloudost: " I would rather be a slave than AI taking over my job" -Antis
_cloudost: they also say God isnt real, the concept of soul is silly and not based on reality but when it comes to AI, SUDDENLY THEY SAY AI IS SOULLESS
manmarshall_92172: When has hypocrisy ever been a problem for politicians?
_cloudost: The same people that complain about AI also complain how capitalism is slavery where you have to spend half of your life working like a slave
_cloudost: then maybe Gemini 2.5
spicy.lemonade: It’s much more complicated
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Not at all
spicy.lemonade: No
manmarshall_92172: Could AGI being achieved disrupt AI progress rather than promote it? Look at the art bros crying about their skills becoming obsolete. Soon, quant bros, code bros, voice actor bros, and a variety of other people will start crying, too. It will become a political issue, and regulations will drop in. Politicians will argue that banning AI could save jobs and stabilize the economy.
_cloudost: Gemini 2 can easily do this
spicy.lemonade: It’s a steam game
spicy.lemonade: arc agi but 3d
spicy.lemonade: lol this could become a new agi benchmark holdup
https://fxtwitter.com/walaber/status/1905992141194879192?s=46
_cloudost: we need to arrest antis ASAP
_cloudost: Why does openAI seem submissive, did they really remove the ghibili style from their NIG?
precariousworlds.: like the ones in china who are already chess grandmasters
ailoveyoom: Have you seen some 6 year olds tho
memlaswaif: when I was 6 I used to bully my disabled baby cousin
precariousworlds.: but less so than ants
precariousworlds.: 6 year olds are retarded
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perish0801: I’ve figured it out
himekokatagiri: What's up
spicy.lemonade: Hey
himekokatagiri: <@471334973379706900> hello lemons
xskydragon0: pplx for me it's closer to GPT than Manus. But I don't have access to Manus to confirm it <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
perish0801: Not ours
perish0801: Isnt it doing stuff on its own computer
perish0801: I looked up manus
perish0801: I see
zonchao: isnt manus just another pplx 🤔
xskydragon0: You can create a bot on Python that's make a call on OpenAI API. The bot can analyze the site and post something you want to.
But if you want a AI control your computer, maybe only with Manus.
xskydragon0: I'm on Manus's waitlist <:catcry:1187466366006087862>
perish0801: I see
xskydragon0: Maybe you need a API of OpenAI, that's works for you too.
trojan09205: My brother was raving about Manus this weekend
perish0801: Oh I’ll look it up
trojan09205: Look into Manus AI
It doesnt control your machine, but it can spin up virtual machines of different flavors
perish0801: Like operator of OpenAI
perish0801: But there’s no software that just lets an AI just take control of the PC and navigate on its own
trojan09205: Making a single post is different than setting up a stateful chatbot
perish0801: I see
trojan09205: I mean not necessarily. You could set it up to let an LLM do the posting for you and it can think in real time
Just add the API backend for the llm as the content generator
perish0801: No I want like an LLM to talk and act like a human
perish0801: Oh that’s like plan ahead comments and posts?
perish0801: I’m sure we have the tech
trojan09205: You would need to first get API/developer access to the specific site. Then you can set up a timed query/post request via maybe a CRON or Airflow job
perish0801: If we don’t have that tech someone should make it
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/harvey-dent-die-a-hero-or-live-long-enough-to-see-yourself-become-the-villian-gif-21468252
perish0801: Just post stuff
perish0801: On different sites
perish0801: On the internet
perish0801: Comment on stuff
xskydragon0: I'm hope you can change somethings to humanity in future, I'm trying to study a lot of AI. But has so many things to learn...
perish0801: Like if I want it to open Twitter on my browser and Ragebait people?
trojan09205: What sort of actions
spicy.lemonade: Depends on what you want to
Do. For General use case We don't have that technology yet
perish0801: Great advice
trojan09205: Program it
perish0801: How do I do that
perish0801: Like let a bot do stuff with my pc while I’m away
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zoermena: FOOM is imminent
zoermena: And next year that happens they'll be insanely cheap because feel the AGI
futurist_wizard: 5 is plausible
zoermena: It's good enough for me to buy it I think
xskydragon0: C'mon <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
xskydragon0: So we are safe for now?
zoermena: tomorrow
zonchao: https://x.com/DrJimFan/status/1914681494385360959?
.histic: bruh, o3 thought for 8-mins and just said
.histic: interesting
.histic:
.histic: no one?
realelonmuskx: no one does
realelonmuskx: it doesnt
.histic: i'm going to see if o3 gets it
realelonmuskx: yes if u want to check answers, site is ass
.histic: do you've to log in?
xskydragon0: Hello Guys! Just for a slightly check, are we too far away from AGI or in five years we will achieve it? I'm a little disturbed right now. I'm read a lot of articles, and I' don't know anymore.
realelonmuskx: nah the page just checks if its correct or no
realelonmuskx: my $20 sub finna cost them $20,000 lmao
.histic: how can you verify
.histic: don't you need to know the answer though?
himekokatagiri: 8m wasted
himekokatagiri: lol
realelonmuskx: o4 mini high
himekokatagiri: like only an intellectual can solve them
himekokatagiri: the latest benchmarks are incomprehensible
realelonmuskx: basically the top project euler problems by difficulty
realelonmuskx: i dont really know, it just says incorrect. when it says correct its joever. agi achieved
.histic: o3 using tools might be very close
himekokatagiri: I hope we get something this week
.histic: of course ai fails at this
.histic: oh, it involves lot of computation.
himekokatagiri: beats meeee.
.histic: what's the answer
realelonmuskx: the day ai solves this its over
trojan09205: thanks homie gonna look into it
.histic: try Old.
it's a horror thriller that is interesting.
st.sioux: 😦
trojan09205: gonna check it out
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hey1_1hey: Are you a cuck?
hikukomoru: It's the age of short kings 👑
maintcrew: maybe a sign u live in a bubble
technocake.: we are speciating
zoermena: Yeah I think I have strong eboy potential
hey1_1hey: You'd think femboy was the new normal with the amount I see
hey1_1hey: Tell that to people I know
mihrcelium: Chalamet has made twink energy popular, for sure.
maintcrew: i think its crazy how consistent 4o is with it and its internal world model
futurist_wizard: Wouldn't say femboys lol
hey1_1hey: Not a joke either
technocake.: except when you're a pussy but the hardmen start on you because you're tall
zoermena: I meant to say manlet I edited it.
hey1_1hey: I only get laid if I dress as a femboy
hey1_1hey: Can confirm
futurist_wizard: On tik tok and insta
hikukomoru: Femboys and twinks are popular with young women
hey1_1hey: I dont want to be manley apart from when i want to feel manley
futurist_wizard: Go look at all the eboys
futurist_wizard: The twinkish aesthetic would be most desired today by girls, especially if they are under 30
zoermena: I don’t want to be a twink full but I don’t want to be to big either, I don’t want to be a Manlet
wellmeaningalien: 💀 💀 💀 they could not tell its AI
hikukomoru: Twinks r hot
hey1_1hey: Komoru I am arresting you on the suspicion of tampering with goods and services
hikukomoru: It's me, I'm woke mind virus
maintcrew: TRUE AND REAL
alejandrozarzuelo: dude lmao thats so not ttrue
hey1_1hey: ITS THE WOKE MIND VIRUS
maintcrew: its not the government is komoru lol wake up
zoermena: Im bi and you are wrong I think
futurist_wizard: That's not true lol
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> are you straight
hey1_1hey: Usually when I am high I tend to convince myself that the goverment has spiked my weed with fent
zoermena: I got sick last week and it fucked me up
zoermena: I will to get back to the routine today I woke up earlier but at the same time I also want to be like a femboy
hey1_1hey: Or how femenine I am feeling
hey1_1hey: Thats a big fucking mushroom
hikukomoru: He wants to be a twink bro leave him be
alejandrozarzuelo: your height depends on how high you are
maintcrew: <@430269783112548362> defend urself ailoveyoom
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gamerbath: idk, it says 79 for 3.7 sonnet but i'm always getting ~40
spicy.lemonade: Of “why is he like this”
wellmeaningalien: hard
spicy.lemonade: There’s been a lot of captions
spicy.lemonade: No the image
777agical:
wellmeaningalien: oh
drewsni: im actually calling bs on that lol
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: O3 LEVEL PERFORMANCE AND SO CHEAP AND FAST
drewsni: it took longer to complete the 2.5 pro deepguessr runs than it did any other model, not including the rate limit
gamerbath: holy moly. If I knew it was that fast I would be using it already
drewsni: nah i straight up dont believe that
wellmeaningalien: WTF IS GOOGLE COOKING
wellmeaningalien: THE BEST MODEL ON ARTIFICIAL ANALYSIS & LIVEBENCH AND ONLY SECOND BEHIND GEMINI 2.0 FLASH IN SPEED
wellmeaningalien: GEMINI 2.5 PRO OUTPUT SPEED
hikukomoru: who
ailoveyoom: I guess this is OAI's Veo vs Sora moment lol
drewsni: like i kinda feel bad for them now
drewsni: all the online google employees are so mad
.histic:
st.sioux: who
spicy.lemonade: Why is he like this
wellmeaningalien: it never gets old
wellmeaningalien: OK FUCK IT 4 MORE ONES
archon.e: Im tired of cooking meals
archon.e: When are we going to get replicators?
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
gamerbath: 4o continues to amaze me
wellmeaningalien: i swear to god this the last image i post
archon.e: Only thing that is going to matter from now on is agency. The ability to just get shit done
wellmeaningalien: ok this is kinda cute wtf
archon.e: I have been having an existential crisis for the past month thinking about all this
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
archon.e: Robots can’t get here soon enough
archon.e: Wish it could also do the decor for me
archon.e: I am going to make it do my house from my plan and do interior
spicy.lemonade: Location
spicy.lemonade: Kitchen
spicy.lemonade: It got everything
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spicy.lemonade: eh doesnt really count
callmepyro: Introduced in 2019 I believe?
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: after creation
callmepyro: Other than ARC-AGI 🙂
spicy.lemonade: all benchmarks get saturated between 2 years
spicy.lemonade: law of benchmarks
spicy.lemonade: yes
callmepyro: Ah, he's guessing. Still, interesting that he thinks they could push it that far off of just quintupling the compute used for the 85% in ARC-AGI-1
spicy.lemonade: Francis: "And we haven't been able to test o3 on high-compute settings. At all.", "I can make a guess. I guess based on what we saw on o3-low & other models. I think you might get up to like 15 maybe even 20% if you were maxing out the compute setting and spending like 10K per task for instance".
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/M3b59lZYBW8?si=kNHtcqPY9ZjdY9_L&t=2063
spicy.lemonade: forgot ehre he said let me check
spicy.lemonade: francois
callmepyro: Oh? Source? It's not in their blog post
spicy.lemonade: on arc 2
spicy.lemonade: o3 gets around 20%
spicy.lemonade: yeah
callmepyro: Meant ARC-AGI-2. Edited.
metaldragon01: New deepseek beating grok in arc agi and close to sonnet
metaldragon01: https://x.com/teortaxesTex/status/1904399112067227703
callmepyro: Don't LLMs also grow up seeing patterns? Wondering on your thoughts here about how to consider a model that can *only* learn statistical correlations in data as 'seeing patterns' or not
spicy.lemonade: and the rest fall
spicy.lemonade: like remove a color block
spicy.lemonade: yeah like one of the arc2 problems is gravity based
spicy.lemonade: expensive asf tho
professorheaven: Well growing up humans see patterns all the time, you see it in stores, restaurants, museums, school literally everywhere and years and years of all those interactions have trained us for ARC-AGI. LLMs don’t have that same luxury so naturally it’ll be a lot harder
spicy.lemonade: 15-20
spicy.lemonade: o3 full gets around 20%
callmepyro: So that makes this pretty interesting that a random guy off the street can absolutely dominate o3 in ARC-AGI-2 with a 30% socre
callmepyro: And o3 gets 87.7% if I remember correctly
professorheaven: Last time I checked the average person doesn’t have a PhD
professorheaven: 0
callmepyro: What score would the average person get on GPQA?
spicy.lemonade: and even they got 60%
spicy.lemonade: iirc
spicy.lemonade: also the test takers were taken from top unis
spicy.lemonade: and i think the average person encountered on street would get like 30%
spicy.lemonade: arc2 is considerably harder
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: it's a small update compared to what's coming
metaldragon01: From a price perspective
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spicy.lemonade: he said feel the agi
spicy.lemonade: or do olympiad maths
spicy.lemonade: the average human doesnt code
spicy.lemonade: coding and math benchmarks have nothing to do with feeling the agi
spicy.lemonade: what?
ai9708: oh, that invalidates all the benchmarks im sure
spicy.lemonade: so im confused on your statement
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.5 was the onlyAi to pass an official turing test
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-turing-test-has-a-problem-and-openais-gpt-4-5-just-exposed-it/
ai9708: of that copium
spicy.lemonade: ?
ai9708: about to overdose soon
ai9708: brother you got to lower the dosis a bit
spicy.lemonade: and demis doesnt need to hype because his parent company doesnt sink or float based on sucess of his ai
spicy.lemonade: he didnt lie tho
ai9708: demis hassabis does not feel the need to lie though
st.sioux: has to hype
st.sioux: guy is a billionaire ceo
seventales: everyone has a different agi definition
spicy.lemonade: and others didnt
spicy.lemonade: passecd turing test
spicy.lemonade: a paper officialy proved gpt 4.5
spicy.lemonade: technically he wasnt wrong lol
spicy.lemonade: i mean
spicy.lemonade: ?
ai9708: after that "agi felt internally with gpt4.5" stunt
ai9708: i dont trust anything sam says anymore
spicy.lemonade: nah
spicy.lemonade: this could double its frontier math score
spicy.lemonade: built in
spicy.lemonade: like lean
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 needs to have an internal proof verifier
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: was looking at math benchmarks
trey6033: Google's cloud conference is on Tuesday, and they've been hyping up info on that
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: their 32 b model is above o1 pro
spicy.lemonade: they do
spicy.lemonade: qwen has good chance at sota
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hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦 🫦
Dream of me
wellmeaningalien: what did blud mean by dat
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721822381727023247/1338575135300653128/ezgif-3-3157e9a8bd.gif
oooooooooog: gn st dltbbb
wellmeaningalien: im gonna sleep gn everyone
wellmeaningalien: ok komoru
hikukomoru: I’ve seen much hotter dog girls
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-sigma-muscle-fire-smoking-gif-13767787376988329360
oooooooooog: obviously since asi is 2025
wellmeaningalien: nah i think given enough time humans could or couldnt solve aging, i can't know myself, but it surely proves quite difficult for us. i think its more realistic that ASI does it before we ever get to
.wolfnacht: meanwhile every new lofi and ambient music cover on youtube is AI made landscape. and they look much better
hikukomoru: “Appeal to-“ Shut the fuck up oog
3ds0662: that as soon as i get into cursor coding they downgrade, cheapskate and truncate everything as the mass of their users increased during the vibecoding movement
oooooooooog: no i dont
3ds0662: you know what does make me mad
otub: is
otub: creator of gravity falls alex hirsch
oooooooooog: thats probably because you don't look very hard
.histic: 🤮
spicy.lemonade: Only the shit ones
spicy.lemonade: I haven't seen an actual good artist mad at AI
.wolfnacht: Yikes!
spicy.lemonade: Come to think of it
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: The one you posted is ai slop
spicy.lemonade: Trust
spicy.lemonade: This is better bro
3ds0662: 100,000 geniuses in a datacenter at scale can
.wolfnacht: i wish anti-aging comes soon, bcz then people would get the right to die, based on their will. Euthanasia is there but there's alot of paper work involved
.histic: what's the origins of that pfp?
oooooooooog: that's the same as saying "neurons arent smart enough to solve aging on their own"
oooooooooog: obviously, but that's only because ASI is so soon
3ds0662: or 2035
3ds0662: maybe young people born 2030
.wolfnacht: and dat furry shit "authentic art"
3ds0662: i dont think even young people today will reap the effects of anti aging research until singularity has been achieved or asi
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: imagine calling this "AI SLOP"
wellmeaningalien: ok i can sort of get behind that now
memlaswaif: poog u r falling for bait
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hikukomoru: What about robo romance
himekokatagiri: marriage is a scam
hey1_1hey: Thats- thats even worse no?
himekokatagiri: yeah but would you marry someone
himekokatagiri: hmmm
hey1_1hey: I did and then all of a sudden 2 of the most beautiful people I have ever seen in my entire life come out of the wood works.
hikukomoru:
destrucules: Aro ace is valid
mantegh5061: so
mantegh5061: no no , they deleted their account but i dreamt about them
himekokatagiri: nah I never got into it
futurist_wizard: At 20 lmao
himekokatagiri: romance is DEAD
futurist_wizard: We all are here technically
himekokatagiri: I give up on romance
hey1_1hey: Or bodering on stalking
futurist_wizard: That's some dedication
hikukomoru: That's me
I'm schizo
hey1_1hey: Schzio alert?
hey1_1hey: Wasn't gay enough because I didn't know about it
mantegh5061: I tried to find someones for like 5 hours
mantegh5061: I don't think reverse image is that good though
hikukomoru: Turing was gay
And he did things, and stuff
or something
hey1_1hey: What, why
destrucules: In every one of those papers, LLMs are shown to spontaneously pursue goals by planning ahead and strategizing about their environment, and the models successfully carry out these plans. In about half of those papers, the model is given an explicit goal, and the agency pertains to that goal. In the other half, the models exhibit emergent goals not explicitly given to them by anyone. The longest time horizons are from the Sleeper Agents paper, which shows models making decisions in the present for goal states that won't be achieved for several billion tokens in the future.
mantegh5061: fair
hey1_1hey: You got me
futurist_wizard: There are schizos in here
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/table-hit-yakuza-hitting-table-walk-out-gif-15307369
zoermena: I’ve seen how AI explained already made comments on models being good enough to do strategic planning. We can also hook them up with external tools to use it in long term agentic frameworks. I don’t think that we necessarily have to wait for the official release.
futurist_wizard: You shouldn't send people's photos in here
hikukomoru: Those are the only papers I might be able to read if they were real
ailoveyoom: Create the Official r/singularity Discord server
st.sioux: are you sure? have you read gay awesomeness paper? or the gay reductiveness paper? or the gay studies paper?
hey1_1hey: No its not, name one good thing a gay person has done <:Alan:1136264610161365003>
hikukomoru: And that's okay
Gay is awesome 👍
himekokatagiri: shit
himekokatagiri: many such cases
himekokatagiri: be gay do singularity
hey1_1hey: Can confirm
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ldj: I see, I'll watch the full thing <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
i'm only at the 15 min mark rn
drewsni: which is fine, its just im disappointed is all
drewsni: I just think that like 6 months ago bryan had the opportunity to pivot to more science, and instead he doubled down on whoop/bioclocks
drewsni: That was his argument for sure. But derek countered with saying that bryan is trying to somewhat advertise blueprint as a way to measure and improve actual health markers, and that bio clock isnt a health market in anyway, just a competition like you said.
ldj: and I have a hard time seeing people becoming competitive as much about particular blood work results, it's a much more multi-faceted and cumbersome thing to compete with eachother against, (even though it migth be objectively a better measure of health).
ldj: I haven't watched the interview yet, but I think a good counter-argument which Bryan maybe used is that the mimetics of having the bio clock become a popularized thing is arguably something that is much easier for people to latch on to and serve as a gateway for people to get pulled into the movement, and is more likely to form a cultural competitive dynamic of bioclocks against eachother. As opposed to people being convinced by something more complex like blood results.
drewsni: And also im not a fan of the "large study" he ran last year with the hundreds of blueprint subs
drewsni: Studies both with bryan himself with multiple instances of changing medications or protocols during the side effect period. Derek also was on the opinion that bryan should drop the bio clock altogether, which i agree with, and instead push blueprint members to opt strictly for blood tests instead.
ldj: Was derek talking about studies as-in, with multiple people? or did he just mean like creating better written case-studies of his bryans self-experiments.
drewsni: oh, it was the conclusion, derek pressed him on why he didnt do more with studies and why he was so focused on the bio clock which is not a great indicator, and more just like a whoop category imo.
metaldragon01: I think it takes untill next year to sat tbh. Hope im wrong though
ldj: <:lookup:1127463050874728538>
drewsni: i do appreciate him championing health + ai tho
drewsni: Yeah, and i fully get that im being comparatively harsher on him than i would most people, but i do expect him to go that extra mile if he can
ldj: I think it would be best to change certain things in the protocol, but they're keeping it within certain cost constraints as well as vegan constraints, so I guess I don't blame em. Still probably the single best overall mix you can get online though.
drewsni: im still gonna buy his multivitamins tho
drewsni: i just wish he'd dedicate more to doing actual science is all since he has the means to do it
ldj: was it a particular part of the episode, or just the conclusion you ended up on after finishing it.
drewsni: i dont like hate the guy
ldj: ah ok fair
drewsni: what got me to change my mind was the 4 hour more plates more dates podcast
ldj: https://youtu.be/OqlPU1CKEpI?si=v0NZ14qSRhbZmHA-
ldj: he's had interviews that go on for 4 hours and beyond, but here is one on the shorter end that seems like it covers the general points well:
ldj: unfortunately if you already dislike the guy, then it'll be kinda hard to convince yourself to sit down and watch some long form content of him talking, so maybe my comment is fruitless <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: I'd recommend watching some of the long form content he's been involved with if you haven't yet. I'd say he's actually not even very quirky or weird at all, and very level headed and thoughtful about things. The short form surface level content ends up giving a very different vibe though.
realelonmuskx: nvidia stock plumetting
realelonmuskx: gemini tpus also getting cooked
realelonmuskx: ill make a script so sora is always 2/2 generating Ghibli twink drawings
.histic: also, if you get the pro subscription, just keep spam outputting o1-pro.
OpenAI will become bankrupt in a day. 😇
.histic: if you have a subscription, go to sora.com and use the image generator there, which is powered by 4o.
you can get two outputs instead of one and queue another two to generate simultaneously, making four outputs at the same time. and using sora.com has basically no rate limits.
realelonmuskx: how can we spam cook open ai gpus
destrucules: Or whatever saturation is
destrucules: Almost certainly 100% by December unless we slow down
destrucules: So I'd say at this rate we'll hit 30% sota zero shot score in July, 50% in late August, and saturation a few months later
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
destrucules: So 4.5 and below is all noise
destrucules: Note that the noise floor is like 6%
.histic: fuck, i wish i could use o1-pro
drewsni: I think a lot of what he’s doing is a pr pivot. But he’s one cave diving pedo calling incident away from being on the same trajectory as Elon was on 2018
a1c4p0ne:
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hey1_1hey: NOVEL IDEAS
neon01197: "zooming in on figure 3" dey cookd
ailoveyoom: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
st.sioux: eeeek
hey1_1hey: THIS SHIT GOES CRAZY
.0xunkn0wn: omggggg
hey1_1hey: WOW
zoermena: No way?
hey1_1hey: Thats some imagees
spicy.lemonade: IM NUTING
hikukomoru: Greg said "AGI is here"
hey1_1hey: I need more infomation in my ears
hey1_1hey: These guys need to talk faster
hey1_1hey: Lets run it
spicy.lemonade: YOOOO
ailoveyoom: What did they say before I came?
futurist_wizard: It still can't suck me, it's worthless
spicy.lemonade: HES TALKING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED
hey1_1hey: Give me benchamrks I beg
zoermena: Does this warrant a jizz
spicy.lemonade: THATS THE PAPER I POSTED ON REDDIT
drewsni: this is actually hype lol
a1c4p0ne: Image is solved
spicy.lemonade: dude
zoermena: <a:dance_123:1315547409442537555>
hey1_1hey: Boutta bust
hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOOO
spicy.lemonade: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
callmepyro: Guesses at stats? I think 85% on SWE Bench
spicy.lemonade: THINKING WITH IMAGE
.0xunkn0wn: OMG
.0xunkn0wn: yooooo
hey1_1hey: Thats big
hikukomoru: GET ON THE STREAM NOW
drewsni: ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT DEEPGUESSR???????????
st.sioux: i just lost my job
futurist_wizard: Nothing has happened yet
drewsni: DEEPGUESSR MENTION?????????????
ailoveyoom: Didn't it just start 😭
hey1_1hey: Its been real
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