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xQc: You’re assuming it that if I, this is literally assuming, that if i watch a video, right, of some guy who has a 100 viewer viewers, everybody makes a video, right, let's say we come in there with 50.000 live viewers right, that every 50.000 were already subscribed, they were already gonna watch the video, they were going to watch a video but now they will not watch it because they watch it here, instead. What? If i watch a video of a guy who gets a hundred views, every video has 10 subscribers, its fucked, impossible, that all of you, all of you now are subscribed, and we’re gonna watch this. What is wrong with you? |
'''DarkViper: '''It is crazy how detailed I was, I even drew diagrams, and people still didn’t get it. |
'''DarkViper: '''Ok, maybe it is understandable that xQc didn't understand it. |
'''DarkViper: '''If reactors didn't have react content, they would be live less, and they’d have to rely on their own skills to create content which means they would have none. When your content is lower quality or nonexistent, your viewers would have to seek out other forms of content and support it. When you react to videos, you are actively working to keep people with you, and away from everyone else. You are cannibalizing the market as a whole, not simply the person you’re reacting to, although you are also cannibalizing them as well your gain in someone’s loss in this finite market viewers in time. Are not infinite what they spend on you, comes with the opportunity cost that they don't spend it somewhere else, this is actually true with all content that is made but in your case you’re not making content, you’re stealing it. You do not deserve what you gain from reaction content, you do not deserve what you steal from other people using it. |
xQc: I give a fuck, i dont even know if the video is good enough to watch something, is just watching. If we react, roll up, we wake up. I don't have a bar that says “we have to react this amount”, otherwise i fail. I dont give a fuck, guys, this is why i do like when i watch a video, chat. I use for myself dude, react to react react and then i just need to react harder, harder, the fuck, then i go holy shit, harder, holy shit, and then you gotta scale it up, dude. |
'''DarkViper: '''It is at this point that xQC thinks he finds me, in his chat. |
xQc: This is not the same guy, man. Also, big point Chad, this is a big point. It's a big point okay, if you watch the video once, right, and it was bad for the channel, and you watched more of their content, right, they can absolutely 100% say, yo, dude, don't do this. And people would stop immediately because we’ve had, i've had problems with people from youtube, two of them. Said it. Hey man, that they didn't like it. I didn't argue, I didn't say yo, dude, because you’re stuck. I didn't bring up stats, I just stopped watching it then. All together i just started it, why? Because I don't get that much. I think it's mutually good if they know, or they think it's not, then, they are right. Why? Because it's their content, and a story I have no say dude. |
If there's a problem I'll make you do it, because I enjoy it guys. I have a problem with Kurzgesagt, okay, these guys didn't like me reposting their video, okay, because my edit, my guys, i don't return. My editors, if i never do whatever they want, okay, youtube, and they would upload the reaction to youtube, and i didnt even know. But even if i knew i probably would have stopped them because I didn't give a shit, i thought they were uploading, and then Kurzge said they didn't like that for whatever reason, and i didnt fight them, on it nobody. I just stopped before im playing that. |
'''DarkViper: '''This does nothing to compensate them or everyone in the market that your actions impacted. You lose nothing, you give up none of the exposure or money that you gained. You are a thief who has robbed someone being caught in the act, and said i won't do it again to you, and then you've gone next door to rob the neighbors until they catch you, and tell you to stop. Where you do the whole same process again, you’re not acting benevolently, you're not acting with a care for others, you're just concerned that they're going to give you a copyright strike or cause some fuss that might hurt your brand that you can see yourself to have the rights to videos that require 1200 hours of labor to make, is bad that you feel you have the option to fight them for them and acted magnanimously by not doing so, it's just sick. |
xQc: Guys, remember when “AW” made the video of the nose, right, and that shit had like, fucking, dude I dont even think it was on youtube, but it was, like on the reddit, and it had like 20 views dude, okay, and the video was dog shit. Dude, and then the, and then the video blew up, and then the next video came across, and then i blew up, and he made the making of the video down, blew up. “Bing bang trickle down mother fuckers” nomiks whatever he said. What would it have got that react, not mixed, trick or trick or bound what, fuck is that. |
'''DarkViper: '''Yeh, you stayed in your position of being the largest content creator, and some small portion of your success temporarily trickled down to someone else. It isn’t that this doesn’t happen, it is that what trickles down is only a tiny fraction of what you keep and can grab for yourself than what trickles down using the limitless supply of high quality content. The workers will occasionally catch crumbs falling from your mouth, but you will only get larger as you take more and more of the market for yourself that these workers need to survive. HeyDoubleU would need weeks if not months to create an animation like that, the amount of effort is insane. You however can take the fruits of that effort to grow yourself in one fraction of the time and thus will always be bigger as a creator. Worse, you effectively have limitless HeyDoubleU’s all working hard making content that you can scoop up whenever you need a way to bring yourself more exposure and money either by giving yourself more youtube uploads, or to keep yourself live longer on Twitch. Everyone can’t do what you do because somebody has to do the work at the end of the day, you just don’t want it to be you. |
xQc: I cant judge you as a whole. I'm against lazy content for streaming, right, sitting down in front of the webcam and suddenly watching someone else’s work while they eat lunch? That is adding nothing. It's not transformative, in a way this is stealing. True, this is true-ish |
'''DarkViper: '''Moving onto XQC watching Charlie’s second video. |
xQc: Agreed, agreed. If you should watch the video, right guys, hey, according to his main argument, that you’re yoinking them , right, technically will know, people will know, know know know know, you know…? |
'''DarkViper: '''To translate, XQC is saying that Charlie has no reason to link my original script in the description of his video because I am arguing that would be like yoinking my document. Obviously my position is not that you can’t use, and or link to, other people’s content, merely that what you create should not be a replacement for the original. Value should be left, ideally, what you create should have no impact on the original at all as it is truly something distinct. You have created something yourself, rather than merely presenting another person’s work, which is what sitting and watching a YouTube video is. It is why I am usually fine with clips, as a clip of something can not replace the original work. I also make exceptions when you are involved in something. If another person has the right to use you in their work, then you should have some right to use that work yourself. Only fair. |
xQc: What? But thats boring as fuck though, thats manufactured garbage though, that dude, what? That, that's pre-watched, garbage, guys, that's like if I was american idol and i watched the whole thing, oh, wait.. That's what I actually do, okay. |
'''DarkViper: '''Man learns how literally all content that isn’t streamed live is made! You can record your first reaction to something, and then edit those reactions and the video itself to only include the stuff that is relevant or that matters. Or, if you actually had nothing to add, you just don’t release the video. People have been doing it forever on YouTube. In such a case, you will at least leave something because the entire original video won't be on your own. It is still certainly lazy content but you are less likely to be exploitative as you are using portions of someone’s work to create something distinct. |
xQc: I feel like it's better for live content you watch regardless, but if you make a video out of it, it's not great. And you dont add a lot to it, then sure, don't reupload the reaction, but that's what i already do to be honest, that's what we already do, the react is bad and if we're only watching it usually they don't upload it. I don't remember, my editors vendors do whatever they want, okay, youtube and they would upload the reaction to youtube and i didnt even know but even if i knew i probably would have stopped them because i didn't give a shit, the time they were uploading. This argument will never hold, okay the amount that you steal if you're smart is usually never even close to the amount that you create, so who cares. |
'''DarkViper: '''The idea that the litmus test for whether you can rip off the entirety of another persons potentially weeks if not months long labors is if you liked youw own reaction is fucking absurd. There has never been a reaction, in the history of reacting, that has come even close to requiring a fraction of the effort put into making the original video. The idea that the litmas test for whether you can rip off the entirety of another person’s potentially weeks, if not months long labours, is if you liked your own reaction, is fucking absurd.'''DarkViper: '''The amount of time it takes to make a youtube video is not the runtime of the video for fuck sakes. The problem with a lot of streamers is that they have never done the work of an editor, they have no idea the work that goes into it, thus they cant ever respect the creation. |
xQc: Why does it always use words like, from going in that would be going, what? There's also the other side of the coin, people will be going, people that wouldn't have gone, there's also the things that people that they were not gonna do that, but now they will, and that's usually much larger than people who did not, because. |
'''DarkViper: '''Because the amount of people who watch you, and the amount of new viewers you attract to yourself away from others, will always be larger than any amount of people that go to the creator you react to. All you are doing is drawing viewers to you and keeping them there as long as possible, which prevents them from watching others or having any need to ever watch anyone else. |
xQc: Oh my god, dude, you're really playing this argument though, wait, no, that because that literally, it proves my point. We need a debate night about a react debate. Night number one, react andy. Ive never lost a debate on stream ever because when i dont know i dont do, so therefore, i always win because i only go into winning battles, fuck yeah dude, yeah dude, fuck you. |
'''DarkViper: '''It would be a better world if each of us were perfectly cognisant of the exact extent of capabilities. It is like when we are kids and think we are the fucking best at a fighting game and then we moves outside our group of friends and think, oh I am actually not that great. It is possible to know so little, or be incapable of understanding enough, that you can not realize the level of your own capability relative to everyone else. |
xQc: The only reason why i have a really badly, sometimes, and I speak about things that I don't know is because misinformation, okay, is sensational and people love hearing misinformation. So therefore, i'm just buffing the views but I guess i'm just stacking impressions i say. Really bad alveolar stakes? Boom! stacks an viewers because they come in , then, theres some real takes which is as he reiterates, multiple times what the goal of the post or the video was so i did misunderstand it, i have never said anything dumb in the entirety of my life because im always joking, but its what people want guys, you cant fight the people i said, good content is something people want if suddenly lazy is what the people want, its lazy, but its good content by the definition.'''DarkViper: '''And people want cheap electronics, but that wouldn’t justify rounding up a bunch of people and putting them into slave labour camps in order to reduce your labour costs. People want cheap TVs, this doesn’t justify stealing TVs from your local store to avoid production costs. There are people out there who would pay to murder someone, and such services to exist in the world. The demand for something does not in of itself justify any and everything to meet that demand. What you do is exploitative, and thus shouldn’t be done, irrespective if there exists people who are fine with that exploitation. More important, as far as live streams go, people in general just want consistent content they can chill with. If you had to stream less, its not like people would just wander the desert wondering what it would be like to have some content again, they would just go watch other people doing stuff. Reaction content is not holding together the fabric of Twitch. |
xQc: I think we need to have it debate night episode one, react andy and just have a bunch of react lords and anti-react lords like middle ground and we go bing. It goes: “i think reacting is good, my channel has 20.000 views”, you know. |
'''DarkViper: '''So that ends that video. Thank you for reading. I end this with a question, do you not want more original innovative content? Do you really want all the successful creators to be people who watch other people’s videos? Stop watching reactors. I am not saying to watch me, but find an actual creator who peaks your interest. Unsubscribe and unfollow reactors, more importantly, click the not interested button when you see a reactor in your feed. The algorithm will learn, and suddenly a whole world of new and original content will be brought to you. The more original content you watch, the more original content creators can support themselves, the more the market will reward people who innovate and create, and the better your experience online will be. When you reward the lazy, don’t be surprised if one day all you see is laziness. |
Sources |
The Lies That Stole A Fortune - How The Reactor's Scam Workshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irk8h0ax5aYXQC reacting to first video by Charlie[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkMk6JfLPdc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkMk6JfLPdc]XQC reacting to second video by Charlie[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-HELnKU7dw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-HELnKU7dw]Stats for Twitch[https://sullygnome.com/viewers https://sullygnome.com/viewers]2Kilksphilip - Minecraft raytracing[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdxiotnawc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdxiotnawc]Summit1g Playing CSGO[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JxFp0hXVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JxFp0hXVM]How to Make a Kurzgesagt Video in 1200 Hours[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFk0mgljtns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFk0mgljtns] |
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