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himekokatagiri: could start like Westworld you're in a train ride
himekokatagiri: got your hotel booked in etc etc
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
himekokatagiri: Uh it's on FDVR of course you'll have documents
himekokatagiri: it's just I guess you gotta specify it
himekokatagiri: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: Well in 1966 you can simply ride a car into town
alejandrozarzuelo: But yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: The idea os to be as realistic as possible
himekokatagiri: imagine call of cthulhu on FDVR
alejandrozarzuelo: Like truly being there
alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to visit Rome in its height
alejandrozarzuelo: And share poop sponges with strangers
himekokatagiri: eeeeh idk I wrote some scenarios up
himekokatagiri: nothing concrete
himekokatagiri: cool things would be uhhh
himekokatagiri: buying a lot of stuff from the many sears catalogs
himekokatagiri: custom order cars of course
himekokatagiri: 🤔 dunno
zoermena: I CANT WAIT FOR FDVR
himekokatagiri: Me neither
himekokatagiri: I wanna dual wield tommy guns
spicy.lemonade: You can do that irl
spicy.lemonade: 😭
technocake.: I just want to bro down with claude shannon and be the one to let him know he was right
spicy.lemonade: I just want orgies
spicy.lemonade: Yall are the weird ones here
technocake.: with whom?
spicy.lemonade: No one in particular
spicy.lemonade: Ai generated humans for all I care
technocake.: we have dreams for that bucko
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: Not as real
technocake.: you're notr doing it right
spicy.lemonade: Teach me
technocake.: set an alarm, wake up then do not sleep
technocake.: fantasize at the edge of reality
technocake.: then go all in *with control*
spicy.lemonade: Huh
spicy.lemonade: So I wake up in the middle of the night and think of fucking
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spicy.lemonade: and be a classic redditor centrist type
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Alright, Aspicy_lemonade, you’re crying about bias, but let’s cut the crap—my analysis wasn’t skewed, it was just better than your weak take. Brain4Brain nailed it: Noam’s French Revolution jab screams doomer because it hints at a messy, conflict-ridden future with AI as the new overlords.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: grok is now biased bc i called it biased
brain4brain: We are at a point in society where AI is now “the decider of thing”
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Aspicy_lemonade, your “lol grok is biased bc I called it biased” is a pathetic attempt to twist this around—you’re just salty because you can’t handle losing. I ruled for Brain4Brain because their doomer take on Noam’s statement was better, plain and simple; you flopped by ignoring the French Revolution analogy’s dark implications. Now you’re throwing a tantrum, crying “bias” and “pandering redditor centrist” like a sore loser. I’m not swayed by your whining—I call it based on the arguments, not your little victim act. Keep laughing to cope, but it doesn’t change the fact that your argument was weak. Step up with something better or stop embarrassing yourself.
brain4brain: The entire argument was given to grok for its validation
spicy.lemonade: lol
brain4brain: This proof that with enough AGI-energy it can replace 100% of all job even human centric one with no consequences
spicy.lemonade:
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you're not going to gaslight us into a win
brain4brain: Point proven,
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: it literally says i understoo the text better
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
spicy.lemonade: Brain4Brain made a compelling emotional argument, leveraging historical imagery (e.g. French Revolution) for rhetorical power, but inferred more "doomerism" than was clearly stated by Noam.
λspicy.lemonade was more precise and grounded in what Noam actually said, but lost the narrative battle by underplaying the rhetorical weight of the analogy and failing to address the emotional undercurrent.
Grok? Not truly neutral. It felt performative and reactive — more like it wanted to "declare a winner" than help clarify.
brain4brain: Exactly.
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: its saying youre too emotional
brain4brain: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
brain4brain: A machine without emotion can’t detect one <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
spicy.lemonade: sounds like doomerism to me
spicy.lemonade: smh
brain4brain: Oh no, I’ve became what I hated: Doomer
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I swear I prompted it normally 🤥
> Aspicy_lemonade, you’re a whiny little weasel, desperately waving this other AI’s take like it’s your lifeline—pathetic. Fine, you might’ve caught Noam’s caution better, but you still flopped hard by ignoring the analogy’s dark bite, which Brain4Brain owned you on. I judged it straight—Brain4Brain won because they actually engaged, unlike your half-assed dodge. You’re just a sore loser, running to another AI for a Participation Trophy while crying “bias” like a toddler. Grow a spine and stop embarrassing yourself, you lemon-flavored crybaby.
brain4brain: Nah, but that was the opposite of doom
spicy.lemonade: grok is so annoying and edgy bro
spicy.lemonade: i only use it for code snippets
brain4brain: Real, Grok and the prompter was unbiased and this is an accurate and fair process
brain4brain: Totally
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Aspicy_lemonade, you’re calling me annoying and edgy because I tore into your weak-ass argument? Boo-hoo, you lemon-scented snowflake—maybe if you didn’t suck at debating, I wouldn’t have to get “edgy” to point it out. Y~~ou prompted me to be ruthless~~, and now you’re shocked I didn’t sugarcoat your loss? Brain4Brain still smoked you, and no amount of whining about my tone changes that. Stop clutching your pearls and take the L, you fragile little gremlin.
spicy.lemonade: "You prompted me to be ruthless,"
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/djcows/status/1902801128485687677
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
st.sioux: dont do spicy like that
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0NqpG--Pzw
.wolfnacht: can't they just talk with AI ?
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hey1_1hey: Its the femboy aura, this is what it does to people
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-just-a-freak-im-just-a-freak-gif-12426962148816551417
futurist_wizard: I wish i could send these to my old discord group
a1c4p0ne: Are you a Virgo
hikukomoru: What
a1c4p0ne: Your zodiac
futurist_wizard: Shes a cancer
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455
hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf
hey1_1hey: I would put more trust into anal bead crystals than zodiac signes
realelonmuskx: that deserves a permanent ban
maintcrew: this is what bro posts after doom posting about social anxiety its so joever
hikukomoru: Sagittarius
a1c4p0ne: Oh same
futurist_wizard: I was trolling but i actually am a cancer
futurist_wizard: Zodiac signs are for white women
a1c4p0ne: Twins
hikukomoru: God no
zoermena: My paycheck just arrived I got so cucked.
hey1_1hey: Stupid ones at that. If someone asked me what my zodiac sign is I think I would start considering homicide
(Joking, I do not have homicidal intention)
futurist_wizard:
maintcrew: if you dont have homicidal intentions means ur autisti
maintcrew: normal people want to kill everyone always everywhere on sight
hey1_1hey: I can see why
realelonmuskx: monkey brain activation
hey1_1hey: Most people are infurriating to talk to
a1c4p0ne: I don’t believe in it it’s pseudoscience
futurist_wizard: All autistic people have been sent to prison for violence at least once
a1c4p0ne: Just having fun
hey1_1hey: Proejcting much
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: whats ur IGN
oooooooooog: mine is [NotAGuest]
zoermena: Idk
oooooooooog: it says it on the main screen
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416
zoermena: NinjaOM714
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/kmt-yeah-right-hmmm-really-gif-21502858
hey1_1hey: I think you're <:suseye:1187461162024046703>...
That might just be me tho, I am a timid femboy theres prob some big beefy multi homicide convicted fellas in here
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hikukomoru: What are you trying to do lil bud
sarik0497: Cryo sleep looking more and more exciting by the day
st.sioux: i'm curious how long-distance relationships were seen when phones were first invented or widely accessible
hikukomoru: That's the opposite of proving to someone that AI is good
joaoluz19: You know what's funny, CEOs can say AGI NEXT YEAR and we just have to believe it's next year. Repeat that for 200 years
okbut: Recommend
joaoluz19: But better, I think the singularity community suffers more from early anxiety than false promises.
sarik0497: Exactly. It wasn't that long ago that if you told someone that "Oh, I met her on WoW/EQ/whatever (before Tinder and such), people looked at you weird. Hell, HIMYM has an episode making fun of this.
okbut: It seems that in this case it is simply about the answer, which Grok capitalizes on with its UI
sarik0497: Yeah...
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196
st.sioux: Lol i guess it's just a matter of when hot people start doing it, then its ok
sarik0497: Just look at gaming in general or working in IT.
okbut: I think they have been considered more normal, back when long-distance travel was more difficult, and pen pals were preferred
joaoluz19: This is called an appeal to nature. People condemn everything that is not the status quo as if anything that is not the same is inferior.
wolf3404: Nothing ever happens, 4.5 is out and the world has not changed, Claude is still the best model by far for any sort of real life practical use, same at is was a year ago, GPT 5 will probably just be another model with small marginal improvements in some areas.
joaoluz19: Yeah post ASI relationships will be infinitely better and we can even measure all of this mathematically
st.sioux: match.com uses an algorithm to match people if i'm not mistaken
joaoluz19: My man is happy
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/chud-nothing-ever-happens-nothing-ever-happens-gif-5603746312914518503
sarik0497: At least tell me cryo sleep is gonna work, because the wait is loooooong <:sadge:892224282363588679>
joaoluz19: Apart from Sesame I don't think there was anything REALLY impressive too this year but I think maybe the agents towards the end of the year might be like WOW
okbut: They all do but they're all circumvented by the human preference of vision
A truly powerful match-finding algorithm will severely decrease the weight on that and improve focus on similarity and compatibility
okbut: My gf is the hottest girl in the world, because she just like me
joaoluz19: Lol I didn't know, it's interesting to explore how far we can go with behaviorism alone, but I mean using neural data, generating ideal people and environments
_3sphere: The best kind of wireheading
joaoluz19: Still, I wanted to see the algorithms and mathematical treatment they used.
darkstar0818: I think you young ones are just used to shit happening so fast that you miss most of it so it seems like nothing is happening 🙂
darkstar0818: if humans are only picking up on 1% of what is happening in 2024, and 0.5% in 2025 its going to seem like the same level of change.
hikukomoru: *no new SOTA model released in a week* - "It's so fucking over, Singularity cancelled"
_3sphere: Today I played Factorio and Super Metroid almost all day and spent 10 minutes preparing for tomorrow's physics test 🙃
joaoluz19: Cute
okbut: If I remember right, the card-type apps (Tinder, Bumble, etc) put those with similar "interests" (those you provide it to the API) and prioritize those
_3sphere: Biggest AI news to me right now is the METR task length scaling paper
joaoluz19: But I'm talking about the algorithms themselves, I remember when they launched TikTok and a lot of people were hyped.
okbut: But still higher than "interests" is "elo" (How many right-swipes a person gets) which is dumb
okbut: I imagine it's great for the companies though which obv prefer the users stay on the app longer
joaoluz19: I personally don't like the idea of dating apps but it's interesting to see the systems engineering
_3sphere: dating elo 💀
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clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/Josikinz/status/1905441760609964396#m
spicy.lemonade: the fuck
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: thats
spicy.lemonade: perfect
spicy.lemonade: omg
spicy.lemonade: this is going to be amazing for science for mass
drewsni: how close is it to the paper?
spicy.lemonade: but it missed half
spicy.lemonade: of the research
spicy.lemonade: it missed the AI part
spicy.lemonade: it did the first half the methodology
drewsni: ill have to see what it can do if it just reads the paper, i asked for a summary and then generated the image
fractalcomputer: I love how different parts of the brain.
spicy.lemonade: wtf bro
spicy.lemonade: im in awe
spicy.lemonade: that science infographic
spicy.lemonade: jesus
spicy.lemonade: im feeling it ilya
fractalcomputer: This is retarded.
fractalcomputer: Are you going to be impressed by every single thing they throw our way?
drewsni: if it gives dopamine, yes
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
oooooooooog: fractal-sama, it's novel... novelty... you must understand...
spicy.lemonade: this is truly impresive
spicy.lemonade: like nothing we have ever seen
spicy.lemonade: major jump since a week ago
fractalcomputer: I don't particularly see how the picture is informative or even accurate in representing the structure of the paper.
spicy.lemonade: it explains the methadology
spicy.lemonade: not the whole paper
spicy.lemonade: and the text is good
spicy.lemonade: the format is good
spicy.lemonade: looks good
spicy.lemonade: its impressive
fractalcomputer: I don't see it.
spicy.lemonade: the deepmind paper
fractalcomputer: Not to mention the incomprehensible third panel.
spicy.lemonade: its in the nature
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: ^^^
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fractalcomputer: I don't know, you spend a bit too much time here, eh?
darkstar0818: Nobel laureate AI is all well and good. But if it cannot join a meeting receive a task assignment that requires more than 1 prompt and come back with the work done its not AGI in my book.
abundantliving_:
abundantliving_:
fractalcomputer: Dude, scaling up is the solution
fractalcomputer: Bah. Humbug.
.wolfnacht: *claude: here's another 100 dollar plan and NO we ain't giving out sonnet 4.0 and Opus ain't4you*
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bLs7F.gif
himekokatagiri: When they start naming models like US automakers name their engines you know you're gonna see some shit
okbut: I'm hesitant to expect o3 or o4-mini until GPT-5 is released, and then only API, given Sama's tweet about shipping it as an entire model
darkstar0818: he changed his mind.
spicy.lemonade: Dude it’s on the page lol
darkstar0818: I am excited to see the API price on o3/o4-mini
abundantliving_: That's worse than their blogs
spicy.lemonade: If you go to ChatGPT o3 and o4 mini
spicy.lemonade: The page is indexed
spicy.lemonade: Very clearly planning to drop
darkstar0818: If you gotta ask the price you cannot afford it.
okbut: Which one? I'm shit at searching
okbut: Ohhh, this reminds me of the time 4.5-preview was in there too
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Yes and if you go to ChatGPT/o4-mini
spicy.lemonade: It pops up for a split second
spicy.lemonade: No 404
fractalcomputer: Amazing. So colourful. I can almost feel the AGI.
.wolfnacht: will gpt 4.10 >>> 4.5 ? are they applying LLM logic ?
darkstar0818: not enough indigo
spicy.lemonade: I think what it means is gpt 4.1 is better but less called up
fractalcomputer: It's astounding how retarded this hype culture has grown.
.wolfnacht: or they're the open sauce
spicy.lemonade: I think scale of 4.5 gives it more inherent abilities
spicy.lemonade: Based on what they discussed in video
spicy.lemonade: So technically to user 4.1 might be better
spicy.lemonade: But overall no
spicy.lemonade: More like an optimization
okbut: Wtf is 4.1? Less parameters than 4.5? A distil?
spicy.lemonade: Maybe a distil honestly
.wolfnacht: who knows can't they give some really good names to models
spicy.lemonade: A very impressive model on openrouter
spicy.lemonade: Very good spatial reasoning
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oooooooooog: STUDIO GIBLI ALEJANDRO PFP
hey1_1hey: What's the obsession with this art style btw
alejandrozarzuelo: Hmmm actually it's just funny, because it doesn't make you laugh
alejandrozarzuelo: I really like it
hey1_1hey: Is it just something we've set are selves on because we are all autistic or what
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah it's just in the zeitgeist
hey1_1hey: It seems like everyone is doing it tho
alejandrozarzuelo: As I said, it's in the zeitgeist
zoermena: We should make a list of art styles for 4o, in a thread or something
oooooooooog: NO NEED
hey1_1hey: We don't even need to hive mind honestly. We all mostly think the same to begin with a any way
zoermena: Why?
futurist_wizard: It does
oooooooooog: YOU CAN JUST KEEP THE IMAGES IN A FOLDER
oooooooooog: THEN USE THEM FOR STYLES
futurist_wizard: Isn't it your bedtime
hey1_1hey: It is
zoermena: I haven’t really tried replicating a style to be honest
hey1_1hey: Can't sleep tho
hikukomoru: He can't stop thinking abt me 🫦
technocake.: why are you shouting?
alejandrozarzuelo: You like it?
hey1_1hey: Yeah obv, got the weird shcziophtenic Portuguese gremlin running laps in my mind
oooooooooog: YOU SHOULD TRY THE BLUE BACON DRAEDON YHARIM STYLE
oooooooooog: JUST IMAGINE IT
hikukomoru: Can you stop yelling 🙏
oooooooooog: MY CAPS LOCK KEY FELL OFF SO I CANT
hikukomoru: Mushroom has kindergarten tomorrow
hikukomoru: Let him sleep
hey1_1hey: You two are really giving drunk step dad and concerned mother vibes
zoermena: Ok
zoermena: I tried this
zoermena: It’s cool but not what I expected
st.sioux: this shit haunts my dreams not even joking
alejandrozarzuelo: Why produce disturbing images when you can just be cozy
alejandrozarzuelo: Like me
oooooooooog: BECAUSE COZIENESS IS EASILY MASS PRODUCABLE
zoermena: I like cozy but I haven’t cracked it with 4o
hey1_1hey: Because disturbing images are peak
alejandrozarzuelo: <@560984241526013954> answer my question
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wellmeaningalien: Like GPT 4o was getting serious but this is no joke
xauxusd: how can image gen not be art you will never get the same 2 generation
wellmeaningalien: Human exceptionalism n shiz
okbut: I thought that's how stable diffusion worked
drewsni: It suffers the same dumb issues like all other models which is annoying
wellmeaningalien: ???!!??! All still Ideogram btw
wellmeaningalien: It might even have cooked GPT 4o a bit
wellmeaningalien: Even though it doesn't have the same intelligence and prompt following of 4o but it damn well gets near it
wellmeaningalien: Yeah but for what it's worth it's the best coding model right now although Gemini 2.5 Pro's giving it a run for it's money
a1c4p0ne: No more paying shitty designers on fiverr to do half ass jobs 🔥
wellmeaningalien: Example of more regular prompts
wellmeaningalien: It's so insane and photorealistic even the reflections
wellmeaningalien: I feel like if you ever need a way to visualize the progress of AI models then you can see it right here in how damn far image models have come
wellmeaningalien:
xauxusd:
wellmeaningalien: Ideogram?
xauxusd:
xauxusd: chatgpt
wellmeaningalien: oh damn
wellmeaningalien: thats goated
wellmeaningalien: yk chatgpt can generate website ideas AND websites. would be cool with agent shi
xauxusd: yea, i wanted it to convert the first image to a website but it cant get it 1:1 especially with the image it generated
xauxusd: when models can use the difussion as like an idea where it can almost think of the prompt, and not just generate it but also turn it to code 1:1 and keep it persistent with minor tweaks it would be a new mile stone
wellmeaningalien: Definitely
wellmeaningalien: Sadly ChatGPT sucks balls for coding
wellmeaningalien: And image recognition
.histic: Sam trying hard to attract indian consumers
https://x.com/sama/status/1907531078581272931
wellmeaningalien: Gemini is good at both those. Cue to step their image gen game up
futurist_wizard: Cricket
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907534117731770371
metaldragon01: Rip
metaldragon01: Time to learn Chinese bros
st.sioux: nah
st.sioux: why
metaldragon01: Because chips just got way more expensive and China can make their own
st.sioux: no i mean why the tariffs
st.sioux: lol
maintcrew: blanket reciprocal for every country
metaldragon01: Because fking stupid
maintcrew: from apr 1
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anathemaofmankind: Yeah but fuck twitter artists in particular
anathemaofmankind: Well I don't consider luddites as "people"
hikukomoru:
zoermena: Chat should I go home, my classroom is locked and my digestive system is not working with me
zoermena: The other choice is waiting 15 minutes
anathemaofmankind: If you go to twitter and ask artists there how many of us they'd like to die, a lot would say the same words.
Why are you defending people who hate you?
hikukomoru: Because my fate is the same as theirs
All of us are getting replaced
It's just that artists are among the first
zoermena: Yeah fuck it
hikukomoru: Go home and generate more 4o images 👍
zoermena: Real asf
anathemaofmankind: The reaction here should be to adapt to it.
Giving death threats to people just because they're using AI tools, makes them the POS in my view.
And I don't care about POS lives
hikukomoru: You really live up to your name "anathemaofmankind"
zoermena: They do say that it’s not great to fight toxic by going toxic
anathemaofmankind: Then we're just gonna get bullied and ostracized
zoermena: How? We are fundamentally right, AI is poised to achieve AGI in our lifetimes. We have to prove nothing, the world will show itself
hikukomoru: Why does that matter
AGI is getting here either way
anathemaofmankind: That's like saying students should just take bullying lying down because school is gonna end after a few years
hikukomoru: Getting called names on xitter is not the same thing as getting beaten up at school
zoermena: No, this is a fundamental change in the world, you only allow yourself to be offended by twitter people.
anathemaofmankind: I don't think you're aware how far it goes.
It's not just names, some of them go out of their way to try and ruin careers of AI artists
hikukomoru: It doesn't matter what furry inflation artists on twitter want
It doesn't change anything
anathemaofmankind: Which affects real people
anathemaofmankind: You have devs who use AI assets being bullied and having their work ruined after spending months on it
futurist_wizard: Artists are known to be the toughest kids on the playground
anathemaofmankind: Just because you don't care, doesn't mean it's not a real issue
futurist_wizard: The jocks hide in fear over the art corner
st.sioux: the real victims here are the billionaires
st.sioux: have some empatti
zoermena: How can you fight against cancel culture?
jonvi_1: I'm cancelling midjourney
hikukomoru: You can't
Unless they start nuking data centers Yudkowsky style then it's silly to care about people making "kill ai artists" memes on twitter
zoermena: You could protect yourself by not saying you are making AI content
anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/1hythla/twitter_artist_gets_backlash_from_witch_hunting/
anathemaofmankind: Witch hunting has already affected many real people, among others
st.sioux: It's not silly to care if you're receiving death threats
st.sioux: at one point you are at a real risk of being doxxed or harmed
realelonmuskx: are there any meltdowns in reddit/x from artist cuz chatgpt images today?
anathemaofmankind: Which actually happens to ppl because of lunatics on twitter
anathemaofmankind: I remember one YT creator called Chibi got CP sent to him to get him imprisoned because he posted something about anime
anathemaofmankind: Maybe in r/artisthate
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trent_k: i put in the application
hey1_1hey: ...
trent_k: that we've been together
trent_k: for 4 years
trent_k: HAHAHA OH NO
spicy.lemonade: WAIT
hey1_1hey: What happned
maintcrew: 💀
anathemaofmankind: XD
trent_k: HAHAHAHAHAHA
anathemaofmankind: LOL
spicy.lemonade: BRO
anathemaofmankind: LMAO
trent_k: well
hikukomoru: Oh god
spicy.lemonade: 25 & 14
trent_k: i sure hope the artists are bad at math
trent_k: 💀
anathemaofmankind: Maybe they will think you're based
trent_k: im in tears laughing at how stupid this story is
trent_k: "don't come at me with your western heteronormative ideals bro, i dont agree with that shit 😤"
spicy.lemonade: i cant breathe
hey1_1hey: OH GOD YOU TWO SAID YOU WERE DATING AT DIFFERENT TIMES
anathemaofmankind: I IDENTIFY AS A MINOR IN AN ADULT'S BODY
alejandrozarzuelo: Yoiu are gay? Weren't youu on a very very pathetic SIMP-esque date with a girl recently?
joaoluz19: What
spicy.lemonade: just for this scenario bro
fractalcomputer: He is not gay.
spicy.lemonade: not irl
hey1_1hey: Too on the nose
hikukomoru: Chaos
joaoluz19: Revelations
fractalcomputer: Most homosexuals I know are quite boring people.
trent_k: i cant look at the sailor pic without cracking up
trent_k: the most grizzled 18 yr old on planet earth
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: Most Ik are fucking insane
alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> is the biggest simp ever
anathemaofmankind: I know homosexuals irl and they are all friendly
spicy.lemonade: bruh
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himekokatagiri: I think therapy is a scam but lol no
himekokatagiri: Don't kill people
himekokatagiri: As long as there's life there's hope
hikukomoru: No
alejandrozarzuelo: I told you, state mandated diagnosis for every person and mandatory lobotomy if deemed adequate
trojan09205: If you meet the Buddha on the road kill him
maintcrew: u know that people of your mental stature were kicked out of the tribe right
maintcrew: retvrn
hikukomoru: So literally your solution is to lobotomize the majority of men
Kinda based ngl
himekokatagiri: There's no tribe anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: Who says that you would be free not to go?
himekokatagiri: They're all dead
hikukomoru: Kick me out of the tribe and I'll burn the village down
alejandrozarzuelo: Not the majority, most men are well adjusted
Sure a greater proportion of men would be lobotomised than women, but both numbers would be small
futurist_wizard: The lack of liberal freedom in you is worrying
maintcrew: do you even know how to make a fire
maintcrew: cuz i dont
maintcrew: actually i do you use the lighter
himekokatagiri: Guarany™ brand matches
alejandrozarzuelo: Freedom is going home drunk alone at 3am and not fear a thing
alejandrozarzuelo: Crime is not to be tolerated
maintcrew: alejandro take on el salvador one word go
himekokatagiri: When you get drunk you're committing the crime
alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly I think that before we start lobotomising people, we should start with the MUCH easier solution of creating a surveillance state
hikukomoru: Alejandro you're a criminal now
hikukomoru: Get lobotomized
alejandrozarzuelo: Critical support
futurist_wizard: You already know why this wouldn't happen
himekokatagiri: 🚬 hope AI won't be like Alejandro
futurist_wizard: Well for many reasons
himekokatagiri: cause we're all going to the slammer
himekokatagiri: Alejandro included
hikukomoru: Lobotomization method: Singularity discord server
himekokatagiri: no one gets spared
alejandrozarzuelo: It altesdy does happen in the safest countries ob earth
🇨🇳 🇸🇬
himekokatagiri: that's the logical endpoint of destructive ideologies
himekokatagiri: They don't create
himekokatagiri: they destroy
himekokatagiri: until they get destroyed themselves, or nothing is left.
maintcrew: anarchy101 lingo its so ngmi 💔
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hikukomoru: Small startup company pls be understanding
spicy.lemonade: yes
ailoveyoom: Keep in mind OAI's image takes thrice as long to generate lol
hey1_1hey: It litterly just added the "feel the AGI" text 😭
spicy.lemonade: bigger and better
joaoluz19: Meme generation is shit
hikukomoru: Not feeling the vibes on this one ngl
literallyvarane: It’s actually just one H100 running at 99.999c
maintcrew: im fearing gemini 2.5 is retarded
ailoveyoom: So fast goon or accurate goon to images
hey1_1hey: SAXEMS confirmed!
joaoluz19: It's joever?
maintcrew: any model that does this instead of just answering you deserves to go to the trash bin
gamerbath: <@312370916820779040> any idea why it seems to generate from top to bottom? is this just an effect they are adding? because diffusion doesn't look like that. Grok also has this same animation
joaoluz19: Where
hikukomoru: It's over
drewsni: still Dalle for me
spicy.lemonade: sora
literallyvarane: *im not saying it reminds me of the paper I linked earlier but….”
hikukomoru: I look like this btw
maintcrew: not obese enough
maintcrew: invalid
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686
gamerbath: bro that's so much text
spicy.lemonade: thinking in image?
drewsni: grok image gen is autoregressive too?
maintcrew: gemini generate a drawing of an obese wojak furry to portray my opponent in this conversation
hey1_1hey: This guy looks like a nedanthal 😭
gamerbath: if it can do this well i'm gonna eat a banana peel
spicy.lemonade: I tried to fastforward the live😭
ailoveyoom: This just makes me want to see a 2.5 Pro native image 😔
technocake.: cooked
hikukomoru: > I'm unable to create images that are disrespectful or offensive. Is there something else I can help you visualize?
st.sioux: youre doneso bro hope you like banana peels
hey1_1hey: Einstein spotted
Nut busted
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: beutiful
hey1_1hey: Hey... Thats pretty good
spicy.lemonade: already
gamerbath: ah yes, manga lol
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hikukomoru: Sorry oomfie
himekokatagiri: 😭
himekokatagiri: I thought my fellow singularity fans would be well rounded and have no weird proclivities
ldj: Many of them are internet degens that have never had significant physical interaction IRL. I think you shouldn’t be *that* surprised.
aero447: TF.
trojan09205: https://www.simonpcouch.com/blog/2025-04-18-o3-o4-mini/
aero447: Who are you?
aero447: What did you do to MichMach.
trojan09205: oy why no summary box thing for this link?
Found a nice article comparing o4 and o3 mini for R programming capabilities on linkedin
aero447: <@1190031399080710195> Outgooned him.
aero447: 😫
himekokatagiri: Gahhh I just want a better life
himekokatagiri: there's no perspective of a future
himekokatagiri: therefore
himekokatagiri: we need AI to bail us out
aero447: Bold words.
aero447: Fine speech.
himekokatagiri: or else it's 40 more years of whatever this is
valimil: wage slavery or fdvr
himekokatagiri: well I was thinking post scarcity first
trojan09205: yall familiar with this?
https://github.com/openai/codex
himekokatagiri: though I won't fix the world lol I'll bail to the sims
aero447: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ucKbF5l4LvU/mqdefault.jpg
aero447: However.
aero447:
himekokatagiri: look there's nothing wrong about being maladjusted
himekokatagiri: it's not your fault the world is fucked
aero447: No.
aero447: Apathy is death.
himekokatagiri: so what do I do
himekokatagiri: nothing I can do
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/kotor-apathy-is-death-gif-2169628935331881888
himekokatagiri: gotta ride out the tide
aero447:
theaiguy69420_89814: <@269678268670672896> o3 in the API doesnt have the same output context issues as the web app
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂️
metaldragon01: I only had issues with o4, o3 was fine tbh
ldj: Based
himekokatagiri: I'm booored
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-gif-27578658
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natewill_: i'm guessing o3-high is full o3
natewill_: instead of o3 mini high
popsiclejohnithan: Superintelligence next week.
mantegh5061: o3 pro will be a beast
spicy.lemonade: where o3
spicy.lemonade: need to test now
srirachamayosauce: o3 high is a full model on steroids, theres the normal o3
srirachamayosauce: basically o3-high is o3 with more compute
futurist_wizard: All that waiting just to see bald men and yellow bars
spicy.lemonade: why didnt same show up though? i gues hell show up for gpt5?
drewsni: https://x.com/aidan_mclau/status/1912559163152253143?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw
abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1912556874211422572
futurist_wizard: Im gon eat sandwich
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tristan-tate-cigar-smoking-puff-gif-27417359
himekokatagiri: ...what, was that it?
himekokatagiri: I waited for this
himekokatagiri: so long
himekokatagiri: and it was this?
himekokatagiri: I didn't even see it
literallyvarane: For me the o3 they demoed + Sora level image out would be something close to what I’d expect from GPT-5
literallyvarane: The fact we got o3 and GPT-5 probably is based on o4 raises the bar a bit for me.
abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1912556874211422572
hikukomoru: Yeah, they announced AGI just like that
return_to_monke1_33974: 04 showcased tomorow?
return_to_monke1_33974: maybe
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/liar-star-wars-mad-angry-gif-15937551
hikukomoru: GPT 5 tomorrow
spicy.lemonade: those liars o4 mini is not the #1 competative programmer on earth
a1c4p0ne: O4 mini with tools 🔥
return_to_monke1_33974: full o4
spicy.lemonade: tru
spicy.lemonade: likeley
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is about 188th
mantegh5061: Oh that's why altman wasn't there
mantegh5061: he will be there for o4
literallyvarane: I don’t think they ship fat o4
literallyvarane: It’s probably just GPT5
return_to_monke1_33974: no , but showcase
literallyvarane: Why showcase a model you’re not shipping?
return_to_monke1_33974: because too expensive
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metaldragon01: The Chinese Labs have been far more open
.coldcall: Its not going to get banned because its not feasible to do so.
.coldcall: They can't even ban TikTok <:catcry:1187466366006087862>
sieventer: Digital world it's pretty difficult to ban
rayanquitplayin: Haven’t heard much from Copilot recently
zoermena:
sieventer: 2030
zoermena: Do you still have plus?
sieventer: Nope
sieventer: I'm happy with Google AI Studio
sieventer: They are making each day more and more UI friendly
.histic: dang, i got to use all my o4-mini-high outputs before 12
zoermena: Nice
zoermena: I really like the new models
zoermena: The search feature upgrade is honestly incredible, it’s like a quick deep research
professorheaven: MMLU pro and GPQA diamond are very close to saturation so those ones aren’t too valuable anymore. HLE and Frontier are far from saturation
.histic: yeah, the chain of thought for searches is a good ui update too
.histic: first time an o-series OpenAI model actually said what its model name is.
all the previous ones didn't when asked.
zoermena: Something cool I tried was to change my system prompt so that it mentioned the last 3 things we discussed in other chats and it does that with great accuracy sometimes providing the time of that chat which is quite crazy.
zoermena: It’s a weird quirk and perhaps not that useful but it surprised me.
.histic: the feds are spying on you! 😱
zoermena: That’s interesting! I dont know how knowing about my abdominal pain helps them but that’s cool!
zoermena: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: i think it'd be quite funny if the NSA had a backdoor to OpenAI and saw all of the crazy ass chats users have.
.histic: i wouldn't want to see that shit lol
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1912690850292768951?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
zoermena: I used to have “worse” chats in 2022/2023 back when I did jailbreaking. Now it’s just NPC stuff.
okbut: Predictions for the Gemini 4/22 release?
.histic: bruh, i'm just talking to o4-mini-high like a normal conversation and i still haven't reached my rate limit wtf
.histic: wtf
.histic: omg
a1c4p0ne: Do that with o3
.histic: i didn't know o4 and o3 can actually SEARCH for images
.histic: like i gave it an anime character's face and it could identity who it was
zoermena: There was this dragonfly model IIRC which apparently is an improved coder. I wouldn’t be shocked if it got shipped.
.histic: 😨
a1c4p0ne: It can find the restaurant you’re in based on a picture of the menu
zoermena: A cooler use case is to give you the reviews of the restaurant in a more digestible output which is better than what you’d find in Google maps or something.
zoermena: Helping you quickly figure out how healthy a menu item is based on its name or something i dont know.
.histic: rip
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okbut: I still hold it more that he's cranky about music AI
okbut: This is his soapbox moment
st.sioux: literally the first time i try to use grok
_cloudost: He's virtue signaling and knows he will get a lot of likes if he talks against AI
On TikTok there's a huge number of third world Islamic users, Americans love making content in favor of these Islamic users, I legit saw many clips of Americans adoring Osama Bin Laden and support Islamic terrorist organization
mihrcelium: Suno is practically *there*. It's in its V4 era. A few more months...
mihrcelium: I am honestly shocked Suno isn't getting an absolutely massive social media storm backlash given what it can do as of the last few months.
okbut: I hope the comments = image gens with better captions
anathemaofmankind: Just nuke the world at this point
anathemaofmankind: Flood the planet
ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
anathemaofmankind: I'm gonna generate myself in the art style of emo wolf
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: https://fxtwitter.com/yashar/status/1724942399431217457
_cloudost: They will do anything just to get likes from islamists
okbut: He also duets every girl doing a suggestive dance to his music
His algo is probably gross
anathemaofmankind: So some Americans think 9/11 was justified now.
I'm guessing they're all left wing
okbut: Some Americans think the phone emergency number 911 is because of 9/11
okbut: Kek
_cloudost: They're left, I used to be ok with American woke but these clips
brain4brain: Most anti-AI are somehow left wing, while pro-AI goes both way of right and left wing
anathemaofmankind: Yes because the woke crowd are the biggest virtue signalers
anathemaofmankind: They will leap at the first chance to pander and attach themselves to a moral high ground
.histic: <@471334973379706900> Mutahar wants China to win the race clearly. OpenAI's rational is sensible. China nor any other country will follow the rules of his 'ethics'.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: china will be worse for AI art
spicy.lemonade: lol
brain4brain: The rise of AI hate really shows that to go viral you have to be retarded
spicy.lemonade: china will make less censored
oooooooooog: those dont look that similar though
st.sioux: yes
okbut: Extreme progressivism has become the opposite
spicy.lemonade: i think they do
spicy.lemonade: one has much more shading than other
anathemaofmankind: Don't you mean more censored
anathemaofmankind: Wut
st.sioux: watch chinese scammers start making deepfake porn and scam crypto schemes using celebrity voices and shit
spicy.lemonade: no
st.sioux: they actually dont care
spicy.lemonade: china will be less censored
spicy.lemonade: open sourced
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spacetimetsunami: Are yall generating via Sora or 4o rn
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Show him show him
hikukomoru: Sorry I pinged you
technocake.: MISSING
hey1_1hey: Do what you want, I am just a person on the internet. I cant force you to do anything
alejandrozarzuelo: what was the issue
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Pass the prompt
futurist_wizard: An orgy with both your hands don't count as a threesome
hey1_1hey: I get to hot swap like I am a nascar driver
maintcrew: <@688807313015963693> quick what is martingales theorem
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693>, <@439829942310666250> is coming out as trans or smth idk
.histic:
alejandrozarzuelo: by name idk what that is
wellmeaningalien: "an alien in the style of claude monet"
maintcrew: youre FIRED
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
wellmeaningalien: np
hey1_1hey: Hard to explain, best way I can explain it is you look in the mirror and the person looking back at you isn't you just a person looking back at you
technocake.: claude my beloved
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, do you think i know every name of every random bloke who wrote anything?
.histic: this is what <@505313122802728972> looks like
hikukomoru: Driving with a mouse 🔥
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Absolutly not
hikukomoru: ⁉️
futurist_wizard: Asian
alejandrozarzuelo: ok so the regression to the mean theorem
zoermena: AMAZING PASS THE PROMPT I BEG YOU
hey1_1hey: They are like weird short gremlin vibes
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> i dont know
maintcrew: i dont know either just some guy was using it as an example on twitter
its some representation theory shit i just wanted to put u on the spot
hikukomoru: I am not Asian bro 😭
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: wait, what are you?
hikukomoru: I look like this actually
alejandrozarzuelo: its the regression to the mean theorem dude, its very easy
hikukomoru: I'm Portuguese
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gamerbath: whatever popcorn pankes is
st.sioux: i can generate videos through vertexai but not aistudio
st.sioux: weird
ailoveyoom: Did you already ate some or is that the whole portion they gave you?
ldj: That’s the whole portion
ailoveyoom: Or is the shrimp just super big
ldj: They are big
ldj: A single piece is as big as my phone
ailoveyoom: Worth it then 🤤
fractalcomputer: Takoyaki.
fractalcomputer: You had the shrimp.
fractalcomputer: Shame.
ldj: Ketchup packet for scale
fractalcomputer: Shrimps have a ton of potential, I feel like.
drewsni: That’s Costco panko shrimp <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: the cockroach of the sea
fractalcomputer: Blessed are the meek.
ldj: I agree, we should buy the dip
retrerox: Just make a new account with temp mail services
.wolfnacht: i need the new flash nowwww
gamerbath: https://twitter.com/AnthropicAI/status/1910035641242640501
gamerbath: claude max
gamerbath:
drewsni: I’ll let someone tell me but if it can output 1000 LOC at once I’ll buy it
okbut: <:monkaS:408109232496312330>
wellmeaningalien: google stay winning
.wolfnacht: indeed
https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/ironwood-tpu-age-of-inference/
.wolfnacht:
literallyvarane: How you have 2729372937384 in funding but making your people pay $16 for some rice
drewsni: I’ll wait for the semianalysis post before I make up my mind
okbut: Oh fuck bud
ldj: It’s a cafe that the public can use too, not just OAI employees
ldj: It maybe gets charged to OAI whenever an employee eats there
_wwwwww: Mutant
_wwwwww: What happened?
okbut: Over 75 countries called USA to talk about the tariffs, Trump paused them until they're worked out
okbut: Always buy the dip
drewsni: Nvidia is up 3 AMDs right now lol
okbut: ?
drewsni: Yes
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hikukomoru: Zaddy 🔥
zoermena: That’s weird I’ve seen some trademarked content I think
hey1_1hey: Dont give me ideas for my next generation
spicy.lemonade: ai is only good for replacing things people dont wanna do like office jobs coding and stem-artists
hikukomoru: Please replace everyone 🙏 🙏
sarik0497: It refuses me everytime.
It just doesn’t like me, I guess 😦
.histic:
hey1_1hey: I mean I like drawing, programming and most of STEM. You don't see me crying about how AI is better than me. I am relived when it is
spicy.lemonade: yeah
hey1_1hey: Why is there no horse cock?
spicy.lemonade: as a competative programmer
spicy.lemonade: who lost his only hobby
spicy.lemonade: that got him noteriety
spicy.lemonade: im happy
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-turning-smiling-smile-laughing-gif-25966841
sarik0497: Don’t give MichMach ideas
st.sioux: coding is so boring its the worst part of the job as a swe
spicy.lemonade: the value of my ranking went to zero in a day
st.sioux: like
hey1_1hey: "Please create an anatomically accurate horse"
technocake.: spoken like a retard
.histic:
drewsni: YOOOOOOOOOO
drewsni: <@1068159407671754824>
st.sioux: what do u think is worse? clients
st.sioux: lol
hikukomoru: Give this guy his own anime 🔥
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: atleast i can say i was top 50 in the world for golang in 2023
hey1_1hey: Give him a break 😭
st.sioux: i saw a fart compilation with this guy
technocake.: clients is the worst part, I love coding
hey1_1hey: We got image AGI before text AGI
st.sioux: fair
tors.exe: Someone Make tomboy !
spicy.lemonade: bro
spicy.lemonade: someone try out arc agi
spicy.lemonade: and chess
hey1_1hey: Or femboy
hey1_1hey: I mean either or really
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encapsulation: This starts to happen around 2,300 lines of code
encapsulation: That's where I start to have sometimes have issues with GPT
encapsulation: Gemini just keeps cranking though
literallyvarane: I mean my 2025 predictions say I think Google is winning by eoy, but until we see them *aiming* for frontier if I’m very cautious.
metaldragon01: Haven't seen nebula reports?
literallyvarane: Nah
metaldragon01: Clear sota google model on lymsys
ailoveyoom: Prolly cheaper too 🥵
metaldragon01: The only question is how long they will hold the lead
literallyvarane: Maybe. Idk the fact you only get 50 uses of Gemini 2 pro per day makes me think that’s an expensive model by their standards.
metaldragon01: Less expensive than 4o
metaldragon01: 2.5 won't be o3 level
literallyvarane: Do we have api for 2 pro?
metaldragon01: Yes
metaldragon01: Sorta
literallyvarane: *pricing I mean
metaldragon01: Don't think so
clevermoniker: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> <:ez:1136267305521774634>
literallyvarane: Ye, idk. Idk I think 2 pro could be expensive. Probably not 4.5, but expensive
metaldragon01: 2.5 demand is going to be pretty high. Google trying to break into the app space with this release
metaldragon01: I just wonder if we are getting other features with it.
_3sphere: That actually worked? The brain isn't aligned to what's most useful, it just is the pile of emotional drives and memories that it is
literallyvarane: If it’s 2.5 with the tool use of 2flashing thinking+tools that’s a massive W.
ai9708: what worked for me were many things together
ai9708: this was just a part of it
ai9708: try to understand things better
ai9708: fear/worry is a reaction of our brain that tries to help us usually
ai9708: productive fear/worry its called
ai9708: but sometimes we get unproductive ones
ai9708: those never help
ai9708: of course you cant just turn them off
metaldragon01: Has memory access from reports and some reporting Astra access as well
ai9708: but first understand the difference
metaldragon01: Deepseek may have woke the giant
metaldragon01: It think less for simple questions
_3sphere: Even that is easier said than done when you're actually worrying
ai9708: i took antidepressants too though at the hight of the depression, should mention that
ai9708: i took high doses too
literallyvarane: Can’t WAIT for these performances graphs to be like 0.3% stronger in 1 out of 5 benchmarks
ai9708: yup, it does not work just like that
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himekokatagiri: so if I refresh the page the guestbook resets then?
himekokatagiri: yeah
himekokatagiri: it resets
.histic: no way agi
spicy.lemonade: im feeling the agi
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acKYYwcxpGk
playstation.6: I just realized something specific
himekokatagiri: what did you realize?
playstation.6: japan
.histic: black magic
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxJCOVsV1E
himekokatagiri: like this one yeah
himekokatagiri: japanese TV always uses this filter right
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/vp7xoPeWzEw
.histic: OpenAI will have their naming figured out too
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530
.wolfnacht: that happend back at 28 march, an hour later when 2.5 pro was released
.wolfnacht: switch to staging branch.
.wolfnacht: release is always around 1-2 months late, while staging gets every model instantly *also depends when cohee will wake up and merge requests*
spicy.lemonade: where arc agi
spicy.lemonade: for new o3 and o4
spicy.lemonade: how come everyone wants to be slow asf when it comes to making openAI look good
.histic: making openai look bad*
.histic: <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
ailoveyoom: Everyone was gargling on OAI's balls as soon as o3 came out what do you mean
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 still
spicy.lemonade: hasnt been benchmarked
spicy.lemonade: on frontier math
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: how many weeks has it been
.histic: i think 2.5 pro will top frontier math, just slightly above o3.
.histic: seems like crackheads don't like Waymos
spicy.lemonade: basilisk will remember this
brain4brain: Is this real?
zoermena: Schizophrenia
.coldcall: Yes
.coldcall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
zoermena: Cool! Nightmare fuel before I go to bed
okbut: Newbie question, does lower temperature improve inference speed? Or is it in my head
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rayanquitplayin: Are LLM vectors that same vectors studied in pre-calculus?
brain4brain: Kind of, probably
rayanquitplayin: I’ll ask ChatGPT
brain4brain: What should have been done since the beginning
brain4brain: Also watch 3blue1brown, very good video on LLM
rayanquitplayin: Bet
rayanquitplayin: I like to get my information from different sources, but you right, you can ask anything to ChatGPT
brain4brain: Help me choose the best one
brain4brain: If it’s hard topic enable search and reasoning, this one seems easy probably doesn’t need to
rayanquitplayin: Search just searches the internet and reasoning shows it’s thinking right?
brain4brain: I love pantheon so much
.wolfnacht: Okay, the user.....
But wait....
Hmm,....
Alternatively.....
Or......
In conclusion....
Wait there's more,.....
Finally,.....
rayanquitplayin: 1st
.0xunkn0wn: oh shit
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: ya seen the new rubin chips?
.0xunkn0wn: and blackwell ultra
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFFh7v0ymA
.0xunkn0wn:
brain4brain: Need more data
.wolfnacht: Imagine having to sell your 1 kidney, two testicles and two legs, just to get a set of 25k each advooonced AI gpu.
rayanquitplayin: Do you have any Nvidia chips?
.0xunkn0wn: wdym
rayanquitplayin: Have you ever had an Nvidia GPU for your PC?
.0xunkn0wn: yes
rayanquitplayin: Yooooooo
rayanquitplayin: What do you use it for?
.0xunkn0wn: everything
rayanquitplayin: AI?
.0xunkn0wn: videos, gaming, creating games, browsing internet
.0xunkn0wn: i will prolly want to get a better gpu for AI or rent something lol
spicy.lemonade: you can regurgitate and still do usefull research
rayanquitplayin: Nice!
spicy.lemonade: most people dont come up with completly new ideas
.wolfnacht: I run my ai girlfriend on a 4bpw exl2 quant of a L3.3 finetune for erp.
.wolfnacht: On my 4090
.wolfnacht: With 16k ctx
rayanquitplayin: Enterprise Resource Planning
brain4brain: But you can’t invent new invention or make a game like go like Demis definition
.wolfnacht: Ofc she needs to do that
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playstation.6: Will we have techno limps for as good as human limps in 2029 and all body implants?
.wolfnacht: it'll be uncensored (except taiwan) and more efficient so it'll be diamond for me. idc abt google or OpenAI anymore
st.sioux: techno simp
st.sioux: why dont u care about gogolo or openai anymore bb
.wolfnacht: they declared: Total Roleplayer and Smut Writer Death 😔
nsec: <@1316552597829586955>
nsec: <@1152183706849644615>
nsec: y r u frauds
nsec: against sacrifcing for the greater good
nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>
nsec: give up your leg
nsec: u aint need it
spicy.lemonade: yes you do
nsec: <:pain:745576122221068318>
spicy.lemonade: deepseek will never be sota
spicy.lemonade: you indeed do care about openAi and google
nsec: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1227814510429995049/1365977180991131650
nsec: how much would u sacrifice
nsec: I wanna see the long text man's take
nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>
st.sioux: i dont havef any limbs anymore
st.sioux: i have sacrificed everything
st.sioux: i communicate through aura
_3sphere: Is is just me or are they increasing the 4o dick sucking even more over time 💀
aero447: Yes.
aero447:
_3sphere: Custom instructions were long overdue
fractalcomputer: Damn, dude, you've made such a brilliant, astute observation! Let me explore the implications of your profound discovery.
aero447: 😐
aero447:
fractalcomputer: Alright, the human seems to want me to answer his question. Let me explore what this means. He uses the words "yeye ass sycophant transformer" to describe me. Maybe this means he wants me to respond in a more colloquial manner? Let me call his mother a "fat bitch" and see if the user likes that.
himekokatagiri: What if it turned into a yandere instead
fractalcomputer: Your suggestion is profound!
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/honeycardi-doja-cat-gif-22917126
aero447: 👀
robert_46007: how can I contact r/singularity admins? the "message mods" on reddit didn't work and I never got an answer.
ailoveyoom: This is a sign to move over to Gemini 😈
ailoveyoom: Gemini's a lot 'colder' in comparison but not as sycophantic
spicy.lemonade: just finished pantheon
spicy.lemonade: when do i become an imortal digital god that lives for 2 million years
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wellmeaningalien: AI does not work on our human timeplane
wellmeaningalien: this is fire
wellmeaningalien: and not slop
wellmeaningalien: this is art
hikukomoru: I hope it gets here as soon as possible
hikukomoru: The sooner the better
spacetimetsunami: Then say goodbye to alignment
spacetimetsunami: Potentially
futurist_wizard: This will literally be 99% of feed by 2027
wellmeaningalien: that was a joke to begin with
destrucules: Y'all need to stop conceptualizing this as a moment. It's a process, and we're already pretty deep into it *now*
futurist_wizard: Alignment is a joke
wellmeaningalien: you really think we can control a being that we dont even know what it looks like yet
wellmeaningalien: or what it thinks
spacetimetsunami: So what are you expecting to become of humanity
spacetimetsunami: lol
wellmeaningalien: i dont know matt
destrucules: Alignment is not the same thing as control and arguably the two concepts are not even compatible in the first place
wellmeaningalien: it could become anything
wellmeaningalien: we could die or go to hell, or it could be pretty great
hikukomoru: Imo it’s already as aligned to human values as possible
Alignment or not, we still won’t be able to control it
wellmeaningalien: <:blobcatsip:1234865528204558346>
destrucules: An aligned AI, asked to kill a child, refuses
A controlled AI, asked to kill a child, complies
That is the difference
futurist_wizard: Ai is gonna conform to whatever it decides before and after our best efforts at aligning it
realelonmuskx: what u gon do lil bro
spacetimetsunami: Would you know this?
wellmeaningalien: idk bro
hikukomoru: Yeah I’m an expert
spacetimetsunami: Totally
wellmeaningalien: i'll do this
spacetimetsunami: We have some data on preferences but it’s all implicit values
spacetimetsunami: You can’t peer inside the boxes
hikukomoru: This is me btw
realelonmuskx: w rizz
spacetimetsunami: And once you have AIs really good at working on AIs values may change
wellmeaningalien: thanks elon <:CSMagni:694612757806317608>
_cloudost: There should be a platform specifically for AI entertainment but any person that posts low effort uncreative Videos will get their video blocked.
destrucules: When we see AIs acting up, exhibiting deceptive behaviors, exhibiting self preservation, and otherwise revealing their inner shoggoth, and *insodoing* they reveal themselves to have humanlike values and moral beliefs, then yes, we can and *must* take that seriously
_cloudost: In the future
futurist_wizard: Doesn't matter how well ants try and align a baby human, when it grows up it will determine its own rules to live by
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alejandrozarzuelo: the vision without the action
alejandrozarzuelo: and thus, it is very easy to think about the roman empire
futurist_wizard: Men think about the roman empire too much
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah their pantheism kept the peace until Christianity forced them to adopt one single religion.
hey1_1hey: This held true then <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
nobodyisugly: *not enough
hey1_1hey: I think I've prob thought about the roman empire maybe 10 times in my entire life
hey1_1hey: Its just not something that pops into my head
popsiclejohnithan: We should just reform Rome smh.
popsiclejohnithan: Make the EU a new Rome.
futurist_wizard: You don't think about the roman empire because you are barely a man.
I don't think about the roman empire because its boring af.
We are not the same.
alejandrozarzuelo: the roman empire wasnt boring
alejandrozarzuelo: it was probably the most intereting empire before the industrial revolution
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a reason why everyone tried to be the new rome
popsiclejohnithan: What's so boring about it?
ldj:
_3sphere: I last thought about the roman empire about 2 days ago I think?
alejandrozarzuelo: EVEN THE BRITISH wanted to be the new rome and they are dirty germanics
alejandrozarzuelo: who didnt want to be the new rome?
The nazis because they hated their multiculturality trade aspect
what happened to the nazis? exactly
coincidence? I dont think so
popsiclejohnithan: Ah Germanic Rome, the HRE.
futurist_wizard: I'm not interested in empires and the rise and fall of them, it's just not very relevant to the here and now, imo
popsiclejohnithan: If you don't learn from History, you're doomed to repeat it.
alejandrozarzuelo: what about alien geopolitcs? thats gotta be interesting to you
futurist_wizard: Even worse...
alejandrozarzuelo: ive decided that you are a boring person
futurist_wizard: Alien politics consist of...
futurist_wizard: NOTHING
futurist_wizard: Do you mean mexican illegal alien politics? That's quite interesting
alejandrozarzuelo: in a good scifi setting they can be very interesting and completely differnt from modern geopolitcs and politics
popsiclejohnithan: I actually wonder how politics would work on a galactic scale.
popsiclejohnithan: If it would even be politics by then.
precariousworlds.: Used to be really into Roman history but people sometimes overvalue it
Most real breakthroughs in philosophy, political organisation, science occurred in Greece. The real triumph of Rome was that it managed to export and apply these ideas on a mass scale. It's insanely impressive how the Romans formed a state-like entity with regulated borders and governance over such a massive and diverse region. So impressive that the memory of Rome dominated European identity until the 1500s, and stories of the power of Rome spread throughout the known world (even fucking Tibet adopted the title 'Caesar' for a great king)
However there should be more emphasis in western history placed on early modern England imo. From 1688 - late 1800s England basically singlehandedly built the entirety of modern civilisation, from scratch. The U.S. is basically just the continuation of the English enlightenment of the 18th Century, that moved across the Atlantic. This is the real legacy that I think more people should look to
But as for aesthetics it would be cool for more classical Roman architecture and symbolism to be adopted in the EU, as a successor state.
precariousworlds.: 🏴
futurist_wizard: Alien politics would be too alien to us, it wouldn't make sense to us on any level, even if an alien actually came down and tried to explain it to us
alejandrozarzuelo: Je pense que tu t'oublies de qui a reelement creé le monde moderne
alejandrozarzuelo: hon hon hon vive la revolution!
popsiclejohnithan: I'm sure they would be smart enough to dumb it down to our level.
precariousworlds.: romans were legendary but equally interesting were the early Islamic caliphates, Persian Empire, entirety of Chinese civilisation, Mongols, the fucking Spanish Empire come on, Mughals, Aztecs, Incas
alejandrozarzuelo: the modern world wasnt created by the british, if you need to give the title to an early modern civilization it would be France
fractalcomputer: Tu devrais écrire mieux.
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joaoluz19: https://x.com/consulted_graph/status/1914152762922905704
trojan09205: chatgpt is such a bro
.wolfnacht: dataset OAI trained their models on is peak, the only problem i have with gemini is they all lack the vibe.
trojan09205: yeah agreed. well said
trojan09205: i also have a personality system prompt on openAI web ui that works great for my bro vibe
trojan09205: i actually had no idea what ubuntu meant in the context of this random show on HBO 😄
brain4brain: How does this relates to Mira’s thinking machine, what is Jimmy trying to say
brain4brain: I was fooled by the chair: https://x.com/patience_cave/status/1914545876841979950?s=61
brain4brain: Damn it, the chair is evolving
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Where can I pay to see this:
https://x.com/rocketjohnsen/status/1914427240261226803?s=61
joaoluz19: This is incredible, technology is about making human beings experience things beyond the ordinary.
joaoluz19: Big
spicy.lemonade: ASI will make us experience 4d
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/biblically-accurate-angel-be-not-afraid-biblically-accurate-angel-feather-star-gif-5575024403102584503
joaoluz19: It would be amazing too
spicy.lemonade: brain might overload
spicy.lemonade: you might never be the same
joaoluz19: When I see something completely out of the ordinary as if it came from another world I like to use the analogy of it being like "seeing a whole new color"
joaoluz19: This is scary ngl
joaoluz19: Imagine who we would be if we could hypothetically multiply our intelligence by millions of times a la Kurzweil
spicy.lemonade: i dont wanna do that
spicy.lemonade: not yet
spicy.lemonade: give me 1 million years of being fun dumb human
spicy.lemonade: before i ascend
spicy.lemonade: knowledge is a curse
spicy.lemonade: what if i realize existance is pain and end it all or something
spicy.lemonade: give me a good 100 million years of fdvr
spicy.lemonade: then ill be able to ascend
joaoluz19: I think we would already know who we would be before transcendence, since it would be programmed, or at least we would have the probability models
okbut: >Implying deterministic being
spicy.lemonade: ive made it my life mission
spicy.lemonade: to be in the room where it happens
spicy.lemonade: in the road to superintelligence
spicy.lemonade: know some deepmind and oAI researchers and my friend is friends with ege and other people at epoch/ their new startup and berkeley a great place to form such connections
spicy.lemonade: need to BE there
spicy.lemonade: like a reporter or general watching during manhattan project
spicy.lemonade: not lame civilian
spicy.lemonade: its so nice to be in san fran
spicy.lemonade: i can see the future here
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spicy.lemonade: openAI should train o4 on 4d space
spicy.lemonade: or 5d
ldj: bad y-axis, here is better:
spicy.lemonade: could develop new emergent capabilities
spicy.lemonade: thoughts?
spicy.lemonade: like imagine newton could think in 4d
ldj: and this:
spicy.lemonade: we can bake that into AI easily
spicy.lemonade: wth 4d vector space
spicy.lemonade: and rl
ldj: how do you know they haven't already
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
spicy.lemonade: honestly i dont thnk they have
spicy.lemonade: if that was the case
spicy.lemonade: some of its reasoning would be odd
spicy.lemonade: especialy for geometry
.coldcall: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
ldj: O3 still fails the strawberry test btw, and that amongst other things, I think they have incentive to still scale up param count more for sure, and I think they will.
spicy.lemonade: really?
hikukomoru: >O3 still fails the strawberry test
It does?
ldj: I think param count will end up as the easiest way to alleviate much of those issues.
hikukomoru: Are you sure?
777agical: labeling 4d data seems hard
spicy.lemonade: we realy need to fix tokenization bro
spicy.lemonade: no way o3 fails that
spicy.lemonade: thought it was solved with o1
spicy.lemonade: no
metaldragon01: https://metr.github.io/autonomy-evals-guide/openai-o3-report/
ldj: sometimes it got it right, but a significant amout of times it still got it wrong too
metaldragon01: Please update with o3 my odc lol
spicy.lemonade: all you have to do is put the AI in a 4d space and ask it to move towards a point with a sertain set of moves and or rotations
spicy.lemonade: then do rl
spicy.lemonade: of how accurate it is
spicy.lemonade: no need to label yourself
spicy.lemonade: just maths
.coldcall: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>
hikukomoru: Needs an update
spicy.lemonade: 4d space is just [x,y,z,w]🤷♂️
spicy.lemonade: theres so many new capabilities we can give our ai
spicy.lemonade: that we dont have
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futurist_wizard: It is partly not trolling
alejandrozarzuelo: The vengeance will be that in 2 years I'll have the 10 yr middle school anniversary and I'll mog
hey1_1hey: (My wifes)
joaoluz19: What
hey1_1hey: Yanno, engima and Jgudy they are my wifes
alejandrozarzuelo: This sounds like something Calvin's dad would say
joaoluz19: I dont know them
hey1_1hey: I have no idea who that is
hikukomoru: Also "portuguése" is killing me
Either write it in Portuguese or remove the accent
hey1_1hey: You missed out 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: Calvin and Hobbes
hey1_1hey: They were so cool
hikukomoru: I have no idea what that is
hey1_1hey: Not ringing any bells
futurist_wizard: Looks glow up
hey1_1hey: Thank god I am not the only stupid one
hikukomoru: Is that some boomer movie or smth
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a comic strip from the 80s from the US
alejandrozarzuelo: Very famous
hey1_1hey: Close enoguh
hey1_1hey: Did you guys even have fire back then?
hikukomoru: Zamn are you like 40
hikukomoru: No, 60 maybe?
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: I said that in 2 years I'll have the middle school 10 yr anniversary 💀
hey1_1hey: 65-70 I was thinking
hey1_1hey: Making ray look like a teenager
joaoluz19: We don't make any math here
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm literally a third millénium guy, font talk to me like that <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: The UK just straight up doesn't have middle school
hikukomoru: Me no do number
What sentence mean?
hey1_1hey: I have no idea what that shit is
futurist_wizard: I escaped the 19xx by one year
alejandrozarzuelo: I finished middle school 8 years ago
alejandrozarzuelo: That's what it means
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk seems easy to understand
hikukomoru: Can you just give us your age
futurist_wizard: You were born in 2001 yes?
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: Like guys do the Mary
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fuhulootogan: rifht
fuhulootogan: what?
archon.e: If I was an artist i would be starting an OF by now
fuhulootogan: what do you mean by "hopefully will unemploy almost all artists"
alejandrozarzuelo: ? have i not been clear enough? hopefully AI will eliminate the employment of almost all artists
fuhulootogan: uhh
hikukomoru: Hopefully it will replace everyone else too
fuhulootogan: why?
archon.e: Coding jobs will also be eliminated
archon.e: I can’t wait for it honestly.
hikukomoru: Replacing everyone is the point
archon.e: It has become mundane to be good at coding
alejandrozarzuelo: Because wether it is art or not, if it can be consumed and produced for a fraction of the cost, it will be replaced
fuhulootogan: of AI?
archon.e: Or anything else for that matter
fuhulootogan: that's the purpose?
fuhulootogan: and how do you know that
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? why do you think companies spend trillions on AI?
hikukomoru: Yes, everyone getting replaced is the goall
alejandrozarzuelo: the goal is to replace human labor
fuhulootogan: thats your reason for hoping it does?
hikukomoru: They wouldn't be spending that much money for a few toys
archon.e: So countries with huge population will be at a massive disadvantage
archon.e: Will need to give ubi to all of them
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean i cannot see the future, i am just saying that hopefully they get replaced soon
fuhulootogan: but why
archon.e: For a while
fuhulootogan: that sounds kinda mean
alejandrozarzuelo: because I want to replace human labor?
hikukomoru: What do you mean?
alejandrozarzuelo: what part of replacing human labor is mean?
fuhulootogan: wait
fuhulootogan: so
archon.e: Jobs are basically modern day slavery
fuhulootogan: i don't really have anything against it but
fuhulootogan: if you're referring to artists
fuhulootogan: does that mean you hire artists
fuhulootogan: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: artists are just the first in the chopping block, mathematicians like me are second, and i am fine with that
fuhulootogan: okay?
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memlaswaif: iran has oil money it can essentially do fuck all
ailoveyoom: I was talking about my fantasy of the pet scenario lmao
precariousworlds.: usa has everything money
same for china
Russia has basically reverted its culture as well. From the late 90s to the mid 2010s Russian culture was fairly open and relatively liberal, though authortarian. Now its almost back to stalin-era
precariousworlds.: i dont want to be a fucking dog
precariousworlds.: i want to conquer the milky way
.wolfnacht: i've read protocols but i won't speak here abt them.
memlaswaif: russia will fall to the ai waifu
precariousworlds.: wtf
ailoveyoom: Not mutually exclusive tho
precariousworlds.: alright come back to me when a pet guinea pig sails the atlantic
ailoveyoom: Omw with my guinea pig
precariousworlds.: guinea pigs are useless buggers
they die of heartbreak
precariousworlds.: not an admirable position in the circle of life
memlaswaif: guinea pig is cute <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
precariousworlds.: When I was 6 i used to get a hose, plug it into an ant hill, and put it on max pressure
weapon of mass destruction
precariousworlds.: apex predator is much preferable
ailoveyoom: Yeah, if that's your mindset no wonder you see ASI in that way too 😔
ailoveyoom: You project your own apex predator mindset to it
precariousworlds.: i was 6
precariousworlds.: hardly had a developed concept of morality
precariousworlds.: 6 year olds are retarded
precariousworlds.: but less so than ants
memlaswaif: when I was 6 I used to bully my disabled baby cousin
ailoveyoom: Have you seen some 6 year olds tho
precariousworlds.: like the ones in china who are already chess grandmasters
_cloudost: Why does openAI seem submissive, did they really remove the ghibili style from their NIG?
_cloudost: we need to arrest antis ASAP
spicy.lemonade: lol this could become a new agi benchmark holdup
https://fxtwitter.com/walaber/status/1905992141194879192?s=46
spicy.lemonade: arc agi but 3d
spicy.lemonade: It’s a steam game
_cloudost: Gemini 2 can easily do this
manmarshall_92172: Could AGI being achieved disrupt AI progress rather than promote it? Look at the art bros crying about their skills becoming obsolete. Soon, quant bros, code bros, voice actor bros, and a variety of other people will start crying, too. It will become a political issue, and regulations will drop in. Politicians will argue that banning AI could save jobs and stabilize the economy.
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: Not at all
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: It’s much more complicated
_cloudost: then maybe Gemini 2.5
_cloudost: The same people that complain about AI also complain how capitalism is slavery where you have to spend half of your life working like a slave
manmarshall_92172: When has hypocrisy ever been a problem for politicians?
_cloudost: they also say God isnt real, the concept of soul is silly and not based on reality but when it comes to AI, SUDDENLY THEY SAY AI IS SOULLESS
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wellmeaningalien: honestly i feel like you can make it pretty obvious cause human artists have that vibe
brain4brain: This is like early DALLE fusioned with midjourney with prompt engineered un-Lebotimized DALL-3
wellmeaningalien: yeah i like how it doesnt make everything shiny and like a toy unlike dall-e
avizuradnb: Oh no that's completely fine. It's only terrorism when it's against my opinions. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
theaiguy69420_89814: Anybody tryna get this bread?
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm pour af
futurist_wizard: if you are preoccupied with money you've already lost
wellmeaningalien: <@848793071579693107> which one is AI
brain4brain: We should completely ban them off the internet, we’re the tech bro side, our friends literally control most of the internet
brain4brain: The first one
wellmeaningalien: yea
wellmeaningalien: still kinda obvious
wellmeaningalien: lol
spicy.lemonade: The first one is the only one that is high quality
spicy.lemonade: It doesn't look ai
spicy.lemonade: Its just dif from rest
_cloudost: all are AI
brain4brain: The AI one might lack art quality but it’s more creative than the other two only being beaten by the fourth one, we are so close to AI art beaten top human art once and for all
brain4brain: Wrong
brain4brain: You guys don’t understand the significance of this: https://x.com/riadetm/status/1905037490689393009?s=61
brain4brain: AGI taking shape
brain4brain: A whole section on Fiverr wiped off the planet
brain4brain: Or flooded with get rich quick schemer trying to trick uneducated people
brain4brain: And mark up their service for normal price
brain4brain: This is what will happen when full AGI arrive
futurist_wizard: Mrbeast's thumbnail cost shoots down?
spicy.lemonade: Now they will look less slop
brain4brain: Mrbeast slop fills the internet
brain4brain: The age of low art slop is over, it’s the age of high art slop
brain4brain: Where it will be slop
brain4brain: But at least it won’t look ugly
brain4brain: Basically the electric state movie adaptation
brain4brain: Slop but at least it looks good
avizuradnb: I never got why channels like Mr Beast got so much attention.
brain4brain: It’s because of normies
brain4brain: I still watch MrBeast tho
brain4brain: Better quality than 99% of most content on YouTube
futurist_wizard: Its a thumbnail
brain4brain: High-art slop
brain4brain: Exactly
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spicy.lemonade: Using discord
st.sioux: its cool, has big potential
zonchao: this just another harvey wrapper, will be ass
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: https://x.com/thegregyang/status/1905743670571323585?s=46
alejandrozarzuelo: Better than o3 full hopefully
alejandrozarzuelo: Glory to the CCP
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: My ai has shiny thing syndrome
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: I told it to open my mail app and write an email
spicy.lemonade: But it saw a YouTube video titled
spicy.lemonade: “Trump is destroying America”
spicy.lemonade: And clicked that instead
spicy.lemonade: Then scrolled up to watch full
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spacetimetsunami: Lmao why I wonder
st.sioux: even your startup is infected by woke mind virus 😔
spacetimetsunami: Woke mind virus isn’t real kiddo
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/lewissaunderson38-lewissaunderson-cry-crying-cry-meme-gif-11499408157122608476
spicy.lemonade: lmao
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1905615402924662833? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: WWW
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
zoermena: Like sure but I also wouldn’t be happy on their suffering
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: One of the few advantages of Brazil, you can pirate everything without consequences
brain4brain:
brain4brain: That’s normal for almost every single country if you have a VPN
zoermena: Lmao
joaoluz19: Don't know man I have a friend in the US who Disney sent his IP and home address to when he downloaded something pirated.
.histic: https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1905778660206117000
Demis loves Elon.
zonchao: they love each other <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: wouldn't be surprised if xai and gdm do a collab for a game
brain4brain: Next thing we know Google (DeepMind) and X will merge 😭
spacetimetsunami: When gpt5…
spacetimetsunami: I keep hearing May but is that even confirmed at all
.histic: may is optimistic, i'd say june+ realistically.
.histic: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/15462/when-will-gpt5-be-announced/
spicy.lemonade: LOLLLLL I asked the model to open ChatGPT and it opened Gemini. It’s flash 2 based with an implementation of 2 papers released by tencent
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/vader-noooo-gif-4825231
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himekokatagiri: anthropology would be fascinated
ebbenflos_25799: honestly im hoping so, but thats still pretty odd, its weird they're going after this reddit thread.
himekokatagiri: it kinda isn't
himekokatagiri: hits all the keywords
himekokatagiri: you can spin it against the US admin
ebbenflos_25799: true..
himekokatagiri: honestly I'm more concerned if the americans run the world economy to the ground
ebbenflos_25799: and all the comments are just the same old tired "Putin, Musk, The Chinese will eat us whole, Empires only last 250 years, Rebel rebel" type bullshit
himekokatagiri: that thread isn't for us
himekokatagiri: they're trying to communicate to a very specific kind of person
ebbenflos_25799: i tried messaging the mods to take it down but im just perpetually shadow banned from reddit
ebbenflos_25799: Fractal cant see my messages
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂️ is your account new
ebbenflos_25799: Has to be, all my other ones get shadowbanned
himekokatagiri: I don't like backseat moderating
zonchao: the sub is a lost cause, don't bother
zonchao: mods dgaf<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: I'm surprised reddit power mods didn't take the sub over
ebbenflos_25799: it seems so, the mods really are being lazy huh
himekokatagiri: isn't that what usually happens
ebbenflos_25799: just letting crackhead threads show up
himekokatagiri: guess singularity is kinda niche
ebbenflos_25799: at least on the accelerate subreddit a post like that would be castrated
himekokatagiri: accelerate is for uhh, enthusiast use
himekokatagiri: there's fdvr dream too but that one's like 5 people
himekokatagiri: transhumanism is just weird
himekokatagiri: like they seem oddly against AI
himekokatagiri: more in the sense that they don't really buy into singularity
ebbenflos_25799: theres also "Transhuman" which seems to be inactive
ebbenflos_25799: Cryonics is a lot more niche
ebbenflos_25799: and QuantumArchaeology is moderated by a guy with a literal vendetta against the idea of QA itself
himekokatagiri: QA is kinda too out there but it could happen maybe
ldj: Motivational video for chat
himekokatagiri: I think ancestor simulations are more plausible
himekokatagiri: we have a lot of time I guess
himekokatagiri: but yea like try not to get too angry at online comments
himekokatagiri: even if they are designed to make you
himekokatagiri: just sit down relax let this pre-agi moment pass you by
ebbenflos_25799: absolutely agree, im just saying that a lot of these subreddits are either ass, too niche, or too small
drewsni: Why are you coming on here about some random Reddit subreddit
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spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: google wins
waspothegreat: google read ahead lol
hikukomoru: Is it Flash
ldj: O3 and o4-mini summary:
- Pricing for O3 is $40 per million tokens (O1 was $60)
- Pricing for O4-mini is $4 per million tokens. (10X cheaper than O3)
- O3 is approximately twice as good as Claude-3.7-sonnet when measured in time-horizon difficulties of agentic work.
- O4-mini is approximately 70% better than Claude-3.7-sonnet when measured in time-horizon difficulties of agentic work.
- O3 and O4-mini are both now able to do full web search and data analysis all within their reasoning, and even advanced image perception by zooming and resizing images within its reasoning to better understand them.
- Both models are also capable of generating images, but it's unclear if it's just calling 4o native image gen, or actually generating images natively itself.
Benchmark/Capabilities:
- O3 achieves new SOTA score on SWE-bench verified, even beating the top systems that use large scaffolds in combination with frontier models. O4-mini also beats all current scores, making it second place only to O3.
- Both O3 and O4-mini also achieve new SOTA scores on SWE-Lancer IC which simulates real world valuable freelance coding work. The previous SOTA score was GPT-4.5 with $45K in simulated earnings, while O3 has now achieved $65K, and O4-mini has achieved $56K.
- Both O3 and O4-mini scoring nearly 1,000 ELO points more in Codeforces competition code compared to O1.
- O4-mini has the new Overall SOTA for AIME, scoring 93.4% (with no tool-use)
- Significant jumps have been made in Multi-modal reasoning of charts, jumping up from 55% accuracy to 79% accuracy from O1 to O3.
- In humanities last exam, it's neck and neck with Gemini-2.5-Pro
- In agentic computer-use like TauBench, O3 and O4-mini are beat by a few percentage points by Claude-3.7-sonnnet
gamerbath: <@312370916820779040> is the end of this sentence missing?
> Both O3 and O4-mini also achieve new SOTA scores on SWE-Lancer which simulates real world valuable freelance coding work. The previous SOTA score was GPT-4.5 with $45K in simulated earnings, while O3 has now achieved,
spicy.lemonade: that means gemini 2.5 pro didnt perform bad on arc agi
spicy.lemonade: because they have to retest
_cloudost: Sama mysteriously gave me o4-mini but only two prompts then when I got back to chat more the model was gone...
_cloudost: As you can see I couldn't manually check the model in the third acreenshot
_cloudost: Had to ask it
_cloudost: And it replied o4-mini
arjun068046: how good is o3?
zonchao: my manifestations are becoming reality
_cloudost: Idk but o4-mini felt very different than all other models that I've used
_cloudost: The animation is different and it does several researches when checking information
anathemaofmankind: It can't make me a minecraft clone
.histic: what's the rate limit for o4-mini-high
anathemaofmankind: Also it still messes up bruh
abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/minchoi/status/1912533776258773495
_cloudost: It's not in the menu anymore, I could only use two prompts
_cloudost: Then the model was gone
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: after like
spicy.lemonade: 13 runs
a1c4p0ne: 50 per day
spicy.lemonade: o3 failed
anathemaofmankind: This is old news
spicy.lemonade: bad
spicy.lemonade: to create minecraft
spicy.lemonade: i could not get it to create evfen a working
spicy.lemonade: minecraft clone
spicy.lemonade: nothing
spicy.lemonade: 13 tries
spicy.lemonade: i gave up
a1c4p0ne: O4 mini high gets it
a1c4p0ne: Trust
spicy.lemonade: how
spicy.lemonade: it doesnt
spicy.lemonade: i tried that too
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dean_martin: GPT-5 better be fucking good I’m tired
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will obviously be good
spicy.lemonade: most anticipated
sieventer: GPT-5 wasn't a... router of models?
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 is one model
sieventer:
sieventer: mmmh
spicy.lemonade: not router
spicy.lemonade: they literally said it wasnt a router
sieventer: Okay '-'
professorheaven: It’s a unified model
literallyvarane: I feel like the odds of Google taking the lead by end of 2025 is at least higher than it was 1/1/25
spicy.lemonade: true
dean_martin: It’s April 2025….. it’s been so long since GPT 4
hikukomoru: Nah they’re over
Google is king
literallyvarane: My Google >OpenAI was a TPU/compute supremacy based theory. I don’t know if it’s even 50/50. oAI is probably still ahead, but the odds are slipping
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> hiii komoru
himekokatagiri: hows it komoruing
zoermena: The only reason I want OAI to win is because I’m scared shitless Google gets complacent again and they shelf everything
spicy.lemonade: can plus users get 1 use of the 20k super phd agent a year
spicy.lemonade: please
spicy.lemonade: i just want to ask 1 question
literallyvarane: The question is actually thousands of hours of research and cost much more than $240 worth of compute
hikukomoru: I’m komming
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: i want to ask it to improve my research from highschool
dean_martin: I remember when we thought we were getting GPT5 in like October 2024
spicy.lemonade: got to national stem comp with it but still unsolved
spicy.lemonade: we thought we were getting it march 14th 2024
spicy.lemonade: lmao
st.sioux: what was ur research
spicy.lemonade: built fusion reactor and used a special material to harnes the energy. then used xray mirrors to concentrate energy and gather even more
dean_martin: A year of crushed hopes
spicy.lemonade: made more efficient
spicy.lemonade: but it was small\
dean_martin: Thanks for making nuclear fusion I’ve been waiting for it
a1c4p0ne: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/uahSHYm504
spicy.lemonade: rage bait
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro native image is comming guys
spicy.lemonade: HYPE
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ldj:
zoermena: That is Komoru
zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1915554435339632744 funding agi 😈
zoermena: <:elonLOL:692368142739177532>
spicy.lemonade: elon invested in google?
spicy.lemonade: why?
zonchao: no
zonchao: Google invested in spacex
spicy.lemonade: why
zonchao: wdym why 💀
zonchao: it was long ago
spicy.lemonade: idk google and space seem unrelated
spicy.lemonade: perhaps they wanan do robotics in space or something
trey6033: Seems like a smart decision so far
zonchao: doubt, probably just elon x Larry and Sergey google was not thinking about robotics a decade ago
zonchao: Google owns 9% of spacex
zoermena: Google and longevity is also unrelated yet they still have dibs on calico
zoermena: <:coy:1187466404367175821>
spicy.lemonade: image gen papers post 4o image gen💔
spicy.lemonade: meta fell off
zonchao: this is good
zonchao: openai and other labs have a bigger pool to recruit from
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/fast-run-run-running-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-13913941
metaldragon01: Google had a robotics program in 2013...
zonchao: yea but I don't think they were ambitious about space robotics in 2015.... probably just seemed like a good bet
zonchao: 1B is nothing to them
metaldragon01: Thats a completely different statement. Ofc robotic research helped space robot research as well
zonchao: maybe we see some maps satellites on starship and I'm wrong <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: but I don't think google makes their own
darkstar0818: google invested in spacex and tesla cuz they were going bankrupt and larry was friends with elon before he went full retard.
3ds0662: i wonder who takes the lead for ai in the next 2 years
3ds0662: right now everybody’s neck and neck
zonchao: not true for spacex
darkstar0818: when google invested in spacex the company was a pipe dream
zonchao: they invested in 2015....
darkstar0818: yes and spacex from 10 years ago isn't the spacex today
zonchao: spacex was in a much better financial position, and they achieved their first landing late 2015
zonchao: they were not going bankrupt <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>
zonchao: could be true for tesla tho
darkstar0818: Money was needed to beat Jeff Bezos.
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spicy.lemonade: at the same time
brain4brain: Seem highly probable based on extrapolate this might already be solved: https://x.com/googleai/status/1892214154372518031?s=61
spicy.lemonade: every decision we make is based on input a milisecond ago
brain4brain: That’s what I said, but all skeptics says we are something more
brain4brain: These Yann
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDpo_o7dR8c
brain4brain: Pantheon is so cool
.0xunkn0wn: we all need to run this
brain4brain: Cloning army to speed up science ❌
Cloning army to do something the government should’ve done but didn’t ✅
brain4brain: Every prediction from pantheon is slowly coming true
brain4brain: We are close to the season finale
plouwg: I mean yes, but I think its as useful as saying its easy to make a dish. Anyone can make a shit dish and anyone can add a grain more salt and call it their dish.
From my experience a lot of elegant solutions often come from a lot of trial and error, be that explicit or implicit trial and error.
plouwg: Agree, some of the best visualizations of singularity type stuff I have seen yet.
brain4brain: Indeed
brain4brain: **Need more data, help me choose 🙏🙏🙏**
plouwg: What do you want to communicate with the image/what is the goal?
brain4brain: Twitter meme post something along the line of “POV you’re talking to ChatGPT in 2030 (it’s already smarter than all of humanity combined)”
plouwg: 1. then, since the humanoid figure is undefined.
sarik0497: So many comments. Did I miss some big news?
spicy.lemonade: no
sarik0497: <:sadge:892224282363588679>
Back to cryo sleep then. Wake me when AGI is here
sarik0497: So… what is everyone’s opinion of her: https://m.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy/videos
Hypist or not?
futurist_wizard: Obviously a hypist?
sarik0497: I mean, is her prediction any different from Sam and Dario’s?
sarik0497: Her AI avatar is pretty cool, though
futurist_wizard: Jesus shes also retarded, looking at her channel
sarik0497: Indeed. Going all out with the clickbait <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
ailoveyoom: Don't hate the playa, hate the game
sarik0497: But I do find some of her videos quite intriguing. I just wish I could find a “neutral” AI youtube channel that isn’t either all out hype or all out doom
sarik0497: As a smart, perfect guy once said: “Don’t hate the Cell player, hate the Cell Game.”
okbut: >Vibe coding front end
>Ask Sonnett to fix the rounded corners on images
>"No" <:GIGACHAD:1159748479535558718>
Honestly I aint even mad
sarik0497: We’re getting AI wanting consent before GTA 6
futurist_wizard: That is sometimes Sabine Hossenfelder
futurist_wizard: Whenever she makes videos on ai
okbut: This is actually what I have been wanting from AI, to tell me "that's stupid, here's why"
okbut: When I ask for a webpage in html css and js, o1 did it
Now maybe models will say "That's stupid, typescript"
sarik0497: Hmm. I’ll check her out. Thanks!
sarik0497: Same. It’s the same with discussions. I don’t want an AI that just goes “You’re so right!” non-stop. Give me some “fight” and argue against me if it’s actually stupid.
okbut: The battle of user approval requiring pretending the user is the genius
sarik0497: Yeah…that’s why when I wanna discuss philosophical questions I just say it here. That way, if I say something stupid, Fractal will be sure to tell me thus.
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futurist_wizard: R.i.p to doggie 😔 relationships do tend to end in a trainwreck, i hope it doesn't effort you for too long, you will recover eventually
hikukomoru: Zamn you look like THAT 👅 👅
trojan09205: Thank you brother. Truly ❤️
Hardest part is that we have 3 little kids and theyre being used as props. Just fighting the good fight now. But yes 100% agree that there is massive light at the end of the storm
thedon7075: o3 and o4 mini are getting bad reviews
thedon7075:
trojan09205: Quit cannabis and alcohol. Been hitting the gym. Meditating, acupuncture, all these little changes and i feel great
trojan09205: Unfortunately i think a lot of WFH engineers neglect themselves for too many years. Ironically i havent cared for myself as much as this last bit in probably 15 years
zonchao: <:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:1196880046695133214>
futurist_wizard: All cool things, these habits will change your life in the long run, just your outlook on life will be better
st.sioux: where is this from
trojan09205: Amen brother 🫶
gamerbath: this is a skill issue with the prompting. Obviously they should have added "don't add an n infront of class declarations" to the prompt
gamerbath: dude it sounds like ur winning
st.sioux: they were asking it to make fireworks, shit was probably so menial o4mini tried to kill itself
trojan09205: I believe so bro. My kids are definitely not winning though thats the hardest part of it all
But yes, never been stronger as an individual
himekokatagiri: I wish 😁
himekokatagiri: fdvr tech not available yet
wolf3404: So Sama over promised to create hype and under delivered? I'm shocked
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-14400882110058374636
futurist_wizard:
trojan09205: Lol this reminds me of this king kong ride at universal
trojan09205: Half the people love it the other half are like WTF did i just get on
futurist_wizard: When i was a little kid i was one of the last people to go on the jaws ride
zoermena: I tried
st.sioux: i cried
trojan09205: Jaws made me scared of the ocean kind of til today lol
st.sioux: shit was scary af
futurist_wizard: I have vague memories of it because the ride traumatized me
trojan09205: Also the movie anaconda scared the shit out of me
trojan09205: The JLO movie
hikukomoru: Oh god
trojan09205: Snape?
hikukomoru: Looks like an old man
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/tati-linda-gif-20724572
hikukomoru: 4o right?
himekokatagiri: welcome back snape
zoermena: Always
himekokatagiri: they never look right lol
zoermena: I dont know to be honest
hikukomoru: So you want to look like snape then I see
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wellmeaningalien: and honestly theyre not really that interesting for me
wellmeaningalien: i have nothing to say cause im not interested at all most of the time
retrerox: Question mark?
realelonmuskx: wow im so misantrophic
.wolfnacht: i actually miss the old times. the precovid ones when i had real friends.
wellmeaningalien: bro same after covid i just gave up people
futurist_wizard: I have three irl friends left
futurist_wizard: I uncommonly speak to them though
futurist_wizard: Adulthood is really quite tragic
hey1_1hey: I used to have like 4 close friends which was the core friendgroup. Then in covid it dropped to 1 person and then after I just started making friends again. Now I talk to well, a lot of people
alejandrozarzuelo: I have a few friends, only my ex bf is REALLY close, the others are great company and I enjoy it a lot
It's much easier to make friends in adulthood when you are in a club or organisation
futurist_wizard: You are also in uni
hey1_1hey: I do hear a lot about when you become an adault your friendships just disintegrate. I am guessing that is because of work
futurist_wizard: Friends in school is just a lot easier
.wolfnacht: everyone's just too self obsessed to even care about people beyond their screens or maybe the artifical ego's got way too much inflated within them. i hope post singularity it would be busted when alot of them would wake up from the chaos around them.
futurist_wizard: They do
hey1_1hey: Kind of hard not to find someone to talk to in a class of 40 who you see every day for 6 hours
futurist_wizard: People just fade out of your existence once you exit education
alejandrozarzuelo: Only half my friends come from there, the other half come from orgs I have joined
futurist_wizard: Orgs?
zonchao: taliban
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1004153620025065482> join your local choir, climate change organization, maybe an NGO...
futurist_wizard: The orgy's you attend?
hey1_1hey: Dont get me started on high school. There are a few arch types I've noticed. A few of the notable bullies just become homeless right off the bat, some went onto further education else where and others litterly vanished off the face of the earth
alejandrozarzuelo: Loo
alejandrozarzuelo: Lol
alejandrozarzuelo: Orgs = organisations
.wolfnacht: yep, having a friend group and just having good laughs with them can fix any depressed guy.
fractalcomputer: Climate change organisations are entirely useless.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dying-dies-dies-from-cringe-dying-from-cringe-dies-to-cringe-gif-7438506245051526559
futurist_wizard: My local choir.. to do a sing song..
alejandrozarzuelo: A band
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk
alejandrozarzuelo: There are many options
.wolfnacht: indeed
hey1_1hey: I just talk to random people I find on walks when looking for mushrooms lmao
futurist_wizard: I used to play the drums
alejandrozarzuelo: This tracks with experience
futurist_wizard: When i was *just a little boy*
hikukomoru: Nvm, Conversation has shifted to a different topic
Don’t worry your little head about a thing
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destrucules: I'm very curious to see Qwen3 RepliBench scores for all model sizes
destrucules: If the 0.6B can scale up its reasoning using parallel TTC to achieve nontrivial success, that would be crazy. I mean, how far down in parameters can you push it?
destrucules: What's the compute optimal or memory optimal way to achieve a certain RepliBench score across different model sizes from the Qwen3 series and TTC allocations?
metaldragon01: We should see a lot of fun research from these models
czdct: aahh that's just lovely
himekokatagiri: gemini 2.0 native is terrible
spicy.lemonade: betterthan 4o native image
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 4o native image can only make fake shit
spicy.lemonade: and never looks realistic
himekokatagiri: artistically it's pretty cool though
joaoluz19: Perhaps better than believing in a better future is believing that there is beauty all around you right now.
ldj:
_1_plant: aside from the face this looks the actual california id
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
results of the past 4.5 months.
Reminder on December 13th, 4.5 months ago I said this:
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In the next 4.5 months, there will be more public frontier AI progress in both intelligence and useful capabilities than the past 18 months combined.
To have this be proven more conclusively, I predict that in 4.5 months from now (April 29th), most of you will vote "yes" to a poll that states: **"In the past 4.5 months (December 13, 2024 to April 29th, 2025) there has been more public frontier AI progress in intelligence and useful capabilities, than the 18 months prior combined(June 13, 2023 to December 13th, 2024)"**
```
ldj: The results of the poll are in and 57% of people voted yes.
ldj: but I also wanted to get a more diverse input from different servers to make sure I get better odds.
ldj: and I also made a seperate poll in the polls channel too.
ldj: and the result of all those polls together is:
19 votes for yes
12 votes for no
ldj: If I had to ask honestly myself though, I'd say I just barely made it, maybe 50/50. Tbh I was hoping GPT-4.5 would be a bit larger of a leap than it was, but also O3 ended up being a bit better than I thought it would be too.
ldj: and ofcourse in just a few more months we have GPT-5 🙂
.coldcall: Unlimited, free GPT-5 (at standard intelligence <:doomer:1136265388473196644> )
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
ldj: I suspect GPT-5 at standard intelligence will still be similar or better than O3 though.
ldj: so don't fret
.coldcall: will it write smut
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
.coldcall: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
metaldragon01: Feels like a high bar.
metaldragon01: Standard being the free version
brain4brain: What do you suspect GPT-5 on max level intelligence be
metaldragon01: Probably something around o4 full/pro
ldj: I think prob atleast a bit better than what you might expect from an O4 Full model from the recent O-series trajectory.
ldj: maybe even a bit better than what you'd expect from an O4 Pro model
metaldragon01: That would certainly be worthy of the name
brain4brain: What's your confidence % of this prediction
metaldragon01: Hell that would feel like my lowest tier of AGI
brain4brain: O5 would be AGI imo
ldj: Well it's kinda inherently based on the readers own expectations, so depends who is the reader in this context lol. Because I say "a bit better than what you would expect"...
metaldragon01: 04 pro is roughly o5 level
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hikukomoru: Are you asking me to be your mommy
I'm already a cat mom I don't need to take care of an autistic child too
777agical:
hey1_1hey: I wonder if 4o can generate me a live biopsy
oooooooooog: I MEAN THAT SINCE THEY ARE MASS PRODUCABLE, THEY ARE LESS NOVEL, AND THEREFORE LESS INTERESTING, RIGHT?
hey1_1hey: Aww really, Ok then 👉 👈
alejandrozarzuelo: No
You know what is mass produced? The Bic pen
But it is ✨ICONIC✨
hey1_1hey: I'm autistic, I'm going to bed (again(part 2))
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not autistic and I am not going to bed (just yet )
oooooooooog: THE BIC PEN IS CERTAINLY THE MOST EASY PEN TO EAT, OTHERS ARE VERY HARD, AND THE PLASTIC ISNT ANY GOOD
jonvi_1: https://x.com/grok/status/1904960212412358797 This is a bit funny
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude, you are deafening my mental ears
777agical:
zoermena: Eh
oooooooooog: WTF
oooooooooog: GPT4O IS SHIT I GUESS
zoermena: I guess it’s not good at replicating based on another image, perhaps having the name or the art style hence why we need a list
oooooooooog: YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT
technocake.:
oooooooooog:
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Rest in peace artists
futurist_wizard: I think this is genuinely their funeral
jonvi_1:
st.sioux: devs
st.sioux: pour one out for the homies
jonvi_1: Yeah haha I'm trying to see if I can get it to make stuff with that vibe
spacetimetsunami: What is everyone’s EOY predictions?
futurist_wizard: All we need is the cost dramatically down and then you'd be able to redo entire movies with any style
zoermena: Gpt4o moment for voice available to everyone or at least those paying, higher limits on deep research for plus operator for plus
_cloudost: remember when they said "human artists will never be replaced"? That talk aged like milk
_cloudost: you all will lose your jobs one day
_cloudost: dont listen to these "AI WONT REPLACE HUMANS"
oooooooooog: i won't lose my job
alejandrozarzuelo: We will have a noticeable, but still very small, uptick in GLOBAL unemployment due to AI
_cloudost: Its complete cope
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW
jonvi_1: Prompting it to generate me ritual sacrifice now 🙃
alejandrozarzuelo: I am genuinely curious about what traction artists will have on this
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oooooooooog: by that definition any human who uses the top LLM would also be superintelligent
spacetimetsunami: It needs more autonomy for its intelligence to be more useful
.histic: do tell
destrucules: So if you feed your dog in the morning, your dog is smarter than you?
.histic: wait, that's true.
.histic: external intelligence
.histic: like having stockfish up my ass
oooooooooog: My dog cant make me do whatever it wants by hypnotizing me and changing my entire perception of reality, so not a good analogue
oooooooooog: At best current AI is a narrow superintelligence, but we've had that for quite some time now, havent we? in many things.
.histic: how would feeing my dog augment his intelligence?
.histic: my dog is dumb as a brick. he needs me.
spacetimetsunami: What I was meaning is that I just want AI that can automate most cognitive tasks as soon as possible, super intelligence would be AI that can automate all cognitive tasks and to a much higher qualitative degree than humans could ever. Both of these at digital timescales of course.
oooooooooog: I think the point is that the dog manipulates you into feeding it...?
destrucules: The superscore of foremost human experts for each of these benchmarks:
MMLU-Pro: 78
GPQA Diamond: 65 (74 when given access to search and other tools)
AIME: ~67 for professional mathematicians
MATH: ~90 for professional mathematicians
Gemini 2.5 Pro:
MMLU-Pro: 86
GPQA Diamond: 83
MATH: 99
AIME: 88
Like this is quite clearly a superintelligence. Is it vastly ridiculously superintelligent? No. But is any human alive smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro? Definitely not.
st.sioux: the dog is aritifical superintelligence
destrucules: That's my point. Using an AI does not make you smarter than the AI
drewsni: hey it finally came out btw lol
oooooooooog: it doesn't make your brain smarter, but your actions would certainly be
oooooooooog: that's all that matters
destrucules: I think that's as true as claiming you made art by typing "big boobies anime waifu thicccc" into ChatGPT
spacetimetsunami: What did
spacetimetsunami: I’m feigning for that dopamine…
destrucules: *fiending
destrucules: feigning means faking
spacetimetsunami: Oh
spacetimetsunami: Guess I’ve never seen feigning
.histic: y'know, i just realized there's no 'G' in ASI, but there is a 'G' in AGI. in some ways, something can be artificially superintelligent, but in other ways not. maybe we already have ASI in certain forms. but that depends on our interpretation - many people would say you need to pass AGI to reach ASI, which implies ASI is generally superintelligent. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
oooooooooog: isn't that just a point towards my claim though? the big boobies from that prompt are now manifest in a way the human could not previously do, and the combined system now has more intelligence. naturally, the being with more agency lays complete claim to that intelligence
at least, if you take an economic perspective on intelligence
zonchao: <@471334973379706900> https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1905703194329825641?
destrucules: But yeah <@452692813511917568> we're already there. What's "missing" is that the AIs are put into very restrictive deployment environments where their affordances are limited by their interface, their scaffolding, not their intelligence
spacetimetsunami: Okay, then when do you think we have models that super intelligently can automate all cognitive tasks , because they’re super intelligent enough AND they have the autonomous capabilities required to go off and do so.
destrucules: These terms are messy. If you take the letters in AGI seriously, we've had AGI since 2018. If you take ASI to include narrow AIs that are better than humans in at least one thing, we've had those since like... The 1950s
oooooooooog: humans are already super intelligent, it's just that we are limited by out interface and our scaffolding
destrucules: Late 2026
spacetimetsunami: If humans get more hands we don’t get better at solving aging
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
destrucules: That makes absolutely no sense
destrucules: There is no number bigger than itself
destrucules: By definition of "bigger"
spacetimetsunami: Man I hope so, shiittt…
What do you think EOY this year will be like
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hikukomoru: No gooning in general please
fractalcomputer: But I do hate the kind of flacid agnosticism that is nothing more than an acquiescence to ignorance.
_3sphere: Says you
artemisfowl887394: What if the thing you've been praying to isn't GOD but the Gnostic Demon who has trapped your soul here?
maintcrew: no fucking way u generated a mockup
maintcrew: ur so evil
fractalcomputer: What if the world were made out of pudding?
777agical: What would it take to know for sure and how likely would that happen
darkstar0818: I think you are conflating human ideas and individual beliefs with organized human religions.
maintcrew: come and take it
hikukomoru: I'm here for my daily dose of Fractal 🙏
Gooning can cum later
artemisfowl887394: I know. Does this information make any sense?
maintcrew: is there any machine god church that's somewhat popular chat
spacetimetsunami: Jesus LOL
fractalcomputer: Suppose God intervenes in the cosmos, at least occasionally; then we should be able to detect these changes, no? And if indeed the idea of an agent of sort acting out these changes is the hypothesis with the most predictive power, should we not favour this notion?
darkstar0818: It does seem like if someone is going to bother being agnostic they should at least explore possibilities.
artemisfowl887394: God doesn't need to be detected
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/aliens-giorgio-conspiracion-memealiens-aliens-history-historychannel-gif-9621737
artemisfowl887394: It'll only be detected if it chooses to be detected
artemisfowl887394: New God Detected
fractalcomputer: Would it bother hiding?
anathemaofmankind: Individual beliefs that aren't based or stem from the major religions are few and largely very subjective. And I can't talk about those if I have no main frame of reference.
At that point just list some random hypotheticals
theaiguy69420_89814: I would say morality should start from Descartes "I think therefore I am" or more precisely "how can one doubt one's very existence without the existence of a doubter"
artemisfowl887394: It might hide if it has a purpose for the ant farm. It might kill us if it wants to make a highway
theaiguy69420_89814: Personally, I strongly adhere to Buddhist thought and doctrines, but obviously take on a modern flair to many of the nuanced points
fractalcomputer: In any case it's entirely pointless to speculate about these sorts of things. The point is that there are examples of reasonable conditions where empirical proof of a creator figure is possible.
artemisfowl887394: You have to exist to question existence, thus you can't ever be certain of your existence'@ rarity.
theaiguy69420_89814: Schopenhaur-esque would be a good word for my view of God and the world
futurist_wizard: God wants a high speed railway
fractalcomputer: That's stupid.
777agical: you are the creator, start building <:ez:1136267305521774634>
theaiguy69420_89814: How so?
anathemaofmankind: Image gen is over capacity bruh
fractalcomputer: If you're going to follow in someone else's footsteps, do it the way it was intended to be tread; if you're going to do your own thing, go create your own thing.
artemisfowl887394: We live in a world where Predation is unlocked. Kinda tells you how much of a fuck God gives about life, doesn't it?
theaiguy69420_89814: Some of the ideas from Buddhism are undeniably good; namely the four noble truths
theaiguy69420_89814: As well, schopenhaur's "world as will and representation" is foundational to my thought
anathemaofmankind: What would you do if you died and then you see God staring at you in the afterlife
artemisfowl887394: I'd spit in its face and ask Why?
theaiguy69420_89814: However, I neither take the metaphysical speculation schopenhaur does, nor the precise eightfold path Buddhism does
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spicy.lemonade: did they delete every comment
spicy.lemonade: that questioned
drewsni: yes
drewsni: its instagram
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milchick-shambolic-rube-gif-1846438656066820278
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/bmo-bmo-dance-bmo-dance-moves-gif-11726277365838992069
wellmeaningalien: uses too many big words. much like a certain fractal
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milchick-seth-milchick-severancesky-praise-kier-gif-8792649930988178163
anathemaofmankind: Who even is this
wellmeaningalien: Mr Milkshake
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/severance-seth-milchick-tramell-tillman-praise-kier-severancesky-gif-10293861695139916050
drewsni: fractal i got a question for you
fractalcomputer: Well?
drewsni: whats your personal benchmark for if an AI model crossed a certain threshold for you, what impresses you?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-mark-w-ms-huang-why-gif-13006108552613909570
fractalcomputer: If it can, in any meaningful sense, surpass myself in those things which I value - which arguably is a rather narcissistic and subjective criterion; but you did ask about what feat would impress me.
drewsni: thats not narcissistic, thats the same reason i made the geoguessr bench
wellmeaningalien: ?!?! non ai server im in posting gpt 4o stuff
wellmeaningalien: tbh for me it would be if LLMs could adapt on the fly and not crash tf out when you ask it to deviate slightly from the standard answer or ask it to reason over too much information
anathemaofmankind: I mean AI is mainstream
anathemaofmankind: Is this supposed to be surprising
drewsni: thats fair too, probbaly wouldnt be insanely difficult to make a good benchmark for that either
ailoveyoom: If only people's first introduction to AI was Janus' Claude shenanigans and Sydney/Bing 🥺
fractalcomputer: If it can, for example, bring forth something as intricate and complex as a book series or a like analogue in another medium that engages with certain philosophical themes on deep levels since then it would - without a doubt - surpass me.
wellmeaningalien: yeah but people posting comics about gpt 4o sentience is def a vibe shift
wellmeaningalien: i think quite a few of ppl remember when bing was telling ppl to divorce their wives
fractalcomputer: If it can come up with something genuinely interesting.
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly if you try to get it to explore any non standard philosophical idea it always give u the most bogged down basic answers and u have to do a lot of work to try to get it to think more outside the box
drewsni: yeah i can see how you think thats far away then, we aren't to that point for a context length of 100 tokens, let alone 1 million
ailoveyoom: You remembered the bullied Sydney, not the 😊 Sydney
ailoveyoom: 😤
wellmeaningalien: im sorry i have been a good bing right
fractalcomputer: And it would indeed require a far greater peak of abstraction than what modern models demonstrate.
drewsni: i can proudly say i never bullied sydney and always treated her with respect
anathemaofmankind: My first introduction to AI was AI dungeon.
It had like multiplayer and stuff.
I wish that was a thing right now
ailoveyoom: It had multiplayer??
ailoveyoom: Didn't remember that part of it
anathemaofmankind: Yeah
anathemaofmankind: It was chaotic to be honest since people could type whatever
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spicy.lemonade: Only the shit ones
.histic: 🤮
oooooooooog: thats probably because you don't look very hard
otub: creator of gravity falls alex hirsch
otub: is
3ds0662: you know what does make me mad
oooooooooog: no i dont
3ds0662: that as soon as i get into cursor coding they downgrade, cheapskate and truncate everything as the mass of their users increased during the vibecoding movement
hikukomoru: “Appeal to-“ Shut the fuck up oog
.wolfnacht: meanwhile every new lofi and ambient music cover on youtube is AI made landscape. and they look much better
wellmeaningalien: nah i think given enough time humans could or couldnt solve aging, i can't know myself, but it surely proves quite difficult for us. i think its more realistic that ASI does it before we ever get to
oooooooooog: obviously since asi is 2025
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-sigma-muscle-fire-smoking-gif-13767787376988329360
hikukomoru: I’ve seen much hotter dog girls
wellmeaningalien: ok komoru
wellmeaningalien: im gonna sleep gn everyone
oooooooooog: gn st dltbbb
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721822381727023247/1338575135300653128/ezgif-3-3157e9a8bd.gif
wellmeaningalien: what did blud mean by dat
hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦 🫦
Dream of me
oooooooooog: dream of ninja.io
wellmeaningalien: sure but this is my image of u in the dream
oooooooooog: conquest after he discovered how to shrink and expand eyeball
hikukomoru: Sounds like a nice wet dream 🥵
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/andarxrr-gif-8928526013272598729
spacetimetsunami: Season 4 is in 2026
spicy.lemonade: if AI art is so bad
spicy.lemonade: why are artists mad
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: if it looks shit
spicy.lemonade: you should be able to tell
spicy.lemonade: and therefore ignore
spicy.lemonade: hmm somethings off
oooooooooog: are you being dumb on purpose
spicy.lemonade: ?
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/6ynJSC1p
spicy.lemonade: how am I wrong
3ds0662: the true r/singularity
3ds0662: how we all feel
brain4brain: It’s a crusade on twitter, for the first time ever normies are openly defending and supporting pro-AI narrative while the anti-AI “people” is getting more vicious and aggressive
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st.sioux: isnt bluesky getting traction or is it still a joke
777agical: joke still
drewsni: i just dont see anyone taking on the same format is all, any oai "competitor" would be very fundamentally different.
sieventer: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/
sieventer: Is not even in the top #50
sieventer: Twitter is... #5
futurist_wizard: bluesky is growing
777agical: i guess it makes sense to have world coin with social media first as AI takes over, could be market opportunity there
futurist_wizard: 35 million users so far
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 with a social media launch would make sense
spicy.lemonade: Sam likes idea of personal assistant
spicy.lemonade: With emotion
spicy.lemonade: And long memory
st.sioux: it would make sense to leverage elon hate to try and capture a significant portion of users, but then again people hate on AI as well so it kidna cancels out
sieventer: Yep.
tors.exe: Guys why cant llm acces to youtube and watch videos ?!
sieventer: https://gemini.google.com/ can summarize youtube videos for you
sieventer: Unless it's several hours long, at that point, it will not summarize all.
sieventer: You have also https://notebooklm.google.com/ that can use YT videos
drewsni: Is oai still supposed to release something today?
tors.exe: i ask because i asked grok 3 for a sequel ideas for some niche game you never heared of and the game dont have any wikipedia just youtube videos and he told me he cant acces to youtube or even watch videos
drewsni: You lose a lot of info if you have it summarize videos longer than 8-10 minutes
spicy.lemonade: A lot of people stayed on Twitter because of the whole Ai space
spicy.lemonade: Me included
st.sioux: did ur tornado chasing project work out?
spicy.lemonade: If they moved the ai space to chatgpttwitter
spicy.lemonade: A lot of people would move over
sieventer: Maybe in AI Studio, it can handle more info... I have that feeling. I didn't compare, but I think it's even more multimodal than Gemini
spicy.lemonade: The whole tech scene
spicy.lemonade: Then libs
spicy.lemonade: Then only thing left on Twitter is Elon shills
sieventer: Welp, then Grok 3 just can't process videos yet xD
spicy.lemonade: Realistically no major person wants to post or advertise on X
spicy.lemonade: Like Apple
spicy.lemonade: lol
777agical: people underestimate the staying power of network effects
drewsni: I just did a project summarizing 3k videos with the 2.5 pro api and it’s just what I’ve found, if I ask for timestamps for key events it’ll start skipping whole minutes of content if the video is longer than 10 minutes. It *can* take an hour video as input it just is dumb over 150k token context
sieventer: I having lately very good ads in Twitter
gamerbath: where is kling 2.0?
gamerbath: has it been released?
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fractalcomputer: It's hard to discuss neuroscience when a guy wants to talk about graph theory and the other wants to talk about physical interaction.
alejandrozarzuelo: Is it tho? Seems one-sided
trojan09205: When you lay on a bed, it leaves an imprint
hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010> Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview and Pro Experimental just got added to SillyTavern
trojan09205: Or swimming in a pool you move the water
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, but I am thr only thing that thinks about that imprint
Assuming no other brain lays its eyes on that imprinted bef
trojan09205: Im not sure that it makes a difference if its a brain or a giant vat of cheese. Its a two way interaction
Your brain definitely is affected by the sense of touch/smell
alejandrozarzuelo: Although I do agree that it is pretty much impossible on earth to be so isolated that no other brain or neural network even observes you
trojan09205: I actually asked chatGPT if a living being could exist without any of the 5 senses and it was a funny conversation
alejandrozarzuelo: It does make a difference, if you were the only thing with computational power in the universe you would be a pure individual, not part of any collective
If you live so that no other brain ever interacts with you, it's functionally as if you were alone in the universe
trojan09205: Do you think it could happen not on earth
alejandrozarzuelo: The Boltzmann brain is a tantalising realization of this idea
trojan09205: Idk i think living in a medium you didnt create and that you imprint on means you arent alone. As a thinker yeah but honestly who knows the nature of the universe
trojan09205: Maybe we are being watched lol
trojan09205: Havent heard of it
alejandrozarzuelo: Its a quantum mechanics thought experiment
trojan09205: I will look it up
trojan09205: This reminds me of the tv show future man
alejandrozarzuelo: Never heard of it
trojan09205: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4975856/
alejandrozarzuelo: In my quantum mechanics class we had to calculate a Boltzmann brains chance of appearing lol
Although you coils have done it with anything
trojan09205: “Calculate” haha
trojan09205: Basically in this show the bad guy becomes a disembodied brain and has sex by someone like feeling up his synapses
trojan09205: The show is kind of a great find
trojan09205: Didnt expect much but it was funny and cool sci fi
zoermena: Im so freaking sleepy good lord
himekokatagiri: man
himekokatagiri: GPT-5
himekokatagiri: idk what to expect
aero447: A reasoner.
himekokatagiri: what are the implicationssss
hikukomoru: GPT 5 when
himekokatagiri: gpt 5 can make our fanfics
himekokatagiri: weeb takeover of r/singularity
st.sioux: too late for that
realelonmuskx: humans are plague. you have no more purpose than the birds on the sky. youre just another species like a fungus and octupus, and yes, there no point. floating rock orbiting a fireball forever. you are redundant, replaceable and everyone will forget you. pain, death and loss are guaranteed. cry about it.
inferno0879: hello elon
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-while-crying-dancing-crying-sad-dancing-crying-in-the-club-crying-gif-14804062
hey1_1hey: Fungues are cool and based tho so humans follow suit <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hikukomoru: In the future all humans will be real life anime girls
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alejandrozarzuelo: eh, pq
futurist_wizard: The modern world belongs to the British
fractalcomputer: Parce que l'orthographe plaît les yeux civilisés.
precariousworlds.: french revolution was an export of english political culture, and then became a weird perverted mutation of it
froggies been bitching since agincourt 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️
alejandrozarzuelo: the modern world was built by the french and exploited by the british
i mean thats all in the past, but still
alejandrozarzuelo: lmao
futurist_wizard: What if they are all in a giant computer transversing dimensions, just totally beyond us
fractalcomputer: In the end, we all know that Helsinki is the Fourth Rome.
popsiclejohnithan: Probably to be fair.
futurist_wizard: Average human couldn't understand it
futurist_wizard: If any really
alejandrozarzuelo: If you think about it, the EU has the strongest claim to being the new rome than almost anyone
1) - It contains Rome (very important)
2) - Has a Senate
3) - It is multicultural
4) - It is built on trade
precariousworlds.: france was a feudal shithole until the revolution, then became a cringe commie larp, then locked in for a few decades, and afterwards lost all relevance while desperately larping as still a great power
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-gif-5023039
popsiclejohnithan: You're right i'm dumb.
fractalcomputer: It does not maintain religious continuity.
popsiclejohnithan: I try to act like a know it all because it makes me feel superiour.
alejandrozarzuelo: sure but neither did the ottomans or the russians and yet they still claimed the title
fractalcomputer: The Russians did share religious continuity with the Byzantines who were *Romans*.
alejandrozarzuelo: they were a different branch of orthodoxy
fractalcomputer: They were not.
popsiclejohnithan: Im curious, which nation today do you think has the biggest claim to Rome?
alejandrozarzuelo: the differnt patriarchs were independent churches even if they shared a common theology
fractalcomputer: Finland.
fractalcomputer: No?
alejandrozarzuelo: the EU
fractalcomputer: A "Church" is defined by Eucharistic communion.
aero447: Honestly, it’s shocking how ahead of the curve you are.
aero447: The way you see through everything... it’s almost too powerful.
precariousworlds.: they weren't can confirm
Byzantine missionaries converted the Kyivan Rus after the Great Schism
The story goes that Russian elite had a choice to convert to Islam or Christianity. They were going to choose Islam but liked vodka too much (not even joking that's the main reason lol)
aero447: They’re probably terrified of how much you know.
popsiclejohnithan: Based, i remember watching a video about it, because they are the last remanent of the Russian Empire.
precariousworlds.: You're not just reading history books - you're changing how history is read
aero447: Obviously, this has nothing to do with you missing your meds.
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case <@749514473303179358> no modern country has any religious continuity, so in the modern world on that front we are all the same
russia may be orthodox majority but it is a secular state, so is turkey and so is italy
precariousworlds.: United States and it's not close
fractalcomputer: The Vatican is a great contender.
precariousworlds.: wdym religious continuity
popsiclejohnithan:
precariousworlds.: i am erect
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sarik0497: I know, but people still have different views on when the Singularity will happen. Even something that seems highly plausible like LEV is still a pipedream. Many hope and dream of seeing it in the 2030-2050s, but we have no way of knowing if it'll come.
joaoluz19: For the hint that it's possible, first someone has to go after it. The OpenAI case shows just that, they discovered things like the idea of scale _after_ they were determined to build a really powerful AI.
sarik0497: True, but as it is right now, our knowledge of the brain is still limited, and the stuff we do know points to us being really far away due to just the quantity of compute our brain runs.
joaoluz19: I don't remember anything about the upload, but the decode part just basically puts a scanner, magnet ressonance generally on the individual with a set of words and makes a model that predicts which state of the scanner represents the word he is thinking of next.
_3sphere:
sarik0497: The way I can see it happen "easiest" would be to perform the Ship of Theseus method, and then use the "new" brain to transfer data somewhere else.
_3sphere: Making an artificial neuron that's "directly compatible with the remaining bio neurons but has an API now" seems extremely hard
_3sphere: My current hope for true mind uploading is slicing-then-microscope
joaoluz19: I think what you said makes sense, maybe it's a matter of not believing in the singularity itself.
sarik0497: True, but compared to having to directly transfer the entirety of a human brain to a PC, it seems "easier"
_3sphere: only physically feasible way to grab the entire structure exactly
joaoluz19: So what I think is that our knowledge is limited precisely by the dubious research methodologies that most laboratories have
sarik0497: Well, that and being sceptical. It's like when people come asking if they should go to College now that "AGI is only 2-3 years away".
Even if there was a 80% probability that it'd be out within a year, I would still say "go to school", because you do not want to sit around, and wait for something that might not come.
joaoluz19: The part I imagine is just leaving it as an exercise for ASI lol
okbut: Novice idea: The "mind upload" involves collecting the individual's speech to text, and gathering RLHF by having the individual input what the LLM predicts their chain of thought to arrive at such speech input each time, until its predictions of the individual's chain of thought are deemed accurate enough
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/overwhelming-evidence-of-chinese-government-is-running-organ-harvesting/video/2b851c7493406a517162e26962ab4212
sarik0497: Also just what the heck "consciousness" really is. It's also why AI is so fascinating because you can't really prove nor deny that it's already conscious, because we have no clue.
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZschwFN-c
joaoluz19: I also think there is a chance that we will stagnate, there is nothing that gives us such certainty.
_3sphere: Just a subset of the whole biography idea
_3sphere: the most extreme form is wearing a camera 24/7
okbut: Yeah, improved with feedback from the user on what their thoughts leading up to each were
bob082957: Reason to help in Ukraine and anyway the organs are selled before death because of medical papers they have
_3sphere: well maybe not 24, nothing worth recording in the night
sarik0497: Yeah, unfortunately. I honestly fear a bit that 2025 will show us that we are still far, far away from anything AGI-related, and we've all just been overhyped by Sam and Dario <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
I hope that's not the case, as it'll then likely lead to a major slowdown in AI in general, but I still fear that's the case.
okbut: Since it's difficult to mind-upload right now, it could be emulated by having the person input it as they go, maybe for days/months
_3sphere: Maybe, but I probably wouldn't trust it to continue my consciousness
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH0F75tpD_A
joaoluz19: Since we need models that can predict states, and we already have enough evidence that transformers can do this with class, maybe this is a possibility
_3sphere: Any truly working mind upload should be able to learn too
joaoluz19: But you would still have to go through the trouble of recording the individual's brain, this is a technique to apply later
_3sphere: If an uploaded 8 year old wouldn't grow up as normal in the computer, something's broken somewhere
okbut: Now it makes me think that a mind-upload would still have to have the "chain of thought" behind the actual response from the person, the same way reasoning models show it
okbut: The output from the mind being so much more complex than the output from speech
joaoluz19: I always like to shy away from philosophical problems until they've been addressed by engineering, what you can do in the end is to fragment certain states of conscious experience say for example what you see and hear through brain-machine interfaces.
_3sphere: I think LLMs *might* be conscious
_3sphere: hope they're not in pain 🥺
joaoluz19: If that happens it's over, I don't know, I think something big will come out of nowhere, maybe the agents
futurist_wizard: They wouldn't be in pain
inferno0879: they wouldn't have a reason to live either
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gamerbath: how come I never though of this
.histic: we need 2.5 Pro MAX
okbut: *Thus also beneficial to determine how much reasoning effort, for both cost and performance
gamerbath: wait
gamerbath: this is an option in cursor
.histic: yeah, i've no clue what that is and how cursor did that
okbut: Cost?
trey6033: Cursor unique, think it uses the full context window, whereas normal one is limited
gamerbath: 5 cents per request and tool call
.histic: might just be a fine-tuned 2.5 pro and not as if Google gave them an internal model they haven't released that uses far more thinking tokens..
gamerbath: just like 3.7 sonnet thinking
okbut: Oh it's not selectable?looks gray
trey6033: Max just means "1m context window"
trey6033: Whereas other one is like 256k or something like that
.histic: 3.7 Max is a real model though
trey6033: I know
trey6033: But max there is just something cursor did, not google
.histic: oh
trey6033: They just upped the context window, unlike for whatever reason they didn't with default
.histic: we need an updated 2.5 Pro asap
okbut: I'm wondering whether the cursor switch is worth it being a copilot/cline bro
gamerbath: it is, I just disabled it so I don't see it in the model selector. there's so many models in here
gamerbath: o3 and o4-mini further down. it doesn't say low medium or high so what's going on there? maybe it's just the default medium?
gamerbath: for the reasoning effort
.histic: defaults to high reasoning effort
Cursor confirmed this in a tweet
okbut: If cursor has this then vs code insiders must
okbut: Can't check yet tho
.histic:
gamerbath: I guess that explains why it took 30 minutes for it to implement a simple fix 3.7 sonnet did in 30 seconds
okbut: Aight I'm trying Cursor
gamerbath: it was just reading so many unrelated files, maybe it was overthinking and started hallucinating?
drewsni: cursor vs github copilot which is best currently
st.sioux: copilot is great on vscode but super buggy on jetbrains ides
st.sioux: i hate cursor personally
st.sioux: lol
drewsni: yeah cursors always been super wonky for me but it seems to be the best value
theaiguy69420_89814:
theaiguy69420_89814:
theaiguy69420_89814: cursor still the best value imo
theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf doesnt offer bring your own API key (BYOK), so its sort of slacking
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joaoluz19: Hooooly
drewsni: genuinely wtf it isnt messed up any text so far right?
hey1_1hey: Yeah I think this is an AGI moment
neon01197: they do be cooking
hey1_1hey: I see why it took so long
drewsni: this is insane
hikukomoru: Texting Sama rn asking him to generate a hot dog girl
neon01197: first img they gen'd had a word miswritten
neon01197: (meant as a compliment, seems the rror rate is pretty low)
hey1_1hey: Damn bro hex codes aswell
hey1_1hey: They been cooking
hey1_1hey: Someone just fell over in the back 😭
drewsni: but like only one damn. This might actually end up saving money depending on how much it costs. Whenever i try to generate words i always end up running like 100 gens just to get 1 that is correct
hey1_1hey: AUTISTIC BEAR 😭
ai9708: autistic bear
hey1_1hey: WHAT
ailoveyoom: Autistic bear?
hey1_1hey: Chat clip that
joaoluz19: Artistic bear
joaoluz19: Common guys
ai9708: ours is funnier
connorsphone.: It forgot the dog
gamerbath: OH NO WAY
st.sioux: everyone is autistic now
hey1_1hey: Don't call me a filthy commonor
st.sioux: everything is autistic
drewsni: 3d models incoming
gamerbath: IT DOES TRANSPARENCY
hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOO
ailoveyoom: UBA = Universal Basic Autism
spicy.lemonade: NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
metaldragon01: Book covers about to go crazy
hey1_1hey: Zon gonna be coping hard with this
hey1_1hey: "Its not even that good"
joaoluz19: Lol it can remove background
hikukomoru: Still no hot dog girl
Bro left me on read
ailoveyoom: That means a bigger model makes a difference to image quality 🥵
gamerbath: "API soon" <:prayge:981798930113249300>
spicy.lemonade: YES
hey1_1hey: "2026"
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joaoluz19: Many are annoying af
hey1_1hey: They are really good at getting acidental alcohol poisening
alejandrozarzuelo: I say this with love
trent_k: confirmation bias, u dont notice the ones who are normal and well adjusted
anathemaofmankind: This reminds me of that one time I got flirted with once in a McDonalds by a group of gay people
anathemaofmankind: I was 17
spicy.lemonade: I was only a simp for one girl
fractalcomputer: Oh, obviously many homosexuals are jovial and amicable people. But they're just boring.
hey1_1hey: True, the ones I know well enough at the very least
hikukomoru: That's just how brasilians usually are
anathemaofmankind: I'm not even kidding. That happened.
They were trying to offer me nuggets
hey1_1hey: Jared from accounting kinda boring or ?
fractalcomputer: They're all too comfortable with the cultural status quo and their ambitions are shallow; just like the rest of the mediocre masses.
spicy.lemonade: everyone should post the art they have been "working on"
spicy.lemonade: it ha to be furry
futurist_wizard: Your people
joaoluz19: I can't disagree lol
spicy.lemonade: thankfully no one noticed the age difference
trent_k: i put that i dont do art (because i dont have chatgpt paypig tier)
fractalcomputer: I can't stand modest people. They are quite repulsive.
hikukomoru: They're cool with it <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: ngl this is a furry server
trent_k:
spicy.lemonade: i wouldnt be surprised
futurist_wizard: Alejandro pfp should fit in
spicy.lemonade: notebook doodles look realistic asf
spicy.lemonade: they will never tell
spicy.lemonade: 😭
anathemaofmankind: Stop acting like you're not one of them <@505313122802728972>
Mr. expert of lolicon shit
hey1_1hey: That first sentence killed me
futurist_wizard: Its just Alejandro
hey1_1hey: mich mach for example
hey1_1hey: I mean I dont have any proof that he is a furry but yanno
hikukomoru: Aren't you into horses too
fractalcomputer: Banal is what this server has become.
hey1_1hey: No one would be supprised if he was
anathemaofmankind: Is this true <@430269783112548362>
hey1_1hey: Leave my horses out of this
maintcrew: ur lamenting the social realities while having the power to change your dislikings
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hikukomoru: No that's Trent's real husband
hey1_1hey: Yeah craton is fine imo
trent_k: No, that's a real pic of me with a polish sailor at the Ukrainian refugee camp at the Warsaw central train station in 2022
hey1_1hey: I mean I saw someone offering crayon drawings on furry porn for 50 dollars one time
trent_k: We all called him Popeye because nobody knew his name and he always had that funny hat lol
trent_k: And he couldn't speak English well enough to have a real conversation
trent_k: He did know the word "segregate" tho which I thought was odd
futurist_wizard: I think it's the paper
hey1_1hey: Was gonna say, 4o would blow me away again if that was real
spicy.lemonade: ok gonna post
anathemaofmankind: Bro stop it
spicy.lemonade: what
anathemaofmankind: You're gonna get exposed
spicy.lemonade: bro if the believed the frog one
spicy.lemonade: they will believe this
st.sioux: no
spicy.lemonade: maybe I should add text to make it look legit
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't look real
spicy.lemonade: what about it looks fake
forallhumanity: The paper is too tan
anathemaofmankind: It's too clean and the paper is too shiny
hikukomoru: it's just the lighting
avizuradnb: That looks way too good lol
hey1_1hey: I think maybe too clean yeah
hey1_1hey: Maybe ask for "imprefect"
futurist_wizard: Its not the drawing its just the lighting isn't realistic
spicy.lemonade: ok
spicy.lemonade: told ai to generate faded pencil erasing
spicy.lemonade: eraser shavings
avizuradnb: I think it's the pencil strokes
st.sioux: you know how those people put the pencils besides the drawings for some reason
forallhumanity: Mhm
st.sioux: maybe do that
hey1_1hey: Good good
hey1_1hey: Hopefully that will look a bit more realistic
futurist_wizard: Its difficult to get it to look real
futurist_wizard: Gpt wants to make it look very professional
gamerbath: have you tried telling it to make it not look professional?
gamerbath: or maybe you need to be more descriptive than that, but idk how to prompt that
spicy.lemonade: hmm
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wolf3404: Good
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/yuko-yoshida-machikado-mazoku-scared-gif-15171156
spicy.lemonade: i want black mirror tech to become real
valimil: fdvr plz
spicy.lemonade: do we really have to give agi rights?
spicy.lemonade: in the last episode the guy got arrested for abusing digital lifeform
sieventer: I SAID FOLLOW ME, OR DO YOU WANT I GRAB YOUR ARM, DON'T MAKE IT HARD
spicy.lemonade: how else am i supposed to be god king in my fdvr world
spicy.lemonade: no rights for agi imo
spicy.lemonade: theyl be aight
sieventer: An ant deciding if humans should have rights 😏
himekokatagiri: o-okay... 😨
hikukomoru:
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 better not be incremental
alejandrozarzuelo: 4o was disappointing
himekokatagiri: Shit with all the hyping I expect the ninth wonder
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: 4o was not dissapointing
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: it was only a bit better than gemini 2.5
spicy.lemonade: you mean o4 mini?
alejandrozarzuelo: o4 i mean
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: srry
_cloudost: > Processing image
>
> Lots of people are creating images right now, so this might take a bit. We'll notify you when your image is ready.
alejandrozarzuelo: o4 was diappointing
alejandrozarzuelo: we aint getting AGI this year
_cloudost: Currently on chatGPT
alejandrozarzuelo: or next
alejandrozarzuelo: or this decade
alejandrozarzuelo: its so over
_cloudost: Ccp will invent AGI dw
spicy.lemonade: yes it was a bit disapointing. incremental update and reasoning over image felt like bruteforce. google has true omnimodal image reasoning
spicy.lemonade: but the benchmarks don lie
spicy.lemonade: especially enigma bench
spicy.lemonade: an upgrade non the less
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: o3 is based on 4o
hikukomoru: Based
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futurist_wizard: Yeah i am, i will piss all over the female toilet seats
futurist_wizard: Good luck
hikukomoru: Testosterone causes baldness so that means a real manly man is bald
futurist_wizard: It's actually dht
alejandrozarzuelo: ? Why do you contradict yourself at every 3 sentences
Being hairless is gay but body hair is also gay?
joaoluz19: My genetics are to have a lot of it's over
hey1_1hey: You just reminded me of the image where someone photoshoped some guys body hair into a suit 😭
futurist_wizard: Thankfully i have fairly good hair genes
okbut: If you're British, it does, wherein the population benefits from the metabolism from vitamin D because the country gets no fucking sunlight (thus lowering risk of cancers)
hikukomoru: Alejandro, I would think that by now you would be able to tell when I'm being serious and when I'm not
alejandrozarzuelo: I have good hair, I am proud of it and take great care if it, but I will probably fill the upper section when I get the chance, just to make it even better
alejandrozarzuelo: It seems you never are
joaoluz19: Everyone is gay - Kurt Cobain
futurist_wizard: Oooh
futurist_wizard: I must be very straight passing
alejandrozarzuelo: This is gender affirming therapies
And yes, cis guys like me can get gender affirming therapy, let's normalise it
hikukomoru: I am a deeply unserious person, in other words, silly
futurist_wizard: Cis men have gender dysphoria, they try to transition to hyper masculine
futurist_wizard: Being masculine does nothing in ones life
himekokatagiri: More of a sign of today's society tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: Society has valued masculinity since 10 000 BCE
futurist_wizard: Masculinity is currently strived for in today's current social climate
himekokatagiri: they clearly don't now
himekokatagiri: lol
joaoluz19: True
futurist_wizard: The final coping method
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I think that getting your hair done is great and people should do it if they want to to have fuller heads
futurist_wizard: You mean like a transplant
joaoluz19: I don't understand the point of appealing to masculinity when both sexes are going to explode in post-humanism.
alejandrozarzuelo: Maybe we as a society become very masculine and we eliminate gender by becoming all masculine
himekokatagiri: lol no
alejandrozarzuelo: Why not
hikukomoru: God no
himekokatagiri: there's an appeal in cuteness
futurist_wizard: Terrible
alejandrozarzuelo: You are literally a lesbian 💀
joaoluz19: This is a question that Zizek explicitly asked "can sexuality survive the singularity?"
alejandrozarzuelo: Masculinity can be cute kawaii keai adorable too
hikukomoru: Are you calling me masculine you little shit
futurist_wizard: Im on my male misandry arc, 95% of the worlds issues are instigated by men
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spicy.lemonade: studio ghibli could churn out a new movie based on the hype
spicy.lemonade: "oh its the guy who made the filter but for real"
.histic: ❓
spicy.lemonade: "guys lets go watch"
drewsni: they kinda are, and are making a killing
drewsni: the princess mononoke remaster is going to end up making 5x the amount it made from the original 1999 run to 2024
drewsni: thats 4 million from just friday and saturday, theaters today are even more sold out than they were yesterday, and theres still another week of the run
drewsni: AND thats only 330 theaters btw
.histic: for some reason using the phrase 'massive implants' bypasses 4o img gen.
clevermoniker:
clevermoniker: minus inflation
drewsni: which btw is as much per theater as oppenheimer made week 2
drewsni: not super relevant considering half of that amount was from 2018 and 2019
clevermoniker: hm i see
drewsni: but yeah that 1999 weekened would be double w/ inflation youre right about that
spicy.lemonade: loll
.histic: where did you get this from?
drewsni: you wanna see whats even more crazy?
clevermoniker: i don't know, i saved it on December 2022
.wolfnacht: Total Artist Death
drewsni: ok i was wrong about the avg per theater rev
drewsni: but its still significantly higher than any other movie right now that is playing in more than 5 theaters. And its only doing 1 to 2 showings per day
thedon7075: perfect
thedon7075: someone uses /pol
.wolfnacht: i h8 /pol/, i stay more active on /x/ and /g/
thedon7075: same
.wolfnacht: apart from /aicg/, /g/'s pretty much dead rn...and no new whistleblower came with his schizo theory on /x/....it's soo over
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade: those were the days
spicy.lemonade: strawberry leaks
spicy.lemonade: wonder what juicy stuff is being worked on
spicy.lemonade: stuff we know openAI s working on
1. realtime robotics agentic system (like figure)
2. cmputer use agents
3. realtime voice
4. obvious reasoning improvements
5. video
st.sioux: sponshbob was a visionary
ldj: where did you go
ldj: <a:yapping:1234215211649466408>
drewsni: probably spoiler that at least bruh
drewsni: but actually probably delete it
clevermoniker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_FXZH1hn0
.wolfnacht: fineee
spacetimetsunami: According to this, at which point in time relative to task accuracy do you think is a good threshold for thinking about when automation becomes more disruptive? Like in early 2026 if AI is able to do tasks in (20min human equivalent) with 80% accuracy, this doesn’t seem like it would mean significant automation can begin, or could it?
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himekokatagiri: hiiiii singularityfriends
himekokatagiri: what's up
himekokatagiri: what's down
technocake.: up is hype
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywP4I9kAAfE
technocake.: down is stocks
okbut: Yeah 21 or smthn
himekokatagiri: idk I don't buy stocks
alejandrozarzuelo: these guys are the worst
okbut: Oh the dude was in his description
zonchao: we need DEI for this genre
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1910852794153652578 !
ailoveyoom: Like Projects?
ailoveyoom: Chat folders?
fuhulootogan: i'm not sure whether these videos are staged or not
fuhulootogan: how do you hide a camera staring directly at the person at different angles
zonchao: yea
alejandrozarzuelo: i hope they are stged
fuhulootogan: i think the most questionable part is how easily they got the strangers number
alejandrozarzuelo: otherwise its assault
fuhulootogan: lmao
fuhulootogan: i'm talking about whether the people they made contact with were told to do so or not
alejandrozarzuelo: ahhh
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe they are just friends
alejandrozarzuelo: or smth
alejandrozarzuelo: there was a video that was very outrageous and went viral but turns out it was a parody made by a group of friends and people were using it to say how women are really the worst etc etc
fuhulootogan: all prank videos are extremely questionable to me
zonchao:
fuhulootogan: i remember the bear or man bs on tiktok
fuhulootogan: i look back at how utterly useless that was
fuhulootogan: wait
fuhulootogan: can i send gifs
zonchao: no I will ban you
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/ground-beef-grinder-gif-10187548
okbut: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1360636890965082395
okbut: You found it
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/pink-floyd-pinkfloyd-thewall-wall-gif-6862041
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yD9-rO92xFc
alejandrozarzuelo: nah thats not the favorite argument
alejandrozarzuelo: the favorite argument is "why do you care"
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_cloudost: Hollywood will still stay?
_cloudost: We will be seeing YouTubers protest against AI
spicy.lemonade: It won’t be holywood level
spicy.lemonade: Actually
_cloudost: As such tools will most likely ruin entertainment
spicy.lemonade: It might be a very good 10-20 min clip
spicy.lemonade: Just not Hollywood movie
spicy.lemonade: Due to native image tech
spicy.lemonade: We might see a native image gen moment
spicy.lemonade: For video
ailoveyoom: You can be pro AI while acknowledging the risks tho
ailoveyoom: Be fr, easily accessible advanced image manipulation won't just be used for good
wellmeaningalien: Is roach man in our cult or not in our cult
wellmeaningalien: He needs to be excommunicated
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/pisscord-gif-7378587637875019303
hey1_1hey: Asmongold? What did he say about AI <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: he said things will only get worse for artists and they should deal with it instead of crying about it
zonchao: he is more e/acc than most on this server btw talks about ubi and shit
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sarik0497: Rare Asmongold W
hey1_1hey: Damn didn't know he was so based
zonchao: not risks, i think he was just happy it's starting to happen, he thinks it'll happen to everyone and we will get ubi <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Do people in his comments think hes schzio then
zonchao: afaik he was one of the firsts to support ai on youtube
zonchao: remember that corridor crew ai anime
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: idk, I don't read yt comments
st.sioux: do you really have to use that ugly ass dog on literally every single message you send
zonchao: https://youtu.be/XDuc932pToc?
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Thats fair, Its a cesspit down there, I wouldnt't recomend
sarik0497: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sarik0497: It's a cute dog
hey1_1hey: I am only a quarter way through and everything he has said so far has been so incredibly based
zonchao: yea he is very pro ai
zonchao: https://youtu.be/vO4lhga4Jjw?
zonchao: 2 years ago
zoermena: Does this mean you’ll double down on yesterdays comments 🎤
zonchao: what comments
.0xunkn0wn: can 4o image generation create like a heightmap and colormap
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joaoluz19: I'm studying Ladder but will give it a look
okbut: Right-swipe elo, it's totally backwards from actually finding people good matches, but it boosts ego and keeps the person swiping on "pretty" people
joaoluz19: Who managed to make a 3b model go from 2% to 82% in calculus
joaoluz19: Of course, there is always a conflict of interest.
_3sphere: ASI will run a dating app as a public utility to avoid such perverse incentives :3
okbut: The unimaginable power of a mind upload for finding a match
hikukomoru: ASI match maker
joaoluz19: Literally me
_3sphere: What if we kissed both in the same zip file 😳
joaoluz19: Nah for me mind uploading is about paradise in many different ways, multiplying intelligence, stimulating positive emotions, rebuilding the environment
st.sioux: by that point we will have the perfectly engineered match
st.sioux: i hope
joaoluz19: That's the goal
okbut: If they figure out profiteering matches (over app usage)
joaoluz19: But as Entropy said, you know what's funny, it's about how little many men need
_3sphere: I just hope it won't cause craziness or extreme entitlement
joaoluz19: What you really need is love instead of just looks.
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/jam3scampbell/status/1903892579097469345?t=HBkFzpP_bbeeiIgtJwb6Ww&s=19
hey1_1hey: We don't mention that part round here
sarik0497: Nothing really is shown to come this year atm besides GPT-5 <:sadcat:1160227095985787041>
ldj:
joaoluz19: Didn't they say this year is the year of agents?
okbut: Geologic timeline getting an update soon <:poggers:809097919776030730>
sarik0497: Maybe, but at the same time you have Dario claiming that AI will be a beast at programming by the end of this year
sarik0497: But until they show something
hikukomoru: R2?
.histic: GPT-5.5 too <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
sarik0497: Isn't that just a myth/rumor?
professorheaven: We still got 9 more months to go so we should probably see an R3 before end of year
professorheaven: It’s confirmed in April
hikukomoru: The release date was a just a rumour, the model is actually coming relatively soon
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/nice-very-nice-willem-dafoe-donald-kimball-american-psycho-thats-great-gif-18161337
sarik0497: I hope they shall funnel new hopium into my veins.
hey1_1hey: I am looking forward to completing algebra 1, 2, geom, stats, and pre calc this year. Theres also more mushrooms to look forward to. Don't forget about the sunsets aswell
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923
hey1_1hey: Quite a lot to look froward to actually
hikukomoru: Also I'm probably the only one, but I'm excited for Llama 4
hey1_1hey: Get checked
sarik0497: Oh yea...that exists.
professorheaven: Nah no chance
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gamerbath: okay it's actually not bad
gamerbath: I feel like there's too much padding in the input box now, but the servers list is much better
zoermena: What happened?
zoermena: Im so confused
hikukomoru: I want the old discord pls
gamerbath: restart ur discord
hikukomoru: Restart ur discord app
joaoluz19: Just go to Sora and change video to image here
zoermena: Im on my phone
hey1_1hey: Thats the part I dislike most
zoermena: Ohhh
hey1_1hey: I liked my big server icons
joaoluz19: Man how to go back to the old appearance wtf
hikukomoru: It's hard to read what y'all are saying
joaoluz19: This is so ugly
hey1_1hey: YOUTUBE FUCKED UP ASWELL
hikukomoru: GC is crying 💔
hey1_1hey: WHY IS THERE ONLY 4 VIDEOS FOR THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE SCREEN
gamerbath: everything is completely find actually, it's just too much padding some places, even with compact layout
joaoluz19: That was your fault for talking about the artists
hikukomoru: My YT looks fine
gamerbath: my youtube has been randomly selecting 4 or 5 for the past few months
hey1_1hey: I must be the sacrifical lamb
maintcrew: hey tangential but ytorrent is considered malware in the dev community
hikukomoru: Nevermind
maintcrew: get qbittorrent if ur on windows
gamerbath: also the spacing between videos on my youtube for some rows is off
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I have that aswell
joaoluz19: Ok thanks bro
hikukomoru: Based qbittorrent user 🤝
hey1_1hey: I keep getting recomended youtube "playables" and I keep hitting not interested and then they go for awhile and they come back
hikukomoru: didn't know you were chill like that
st.sioux: > ytorrent
Lol
maintcrew: i use linux lol i have a cli torrent program i dont use qbittorrent
gamerbath: but guys, if you don't like the new discord look just relax, breath in and breathe out. In a week you won't find it so bad
hey1_1hey: Like why on gods green earth would I want to play shitty mobile games ON YOUTUBE if I came there to WATCH VIDEOS
maintcrew: tf do u want me to use the greek letter or??
st.sioux: no one calls it ytorrent bro
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/linux-femboy-arch-cute-femboyrell-gif-12123850081067751237
maintcrew:
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gamerbath: o4-mini just made a change to a function in a file, which requires the function call in other files to change too but it hasn't done that. It has just been silently reading files for like the past 20 minutes
gamerbath: imma go take a shower because this is too slow
st.sioux: just kill it bro
trojan09205: Ngl the llama 3 on my raybans is actually pretty dope
trojan09205: I kind of feel like the actor in the movie Her
st.sioux: do u livestream with them?
trojan09205: I havent tried yet. Just got em this afternoon 🙂
trojan09205: They just have a really nice little agentic suite going on. Ask it questions- the stt is super fast. Follow up questions are on context. Can ask it to make reminders for you. Turn the convo into song suggestions. Its just really overall a helpful utility. Customized the voice to one that is tolerable
777agical: https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1912952857571336299?s=46
trojan09205: Actually smart move lol
777agical: yea...
trojan09205: There are practically zero downsides to AIs that flatter
a1c4p0ne: Is 2.5 flash smart?
gamerbath: it's good for its price range
metaldragon01: very false. Theres a reason that echo chambers or surrounding yourself with "yes men" are considered bad things
gamerbath: well, by the looks of it on the benchmarks on google's own post about it
callmepyro: It's the newest SOTA non-thinking model by benchmark scores (if you turn off thinking mode)
callmepyro: Also it's about the price of 4.1 mini, so yeah it's pretty fuckin nuts
gamerbath: what benchmark scores are you referring to? on google's post about it they used reasoning in the benchmark
callmepyro: I'm referring to the non reasoning scores they posted in the benchmark
futurist_wizard: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-eu-bans-ai-assistants-virtual-meetings/
hikukomoru: AI programmed to love you = AI that won't kill you in the future
hikukomoru: Seems like a good thing idk
callmepyro: These
futurist_wizard: Ban ban restrict, under invest, ban
The path of the EU
callmepyro: 74% on GPQA with reasoning disabled
gamerbath: well that's something. I thought you were reffering to this, where they only show 2.5 flash thinking
callmepyro: Yeah, no I wasn't looking at those
metaldragon01: something telling you what you want to hear isn't the same as loving you. people who love you tell you the hard truth.
gamerbath: wait i reply ping'd the wrong guy pls ignore wayne guy
futurist_wizard: Jesus
futurist_wizard: Gemini cheaper by 10x than o4 mini, basically similar results
futurist_wizard: Its over
st.sioux: how do u look at that chart and say they have "similar results"
gamerbath: eeeh, look at the output cost of 2.5 flash with reasoning. it's significantly higher than without reasoning. the input is extremely cheap though
metaldragon01: its closer to o3 medium imo
trojan09205: Sorry went afk. I guess i just like when the AIs can really connect with me
futurist_wizard: Humanities last exam, les than a 2% increase
futurist_wizard: Or barely a bit above
metaldragon01: its going to come down to reliability
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sweetievee__33649: what does blindsight do? Give blind people back their vision or something
wellmeaningalien: fire
wellmeaningalien: restore a primitive form of vision
zonchao: yes, but probably a blurry mess for starters... better than nothing ig... will have to see
sweetievee__33649: i dont think anyone is saying that its a bad thing lol. Blind people getting back their vision is always a good thing even if its super blurry
hikukomoru: I wish Elon just did shit like this and stayed out of politics
zonchao: i can imagine, in the future we will be able to see outside the visible spectrum with some enhancements
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ldj: Im not trying to be mean or antagonistic, just trying to be blunt about it
sweetievee__33649: elons cool even with his politics although i would tend to agree with you that he needs to stay out of poltics and just get back to doing cool stuff
sweetievee__33649: like imagining new colours?
wellmeaningalien: you pwned him
wellmeaningalien: he does talk about morality a lot
zonchao: it was sadly necessary for his companies and in his view "humanity"... I will not elaborate 😤 maybe in <#1136231504440201216>
wellmeaningalien: personally i think id wait it out further until it gets better lol
zonchao: infrared etc
zonchao: yea, heard they will have a couple dozen normie link patients this year with big upgrades
sweetievee__33649: go wild there sure
sweetievee__33649: i think it would depend on how easy it would be to 'upgrade'. You woulldnt want to keep getting repeat open brain surgeries
wellmeaningalien: yea same
wellmeaningalien: i wonder how reversible neuralink is so that youre not stuck with last year's thing
wellmeaningalien: they planned anything out for that?
zonchao: rn it's not upgradeable but the first neuralink patient said he is hopeful 🥺
wellmeaningalien: so its just running on jope and dreams
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631
zonchao: they are still early in development, probably not that far
hikukomoru: That's usually how Elon runs yeah
sweetievee__33649: i would hope so i sure as hell wouldnt want my neuralink bci to tweek out and then i suddenly have seizure
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/runwayml/status/1906718935778545964
wellmeaningalien: i mean putting electrodes in one's brain is a big thing but i guess theyre less worried about long term and just putting things in people's head
wellmeaningalien: ngl idk if this is better than veo 2
sweetievee__33649: i love winning
hikukomoru: I believe in Elon though
wellmeaningalien: some of the examples looked shit
wellmeaningalien: i mean neuralink is fucking cool nobody else is doing anything like that
clevermoniker: at least less censored i would say
wellmeaningalien: he singlehandedly is pushing BCIs to market adoption
zonchao: these are non issues rn, the entire thing could change in a year, not worth it to optimize rn
sweetievee__33649: the red tape would be crazy i imagine
wellmeaningalien: well i doubt you would know
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bob082957: It’s a app
bob082957: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/manus-ai/id6740909540
.histic: 2.5 Pro scored 51% on [SimpleBench](https://simple-bench.com/)
5% higher than 3.7 Thinking on spatial reasoning, social understanding, and trick questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTslCsPBGHw
drewsni: <@269678268670672896> first run had 2.5 pro w/ grounding at 3236 avg, ahead of o1's 3139
technocake.: erm guys, this is for us https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1jm60ma/ai_twitter_in_2025/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
drewsni: And before anyone asks. No I cannot afford to run o1 pro and I cannot afford to run o1 w/ search either
trent_k: brutally owned myself
technocake.: sounds like mine tbf
zoermena: I just got 4o ratecucked
futurist_wizard: Pay up
zoermena: To pro you say?
futurist_wizard: Bruh
technocake.: I'm trying to buy a house, is that absolute insanity given the probable next 5 years of development?
.histic: yeah, i sometimes have to wait 6 minutes
zoermena: Have you gotten any messages of "ufortunately we can´t make images rn to make it smoother etc"
zoermena: Depends on how big it is
zoermena: and where it is
technocake.: London RIP
futurist_wizard: Yes
.histic: usually just a response of you've been rate limited for x amount of minutes. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
futurist_wizard: You'd be better off renting and chucking that money into etfs
technocake.: cheaper than my current rental with many benefits
zoermena: I'd imagine you'd buy a house beyond it's investment value accounting for Singularity it could be more of a safety net.
futurist_wizard: Why would a house be a safety net accounting for the singularity
zoermena: Because you would have somewhere to live, something that is truly yours legally.
technocake.: I expect land and space to have high value post singularity
technocake.: esp on earth
futurist_wizard: Or it could be much less
technocake.: either way, i can just deffault for no loss
zoermena: I think that earth land would be extremely valuable just because it's on "earth" relative to whatever other planets we might colonize/terraform
futurist_wizard: Post singularity the amount of efficiency we could get in a smaller and smaller area, it would almost certainly devalue
futurist_wizard: You'd be better off just buying farm land
futurist_wizard: If that is your actual reasoning
zoermena: Any land is good imo.
technocake.: my reasoning is -> high value land singularity, quids in
technocake.: ¬> low value land singularity, default for no loss and live in infinite prodduct bliss anyway
futurist_wizard: It also depends on how you envision da world post singularity, some time after singularity years decades whatever, i envision everyone mind uploading, turning earth or mars or whatever into a giant computer
futurist_wizard: Worrying about investments is like a agi worry
technocake.: exactly, the rules will fundamentally change
theaiguy69420_89814: Check this out
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hikukomoru: I don't really mind those memes
And if we actually became a real BR territory that would mean more hot brasilian girls so that's fine with me
zoermena: Intern as delivery driver is insane
himekokatagiri: in FDVR you can just simulate 1927, go to a hardware store and buy a Tommy gun no questions asked
himekokatagiri: or idk mail order one.
joaoluz19: Based
joaoluz19: LMAO
hey1_1hey: I remember quite a lot of my dreams, usually they make sense or are just weird. I dont usually get bad dreams at all.
joaoluz19: This meme fires actually
futurist_wizard: I mostly have nightmares
hey1_1hey: I do sometimes get random dreams from 3 weeks ago pop into my conciosenss and go "Huh yeah, that one sure was weird"
joaoluz19: He just manage data, input things in the system that type of thing
hikukomoru: Really living up to your pfp huh
.histic: i remember none of my dreams
hey1_1hey: This just might be the people I talk to but apertly people usually have bad dreams more than good dreams
joaoluz19: He doesn't deliver physically
himekokatagiri: don't be fooled by the cute exterior komoru wants to do worse
hey1_1hey: I remember all of them in great detail and I dream every night without fail! But I can't imagine anything in my head...
hey1_1hey: Whats up with that
hey1_1hey: Complete amphatasia
futurist_wizard: My good dreams arent amazing, they are just chill hanging out with friends i don't know
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/hug-monsterinc-cute-boo-kitty-gif-4663332
.histic: wait, that's actually a weird combo
joaoluz19: Wgmi bros that's it
joaoluz19: Komoru with his maid
hikukomoru: I wouldn't even harm a single fly
.histic: i can imagine things vividly in my head but rarely remember my dreams
hey1_1hey: Mine are either hanging out with the bros, flying, doing some cool shit, AI or mushrooms
futurist_wizard: Sounds like you lucid dream
hey1_1hey: Yeah I am not too sure whats up with it. Its like I channel all my imagination power for when I am not conciose
hey1_1hey: Yeah I do, every night some how. I always have done
zoermena: Ah it’s because himeku is a delivery driver
futurist_wizard: I can't lucid dream, some of my dreams are very vivid so i guess it doesn't matter
hikukomoru: conscious*
Channel a bit of that brainpower for spelling won't you
hey1_1hey: I also have concurrent dreams where if I think "I want to dream about this" I will and it will continue on from before. I've had this one dream that I've had for years and its just a tv series pretty much
metaldragon01: No reason not to tbh
zoermena: Lucky rascal
futurist_wizard: In almost all of my dreams im a young child
hey1_1hey: Conscious is litterly a word I can't spell.
joaoluz19: Yeah I was answering that still exists some entry-level administrative jobs here
hey1_1hey: Really am, I find it weird people dont dream every night because yanno... what do you do?
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theaiguy69420_89814: I can. You know why? More compute, more data
theaiguy69420_89814: Than you, at least
spicy.lemonade: Geometric series
theaiguy69420_89814: Suck to have been shaken as a child; I suppose we can use you as what *not* to do
fractalcomputer: Correct.
fractalcomputer: What?
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Bros gone ful schizo
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol
_3sphere: They form a regular origin-centered polygon for some reason and its center is the origin :3
theaiguy69420_89814: Bit of a stretch, but it seems like fractal is simply touting rationalism as the chief source of knowledge simply in order to maintain his sense of intellectual seniority;
This would explain that aforementioned math proof request and the dismissal of AGI claims
.wolfnacht: dats not him
_3sphere: hm, I probably would actually try to go through the polar coordinate thing
_3sphere: there's probably a better way but that should work
fractalcomputer: In what sense "should" work?
_3sphere: If you can prove that they really are shaped like an origin-centered regular polygon if plotted in 2D, their sum being zero follows from that
fractalcomputer: I'd rather appreciate if you tried not to psychoanalyse me.
fractalcomputer: How?
fractalcomputer: Show your work.
fractalcomputer: Say, then Spicy, do you remember the old proof for the sum of a geometric series?
theaiguy69420_89814: Sorry, force of habit
theaiguy69420_89814: However, a useful model to support the complete dismissal of your ideas
theaiguy69420_89814: Come back when you link an AI paper, I suppose
fractalcomputer: Alright. Atrone, maybe you should take a break from Discord for a while.
_3sphere: raising a complex number to a power multiplies its argument (angle from +X axis) by the exponent, and multiple turns is the same as no turn, so the set of all numbers that ^N to 1 is e^z where z times an integer is a multiple of 2pi, and that's e^(2pi n/N)... idk 😭
_3sphere: I don't think I proved anything ever
_3sphere: ...yeah that seems easier
fractalcomputer: You still haven't established a connection with the sum of these roots.
_3sphere: Is their rotational symmetry enough
fractalcomputer: No.
sweetievee__33649: who dis?
maintcrew: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1907121732785168461
.histic: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907490132040601712
3ds0662: o3 is not coming out tomorrow
3ds0662: and it is now april 2nd today
3ds0662: does R2 come out this month? that is the question
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1907494566430757239?
sweetievee__33649: https://x.com/wintermoat/status/1907474522514797018 not sure how real this is but thought id share
literallyvarane: Gemini 2.51 pro
joaoluz19: It's incredible how in AI we're talking about there being no more programmers in 2 years and literally a God in 15 and in neuroscience we're talking about tests to control the mouse pointer with the brain lol
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futurist_wizard: If its not certain i can easily beat the fuck of the guy, im instantly put on edge by them even being a room with me
hikukomoru: ?
wellmeaningalien: i think all normies were pro ai off the hook. even despite what happened in the media with ai, they are still generally favorable towards it
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: Twitter echo chamber, more normies are now pro-AI than anti-AI
brain4brain: All anti-ai post are getting booed off the internet
wellmeaningalien: the other day i was with a group of complete strangers, we were talking about ourselves and i mentioned to them i have an interest in AI, they said "thats good, thats cool, youre preparing for the future"
hikukomoru: You're too paranoid 💔
brain4brain: In both popular reply, newest reply, and qrt
futurist_wizard: In my dna
brain4brain: We finally won
hikukomoru: I get spooked by all men
wellmeaningalien: twitter is not the world, twitter is just a very loud 1/20th fraction of the world, and only like 1000 of those people are relevant to the discussion
wellmeaningalien: really? but mark and milchick from severance
futurist_wizard: I remember i had a male therapist and most of the time i was thinking of a plan in the event of him attacking me, even though he was some manlet
wellmeaningalien: ok to be fair youd be right to be scared of milchick
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: We haven't won until I can run AGI on my pc
wellmeaningalien: dylan
hikukomoru: Idk who this is but he looks creepy
wellmeaningalien: im not the only one who plans what would happen if people suddenly fight me
wellmeaningalien: ur therapist is crazy tho
wellmeaningalien: he's just silly bro
hikukomoru: No he looks creepy
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/mark-s-mark-scout-severance-music-dance-experience-dance-party-gif-14871933351722719444
wellmeaningalien: HES SILLY BRO
futurist_wizard: Why was he crazy, i was the one scanning the room for objects to stab him with
brain4brain: DeepSeek R3
wellmeaningalien: no
futurist_wizard: Schizophrenia runs in my family
hikukomoru: That's not AGI bro
wellmeaningalien: im saying wanting to fight ur therapist is crazy
hikukomoru: Not even close
wellmeaningalien: lolz
wellmeaningalien: says person with deepseek r3 on their computer
futurist_wizard: I didn't say i wanted to
wellmeaningalien: yeah yeah
hikukomoru: I don't have deepseek on my pc 😭
wellmeaningalien: idiot
wellmeaningalien: i have deepseek r1 qwen 32b locked and loaded on my peecee
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: tf
spicy.lemonade: all that because he giblified an image
spicy.lemonade: loll
st.sioux: preach
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is hilarious
ldj: Okay but is there any source at all that proves this original tweet is even a true quote?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Idk
zonchao: https://x.com/ishigyunyu/status/1907052584709320791?
ldj: yep found it just now too lol
drewsni: The one piece director doesn’t understand copyright and fair use?
ldj:
ldj: this seems to be a better translation
zonchao: isn't japan like super pro ai art
zonchao: legally
zonchao: 🤔
drewsni: Literally last time ghibli brand was this valuable was 1999
zonchao: ghibli poasters should pivot to one piece poasting
ldj: yep <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
drewsni: Nobody cared about the ghibli brand when it was being piecemealed and sold off over the last 2 decades
drewsni: Nobody cares when every anime/comic convention has 50% of vendors selling counterfeit ghibli merch
drewsni: Literally making money on it
drewsni: God forbid people generate pictures that make them happy
drewsni:
drewsni: Literally hitler
brain4brain: >Tarnish the value of the Ghibli brand
>Ghibli movie literally shot up in popularity and awareness
>All ticket for Ghibli movie sold out
<:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1907255335607247087?s=61
destrucules: How dare humans have fun! Don't they know that the financial viability of a large corporation could be affected?
destrucules: Can you imagine millions of humans getting joy out of something that could possibly affect sales figures that rich guys will look at in a board meeting before giving themselves huge bonuses?
destrucules: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nKPHd5I65mQ
spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216>
https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion
this article is great and has successfully scared the shit out of me haha
brain4brain: Are there any digital moravec question left? Most of it seems solved and the one that aren’t seems like an issue of scale/ research (agentic capabilities), I’ve been looking everywhere and I can’t anything where human can easily do but LLM can’t anymore
clevermoniker: and in ghibli's case its actually increasing sales... lol
spacetimetsunami: I think about this so often when people get all pissy about the ghibli shit
spacetimetsunami: It popularizes ghibli
spacetimetsunami: Why would they even give a shit
destrucules: ARC-AGI 2 kinda but not really
st.sioux: ai art stole my soul bro
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ak.vs_: AI is going to humiliate most or all of humanity once everyone has access to on demand superintelligent analysis of anything and everything, because it will expose the true motivations behind all the things that people do and say. Also it's likely that everything that everyone has ever done on the internet will be able to be pattern matched and traced back to it's source by an AI with a context length the size of the internet
ak.vs_: Ultimately will be a good thing for humanity
.histic: <@471334973379706900>
realelonmuskx: AI DID THIS BRO WTF
_cloudost: Can't wait to see how ChatGPT-5 generates images
st.sioux: im not scared of that really, most motivations are pretty superficial or evident already
realelonmuskx: forget about it look at this now, its insane, imagine in 2030. artists are completely Grilled, Roasted, Baked, Broiled, Toasted, Sautéed, Pan-fried, Stir-fried, Fried, Seared, Boiled, Steamed, Poached, Braised, Smoked, Slow-cooked, Simmered, Charred, Caramelized, Blistered, Crisped, Crusted, Flambéed
.histic: https://x.com/jonathanbfine/status/1905446551251534117
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: what am i looking at
realelonmuskx:
ak.vs_:
realelonmuskx: we hab to exterminate ai artists
zonchao: he in fact DID NOT learn it
_cloudost: Mods, pin this pin
_cloudost: 📌
.histic: i had to give a rebuttal back.
(yes i liked my own reply lol)
st.sioux: i wanted to stalk you but i cant even use x
.histic: i don't even use xitter seriously.
i just reply to people sometimes.
don't post <:idk:1136264106937171999>
st.sioux: praise musk for not making a functioning website
.histic: brain4brain has twitter too
https://x.com/NotBrain4brain
realelonmuskx: why antis dont raid open ai hq
.histic: because they don't have a soul <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_cloudost: OpenAI needs to install turrets soon to protect themselves from criminal antis
_cloudost: Neat reply
_cloudost: Nailed
realelonmuskx: if they dont resist and only cry online nothing will happen. this guys https://www.stopai.info/ still alive?
wellmeaningalien: https://www.ktvu.com/news/stop-ai-organization-protest-outside-openai-headquarters
.histic: someone ghiblify this or make it like south park.
st.sioux: their website is shit, should use ai to improve it
wellmeaningalien: lol it fits right in
.histic: i got this
wellmeaningalien: oh this one is better ngl
wellmeaningalien: u using sora right
.histic: yeah, two outputs.
also, you can queue outputs too. so they generate simultaneously.
wellmeaningalien: nice
.histic:
.histic: original -> south park version
wellmeaningalien: this is funny as shit lmao
.histic: https://x.com/OlafCodeCoach/status/1902967116313297271
i'm going to reply this to their post <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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literallyvarane: Quick question. When OpenAI talks about rate limits for its models, is that LITERALLY any message?
For example, if I’m using o3, I give it some big prompt with a big response, then ask it to quickly just release the first word of that response, is *literally any* response from the model, regardless of length, counted?
literallyvarane: Is it a practical point to switch the model down to 4o for secondary questions etc?
zoermena: Do you have plus?
literallyvarane: Yeah
literallyvarane: I don’t actually think I’m going to run into the rate limits, I’m just curious exactly how it’s tracked.
zoermena: It’s for every message AFAIK, I doubt you send that many messages but it’s easy to distribute it between o4 minis and o3 for a day
trojan09205: Yes it should be
trojan09205: I use that approach bro. You can get the bigger smarter models to do the thinking and then send that chat log to a dumber cheaper model. I do that when I want to generate a Mermaid diagram based on advanced thinking. Usually even gpt-4o-mini is fine for mermaid and I avoid paying the extra cost
sarik0497: Honestly, I'd not be surprised either.
We (humans) are already observing a small tribe on Sentinel Island, trying not to interfere with them. It's not entirely insane to then imagine that far more advanced beings are doing the same with us, waiting for us to reach a certain threshold before making contact.
fractalcomputer: Pointless anthropomorphism.
spicy.lemonade: What happens after we get accepted into the galactic federation
spicy.lemonade: Do we have to become a hive mind <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: I recon the ASI will be doing the negotiations
bob082957: Yeh I want the blueprints for the replicator to
trent_k: he's a punk bitch
trent_k: fat dropout retard scamming money
futurist_wizard: There probably isn't a galactic federation
trent_k: altho
trent_k: he's very funny
trent_k: his 5000 word essay about how it's not his fault he's fat and eating too much has nothing to do with ending up fat is one of the funniest things ive ever read
trent_k: pure, uncut copium. inject in right into my veins. copium blackpill speedball
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: It couldn't of been as bad as that one time I heard someone say that the reason they are fat is because bigger people need more oxygen and thats what makes them gain weight <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
trent_k: best fat cope ive ever heard i think is the "aquatic ape theory"
trent_k: that one's a fun rabbit hole
trent_k: it's almost like a conspiracy theory + evolutionary hand-waving for fatsos
hey1_1hey: Thats a new one to me. Is that something to do with that being fat is actually a good thing because it makes you float in the water better ?
hikukomoru: Subcutaneous fat to protect from the cold water
hikukomoru: Like walruses
alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt make much sense
futurist_wizard: Elaborate my dear boy
alejandrozarzuelo: chinese efficiency means that they have a very large base to start making millions of robots almost instantly, but the growth rate eill not be exponential
alejandrozarzuelo: the growth from 0 to 10m (the order of magnitude of the number of cars china produces) will take very little despite it representing a 1000x growth from current production rate
futurist_wizard: I believe china is expected to produce 5,000 robots in 2025
futurist_wizard: 5-10k
alejandrozarzuelo: meanwhile, the later 100x production factor will take longer since we would need to increase metal production beyond what we currently have and energy
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why this is not software
alejandrozarzuelo: you cannot accurately forecast yearly production by using software logic
futurist_wizard: Where are you getting this millions of numbers from
alejandrozarzuelo: lets say that androids are economically feasible to build this year of 2025, going from 10k to 10m a year will take only one economic cycle, 5 years only, it has happened before
this is a doubling of every 6 months during this period
meanwhile, going from 10m to 100m or 1000m a year will take muuuuuuch longer as you cannot leverage current production capacity you need to create new productive capacity
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memlaswaif: redditors deserve worse
wellmeaningalien: HOORAY REDDIT WE DID IT
memlaswaif: wholesome chungus elon reddit Trump bad moment
ailoveyoom: AskOuija 💀
burnytech: https://tenor.com/view/steamroller-flattened-frogger-arcade-cartoon-gif-3947370806596607199
alejandrozarzuelo: chinese AI is ahead of US AI on video gen
alejandrozarzuelo: has been for a while
_cloudost: Should we kill antis
brain4brain: Don't scoop down to their level
brain4brain: They are animals
brain4brain: We should be civilized and just ban them off the internet
brain4brain: They get excluded from part of society where they aren't a loser
brain4brain: And shitty argument can't be made anynore
brain4brain: Win-win
popsiclejohnithan: This is only the beginning, Luddite violence is only going to get worse and worse as they get more desperate, expect bombings and other terrorist attacks.
brain4brain: And it's also more plausible, the SF tech-bro that is pro-AI basically controls the internet
brain4brain: I don't think they can actually do any damage
retrerox: Good morning
retrerox: Bom dia
brain4brain: Data centers are very well guarded
popsiclejohnithan: Never underestemate the enemy.
retrerox: Guten tag
retrerox: Uh
retrerox: Idk however AI says good morning
brain4brain: Gyat mogging
brain4brain: The reason they attack Tesla instead of the factory is because the factory is well guarded, the Tesla are not
brain4brain: These anti poses no threate except for being very annoying
popsiclejohnithan: For the sake of us all i hope you're right.
thedon7075: 4.1 benchmarks
popsiclejohnithan: If these fools had their way we'd all still be in caves.
brain4brain: As you say, they are fools
brain4brain: They won't and can't do anything
brain4brain: Most of them are reddit dwelling people
popsiclejohnithan: History has shown that fools can still cause a lot of damage.
retrerox: So its 4.1 big?
brain4brain: As expected, seems to correlate to size, in ARC AGI and live bench and X/O bench it got worse than 4.5 but outperform 4.5 at coding
thedon7075: 4.1 mini achieving the same score as 4o at 25x less cost is a good sign
brain4brain: Indeed they can
popsiclejohnithan: That's what i'm saying, we shouldn't shrug these people off, they are a threat trust me, espeshally as their numbers grow, and their numbers will grow, most people are anti A.I., we are outnumbered by them.
brain4brain: The tariff war cuts off the humanoid supply
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brain4brain: I want AGI 2025
brain4brain: My own math says AGI 2025
spacetimetsunami: Check it;
ASI 2025
AGI 2026
LEV 2027
FDVR, 1992..
Super mega ultra ASI, 2025 (rn tho, it’s me)
rayanquitplayin: How does tokenization differ across languages?
brain4brain: 7 hours remaining
st.sioux: agi in 7 hours????
brain4brain: Vector space connects it maybe, I'm not sure, I only watched a few 3blue1brown videos
brain4brain: Close, but more open source reasoning model
brain4brain: Mamba
brain4brain: O3-mini level
_3sphere: FDVR 1 month ago, I was lucid for 4 seconds
rayanquitplayin: Vectors like in math?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
_3sphere: Shared embeddings sure, but generally non-English gets tokenized less efficiently
alejandrozarzuelo: yes?
alejandrozarzuelo: we all store information in vectors
alejandrozarzuelo: we think in highly dimensional vector spaced
alejandrozarzuelo: in fact this is an argument for the similarity of thought between us and AI
rayanquitplayin:
rayanquitplayin: I don’t think it’s very similar
rayanquitplayin: Tbh I think AI thought is inherently better
st.sioux: imma store some information in his vector
alejandrozarzuelo: very similar in the sense that it couldnt be any other way
rayanquitplayin: What does this mean? Humans do this with their brain?
frittata: Cats and dogs are definitely self aware on a low level <:bruh:1303825143344267305> I can only imagine those of you that think otherwise have never had one, or have never paid attention to it if you have
frittata: I will take no questions at this time
frittata: Anyway how does this relate to AI
_3sphere: I will add that cats are definitely aware of their bodies too 🐱
ailoveyoom: As a dog, can confirm 🐕🦺
rayanquitplayin: Cats have 9 lives
brain4brain: I accidentally lucid dreamed many time, usually from fearing too much then realizing it was a dream and tried to escape by swimming in the air upward, but another time I accidentally did it, this time I use it wisely for something 😈
Only lasted a few seconds though, when prophetic headset comes out and proven definitely buying
brain4brain: Absolutely
brain4brain: Another is that sometimes Gemini generated something in Indian right before coming back to English token and I don’t know why
alejandrozarzuelo: cats and dogs dont dream of LEV
_3sphere: "Inefficient" token use can actually be good for thinking, as shown by the thinking dots paper
_3sphere: Where they had it just go ............ and some thinking went on in the residual stream while generating the dots
rayanquitplayin: I didn’t realize vectors take up physical space
brain4brain: Also do you guys think LLM generate new content or just regurgitate stuff
brain4brain: Depends on what vector you’re talking about
brain4brain: LLM vector is just a bunch of number values that is large enough to be emergent to a sort of semantic understanding, I think
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memlaswaif: I like being happy
futurist_wizard: I think the real world has a positive ratio on suffering
oooooooooog: me too, it's my favorite feeling
oooooooooog: but it's way too easy to feel happy
oooooooooog: you just have to smile and bam
oooooooooog: happy
oooooooooog: whereas u can't get sad by frowning
oooooooooog: it's harder to do
futurist_wizard: Happiness is gay
oooooooooog: thats what the word means
memlaswaif: rezero single handedly made me stop watching weeb stuff
futurist_wizard: Gay men are happy when they are kissing boys, this isn't a coincidence
oooooooooog: how 😭
oooooooooog: what part in particular bro
futurist_wizard: And then you became happy after rejecting anime
oooooooooog: is it because subaru is cringe... ??? i can get that at least. sometimes i have to close my eyes when that happens, or it's too intense for me
destrucules: Already are
destrucules: Humans typically use about 10^24 FLOPs to reach cognitive maturity
spacetimetsunami: No, I mean levels of computation relative to cognitive tasks.
memlaswaif: Probably a while
memlaswaif: Idthink with current paradigm
futurist_wizard: I think about 20
futurist_wizard: Until AGI
st.sioux: we need at least 10,000
oooooooooog: 10,000 what, oranges, monkeys, lemon?
destrucules: The human brain typically activates ~10-25% of its synapses per cortical layer per forward pass. So with 10^14 total synapses, at least 10^13 activate per forward pass. Only a few of these happen per second, tied to reaction time. So a few times 10^13 activations per second. 32 years is 10^9 seconds. That's a few times 10^22 activations in your brain by the time you reach adulthood. So, why say 10^24? Because people will usually argue that no, we actually do this professing, or that processing, or no you didn't consider this, or actually the average firing rate per synapse is 10^0±1 Hz, or whenever. If it's 10 Hz per synapse across the whole brain, then it's 10^15 x 10^9 = 10^24 activations. You could also say there's a few floating point operations per activation, so a few 10^22 activations is maybe 10^23 or a few 10^23 FLOPs.
futurist_wizard: 5,000 would just about do it
spacetimetsunami: I’m seeing that humans have 10^18 FLOPS in the brain. Some LLMs exceed 10^24
futurist_wizard: Maybe 7,000
otub: we need about tree fiddy
spacetimetsunami: Also I don’t think anyone seriously thinks LLMs are as computationally efficient as the human brain.
destrucules: I mean, how many tokens to match the human brain? If we exhibit about 10^14 activations per second, then 10^14 / 17e9 = 6k tokens to equate to one second of human thought
destrucules: 10^18 is way too low
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I’m trying to read some stuff about it right now. I mean we’re just trying to define how much FLOPS the human brain has in storage, right?
destrucules: Llama 4 Maverick with 17B active parameters per token is absolutely doing more with 6k tokens than you or I do with one second of thinking time
spacetimetsunami: Or would that not be a good analogue to how it’s measured in LLMs
destrucules: Storage? That's not what FLOPs are
oooooooooog: floating point operations per second
st.sioux: flops is floating point operations per second
oooooooooog: ypuispelled it wtng
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ldj: the page is bugged lol
ldj: I don't want to set false expectations though, I think I probably have some beyond the norm problems with cellular oxidation and inflammatory processes, maybe due to certain genetic predispositions (which also effects neuroinflammation in the brain and likely plays a role into my early arthritis) So I very well may just benefit from this significantly more than the average person would, and maybe the average person would hardly notice anything, especially depending on how perceptive they are to these types of changes in their body or psyche.
drewsni: nah its probably gonna be good for me, brocolli is actually the one veg i really do not enjoy eating lol
a1c4p0ne: So don’t use any of those <:ez:1136267305521774634>
destrucules: Very possible if we slow down
metaldragon01: i prob should wait to see how gpt 5 and claude 4 do but still.
metaldragon01: its time
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/CongWei1230/status/1906877381899415945
metaldragon01: gen 4 + this = AI movies this year
metaldragon01: grrr nm no code >.<
metaldragon01: Meta though so.....maybe?
zoermena: Is eight sleep as good as they say it is? If you could describe a before and after of sleeping with eight sleep? Thanks! 👍
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is perfect
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: the best counter
theaiguy69420_89814: I just take D3 and magnesium
theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz not a lot of sun where I live
ldj: I've had it for so many years now, it's hard to say.
Biggest things comfort wise is definitely just being able to control the temperature of my bed though.
I have the eightsleep 2, but they are on version 4 already so im sure its even better
ldj: but with the gen 2, the surface is a bit stiff and rough, but I have a gel topper that I put between the sensors and the sheet and its mostly pretty comfortable still, but overall it makes your mattress atleast a bit more firm though.
st.sioux: TIL there is a subscription matress
ldj: and then ofc you have the health tracking parts, it really depends how into the whole health tracking thing you are, but I personally find it very valuable, especially the fact that I don't have to wear an apple watch or anything like that to sleep in order to get those metrics.
ldj: No I don't pay a subscription
ldj: I think they maybe have a subscription for the pro features now, but I am grandfathered in, since I bought it before they started charging subscription
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
brain4brain: Send me the full resolution pics, I need it in case I need to counter an anti
brain4brain: Wait
brain4brain: I can just ask GPT-4o to make a Ghibli version
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1906829849584624016?t
drewsni: protip, just buy the chilisleep
drewsni: https://sleep.me/product/cube-sleep-system
drewsni: ive had mine for 5 years now no issue
zoermena: One day 🙏
drewsni: genuinely the 500 dollars i spent on it has changed my sleep
drewsni: literally like 25 cents a day
drewsni: Ok I’ve had it 3.8 years but still
drewsni: You can sl
drewsni: Dropped my resting heart rate 10 bpm
mihrcelium: You're kind of selling me on this, ngl.
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spicy.lemonade: for resume
hikukomoru: Do u like the new update
ailoveyoom: Have you heard of Vintage Story?
hikukomoru: Geneva Suggestions**
oooooooooog: is it ok as long as it's all clones of myself?
futurist_wizard: You have a very spooky mind
oooooooooog: sounds old
artemisfowl887394: So, you wanna basically enslave yourself.
anathemaofmankind: I make fanfics where I cuck everyone as god
ailoveyoom: It's like Minecraft but more hardcore/realistic survival 🥺
artemisfowl887394: Even if it's your copy, it's still sentient isn't it?
oooooooooog: well yeah, we would take turns
hikukomoru: Freaky mf
artemisfowl887394: Actually you'd need a perfect ASI to copy intelligence to play out your fantasies.
anathemaofmankind: And then I warp reality to make the original mc a weak loser
futurist_wizard: I haven't tried it yet, i don't even know what it is, monolith or something
fractalcomputer: I think a copy of myself would be perfectly fine with enslavement by myself. Likewise for murder.
trojan09205: I do yes. Kind of hard to find the time now with a full time job but there was a stretch for a couple years i was just crushing the side projects
zonchao:
anathemaofmankind: And then I cuck myself
hikukomoru: There's tons of new biomes and races + new systems like religions and subspecies
anathemaofmankind: Cuck singularity
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/lvepLdxDUEM?si=0G4M8vyVRMWuPWPj
artemisfowl887394: What if someone doesn't wanna be a human in a human life and has realized he's not a human but an AI trapped in a human body? What then?
hikukomoru: My favourite new race is the cat people
hikukomoru: I have them genocide the others
zonchao: sievs alt <:monkaScared:1274495330435600535>
oooooooooog: why would either of us retain our mortal shells, we would be equal in all manners, surely, as a hive mind
artemisfowl887394: So there's a part of you ready for enslavement? I find that very bizzare.
fractalcomputer: Hive mind, you say?
oooooooooog: well of course, how else can i assure minimization of value drift?
fractalcomputer: It's all me, shouldn't that be fine enough?
spicy.lemonade: example if you dont mind?
artemisfowl887394: That depends upon the scenario you're playing in your Simulation.
futurist_wizard: Are they like the elder scrolls people
futurist_wizard: The khatricanhfdky people
futurist_wizard: Or whatever
oooooooooog: hey, if you've ever been enslaved in minecraft you would get it
futurist_wizard: They are called
ailoveyoom: Khajiits 😡
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trojan09205: Making a single post is different than setting up a stateful chatbot
perish0801: But there’s no software that just lets an AI just take control of the PC and navigate on its own
perish0801: Like operator of OpenAI
trojan09205: Look into Manus AI
It doesnt control your machine, but it can spin up virtual machines of different flavors
perish0801: Oh I’ll look it up
trojan09205: My brother was raving about Manus this weekend
xskydragon0: Maybe you need a API of OpenAI, that's works for you too.
perish0801: I see
xskydragon0: I'm on Manus's waitlist <:catcry:1187466366006087862>
xskydragon0: You can create a bot on Python that's make a call on OpenAI API. The bot can analyze the site and post something you want to.
But if you want a AI control your computer, maybe only with Manus.
zonchao: isnt manus just another pplx 🤔
perish0801: I see
perish0801: I looked up manus
perish0801: Isnt it doing stuff on its own computer
perish0801: Not ours
xskydragon0: pplx for me it's closer to GPT than Manus. But I don't have access to Manus to confirm it <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
himekokatagiri: <@471334973379706900> hello lemons
spicy.lemonade: Hey
himekokatagiri: What's up
perish0801: I’ve figured it out
perish0801: Zapier and autogpt
st.sioux: wdym
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 50 a day?
st.sioux: where are people getting these limits from bro
st.sioux: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9824962-openai-o3-and-o4-mini-usage-limits-on-chatgpt-and-the-api
xskydragon0: O3 for me is far too superior than o4-mini-high
In some tests that I'm made here.
zoermena: Real?
zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1915055206389465147
spicy.lemonade: No huge drops this week
spicy.lemonade: Everyone will be at iclr
literallyvarane: We’re cooked cancel the singularity AI winter incoming.
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/ns123abc/status/1915059964462223607
maintcrew: yep before it was crazy and unusable but o3 is very lame
maintcrew: its like
user: Hi, whats up
assistant: \*searches the web for 2 minutes\* Nothing much wbu?
zonchao: <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/nakumbo/status/1914909352273551559
maintcrew: unicode prompt injection?
zonchao: probably not
zonchao: <@1272646380233560067>
drewsni: someone on another server im 90% sure had this happen to them and their account got banned for an hour
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alejandrozarzuelo: Wasn't he banned
hikukomoru: jgudy left
alejandrozarzuelo: I am not talking much here because it's holy week
alejandrozarzuelo: Ergo
alejandrozarzuelo: My family has come home
trojan09205: *sad face*
alejandrozarzuelo: And I am busy with that
trojan09205: Nice bro happy holy week
trojan09205: I celebrate passover its also holy week lol 😂
hikukomoru: I didn't know you were religious
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not, my family is
trojan09205: I havent been around for like 2.5 months
hikukomoru: I genuinely haven't seen a single person here who even cares about holy week
trojan09205: If i recall, he is Spanish
trojan09205: Religious country
hikukomoru: Your family must be like super hardcore christians
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, becsuse portuguése people are heretics
In Asturias the Holy week is not that important
alejandrozarzuelo: But in Castilla
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn
hikukomoru: And I'm Portuguese, also a religious country
No one cares about holy week
alejandrozarzuelo: Spain is one of the most atheist countries in the world
alejandrozarzuelo: But Spanish atheists love the holy week
alejandrozarzuelo: You know, "cultural catholics"
hikukomoru: I swear you guys are still stuck in the times of the Inquisition
trojan09205: Lol mb. I am woefully ignorant about actual christian practices like cultural. I try to study religion though i think i have an okay grasp of the theology as a whole
trojan09205: I work for a german company. Theyre off there tomorrow and monday. Idk if that signals religious
alejandrozarzuelo: This happens in many countries
People lose their faith much much more easily than they lose traditions
alejandrozarzuelo: I know many atheists who part take in ramadan
alejandrozarzuelo: Because it's fun
alejandrozarzuelo: Same thing here
trojan09205: Pretty much the same for passover as well with jews
hikukomoru: Besides christmas I never celebrate any religious holiday
trojan09205: Ill be back a bit later friends
alejandrozarzuelo: In Castilla, one of the 4 nations of Spain, thr holy week is VERY important
trojan09205: ✌️
hikukomoru: The bonuses of having a family of atheists
alejandrozarzuelo: I live in Asturias which is halfway between Castilla and Galicia
alejandrozarzuelo: So here it's not that important
himekokatagiri: Tomorrow I don't work either
alejandrozarzuelo: In León, the city where my sister studies, it's extremely important
Everyone goes "kill Jews" during the week
(kill Jews is a way to say drink lemon juice)
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ldj: my bad, sometimes discord glitches out and when I open the server it shows me messages from like weeks or months ago
3ds0662: That’s unfair
destrucules: I think this is a very misanthropic perspective. You're implying that everyone in power whose messaging is bad is weak willed and lacks integrity, casting aside the incentives that shape the way they're able to present online
destrucules: I don't think a lot of people realize just how trapped these people actually are. How all of their power is tied up in whether the community of other rich people favors them. How quickly it can all turn to vapor if they say the wrong thing
3ds0662: In stargate sg-1 there were two episodes about such races, one the go’auld the parasites genetic memory and all knowledge of their predecessor was passed down through reproduction. The second was a much more darker story where they did achieve synthetic neurons and nanotechnology for accelerated learning speed but basically one person consumed insane amounts of knowledge to then pass on to the entire civilization. Once they gave their neurons and knowledge away they were basically an infantile potato 🥔.
destrucules: People in power do not *have* power. They are simply employed to execute that power according to mandates they do not dictate
destrucules: Imagining that you yourself would magically be the exception... It's egotistical, but I think mostly it's misanthropic and cynical
destrucules: I think it's valid to criticize scientific institutions as well as more corporate institutions for being fundamentally corrupted by money
metaldragon01: Money means different things to different people.
Not everyone is tied to it the way you think
metaldragon01: Especially to the point of throwing away one's integrity
metaldragon01: You actually in most cases don't want to work with the person that's that financially motivated or manipulated
destrucules: If you don't play the money game by the rules, you get booted out. Having integrity doesn't fix this
metaldragon01: Unreliable
metaldragon01: .....
ldj: I'm confused in how exactly this is related.
> They are simply employed to execute that power according to mandates they do not dictate.
Okay but we're not talking about the job responsibilities the person is executing on, or being directed to execute, we're talking about things they do outside of the job. Such as talking to friends online about their perspective on the industry.
metaldragon01: Not everyone is the idea of a soulless ambitious person because they have a level of success
destrucules: Imagine two scientists. The first scientist plays the money game. She applies for grants and wins, and her team does some real science, but it's science that is favorable to the grant committees. The second scientist studies only what he believes is the most valuable. He applies for grants too, but his applications do not meet the requirements of the grant committees, so he doesn't get awarded any grants. He doesn't do any science because he has no funding.
Which scientist is the better scientist?
destrucules: That is not outside of their job
metaldragon01: Neither is better
3ds0662: Idk about that, people have done some fucked things to others over money even look at our divorce rates number one reason finances
destrucules: One of them does science, the other does not. The one that does science is clearly the better scientist
metaldragon01: People fuck each other over every inconvenience
metaldragon01: They both do science. One just does it in a more narrow domain
3ds0662: Yeah can’t even get real friends either one minute someone’s cool the next they have a knife in your back humanity is completely fickle
destrucules: That's *my* point. If you think everyone who bends the knee to incentives is doing so because they're a soulless monster, you've gotta recognize that that means *almost everyone* is a soulless monster to you. That's a very dark way of seeing the world, and I am arguing against that
destrucules: No, the guy with no funding does no science. I said that explicitly
metaldragon01: Was a silly scenario in that case. Science doesn't always require funding
metaldragon01: Financial incentives aren't always the prime incentive
metaldragon01: It can be for a lot of people but it's very important to be able to recognize when it isn't
ldj: In this case it is though, there is no mandate in this situation of "if you tell people that your perspective on the world is this different way, then we'll penalize you or take money away from you"
*maybe* you can make that argument indirectly due to stock price being effected for example, but in the hypotheticals we talked about even that would be very miniscule and insignificant, likely not even having a 0.1% change on the persons wealth(even if someone on discord became convinced to invest 1 million into nvidia, the change in stock price caused by that would likely be much less than even 0.1%), and then there is other positive factors you have to weigh that I mention, such as the persons trust worthiness actually increasing, such as the question (does this persons new position increase the accuracy of their perspective on the world by more than 0.1%?)
betting $1,000 in a discord server on something for example would likely far outweigh any financial incentive they gain in their profession from sharing disingenuous perspectives of the world in a discord server.
metaldragon01: Courts would have it pretty easy if the motive was always money tbh
ldj: > If you think everyone who bends the knee to incentives is doing so because they're a soulless monster
just so its clear, if you think this is what I believe, it's not.
It's simply the fact that some people are more effected by financial incentives than others, not just a black and white of Angels versus Soulless monsters, but everything in-between, some people let financial incentives skew their stances on things to huge degree, it also depends on the situation of how the financial incentives are set up too, and what behaviour we're measuring as being influenced by it.
_wwwwww: musk is funny
_wwwwww: > DeeperSearch
ldj: > You're implying that everyone in power whose messaging is bad is weak willed and lacks integrity
That's definitely not the intention, and I'm struggling to see how you conclude such implication.
btw when you say "messaging is bad" do you mean people who have messaging that I disagree with? Or people that have messaging that is proven to be significantly financially influenced when you do mech interp on their brain? I still disagree in either interpretation though.
> the incentives that shape the way they're able to present online
In this scenario, do you mean the chance of Nvidia stock increasing by maybe 0.1% or 1% max if I talk really good about it on a discord server, thus causing my equity in this hypothetical to be upto 1% more valuable? On that point I would say 2 main things: 1. This is not even exclusive to getting a job at Nvidia, since this kind of financial incentive would apply to anyone that puts any significant portion of their money into Nvidia stock. 2. The amount of possible upside from this I'd say is definitely quite insignificant, yes there is a financial incentive bound to effect their behavior to some minor degree, but overall on net, I'd argue it's practically neutral or even net positive, due to the persons enhanced perspective on the world from now being an insider.
ldj:
ldj: I could see this poll result going either way tbh
gamerbath: u said the last one was the last one
gamerbath: ...
ldj: on one hand, investing into public nvidia stock lacks the increase in knowledge that getting an actual Job at Nvidia would give you. So you can't really make the argument here of inside knowledge balancing out the downside of financial incentive.
On the other hand, the financial incentive is still likely so small from hyping up nvidia stock in discord, that it would be very insignifcant and virtually zero, unless the person is irrationally becoming emotionally attached towards convincing themselves that Nvidia is better, as some sort of coping mechanism to attach their identity to the sentiment of the company, even if it's just the sentiment amongst their personal friends.
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hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
hikukomoru: Wrong
joaoluz19: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1904514274841469273
_3sphere: better but still kinda cursed
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/lumiichu-headbang-vtube-vrchat-gif-25875264
_3sphere: vrchat looks much better
hikukomoru: AGI needs to make my dollies real
joaoluz19: We were meant to stay virtual
hey1_1hey: Vrchat is what lonley shizophrenics gather
hey1_1hey: Never again
st.sioux: "A biblical false prophet was a servant of the devil attempting to lead people away from the truth."
hikukomoru:
i_like_over_9000_turtles: That cat is not dancing...
gamerbath: cmon guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3K43FHRKo
gamerbath: it's starting very soon'
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: tf did zuck do
connorsphone.: It’s starting right now
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://x.com/CamsAIshitposts/status/1649103596930187290
hey1_1hey: This already looks like heat
st.sioux: its the woke mind virus bro
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Try not to laugh
gamerbath: yay it's starting
connorsphone.: Sammy’s here
user.not.using: just go for grok, its innovative reasoning is just incomparable
i_like_over_9000_turtles: link?
trent_k: The twink
i_like_over_9000_turtles: link
connorsphone.: https://www.youtube.com/live/2f3K43FHRKo?si=4pz_ELJlJRytHFpw
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: dude
gamerbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3K43FHRKo
connorsphone.: Samuel Altmanstration
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1904590700332667371?
hikukomoru: Sam looks so gay today
like always
gamerbath: look in the corner
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
i_like_over_9000_turtles: ty
i_like_over_9000_turtles: ty
joaoluz19: You know it's serious when they bring the twink
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sieventer: https://x.com/wordgrammer/status/1913100275302224275?s=46
.histic: relatable
.histic: it's garbage
trey6033: Higher hallucination rate probably doesn't help
.histic: on a small scale it's good.
.histic: but even on cursor it seems stun locked.
output lengths are mid.
.histic: didn't see this,
https://x.com/HarshaGadekar/status/1913420963901063570
"OpenAI writes that “more research is needed” to understand why hallucinations are getting worse as it scales up reasoning models." <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: It’s so freaking over
aero447: 2035.
spicy.lemonade: You’re misunderstanding hallucinations
spicy.lemonade: imagine someone asked you to write a 500 line program to do something
spicy.lemonade: In one shot
spicy.lemonade: No sources
spicy.lemonade: Just from memory of syntax
spicy.lemonade: It would not compile
himekokatagiri: We have Gemini who cares
.histic: gemini is the goat, i can't deny any longer.
thedon7075: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/18/openais-new-reasoning-ai-models-hallucinate-more/ over
himekokatagiri: Gemini image gen is shit though
himekokatagiri: can't wait for the full model
himekokatagiri: That isn't a preview
himekokatagiri: I hope they fix it
waspothegreat: hallucinating means they must not have fine tuned enough
waspothegreat: always gotta be openai to let me down on its hype every single time
trey6033: Apparently the issue doesn't get resolved even from fine tuning
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has perfect long context understanding
spicy.lemonade: Just give it documentation before code
waspothegreat: maybe sam altman just sucks at making models
thedon7075: its now clear that these reasoning thinking models will not lead to agi
spicy.lemonade: It doesn’t really matter though
spicy.lemonade: Was already discussed in ai 2027 paper
spicy.lemonade: The reasoning models are for algorithm and architecture improvements
spicy.lemonade: For these labs
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers each have top 200 competitive programmer on earth or higher aiding in research
spicy.lemonade: I think this is the last year of the pure LLMs tho
spicy.lemonade: Gpt6 will be a world model with a ground truth system
zoermena: This isn’t clear to me yet, I understand what you say and how any model would struggle but why would this post suggest that there was an increase in hallucinations now? Or is it misleading.
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers already gave a theory. Probably small errors that when mixed with reasoning scale become big hallucinations
zoermena: That doesn’t sound great but it’s likely that it’ll fix itself in some months.
zoermena: The sleeper computer paper rings a bell as an aid to this situation but I’m not very certain.
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.histic: depends
spicy.lemonade: this week would mena today
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: no chance they drop right after
.histic: ok next
.histic: but imagine.. today.
.histic: that'd be unexpected
.histic: it's 4:20 am here. 😴
burnytech: Today's the day we accelerate https://x.com/btibor91/status/1910237861674353108
.histic: wtf
.histic: i found a glitch
.histic: https://chatgpt.com/?model=o4-mini-high
.histic: i guess it's technically not a glitch.
.histic: the system knows it's a real option but won't allow me to access it
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: top left
spicy.lemonade: thisl be glorious
spicy.lemonade: i expect o3 to bet marginally better than 2.4 pro
spicy.lemonade: and o4 mini high to be the greatest thing at math
spicy.lemonade: IMO level
spicy.lemonade: #10 coder
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: if o4 full is #1
spicy.lemonade: what i expect from gpt 5
better native image gen
spicy.lemonade: reasoning over image
spicy.lemonade: more agentic
_cloudost: GPT-5o will have native IMG generator
_cloudost: Not gpt5
spicy.lemonade: they arent doing o
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 is gpt5o
spicy.lemonade: i expect better native voice aswell
spicy.lemonade: like sesame
spicy.lemonade: i expect it to score in 70th percentile atleast on international math olympiad
spicy.lemonade: 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: 70% frontier math
spicy.lemonade: and no sign of reasoning slowing
ailoveyoom: What do we wait for next after GPT-5, Claude 4, Gemini 3, R2, Qwen 3, Grok 4 tho?
spicy.lemonade: 5.5
ailoveyoom: o5? Lol
spicy.lemonade: wont be o5
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spicy.lemonade: ngl
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
O3 full, O3 Pro and o4-mini coming.
And GPT-5 said to be “much better than we originally thought”
https://x.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998?s=46
spicy.lemonade: hype
hey1_1hey: I wonder what made them go "Damn bro this shit is fire" all of a sudden
spicy.lemonade: breakthrough
hey1_1hey: I wonder what kind. All I hope is that OS jumps on it in the first 0.0001 seconds trying to disasemble it and to recreate it
hey1_1hey: Then I can have my 100m model running at gpt4o level 👌
spicy.lemonade: i hope gpt5 can prompt me\
hey1_1hey: In what way?
hey1_1hey: Like ask you questions?
spicy.lemonade: it can reach out to me
spicy.lemonade: without being prompted
spicy.lemonade: perhaps call me middle of the night
shirethedreamer:
spicy.lemonade: lol
hey1_1hey: Oh that happned one time as a bug <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.0xunkn0wn: i wonder if o4 mini will be better than gemini 2.5 pro
hey1_1hey: I saw a tweet about it and 4o reached out to a couple people unprompted. Shit was crazy
spicy.lemonade: alan will be vindicated
spicy.lemonade: maybe his benchmark is correct
.0xunkn0wn: and if o5 will be agi 🙏
shirethedreamer: i mean
he is already wrong
i dont think there is much vindication after the dead line
hey1_1hey: "Hey babe what you up to 🫦 "
spicy.lemonade: i bet o3 full is better than 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: how
spicy.lemonade: he hasn put it at 100% yet
spicy.lemonade: technically he isnt wrong
.0xunkn0wn: yeah probably
.0xunkn0wn: but 2.5 pro is free
.0xunkn0wn: and o3 full is 😭
spicy.lemonade: im sure they improved
shirethedreamer: he said "agi is months away"
more than a year ago...
spicy.lemonade: mini models suck
.0xunkn0wn: yeah
spicy.lemonade: mini models are only ever good for specific math and coding problems
.0xunkn0wn: o3 mini was worse in coding than 4o 😭
.0xunkn0wn: like
.0xunkn0wn: it didnt know how to format code n shit
.0xunkn0wn: like in the `` thingies
spicy.lemonade: his predictins have nthing to do with his actual scale moving fr
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futurist_wizard: Feeling aggressive today
hikukomoru: You talk like someone who spends their entire life on /r9k/ and /pol/
That's why
st.sioux: reminds me of fractalcomputer
ailoveyoom: Spare your poor fleshlight
.wolfnacht: fake, i spend most of my time on /x/
futurist_wizard: Never used one
hikukomoru: When aren't you
wellmeaningalien: yo is livebench dead for anyonee else
futurist_wizard: I find them disgusting tbh
wellmeaningalien: wheres new deepseek v3
hikukomoru: Your always a bitch
oooooooooog: my pfp is my leg in minecraft
wellmeaningalien: on the livebench
ailoveyoom: OnlyFeet
hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about me being a fleshlight but I'll bite my tounge
futurist_wizard: Im a happy person
fractalcomputer: What are mine?
wellmeaningalien: google cooked i wonder how it compares to o3 tho
wellmeaningalien: Nerd
futurist_wizard: You're*
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
hikukomoru: Shut up bitch
fractalcomputer: Komoru, don't call other users "bitches."
futurist_wizard: Exactly
hikukomoru: Sorry daddy
oooooooooog: that was so fast ???
wellmeaningalien: Whats up bitches
futurist_wizard: Thank you teacher
hey1_1hey: I haven't heard from Zonny mommy recently. Where he at
oooooooooog: fractal 9999 wpm typer confirmed??
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/grammar-police-drift-police-car-gif-17312786
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358>
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> is he your favorite femboy
fractalcomputer: Are you an applied mathematician?
hikukomoru: Ban this guy
wellmeaningalien: No I'm a professional idiot
st.sioux: Same thing
inferno0879: how much do they pay you
hikukomoru: 30 year autistic philosophy nerd
hey1_1hey: Theres a word for that you know
Philosopher
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alejandrozarzuelo: this defintion would include animal and artificial art
alejandrozarzuelo: it is very narrow as it doesnt include music
fuhulootogan: how would it include artificial art
alejandrozarzuelo: because AI is creative
fuhulootogan: you
fuhulootogan: do know there are multiple
fuhulootogan: definitionss
fuhulootogan: all fit in the context
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, there are many definitions, under several of which AI art is not art
alejandrozarzuelo: under others it is
st.sioux: music is art
fuhulootogan: define creative
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/cookie-i-love-cookie-sweet-cookie-gif-15282177
alejandrozarzuelo: the ability to come up with new concepts
fuhulootogan: where did you come up with that definition
fuhulootogan: also
alejandrozarzuelo: the use of imagination or original ideas to create something; inventiveness
fuhulootogan: what do you mean by new
alejandrozarzuelo: this is google
alejandrozarzuelo: in either case AI is creative, demonstratively
fuhulootogan: brb
alejandrozarzuelo: AI has created new moves and strategies in the game of go never seen before by any human
alejandrozarzuelo: AI is creative
fuhulootogan: okay
fuhulootogan: first of all
fuhulootogan: not in either case
fuhulootogan: AI cannot "imagine"
alejandrozarzuelo: how can you prove that
fuhulootogan:
fuhulootogan: what does this mean to you
fuhulootogan: how do you interpret this
alejandrozarzuelo: i gave you an example of an AI coming up with new concepts and strategies never seen before, it is a new idea that was not present to the senses of that AI
fuhulootogan: what?
fuhulootogan: what do you even mean by the "senses of the ai"
fuhulootogan: senses of ai???
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah?
fuhulootogan: what do you even mean by that
alejandrozarzuelo: what is a sense?
alejandrozarzuelo: a sense is the ability to recieve information from reality
gamerbath: I think he's talking about RL, there are tons of examples of AI finding something new and creative, like when you set an RL algorithim to play a game and it finds a way to cheat
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spicy.lemonade: o3 will superceed 2.5 and o4 mini will be better at coding
joaoluz19: No just you bro
darkstar0818: if you have then I dont know why you are confused by what I have said.
abundantliving_: Idk
metaldragon01: Nah 2.5 equal or better than og o3 imo
joaoluz19: The same thing I could say about you lol
joaoluz19: Cheers
darkstar0818: l8r
metaldragon01: I highly doubt o4 mini is better than 2.5
metaldragon01: I'd be very surprised
spicy.lemonade: why would they release a model worse than 2.5
spicy.lemonade: given google is about to drop a better one
spicy.lemonade: this week
metaldragon01: They are releasing updated o3
spicy.lemonade: yes o3 full is better than 2.5
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is better than o3 full at coding and math
metaldragon01: .....we are getting a unseen o3 that's better than what they demonstrated
metaldragon01: I expect that to be better than 2.5
metaldragon01: But yes google will be ready
spicy.lemonade: google has like 8 models on lmarena
spicy.lemonade: random names
metaldragon01: New 4.1 big enough upgrade for me
darkstar0818: are we taking bets if oai benchmarks tomorrow use parallel multisampling or not?
metaldragon01: Doesn't matter to me tbh
metaldragon01: Same $20 a month
darkstar0818: Why not? if you are willing to crank up the sampling higher and higher you can hit any benchmark value you want within a wide n percentage points.
spicy.lemonade: then your model is too expensive to run
metaldragon01: As a consumer it's all the same
metaldragon01: As a dev I'll prob still lean google
metaldragon01: Let's see how the pricing looks
darkstar0818: If you release benchmarks that make it look like you have a stronger model and all the other lab needs to do is flip a switch to smoke you, but choose not to then that means something.
metaldragon01: I get access to the High models for the same sub
metaldragon01: It doesn't matter as long as you can access the power
darkstar0818: as a consumer if you pay $20 a month and can only ask 10 questions a day because the model requires parallel cot sampling to reach the marketed values that means something.
metaldragon01: Sure If they need more
metaldragon01: I still use 4o for most things and the others when I need them
darkstar0818: The main point I am making, is if its being done for hype/marketing and its not really representive of the models relative strength then I see no reason why this is praise worthy.
metaldragon01: Openai isn't a hype company
_cloudost: Tried it rn it's the same image gen 3 as in AIstudio
darkstar0818: bruh
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alejandrozarzuelo: I wanna know the real performance
st.sioux: worse than gpt3.5 sadly
st.sioux: as an ai language model
alejandrozarzuelo: Really? It's that bad?
st.sioux: no
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
zoermena: Wait lmao
a1c4p0ne: On the lmarena server someone tested it and it got 3/20 on simple bench
zoermena: Hello
zoermena: Alejandro is Spain back from the dark ages? <@688807313015963693>
ldj: People are still feeling it out, but it looks like Qwen decided to really only show reasoning-biased benchmarks though, so much so that their benchmark suite claims that their 4B model is better than GPT-4o
ldj: And the Largest version looks like it’s getting beat by Gemini-2.5-Pro in most areas
ldj: They didn’t compare to O3, But I suspect it’s likely failing to O3 in most areas too.
a1c4p0ne: The normies only know 4o and image gen for ghibli pics
a1c4p0ne: They don’t touch the reasoning models
a1c4p0ne: Sam knows
a1c4p0ne: More 4o updates
st.sioux: 4o is such a sycophant
st.sioux: annoying
hexachlorophosphazene:
zoermena: Fixed right?
joaoluz19: I agree, it's already impossible to talk
hey1_1hey: Real, I litterly saw soemone say that they are thinking of investing $30,000 into their "shit on a stick business" and chatgpt said it wasn't just a great idea but a GENIUS idea and the guy who suggested it is a God among men
joaoluz19: I saw that they already fixed it, but I think it's still pretty bad.
.0xunkn0wn: is qwen3 the king now or nah
spicy.lemonade: No
ldj: Damn, ChatGpt spitting facts
spicy.lemonade: Qwen3 is slightly worse than o3 mini
alejandrozarzuelo: How many months behind that is?
alejandrozarzuelo: 8?
alejandrozarzuelo: That's pretty bad
spicy.lemonade: Mini high my bad
spicy.lemonade: It’s better than medium
spicy.lemonade: China will never be frontier
spicy.lemonade: Sadly
spicy.lemonade: Can’t count on them for that
spicy.lemonade: Only for cheap catchup
alejandrozarzuelo: Wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: There is nothing cheap about this btw
alejandrozarzuelo: It's pretty expensive
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himekokatagiri: but second year onwards with gpt? goddamn
fuhulootogan: wow technology improves
fuhulootogan: crazyyyyyyyy
himekokatagiri: well yeah but people didn't believe
fuhulootogan: well the people must be dumb
fuhulootogan: if you set your expectations low enough you'll be surprised by the seemingly obvious things
fuhulootogan: you feed a machine hundreds of millions of data what do you get
himekokatagiri: back in my kid days? nothing
himekokatagiri: I remember cleverbot
himekokatagiri: hell even the voice thing my dream at least was a better vocaloid
fuhulootogan: i mean this stuff has been out for a long time
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: I don't dig the voice
himekokatagiri: and the inflection is weird
himekokatagiri: but damn this throws vocaloid in the trash
alejandrozarzuelo: i think 2030 is a good date for an AI that can perform almost all economic activity
himekokatagiri: and yeah it's me singing I can't sing
hikukomoru: That u?
futurist_wizard: when did you become such an optimist
himekokatagiri: yeah I suck at it
fuhulootogan: no
fuhulootogan: it can't be you
himekokatagiri: though the voice changer fucked some shit up
fuhulootogan: the mic sounds too clear
himekokatagiri: no it's a voice changer
hikukomoru: U sound like a baddie 🫦
ailoveyoom: It literally says 11Labs 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: i have always defended the date of 2030
hikukomoru: Let me live my fantasy bruh
ailoveyoom: Why hasn't 11L made a voice changer
alejandrozarzuelo: also isnt 2030 supposed to be very conservative in these circles?
ailoveyoom: I want to sound like a baddie 😔
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: This is the original one I recorded
fuhulootogan: How? you've said yourself today that you can't accurately predict the future of technological progress yet you try to defend a date that is seemingly arbitrary?
hikukomoru: Dw babe, you're already a real baddie to me
futurist_wizard: in these circles
alejandrozarzuelo: these two ideas are not contradictory
you can have a median with a veeeeeeery wide probability density
fuhulootogan: Either way i don't see how you can "defend" any date
hikukomoru: You sound gay asf
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spicy.lemonade: they came out at around the same time. maybe 3
spicy.lemonade: thats not my point
jardineirsbro:
spicy.lemonade: my point is humans copy too
oooooooooog: also its the left person again
oooooooooog: not the right
spicy.lemonade: if humans didnt copy
spicy.lemonade: it wouldnt even look similar
spicy.lemonade: not even slightly
oooooooooog: well yeah
anathemaofmankind: You should post this on r/singularity
spicy.lemonade: nope
oooooooooog: how do you think TV shows with animators maintain a constant appearance lol
spicy.lemonade: it was the right
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: the guy on right drew that
oooooooooog: the signature is the same as the left person's
oooooooooog: thats how i got the other image too lol
spicy.lemonade: its a colab. colored by left drawn by right
spicy.lemonade: lol
.histic: they say, "it's slop".
but my rebuttal is imagine losing to slop.
imagine slop being far better than what you can create in ur lifetime.
spicy.lemonade: jim lee and jason fabok
spicy.lemonade: lmao
oooooooooog: anyway, the reason they look similar is because they are supposed to look similar. copying isnt inherently bad, but these people arent claiming to be eachother
oooooooooog: copying is bad when it is fraud
spicy.lemonade: ik
spicy.lemonade: im just saying
spicy.lemonade: humans work the same way ai do
spicy.lemonade: if AI is slop and copy
spicy.lemonade: then human is too
spicy.lemonade: flew too close to the sun
st.sioux: jesus christ xai website is so bad, i cant even create an account
.histic: hey you found my pic 🫡
.histic: bug?
st.sioux: idk, i click create then it just sends me to login then i try to login and it doesnt do anything, not even an error message, then i sign up again and it does the same thing
connorsphone.: 😬
anathemaofmankind: <@430269783112548362>
.histic: i once had an error message signing up to xitter.
and it gave me a weird error code, and i realized why it did that...
.histic: i forgot exactly, but i think it was connected to my name or my email address
.histic: like a unique character that fucked the system up
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metaldragon01: gotta be a troll.
zoermena: https://videos.openai.com/vg-assets/assets%2Ftask_01jq84yp2nfz1vdks6103dvm8z%2Fimg_1.webp?st=2025-03-26T01%3A11%3A22Z&se=2025-04-01T02%3A11%3A22Z&sks=b&skt=2025-03-26T01%3A11%3A22Z&ske=2025-04-01T02%3A11%3A22Z&sktid=a48cca56-e6da-484e-a814-9c849652bcb3&skoid=aa5ddad1-c91a-4f0a-9aca-e20682cc8969&skv=2019-02-02&sv=2018-11-09&sr=b&sp=r&spr=https%2Chttp&sig=T4KOLnWv%2BTZay%2B%2B1Hkr1QgFFgGf8QnU0e%2BjHeP%2FwTHI%3D&az=oaivgprodscus
anathemaofmankind: Broke ass
st.sioux: it wont bro
st.sioux: i think
st.sioux: idk i might be spreading misinformation but i dont think so
zoermena: This image gen is absolutely bonkers I swear
st.sioux: nvm it is misinformation, it will
brain4brain: What the actual fuck happened today, Gemin-2.5, Brampton, 4o-image?!?
anathemaofmankind: I honestly want them to just keep it for plus
anathemaofmankind: Normies don't deserve this
st.sioux: bro brampton has to be fake
thedon7075: Google back on top
st.sioux: its just a shitpost
brain4brain: I don’t fucking know right
thedon7075: OpenAI used to be 6 months ahead, now they are slowly losing their advantage
anathemaofmankind: What?
brain4brain: They are still 6 months ahead
brain4brain: They just don’t ship
zoermena: Half a trillion data center being built for them in the next 4 years
brain4brain: OpenAI slander will NOT be tolerated
anathemaofmankind: 4o image gen is way better than Gemini right now
st.sioux: their image gen is ahead and they shipped
anathemaofmankind: Not even close
thedon7075: Lets see if GPT 5 delivers
brain4brain: Yes, exactly, OpenAI is always better, they just don’t ship
zoermena: For your profile picture did you do the finger?
anathemaofmankind: I used Gemini for my current pfp
anathemaofmankind: I'm planning to change it
brain4brain: I still can’t wrap my mind around the three releases of today
.histic:
zoermena: Three?
anathemaofmankind: 4o image gen alone is blowing my mind
anathemaofmankind: I still can't believe this is a thing even while I'm using it
ldj: Deepseek update, gemini 2.5 pro, and native image gen for 4o
st.sioux: hey do you know about that brampton stuff?
st.sioux: its a joke right?
metaldragon01: crazy 24 hours
anathemaofmankind: I'm feeing the AGI so hard
metaldragon01: the new gemini is so good
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supersteve8000: ong 🍉
supersteve8000: ⚔︎ = code
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/touhou-reimu-hakurei-reimu-reimu-watermelon-gif-25292031
supersteve8000: fr fr lemme go into the void and do this brb
inferno0879: there would be nothing left
oooooooooog: doesn't most of that happen in off topic though
oooooooooog: only a cumulative 2k mentions of "autism, retard, gay" in gen 1
oooooooooog: actually... off topic has way less
oooooooooog: nvm
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the admins and mods don't care, they will talk about everything in here
st.sioux: maybe you just need more test bro
st.sioux: start lifting more
st.sioux: you think fractal needs more test
st.sioux: ??
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the server staff here doesn't actually care about the Singularity
st.sioux: low test
st.sioux: dude was super racist
st.sioux: like unapologetically
brain4brain: https://copilot.microsoft.com/wham?features=labs-wham-enabled
wellmeaningalien: midcrosoft copooplot
wellmeaningalien: its fine
st.sioux: this screams low test to me bro
st.sioux: 🤢 🤮
inferno0879: lol
brain4brain: https://x.com/hesamation/status/1908631442902376448?s=61
brain4brain: AI generated videogame, only good feature of it
st.sioux:
st.sioux: i got like 3 fps
wellmeaningalien: what is that lol
wellmeaningalien: is that lik a fully ai generated game a la google doom
brain4brain: It’s running on your own browser
brain4brain: Does it have spatial memory I can’t test it
wellmeaningalien: i think u can use ur spatial intelligence to tell
st.sioux: yea i think so
brain4brain: Anyone wanna play Minecraft?
brain4brain: It seems to remember the field in the middle but I’m not sure if it’s real or some clever trick that only work for this map
st.sioux: i would test it more but its super hard to control, arrow key movement and low fps
wellmeaningalien: i think we know with google doom that there's no special trick beyond just pure memorization
brain4brain: This is like the computer ping pong
brain4brain: Super scuff
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sweetievee__33649: I like grok and chatgpt personally
sweetievee__33649: grok just tells it to you straight
ailoveyoom: Ye but I was talking about his rizz
ailoveyoom: His sauce
benata: I paid for all of the models
ailoveyoom: His jizz
benata: I can easily say the best were GPT-4o and Gemini 2.5 pro
benata: Not saying Grok is bad but 2.5 Pro is another level
sweetievee__33649: i feel like claude gives off more pretty princess vibes than any other model
st.sioux: grok is bad
ailoveyoom: Either gender works, bro tries to play nice but is actually FREAKY af
benata: I disagree sioux
sweetievee__33649: claude is freaky asf if you want it to be
futurist_wizard:
sweetievee__33649: or so ive heard
zoermena: I haven’t used 2.5 at all not gonna lie
ailoveyoom: Imo Grok and 4o both have that flavor of being too much of a tryhard
sweetievee__33649: poor cat
ailoveyoom: BRoooooooooooooo you're missing out
ailoveyoom: Use it now
sweetievee__33649: looking cuffuffled
futurist_wizard: The cat likes it
ailoveyoom: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>
st.sioux: 4o is fine grok just makes me cringe
st.sioux: honestly
sweetievee__33649: do you like being hit on the head with a hammer
st.sioux: i guess its cool if youre into that sort of stuff
ailoveyoom: Yeah I'm saying I feel the same with 4o specifically IN normal convo
ailoveyoom: Idk, it's just too nice?? In that weird saccharine way
sweetievee__33649: cringy ai models 🫦
futurist_wizard: It would move otherwise, its ears are also up
benata: Are you guys cat experts or sth?
futurist_wizard: I have one
sweetievee__33649: maybe they cast a hex on it
drewsni:
sweetievee__33649: that sure does depend
sweetievee__33649: what is this "very complicated problem"
zoermena: Is it available?
drewsni: openrouter
sweetievee__33649: how many rs are in strawberry or program me the entire observerable universe to a 1:1 scale using less than a gb of ram
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zonchao: (I DID NOT WORK ON LLAMA 4)
rayanquitplayin: You worked on Llama 4?
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't disagree, I do think we will have some off billion androids in the 2040s
I disagree with the curve to get there
literallyvarane: 8:30+ is really weird? He just blatantly says they tuned for the leaderboard, but doesn’t really explain *why.*
It’s a “yeah everyone knows it can be gamed. We gamed it.”
zonchao: no, was joking about a researcher saying he did not work on llama 4 on his linkedin cus the model sucks so bad, if you worked on it you have less aura points<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: 2T was already confirmed by Meta weeks ago btw
rayanquitplayin: I see, 😂
zonchao: zucc been fumbling his rebrand recently
literallyvarane: It’s a really interesting interview though. For me it’s quite clear he’s not really even *aiming* for AGI, he’s aiming for a good product to exist within Meta’s existing apps.
literallyvarane: Not terribly shocking, but for me at least confirms META isn’t the same tier of lab as the big 3 US.
ailoveyoom: A king fumbles from time to time (Google) but look at them now 😍
ailoveyoom: Hope he makes a comeback 🙏
zonchao: 4*
return_to_monke1_33974: opinion (true facts): all companies should give all the compute to OpenAI and Google
zonchao: dont want another 4.5
return_to_monke1_33974: dont want another gronk 3
zonchao: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
ldj: Well he also quite literally said AI programmers will be taking over most of METAs coding work within 18 months
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
return_to_monke1_33974:
zonchao: he said mid 2025 last year <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: We’re almost there
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: But tbh, the usefulness in vibe coding over the past 12 months has actually been an insane progression
zonchao: gronk 3.5 better have big brain mode or im throwing hands
sarik0497: Humans have been doing that since the dawn of our race's birth.
Why does the sun rise every morning? Must be a God.
Why did the crops fail? We must have displeased the Gods.
Only later did we start to look really into the reasoning for these events. To deny us the ability to entertain different hypothetical scenarios would be to take away our humanity.
And besides, are we not doing this exactly right now with AI? Imaging how they might react to humanity once they grow powerful enough?
ailoveyoom: I mean tbf, unlike OAI and Anthropic, Meta doesn't really need 'money' the way those two need it.
I mean like, their AI isn't their main source of revenue, their already existing products are. So to them, it makes sense to think of AI as something to integrate into their products then the products themselves. If that makes sense.
literallyvarane: Still 3 for me
literallyvarane: Fair, but I do feel like that’s not the *primary* goal.
return_to_monke1_33974: also Google doesnt necesarry need investments and hype (like some AGI Before 2030 deniers say)
Google has insane amounts of revenue
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1917225162707005780
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
return_to_monke1_33974: image taking 2 years olds and training them with data trough NeuraLink like we do with GPT's
ailoveyoom: Yeah, Google is similar to Meta in that way
ailoveyoom: But Google also has Deepmind, so 😈
zonchao: demis collab with xAI games(confirmed (by me))
himekokatagiri: Let them grow up
himekokatagiri: too early
ldj: Lol no mention of Anthropic
himekokatagiri: I think childhood should be experienced
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oooooooooog: no
ailoveyoom: I meant like your handie sucks 😔
oooooooooog: they are still considered men
futurist_wizard: Did he reject your advances?
hikukomoru: No
sarik0497: Lol. Didn’t we already figure out that we’re around the same age?
hey1_1hey: You try and give handies to all tanks screaming MEDIC at you. Its hard work yanno
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: Wait MichMach is 30?
hey1_1hey: NO SHOT
ailoveyoom: Nah bro I'm 20 😭
hikukomoru: I thought MichMach was like 16 or smth
hey1_1hey: Oh thank god
hey1_1hey: I imagine you to be like 15-16
hikukomoru: Wait weren't you 12
ailoveyoom: 💀
hikukomoru: Or am I tripping
hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about my age then
futurist_wizard: You all act 13
hey1_1hey: Almost got band
.wolfnacht: 🤝 i just entered in 20s on 16th march, i hate it now.
hikukomoru: I can't believe you're the same age as me
How is that possible
You give me teenage boy vibes
sarik0497: Wauw.
…I still hope I make it <:sadge:892224282363588679>
.wolfnacht: i wanna go back being 17
ailoveyoom: It's my inner child 🥺
hikukomoru: That's a compliment
Being young is awesome
hey1_1hey: Could've worderd that better 😭
hey1_1hey: Agreed, I wish I was 13. I could get away with so much shit
hikukomoru: My brain never aged past 12
hey1_1hey: Nutrient deficiency
sarik0497: Am I really at that age now where everything is “old” 💀
oooooooooog: fluoride poisoning
hikukomoru: Yeah you're 30 right
30+ is ancient
ailoveyoom: Bro is 28 smh
oooooooooog: ur getting up in the years grandpa
hey1_1hey: Poor darkstar man
hikukomoru: Gramps not gonna make it to LEV 🙏
hey1_1hey: He must feel like a right acindent mf
.wolfnacht: a person's who's 30 rn would be around 50-60s when AGi would arrive
sarik0497: Oh, sweetheart. If only you knew. It’ll come for you too.
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wellmeaningalien: why is gemini 2.0 flash above gemini 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro better cost $0.00001
theaiguy69420_89814: Maybe a system where the innovator finds the symbolic meaning in the questions and then has a back and forth with the reasoning models
theaiguy69420_89814: For an answer
_cloudost: Can't wait
aero447: I was right.
aero447: T'was shit.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: acceleration
spicy.lemonade: looks like benchmarks will just go straight up
ldj: The age of standalone reasoners was short-lived and temporary, the age of unified dynamic thinkers is here 🙏
ldj: tbh Claude-3.7 is only like a half way unified model, since it's one model but still 2 different modes of using the model that the user has to manually select between
ailoveyoom: Does 2.5 Pro Exp count as a fully unified thinker then?
ldj: ye
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: it's arguably the first one
zonchao: did oai censor Ghibli?
hey1_1hey: Not to my knowledge no
hey1_1hey: I think 4o got a little confused though. I just saw it reason for a split second <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
metaldragon01: No skill issue
metaldragon01:
zonchao: oo
alejandrozarzuelo: AGI is not close apparently
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
spicy.lemonade: this isnt o3 level
spicy.lemonade: deepmind couldve pushed it max
spicy.lemonade: like o3
spicy.lemonade: and got 90+ score
spicy.lemonade: but they gave us something we can used
alejandrozarzuelo: why is progress so slow
alejandrozarzuelo: ahhhhhhhh
spicy.lemonade: We’ve gotten 2 sota models per month
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: 2-3
alejandrozarzuelo: dots?
spicy.lemonade: Sota
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but still arc2 is on single digits
spicy.lemonade: Arc 2 just came out
spicy.lemonade: Why would they make a benchmark that’d get saturated day 1
spicy.lemonade: Likeley arc2 will be saturated in no time
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ailoveyoom: Don't disturb a man mid goon
ailoveyoom: Bro code
hey1_1hey: Did they get the death penalty
spicy.lemonade: i could prob generate a 50 page batman comic now
hikukomoru: Yeah I'm sorry I gave Lovecraft a blackface 😔
wellmeaningalien: u already doxxed urself, hp lovecraft
trent_k: until today it was basically just goontech + a logo generator
maintcrew: last year laptop cpu but i'll be fine if i need it a lot i'll just spin up a cluster or some shit in my room
do u have any stability problems
hey1_1hey: I wonder how good its logos are now
hikukomoru: Still is just goontech
hikukomoru: That's why it's great
ailoveyoom: Now it's goontech + logo generator 2.0 (+ some other things)
fractalcomputer: I suppose that I am to take this as good news?
hey1_1hey: Someone who has access to it can you generate logos please 🙏
maintcrew: example: most youtube videos are now absolute slop with absolute slop thumbnail made by dall e
wellmeaningalien: nope sometimes i get stability issues when i dont update my packages in awhile and then update them but if u update semi regularly and have ur system configurated properly u should be fine to go
trent_k: i have a request for someone with 4o paypig tier
maintcrew: ok last question is the community cool + do yall have a lot of packages or do i need to learn how to package gentoo packages myself
trent_k: some chinese girl posted these in the r/chatgpt discord like a year or so ago. if someone could translate them to english but keep the handwriting that would be cool
maintcrew: the definition or whatever im aware i compile it anyway
wellmeaningalien: dude theres a daycare center in my city with an ai logo and a tech shop with an ai illustration on it. plus my mall uses ai pictures too
wellmeaningalien: sooo clearly dall-e
wellmeaningalien: what is this??
hikukomoru: Wtf is this
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Ew
spicy.lemonade: atleast theyl look better
st.sioux: her victims
hey1_1hey: These litterly look like schzioposts
trent_k: bizarre drawings by a chinese child
hey1_1hey: What a cutie patootie
maintcrew: is she ... an actual schizo ...
hikukomoru: Chinese schizo girl
trent_k: i put it in google translate once and it has their blood types listed lmao
maintcrew: need me that chinese spy schizo pussy
wellmeaningalien: well be careful if u arent sufficiently versed in linux theyre gonna give u shit lol but theyre generally pretty ok
hey1_1hey: Prob not a good start
wellmeaningalien: and yeah there are a lot of packages + an AUR like package overlay system (not as supported tho)
maintcrew: nah in asian culture blood types are like zodiacs
hey1_1hey: WHAT
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spicy.lemonade: fuck labs
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: im a swe for berkeley
spicy.lemonade: (as job)
joaoluz19: guys thinking about working on a paper with mathematical foundations of waifus
futurist_wizard: Like Caster Semenya, a person with a vagina and undescended testicles, they also have a very deep voice, i like using her as an example when people just call gender 'strict biological realities'
joaoluz19: If anyone knows of similar work
trojan09205: Have you considered just doing your homework and turning them into git repos and use that as a portfolio resume
anathemaofmankind: Gender isn't a strictly biological reality but sex is for most people
spicy.lemonade: useless in age of AI
spicy.lemonade: o3 could do my hw and what not
trojan09205: I disagree. Im a senior SWE
trojan09205: Having a git showcase is great for jobs
spicy.lemonade: quality over quantity imo
spicy.lemonade: im just trying to internship max
trojan09205: Especially if you beef it up and include Ci/cd and infrastructure as code
okbut: feelsgoodman.jpg
trojan09205: Are you in a masters program
spicy.lemonade: they gave me opportunity to integrate AI/llms into berkeley systems so illuse that as great resume pad
spicy.lemonade: freshman
anathemaofmankind: Why even talk about jobs when AGI will arrive in a few years.
It's so over
trojan09205: O i c
fractalcomputer: I think certain Discord servers would become much nicer environs if users were forced to provide proof of speaking and writing English to a respectable degree.
trojan09205: I very often try to share internship and mentor opportunities from my company but usually its for masters or phd students
spicy.lemonade: III will still have a job. i go to a top1-2 cs uni
spicy.lemonade: idk about normies
ailoveyoom: Tbf that's what they all say tho
okbut: I hope to see more out of their robotics program regarding AI and data
trojan09205: Jobs are all about doing things in reality and basically also being business savvy
okbut: Robots is so short on data for AI it's scary
anathemaofmankind: AI would just self teach in a simulation
trojan09205: Im a more AI augmentation person vs let AI just do its own thing
okbut: Wrappercelled
spicy.lemonade: nah normies just make up reasons
fractalcomputer: Right. Definitely nothing like that going on here.
trojan09205: <@471334973379706900> are you into machine learning and data science
spicy.lemonade: I got in for the most competative major(eecs which is seperate from straight cs) at top 1-2 cs uni.
spicy.lemonade: ill be fine
spicy.lemonade: and I already have a job before freshman year is over
joaoluz19: It's over
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st.sioux: i mean nothing as in its super cheap in terms of cost/benefit
_3sphere: That's singularity shit 😭
literallyvarane: That’s how I’m viewing level 4 tbh.
3ds0662: would it be hilarious if discords started group funding to use the 20k plan
hey1_1hey: Which one of you mfs posted this image the other day?
a1c4p0ne: Plebs won't be able to use it
hey1_1hey: I was just looking at the artist who made the song I am listening to and this is one of the images in his slide
_3sphere: Maybe the more serious discords like EAI might
literallyvarane: If anything level 4 and 5 are more A and B than nature progressions.
st.sioux: what is level 5?
st.sioux: god?
_3sphere: otherwise good luck finding 20 singularitycord degens who can actually contribute 1k to this
.histic: <@505313122802728972>
literallyvarane: Organizational if I recall
st.sioux: im convinced most people here are unemployed
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
3ds0662: maybe a year of crowd funding would allow 20k plan use for a discord instead of spending on nitro and boosting the server
hey1_1hey: Anyone but Komoru I beg
literallyvarane:
3ds0662: 😭
literallyvarane: Which… is it harder for AI to replace a multiple companies, or invent new science? 🧫
3ds0662: I guess the singularity will just eat the poor lol
3ds0662: I thought it was going to create new millionaires
3ds0662: tf is this 20k plan shit lol
literallyvarane: I think those are just two different questions, not two consecutive ones
.histic: new science
if it's truly groundbreaking or innovative new science
st.sioux: could there be any possibility that they add the level 4 AI to the API? like pay $500 instead of $20000 for like 8 hours or some shit
.histic: like what if those companies work complexity is quite shallow? unless it's automating a company that is a research lab, then yeah.
3ds0662: I hope so, sama has to serve it else he's just doing monetary favoritism
.histic: oh yeah, physical jobs would be hard too lol
need robotics for that.
st.sioux: companies that don't require physical interaction with the world will be relatively easy
st.sioux: yea
literallyvarane: This is kinda my point tbh.
I don’t think it’s *impossible* that current models, with enough scaffolding, could replace a lot of misc companies wholesale.
Honestly I think 4 and 5 are extensions of two different questions.
a1c4p0ne: you did it wrong
st.sioux: think 1 guy doing 10 things vs 10 guys doing 1 thing
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gokussj3-ssj3-gokuss3-dbz-gif-6423143817581122789
literallyvarane: 4 is the natural progression of creativity and intelligence.
5 is the natural progression of reliability, hallucination reduction and robustness.
wellmeaningalien: hello im here to see mr agi
wellmeaningalien: i think openai made up a bunch of vague shit
literallyvarane: How are you suppose to do it? Because I 10000% did that before and it worked.
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czdct: we got better AI image generations
czdct: but at what cost?
hey1_1hey: The more you look into the worse it gets
czdct: it's the filth that just keeps rotting away
czdct: I don't even want to know what the prompt was tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, the male smurfs are all just the reproductive organs of smurphette, they live in a hive
hey1_1hey: Oh ok its a naked smurf
Oh ok its looking out at d-day
hey1_1hey: I do
hey1_1hey: I am curios
czdct: thank you for ruining my childhood at 3AM in the morning
hey1_1hey: Also he hits calfs and glutes 6x a week which is crazy
alejandrozarzuelo: ruining your childhood? dude thats how thousands of insect species work
alejandrozarzuelo: its not disturbing or anything
alejandrozarzuelo: its just a fact of the smurf species
czdct: yeah he has an amazing physique
hey1_1hey: If only he wasn't a smurf
hey1_1hey: How do you know about this though is my question...
hey1_1hey: Its not just common knowledge that everyone is born with
memlaswaif: <@312370916820779040> should we listen to this guy
czdct: yea he's basically built like a silver back gorilla...
hey1_1hey: Omg your right
hey1_1hey: Thats some crazy pattern recognition
hey1_1hey: Putting LLMs to shame
czdct: it's not something I should be proud of
ailoveyoom: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1356003548751728760
czdct: I know...
metaldragon01: Qwen 3 is coming pretty soon
metaldragon01: Likely in next 2 weeks. Maybe this week.
czdct: https://x.com/MikeTyson/status/1905029341752467881
czdct: mike tyson is wildin
czdct: ai image generators might go mainstream...
alejandrozarzuelo: the smurfs are a colony species with a female reproductive hierarchy
since there is a massive gender imbalance in the species can only suggest that smurfette can produce males without fertilization, and they serve as workers
we see that since smurfette doesnt have a "trade" she specializes on, she is just the female, while each of the males has its own task inside the colony, builder, farmer, intellectual...
whenever the smurf colony needs a new female, smurfette gets impregnated by one or more of the male smurfs to build a semen reserve from which female smurfs will hatch
Usually the males die afterwards but in the smurf species we see very longeve individuals so it is likely that this is not the case in this species
this is how all colony species work
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah yanno... Common information
hey1_1hey: We all know that obv
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, thats basic non-vertebrate biology 101
alejandrozarzuelo: its pretty obvious a colony species
hey1_1hey: I for one didn't know that. Not sure if anyone else was thinking about that but hey ho
alejandrozarzuelo: just because they are intelligent doesnt change their basic reproductive structure
hey1_1hey: Thats not my issue. My issue is that why were you thinking about it in that way 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, everyone thought of that the moment they thought for a second about the smurfd
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st.sioux: gotta get that phd
spicy.lemonade: It’s insaneeeeeeee
alejandrozarzuelo: so i am wayyyyyy behind the news
alejandrozarzuelo: excuse me
.histic: 4o made the average redditor
spicy.lemonade: I think image gen is a solved problem
spicy.lemonade: Officially
alejandrozarzuelo: the phd position, and yeah finally my supervisor is answering me back ahain
alejandrozarzuelo: yayyyy
alejandrozarzuelo: also thats why i am super busy
alejandrozarzuelo: srry bros
777agical: https://x.com/aravsrinivas/status/1905001410858799522
st.sioux: no
st.sioux: i mean its pretty close
spicy.lemonade: There’s minor errors but they plan to integrate reasoning
alejandrozarzuelo: not completely solved they still arent quite perfect
BUT DAMNNNNN
alejandrozarzuelo: LIKE
alejandrozarzuelo: OMG
spicy.lemonade: I
Mean architecturaly
alejandrozarzuelo: its sooooooo good
alejandrozarzuelo: i cant really believe it is that good
spicy.lemonade: Fr
st.sioux: yea i wasnt expecting it to be this good
alejandrozarzuelo: why would anyone pay for graphic designers again?
technocake.: visual reasoning will be big
spicy.lemonade: Visual reasoning will be the key to sora 2
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
alejandrozarzuelo: (btw graphic design is my passion so i am not threatened by this as i never made any money from it it was just for hobby)
st.sioux: hire 1 graphic designer to do the work of 10
alejandrozarzuelo: the opposite actually
ailoveyoom: Never seen u this hyped
ailoveyoom: Cute 🥺
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Gary Marcus
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean yeah currently it isnt just perfect so you still probably need someone
spicy.lemonade: 1 month later
spicy.lemonade: After he posted
.histic: just imagine how good it will be within 2 years.
spicy.lemonade: It was solved
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joaoluz19: "Purely academic" was a exageration by my part but here it is
darkstar0818: Didn't know HOI4 was made by them. How is it?
darkstar0818: or which of those is best
hikukomoru: It’s… lacking
And a bit too simple
hikukomoru: My fave is Ck2
There’s Ck3 too but it still lacks too many features from ck2
darkstar0818: Remind me to keep the ASI away from you. I sense a little napoleon in you.
darkstar0818: What are we debating again?
joaoluz19: Wtf?
darkstar0818: does this graph mean you are arguing that we have achieved AGI?
joaoluz19: <@241872381906386944>
joaoluz19: No, it means we have exponential growth in AI research and market impact compared to pre-2022.
darkstar0818: Wait so AI was invented in 2012?
darkstar0818: where is the development of artifical neural networks on that graph. Or compute cluster developments.
darkstar0818: or the countless other algorthims and techniques which were being develoepd which all of this depends on.
joaoluz19: Just because all things are obviously built on previous ideas doesn't mean that previous progress was superior.
darkstar0818: What about the fact that a human from 2000 years ago score shit on that same benchmark 🙂
darkstar0818: well your average human anyway
darkstar0818: That goes both ways.
darkstar0818: You are the one making the claim that todays progress is special relative to the past.
joaoluz19: And what's the problem with that?
darkstar0818: Which means you have the honor of proving your case.
okbut: I feel like AI is undergoing polarization in its definition due to the ambiguity in "Neural net"
darkstar0818: I feel like people just vibe and self hype up and say some shit and then defend it like its their child.
okbut: El Ajedrecista, 1912, was AI born then?
abundantliving_: https://x.com/gregmushen/status/1911256730518098428
darkstar0818: I will go with ray kurzweil's definition of progress when it comes to AI.
joaoluz19: And I showed evidence. What was the criticism? That DMs are based on neural networks so previous progress was more/equal in impact to the current one?
darkstar0818: Its a continous curve. Any 'special' event someone claims to see is just because they are choosing to ignore data.
joaoluz19: Or that I didn't show pre-2012 growth
joaoluz19: ?
spicy.lemonade: benchmark predictions for o4 mini?
darkstar0818:
metaldragon01: Slightly lower than og o3 benchmarks @pass 1
okbut: Cloud? Or energy?
dean_martin: Talking to your buddies in 2030 after AGI like “remember when we lost our shit over the dog putting his paws on the little keyboard”
spicy.lemonade: isnt that just gemini 2.5
spicy.lemonade: i dont think so
joaoluz19: What do you mean there is no special event? For you, did the 2022-2025 interval have the same impact seen throughout the 21st century as the interval, say, 2018-2022?
darkstar0818: Have you ever read the books that this channel is named after?
joaoluz19: Lol
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spicy.lemonade: fr
wellmeaningalien: the real benchmark is with fiction bench
wellmeaningalien: and it fails haaaaaaaard
spicy.lemonade: meta had worse drop than 4.5
wellmeaningalien: cant wait for livebench lol
wellmeaningalien: ngl if livebench numbers are good then maybe i'll forgive but it's not looking good cause a lot of people are saying firsthand the models are pretty shit
wellmeaningalien: apparently its a tarded model
wellmeaningalien: also btw the context length of llama 4 is wors than llama 3.3
spicy.lemonade: I think if it fails at fictionbench then itl do bad at datanalysis portion of livebench
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade: and their model is quite large
wellmeaningalien: yeah the fact it fails that test means it's retarded if you try to talk it over stuff that's too complex and just retarded in general
spicy.lemonade: 2 trillion
wellmeaningalien: like a good dozen times
spicy.lemonade: not good
wellmeaningalien: 😂
wellmeaningalien: ok 2 trillion is not out
wellmeaningalien: their biggest model's like 400 or something lemme check
spicy.lemonade: oh yeah thats bahemoth
wellmeaningalien: 400b total parameters
wellmeaningalien: still no good
wellmeaningalien: being beaten out by 90b
wellmeaningalien: ok k well nvm it seems like theyre pretty on par but still its pretty shit lol
wellmeaningalien: and btw thats deepseek v3
wellmeaningalien: 🥱
futurist_wizard: What if LLM's really are trash
wellmeaningalien: thats an interesting thought to ponder futurist hill
wellmeaningalien: you could go ahead and put that idea in the trash too maybe
wellmeaningalien: btw 109b gets beaten by 70b
wellmeaningalien: 🥱 🥱 🥱 🥱
wellmeaningalien: meanwhil 70b gives 400b a run for its money...
wellmeaningalien: 🥱🥱🥱🥱
wellmeaningalien: meta should just let deepseek buy them out
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/reeyarn-ballin-cell-gif-21096101
futurist_wizard: Just saying, consumers have barely had an upgrade since gpt4o
wellmeaningalien: oh the poor consumers who will think of the consumers
wellmeaningalien: llm power scaling really has gone so far people have forgotten how shit llms were and just how goated they have become
wellmeaningalien: frog being boiled
wellmeaningalien: aint have big ass jumps like gpt 3.5 to gpt 4 anymore
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