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You are making the same mistake I did: you are confusing the DRIVE interface to the DATA THROUGHPUT interface. Again from my Mac & IBM info sheet {available by FTP on sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6) in the info-mac/report as mac-ibm-compare173.txt}: Expansion Both Mac & IBM SCSI: only external device expansion interface common to both Mac and IBM. Allows the use of any device: hard drive, printer, scanner, Nubus card expansion {Mac Plus only}, some monitors, and CD-ROM. Apple developed some specifications for SCSI controlers while IBM has no exact controller specifications {which results in added incompatibilities on IBM machines}. Main problem: there are a lot of external devices which are internal terminated which causes problems for more then two devises off the SCSI port {A SCSI chain is supposed to be terminated ONLY at the begining and at the end. Any other set up causes problems for either Mac or IBM}. SCSI-1: 7 devices per SCSI controller. 8-bit asynchronous {~1.5MB/s ave} and synchronous {5MB/s max} transfer base. 16-bit SCSI-1 requires a SCSI-2 controler chip and can provide only fast SCSI-2 not wide SCSI-2 which are both 16-bit interfaces {see SCSI-2}. SCSI-2: 10 devices per SCSI controller in SCSI-2 mode. SCSI-2 is fully SCSI-1 complient and tends to be implimented as a very fast SCSI-1 since it needs a different controller interface in both hardware {which tends to be very expendsive} and software. Transfer speeds are 4-6MB/s with 10MB/s burst {8-bit}, 8-12MB/s with 20MB/s burst {16-bit}, and 15-20MB/s with 40MB/s burst {32-bit/wide and fast}. SCSI-2 in SCSI-1 mode is limited to 7 devices and reduced 8-bit or 16-bit {fast only} throughput due to the difference between SCSI-1 and wide SCSI-2 ports. IBM HD Interfaces {limited to hard drives by design or lack of development}: [...] IDE: Integrated Device Electronics currently the most common standard, and is mainly used for medium sized drives. Can have more than one hard drive. Asynchronous Transfer: ~5MB/s max. So at its LOWEST setting SCSI-2 interface in Asynchronous SCSI-1 mode AVERAGES the through put MAXIMUM of IDE in asynchronous mode. In full SCSI-2 mode it blows poor IDE out the window, down the street, and into the garbage can. The problem becomes can the drive mechanisim keep up with those through put rates and THAT is where the bottleneck and cost of SCSI-2 comes from. NOT the interface itself but more and more from drive mechanisims to use the SCSI-2 through put. The cost of SCSI interface is a self fulliling prophisy: few people buy SCSI because it is so expencive for the PC, which in turn convices makes that mass producing SCSI {which would reduce its cost} is unwarented, and so SCSI is expencive. {That is the effect of the Rule of Scale: the more items sold the less EACH item has to bare the brunt the cost of manufacture and so the less each item has to cost}

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[email protected] (Peter White) relates a story about a person who gives a message in tongues which consists entirely of the words pu' ka. He was asked to refrain from doing that. Nice story but it sets off my urban legend (or is it charismatic legend?) alarms. Can the linguists on the net identify the language from the description? Or can they even attest that such a language exists. It seems to be odd enough (at least by the standards of European languages) that if it exists, it should be reasonably well known to linguists as an extreme case of something or other. Or have I just overreacted to your basic shaggy dog story? Will ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Wow, you're quicker to point out heresy than the Church in the Middle ages. Seriously though, even the Sheiks at Al-Azhar don't claim that the Shi'ites are heretics. Most of the accusations and fabrications about Shi'ites come out of Saudi Arabia from the Wahabis. For that matter you should read the original works of the Sunni Imams (Imams of the four madhabs). The teacher of at least two of them was Imam Jafar Sadiq (the sixth Imam of the Shi'ites).

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Is this a joke? The legal way to serve a search warrant is to knock on the door. Tossing in a grenade to serve a search warrant violates the US Constitution and is hence, illegal. The BD complied with legal search warrants in the past. I do not understand why the BATF used an illegal means to serve their search warrant last February.

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You assume this because you believe in a designing creator, and you observe our ability to procreate... .... But then you observe our ability to modify fertility through intelligence & experiment, and draw no similar conclusions about God designing us for scientific inquiry & the use of the technology that it produces. How is it that one ability is "obviously from God", and the other not? I want to know the truth, and hold the Truth as the most basic of all ethical values, because correct moral judgement relies on knowing the truth, not vice versa. Moralities that assert that assent to a belief is a moral choice, and not compelled by evidence inevitably cut off the limb they sit upon. Falsification of evidence, conscious and unconscious, follows corrupting both the intellect and the heart. If there is a God, he has nothing to fear from truth. As to imaginary gods and there followers: Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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: >The Selective Service Registration should be abolished. To start with, the : >draft is immoral. Whether you agree with that or not, we don't have one now, : >and military experts agree that the quality of the armed forces is superior : >with a volunteer army than with draftees. Finally, the government has us : >on many lists in many computers (the IRS, Social Security Admistration and : >Motor Vehicle Registries to name a few) and it can find us if it needs to. : >Maintaining yet another list of people is an utter waste of money and time. : >Let's axe this whole department, and reduce the deficit a little bit. : > : > : > - Dave Borden : > [email protected] : : : You selfish little bastard. Afraid you might have to sacrafice somthing : for your country. What someone not approve a lone for you ? To bad. : What is immoral is: people like you and the current president who don't : have any idea why this country still exists after 200+ years. This country still exists after 200+ years because the people have to be forced by the government to fight in foreign wars? I don't think so...

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Sorry, not so -- the changes in sunrise and sunset times are not quite synchronized. For example, neither the earliest sunrise nor the latest sunset comes on the longest day of the year.

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A question in general about displaying NTSC through a Mac. If I understand correctly, the Video Spigot can display NTSC in a small window as well as capture the data in Quicktime format. However, if I want to use a larger window, what are my options? Perhaps I misunderstood the Video Spigot review... Also, I am not interested in Quicktime. I would merely like to use my Mac as a television from time to time. I have a nice Sony 1430 monitor, and I would like to use it as a second TV when my wife is watching sitcoms on our regular TV. Perhaps some of the video cards for the Mac accept NTSC input? I have a IIsi, and I am willing to buy a NuBus adapter. Thanks in advance for any help,

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Also not a lawyer, etc. but if I remember correctly the Contempt of Court business is used in order to compel cooperation with what is (perhaps questionably, different issue) the legitimate business of that court. Quite literally the party is found guilty of holding the court "in contempt". Now, the original scheme as suggested here would be to have the key disappear if certain threatening conditions are met. Once the key is gone there is no question of Contempt of Court as there is nothing to compell, the key is no longer there to be produced. Obstruction of justice would be a different issue but if the suspect in question would have some legitmate reason to protect his data from prying eyes (however extenuated) I think that this charge would be a hard nut to make. Perhaps it is time for a lawyer to step in and clear this all up? -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- Vincent A. Kub, WD0DBX | "Saints should always be judged | guilty until they are proven [email protected] | innocent." -Geo. Orwell | 14 W.Cherry St. #2 | "It is good to die before one has Vermillion, S.Dakota 57069 | done anything deserving of death." phone or fax to (605) 624-8680 | - Anaxandirdes | King of Sparta ------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.2

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Mr. Bettman The Guy in the Wrong Sport Mr. Stein The Guy Who Should Be In Charge But Isn't Of course, we also need new names for the individual awards, and other stuff like the President's Cup. President's Cup The Trophy Given To the Best Regular-Season Team Hart winner The Most Valuable Player, chosen from the Guys in the Middle, the Guys on the Right, the Guys on the Left, the Guys Back There, and the Guy in the Net, though typically given only to the Guys in the Middle and the Guys on the Left and on the Right Norris winner The Best Guy in the back; or, the Guy who was awarded for something even though he is not one of the Guys in the Middle or on the Left or the Right ...ad nauseum. :-) -- Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! [email protected] IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!

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Hello, I've been trying to bump map a gif onto a sphere for a while and I can't seem to get it to work. Image mapping works, but not bump mapping. Here's a simple file I was working with, could some kind soul tell me whats wrong with this..... #include "colors.inc" #include "shapes.inc" #include "textures.inc" camera { location <0 1 -3> direction <0 0 1.5> up <0 1 0> right <1.33 0 0> look_at <0 1 2> } object { light_source { <2 4 -3> color White } } object { sphere { <0 1 2> 1 } texture { bump_map { 1 <0 1 2> gif "surf.gif"} } } NOTE: surf.gif is a plasma fractal from Fractint that is using the landscape palette map. Thanks in advance -Daniel-

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I don't meant to defend Eric Molas- I find it somewhat annoying when someone pops up on alt.atheism to tell us all about his (usually atheistic) beliefs, so I can certainly see how Christians might be annoyed- but I'd like to point out a few things. "no meaning from God" is not the same as "no meaning". From my (atheistic) point of view, if you want meaning in your life, you get to go and get some or make some. No free gifts of meaning. (I never quite understood how any God can just "give" your life meaning, actually. If he says you exists to do or be X, that gives you a purpose if you care to accept it, but is that the same thing? But I digress...) This would truely be a miserably existance, which I doubt Eric endures. Life can be enjoyable, so you can live it because you like it, or purposefull, so you can live it to get something done. One should endeavour to make it so, if it is not. Otherwise it would be as you say. Terrible. Probably true. Remeber he almost certainly sees that particular joy as an illusion, and does not want it. So maybe it isn't so bad? As an atheist, I am free to be a human person. I think, love, choose, and create. Ah, now here we begin to diverge. I will not live forever with anyone. (I don't think you will either, but you are welcome to your opinion on the matter.) I tend to agree with you. It's my opinion that (unlike drugs) religions are normal parts of human societies. I think they have outlived their usefullness, but they are evidently quite ordinary, normal things that haven't proved lethal to humanity yet. I have heard this claim quite a few times. Does anybody here know who first came up with the "God-shaped hole" business? You might want to provide some evidence next time you make a claim like this. I don't know Eric, but I do not think it is wise to assume he has a less joy-filled and abundant life because he holds certain beliefs. --- - Dan Johnson And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0

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Hey Pal! Who're you calling litte? Tony

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This is indeed one function, but more sophisticated ones do level control and ground-lift (separating the keyboard and mixer earths) aswell. Simple ones are just that - a transformer. A decent quality audio trans- former will cost most of that $50. They are wired thus... HOT --------------| |----------------- HOT )||( Input from )||( Balanced out to mixer Keyboard )||( | |----------------- COLD | GND --------------|-------------------- GND The ground-lift switch disconnects the GND line from the mixer. The transformer ratio depends on the precise application, but around 10:1 turns ratio may be a good place to start. Christopher

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My BBB Autoline arbitration experience is over. The outcome was decidedly mixed. I won the battle but lost the war. The arbitrator found that the car was defective, but decided to offer a repurchase well below market value :(. At the time of the hearing, average retail on my truck in the NADA book was $21,025, but the decision was for $17,665. I wrote a letter to the Council of Better Business Bureaus pointing out the fact that if you have an automobile that does not depreciate rapidly, the manufacturer has no incentive to deal with you. There is no way that the manufacturer can loose because they can turn around and sell the vehicle at a profit if the consumer is awarded a repurchase. The attitude of Chevrolet's representative at the hearing tends to support this point of view; he was totally unprepared and did not seem to take the proceeding very seriously. I decided to take the repurchase, even though I am getting totally screwed on the price. I will not have to deal with continuing repairs or selling a lemon myself, and I have no case for a civil suit based on the Idaho lemon law. I am planning to send a letter to my elected representatives telling them how utterly ridiculous the Idaho lemon law is. The law allows for a "use deduction" equal to the IRS mileage allowance. As if Chevrolet were buying my gas and paying for my insurance. Summary of the case: In May 1992 I bought a new 3/4 ton HD Chevrolet pickup. Between May 1992 and December 1992 this vehicle required repair after repair. Systems that required attention included the transmission, heater fan, paint, suspension, and motor. The main problem was the five speed manual transmission. They could not install a non-defective transmission in at least four attempts. So, in summary, it is possible to get a repurchase, but you are going to get screwed on the price, unless you paid too much in the first place, or if your car happens to be a model that depreciates rapidly.

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[reply to [email protected] (Jacquelin Aldridge)] The acquisition of scientific knowledge is completely scientific. The application of that knowledge in individual cases may be more art than science. Certainly we don't have all the answers. The question is, what is the most reliable means of acquiring further medical knowledge? The scientific method has proven itself to be reliable. The *only* reason alternative therapies are shunned by physicians is that their practitioners refuse to submit their theories to rigorous scientific scrutiny, insisting that "tradition" or anecdotal evidence are sufficient. These have been shown many times in the past to be very unreliable ways of acquiring reliable knowledge. Crook's ideas have never been backed up by scientific evidence. His unwillingness to do good science makes the rest of us doubt the veracity of his contentions.

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Celebrating in joy the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people by your criminal grandparents between 1914 and 1920? Did you think that you could cover up the genocide perpetrated by your fascist grandparents against my grandparents in 1914? You've never heard of 'April 23rd'? "In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul. It is in our power to tear away the veil of illusion that some of us create for ourselves. It certainly is possible to severe the artificial life-support system of an imagined 'ethnic purity' that some of us falsely trust as the only structure that can support their heart beats in this alien land." (Sahak Melkonian - 1920 - "Preserving the Armenian purity") During the First World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, the Armenian Dictatorship through a premeditated and systematic genocide, tried to complete its centuries-old policy of annihilation against the Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and deporting the rest from their 1,000 year homeland. The attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance of Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people. This event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government and international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark Bristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford Shaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, Ohanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General Bolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, Kazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis Aharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa, Dr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel Bortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many others. J. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of the Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University. Bernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History, Princeton University. Halil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago. Peter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark. Stanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles. Thomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research Institute, University of Pennsylvania. Ronald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies, University of Illinois. Howard Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut. Dankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political Science, City University Graduate School, New York. John Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History, University of Chicago. John Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of California at Berkeley. Alan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University. Avigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University. Andreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles. Kathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University. Roderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University. Walter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts. Caesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota. Tom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Tibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University. Justin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville. Jon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon). Robert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky. Madeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland. James Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan. .......so the list goes on and on and on..... Serdar Argic

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COuld he? And the first three that died, when guns ablazing in came the BATF and FBI? I imagine I would have some trouble giving up my children to someone who had just shot -- what -- two of them? NB: It takes two sets of guns in a situation like this. Fanatical: those whowill not tolerate another's way of life Religious: Based on emotional, internal, or otherwise lacking in commonly defined _scientific_ basis, including legal ones, such as this old saw: Innocent untilproven guilty not Innocent until presumed guilty Who is the fanatic? Note who is dead; this usually bespeaks a fair bit for the idea that the OTHER side also had lethal weapons, used fatally. They are dead: the children. At best Koresh was an asshole and the government criminally negligent in its hadni\ling of the case. At worst, Koresh and his followers were innocent not brainwashed guilty of illegal arms possession (as yet unproven) and murderedd along with 25 children They cannot speak for themselves Members of the (surviving, alive, and not burned to death) BATF/FBI can, and are inappropriately to the public eye outside the bounds of their legal authorities read the charter: the Constitution specifies that the COURTS convict, while the enforcement arm INVESTIGATES, and that the evidence involved shuld not be disseminated in a way to harm or injure a party involved prior to that action; its called slander or libel (even where factually true butthen distoted or disseminated with intent to harm for the purpose of covering their butts because the bottom line is: they SAID they wanted the kids to get out alive and theFBI, the BATF, Ms. Reno, the Prez, and EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS SICK SELFSERVING GROUP OF UPRIGHT ANIMALS that used to be a freedom loving peaceful country called America: look up the name, it might surprise you has turned the "point the finger of blame" on the OTHER guy. and LET THOSE KIDS DIE. Note well: they lived 51 days; they only died when attacked by outside force. SPock's World, Diane Duane: The spear in the heart of another is the spear in your own .... ALL of us are responsible. Iam; you are. The question is not whether, but how: Guess what: you get to make up your own mind on that. Who created the war zone? You should be ashamed of bypassing that. It's the same damned (Literally) comment made by the folks in the former Yugoslavia to justify Ethnic Cleansing: "Gee, they had the guns, all they had to do was surrender". Whose "cause" did they die for? The one where they lived, peacibly, to all known purposes (until proven in COurt, folks!), or the Cuase of Righteous Government SafeGuarding The Freedom Of The CHildren Who are now dead. AgainI say: I do NOT know who did what I was NOT there. The FBI leaders show moral SICKness trying to convict in the press ahead of schedule And you should look over your shoulder, becuase if there is anything my ruminations that actually sets onto real fact of what happened and I do not know that; I am defending people who ahving been burned to death cannot speak for themselves you may, in 22-5 years, find that the concept in our Court system has gone from Due Processss to Due Profit and the BATF come to collect their fair share of the tax on the value of your house if you rented it for income which is going down now, folks. Read Bankruptcy 1995 Its accurate in figures and it bypasses the greedy businessman and mankers who have taken profit from the corruption of our govbernment. Look to where the money went, folks. You got $10 for medicare that paid a doctor for $00.50 worth of medicine. This is the customaryprofitmargin to businessmen for goernment entitlements. Who wll own the land of the cult now? Note well: it WAS nonproift, religious, and nontaxable. Large tract of land .... hmmm. Use your brains, folks: it happened Germany, and it can happen here. 4.3 trillion (admitted) and counting.... royc.

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Here are the results after three days of voting. Remember 3pts for 1st, 2 for 2nd, and 1 for 3rd. Also, you can still turn in votes! And.. if the guy isn't a regular goalie or he is retired, please include the team! Thanks for your time, and keep on sending in those votes! Player Team Pts Votes ----------------------------------------------------------- 1. Brian Hayward San Jose 15 6 Andy Moog Boston 15 6 3. Curtis Joseph St. Louis 11 5 4. Ed Belfour Chicago 10 5 5. Gerry Cheevers Boston (retired) 5 3 Manon Rheaume Atlanta (IHL) 5 2 Ron Hextall Quebec 5 2 8. Don Beaupre Washington 4 2 ----------------------------------------------------------- Others receiving 1 vote: Artus Irbe (SJ), Tim Cheveldae (Det), Clint Malarchuck (Buf/SD,IHL), Grant Fuhr (Buf), Rick Wamsley (Tor,ret), Jon Casey (Minn), John Vanbiesbrouck (NYR), Ken Dryden (Mon,ret), Bob Essensa (Win), Mike Vernon (Cal), Glenn Healy (NYI), Tommy Soderstron (???), Ray LeBlanc (USA).

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Reduced Prices! I have a list of things forsale on behalf of my brother, who's moving (moved already) Offer: 1) Black and Decker Duster Plus (Portable Hand Vaccum) purchased for $32, $12 2) SR-1000 Dual Cassette Portable Player, AM/FM 5-Band graphics Equalizer, high speed dubing, Duo Tape.Tape deck A, seems to have lost treble sound. But, I bet it's fixable. purchased for $80 $25 3)Monolux Zoom MicroScope, up to 1200X magnification Made in Japan, includes case and accessories purchased for $50 $20 4)Sunbeam 1400 Hair Dryer, the dryer you put your head under/into. You know, the ones you see in the salons. (Don't ask me why my bro had it) purchased for $60 $24 5)Everylast Speed Bag, all leather. Brand new, never used $10 6)Osterizer Pusle Matic Blender, with 10 speeds and a cookbook, 5 years old $10 purchased for $50 8)Binolux Binoculars . 7x35, extra wide angle 525ft. at 1000yds. with case. very new. $20 9)Proctor and Silex Spray,Steam and Dry Iron. very new. $10 Any questions, contact me thru e-mail and I will reply expeditously And always, S+H are not included, so please consider this. And lastly, I'm a very reasonable.Very Reasonable.

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The federal government has mandated that all passenger cars by model year '95 return to the floor mounted dimmer switch. A study by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has found that an unacceptable percentage of after dusk collisions were the direct result of unskilled drivers getting their left foot stuck in the steering wheel :-) -- Ron Gaskins [email protected] Automotive Electronic Systems Delco Electronics GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904

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Roger Maynard shares his views, with the masses, on Bob Gainey and life in general: It was Bryan Trottier, not Denis Potvin. It was a vicious 'boarding' from behind...Trottier was given a major. But Roger, what the hell does this have to do with Gainey's skill as a hockey player? If Probert smashes Gilmour's head into the boards next week, will that diminish your assessment of Gilmour's skills? I would take Fuhr and Sanderson off of the latter. I think Gainey would be honoured to know that you've included him on this list. I also think you have a relatively naive view about what wins a hockey game...pluggers are an integral part of any team. The Selke is designed to acknowledge their contribution...I think that most people understand that it's not the Nobel Prize...so settle down. congenially, as always, jd -- James David [email protected]

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True (especially for electrolytic capacitors at high temperature). Low power quartz oscillators are usually 32 kHz (and THESE have significant temperature drifts, which one doesn't often notice while wearing the watch on one's wrist). Low temperature sensitivity is available in other crystal types, which unfortunately are larger and higher frequency (1 MHz or so) and take more battery power. Programmable timers might be less accurate, but they are more power-stingy than suitable crystal oscillators.

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This is generally called phimosis..usually it is due to an inflammation, and ca n be retracted in the physician's offfice rather eaaasily. One should see a GP , or in complicated cases, a urologist.

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FOR SALE(of course) Linear Power model 952 IQ 2 channel automotive stereo amplifier 95 watts peak per channel 2 ohm stable fidelity tested $100 You pay shipping 1 Pair (two (2)) Mobile Authority woofers 10 inch 2 inch voice coil 20 oz magnet 130 watt peak power handeling 4 ohms $40 for both, you pay shipping (will not sell seperatly) reply thru e-mail to: Karl R. Schimmel

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Hi ! If you want to have Soft-Scrolling on your VGA, you have to change some intern registers of the CRTC. But it is a little bit difficult to explain, so I would suggest, you take a look at "The Programming of the EGA/VGA-Adapter" by Addison-Wesley. You will find all useful descriptions for every available VGA-Register. -Boris

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I couldnt agree more. That is how it SHOULD work. People should also ALWAYS see motorcycles too. I CONSTANTLY scan behind me (I have one of those wink mirrors) and two outside mirrors. I actually spend just as much time checking my six (cops you know). I still get caught off guard every now and then.

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I was watching the Detroit-Minnesota game last night and thought I saw an octopus on the ice after Ysebaert scored to tie the game at two. What gives? (is there some custom to throw octopuses on the ice in Detroit?) ------- Not Responsible -- Dain Bramaged!!

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I started a similar thread about a month ago, and got many replies. The summary: CTX 14": Nasty, low quality. Avoid. CTX 15" Proscan: Not as good as some other makes; however, cheap. Main problem seems poor quality control. Some reported pincushioning (the problem I had), others poor focus, etc, etc. I complained about mine and it was 're-tuned' (I dodn't even pay shipping) and returned to me in 2 days. It's now clear, well-focussed and has no pincushioning or barrel distortion at all. I'm very happy with it, and the digital controls and mode memory are nice. Certainly, a Trinitron (say) would be much nicer, but that's well out of my price range. Conclusion: If you're on a budget, get one and be prepared to send it back if it's not perfect. It probably won't be when you get it, but has good potential.

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I want to achieve an overall throughput rate of around 5 megabytes / sec for very large data transfers. (Around 5 MB.) I have a Quadra 950. I have a NuBus network card that can pump data in to mac memory at 8.5 MB/s. (using block-mode transfers) I have a high-speed disk array (no asynchronous PB calls) that can achieve 6.8 MB/s. Let's say all transfers go from disk to buffer to network card. It is not enough to first transfer all the data from the disk to buffer, then transfer all the data from the buffer to card. (6.8 MB/s then 8.5 MB/s result in an overall 3.8 MB/s. Too slow!) So I tried the following scheme: For an n-megabyte transfer, Step 1: Load the 1st MB from disk to buffer. Step 2: Asynch send 1st MB out card, Load the 2nd MB from disk to buffer. Step 3: Asynch send 2nd MB out card, Load the 3rd MB from disk to buffer. ... Step n: Asynch send the n-1 MB out card, Load the nth MB from disk to buffer. Step n+1: Send the nth MB out card. Even though the code apparently does execute the card transfer asynchronously, and the card does not use the Mac cpu at all, (It is using the buffer, tho') each of the steps 2 through n take as long as if the two transfers were executed one after another. So there is no improvement in the rate. Why? Is the mac RAM dual-port? (So the NuBus card and the disk driver can both access data at the same time.) Is the problem that the two devices, card and disk driver, both have to use the same bus to mac RAM? Is there anything I can do?

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Secular laws seem to value criminal life more than the victims life, Islam places the rights of society and every member in it above the rights of the individual, this is what I call true human rights. As a Muslim living in a non-Muslim land I am bound by the laws of the land I live in, but I do not disregard Islamic Law it still remains a part of my life. If the laws of a land conflict with my religion to such an extent that I am prevented from being allowed to practise my religion then I must leave the land. So in a way Islamic law does take precendence over secular law but we are instructed to follow the laws of the land that we live in too. In an Islamic state (one ruled by a Khaliphate) religions other than Islam are allowed to rule by their own religious laws provided they don't affect the genral population and don't come into direct conflict with state laws, Dhimmis (non-Muslim population) are exempt from most Islamic laws on religion, such as fighting in a Jihad, giving Zakat (alms giving) etc but are given the benefit of these two acts such as Military protection and if they are poor they will receive Zakat. After the Fatwa didn't Rushdie re-affirm his faith in Islam, didn't he go thru' a very public "conversion" to Islam? If so he is binding himself to Islamic Laws. He has to publicly renounce in his belief in Islam so the burden is on him. Mas

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What interpretations? Just read it as it's written. "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Where does it say "The right of the people to be members of a militia shall not be infringed" or "The right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed?" NOWHERE. "Well-educated businessmen being necessary to the ability of the nation to compete in the international marketplace, the right of the people to attend schools shall not be infringed." Would you "interpret" this to mean that only businessmen should have a protected right to attend schools? Why or why not?

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/////// And we thought the unfortunate people in the Branch Dividians were Brainwashed ?? They don't hold a candle to this guy...... D:d :wq

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Does anybody have an opinion on the Philips 1762DT 17" monitor? How does it compare to the Nanao 17"? I am looking for a good 17" (like many other net'ers) and found a good price for the Philips. Here some the specs: Sony Trinitron tube digital micro control 1280x1024 NI .25 dp 300x225 mm display area to 100 Hz refresh anti-glare, MPR-II... auto-scan 30-64 kHz Why don't I ever see this monitor for sale (ONE company in Apr computer shopper) What is the 1764DC? What is the best price around for this?.... and how 'bout that MAG 17"? I love my MAG 15" (except for that little color alignment thing on the l/r edges)...

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It is my understanding that the Dead will sing the NA at the Giants home opener on Mon. 4/12. The Giants are opening today in St. Louis. luigi

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Agreed. It is a failure of libertarianism if the ideology does not provide any reasonable way to restrain such actions other than utopian dreams. Just as Marxism "fails" to specify how pure communism is to be achieved and the state is to "wither away," libertarians frequently fail to show how weakening the power of the state will result in improvement in the human condition. This is a strawman argument and fails on several grounds. In this case, "limited" and "big" government are not defined. I would point out that Lebanon, Somalia, and the former Yugoslavia are by some definitions nations with "limited" government, while the US, Canada, and nations in Western Europe (where "people would rather live") are often pointed out as nations with "big government" from a libertarian point of view. The argument is not between those who want "limited" government and those who want "unlimited" government. It is between those who believe government regulation in a capitalist economy serves worthwhile ends and those who believe such regulation is neither desirable on empirical grounds nor justifiable on ideological grounds. jsh

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The Fujitsu 2322 uses what is known as an 'SMD' interface (Storage Module Device?). A lot of older minis used it. Sun still does on their server models. There are several different speeds of SMD, and I think that the Fuji drive you have is rated at about 24 Mb/sec (thats megabits). There used to be several companies that made couplers for the PC (Interphase in Texas being one), but I think that the market pretty much has dried up. Controllers for this type of drive are readily available for VME buses though. Rumor has it that there is a SMD to SCSI adapter available, but I think that it was designed for slower SMD devices. In other words, if you have a PC or Mac, that drive is pretty much dogmeat. Cheers, Corwin

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That still doesn't mean we should cheer their deaths. Policemen are also in the line of fire and their job includes the possibility of getting killed. Should we be happy when they die? As I said before, the question is not whether or not you agree with the policies of Israel. You may wish for the Israelis to cease occupation, but don't rejoice in death.

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Davis will be paid by three clubs this year, I think the Phils are responsbible for about $600,000 or so. They didn't wait for him to clear waivers as three other clubs were also very interested in him. A gamble? Yes. Won the CY Young, too, for that year.

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I've acquired an old Logitech Series 7 (3-button) mouse, and I'm told that this is a bus mouse. Does anyone want to unload an old (pc-clone) bus-card for this mouse? email replies to: [email protected]

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I have a strange piece of equipment to unload. It is a Ether+ SCSI interface. Apparently, it can be plugged into a SCSI port and from there to an ethernet. That way you save a slot. Nifty. Well, I assume you people know more about it, so, judging by the $350 price tag new, I'll ask, say, $75? Anybody interested?

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: Speaking of great players, man-oh-man can Quebec skate. I haven't seen a : team so potent on the rush in a long time. Watching them break out of their : zone, especially Sundin, is a treat to watch. They remind me of the Red : Army. : [email protected] (pissed-off Habs fan) Yeah, the Nords look like they're going to be good...but (excuse the bias) have you ever watched the Pens on a rush?...Don't answer: everyone has seen this footage. Near the end of the season when the Pens played the Nords it was like watching a (younger) double of the Pens. ...The Nords looked good right up to the point when they lost. -- Ravi Shah [email protected]

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While there are too many PS clones to count, some of which are quite poor, trying to clone something that goes through regular modifications does require some patience. Three questions come to mid real quick for something like this. Q: Which version of Adobe PS will we clone? Aside from the level 1 and level 2 issues, Adobe has in the past released new code that incorporates modifications/upgrades/fixes just as all other software vendors do. The level 2 stuff may seem sound now, but I assure you,changes will become more frequent as their customer list begins to dwindle in the face of competition. This allows them to shift people to maintenance, as well as design efforts for level 3. Q: Do we duplicate the bugs, or do we make it work correctly? From the LaserWriter to the LaserJet 4 there have been bugs. (If I had a number to call at HP or Adobe, they'ld have heard from me.) Deciding which approach to take depends on which printer you want to emulate. Q: Do we follow the Red Book, or do we follow someone's implementation? Without a doubt, there are differences between the Red Book and Adobe's PS. With level 2 many issues have been refined but the Red Book does leave big, big holes in the implementation specific stuff. It would be nice it the Red Bood at least pined things down enough so that two different implementations of Adobe's PS don't do the exact opposite given an identical set of conditions. Q: PSCRIPT.DRV? Having done a lot of PS clone testing myself, the unfortunate side of testing is the limited number of sources for test files. The primary source we use is Genoa. And having characterizes their 1992 PS ATS files, (1300+ of them) over half are taken from PSCRIPT.DRV. It may not ideal, but the ATS files are what the printer vendors use. I'm sure that Adobe uses them too, but Adobe's output is by definition correct, even if its wrong. Yes, there are some very poor clones. We've seen them here at Rastek (a sub of Genicom which has its own clone called GeniScript). Some are poor for lack of design, some are poor because they followed the Red Book, and some are poor because the vendors don't know what PS is.

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Mac Classic 2 4/40 for sale 1 year old, excellent condition Includes dustcovers, freeware/shareware (including many fonts ) $800.00 email or call 510/947-6987 (SF Bay Area)

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I understand, believe it or not, and there are any number of kinds of conversation and communication I engage in that I wouldn't even consider using this scheme for. On the other hand, I don't see "Clipper" as providing a secure channel--it just prevents casual eavesdropping. This is part of why I am not worried about it per se. Trying to look at Clipper as a serious security tool is simply ludicrous. It's a voice scrambler, nothing more. There is still plenty of market for real crypto. They cost an arm and a leg, though. "Clipper" is obviously aimed at the mass market. It certainly won't put Cylink out of business. This is old news. I can do this now. There ARE restrictions. Example: We're a networking software vendor with a large overseas share of our market. We cannot currently ship PEM, or even simple DES, in our products without case-by-case approval from the Department of State. ITAR presents a material trade barrier to US firms trying to compete in international information systems markets. Sure, you can use whatever freebie software you want to talk over BBS's in the USA. I, on the other hand, want strong crypto (PKCS, for example) to be the *default* for electronic mail, worldwide. I want priests to be able to hear confession over email. I want lawyers to be able to talk to clients in confidence over email, or doctors talk with patients. I want to be able to order products from my favorite Japanese mail-order catalog over the net. I want to be able to sign contracts, transact business, and so on electronically. This is so far infeasible as a result of the current restrictions on crytographic systems, especially beyond the borders of the USA. Clipper is irrelevant, and if it distracts the authorities into feeling safe, all the better. Its only danger is if it emboldens them into trying to put more restrictions into place, on the theory that it is "good enough for anyone who has nothing to hide." That argument is, of course, utter BS, just as much as "no one needs an assault rifle".

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This is a difficult problem for which there is no obviously good solution. One approach is simply to try and move political opinion and hope a new more libertarian consensus lasts for a while. Another approach is to try and amend the constitution. The original constitution restrained the U.S. government from economic intervention for 100 to 150 years, depending on just how one wants to count it. The First Amendment, though weakened in many ways, still restrains government (particularly state and local), even though on many particular issues the majority is in favor of censorship. I think libertarians would be happy with another 100 years of restraint via an amendment or two (not that I think that's likely to happen). Not necessarily Mr. Hendricks, but other posters seem to see this as a problem with libertarianism, that it cannot be stable. That might be true, but it is not an objection to libertarianism per se. If a libertarian political consensus forms for a decade or two and then falls apart again, we would just be back where we are now. This is unlike the case for socialism where a socialist consensus that held for a while and then fell apart would not leave us where we are now, but instead with lots of bureaucracy that would be hard to get rid of, if not tyranny as the end condition of a strong socialist consensus.

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I sent a response to the White House at [email protected] (White House) and received a nice, automatic reply from MICMAIL noting, in passing, that if I had included a SNail address, I would get a reply in due course. For those who care, my reply was: 1. yes, let's protect the voice network 2. privately-developed crypto has always been available and always will be -- so let's think about how to do law enforcement given that fact not about how to hope to legislate against it 3. my needs for crypto as a system designer are not met by the Clipper Chip. I want freely to export uses of algorithms (like DES & RSA) which are already freely available in the destination country

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If anyone gets the New York Times, the Edit page has a transcript of a VHS from Hams describing their methods of torture and execution. I will post it later on.

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OFM responds to a query about reference works: [Aside from a commentary, you might also want to consider an introduction. These are books intended for use in undergraduate Bible courses. They give historical background, discussion of literary styles, etc. And generally they have good bibligraphies for further reading. I typically recommend Kee, Froehlich and Young's NT introduction... Two other Intros to consider: The "Introduction" by Ku:mmel is a translation of a strandard NT text. The references are slightly dated and the style is somewhat dense, but the book contains a wealth of information. Perrin and Duling's Intro is also very good. It's somewhat more modern than Ku:mmel's but not quite so densely packed. Also the authors tend to go through the books of the NT in the historical order of composition; this gives a very useful perspective on the development of the NT. ... There are also some good one-volume commentaries. ... Probably the best recommendation these days would be Harper's Bible Commentary. A slight dissent: I think the Harper's is "OK" but not great. One particular problem I have is that it tends to be pretty skimpy on bibliographic material. My feeling is that it is OK for quick look-ups, but not real useful for study in depth (e.g. I keep a copy in my office at work). ... (I think there may be a couple of books with this title... So far as I know there is the only one book with this exact title (James L Mays, general editor, Harper and ROw, 1988) although I think I recall a (older) series under the name "Harper Commentaries". Also there's a separate Harper's Bible Dictionary (most of my comments on the HC also apply to the HBD.) My favorite one-volume commentary is the "New Jerome Biblical Commentary". The NJBC is rather Catholic in focus and somewhat biased towards the NT. (The reader can decide for her- or himself whether these are pluses or minuses.) In any case the scholarship is by and large excellent. NOTE: The NJBC is a completely reworked, updated version of the "Jerome Biblical Commentary", copies of which can still be found on sale.

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I'm working on an X11R5 application and have concerns regarding standard colormaps. these colormaps." I wonder what window manager the writer had in mind. Neither twm or mwm seem to create standard colormaps. Of course, one can use xstdcmap to create standard colormaps. However, xstdcmap doesn't seem to try very hard to avoid conflicts with the default colormap. When I use standard colormaps created by xstdcmap, the rest of my display goes black. So it seems as if use of standard colormaps causes the very problem standard colormaps are intended to avoid. Perhaps if every application used standard colormaps, things would be wonderful. But not many applications seem to use standard colormaps. Finally, the operation of the functions XmuGetColormapAllocation, XmuStandardColormap, and XmuCreateColormap seem inconsistent with the section 14.3 of the X11R5 XLIB documentation. According to the section 14.3 of the X11R5 XLIB documentation (p. 436): For GrayScale colormaps, only the colormap, red_max, red_mult, and base_pixel members are defined. The other members are ignored. To compute a GrayScale pixel value, use the following expression: (gray * red_mult + base_pixel) &0xFFFFFFFF XmuGetColormapAllocation, defined in mit/lib/Xmu/CmapAlloc.c, is used by XmuLookupStandardColormap, defined in mit/lib/Xmu/LookupCmap.c to select red_max, green_max, and blue_max values for the call to XmuStandardColormap. When the RGB_GRAY_MAP property is specified, XmuGetColormapAllocation sets red_max to 30% of the total number of cells in the gray scale, sets green_max to 59% of the total number, and sets blue_max ot 11% of the total number. Referring to section 14.3, one would expect XmuGetColormapAllocation to set red_max to the total number of cells in the gray scale. When the RGB_GRAY_MAP property is specified, XmuStandardColormap, defined in mit/lib/Xmu/StdCmap.c, sets red_mult, green_mult, and blue_mult all equal to 1. Referring to section 14.3, one would expect green_mult and blue_mult to be ignored.

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I missed the presentations given in the morning session (when Shea gave his "rambling and almost inaudible" presentation), but I did attend the afternoon session. The meeting was in a small conference room. The speaker was wired with a mike, and there were microphones on the table for the panel members to use. Peons (like me) sat in a foyer outside the conference room, and watched the presentations on closed circuit TV. In general, the sound system was fair to poor, and some of the other speakers (like the committee member from the Italian Space Agency) also were "almost inaudible." Shea didn't "lead the formal presentation," in the sense of running or guiding the presentation. He didn't even attend the afternoon session. Vest ran the show (President of MIT, the chair of the advisory panel).

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In a cell church, the fundamental building block is the "cell group" -- a small group of no more than 15 believers. The small groups are responsible for the ministry of the church: evangelism and discipleship. The emphasis is on relationships, not on programs, and both the evangelism and the discipling are relationship-based. This will probably raise more questions than it answered, but that's it in a nutshell.

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It is certainly possible, and quite easy in most cases, especially on two-strokes. It's very common to do this on bikes where the cylinder-mounting through-studs don't prevent the cylinder from being removed with the engine in the frame. I did this when I assembled the top end on my Indian, which was easier yet because it does not have through-studs. Base flange studs, and separate head bolts, dontchaknow. You have to use a little foresight, rags, duct tape, etc. to keep clips from falling in, clothespins, hoseclamps, etc. to support the cylinder while you're inserting the pins. (Are these called Gudgeon Pins in the UK? If so, what's a Gudgeon?) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Miscellaneous comics for sale. I really would like to get rid of these for lack of space. Buyer pays shipping, and all offers considered. OH, and the first purchase over $20 in any of my posts gets a free Maxx #1/2 coupon, or a trashed copy of Amazing spidey #300. Here goes... Deathlok #1 $3.00 2-17 $1.75 each Annual #1 2.50 Special #1 2.00 Sleepwalker 1,2,6,8,9,13 7.00 (set) or 1.25 each Next Men #1 $3.00 Ray #1 1.00 Deathstroke 5,6 1.75 each Darkhawk 13 1.25 New warrior's 18 1.00 Fantasti Four 358 2.50 Moon Knight 35,36 1.75 each Hulk 386-388 1.50 each Punisher W.Z. 1 2.50 Cage 1 1.50 X-force 1 2.00 Silver Sable 1 2.00 X-calibur 26,27,48,49 1.50 each Hearts of Darkness 5.00 Infinity Guantlet 1-4 2.50 each Batman v. Pred. 1,3 2.00 each " " " (deluxe) 1 5.00 Guardians of the Galaxy 1 3.00 Spider-man 2099 1-3 5.00 (set) Spec. spider-man 189 3.00 (special hologram) Let me know if you'd like to buy anything. My address is [email protected]

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I have noticed that this year has had a lot of high scoring games (at least the NL has). I believe one reason are the expansion teams. Any thoughts?

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Hi, I just got myself a Gateway 4DX-33V and trying to configure X11R5 for it. Has anyone done this before ? More specifically, I need a correct Xconfig file entry that is set up for my graphics card and monitor. I have a 15" Color CrystalScan 1572FS monitor and a VESA LOCAL BUS ATI Ultra Pro with 1MB VRAM video card. Any help will be extremely appreciated. Thanks in advance. Please send replies to [email protected]

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I think this is a misnomer. But, this just shows then that painful execution is not considered "cruel" and unusual punishment. This shows that "cruel" as used in the constitution does NOT refer to whether or not the punishment causes physical pain. Rather, it must be a different meaning. --- " I'd Cheat on Hillary Too."

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I have got a dot matrix printer that came with a Lisa (I think) I wish to attach it to a PC, but have no manual. I have been told that it is some sort of C.Itoh printer in disguise. Can anyone help with manuals or info about codes to send to select fonts, italics etc. I want to write a printer driver for Protext. Thanks in advance Stuart

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Archive-name: graphics/resources-list/part1 Last-modified: 1993/04/17 Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 1/3 ] =================================================== Last Change : 17 April 1993 Many FAQs, including this Listing, are available on the archive site pit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) [18.172.1.27] in the directory pub/usenet/news.answers. The name under which a FAQ is archived appears in the Archive-name line at the top of the article. This FAQ is archived as graphics/resources-list/part[1-3] There's a mail server on that machine. You send a e-mail message to [email protected] containing the keyword "help" (without quotes!) in the message body. You can see in many other places for this Listing. See the item: 0. Places to find the Resource Listing for more information. Items Changed: -------------- RE-ARRANGED the subjects, in order to fir better in the 63K/article limit. I PLAN ON CHANGING HEADERS SOON, SO BE CAREFUL! ONLY THE "Resource Listing" keys are sure to remain in the Subject: line! 0. Places to find the Resource Listing 6. 3D graphics editors a. Public domain, free and shareware systems 9. Plotting packages 18. Molecular visualization stuff [ I'm thinking of making this post bi-weekly. What do you think??? ] -------------- Lines which got changed, have the `#' character in front of them. Added lines are prepended with a `+' Removed lines are just removed. Use 'diff' to locate these changes. ======================================================================== This text is (C)Copyright 1992, 1993 of Nikolaos C. Fotis. You can copy freely this file, provided you keep this copyright notice intact. Compiled by Nikolaos (Nick) C. Fotis, e-mail: [email protected] Please contact me for updates,corrections, etc. Disclaimer: I do not guarantee the accuracy of this document. Use it at your own risk. ======================================================================== This is mainly a guide for computer graphics software. I would suggest reading the Comp. Graphics FAQ for image analysis stuff. It's entitled: (date) comp.graphics Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) John T. Grieggs <[email protected]> is the poster of the official comp.graphics FAQ I have included my comments within braces '[' and ']'. Nikolaos Fotis ======================================================================== Contents of the Resource Listing ================================ PART1: ------ 0. Places to find the Resource Listing 1. ARCHIE 2. Notes 3. Computer graphics FTP site list, by Eric Haines 4. Mail servers and graphics-oriented BBSes 5. Ray-tracing/graphics-related mailing lists. 6. 3D graphics editors a. Public domain, free and shareware systems b. Commercial systems 7. Scene description languages 8. Solids description formats PART2: ------ 9. Plotting packages 10. Image analysis software - Image processing and display PART3: ------ 11. Scene generators/geographical data/Maps/Data files 12. 3D scanners - Digitized 3D Data. 13. Background imagery/textures/datafiles 14. Introduction to rendering algorithms a. Ray tracing b. Z-buffer (depth-buffer) c. Others 15. Where can I find the geometric data for the: a. Teapot ? b. Space Shuttle ? 16. Image annotation software 17. Scientific visualization stuff 18. Molecular visualization stuff 19. GIS (Geographical Information Systems software) Future additions: [Please send me updates/info!] ======================================================================== 0. Places to find the Resource Listing ====================================== #This file is crossposted to comp.graphics, comp.answers and news.answers, so if you can't locate it in comp.graphics, you're advised to search in #comp.answers or news.answers (The latter groups usually are archived in your site. Contact your sysadmin for more info). These 3 articles are posted to comp.graphics 3-4 times a month and are kept in many places (see below) -- Many FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive site pit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) [18.172.1.27] in the directory pub/usenet/news.answers. The name under which a FAQ is archived appears in the Archive-name line at the top of the article. This FAQ is archived as graphics/resources-list/part[1-3] There's a mail server on that machine. You send a e-mail message to [email protected] containing: help in the Subject: field -- The inria-graphlib mail server mirrors this posting (see under the Subject 4: Mail servers ) -- The Resource Listing is accesible through WAIS in the machine enuxva.eas.asu.edu (port 8000) under the name graphics-resources-list. It's got a digest-type line before every numbered item for purposes of indexing. -- Another place that monitors the Listing is the MaasInfo files. For more info contact Robert E. Maas <[email protected]> -- Yet another place to search for FAQs in general is the SWITCH (Swiss Academic and Research Network) system in Switzerland: interactive: telnet nic.switch.ch [130.59.1.40], login as "info". Move to the info_service/Usenet/periodic-postings directory. Search in the 00index file by typing "/" and the word to look for. You may then just read the FAQ in the "faqs" directory, or decide to fetch it by one of the following methods. ftp: login to nic.switch.ch [130.59.1.40] as user anonymous and enter your internet-style address after being prompted for a password. cd info_service/Usenet/periodic-postings mail: send e-mail to RFC-822: [email protected] X.400: /S=archive-server/OU=nic/O=switch/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/ Enter 'help' in the bodypart to receive instructions. No information is required in the subject header line. 1. ARCHIE ========= The Archie is a service system to locate FTP places for requested files. It's appreciated that you will use Archie before asking help in the newsgroups. Archie servers: archie.au or 139.130.4.6 (Aussie/NZ) archie.funet.fi or 128.214.6.100 (Finland/Eur.) archie.th-darmstadt.de or 130.83.128.111 (GER.) cs.huji.ac.il or 132.65.6.5 (Israel) archie.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp or 130.54.20.1 (JAPAN) archie.sogang.ac.kr or 163.239.1.11 (Korea) archie.ncu.edu.tw or telnet 140.115.19.24 (TWN) archie.doc.ic.ac.uk or 146.169.3.7 (UK/Ireland) archie.sura.net or 128.167.254.179 (USA [MD]) archie.unl.edu (password: archie1) (USA [NE]) archie.ans.net or 147.225.1.2 (USA [NY]) archie.rutgers.edu or 128.6.18.15 (USA [NJ]) archie.nz or 130.195.9.4 (New Zealand) Connect to Archie server with telnet and type "archie" as username. To get help type 'help'. You can get 'xarchie' or 'archie', which are clients that call Archie without the burden of a telnet session. 'Xarchie' is on the X11.R5 contrib tape, and 'archie' on comp.sources.misc, vol. 27. To get information on how to use Archie via e-mail, send mail with subject "help" to "archie" account at any of above sites. (Note to Janet/PSS users -- the United Kingdom archie site is accessible on the Janet host doc.ic.ac.uk [000005102000]. Connect to it and specify "archie" as the host name and "archie" as the username.) ========================================================================== 2. Notes ======== (Excerpted from the FAQ article) Please do *not* post or mail messages saying "I can't FTP, could someone mail this to me?" There are a number of automated mail servers that will send you things like this in response to a message. There are a number of sites that archive the Usenet sources newsgroups and make them available via an email query system. You send a message to an automated server saying something like "send comp.sources.unix/fbm", and a few hours or days later you get the file in the mail. ========================================================================== 3. Computer graphics FTP site list, by Eric Haines ================================================== Computer graphics related FTP sites (and maintainers), 26/03/93 compiled by Eric Haines, [email protected] and Nick Fotis, [email protected] Ray-tracers: ------------ RayShade - a great ray tracer for workstations on up, also for PC, Mac & Amiga. PoV - son and successor to DKB trace, written by Compuservers. (For more questions call Drew Wells -- [email protected] or Dave Buck -- [email protected]) ART - ray tracer with a good range of surface types, part of VORT package. DKBtrace - another good ray tracer, from all reports; PCs, Mac II, Amiga, UNIX, VMS (last two with X11 previewer), etc. RTrace - Portugese ray tracer, does bicubic patches, CSG, 3D text, etc. etc. An MS-DOS version for use with DJGPP DOS extender (GO32) exists also, as a Mac port. VIVID2 - A shareware raytracer for PCs - binary only (286/287). Author: Stephen Coy ([email protected]). The 386/387 (no source) version is available to registered users (US$50) direct from the author. RAY4 - Steve Hollasch's 4-dimensional ray tracer - renders hyperspheres, hypertetrahedra, hyperplanes, and hyperparallelepipeds (there's a separate real-time wireframe viewer written in GL called WIRE4 ) . MTV,QRT,DBW - yet more ray tracers, some with interesting features. Distributed/Parallel Raytracers: -------------------------------- XDART - A distributed ray-tracer that runs under X11. There are server binaries which work only on DECstations, SPARCs, HP Snakes (7x0 series) and NeXT. The clients are distributed as binaries and C source. Inetray - A network version of Rayshade 4.0. Needs Sun RPC 4.0 or newer. Contact Andreas Thurnherr ([email protected]) prt, VM_pRAY - parallel ray tracers. Volume renderers: ----------------- VREND - Cornell's Volume Renderer, from Kartch/Devine/Caffey/Warren (FORTRAN). Radiosity (and diffuse lighting) renderers: ------------------------------------------- Radiance - a ray tracer w/radiosity effects, by Greg Ward. Excellent shading models and physically based lighting simulation. Unix/X based, though has been ported to the Amiga and the PC (386). INDIA - An Indian radiosity package based on Radiance. SGI_RAD - An interactive radiosity package that runs on SGI machines with a Spaceball. It includes a house database. Author: Guy Moreillon <[email protected]> RAD - a simple public-domain radiosity package in C. The solution can be run stand-alone on any Unix box, but the walk-through requires a SGI 4D. Author: Bernard Kwok <[email protected]> Renderers which are not raytracers, and graphics libraries: ----------------------------------------------------------- SIPP - Scan line z-buffer and Phong shading renderer. Now uses the shadow buffer algorithm. Tcl-SIPP - a Tcl command interface to the SIPP rendering program. Tcl-SIPP is a set of Tcl commands used to programmed SIPP without having to write and compile C code. Commands are used to specify surfaces, objects, scenes and rendering options. It renders either in PPM format or in Utah Raster Toolkit RLE format or to the photo widget in the Tk-based X11 applications. VOGLE - graphics learning environment (device portable). VOGL - an SGI GL-like library based on VOGLE. REND386 - A *fast* polygon renderer for Intel 386s and up. Version 2 on up. [ It's not photorealistic, but rather a real-time renderer] XSHARP21 - Dr. Dobb's Journal PC renderer source code, with budget texture mapping. Modellers, wireframe viewers: ----------------------------- VISION-3D - Mac modeler, can output Radiance & Rayshade files. IRIT - A CSG solid modeler, with support for freeform surfaces. X3D - A wireframe viewer for X11. 3DV - 3-D wireframe graphics toolkit, with C source, 3dv objects, other stuff Look at major PC archives like wuarchive. One such file is 3DKIT1.ZIP PV3D - a shareware front end modeler for POVRAY, still in beta test. French docs for now, price for registering 250 French Francs. Save disabled. Some extra utilities, DXF files for the registered version. Geometric viewers: ------------------ SALEM - A GL-based package from Dobkin et al. for exploring mathematical structures. GEOMVIEW - A GL-based package for looking and interactively manipulating 3D objects, from Geometry Center at Minnesota. XYZ GeoBench -(eXperimental geometrY Zurich) is a workbench for geometric computation for Macintosh computers. WIRE4 - GL wireframe previewer for Steve Hollasch's RAY4 (see above) Data Formats and Data Sets for Ray Tracing: ------------------------------------------- SPD - a set of procedural databases for testing ray tracers. NFF - simplistic file format used by SPD. OFF - another file format. P3D - a lispy file format. TDDD - Imagine (3D modeler) format, has converters for RayShade, NFF, OFF, etc. Also includes a nice postscript object displayer. Some GREAT models. TTDDDLIB - converts to/from TDDD/TTDDD, OFF, NFF, Rayshade 4.0, Imagine, and vort 3d objects. Also outputs Framemaker MIF files and isometric views in Postscript. Registered users get a TeX PK font converter and a superquadric surfaces generator. Glenn Lewis <[email protected]> [Note : TTDDDLIB is also known as T3DLIB] CHVRTD - Chapel Hill Volume Rendering Test Datasets, includes volume sets for two heads, a brain, a knee, electron density maps for RNA and others. Written Material on Rendering: ------------------------------ RT News - collections of articles on ray tracing. RT bib - references to articles on ray tracing in "refer" format. Rad bib - references to articles on radiosity (global illumination). Speer RT bib - Rick Speer's cross-referenced RT bib, in postscript. RT abstracts - collection by Tom Wilson of abstracts of many RT articles. Paper bank project - various technical papers in electronic form. Contact Juhana Kouhia <[email protected]> Online Bibliography Project : The ACM SIGGRAPH Online Bibliography Project is a database of over 15,000 unique computer graphics and computational geometry references in BibTeX format, available to the computer graphics community as a research and educational resource. The database is located at "siggraph.org". Users may download the BibTeX files via FTP and peruse them offline, or telnet to "siggraph.org" and log in as "biblio" and interactively search the database for entries of interest, by keyword. For the people without Internet access, there's also an e-mail server. Send mail to [email protected] and in the subject or the body of the message include the message send followed by the topic and subtopic you wish. A good place to start is with the command send index which will give you an up-to-date list of available information. Additions/corrections/suggestions may be directed to the admin, "[email protected]". Image Manipulation Libraries: ----------------------------- Utah Raster Toolkit - nice image manipulation tools. PBMPLUS - a great package for image conversion and manipulation. LIBTIFF - library for reading/writing TIFF images. ImageMagick - X11 package for display and interactive manipulation of images. Uses its own format (MIFF), and includes some converters. xv - X-based image display, manipulation, and format converter. xloadimage, xli - displays various formats on an X11 screen. Khoros - a huge, excellent system for image processing, with a visual programming interface and much much more. Uses X windows. FBM - another set of image manipulation tools, somewhat old now. Img - image manipulation, displays on X11 screen, a bit old now. xflick - Plays .FLI animation under X11 XAnim - plays any resolution FLI along with GIF's(including GIF89a animation extensions), DL's and Amiga IFF animations(3,5,J,l) and IFF pictures(including HAM,EHB and color cycling) SDSC - SDSC Image Tools package (San Diego Supercomputing Center) for image manipulation and conversion CLRpaint - A 24-bit paint program for SGI 24bit workstations and 8bit Indigos. Libraries with code for graphics: --------------------------------- Graphics Gems I,II,III - code from the ever so useful books. spline-patch.tar.Z - spline patch ray intersection routines by Sean Graves kaleido - Computation and 3D Display of Uniform Polyhedra. Mirrored in wuarchive. This package computes (and displays) the metrical properties of 75 polyhedra. Author: Dr. Zvi Har'El, e-mail: [email protected] (*) means site is an "official" distributor, so is most up to date. NORTH AMERICA (please look for things on your own continent first...): ------------- wuarchive.wustl.edu [128.252.135.4]: /graphics/graphics - get CONTENTS file for a roadmap. /graphics/graphics/objects/TDDD - *the TTDDD objects and converters*, /mirrors/unix-c/graphics - Rayshade ray tracer, MTV ray tracer, Vort ray tracer, FBM, PBMPLUS, popi, Utah raster toolkit. /mirrors/msdos/graphics - DKB ray tracer, FLI RayTracker demos. /pub/rad.tar.Z - *SGI_RAD*, /graphics/graphics/radiosity - Radiance and Indian radiosity package. /msdos/ddjmag/ddj9209.zip - version 21 of Xsharp, with fast texture mapping. There's lots more, including bibs, Graphics Gems I & II code, OFF, RTN, Radiance, NFF, SIPP, spline patch intersection routines, textbook errata, source code from Roy Hall's book "Illumination and Color in Computer Generated Imagery", etc graphics/graphics/packages/kaleido - *kaleido* George Kyriazis <[email protected]> princeton.edu [128.112.128.1]: /pub/Graphics (note capital "G") - *Rayshade 4.0 ray tracer (and separate 387 executable)*, *color quantization code*, *SPD*, *RT News*, *Wilson's RT abstracts*, "RT bib*, *Utah Raster Toolkit*, newer FBM, *Graphics Gems I, II & III code*. /pub/graphics directory - *SALEM* and other stuff. Craig Kolb <[email protected]> [replaces weedeater.math.yale.edu - note the capital "G" in pub/Graphics] Because there's a trouble with princeton's incoming area, you can upload Rayshade-specific stuff to weedeater.math.yale.edu [128.36.23.17] alfred.ccs.carleton.ca [134.117.1.1]: /pub/dkbtrace - *DKB ray tracer*, /pub/pov-ray/POV-Ray1.0 - *PVRay Compuserve group ray tracer (or PoV)*. David Buck <[email protected]> avalon.chinalake.navy.mil [129.131.31.11]: 3D objects (multiple formats), utilities, file format documents. This site was created to be a 3D object "repository" for the net. Francisco X DeJesus <[email protected]> omicron.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.159]: pub/softlab/CHVRTD - Chapel Hill Volume Rendering Test Datasets. ftp.mv.com [192.80.84.1]: - Official DDJ FTP repository. *XSHARP* peipa.essex.ac.uk [155.245.115.161]: the Pilot European Image Processing Archive; in a directory ipa/synth or something like that, there are image synthesis packages. Adrian Clarke <[email protected]> barkley.berkeley.edu [128.32.142.237] : tcl/extensions/tsipp3.0b.tar.Z - *Tcl-SIPP* Mark Diekhans <[email protected] or [email protected]> acs.cps.msu.edu [35.8.56.90]: pub/sass - *X window fonts converter into Rayshade 3.0 polygons*, Rayshade animation tool(s). Ron Sass <[email protected]> hobbes.lbl.gov [128.3.12.38]: *Radiance* ray trace/radiosity package. Greg Ward <[email protected]> geom.umn.edu [128.101.25.31] : pub/geomview - *GEOMVIEW* Contact (for GEOMVIEW): [email protected] ftp.arc.umn.edu [137.66.130.11] : pub/gvl.tar.Z - the latest version of Bob, Icol and Raz. Source, a manual, man pages, and binaries for IRIX 4.0.5 are included (Bob is a real time volume renderer) pub/ contains also many volume datasets. Ken Chin-Purcell <[email protected]> ftp.kpc.com [144.52.120.9] : /pub/graphics/holl91 - Steve Hollasch's Thesis, /pub/graphics/ray4 - *RAY4*, /pub/graphics/wire4 - *WIRE4*. /pub/mirror/avalon - mirror of avalon's 3D objects repository. Steve Hollasch <[email protected]> swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.54.33] : programs/hollasch-4d - RAY4, SGI Explorer modules and Postscript manual, etc. zamenhof.cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.75] : pub/graphics.formats - Various electronic documents about many object and image formats. Mark Hall <[email protected]> will apparently no longer be maintaining it, see ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. rascal.ics.utexas.edu [128.83.144.1]: /misc/mac/inqueue - VISION-3D facet based modeller, can output RayShade and Radiance files. ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.20.50] : misc/file.formats/graphics.formats - contains various image- and object-format descriptions. Many SciVi tools in various directories, e.g. SGI/Alpha-shape/Alvis-1.0.tar.Z - 3D alpha-shape visualizer (SGI machines only), SGI/Polyview3.0/polyview.Z - interactive visualization and analysis of 3D geometrical structures. Quincey Koziol <[email protected]> tucana.noao.edu [140.252.1.1] : /iraf - the IRAF astronomy package ftp.ipl.rpi.edu [128.113.14.50]: sigma/erich - SPD images and Haines thesis images. pub/images - various 24 and 8 bit image stills and sequences. Kevin Martin <[email protected]> ftp.psc.edu [128.182.66.148]: pub/p3d - p3d_2_0.tar P3D lispy scene language & renderers. Joel Welling <[email protected]> ftp.ee.lbl.gov [128.3.254.68]: *pbmplus.tar.Z*, RayShade data files. Jef Poskanzer <[email protected]> george.lbl.gov [128.3.196.93]: pub/ccs-lib/ccs.tar.Z - *CCS (Complex Conversion System), a standard software interface for image processing* hanauma.stanford.edu [36.51.0.16]: /pub/graphics/Comp.graphics - best of comp.graphics (very extensive), ray-tracers - DBW, MTV, QRT, and more. Joe Dellinger <[email protected]> ftp.uu.net [192.48.96.2]: /graphics - *IRIT*, RT News back issues (not complete), NURBS models, other graphics related material. /graphics/jpeg/jpegsrc.v?.tar.Z - Independent JPEG Group package for reading and writing JPEG files. freebie.engin.umich.edu [141.212.68.23]: *Utah Raster Toolkit*, Spencer Thomas <[email protected]> export.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.0.12] : /contrib - pbmplus, Image Magick, xloadimage, xli, xv, Img, lots more. /pub/R5untarred/mit/demos/gpc - NCGA Graphics Performance Characterization (GPC) Suite. life.pawl.rpi.edu [128.113.10.2]: /pub/ray - *Kyriazis stochastic Ray Tracer*. George Kyriazis <[email protected]> cs.utah.edu [128.110.4.21]: /pub - Utah raster toolkit, *NURBS databases*. Jamie Painter <[email protected]> gatekeeper.dec.com [16.1.0.2]: /pub/DEC/off.tar.Z - *OFF models*, Also GPC Benchmark files (planned, but not checked). Randi Rost <[email protected]> hubcap.clemson.edu [130.127.8.1]: /pub/amiga/incoming/imagine - stuff for the Amiga Imagine & Turbo Silver ray tracers. /pub/amiga/TTDDDLIB - *TTDDDLIB* /pub/amiga/incoming/imagine/objects - MANY objects. Glenn Lewis <[email protected]> pprg.eece.unm.edu [129.24.24.10]: /pub/khoros - *Khoros image processing package (huge, but great)*. Danielle Argiro <[email protected]> expo.lcs.mit.edu [18.30.0.212]: contrib - *PBMPLUS portable bitmap package*, *poskbitmaptars bitmap collection*, *Raveling Img*, xloadimage. Jef Poskanzer <[email protected]> venera.isi.edu [128.9.0.32]: */pub/Img.tar.z and img.tar.z - some image manipulation*, /pub/images - RGB separation photos. Paul Raveling <[email protected]> ucsd.edu [128.54.16.1]: /graphics - utah rle toolkit, pbmplus, fbm, databases, MTV, DBW and other ray tracers, world map, other stuff. Not updated much recently. castlab.engr.wisc.edu [128.104.52.10]: /pub/x3d.2.2.tar.Z - *X3D* /pub/xdart.1.1.* - *XDART* Mark Spychalla <[email protected]> sgi.com [192.48.153.1]: /graphics/tiff - TIFF 6.0 spec & *LIBTIFF* software and pics. Also much SGI- and GL-related stuff (e.g. OpenGL manuals) Sam Leffler <[email protected]> [supercedes okeeffe.berkeley.edu for the LIBTIFF stuff] surya.waterloo.edu [129.97.129.72]: /graphics - FBM, ray tracers ftp.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.22]: /sdscpub - *SDSC* ftp.brl.mil [128.63.16.158]: /brl-cad - information on how to get the BRL CAD package & ray tracer. /images - various test images. A texture library has also begun here. Lee A. Butler <[email protected]> cicero.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.189]: /texture_temp - 512x512 grayscale Brodatz textures, from Julien Flack <[email protected]>. karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.7.6]: pub/Graphics/rtabs.shar.12.90.Z - *Wilson's RT abstracts*, VM_pRAY. J. Eric Townsend <[email protected] or [email protected]> ftp.pitt.edu [130.49.253.1]: /users/qralston/images - 24 bit image archive (small). James Ralston Crawford <[email protected]> ftp.tc.cornell.edu [128.84.201.1]: /pub/vis - *VREND* sunee.waterloo.edu [129.97.50.50]: /pub/raytracers - vivid, *REND386* [or sunee.uwaterloo.ca] archive.umich.edu [141.211.164.153]: /msdos/graphics - PC graphics stuff. /msdos/graphics/raytrace - VIVID2. apple.apple.com [130.43.2.2?]: /pub/ArchiveVol2/prt. research.att.com [192.20.225.2]: /netlib/graphics - *SPD package*, ~/polyhedra - *polyhedra databases*. (If you don't have FTP, use the netlib automatic mail replier: UUCP - research!netlib, Internet - [email protected]. Send one line message "send index" for more info, "send haines from graphics" to get the SPD) siggraph.org [128.248.245.250]: SIGGRAPH archive site. publications - *Online Bibliography Project*, Conference proceedings in various electronic formats (papers, panels), SIGGRAPH Video Review information and order forms. Other stuff in various directories. Automatic mailer is [email protected] ("send index"). ftp.cs.unc.edu [128.109.136.159]: pub/reaction_diffusion - Greg Turk's work on reaction-diffusion textures, X windows code (SIGGRAPH '91) avs.ncsc.org [128.109.178.23]: ~ftp/VolVis92 - Volume datasets from the Boston Workshop on Volume Visualization '92. This site is also the International AVS Center. Terry Myerson <[email protected]> uvacs.cs.virginia.edu [128.143.8.100]: pub/suit/demo/{sparc,dec,etc} - SUIT (Simple User Interface Toolkit). "finger [email protected]" to get detailed instructions. nexus.yorku.ca [130.63.9.66]: /pub/reports/Radiosity_code.tar.Z - *RAD* /pub/reports/Radiosity_thesis.ps.Z - *RAD MSc. Thesis* [This site will be changed to ftp.yorku.ca in the near future] milton.u.washington.edu [128.95.136.1] - ~ftp/public/veos - VEOS Virtual Reality and distributed applications prototyping environment for Unix. Veos Software Support : [email protected] oldpublic/fly - FLY! 3D Visualization Software demo. That package is built for "fly-throughs" from various datasets in near real-time. There are binaries for many platforms. Also, much other Virtual Reality stuff. zug.csmil.umich.edu [141.211.184.2]: X-Xpecs 3D files (an LCD glass shutter for Amiga computers - great for VR stuff!) sugrfx.acs.syr.edu [128.230.24.1]: Various stereo-pair images. [ Has closed down :-( ] sunsite.unc.edu [152.2.22.81]: /pub/academic/computer-science/virtual-reality - Final copy of the sugrfx.acs.syr.edu archive that ceased to exist. It contains Powerglove code, VR papers, 3D images and IRC research material. Jonathan Magid <[email protected]> archive.cis.ohio-state.edu [128.146.8.52]: pub/siggraph92 - Code for Siggraph '92 Course 23 (Procedural Modeling and Rendering Techniques) Dr. David S. Ebert <[email protected]> lyapunov.ucsd.edu [132.239.86.10]: This machine is considered the repository for preprints and programs for nonlinear dynamics, signal processing, and related subjects (and fractals, of course!) Matt Kennel <[email protected]> cod.nosc.mil [128.49.16.5]: /pub/grid.{ps,tex,ascii} - a short survey of methods to interpolate and contour bivariate data ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.1]: /honig --- Various stereo-pair images, movie.c - animates a movie on an X display (8-bit and mono) with digital subtraction. taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil [131.120.1.13]: pub/dabro/cyberware_demo.tar.Z - Human head data pioneer.unm.edu [129.24.9.217]: pub/texture_maps - Hans du Buf's grayscale test textures (aerial swatches, Brodatz textures, synthetic swatches). Space & planetary image repository. Provides access to >150 CD-ROMS with data/images (3 on-line at a time). pub/info/beginner-info - here you should start browsing. Colby Kraybill <[email protected]>. cs.brown.edu [128.148.33.66] : *SRGP/SPHIGS* . For more info on SRGP/SPHIGS: mail -s 'software-distribution' [email protected] pdb.pdb.bnl.gov [130.199.144.1] has data about various organic molecules, bonds between the different atoms, etc. Atomic coordinates (and a load of other stuff) are contained in the "*.ent" files, but the actual atomic dimemsions seem to be missing. You could convert these data to PoV, rayshade, etc. biome.bio.ns.ca [142.2.20.2] : /pub/art - some Renoir paintings, Escher's pictures, etc. ic16.ee.umanitoba.ca [] : /specmark - sample set of images from the `Images from the Edge' CD-ROM (images of atomic landscapes, advanced semiconductors, superconductors and experimental surface chemistry among others). Contact [email protected] explorer.dgp.toronto.edu [128.100.1.129] : pub/sgi/clrpaint - *CLRpaint* pub/sgi/clrview.* - CLRview, a tool that aids in visualization of GIS datasets in may formats like DXF, DEM, Arc/Info, etc. ames.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.18.3]: pub/SPACE/CDROM - images from Magellan and Viking missions etc. Get pub/SPACE/Index first. pub/SPACELINK has most of the SpaceLink service data (see below) e-mail server available: send mail to [email protected] (or ames!archive-server) with subject:"help" or "send SPACE Index" (without the quotes!) Peter Yee <[email protected]> pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.6.2]: images, other data, etc. from JPL missions. Modem access at (818)-354-1333 (no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit). [email protected] or phone (818)-354-7170 spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov [128.158.13.250] (passwd:guest) : space graphics and GIF images from NASA's planetary probes and the Hubble Telescope. Main function is support for teachers (you can telnet also to this site). Dial up access: (205)-895-0028 (300/1200/2400/9600(V.32) baud, 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit). stsci.edu [130.167.1.2] : Hubble Space Telescope stuff (images and other data). Read the README first! Pete Reppert <[email protected]> or Chris O'Dea <[email protected]> pit-manager.mit.edu [18.172.1.27]: /pub/usenet/news.answers - the land of FAQs. graphics and pictures directories of particular interest. [Also available from [email protected] by sending a mail message containing: help] UUCP archive: avatar - RT News back issues. For details, write Kory Hamzeh <[email protected]> EUROPE: ------- nic.funet.fi [128.214.6.100]: *pub/sci/papers - *Paper bank project, including Pete Shirley's entire thesis (with pics)*, *Wilson's RT abstracts*, pub/misc/CIA_WorldMap - CIA world data bank, comp.graphics.research archive, *India*, and much, much more. Juhana Kouhia <[email protected]> dasun2.epfl.ch [128.178.62.2]: Radiance. Good for European sites, but doesn't carry the add-ons that are available for Radiance. isy.liu.se [130.236.1.3]: pub/sipp/sipp-3.0.tar.Z - *SIPP* scan line z-buffer and Phong shading renderer. Jonas Yngvesson <[email protected]> irisa.fr [131.254.2.3]: */iPSC2/VM_pRAY ray tracer*, SPD, /NFF - many non-SPD NFF format scenes, RayShade data files. Didier Badouel <[email protected]> [may have disappeared] phoenix.oulu.fi [130.231.240.17]: *FLI RayTracker animation files (PC VGA) - also big .FLIs (640*480)* *RayScene demos* [Americans: check wuarchive first]. More animations to come. Jari Kahkonen <[email protected]> jyu.fi [128.214.7.5]: /pub/graphics/ray-traces - many ray tracers, including VM_pRAY, DBW, DKB, MTV, QRT, RayShade, some RT News, NFF files. Jari Toivanen <[email protected]> garbo.uwasa.fi [128.214.87.1]: Much PC stuff, etc., /pc/source/contour.f - FORTRAN program to contour scattered data using linear triangle-based interpolation asterix.inescn.pt [192.35.246.17]: pub/RTrace - *RTrace* nffutils.tar.Z (NFF utilities for RTrace), medical data (CAT, etc.) converters to NFF, Autocad to NFF Autolisp code, AUTOCAD 11 to SCN (RTrace's language) converter and other goodies. Antonio Costa ([email protected]) vega.hut.fi [128.214.3.82]: /graphics - RTN archive, ray tracers (MTV, QRT, others), NFF, some models. [ It was shut down months ago , check under nic.funet.fi -- nfotis ] sun4nl.nluug.nl [192.16.202.2]: /pub/graphics/raytrace - DBW.microray, MTV, etc unix.hensa.ac.uk [] : misc/unix/ralcgm/ralcgm.tar.Z - CGM viewer and converter. There's an e-mail server also - mail to [email protected] with the message body "send misc/unix/ralcgm/ralcgm.tar.Z" maeglin.mt.luth.se [130.240.0.25]: graphics/raytracing - prt, others, ~/Doc - *Wilson's RT abstracts*, Vivid. ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.20.225.2]: /pub/unix/graphics/rayshade4.0/inputs - aq.tar.Z is RayShade aquarium [Americans: check princeton.edu first). Heiko Schlichting <[email protected]> maggia.ethz.ch [129.132.17.1]: pub/inetray - *Inetray* and Sun RPC 4.0 code Andreas Thurnherr <[email protected]> osgiliath.id.dth.dk [129.142.65.24]: /pub/amiga/graphics/Radiance - *Amiga port of Radiance 2.0*. Per Bojsen <[email protected]> ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.1.9] : *PoV raytracer* Mirrored in wuarchive, has many goods for PoV. pub/dkbtrace/incoming/polyray - Polyray raytracer pub/dkbtrace/incoming/pv3d* - *PV3D* ftp.uni-kl.de [131.246.9.95]: /pub/amiga/raytracing/imagine - mirror of the hubcap Imagine files. neptune.inf.ethz.ch [129.132.101.33]: XYZ - *XYZ GeoBench* Peter Schorn <[email protected]> iamsun.unibe.ch [130.92.64.10]: /Graphics/graphtal* - a L-system interpreter. Christoph Streit <[email protected]> amiga.physik.unizh.ch [130.60.80.80]: /amiga/gfx - Graphics stuff for the Amiga computer. stesis.hq.eso.org [134.171.8.100]: on-line access to a huge astronomical database. (login:starcat;no passwd) DECnet:STESIS (It's the Space Telescope European Coordination Facility) Benoit Pirenne <[email protected]>, phone +49 89 320 06 433 MIDDLE EAST ----------- gauss.technion.ac.il [132.68.112.60]: *kaleida* AUSTRALIA: ---------- gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au [128.250.70.62]: pub - *VORT(ART) ray tracer*, *VOGLE*, Wilson's ray tracing abstracts, /pub/contrib/artscenes (ART scenes from Italy), pub/images/haines - Haines thesis images, Graphics Gems code, SPD, NFF & OFF databases, NFF and OFF previewers, plus some 8- and 24bit images and lots of other stuff. pub/rad.tar.Z - *SGI_RAD* Bernie Kirby <[email protected]> munnari.oz.au [128.250.1.21]: pub/graphics/vort.tar.Z - *VORT (ART) 2.1 CSG and algebraic surface ray tracer*, *VOGLE*, /pub - DBW, pbmplus. /graphics - room.tar.Z (ART scenes from Italy). David Hook <[email protected]> marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au [134.7.1.1]: pub/graphics/bibliography/Facial_Animation, pub/graphics/bibliography/Morph, pub/graphics/bibliography/UI - stuff about Facial animation, Morphing and User Interfaces. pub/fascia - Fred Parke's fascia program. Valerie Hall <[email protected]> OCEANIA - ASIA: --------------- ccu1.aukland.ac.nz [130.216.1.5]: ftp/mac/architec - *VISION-3D facet based modeller, can output RayShade files*. Many other neat things for Macs. Paul Bourke <[email protected]> scslwide.sony.co.jp [133.138.199.1]: ftp2/SGI/Facial-Animation - Steve Franks site for facial animation. Steve Franks <[email protected] OR [email protected]> 4. Mail servers and graphics-oriented BBSes =========================================== Please check first with the FTP places above, with archie's help. Don't overuse mail servers. There are some troubles with wrong return addresses. Many of these mail servers have a command like path a_valid_return_e-mail_address to get a hint for sending back to you stuff. DEC's FTPMAIL ------------- Send a one-line message to [email protected] WITHOUT a Subject: field, and having a line containing the word 'help'. You should get back a message detailing the relevant procedures you must follow in order to get the files you want. Note that the "reply" or "answer" command in your mailer will not work for this message or any other mail you receive from FTPMAIL. To send requests to FTPMAIL, send an original mail message, not a reply. Complaints should be sent to the [email protected] address rather than to postmaster, since DECWRL's postmaster is not responsible for fixing ftpmail problems. BITFTP ------ For BITNET sites ONLY, there's BITFTP@PUCC. Send a one-line 'help' message to this address for more info. Lightwave 3D mail based file-server ----------------------------------- A mail based file server for 3D objects, 24bit JPEG images, GIF images and image maps is now online for all those with Internet mail access. The server is the official archive site for the Lightwave 3D mail-list and contains many PD and Shareware graphics utilities for several computer platforms including Amiga, Atari, IBM and Macintosh. The server resides on a BBS called "The Graphics BBS". The BBS is operational 24 hours a day 7 days a week at the phone number of +1 908/469-0049. It has upgraded its modem to a Hayes Ultra 144 V.32bis/V.42bis, which has speeds from 300bps up to 38,400bps. If you would like to submit objects, scenes or images to the server, please pack, uuencode and then mail the files to the address: [email protected]. For information on obtaining files from the server send a mail message to the address [email protected] with the following in the body of the message: HELP /DIR And a help file describing how to use the server and a complete directory listing will be sent to you via mail. [ Now it includes the Cyberware head and shouders in TTDDD format! Check it out, only if you can't use FTP! -- nfotis ] INRIA-GRAPHLIB -------------- Pierre Jancene and Sabine Coquillart launched the inria-graphlib mail server a few months ago. echo help | mail [email protected] will give you a quick summary of what inria-graphlib contains and how to browse among its files. echo send contents | mail [email protected] will return the extended summary. As an other example : echo send cgrl from Misc | mail [email protected] will return the Computer Graphics Resource Listing mirrored from comp.graphics. BBSes ----- There are many BBSes that store datafiles, etc.etc., but a guide to these is beyond the scope of this Listing (and the resources of the author!) If you can point to me Internet- or mail- accessible BBSes that carry interesting stuff, send me info! Studio Amiga is a 3D modelling and ray tracing specific BBS, (817) 467-3658. 24 hours, 105 Meg online. -- From Jeff Walkup <[email protected]>: "The Castle" 415/355-2396 (14.4K/v.32bis/v.42/v.42bis/MNP) (In Pacifica, dang close to San Francisco, California, USA) The new-user password is: "TAO". [J]oin base #2; The Castle G/FX, Anim, Video, 3D S.I.G., of which I am the SIG-Op, "Lazerus". -- Bob Lindabury operates a BBS (see above the entry for "The Graphics BBS") -- 'You Can Call Me Ray' ray tracing related BBS in Chicago suburbs (708-358-5611) or (708-358-8721) -- Digital Pixel (Sysop: Mark Ng <[email protected]>) is based at Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Phone : (416) 298 1487 Storage space: 330 megs Modem type: 14.4k baud,16.8k (Zyxel) , v32bis ,v32, mnp 5 Access Fee: none.. (free) System supported : DOS, OS/2, Amiga, Mac. Netmail: Currently no echo mail. Topics: Raytracing, Fractals, Graphics programming, CAD, Any Comp. Graphics related -- From: David Tiberio <[email protected]> Amiga Graphics BBS (516) 473-6351 in Long Island, New York, running 24 hours at 14.4k v.32bis, with 157 megs on line. We also subscribe to 9 mailing lists, of which 5 originate from our BBS, with 3 more to be added soon. These include: Lightwave, Imagine, Real 3D (ray tracing) Database files include: Imagine 3D objects, 3D renderings, scalable fonts, music modules, sound samples, demos, animations, utilities, text databases, and pending Lightwave 3D objects. -- The Graphics Alternative The Graphics Alternative is in El Cerrito, CA., running 24 hours a day at 14.4k HST/v.32bis, with 642MB online and a 1300+ user base. TGA runs two nodes, node 1 (510) 524-2780 is for public access and includes a free 90 day trial subscription. TGA is the West Coast Host for PCGnet, The Profesional CAD and Graphics Network, supporting nodes across the Continental U.S., Alaska, New Zealand, Australia, France and the UK. TGA's file database includes MS-DOS executables for POV, Vivid, RTrace, Rayshade, Polyray, and others. TGA also has numerous graphics utilities, viewers, and conversion utilities. Registered Vivid users can also download the latest Vivid aeta code from a special Vivid conference. -- From: Scott Bethke <[email protected]> The Intersection BBS, 410-250-7149. This BBS Is dedicated to supporting 3D Animators.The system is provided FREE OF CHARGE, and is NOT Commercialized in ANYWAY. Users are given FULL Access on the first call. Features: Usenet NEWS & Internet Mail, Fidonet Echo's & Netmail, 200 Megs online, V.32bis/V.42bis Modem. Platforms of interest: Amiga & The VideoToaster, Macintosh, Ms-Dos, Unix Workstations (Sun, SGI, etc), Atari-ST. -- From: Alfonso Hermida <[email protected]>: Pi Square BBS (301)725-9080 in Maryland. It supports raytracers such as POV and VIVID. The BBS runs off a 486/33Mhz, 100Megs hard drive and CD ROM. Now it runs on 1200-2400bps (this will change soon) Topics: graphics programming, animation,raytracing,programming (general) -- From: Lynn Falkow <[email protected]>: Vertech Design's GRAPHIC CONNECTION. (503) 591-8412 in Portland, Oregon. V.32/V.42bis. The BBS, aside from carrying typical BBS services like message bases ( all topic specific ) and files ( CAD and graphics related -- hundreds of megabytes ), also offers material texture files that are full color, seamlessly tiling, photo-realistic images. There are samples available to first time callers. The BBS is a subscription system although callers have 2 hours before they must subscribe, and there are several subscription rates available. People interested in materials can subscribe to the library in addition to a basic subscription rate, and can use their purchased time to download whichever materials they wish. ========================================================================== 5. Ray-tracing/graphics-related mailing lists ============================================= Imagine ------- Modeling and animation system for the Amiga: send subscription requests to [email protected] send material to [email protected] (Dave Wickard has substituted Steve Worley in the maintenance of the mailing list) - PLEASE note that the unisys.com address is NO longer valid!!! Lightwave --------- (for the Amiga. It's part of Newtek's Video Toaster): send subscription requests to [email protected] send material to [email protected] (Bob Lindabury) Toaster ------- send subscription requests to [email protected] with a *body* of: subscribe toaster-list Real 3D ------- Another modeling and animation system for the Amiga: To subscribe, send a mail containing the body subscribe real3d-l <Your full name> to [email protected] Rayshade -------- send subscription requests to [email protected] send material to [email protected] (Craig Kolb) Alladin 4D for the Amiga ---------- send subscription requests to [email protected] and in the body of the message write #Alladin 4D username@domain Radiance -------- Greg Ward, the author, sends to registered (via e-mail) users digests of his correspodence with them, notes about fixes, updates, etc. His address is: [email protected] REND386 ------- send subscription requests to [email protected] send material to [email protected] PoV ray / DKB raytracers ------------------------ To subscribe, send a mail containing the body subscribe dkb-l <Your full name> to [email protected] send material to [email protected] Mailing List for Massively Parallel Rendering --------------------------------------------- send subscription requests to [email protected] send material to [email protected] ========================================================================== 6. 3D graphics editors ====================== a. Public domain, free and shareware systems ============================================ VISION-3D --------- Mac-based program written by Paul D. Bourke ([email protected]). The program can be used to generate models directly in the RayShade and Radiance file formats (polygons only). It's shareware and listed on the FTP list. BRL --- A solid modeling system for most environments -- including SGI and X11. It has CSG and NURBS, plus support for Non-Manifold Geometry [Whatever it is]. You can get it *free* via FTP by signing and returning the relevant license, found on ftp.brl.mil. Uses ray-tracing for engineering analyses. Contact: Ms. Carla Moyer (410)-273-7794 tel. (410)-272-6763 FAX [email protected] E-mail Snail mail: BRL-CAD Distribution SURVIAC Aberdeen Satellite Office 1003 Old Philadelphia Road, Suite 103 Aberdeen MD 21001 USA IRIT ---- A constructive solid geometry (CSG) modeling program for PC and X11. Includes freeform surface support. Free - see FTP list for where to find it. SurfModel --------- A solid modeling program for PC written in Turbo Pascal 6.0 by Ken Van Camp. Available from SIMTEL, pd1:<msdos.srfmodl> directory. NOODLES ------- From CMU, namely Fritz Printz and Levent Gursoz ([email protected]). It's based on Non Manifold Topology. Ask them for more info, I don't know if they give it away. XYZ2 ---- XYZ2 is an interactive 3-D editor/builder written by Dale P. Stocker to create objects for the SurfaceModel, Automove, and DKB raytracer packages. XYZ2 is free and can be found, for example, in SIMTEL20 as <MSDOS.SURFMODL>XYZ21.ZIP (DOS only??) 3DMOD ----- It's an MSDOS program. Check at barnacle.erc.clarkson.edu [128.153.28.12], /pub/msdos/graphics/3dmod.* . Undocumented file format :-( 3DMOD is (C) 1991 by Micah Silverman, 25 Pierrepoint Ave., Postdam, New York 13676, tel. 315-265-7140 NORTHCAD -------- Shareware, <MSDOS.CAD>NCAD3D42.ZIP in SIMTEL20. Undocumented file format :-( Vertex ------ (Amiga) Shareware, send $40 US (check or money order) to: The Art Machine, 4189 Nickolas Sterling Heights, MI 48310 USA In addition to the now standard file formats, including Lightwave, Imagine, Sculpt, Turbo Silver, GEO and Wavefront, this release offers 3D Professional and RayShade support. (Rayshade is supported only by the primitive "triangle", but you can easily include this output in your RayShade scripts) The latest demo, version 1.62, is available on Fred Fish #727. For more information, contact the author, Alex Deburie, at: [email protected], Phone: (313) 939-2513 ICoons ------ (Amiga) It's a spline based object modeller ("ICoons" = Interactive COONS path editor) in amiga.physik.unizh.ch (gfx/3d/ICoons1.0.lzh). It's free (under the GNU Licence) and requires FPU. The program has a look&feel which is a cross between Journeyman and Imagine, and it generates objects in TTDDD format. It is possible to load Journeyman objects into ICoons, so the program can be used to convert JMan objects to Imagine format. Author: Helge E. Rasmussen <[email protected]> PHONE + 45 36 72 33 00, FAX + 45 36 72 43 00 [ It's also on Fred Fish disk series n.775 - nfotis ] ProtoCAD 3D ----------- Ver 1.1 from Trius (shareware?) It's at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil and oak.oakland.edu as PCAD3D.ZIP (for PCs) It has this menu layout: FILE File handling (Load, Save, Import, Xport...) DRAW Draw 2D objects (Line, Circle, Box...) 3D Draw 3D objects (Mesh, Sphere, Block...) EDIT Editing features (Copy, Move ...) SURFACE Modify objects (Revolve, Xtrude, Sweep...) IMAGE Image zooming features (Update, Window, Half...) OPTION Global defaults (Grid, Toggles, Axis...) PLOT Print drawing/picture (Go, Image...) RENDER Shade objects (Frame, Lighting, Tune...) LAYER Layer options (Select active layer, set Colors...) +Sculptura +--------- + Runs under Windows 3.1, and outputs PoV files. A demo can be found + on wuarchive.wustl.edu in mirrors/win3/demo/demo3d.zip + + Author: Michael Gibson <[email protected]> b. Commercial systems ===================== Alpha_1 ------- A spline-based modeling program written in University of Utah. Features: splines up to trimmed NURBS; support for boolean operations; sweeps, bending, warping, flattening etc.; groups of objects, and transformations; extensible object types. Applications include: NC machining, Animation utilities, Dimensioning, FEM analysis, etc. Rendering subsystem, with support for animations. Support the following platforms: HP 300 and 800's (X11R4, HP-UX 6.5), SGI 4D or PI machines (X11R4 and GL, IRIX 3.3.1), Sun SparcStation (X11R4, SunOS 4.1.1). Licensing and distribution is handled by EGS: Glenn McMinn, President Engineering Geometry Systems 275 East South Temple, Suite 305 Salt Lake City, UT 84111 (801) 575-6021 [email protected] [ Educational pricing ] The charge is $675 per platform. You may run the system on as many different workstations of that type as you wish. For each platform there is also a $250 licensing fee for Portable Standard Lisp (PSL) which is bundled with the system. You need to obtain an additional license from the University of Utah for PSL from the following address: Professor Robert Kessler Computer Science Department University of Utah Salt Lake City, Utah 84112 [ EGS can handle the licensing of PSL for U.S. institutions for a 300 $USD nominal fee -- nfotis ] VERTIGO ------- They have an Educational Institution Program. The package is used in the industrial design, architectural, scientific visualization, educational, broadcast, imaging and post production fields. They'll [quoting from a letter sent to me -- nfotis ] "donate fully configured Vertigo 3D Graphics Software worth over $29,000USD per package to qualified educational institutions for licencing on any number of Silicon Graphics Personal IRIS or POWER Series Workstations. If you use an IRIS Indigo station, we will also licence our Vertigo Revolution Software (worth $12,000USD). If you are interested in participating in this program please send a letter by mail or fax (604/684-2108) on your institution's letterhead briefly outlining your potential uses for Vertigo together with the following information: 1. UNIX version 2. Model and number of SGI systems 3. Peripheral devices 4. Third Party Software. Participants will be asked to contribute $750USD per institution to cover costs of the manual, administration, and shipping. We recommend that Vertigo users subscribe to our technical support services. For an annual fee you will receive: technical assistance on our support hotline, bug fixes, software upgrades and manual updates. For educational institution we will waive the $750 administration fee if support is purchased. The annual support fee is $2,500 plus the following cost for additional machines: Number of machines: 2-20 20+ Additional cost per machine: $700 $600 " [ There's also a 5-day training program - nfotis] Contact: Vertigo Technology INC Suite 1010 1030 West Georgia St. VANCOUVER, BC CANADA, V6E 2Y3 Phone: 604/684-2113 Fax: 604/684-2108 [ Does anyone know of such offers from TDI, Alias, Softimage, Wavefront, etc.??? this would be a VERY interesting part!! -- nfotis ] PADL-2 ------ [ Basically, it's a Solid Modeling Kernel in top of which you build your application(s)] Available by license from Cornell Programmable Automation Cornell University 106 Engineering and Theory Center Ithaca, NY 14853 License fees are very low for educational institutions and gov't agencies. Internal commercial licenses and re-dissemination licenses are available. For an information packet, write to the above address, or send your address to: [email protected] (Richard Marisa) ACIS ---- From Spatial Technology. It's a Solid Modelling kernel callable from C. Heard that many universities got free copies from the company. The person to contact regarding ACIS in academic institutions is Scott Owens, e-mail: [email protected] And their address is: Spatial Technology, Inc. 2425 55th St., Bldg. A Boulder, CO 80301-5704 Phone: (303) 449-0649, Fax: (303) 449-0926 MOVIE-BYU / CQUEL.BYU --------------------- Basically [in my understanding], this is a FEM pre- and post-proccessor system. It's fairly old today, but it still serves some people in Mech. Eng. Depts. Now it's superseded from CQUEL.BYU (pronounced "sequel"). That's a complete modelling, animation and visualization package. Runs in the usual workstation environments (SUN, DEC, HP, SGI, IBM RS6000, and others) You can get a demo version (30-days trial period) either by sending $20 USD in their address or a blank tape. It costs 1,500 for a full run-time licence. Contact: Engineering Computer Graphics Lab 368 Clyde Building, Brigham Young Univ. Provo, UT 84602 Phone: 801-378-2812 E-mail: [email protected] twixt ----- Soon to add stuff about it... If I get a reply to my FAX VOXBLAST -------- It's a volume renderer marketed by: Vaytek Inc. (Fairfield, Iowa phone: 515-472-2227) , running on PCs with 386+FPU at least. Call Vaytek for more info. VoxelBox -------- A 3D Volume renderer for Windows. Features include direct ray-traced volume rendering, color and alpha mapping, gradient lighting, animation, reflections and shadows. Runs on a PC(386 or higher) with at least an 8 bit video card(SVGA is fine) under Windows 3.x. It costs $495. Contact: Jaguar Software Inc. 573 Main St., Suite 9B Winchester, MA 01890 (617) 729-3659 [email protected] (john w poduska) ========================================================================== 7. Scene description languages ============================== NFF --- Neutral file format , by Eric Haines. Very simple, there are some procedural database generators in the SPD package, and many objects floating in various FTP sites. There's also a previewer written in HP Starbase from E.Haines. Also there's one written in VOGLE, so you can use any of the devices VOGLE can output on. (Check in sites carrying VOGLE, like gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au) OFF --- Object file format, from DEC's Randy Rost ([email protected]). [ The object archive server seems to be mothballed. In a future version, I'll remove the ref. to it -- nfotis ] Available also through their mail server. To obtain help about using this service, send a message with a "Subject:" line containing only the word "help" and a null message body to: [email protected]. [For FTP places to get it, see in the relevant place]. There's an OFF previewer for SGI 4D machines, called off-preview in godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au . There are previewers for xview and sunview, also on gondwana. TDDD ---- It's a library of 3D objects with translators to/from OFF, NFF, Rayshade, Imagine or vort objects. Edited copy of the announcement follows (from Raytracing News, V4,#3): New Library of 3D Objects Available via FTP, by Steve Worley ([email protected]) I have assembled a set of over 150 3D objects in a binary format called TDDD. These objects range from human figures to airplanes, from semi-trucks to lampposts. These objects are all freely distributable, and most have READMEs that describe them. In order to convert these objects to a human-readable format, a file with the specification of TDDD is included in the directory with the objects. There is also a shareware system called TTDDDLIB (officially on hubcap.clemson.edu) that will convert (ala PBM+) to/from various object formats : Imagine TTDDD (extension of TDDD?), OFF, NFF, Rayshade 4.0, or vort. Source included for Amiga/Unix as executables for the Amiga. Also outputs Framemaker MIF files and isometric views in Postscript. P3D --- From Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center. The P3D uses lisp with slight extensions to store three-dimensional models. A simple lisp interpreter is included with the P3D release, so there is no need to have access to any vendor's lisp to run this software. The mouse-driven user interfaces for Motif, Open Look, and Silicon Graphics GL, and the DrawP3D subroutine library for generating P3D without ever looking at the underlying Lisp. The P3D software currently supports nine renderers. They are: Painter - Painter's Algorithm, Dore, Silicon Graphics Inc. GL language, Generic Phigs, Sun Phigs+, DEC Phigs+, Rayshade, ART ray tracer (from VORT package) and Pixar RenderMan. The code is available via anonymous FTP from the machines ftp.psc.edu, directory pub/p3d, and nic.funet.fi, directory pub/graphics/programs/p3d. RenderMan --------- Pixar's RenderMan is not free - call Pixar for details. ========================================================================== 8. Solids description formats ============================= a. EEC's ESPRIT project 322 CAD*I (CAD Interfaces) has developed a neutral file format for transfer of CAD data (curves, surfaces, and solid models between CAD systems and from CAD to CAA (Computer Aided Analysis) an CAM (Computer Aided Manufacturing) b. IGES [v. 5.1 now] tries to define a standard to tranfer solid models - Brep and CSG. The current standard number is ANSI Y14.26M-1987 For documentation, you might want to contact Nancy Flower at NCGA Technical Services and Standards, 1-800-225-6242 ext. 325 and the cost is $100. This standard is not available in electronic format. c. PDES/STEP : This slowly emerging standard tries to encompass not only the geometrical information, but also for things like FEM, etc. The main bodies besides this standard are NIST and DARPA. You can get more information about PDES by sending mail to [email protected] and putting the line send index in the body (NOT the Subject:) area of the message. The people at Rutherford Appleton Lab. are also working on STEP tools: they have an EXPRESS compiler and an Exchange file parser, both available in source form (and for free) for research purposes. Soon they will also have an EXPRESS-based database system. For the tools contact Mike Mead, Phone: +44 (0235) 44 6710 (FAX: x 5893), e-mail: [email protected] or {...!}mcsun!uknet!rlinf!mm or mm%[email protected] ========================================================================== End of Part 1 of the Resource Listing

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I'm not sure it is a major limiting move... in the academic circles I've seen, arguing for increased government intervention and management is almost always a plus (not the least because it usually means more high paying jobs for academics as "advisors"). Also consider that it looks like Denning has some decent NSA / government connections, which is always a plus for an academic institute that wants more government funding and work tossed their way. Despicable, yes; career limiting, well, the publicity probably outweighs the drawbacks. And there are a whole bunch of people who think the whole thing is just peachy keen. If it's only going to be used against drug dealers, child pornographers, and terrorists, well it must be good. :p

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Hrm. Sandy Alomar, 24 year old rookie: 132 games, .290/.326/.418. Threw out a few baserunners. Benito Santiago, 22 year old rookie: 146 games, .300/.324/.467. He threw out a few baserunners, too. Ivan Rodriguez, *20* year old rookies: 88 games, .264/.276/.354. Didn't exactly suck behind the plate. True. Which only makes it more important to realize when you have one of the few. Lopez' season last year, adjusted to major league equivalencies, was .306/.330/.472, 15 HRs. How bad does he have to be behind the plate for that to not be better than Olson's .238/.316/.328? Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | [email protected]

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Tigers' manager Sparky Anderson gets his 2,000th career win as moments ago, the Tigers completed a two game sweep over the Oakland A's at Tiger Stadium by beating the A's 3-2. Here are the highlights: R H E Oakland 2 9 0 Detroit 3 7 1 Chad Krueter scored Skeeter Barnes from 1st with an RBI double in the bottom of the ninth against none other than Dennis Eckersley to give the Tigers the victory. Barnes also had an RBI single to score Thurmond to tie the score in the ninth, also off Eckersley (sp?). The A's got their runs on an RBI single by McGwire in the 1st and a solo homer by Reuben Sierra in the 6th. Deer doubled home Kirk Gibson in the 7th for the other Tiger run. John Doherty pitched another strong game for the Tigers, once again lasting through the seventh inning. He was relieved by Bolton and then David Haas in the 8th, and Haas got the win. Bobby Witt started for the A's, and was replaced by Honeycutt in the 6th, followed by Goose Gossage in the 8th, and finally Eckersly in the 9th. Doherty gave up both of the A's runs, while Witt gave up the first Tiger run and Eckerseley gave up the last two. In the post game interview (on WJR radio in Detroit), Sparky Anderson said its one of the few times he's gotten emotional in his managing career. It was a big moment for him, and I'm sure all of us Tiger fans are unanimously very happy for him. And what a way to get number 2,000!. Considering the circumstances, I think it might be appropriate to say: WOOF! Go Tigers!

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From what I understand about radar dectectors all they are is a passive device much like the radio in your car. They work as an antenna picking up that radar signals that the radar gun sends out. Therefore there would be no way of detecting a radar detector any more than there would be of detecting whether some one had a radio in their car.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In message <[email protected]> you write: [...] I'd lost the White House's deathless prose when I posted (that's what happens when you read news at home when you're rat-arsed), but I did have a bunch of follow-ups going on about cellular/cordless comms. The original article has reappeared, so: The President today announced a new initiative that will bring the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary program to improve the security and privacy of telephone communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law enforcement. Hmm, telephone communications could indeed include end-to-end encryption on ordinary landlines. The initiative will involve the creation of new products to accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure telecommunications networks and wireless communications links. But the next paragraph says telecoms networks and wireless communications links. OK, it's far from clear exactly what Cripple (what an apposite anagram) will be applied to, but the reason Joe Public wants secure comms is to stop people listening in to his cellular or cordless phones (and he wouldn't even be bothered about that were it not for Wingnut and Squidqy's misfortunes). Yes, Cripple *might* be for end-to-end encyption, dropping to clear when the other end doesn't have Cripple. But then a cordless-to-ordinary conversation would be in clear leaving the cordless end just as vulnerable as at present. Nope, I suspect that Cripple will only be used on radio links. OK, it's possible `telecommunications networks' could mean `ordinary phone lines', but I'm betting it means the microwave links used by the telcos. My apologies if I'm wrong, particularly if the turgid Press Release makes it clear that I'm wrong and I missed it, but as far as I can see it was full of obfuscation, and anyone expecting end-to-end encryption is in for a surprise (IMHO). BTW, Graham, I've posted questions to alt.security.pgp and not seen any replies/followups from outside Europe - how about you? Have I made it into everyone's kill file, or is there some problem? - --Paul -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.2

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Hello Motif World, a few days ago I posted my announcement for an update of Motif++. I got several requests to send the bindings per e-mail, and I know of several people who have been using Motif++, and there are probably a number of people I am not aware of who are also using Motif++. My question is: How many people 'out there' would be interested to join a mailing-list, where people can ask questions about Motif++, swap stories, and give new ideas about new directions and improvements for the bindings. This would benefit the user-community, as well as give me more insight in what people would like to see added to Motif++. Motif++ is still very much a voluntary project, and this way I can make a list of priorities, in what order things should be added, or changed. If you're interested in joining such a mailing-list, please take the time to reply to this message, and tell me so. When there is sufficient interest, say about 20 people or more, a mailing-list will be set up at my site, and I will post the announcement of the newly-created list to this and other newsgroups.

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Well, I think that most Christians believe that your conciousness will somehow continue on after your 'physical' death, which contradicts what most atheists (myself included) believe, namely that your conciousness, being contained in your brain, dies when your brain dies. I fear the pain that often comes with the process of dying, but since I won't be around to worry about it, I don't fear eternal death. This is something I've always found confusing. If all your nerve endings die with your physical body, why would flame hurt you? How can one "wail and gnash teeth" with no lungs and no teeth?

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Do you happen to know how I can get a serial mouse (9 pins) working on an IBM L40 notebook (which has a kind of bus mouse connection besides serial and parallel interfaces). The manual doesn't say anything about it. I've tried two drivers, with the result that left and right buttons are recognized, but mouse movement is not. Should I cut or shortcut some wires to/from the mouse? Thanks for your help.

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Does anyone know of software that will allow you to convert CorelDraw (.CDR) files containing bitmaps to SCODAL, as this is the only format our bureau's filmrecorder recognises.

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PC Magazine, January 12, 1993 had a review of several personal finance management programe, as did PC-Computing, January 1993. PC World, December 1992 also had articles about Quicken and Managing Your Money. I can email you copies of these articles if you can't find them at your library. I've been using Managing Your Money for several years, and I have several friends who use Quicken, though I've not used it myself. My overall impression is that Quicken is a financial accounts manager while Managing Your Money will help you more completely manage your finances. Here are some features that I believe Managing Your Money and Quicken share: The ability to keep records for each of your financial accounts: checking, savings, charge, cash, or brokerage. You can reconcile your account statements with the records the program keeps. The ability to make a budget and track your spending against that budget. A Checkfree module which will allow you to use the Checkfree bill paying service to pay your bills via your modem. The ability to print checks on your printer. The ability to keep loan records and set up automatic loan payments. The ability to import stock quotations to keep your brokerage accounts up to date. I know Managing Your Money can do this automatically via modem. Quicken probably can as well, but I'm not sure about it. The ability to export tax information to popular tax preparation programs. Here are some features that I believe Managing Your Money has that Quicken does not: A tax prediction module. This looks at your accounts and budget to predict your tax liability for the coming year. It's usefull to fine tune your withholding so Uncle Sam doesn't get his due too early. An insurance and vital records module. This is a place to keep records of your insurance policies as well as other vital records. It can also compute your life expectancy. A financial analysis module. This computes compound interest, effects of inflation, loan payments term or interest, yield to maturity for bonds, savings account yields, days between dates, and loan amortization schedules. It also has functions to help you decide whether to refinance your mortgage, whether you can afford a particular home, whether a particular rental property is a good investment, whether you should buy lease or rent, and whether a particular investment's cash flow is adequate for your situation. This module can also help you plan for retirement and for helping your kids with their tuition. A net worth module. This is a place to record all your assets and liabilities. Your net worth can be computed from this information. Any assets or liabilities recorded in other modules are automatically included here. A "desk" module. This includes a small word processor, a card file you can use to store names, addresses, phone numbers and other vital information about friends and associates, a perpetual calander, a rudimentary calculator, a to-do list, a reminder list, an appointment list, and a place to record your phone calls (for those who need to track such things). Your appointments, reminders and to-do list can be made to display automatically when you start the program. There are probably some things listed above that Quicken has, but I'm almost sure that Quicken doesn't do everything I've listed. If I'm wrong, I'm sure hordes of Quicken devotees will flame me to a crisp. One thing that Quicken has that Managing Your Money does not yet have is a Windows version. MECA software is rumored to be working on a Windows version of Managing Your Money for release late this year.

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I have the PAS16 / Toshiba 3401 combo and have no problems with it.

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I learned when riding bareback as a kid to "palm-reign", by just pushing on the right side of the horse's neck with your right palm to turn left - a lot like countersteering. So that came pretty easy to me in the transition to motorcycles. It took a while however to break my habit of kicking the rear fender with my heels to go faster.

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Reply address: [email protected] If anyone knows anyone else who would like to get sci.space, but doesn't have an Internet feed (or has a cryptic Internet feed), I would be willing to feed it to them. I have a nice offline message reader/editor, an automated modem "mailer" program which will pick up mail bundles (quickly and easily), and an INSTALL.EXE to set them up painlessly. No charge for the sci.space feed, though you have to dial Washington, D.C. This is NOT a BBS -- it's a store & forward system for mail bundles, with minimum connect times. (I'm used to overseas calls.) (This is not an offer for a free feed for any other particular newsgroups.) Speeds of up to 14400 (v32bis) are supported. VIP's might be offered other free services, such as Internet address and other functionality. I get my feed from UUNET and run a 4-line hub. I've been hubbing for years -- I have an extremely reliable hub. The software I provide runs under MS-DOS (and OS/2 and Windows as a DOS box). Other, compatible software packages exist for the MacIntosh and Unix. Any responses should be private and go to: [email protected] (By the way, to all, my apologies for the public traffic on my glib question. I really didn't expect public replys. But thanks to Bill Higgins for the interesting statistics and the lead.)

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I just got my advance program and the "card in the back" is for the Exhibits Plus program -- the exhibits plus admission to a number of conference venues, including a special general session, "Behind the Scenes: Computer Graphics in Film." Admission is not free, but is a nominal $30 (exhibits are open August 3 -- 5). To get a copy of the advance program, you can call 312-321-6830; the advance program itself is a good indication of the excitement of the conference! Sorry -- doesn't work this year!

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These utilities all include complete printed manuals and registration cards. I need to get rid of some excess. They're the latest versions. I've priced these programs at less than half the list price and significantly less than the cheapest mail-order price around. * PC TOOLS FOR DOS 8.0, best-selling utilities collections, includes DOS shell, antivirus program, backup program, disk defragger, memory optimizer, remote communications link, data protection and recovery utilities, appointment book, address book, and more, list $179, sale $80. * NORTON BACKUP FOR DOS 2.2, supports DOS 6, tape backup systems, and LANS, twice as fast as backup in DOS 6, highly automated and customizable, list $149, sale $65. * QAPLUS 4.7, top-rated DOS based systems diagnostics program, more comprehensive than anything included in DOS, Windows, or utilities collections, invaluable for determining sources of problems with RAM, video, drives, ports, keyboard, motherboard, joystick, mouse, speaker, and so on, list $159, sale $70. If you're interested in any of these programs, please phone me at 215-885-7446 (Philadelphia), and I'll save the package for you.

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You realize, of course, that inevitably some anal retentive moron is going to come along and wag his fingers and his jowls in outrage that personal politics are more important than [SMCAP][BOLD][Font:God 999pt.]The Law[smcap][bold][font]. But that's irrelevant to the problem here. Windows came with my system, but on 5.25" disks. I hate using 5.25" disks, so I copied them over to high density 3.5"'s using xcopy. It worked fine. In fact, for a while I was changing configurations and whatnot so much that I decided to try putting them on the hard disk. Not only can you copy them over with one disk per directory, but if you want to, you can simply copy them all into one directory. Makes it a lot nicer when you're switching printer emulations around. Norton 6.0 I don't have much experience with, but when a friend's system crashed, we restored from a backup rather than from the originals, and it worked fine. This would imply that arj a -r norton c:\nu would create a workable backup, and if you did a full install the first time, you've got the whole thing. Never played with WP for Windows; I'm not too big of a fan of anything from Utah. Good luck.... Disclaimer: Don't Copy That Floppy! (tm) Just Say No! (r) Respect Your Elders! For The Wages Of Sin Is (sic) Death And A Hefty Legal Bill! DO YOU OFFEND? Rob

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It can be painless, so it isn't cruel. And, it has occurred frequently since the dawn of time, so it is hardly unusual. But, innocents die due to many causes. Why have you singled out accidental or false execution as the one to take issue with?

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I've never seen a speedometer-reading model. Are you sure? Who makes them? Consider the difficulty of reading the speedo on various makes of cars in use... I've seen single beam moving-mode and split beam moving-mode. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Medin Phone: (205) 730-3169 (w) SSD--Networking (205) 837-1174 (h) Intergraph Corp. M/S GD3004 Internet: [email protected] Huntsville, AL 35894 UUCP: ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin ******* Everywhere You Look (at least around my office) *******

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I have a hard time understanding this attitude. If the gospels are the least bit accurate, then there can be little doubt that Jesus belived hell was a reality. As a teacher, what would be the wise and loving thing to do if people in your audience were headed there? To warn them! It would, however, be rather cruel and/or sadistic to believe that such a place exists and then remain quiet about it. The only scenario I can envision in which dimished respect would be justified is if Jesus knew there was no such place as hell, and spoke about it anyway, just to scare people. Unless you would accuse Jesus of this, I would encourage you to reconsider what a loving response is when you perceive someone to be in danger.

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I always thought that the Pope was a bear. You know, because of that little saying: Does a bear shit in the woods? Is the Pope Catholic?

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The last time I was in microprocessor lab was in 1980, using Z-80. So I don't know a lot of buzz terms in PC hardware. Now I need to purchase a 486, help me to ask the right questions. Motherboard: I need 486-33 with 8 MB ram, with additonal slot for 8 more MB. I would like to get two VESA Local Bus. One for video, not sure what am I going to do with the other. It must be able to run Unix. What are other questions that I should ask to ensure getting a quality stuff? What are other important features ? Monitor: I want a 14" non interlaced svga, but not sure about what brand to get. I can't afford NEC or SONY. What brands should I consider? Acer? Touch? What else should I ask? Video Card: I would like to run Framemaker. So I need a fast video card. Is Western Digital worth the $20 over Cirrus Logic? Do I need more than 1M of V-RAM? One company wanted $50 more for a local bus video card. Is this normal? Hard Drive: Segate, Western Digital, Conner all have the same price. Which one is more liable? which one has better performace? Case/power supply: Given the choise of desktop and minitower, which one is better? What is the adequate power supply? Is cooling a general problem or a non-issue? What features should I ask for? Did I miss anything? I am sure that there are a lot of semi-PC-literates reading this group. Your help is greatly appreciated.

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xgif is the grandfather of XV. --

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Hi folks! Recently saw one post about KREME being a *bad idea*, but that was only one man's opinion.

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>>The info I am about to give is not a rumour, it's the truth. The new >>macintosh coming in the second quarter, will have a cpu of their own. ]Excuse me but... have not all Macs got a CPU!!! ]Alain Alain: Get your facts straight before you post something like this. The Duo Dock does not have a CPU of its own. It is a docking station with ports connecting various components, including the portable PowerBook with its own CPU. I guess these rumored new Duo Docks have a built-in CPU to perform functions of their own. Interesting! If they're not compatible with the current Duo models, I think you'll be hearing a lot more "screwed by Apple" complaints. Imagine a company obsoleting (ooh, a new verb!) a virtually brand new computer... sheesh... Ken -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kenneth Simon Dept of Sociology, Indiana University Internet: [email protected] Bitnet: KSSIMON@IUBACS

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The above headline is much better than the original one. read on.. So far so good... Old friend, whatever.... That is a great attitude for someone who wants to pressure the Serbs to accept a peace plan that gives them most of the territory they got by force and terror. this is a good thing to hear. Anybody wondering why Serbia is not really under any boycott? Anybody remembers the Gulf war? Did Saddam kill 100,000 people and rape 50,000 women? Still in the threatening stage.. Maybe when there is no more Bosnians, the UN will lift the arms Embargo on them! Military intervention? that is reserved for Muslim countries. NOW HEAR THIS: real positive I might add, in favor of his old freinds of course! You bet they are not!

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After reading the first paragraph, a quick scan confirmed my first impression: this is a bunch of revisionist and anti-semitic hogwash. The NY Times reported on April 18, 1993 that the museum "was built through private contributions on Federal land". Your hate-mongering article is devoid of current and historical fact, intellectual content and social value. Down the toilet it goes.....

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Let's assume, for the moment, that the system really is secure unless you get both halves of the encryption key from the two independent escrow houses. Let's say you even trust the escrow houses -- one is the ACLU and the other is the EFF. (And I'm not entirely joking about those two names) In that case the Prince of Wales has nothing to worry about on this system. Indeed, as pointed out, since the current systems, even the current digital systems, are very easy to decode -- right now anybody with an old TV can hear them -- for most people, this will be viewed as an "oh goody" step upwards. And look at how tolerant the public is. They're willing to let the neighbours with the radios hear right now. It was suggested by one person that a *lot* of non-evidentiary wiretapping is going on right now without warrants, because anybody can do it and it's just an ECPA violation. This would stop that. All tapping would need a warrant, or a breach of security at the escrow houses.

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For Sale: 2 Amigas! Commodore Amiga 1000 Best offer 512k Ram 1 Internal Floppy drive Detachable Keyboard 2 Button Mouse Commodore Amiga 500 Best offer 1024k Ram 1 Internal Floppy drive 2 Button Mouse 1 RGB Monitor Best offer 1 External Floppy drive Best offer

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I notice the Toshiba 3401 has 3 versions, B - internal, E - external and P - portable. Can anyone tell me the difference between the portable and the external version? Where in the SF Bay Area can I find a model P? Thanks, --Bill

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No matter how "absurd" it is to suggest that a common moral system created by mankind is absolute, it is not contrary to reason to suggest that a common moral system created by mankind is sensible. In fact, for the Bible to be of any use to mankind as a moral code, it must be interpreted by mankind and a workable moral system created for everyday use. The Jewish Talmud is the result of centuries of Biblical scholars analysing every word of the Torah to understand the morality behind it. The Children of Israel were given a very strict set of Moral, Civil, Judicial and Ceremonial Laws to follow and yet this was clearly not enough to cover every instance of moral dilemma in their Society. For a Christian, the situation is no better. It seems to me that the only code of morality that we have from the Judeo- Christian God is that which is contained in the Bible (which we can see from the diverse opinions in the Christian newsgroups is not clear). There may well be an absolute morality defined by the Judeo-Christian God for mankind to follow but it seems that we only have a subset simply because the concept was written down by man. This leads to the problem of defining morality for our society. If we take the divine Morality then we have a code of practice which may be interpreted in many different ways (as an example, consider the immolation of heretics in the fifteenth century and the interpretation of the Bible which allows a man to do that to another man under the precept to administer Justice). If we take an agnostic Morality then we have a code of practice that can be modified to suit society (with all the danger that this implies). Alternatively, we could take the basis of the Judeo-Christian morality and interpret/extend this to create and justify a code of morality which suits the society we live in and enables the people to live Righteously (as many Christian and Non-Christian philosophers have done). Whatever the driving force behind the definition of morality for our society, I think the important aspect is the result. David. --- On religion:

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The Olds Supreme Convertible got high marks in C/D's recent test, if you can get by the stupid body moldings and stuff. The Saab 900 ragtop may be out of your range, but its a good choice. Is there a new F-car convertible? The Nissan 240SX convertible is a nice car also... Those immediately come to mind...

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: FINLAND: : : D-Jyrki Lumme.......20 : D-Teppo Numminen....20 : D-Peter Ahola.......13 : Well well, they don't like our defenders (mainly Lumme and Numminen)... : C-Jari Kurri........25 : C-Christian Ruuttu..16 : Now, do YOU think that Ruuttu is only worth 16 ? I think it might be 20. : R-Teemu Selanne.....27 : Compared to Kurri, Selanne's points are too high, lets make it 25 or 26. : well in the Canada Cup and World Championships largely due to the efforts of : Markus Ketterer (the goalie), 3-4 or the players listed above and luck. There's : presumably a lot of decent players in Finland that wouldn't be superstars at : the highest level but still valuable role players, however. My guess would be : that the Finnish Canada Cup team would be a .500 team in the NHL. Wow, now, it looks like you don't like our players? What about guys like: Nieminen, Jutila, Riihijarvi, Varvio, Laukkanen, Makela, Keskinen and (even if he is aging) Ruotsalainen? The main difference between finnish and North- American players is, that our players tend to be better in the larger rink. The Canadian defenders are usually slower that defenders in Europe. And I think that there was more in our success than Ketterer and luck (though they helped). I think that the main reason was, that the team worked well together.

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Seems to be, barring evidence to the contrary, that Koresh was simply another deranged fanatic who thought it neccessary to take a whole bunch of folks with him, children and all, to satisfy his delusional mania. Jim Jones, circa 1993. Nope - fruitcakes like Koresh have been demonstrating such evil corruption for centuries.

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In comp.os.ms-windows.misc you write: you might want to look in windows FAQ for this one, but here is my best explanation. But I can't guarantee that I'm not way off base... The permenant swap file is read/written to by windows by talking directly to the hard disk controller card. The controller card must use the protocal set up by western digital (or something like that). Windows creates a file called spart.par in your windows directory that points to that file. It then uses the physical information about your disk to index to information in that file. compressed disks are actually "logical" disks. These disks have different characteristics than the actual physical disk. Furthermore, the information on the compressed disks must be uncompressed before it is used. (i.e it must go through the decompression program that traps disk reads at the operating system level or the BIOS level). Because of this "inbetween" program, windows cannot use direct methods to read from the "logical" disk. a permenant swap file is only there to "reserve" an area of the disk that windows can use and to block that space from DOS. Windows would theoretically not even have to access the file from DOS to use that disk space. (I don't know if it does or doesn't...but it checks for it somewhere everytime you boot windows.) a temporary swap file is just a normal DOS file that is accessed by windows via DOS and the BIOS. If a disk compression program or other TSR is loaded the file access must go through DOS...TSR'S (disk compression)...and BIOS in order to be access. (i.e. NEVER USE A TEMPORARY SWAP FILE...NEVER) more on permenent swap files... i'm sure everyone who has an uncompressed part of their compressed hard disk has seen the message "you have selected a swap file greater than the suggested size...windows will only use the size suggested...do you wan't to create this swap file anyway" or something like that. well, a friend of mine (ROBERT) called microsoft and asked them what and why. what they said is that windows checks the amount of free disk space and divides that number by 2. Then it checks for the largest contiguous block of free disk space. Windows then suggests the smaller of the two numbers. They also said that under absolutely no circumstances...NONE!...will windows uses a swap file larger than the suggested size. Well...that's what he said! I call bull@#$#. If this is true why does windows report the memory is available to me if it's not going to use it? any takers? James

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Don't be ridiculous, Kaldis. I suggest you give the "Ugly American" concept, which I can easily see you demonstrating, a good hard second look. Dear God. Didn't this die out in the fifties with McCarthy and the blacklists? Didn't your mother ever teach you not to generalize? I am a Canadian, and I stand up for _too many_ things with _too much_ certitude. Uh huh. This must explain the world reknowned, record low American crime rate. I see now, it's all becoming so clear to me. No he hasn't. Remarkable audacity and misguidance. What you take for your own courage, sir, is nothing more than simple loud-mouthedness coupled with unrestrained bragging.

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JB> JB> Ron Roth recommends: "Once you have your hypoglycemia CONFIRMED through the JB> proper channels, you might consider the following:..." JB> [diet omitted] JB> JB> 1) Ron...what do YOU consider to be "proper channels"...this sounds suspiciously I'm glad it caught your eye. That's the purpose of this forum to educate those, eager to learn, about the facts of life. That phrase is used to bridle the frenzy of all the would-be respondents, who otherwise would feel being left out as the proper authorities to be consulted on that topic. In short, it means absolutely nothing. JB> like a blood chemistry...glucose tolerance and the like...suddenly chemistry JB> exists? You know perfectly well that this person can be saved needless trouble JB> and expense with simple muscle testing and hair analysis to diagnose...no JB> "CONFIRM" any aberrant physiology...but then again...maybe that's what you mean" Muscle testing and hair analysis, eh? So what other fascinating space-age medical techniques do you use? Do you sit under a pyramid over night as well to shrink your brain back to normal after a mind- expanding day at your 'Save the Earth' clinic? JB> 2) Were you able to understand Dick King's post that "90% of diseases is not thy JB> evaluate the statistic you cited from the New England Journal of Medicine. Coul? Once I figure out what *you* are trying to say, I'll still have to wrestle with the possibility of you conceivably not being able to understand my answer to your question?! JB> 3) Ron...have you ever thought about why you never post in misc.health.alterna- JB> tive...and insist instead upon insinuating your untrained, non-medical, often JB> delusional notions of health and disease into this forum? I suspect from your JB> apparent anger toward MDs and heteropathic medicine that there may be an ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You little psychoanalytical rascal you! Got me all figured out, ja? JB> underlying 'father problem'...of course I can CONFIRM this by surrogate muscle JB> testing one of my patients while they ponder my theory to see if one of their JB> previously weak 'indicator' muscles strengthens...or do you have reservations JB> about my unique methods of diagnosis? [......] JB> JB> John Badanes, DC, CA JB> [email protected] Oh man, when are you going to start teaching all this stuff? I'll bet everyone on this net must be absolutely dying to learn more about going beyond spinal adjustments and head straight for the mind for some Freudian subluxation. --Ron--

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Hi, I need xrn and xarchie for the HP's (9000/730, version 8 OS), either in the source form or, (preferably) in executable form. Please suggest where I can find this, Send e-mail to: [email protected] Thanks in advance, Rao.

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Owen only has one error so far, I believe. That seriously underrepresents the harm he has done in the field. Owen will cleanly play any ball he reaches. He will have a fine fielding percentage, like always. The problem is that he doesn't reach anything that isn't hit straight at him! This wouldn't be quite as obvious a problem if he were playing next to Kelly Gruber or Robin Ventura. But the third baseman for the Yankees is Wade Boggs (who should have moved across the diamond *last* year)! I've only seen one game, Abbott's first start, but there were three balls hit to the left side which would have been stopped by quality defensive players. Instead they were charged as hits against Abbott.

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I would hope that if you intend to have a reasonable discussion you might wait until I express an opinion before deciding I should be flamed for it. As for 'war' I am not sure how I would define it. If you just look at attacks on villages then there is no way of deciding when it started. Would you count the riots in the 20's and 30's? Violence but not war. I personally think that 'war', as opposed to civil disturbance or whatever, requires organisation, planning and some measure of regualr or semi-regular forces. Perhaps the Arab Liberation Army counts. I could easily be convinced it was so. From what I know they did not have a great deal of planning let alone organisation. The Haganah and Palmach certainly did. That is not a cause for criticism, it merely reflects the great organisation generally in the 'Zionist' camp. Now you are being silly aren't you? In any case the war did NOT start with the invasion of the Arab Armies. You see we both agree on something. And the previous posters were wrong, no? Again I am not sure, I doubt you want my opinion anyway, but I think war requires organisation as I said before. It needs a group to command and plan. If Fatah lauches rockets from Southern Lebanon (and are you sure you have the right group - not the Moslems again?) then that sounds like war to me. Stone throwing does not. Joseph Askew

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