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At the moment, I am using a Sun 3/80 (cgfour/bwtwo) with SunOS 4.0.3 and OpenWindows 2.0. This configuration is slow and I can't run all the programs on OW2. For example, when I start a mailtool from OW3 and display it on my OW2 display, I can't open the compose window. I want to install an X11R5 or X11R4 server on my Sun and use xdm (yes, we have xdm already running for other X-Terminals) to log in and start the X programs. Is there a "ready to go" binairy of the X11 server for my configuration (I have read something about Xsun), or must I compile the X11 stuff by myself? Any help is welcome V. Smeets

It first depends on what an idle cpu is doing! I'm not sure about DOS, but many multitasking OSs have an loop like this loop: is there anything to do? YES -> do it; goto loop NO -> goto loop The CPU is not doing any work but it is still processing instructions... It will also respond to interupts... Guy

I just wanted to point out, that Teflon wasn't from the space program. It was from the WWII nuclear weapons development program. Pipes in the system for fractioning and enriching uranium had to be lined with it. Uranium Hexafloride was the chemical they turned the pitchblend into for enrichment. It is massively corrosive. Even to Stainless steels. Hence the need for a very inert substaance to line the pipes with. Teflon has all its molecular sockets bound up already, so it is very unreactive. My 2 sense worth.

Hello, I am admin for an RS/6000 running AIX 3.2, X11R5, Motif, and xdt3. I want to prevent the user from hitting CNTL-ALT-BKSPC to exit X. I've tried invoking X with 'xinit -T', but that doesn't work. xinit appends the -T to the call to .xinitrc, and not to the call to X. The man page to xinit is no help. In fact, it tells me that xinit is a script when it is really a binary file. So far, the only way I've been able to accomplish this feat is to add the -T to the call to X in /usr/lpp/X11/defaults/xserverrc. I would rather not do it this way. Does anyone have any other ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian DeFord Internet: [email protected] Open Networks, Inc. Usenet: uunet!netwrx1!deford 11490 Commerce Park Dr. #205 Tel: 703-648-0013 Reston, VA 22091 FAX: 703-648-0016

A while ago I saw some translucent pads, about 6"x8" or so that could be plugged into (something) and they would glow. One was red, another green, another blue. Interresting. I was wondering if anyone would have a feed on anything of this nature, and of the price. oh, the pads were rubber-like and were floppy like, about 1cm thick or so. Thanks. _________________________________________________ Inspiration | ___ | comes to | \ o [email protected] | those who | ( ^ ) [email protected] | seek the | /-\ =] Baden de Bari [= | unknown. | |

Did anyone install xdbx v2.1.2 on SGI workstation ? Thanks for your answer. Gildas PERROT.

-*---- Far from being "tossed out," the gospels are taken, almost universally, as the primary source of information about Jesus. I am curious as to whom Mike Cobb is referring. Who "tosses out" the New Testament? Undoubtedly a few *naive* atheists do this, but the phrasing of the question above seems to suggest that Cobb ascribes this more broadly. Perhaps the question that gets more to the heart of the matter is why, except for some *naive* believers (who, unfortunately, far outnumber nonbelievers, both naive and critical), are the gospels *not* taken as "gospel truth" that faithfully records just what happened two thousand years ago? This has an easy answer, and the answer has *nothing* to do with miracles: no text is taken this way by a critical reader. There is a myth among some naive believers that one takes a text, measures it by some set of criteria, and then either confirms the text as "historically valid" or "tosses out" the text. I suspect this myth comes from the way history is presented in primary and secondary school, where certain texts are vested with authority, and from writers such as Josh McDowell who pretend to present historical arguments along these lines for their religious program. In fact, most texts used in primary and secondary school history classes ought to be tossed out, even the better such texts should not be treated as authoritatively as descibed above, and Josh McDowell would not know a historical argument if it bit him on the keister twice. Let me present the barest outlines of a different view of texts and their use in studying history. First, all texts are historically valid. ALL texts. Or to put this another way, I have never seen a notion of "historical validity" that makes any sense when applied to a text. Second, no text should be read as telling the "gospel truth" about historical events, in the way that many students are wont to read history texts in primary and secondary school. NO text. (This includes your favorite author's history of whatever.) Every text is a historical fact. Every text was written by some person (or some group of people) for some purpose. Hence, every text can serve as historical evidence. The question is: what can we learn from a text? Of what interesting things (if any) does the text provide evidence? The diaries of the followers of the Maharishi, formerly of Oregon, are historical evidence. The gospels are historical evidence. The letters of the officers who participated in the vampire inquests in Eastern Europe are historical evidence. The modern American history textbooks that whitewash "great American figures" are historical evidence. These are all historical evidence of various things. They are *not* much evidence at all that the Maharishi, formerly of Oregon, could levitate; that Jesus was resurrected; that vampires exist; or that "great American figures" are as squeaky clean as we learned in school. They are better evidence that some people "saw" the Maharishi, late of Oregon, levitate; that some of the early Christians thought Jesus was resurrected; that many people in Eastern Europe "saw" vampires return from the grave; and that we still have an educational system that largely prefers to spread myth rather than teach history. How does one draw causal connections and infer what a piece of historical evidence -- text or otherwise -- evinces? This is a very complex question that has no easily summarized answer. There are many books on the subject or various parts of the subject. I enjoy David Hackett Fischer's "Historian's Fallacies" as a good antidote to the uncritical way in which it is so easy to read texts present history. It's relatively cheap. It's easy to read. Give it a try.

Well, it seems we don't learn the lessons of history do we? I was hoping that Kent State taught us a lesson. Apparently not. Apparently the government will murder anyone they choose to still. --- Rawlin Blake [email protected]

Well, I'm finally about to key in the official rules for the archives, but before I do, I will ask again... does anybody have the official MLB rules in electronic format? Just trying to save myself a ton of work...no, they don't scan well because of the ridiculous format they're printed in. thanks - Matt Matt Wall * [email protected] * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?

This would be susceptible to fading, multi-path etc. We used to use a system at the shop made by Tellurometer in South Africa. It used a 10 GHz signal between 2 units across the distance to be measured. The 10 GHz was just the carrier: the real signals were several switched ones around 7.5 MHz or so, whose relative phases at the receiver would read out the digits of the distance down to 10 cm if needed. The units came with psychrometers (sp?) to measure the relative humidity and instructions for correction of the measurements due to RH and temp. They were rather heavy and required an operator at each end. Current technology uses polarized reflectors, dual polaization TX/RX and psuedo-random coding of a radar pulse. about the same resolution at X band, much better at 47GHz. (Only one end is heavy :-) ). Regards, Stu Beal, VE3MWM, [email protected], National Water Research Institute, Burlington, Ontario, Canada.

In other words, the right of might. In other words, the right of might. In other words, he can do it, he did it, and your in no position to argue about it. In other words, you better do what this God wants you to do, or else!

Well, where is he? Another false Messiah shot down in flames. Matthew 24:4 "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ', and will deceive many." Matthew 24:23 "At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect - if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time." Do we listen? Sadly, not all of us do. Peace be with you, and condolences to the families of those lost at Waco. Malcolm Lee

Curiously enough, this subject has occupied a good bit of my prayer life recently. God's experience of time is so completely different from our own, since He is both within and without it. Using words like "foreknowledge" and "predestination" are semantically incorrect when it comes to describing God's perception of our action, because, for God, the beginning, living, and ending of our lives are all the same. Sort of. For God, there is no "before" when He did not know, so he could not have "foreknowledge" of our lives or a time when he could have "predestined" our actions. In fact, since our understanding of things is so tied to our linear experience of time, I would say that it is impossible for us to understand completely how our free will interacts with God's control of the universe.

My mother has been advised to have a bone scan performed? What is this procedure for, and is it painful? She's been having leg and back pain which her GP said was sciatica. Her oncologist listened to her symptoms and said that it didn't sound like sciatica, and she should get a bone scan.

But I have to agree.. Boston is a good team.. But streaky... They put together a great streak to capture first place in the Adams, but for what? They have lost the home ice advantage for at least the first round, and might not make it out of it. I would love to see the Sabres win the first round, even though I bet on the Bruins (a 12-pack). Oh well, perhaps I should start betting against the Sabres more often! ;-)

Does anyone here know where I can find a modem and comm. software for an Apple IIe? I would prefer in Manhattan, but New Jersey would work too. David Tillyer, [email protected]

Lets talk about principles. If we accept that God sets the standards for what ought to be included in Scripture - then we can ask: 1. Is it authoritative? 2. Is it prophetic? 3. Is it authentic? 4. Is it dynamic? 5. Is it received, collected, read and used? On these counts, the apocrapha falls short of the glory of God. To quote Unger's Bible Dictionary on the Apocrapha: 1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms. 2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with sacred Scripture. 3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling out of keeping with sacred Scripture. 4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and poetic and religious feeling. But the problem with this argument lies in the assumption that the Hebrew canon included the Apocrapha in the first place, and it wasn't until the sixteenth century that Luther and co. threw them out. The Jewish council you mentioned previously didn't accept them, so the reformation protestants had good historical precedence for their actions. Jerome only translated the apocrapha under protest, and it was literally 'over his dead body' that it was included in the catholic canon. How do you then view the words: "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from this book the prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city" (Rev 22.18-9) Surely this sets the standard and not just man-made traditions. It is also noteworthy to consider Jesus' attitude. He had no argument with the pharisees over any of the OT canon (John 10.31-6), and explained to his followers on the road to Emmaus that in the law, prophets and psalms which referred to him - the OT division of Scripture (Luke 24.44), as well as in Luke 11.51 taking Genesis to Chronicles (the jewish order - we would say Genesis to Malachi) as Scripture. I am not familiar with the book. Some other arguments you might like to consider are found in Chapter 3 of Josh McDowell's Evidence That Demands A Verdict.

Though I think this an overstatement, it does contain a grain of truth. It's drug dealers, spies, terrorists, and organized crime figures (assuming enough probable cause to convince a judge) who need to be watched, not law-abiding citizens. David

Yes, I have both Arts & Letters and CorelDraw. I personally like Arts & Letters better but there are things I like about Arts & Letters that CorelDraw doesn't do an vice-versa. I haven't found the perfect graphics program that does everything yet. My favorite feature from CorelDraw is that it imports alot of different formats. Arts & Letters does not. I like the thousands of clipart available with Arts & Letters. However, I do find looking them up in a book and referencing them by number to be annoying. One of my major problems is that there isn't any programs available on the market for the artistically deprived :-).

PhaNG, the Philadelphia Area NEXTSTEP User Group, will be holding a public sneak preview of NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors. Where: David Rittenhouse Labs Room A1 33rd And Walnut, southeast corner, Philadelphia PA When: Wednesday, May 5th 7 pm to 9 pm NEXTSTEP is the 32 bit UNIX based operating environment which has, until now, only been available on Motorola-based NeXT computers. In the May 11th issue of PC Magazine called NEXTSTEP a "Hot Prospect". Now, NeXT is nearing release of a version of NEXTSTEP which will run on 486-based PC's, yet is identical to the 68040 version. In fact, NEXTSTEP 3.1 includes the ability to easily compile a program into a single binary which will run on both Intel and Motorola hardware. NEXTSTEP 3.1 for Intel Processors will be demonstrated on an Epson Progression 486 computer. NEXTSTEP is scheduled for release on May 25 at NeXTWorld Expo in San Francisco. The demonstration will be open to the public. Come one come all! If you are interested in seeing the most advanced PC operating system around, come on by! For a brief summary of what NEXTSTEP offers, see the May 11th issue of PC Magazine, page 66. For more information, contact me: Jonathan Hendry PhaNG, the Philadelphia Area NEXTSTEP User Group 215-653-0911 [email protected] -- Jonathan W. Hendry Drexel University College Of Info. Studies [email protected] "The experience of programming Windows vs. the experience of programming NeXTStep is like going to the dentist and having a root canal without anaesthetic vs. going to the dentist and having your gums cleaned w/some nitrous-oxide thrown in for the entertainment side of things." [email protected] -- Jonathan W. Hendry Drexel University College Of Info. Studies [email protected]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ Benzene is most definitely a carcinogen. If you can get your hands on it * Don't use it! *

The May 1993 cover of QST has a picture of three different boards without any solder mask (you can tell from the copper colored traces). The box labeled 2304 transverter has the brown teflon/glass board, while the one in the center has the grayish board exposed. On the left is some fiberglass board that looks green to me. I see no reason for putting solder mask on circuit board used for box covers :-). I wonder if any manufacturer actually puts a solder mask on their low noise microwave preamps? Often, microwave circuits have odd bits of wire/foil/metal attached to wherever/whatever is necessary to make the unit work properly (this is a commercial product?). A solder mask would certainly make doing this tougher, never mind the finding something that minimally degrades the circuits. (Q dope for coils *does* not improve the Q--it just holds things together with minimal loss). Zack Lau KH6CP/1 Internet: [email protected] "Working" on 24 GHz SSB/CW gear Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW/SSB/FM US Mail: c/o ARRL Lab 80/40/20 CW 225 Main Street Station capability: QRP, 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz Newington CT 06111 modes: CW/SSB/FM/packet amtor/baudot Phone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541 Zack Lau KH6CP/1 Internet: [email protected] "Working" on 24 GHz SSB/CW gear Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW/SSB/FM US Mail: c/o ARRL Lab 80/40/20 CW 225 Main Street Station capability: QRP, 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz Newington CT 06111 modes: CW/SSB/FM/packet amtor/baudot Phone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541

[much blathering on the Role Of Military Forces in Enforcing Civil Law deleted] The main problem with trying to get the Military involved in Police work is the differences in the missions. The Police take names, try and find out what happened, stop suspects (thats the meaning of 'arrest') and turn them over to the custody of the Judicial Branch for the adjudication of their case. The Military's mission is to kill the enemy before they can escape or surrender. chus pyotr

I was privelged enough to experience my first Volvo attack this weekend. I was last in a line of traffic that was about 6 vehicles long, riding down Rt. 40 in Groton Ma. At the side of the road, sitting off on the shoulder was the killer Volvo in question. No brake lights, no turn signal, nothing. We were doing about 40 mph and I was following the cage in front of me about 2.5-3 sec. back. Well, as said cage passes the Volvo, the Brain Dead Idiot (tm) behind the wheel decides that she doesn't need to wait for me to pass also and turns out perpendicular across both lanes of traffic so that she can turn around... So I get on the brakes in a effort to not T-bone it, and the horn in an effort to wake the BDI up. As she finishes the turn, she looks up at me with a completely blank, uncomprehending stare. Where can I get rocket launchers for the VFR? Dean

It's gotta be an HBP.

I don't think I've changed my stance at all. My original stance was that a painless execution was not a cruel one. I didn't say what would be considered cruel, only that a painless death wasn't. Now, cruelty must involve some sort of suffering, I believe. I don't think someone that gets shot in the head or electrocuted really suffers very much. Even a hanging probably produces one sharp instance of pain, but it's over so quickly... Pardon? No. Well, again I stated that a painless death isn't cruel, but I don't think I stated that all painful executions *are* cruel. I think that some are cruel, depending on the nature and duration of the pain. Anything more than an instant, I guess. Any death by suffocation asphyxiation, or blood loss would be cruel, I think (this includes the gas chamber, and drawing and quartering). I'd say that any pain that lasts, say, over twenty seconds or so would be too long (but this may be an arbitrary cutoff, I suppose).

You know, I'm a Ford fan, I must say, so I'm looking forward to the next Mustang. I have faith that it will be a fine product, more desireable than the Camaro is now. You know, that's MHO. The differences these days between Ford and GM are not so much the quality, just the philosophy. It used to be quality _and_ philosophy. GM is barely catching up, but they have more room for improvement that can only be made up in time. STSs still come off the assembly line with screwed up paint stripes and poor trunk/door/hood/panel alignments; it's those 75 year old plants. And the latest GM products still come with the standard equipment RattleDash (tm). But like I said, they're getting better and making the move in the right direction. They beat Ford to the market with the Camaro/Firebird, but really only in words. Production of these vehicles will be limited until the end of the year, keeping selling prices above MSRP for the most part since there are so many twitching Camaro fans out there. I wouldn't press Ford to hurry the Mustang since the final wait could be worth it. Besides, no bow-tie fanatic is gonna buy the Mustang anyway. I do not put much stock in the mag rags' "inside" information, or even Ford rep quotes. The Taurus was pretty much a surprise when it was finally disclosed in it's entirety. "Inside" information had the Taurus with a V8 and rear-wheel drive at one point. I wouldn't look for a simple re-paneled Mustang, folks; you may be cheating yourself if you do. There's a lot of potential. Ford hasn't released a new car without a 4-wheel IS in 7 years. The Mustang project has been brewing for at least 4, right? A 4-wheel IS could happen. Those modular V8's are out there, too. In the interest of CAFE and competition, don't rule those out, either. Your ignorant if you do. And there are so many spy shots and artist renderings out there, who really knows what it'll look like? The Mach III? Doubt it. Highly. The next Mustang will be Ford's highest profile car. It attracts way more attention than the Camaro/Firebird because it's heritage is more embedded in the general public. Don't lie to yourself and believe Ford will forfeit that. I submit that the Mustang will be a success. Enough to elicit defensive remarks from some heavy Camaro fans here. You know, intelligent, critical spews like, "The Mustang bites, man!" Some of you are already beginning. I predict that the Mustang and Camaro will be comparable performers, as usual. I predict that the differences will be in subjective areas like looks and feel, as usual. The Camaro is still a huge automobile; the Mustang will retain its cab-rearward styling and short, pony-car wheelbase. The Camaro still reaches out to the fighter pilot, while the Mustang will appeal to the driver. The Camaro will still sell to the muscle car set, while the Mustang will continue to sell to the college-degreed muscle car set. Both will be more refined (I do think the Camaro is). There will be no clear winner. Unless the Ford gets the 32v, 300hp Romeo. You don't seriously believe that it was designed for the Mark VIII only, do you? :^) Regards, Brian [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am the engineer, I can choose K.

I've been wondering about this myself. The house wiring thing is really hokey. There is no doubt that high pressure ultrasound is annoying, but to whom? Given that these devices have been advertised to be effective against everything from insects to rodents to nasty dogs, what is to say that my insect repeller won't just annnoy my dog and give me headaches? Could there be that much selectivity in frequencies? Have there been ANY studies on the effects of various pressure levels, bands, and sweep patterns on various life forms? And how effective could they be? I certainly would not want to tell anyone that they are safe from nasty dogs because they were carrying a piezoelectric buzzer...

OFFICIAL UNITED NATIONS SOUVENIR FOLDERS Each contains all the stamps issued for that year along with descriptive information regarding each issue. The stamps are mint never hinged. The RETAIL (not catalog) prices listed are from the leading United Nations dealer, Mike Armus. The stamps were issued for use by the U.N. offices in New York and Geneva Switzerland. Price: TAKE 50% the current retail price for any folder. Take 10 or more folders take 60% OFF the total. Take all 32 folders take 65% off the total. In many cases these folders are priced at or below the face value of the stamps, particularly the Geneva ones. YEAR New York Geneva ---- -------- ------ 1963 $9.75 1964 $4.50 1965 $5.95 1966 $2.75 1967 $2.75 1968 $5.95 1969 $2.45 $7.50 1970 $2.75 $8.95 1971 $2.75 $5.50 1972 $3.75 $6.35 1973 $2.75 $4.95 1974 $3.75 $5.75 1975 $3.45 $6.75 1976 $7.45 $7.35 1977 $3.50 $5.45 1978 $4.50 $5.35 1979 $4.15 $5.25 1980 $4.25 $4.75 1981 $4.85 $4.50 Shipping: Add 25 cents per folder to cover actual first class shipping cost. Foreign orders, I will charge the actual shipping cost (airmail), let me know how many folders you want.

Anyone have a phone number for Applied Engineering so I can give them a call?

Supernovae put out 10^53 or 10^54 (i forget which, but it's only an order of magnitude...). Not in gamma rays, though. You'd hafta get all of that into gammas if they were at 9 Mpc, but if a decent fraction of the SN output was in gammas it could reasonably be extragalactic (but closer than 9 Mpc). I dunno SN theory so well, but I can't think of how to get many gammas out. Maybe I should look it up. Big radio galaxies can put out 10^46 erg/s *continually*. That's just in the radio... there are a lot of gammas around them, too, but "bursts"? Nah. Neither of these should be taken as explanations... just trying to show that those energies *are* produced by things we know about.

Yes, but still not a 6502 for those differences. Same instruction set, of course. Yes, the same number, but an entirely different device. I should have qualified this further by stating that this was the PAL version of the TIA - I am not 100% sure that the NTSC TIA would have a different number. Does anyone on the net actually have details of the TIA, as this is the only device I have not yet discovered details about? Atari Australia, when asked, claimed that their attempts to get the programmers documentation for the 2600 had failed, as the US head office had refused to provide it. I saw a couple of cheaper devices with PN2222's and a couple of resistors hooked up as a cheap inverter. Nasty, but workable, and cheaper than a 7404 inverter if labor costs almost nothing.

Only problem is that Zombo was traded to St. Louis last year for goalie Vincent Riendeau. I think that while Chevy is not among the elite class of goalies, he is adequate given the offensive firepower of the Wings.

FOR SALE PC TOOLS VERSION 7.1 All original disks and manuals included. $50 or best offer Please send replies to [email protected]

I'd like to hear stories on experiences with the Hyundai Sonata. I know Consumer Reports has trashed them but the people I know that have them swear by them. They also haven't had the problems with them that Consumer Reports claims. I haven't driven one yet. I have driven a '93 Hyundai Elantra (which Consumer Reports also trashed) and was very impressed with it. The local Hyundai dealership ("no-haggle" policy) is offering an Elantra GLS w/ power moonroof for $13163. They also have a Sonata base, w/ Sunroof for $13997. I know my preference is for a Sonata GLS w/ sunroof and 4-spd automatic. I'll decide which engine I prefer after test driving both the 4-cyl and the V6. The Sonata is also offering a $1500 rebate. Hmmm, that's another question. Is the following scenario the appropriate manner to handle "negotiation"? 1. make offer 2. subtract rebate from offer 3. talk trade 4. subtract trade from offer to get final price

Whatever happened to uwm? Is it still available in some form? It's been years since I used it or heard anyone talk about it. --

Michael J. Fox was on Letterman about a year ago (or two) during the playoffs as a celebrity hockey player for the Bruins. While he's not exactly a NHLer he did mention that the Bruins wanted to break Ulfie's legs (or something like that) in response to the Neely incident. It was quite amusing, as one of the few Letterman viewers who actually knew what he was talking about. Anybody know who the Pens celebrity hockey player is? Michael Douglas (aka Michael Keaton)?

[some deleted] One thing that seems ambiguous is whether a signal being echoed down from geosynchronous orbit is "...from outside the United States." Also, being able to assess whether NSA is playing by the rules requires knowing what the rules are. We only know a subset. For those even more suspicious, there could be other surveillance organizations "blacker" than the NSA.

Dream machine quality ain't what it used to be Kinetic Art did some great paint jobs on Bimotas. Don't know if they are still around.

I was just wondering if anyone new how I could get the BETA version of Windows NT, and be part of the BETA program. Thanks [email protected]

I really think you are comparing apples and oranges. Nobody disputes that OS/2 has more big OS features. The question is Does an individual need the power. The sales of Windows vs OS/2 answer that question. The next question is even if I did want to run OS/2 and I had this big monster machine to run it on, is there a diverse set of applications to run on it that allow me to productviely do my work. Go to your local computer store to answer this one. I think the comparison you need to be doing is NT vs OS2/2.1. This is where the new battle lines will be drawn. Windows 3.1 has won the single user PC war the next one will be the client server war and the entries are NT, OS2/2.1, UNIX and Netware 4.0. Granted these OS's will be eventually scaled down to be attractive to the single user PC and that will probably be phase II' of the war. Who wins only the marketplace will tell but it sure is fun watching and arguing about it tho. Thx Dave L

Many thanks for the replies I received to this. A couple of people suggested how I could get the paint package to work properly, but in the end I took the advice of someone else to try Paintshop Pro from cica.indiana.edu. Thanks again. --Philip

From article <[email protected]>, by [email protected]: Hmmm... Atlantis left Eureca in a 28 degree orbit. Retrieving it is going to be *REALLY* fun if they fly to 57 degrees. Torque that Canadarm! :-)

I remember a simple program that would play those chimes for you when you clicked their respective buttons. Does anyone know where that is? This was circa 1988, I think. Cheers, -e.

Another name for this region is Cis-Jordan.

# # >> I am not aware of any such incidents. # > # > # >> I've read most of the history books dealing with this period, # >> good and bad, and while it is possible that I missed one or two, # >> none of those I've read documents any razing of mosques. So I # >> think that this remarkable claim requires specific documentation. # > # >For the forgetful newcomers, here are the references. # > # >The reference I based my posting on originally is the book "The West # >Bank Story", by Rafik Halabi (New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich # >1982. Original title: Die Westbank Story). # > # >Quoting from The West Bank Story, pages 35-36: # >"On the night of June 10, an Israeli officer marched from door to door # >through the Moghrabi Quarter [of East Jerusalem] giving the residents # >three hours' notice to evacuate their homes. # > # >... [The participants in a # >July 24, 1967 meeting of a group of Arab relgious and political # >figures] protested the immodest dress of Israelis visiting the mosques # >and the destruction of two mosques in the Moghrabi Quarter adjacent to # >the Western Wall." # # This issue has been going on for a while and your presentation here of # just one reference probably won't resolve this issue to those that # oppose your insistence that mosques *were* destroyed. Even in your # location of this one reference, you spend most of your quote dealing # with an incidence that, while abhorrant, has nothing to do with the # issue at hand here. Then, at the end of the quote, there is an almost # off-hand comment that "two mosques" were destroyed. Tim, you're missing the big sleight-of-hand here. I can accept every word quoted from Halabi and still have ZERO evidence of any mosques being razed. Note that what Halabi refers to is not that mosques were razed but that people PROTESTED alleged razing. Too well we know that this is a common demagogic tactic (or has anyone forgotten the Temple Mount riots, when the Moslem crowd was led to believe that the Israeli Guards were there to cover for the TMF instead of stop them?)

>I wouldn't think so. Asking people to trust a secret algorithm seems >unsound to me. Maybe so, but it's quite common. There are millions of Macintosh users who have no idea what's in Apple's patented ROMs. Many have modems connected. How do you know all your business secrets aren't being stolen? Answer: 1. Because you trust Apple; 2. Because if any such attempt, however sophicsticated, came out, it would destroy Apple's credibility forever. Then there's also 3) Because it's NOT SECRET. If I want to, I CAN go look at Apple's copyrighted ROMs in a Mac, so they're not keeping any secrets. You don't even have to pry the top off the chip and use an electron microscope, you just have to read the data in memory and see if you can figure out what it means. (Motorola object code isn't all *that* obscure!) Yes, it's copyrighted, so I can't go selling copies, or using the copy myself, but I CAN see it, and disassemble it. 4) They're not asking me to trust their honesty. They're asking me to trust the quality of their assembly language programming :-), but I can see for myself what the performance, price, and crashes/day are. NSA, an organization not known for its honesty or openness, is asking me to trust them with my privacy, but they won't trust me. Feh!

Markus> NNTP-Posting-Host: samos.uni-paderborn.de Markus> Hello everybody out there ! Markus> I'm trying to compile X11R5pl23 and Motif 1.2.1 on a HP running Markus> HP-UX 8.05. But it' seems to be not very succesful, because Markus> I have only hp.cf config-files for HP-UX 7.0. Markus> I tried standard cc and X was compiled with a lot of warnings. Markus> The motif applications are compiled quite well, but they won't run. Markus> I receive the XKeysymDB error which is reported in FAQ, but Markus> I cannot fix it. The XKeysymDB-file is at the right location and it Markus> works fine under SunOS. Markus> Probably I have started the compilation Prozess only with a wrong Markus> config-file. Markus> Please help me ! Markus> Markus> Thanx in advance Markus> Markus If you installed X lib Xt by redefining ProjectRoot, you will find that during the install it recompiles one of the files in X lib that does the search for XKeysmDB and embeds the search path for the file based on whatever ProjectRoot was defined. TO confirm this what happened, because I'm guessing, go to mit/lib/X and do strings XStrKeySym.o | egrep XKeysymDB

I know the roads up there in Minnesota are pretty bad, but I doubt that they are THAT bad. I've never realy tried to watch my back tyre but, my 82 Maxim 750 will pull the front wheel off the ground if I pop the clutch. Admittedly, it is easier with someone on back, maybe that's what keeps the rear tyre down. ;-)

Here's a summary of Don Cherry's Coach's Corner from April 23, 1993. It was taken from a tape delay of a Vancouver-Winnipeg game, but it was filmed during the Toronto-Detroit game that night. I think it was also shown during the Calgary-LA game. (Warning... Anti-fighting people may want to skip this post.) Topics ------ Don's Tie, Doug Gilmour, Wings/Leafs, Quebec/Montreal, Boston/Buffalo, Wendel Clark, Fighting and Stickwork. Episode Summary --------------- Once again, the episode started with a shot of Don's tie... This was a different tie than last time. Don pointed out some of the characters on the tie, but gave them different names... Felix the Cat (Sylverster), Maclean (Daffy Duck), etc. Ron Maclean asked Don what he thought of the current Wings-Leafs game. Don thought it was good. Burns told the Leaf players "They won in their building, we're going to win in ours". Don then began to praise Gilmour again. Don pointed out that Gilmour has never got less than 2 points or a goal in any game since he got 5 points in a game against St. Louis. (Don also claims that he gave a lot of encouragement to Gilmour, which was partly responsible for his good play.) Several clips were then shown of Gilmour from the series... A hit on Constantinov, and a pass to Andrewchuk resulting in a goal. On the game itself, the Wings were taking a lot of penalties in the first period. The Wings have enough talent to score short handed however, and when the Leafs get a power play, Coach Burns tells the Leaf players "Don't let them score on you". Ron brought up the previous Quebec-Montreal game. [Note: Montreal won that game in overtime, despite having a possible game winner disqualified because it was batted in with a high stick.] Don thought the high stick was obvious, even without the use of instant replay. On the Buffalo-Boston series [Note: Buffalo is currently winning the series 3-0], Don gave full credit to Goaltender Grant Fuhr. Fuhr should be getting 1/2 the team's playoff checks for his play. Wendel Clarke has recently been criticized for his performance during the Detroit-Toronto series. Don defended him, by saying that he can't play the way he should, because of the league's new rules. "This used to be a rough and tough league... Now its all hack and slash." Don lays the blame on Gil Stien for the problems. Don's opinions on fighting and stickwork are shared by Wings GM and coach Bryan Murray. A clip from a news conference by Murray was shown, in which Murray made statements claiming the elimination of fighting increases stickwork. Don also read a newspaper article in which Murray makes the following statements: "Players don't fight because they're afraid of getting thrown out of the game as instigator. Instead, they settle grudges by getting their sticks and slicing each other. Is this what the fans want to see? I guarantee there wouldn't be as many slashes if fighting were kept in the game." Don warned league commisioner Gary Bettman to "smarten up" with fighting in hockey. He went on to say that before, there used to be one guy cut with a high stick in a series. Now, with no fights, someone gets cut every period. Rating ------ Typical anti-fighting posturing, but here Don's opinion is supported by Murray.

Anyone claiming that 1500 "real watts" isn't possible in a mobile should dig through their back issues of 73 (and, I think, QST) for a description of the mobile installation of that most revered of OMs, W6AM. As I recall, this included a Heath 1kW (DC in) amp (what was that model number...SB- something.... my mind is turning to the usual Friday mush...) and was run full-out CW fairly regulary. The car's electrical system had been modified, including a rather seriously-heavy-duty alternator, but such an installation HAS been done, and so IS possible. This installation was the source of the legendary story of W6AM sitting in the car, and paging his wife over the department store PA systems!

[ 2 good reasons deleted. AI] It's even worse than that -- "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it" (Deut. 4:2). Shall we rip out every page from our Bibles beginning from Joshua through Revelation?

Imagine, you have been under seige for almost two months by an enemy which you believe wants to kill you. Suddenly, they pump tear gas into your building and punch holes in it with tanks. Then a fire breaks out. Do you run outside to be slaughtered, or stay and face your fate. Check Ethiopia vs. Italy in WWII for some answers to that question.

Did anyone see the Montreal - Quebec game yesterday? It was tight right down to the last second of the third period. In the overtime Roy and Hextall played like they were gods. Ok, so Montreal won! They deserved it after getting their first goal in overtime waved off because the puck was hit in with a high stick. Their second goal in overtime was also replayed, but I could not tell if it was the Montreal player who kicked it in. The puck definitely was not directed in by a stick. Anyways, Montreal is back into the series.

WHY!!! DC/Baltimore is one of the top media markets (=the only thing the NHL seems to care about these days), they've been doing far better than the NBA Bullets at the gate for the last five years. The team has been a perennial contender and fan support has been good to excellent . . . Why should Pollin move to city that's five times smaller but has as many teams in other pro sports. I don't get it...

Either I've just fallen for this, or you guys are _really_ paranoid! You're actually worried about somebody stealing your oil? C'mon, you think a vandal'll do that?! That's absolutely ridiculous! Besides, how hard is it to get under the car to change the oil? I can say from experience on the cars that I've driven and changed the oil on, my Mazda 323 is pretty much a pain, but once you've done it once, you don't forget how, and it gets easier. I can't imagine any other cars are much worse than mine.

We're looking at various X11 clients for PC's and we're looking for some information about the relative efficiency of different products. Are any notably efficient (fast)? Are any notably inefficient? I assume that a Graphics Accelerator makes them significantly faster (right now I'm looking at ico running on Xoftware/32 for Windows sitting on the Distinct TCP/IP platform, and it's (not surprisingly) much slower than ico running on the Sparc10's console. What are the key ways of improving performance for PC (presumably Windows) clients? Also, what about async solutions? (Yes, I appreciate that it will be *much* slower even with V.42bis.) I'm in the process of installing PPP (with header compression). How does that compare to cslip? I've seen a product called XRemote by NCD that promises to be pretty efficient, but are there comparable products out there? If we're looking for efficiency for async, PC clients, what should we be looking at in addition to standard PPP w/ compression and XRemote? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I'm still taking in all the information in the faq, but any tips about the relative efficiency of various product offerings would be great. (I get the impression that discussions about speed are largely application specific, but that not withstanding, any comments would be appreciated.) Thanks. -- Rob

Jung may have said that, but he was in no way speaking for the Catholic Church. The dogma of the Assumption in no way means Mary is considered to be God or part of "the Godhead." Therefore it implies no such thing about the feminine in general. Also Jung's statement makes it sound as though the dogma was announced "out of the blue." This also is incorrect, as dogma is only the formulation of what has always been part of Tradition. This dogma has always been believed, but was not formally defined until the Assumption was declared as an _ex cathedra_ statement.

I got several answers, the most complete was from Errol Crary ([email protected]): Thanks for your help Karsten --

I believe the interstates were origionally funded as part of a national defense plan etc. The requirements were to move heavy army trucks at 70mph. Still its amazing in Germany you can have cars traveling 155 mph and 65 mph on the same 3 to 4 lane road. Around Washington DC they can't keep traffic flowing at 55.

Primarily milage. Gas is much more expensive, so people are very concerned about it taking a few more liters per kilometer. This, along with narrow old cities, also results in smaller cars with smaller engines. These engines usually don't have the torque to mesh well with an automatic. So, having engines that don't work well with autos, and a great concern for milage, the usual Euro-car has a manual. (Note that not many big Benzes come with manuals. If you've got the money for the car, you've got the money for the gas, and the engine to drive through the slushbox.) As automatics become more efficient, the "bigotry" is probably reduced. Still, everyone knows how to drive a manual, and cars are cheaper with one, and it saves a little expensive fuel. So there aren't compelling reasons to go automatic. -dB

There are various contradictory views on the origin of the Armenians. The name is to be found in the Darian inscriptions in the form 'Armina' or 'Aramaniya' is to be found in the inscription on the Bistun monument. The following references to the Armenians are to be found in the Bistun cuneiform inscription of Dara Vishdasb (510 B.C.). 6. On reaching Arminam 'Armeniya'. 7. To the country town of Zozo, to Armaniya 'Armeniya'. According to Karakashian: As for 'Armenia', the equivalent of the 'Armin' or 'Arminik' of the Persians, this is more recent than the word 'Ararat', and is to be found used in the Dara inscriptions for 'Haiastan'. Saint Martin: The name 'Armenie' has been given since very early times by almost all the various eastern peoples to the territory referred to by the Armenians as 'Haiastan'. It was known to the Syrians as Armenia and to the Arabs as Ermeniyye. Others believe that Urartu was known in the time of the Medes as 'Harminap' which was later modified by the Persians to 'Arminia'. 'Ar' refers to a place, as in Ararat, Archish, Aruyr, Archar, Arshav, Arazen and Aror, while 'men' is used to refer to spirit, thought or human being, and therefore 'Armen' would appear to signify 'the people of that place'. G. Alishan believes that 'according to our national vocabulary "Haik" is the diminutive form of "Hai", and that "Hai" is the name of our nation. Our nation is in no way connected with the word "Armen" that foreigners apply to our people.' It would thus appear that 'Armenia' is a place-name, that 'Armen' is the name of the people who lived there, and that these are in no way connected with the word 'Hai'. Haik and Haiastan: Armenian historians believe Haik to have been a great hero from whom the Armenian people took the name 'Hai'. But the mere resemblance between the words 'Haik' and 'Hai' constitutes no real proof, and, in any case, no such theory appears before the time of Moses of Khoren. Haiasa: The following studies show quite clearly that 'Hai' and 'Haiasa' were no more than general names used by the Hittites to refer to the region known as Armenia. Professor Hachadurian: 'Haiasa was the general name used in Hittite inscriptions for Upper Armenia.' Yensen, in his 'Hittites and Armenians' tries to prove that 'Hai' is identical with the Hittite 'Hatio', in other words that 'Hai' is a Hittite word. Research, however, has proved this erroneous, and shown that 'Hai' was derived from 'Hatio'. Mortman's attempt to read the Urartu inscriptions as Armenian met with no success. As for Greek, there is no point in even mentioning it. The resemblance between the words 'Haiasa' and 'Haiastan' is so obvious that we may well accept 'Haiasa' as the oldest form of 'Haiastan'. Let us now cast a brief glance on how the words 'Hai', 'Haikazan' and 'Haiastan' entered our older works. According to Karakashian: 'The word "Haik" is never to be found employed with reference to a leader of the Armenian people prior to Moses of Khoren, nor is it ever found employed in the forms "Haika" or "Haykazn". Agahangelos and Puzant use the word as a title or a place-name (he improved and developed Haiastan, etc.). If the word had referred to a nation and had been derived from "Hai" or "Haik" they could also have used the words "Haikak" and "Haykazn" in a number of places.' According to Professor Sayce, who deciphered a number of Hittite inscriptions: 'In the Hittite language the suffix -ha is used to specify quality or species. The words "Haddanas", "Haddina" were used by the Assyrians to refer to the Hittites. With the transformation of the "d" between the two "a" letters to "y" "Hadinasdani" was in this way transformed to "Haiastan"'. Professor Grechmer fully agrees with this point of view, but regards the significance and explanation so far accorded to the terms 'Hai' and 'Haistan' as quite unsatisfactory. He finds, however, that a solution to this problem is brought nearer by the name 'Haiasa' which is so frequently found in Bogazkoy from 1400 B.C. onwards. Forrer takes 'Haiasa' as referring to Upper Armenia. In that case it seems likely that 'Haiasa' was actually a part of Armenia. The suffix -dan is of Anatolian origin. The real root is 'Hayasa', which refers to the country of the 'Hayasas'. E. Chantre writes as follows on the subject of the ethnological and Anthropological characteristics of the Armenian people. The Armenians in Russia may be characterized as follows: Almost all of them are brachycephalic or leptocephalic, very dark, above average height, an Aissores Asian group with close ties with certain Kurdish tribes and Azerbaijan peoples. According to J. Deniker: From the philological point of view, the Armenian and Kurds may be regarded as belonging to the Iranian group...The Armenians are descended from various elements and from a very mixed race. Their average height varies between 1.63 and 1.69 according to the region. They are almost always short-headed, with skull measurements of 85-87. As a race they belong to the Indo-Afghan-Assyrian-Turkic family. Professor Rene Vernont writes as follows: The Armenians are a mixture of Semites, Turk, Kurds and Mongols, but some of them display Armenian features, e.g., height a little above average, fair complexion, dark hair, dark eyes, very often a hooked nose and a rather wide mouth. Investigations carried out by N. Kossovitch on the links between Armenian blood groups and their anthropological characteristics led him to the conclusion that the Armenians did not form a distinct race. Serdar Argic

< <>OW 3.0 is the same. But, the definition of broken is relative. Pageview <>requires DSC compliant PostScript files, in order to stop at page breaks. <>I don't consider that broken. I say that any program that puts out a <>PostScript file that isn't DSC compliant is broken. < <Well that may be true. However, the man page for pageview for OW 2.0 <does not mention about DSC compliance. In any event, the point here <is that if you try to display some PS files using pageview you will <find out that it's not a practical tool. It is true that the man page for pageview does not say that the files need to be DSC compliant. That is the fault of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing at Sun. I was informed by a Sun employee that the pageview program does require DSC compliant PostScript. There was the possibility that it was going to be changed so that if the file wasn't DSC compliant that it would stop at each showpage. I believe that this method would preclude being able to go backwards and forwards through the file, i.e., you could only go forward to the next showpage. This isn't in OW3.0 pageview, but maybe it is in the Solaris 2.x version of OW (OW 3.1?). In any event, I find pageview extremely useful. Since all of the PostScript that I produce IS DSC compliant, I don't have any problems.

I agree! Rob Shick sucks big time. He did the same thing last night's game between Boston & Buffalo.

No, the thing is designed to be retrievable, in a pinch. Indeed, this dictated a rather odd design for the solar arrays, since they had to be retractable as well as extendable, and may thus have indirectly contributed to the array-flapping problems. The retrieval problems are exactly as stated: it would be costly, would involve extensive downtime (and the worry of someone finding a reason not to re-launch it), and would unnecessarily expose the telescope to a lot of mechanical stresses and possibilities for contamination.

In the Boston area, you can hear the Rangers on WFAN and the Devils on WABC, the Whalers on WTIC and the Red Wings on WJR. This of course is in addition to the Bruins who are currently on WEEI but may move to WHDH because the fools at WEEI are owned by the Celtics and thus will show them over the Bruins every time there is a conflict. You can also get WBAL Baltimore but I don't think they have hockey. BTW, I once got a station from Indiana that had Fort Wayne Comets games.

Hi everyone, I'm experiencing a very annoying problem with background printing on the HP Deskwriter (Sys 7.1, Deskwriter driver 3.1, PowerBook 170). When I print from, say, MS Word, I see the message "Spooling to disk," but sometimes nothing prints. Checking my memory map thanks to Now Menus, I see that HP Backgrounder has not loaded. Restarting fixes this. It seems to me that HP Backgrounder is quitting unexpectedly, and that its status as "Multifinder NOT aware" allows it to do this without my being informed by a message such as "HP Backgrounder quit unexpectedly." Have you ever seen this problem before. There may or may not be a related problem. I have experienced problems in putting my computer to sleep. Choosing "sleep" from the Finder menu sometimes does nothing. Today on a whim I checked the memory map, and I discovered that HP backgrounder was not loaded. Restarted reloaded HP backgrounder, and I was able to put my machine to sleep as usual. Just a mere coincidence or is the HP backgrounder crash preventing my machine from going to sleep? Has anyone seen this problem? I'm seriously considering the purchase of a StylewriterII because of the poor quality of the HP software.

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The problem is that you imagine him inside this huge wall, unable to see reality. While he imagines the same about you. Clearly we have a case where relativity plays a big role concerning looking at opposite frames of reality. Cheers, Kent

And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it.

joe, i'm sorry you felt i was pissing on your list. no disparagement was intended and i would be most interested to know what i said that made you feel that way. i am not suggesting that your list is superflous nor that it will not serve a need. i just would like not to see the boxer contingent split, but there is certainly enough net for more than one list. -- -- bob pasker -- [email protected]

: : Hello, : Just one quick question: : My father has had a back problem for a long time and doctors : have diagnosed an operation is needed. Since he lives down in : Mexico, he wants to know if there is a hospital anywhere in : the United States particulary famous for this kind of surgery, : kind of like Houston has a reputation for excellent doctors : in eye surgery. Any additional info or pointers will be : appreciated a whole lot!... There is one hospital that is here in New York City that is famous for its orthopedists, namely the Hospital for Special Surgery. They are located on the upper east side of manhattan. If you want their address and phone let me know, i'll get them, i dont know them off hand.

Here in Australia most cars are manual (privately owned anyway). Why? Not sure, I think it has something to do with the fact that our car industry in the past was more closely aligned with Europe than the US in the past. Now it's aligned with Asia. Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [[email protected]] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v Joy is a Jaguar XJ6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic wife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning.

Actually Judea and Samaria are proper geographical names, just like Asia Minor or Lake Michigan. Judea and Samaria are even used in an atlas published in (what used to be) USSR circa 1970 that I have at home. The government of the USSR was of course quite hostile towards Israel and would hardly engage in a pro-Israel propaganda. I would be willing to mail a photocopy of the relevant page to Mr. Schmidling with relevant words underlined to simplify his search, if he promises to report to the net afterwards. Mr. Schmidling is to be congtatualted for being living exception to this general rule. For although he is almost without peer in both the number of lies posted and in the number of times he repeats them --- he hasn't found many people who believe his lies (yet ?).

Astronomy & Space magazine's UK telephone newsline carries the times to see the Russian Space Station Mir which will be visible every EVENING (some time between 9 o'clock and midnight) from April 27 to May 7. It's about as bright as Jupiter at its best. There are two cosmonuats on board. For the time to watch, tel. 0891-88-19-50 (48p/min peak 36p/min all other times, but prediction is at start of the weekly message so it only costs a few pence). E-mail reports of sightings would be appreciated: give lat/long and UT (a few seconds accuracy if possible) when it passes ABOVE or BELOW any bright star (say brighter than mag. 3), planet or Moon. With Moon in evening sky also, note that from somewhere in U.K. Mir will pass in front of the Moon each night! Please alert local clubs to the telephone newsline, and general public as Mir can cause quite a stir! -Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from: Astronomy Ireland, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland. 6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20 surface (add US$8 airmail). ACCESS/VISA/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiration date, name&address).

: THe limit on space-walking is a function of suit supplies (MASS) : and Orbiter Duration. : In order to perform the re-boost of the HST, the OMS engines : will be fired for a long period. Now the shuttle is a heavy : thing. THe HST isn't light either. THe amount of OMS fuel : needed to fly both up is substantial. a small booster : carried up and used to boost HST on it's own will weigh significantly : less then the OMS fuel required to Boost both HST and SHUttle, : for a given orbital change. : From what i understand, the mass margins on the HST missions are : tight enough they can't even carry extra Suits or MMU's. : pat I haven't seen any specifics on the HST repair mission, but I can't see why the mass margins are tight. What are they carrying up? Replacement components (WFPC II, COSTAR, gyros, solar panels, and probably a few others), all sorts of tools, EVA equipment, and as much OMS fuel and consumables as they can. This should be lighter than the original HST deployment mission, which achieved the highest altitude for a shuttle mission to date. And HST is now in a lower orbit. Seems like the limiting factors would be crew fatigue and mission complexity.

The 200CD is one of three oscillators that HP made many years ago. (The others were the Low Frequency Oscillator and the Wide Range Oscillator.) These are the ones with the 7" diameter chrome dial, a Wein Bridge circuit that used pilot lights as the feedback loop, and firebottles that produced many volts of output. I've just acquired a pair of these venerable old beasts. The non-working one, SN 605, (owned by Crosley Radio at one point!) needs help. I know I can likely buy a microfiche copy of the book from HP, but that costs.... and considering I paid a dollar for the pair in the rain at the Dayton Hamvention;-}

There's nothing wrong with a red neck. Why, some of us hicks even listen to cultured music and such, can you say the same? Aside from that, you shouldn't try to shit on this guy by insulting where YOU think he comes from. Where I'm from, we milk cows, drive trucks, and yes, even like baseball. So screw anyone that doesn't like it. Oh yeah, learn the difference between to and too city-boy! (see below) -thom unnumbered wanna-be member of the Bob Knepper Fan Club (BKFC)

Bob, sex is already ALL OVER baseball! Do you think those uniforms can get ANY TIGHTER?? Todd Hundley's could be, I suppose; he seems to favor the Carlton Fisk baggy-pants style. Very unfortunate. Todd, word to the wise: if ya got it, flaunt it!

Lets see... what MS products don't have major bugs in them? Oh, but the fifth release the bugs are generally cleared up, even if their customers must buy new "releases" from them that are little more than bug fixes. Anyone who buys a $2500 computer system and then runs MS Windows on it is in desperate need of sympathy. Oh wait! MS innovated the plastic housing on the MS mouse---didn't they? "Logitech Inside" You can't even really call it secondary creativity when a company gathers together a bunch of knock-off packages and peddles them to neophytes. If MS does anything, it appears someone has to do it first. It appears that MS is finding out that throwing money at technological problems is by no means a guaranteed solution. ---------------------------------------------

Let's discuss Reno's taking full responciblity. Is everyone happy with the outcome? Did the FBI pursue the correct course of action? was justice done? If Reno really meant what she said she would resign! She is just grand standing, period. What did those people do wrong in the first place? that is what i can't figure out. sure they were crazy, no dought about it, but what did they do wrong? someone please help me out on this.

I don't think the two main free X systems ( XS3 and XFree86 ) are part of the FSF as such. Does anyone know of an e-mail address for Diamond to which Penio could forward his purchase information? Guy

:When I was a school boy, my biology teacher told us of an incident :in which a couple were very passionate without actually having :sexual intercourse. Somehow the girl became pregnent as sperm :cells made their way to her through the clothes via persperation. : :Was my biology teacher misinforming us, or do such incidents actually :occur? Sounds to me like someone was pulling your leg. There is only one way for pregnancy to occur: intercourse. These days however there is also artificial insemination and implantation techniques, but we're speaking of "natural" acts here. It is possible for pregnancy to occur if semen is deposited just outside of the vagina (i.e. coitus interruptus), but that's about at far as you can get. Through clothes -- no way. Better go talk to your biology teacher.

For sale: Mac IIfx with the following config --> 20MB's RAM 400MB 3.5" Hard Drive 2 -1.44MB floppy drives Extended keyboard Mouse Apple 8bit video card $2,500.00 or best offer! All you need is a monitor to complete this system.

Hi there, I'm looking for tools that can make X programming easy. I would like to have a tool that will enable to create X motif GUI Interactivly. Currently I'm Working on a SGI with forms. A package that enables to create GUI with no coding at all (but the callbacks). Any help will be appreciated.

Actually, the Quadra 900 and 950 both have the same SCSI controller, (running at different speed). They are not SCSI 2, but can support certain SCSI commands that take advantage of faster drives. The I/O processors are present on both machines. The Q950 runs its I/O bus at 25MHz, while the 900's I/O bus is 16MHz. The Quadra 950 supports 16bit color on all monitor sizes, as well as 24bit up to 832 x 624 resolution. It also supports 1024 x768 resolution. The 900 supports supports 8bit at 1152 x 870, and does not support 1024 x 768 at all. VRAM on the 950 is 80ns or faster, and 100ns or faster on the 900.

Bzzt. Thank you for playing. You're confusing the puritans/pilgrims with the founding fathers. Difference of ~150 years and a much different culture...

I have been looking over the postings about the Clipper Chip and noticed an interesting omission from the discussion. You all mention that the algorithm is classified and have expressed concerns and ideas of how to figure out the algorithm using software. The question that I have is why cant someone take one of these chips and reverse engineer it? I mean, take the thing to a chip testing/ analysis facility, one with a decent electron microscope. Just pry off the top of the chip and start scanning it with the electron microcope and figure out the circuitry. I remembered a place that I use to work for had one of these facilities that they used to analyze chips that we accidently blew out while running tests. They could actually find the area that was fried and show us where in the circuit it was. I am sure that many companies and universities must have these facilities and that the potential is there, especially at a university where the security at such a facility is looser, for someone to take a clipper apart and analyze it? What can the government do to prevent this? Start taking away all microchip analysis facilities and electron microscopes??

How wrong you will be. I participated in the last National March on Washington (MOW) for LesGayBi rights (Oct 11, 1987) - with a turnout of about 750,000 people - and we didn't have alot pissing us off at the time. The big issue was the AIDS crisis, but we weren't being slapped around quite as bad as we are now. This time its AIDS, and Equal Rights, and the Military Squabble. And this MOW has been in the planning for YEARS whereas the last one was pulled together in a relatively short time. The last MOW was the largest ever on D.C. and you can bet we are going to exceed that by a long shot. I truly believe we will exceed the 1.0 million goal the MOW committee has always had set for this event.

I heard that there is a VESA driver for the XGA-2 card available on compuserve. I just got this card, and I am wondering if this driver is available on a FTP site anywhere. My news service has beeen erratic lately so please E-Mail me at: [email protected] Thanks in advance.

I have found that you should observe the following with almost all new equipment : Check for warrany tape. If none, carefully open unit. Inspect for loose wires, jumpers, screws, and other trash. Clean up these manufacturing mistakes. *Now* power up the unit and check it out. I can't think of how many things I've bought that weren't okay right out of the box due to sloppy QC. - Jonathan PS : This goes for any manufacturer. I'm not picking on anyone. -- Internet: [email protected] Fidonet: Jonathan Deitch@1:133/411.7 [email protected] Bellnet: 1 - (404) - 261 - 3665 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atlanta 1996 !! | Play Pinball !! | Don't Panic ! | "I hate it when I can't --------------------------------------------------| trust my own technology!" "Thrills! Chills! Magic! Prizes!" -- Hurricane | -- Geordi LaForge

Due to a discussion on this group some time ago, the theists would more likely take an Asimov quote out of context and paint him as the biggest Bible thumpin', God fearin', atheist hatin' christian you ever laid eyes on. Right up there with Einstein. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bob Beauchaine [email protected] They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away, and sank Manhattan out at sea.

Does anyone have any information on the Polaroid Palette system. It appears to be a gadget for transfering graphics images to film. Does anyone have any detail about it like the maximum supported resolution or types of video input???? What did Polaroid market them as????? Fletch

Yes, but (a) we were talking about peak level, not career averages and (b) Clemente was the best fielding RF of all time, as far as anyone can tell I did a quick scan last night, looking for players with a peak comparable to or better than Winfield. In my quick-n-dirty subjective judgement, you could make good cases for Ruth, Aaron, Ott, Robinson, Clemente, Kaline, Maris, Klein, Jackson, Waner, and probably a few others. This is not a knock on Winfield, but a comment on his consistency: all of those other players had awesome stretches and very good stretches, while Winfield has been more uniformly excellent. Hall of Fame? Absolutely. Top-10 peak? I'm not so sure. Top 10 total career value? Yes, almost certainly.

Alan "All in all, it's just another" Sepinwall writes... I agree. However, I have to object. Growing up in the early 1980's and playing 2 years of Mario Mendoza-esque Little League, I was told that since my hitting, well, sucked, I would do best to either "Walk, or take one in the face for the team". I did both. And, my Yankee fan father would say, "Bat like Oscar Gamble". So I did. And my career OBP was about .550. Not only was Oscar a fun guy to watch, but he had some pretty cool baseball cards and helped me become one of the best little league players in history.

What is the real story here? Can I hook up any PC SVGA Montitor to the Centris internal video? Do I need to make my own cable if it doesn't not come with one? Has apple released a Tech note with the pinouts for doing such? The reasoj I ask is that it seems the prices for SVGA are lower than that of their mac counterparts... --mike

Has anyone ever heard of the X Professional Organization? Is anyone a member? Is the membership worth the $100 or so that they charge?

Not to change the subject, but how was Fr. Gobbi allowed at Notre Dame? Notre Dame is an anti Catholic University. Was this allowed to show that the crackpots at Notre Dame believe in freedom of speech? I am glad that they did allow him to speak.