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There are other magazines, and there are a lot of magazines that just don't give a shit. They purposely misquote a huge funny story, you know, just to fuck with you or to, you know, just to make their.
there are other magazines, and there are a lot of magazines that just don't give a shit. they purposely misquote a huge funny story, you know, just to fuck with you or to, you know, just to make their.
1063
I'm not really opposed to videos. I don't hate them. Sometimes they're fun to do. Especially that video was fun to do because it only took us six hours.
i'm not really opposed to videos. i don't hate them. sometimes they're fun to do. especially that video was fun to do because it only took us six hours.
1064
Normally a video will take the whole day over and over and over. We only had to listen to the song like four times. It was great.
normally a video will take the whole day over and over and over. we only had to listen to the song like four times. it was great.
1065
It's great to be able to do that. And it was totally spontaneous.
it's great to be able to do that. and it was totally spontaneous.
1066
Brought some dresses with her she was taking them to a friend's house Or she'd know she had borrowed some dresses from a friend of hers, and so I thought hey. Let's put some dresses on and.
brought some dresses with her she was taking them to a friend's house or she'd know she had borrowed some dresses from a friend of hers, and so i thought hey. let's put some dresses on and.
1067
you know, dance around in those. And that was just.
you know, dance around in those. and that was just.
1068
you know everything was pretty much spontaneous the the the.
you know everything was pretty much spontaneous the the the.
1069
the basic idea was just to.
the basic idea was just to.
1070
It came from the early sixtiethies or the late fiftiethies.
it came from the early sixtiethies or the late fiftiethies.
1071
Yeah. Oh, for years. Ever since I was like twelve, we're like,.
yeah. oh, for years. ever since i was like twelve, we're like,.
1072
that issue of Cream Magazine when they were following the Sex Pistols.
that issue of cream magazine when they were following the sex pistols.
1073
tour, you know, in seventy-eight.
tour, you know, in seventy-eight.
1074
I remember seeing that picture of Sid Vicious and just going, oh, wow, that's real rock and roll. It has to be. Look at the blood on his face.
i remember seeing that picture of sid vicious and just going, oh, wow, that's real rock and roll. it has to be. look at the blood on his face.
1075
Probably the first band that I was really into was The Beatles and then all that Top forty radio.
probably the first band that i was really into was the beatles and then all that top forty radio.
1076
When I was about fourth grade, I was living with my father in Monteceno. And, um.
when i was about fourth grade, i was living with my father in monteceno. and, um.
1077
I just, I, what was it? He had a record club.
i just, i, what was it? he had a record club.
1078
you know one of those columbia house record clubs you know and one of his friends he was a bachelor he was a fresh you know he had just recently gotten divorced and he was a bachelor so one of his bachelor friends told him to uh. get a.
you know one of those columbia house record clubs you know and one of his friends he was a bachelor he was a fresh you know he had just recently gotten divorced and he was a bachelor so one of his bachelor friends told him to uh. get a.
1079
Get one of those subscriptions in.
get one of those subscriptions in.
1080
you know, a harder rock and roll fan. I used to like, I would.
you know, a harder rock and roll fan. i used to like, i would.
1081
I remember one time I took a piece of metal and taped it to my chest and.
i remember one time i took a piece of metal and taped it to my chest and.
1082
I put a bunch of firecrackers, I taped a bunch of crackers on that piece of metal and put my shirt over it and lit myself on fire and jumped off the roof and stuff like that. I would take all the bedding out, put it on the deck and jump off the roof, take my bike off of it and stuff like that.
i put a bunch of firecrackers, i taped a bunch of crackers on that piece of metal and put my shirt over it and lit myself on fire and jumped off the roof and stuff like that. i would take all the bedding out, put it on the deck and jump off the roof, take my bike off of it and stuff like that.
1083
you know, but then I hurt myself too much. And then, um.
you know, but then i hurt myself too much. and then, um.
1084
But at a really early age I wanted to be a rock and roll. I wanted to play drums. You know, ever since I.
but at a really early age i wanted to be a rock and roll. i wanted to play drums. you know, ever since i.
1085
I forgot my first Beatles record. I have the adoration of John Lennon, but.
i forgot my first beatles record. i have the adoration of john lennon, but.
1086
have the anonymity of Ringo Starr. You know, I didn't want to be a front man, I just wanted to be back there but you know, be a rock and roll star at the same time.
have the anonymity of ringo starr. you know, i didn't want to be a front man, i just wanted to be back there but you know, be a rock and roll star at the same time.
1087
I'm a really bad drummer but I love to play drums and I joined.
i'm a really bad drummer but i love to play drums and i joined.
1088
I was in high school and junior high.
i was in high school and junior high.
1089
Grade school, whoops. Let me start that over. I was in a grade school band, and I played snare drum for years, and it went up until high school. I never learned how to read music either. I always faked my way through it.
grade school, whoops. let me start that over. i was in a grade school band, and i played snare drum for years, and it went up until high school. i never learned how to read music either. i always faked my way through it.
1090
I would watch the kid in first chair.
i would watch the kid in first chair.
1091
I would watch him figure out the piece and then I would copy him.
i would watch him figure out the piece and then i would copy him.
1092
I don't know. I mean as long as I got the credit for it. If I wrote a song I'd like to get the credit for it but then.
i don't know. i mean as long as i got the credit for it. if i wrote a song i'd like to get the credit for it but then.
1093
all you have to do is look on the insert of an album and it says your name on it you know but um.
all you have to do is look on the insert of an album and it says your name on it you know but um.
1094
No, at an early age for a long time I really did want to be someone in the background a rhythm guitar player or a drummer you know, I didn't want all the limelight because Even if you're not a songwriter.
no, at an early age for a long time i really did want to be someone in the background a rhythm guitar player or a drummer you know, i didn't want all the limelight because even if you're not a songwriter.
1095
You know, the lead singer always gets everything, you know, they get all the attention and everything, you know.
you know, the lead singer always gets everything, you know, they get all the attention and everything, you know.
1096
So, and I would, I still to this day would much prefer that, really.
so, and i would, i still to this day would much prefer that, really.
1097
seriously in a band together. But we had like side bands with Buzz and the Melvins, other members of the Melvins and friends of ours.
seriously in a band together. but we had like side bands with buzz and the melvins, other members of the melvins and friends of ours.
1098
in that area we got together and played in a few bands.
in that area we got together and played in a few bands.
1099
the stiff woodies, we'd play at local jock kegs, you know, we'd put Knox gel in our hair and like GBH and go and play live music at these shows, I mean at these parties and it was great, you know.
the stiff woodies, we'd play at local jock kegs, you know, we'd put knox gel in our hair and like gbh and go and play live music at these shows, i mean at these parties and it was great, you know.
1100
But everyone was so drunk that they didn't care about our appearance. They just wanted live music.
but everyone was so drunk that they didn't care about our appearance. they just wanted live music.
1101
I don't think he ever really had very many aspirations to be in a band, really.
i don't think he ever really had very many aspirations to be in a band, really.
1102
He just liked playing guitar. I knew he had a guitar for years.
he just liked playing guitar. i knew he had a guitar for years.
1103
I'm Philip Kroeber, the drummer for the Melvins, and I made a demo in like eighty-five, late eighty-five, and.
i'm philip kroeber, the drummer for the melvins, and i made a demo in like eighty-five, late eighty-five, and.
1104
at my aunt's house on a four track and uh. i'd had the tape for about a year or so.
at my aunt's house on a four track and uh. i'd had the tape for about a year or so.
1105
And I was always trying to push it on my friends, you know, to try to get them into starting a band with me. And one day Chris.
and i was always trying to push it on my friends, you know, to try to get them into starting a band with me. and one day chris.
1106
After probably hearing it a few times,.
after probably hearing it a few times,.
1107
just decided, hey, this is pretty good, you know.
just decided, hey, this is pretty good, you know.
1108
So finally the hint.
so finally the hint.
1109
and Dale played bass on the other parts and some of the other songs. Yeah, that was my band, my imaginary band.
and dale played bass on the other parts and some of the other songs. yeah, that was my band, my imaginary band.
1110
I think it clicked in a way.
i think it clicked in a way.
1111
where just the fact that we were actually playing music and I heard these songs.
where just the fact that we were actually playing music and i heard these songs.
1112
for the first time. It was just so amazing, you know, to actually.
for the first time. it was just so amazing, you know, to actually.
1113
play to i mean i'd heard these songs because they were recorded but they're all the.
play to i mean i'd heard these songs because they were recorded but they're all the.
1114
I can never get anyone to stay more than a day or a few hours.
i can never get anyone to stay more than a day or a few hours.
1115
If we played together in the house,.
if we played together in the house,.
1116
for a couple of hours and if two people stop by we consider that a gig, you know, a show.
for a couple of hours and if two people stop by we consider that a gig, you know, a show.
1117
to us. I mean, that was good enough. We had an audience of two people, you know, locals who hated our guts and thought it was terrible music, you know. But the first.
to us. i mean, that was good enough. we had an audience of two people, you know, locals who hated our guts and thought it was terrible music, you know. but the first.
1118
official show we actually played was at a party.
official show we actually played was at a party.
1119
It was way out in the woods. I can't even remember what town it was. It was somewhere in between Monteceno and Aberdeen, and it was, you know, a typical kegger.
it was way out in the woods. i can't even remember what town it was. it was somewhere in between monteceno and aberdeen, and it was, you know, a typical kegger.
1120
It was pretty amazing. That was a fun night. I think it was Halloween night.
it was pretty amazing. that was a fun night. i think it was halloween night.
1121
We were really drunk and we had some fake Halloween blood and we smeared it all over ourselves and played our seven songs off the tape.
we were really drunk and we had some fake halloween blood and we smeared it all over ourselves and played our seven songs off the tape.
1122
We alienated the entire crowd. The entire party moved into the kitchen.
we alienated the entire crowd. the entire party moved into the kitchen.
1123
and just left the band, just left us there in the front room playing our songs. I really don't have a very good answer for that other than.
and just left the band, just left us there in the front room playing our songs. i really don't have a very good answer for that other than.
1124
It was a pop song. It was one of the only.
it was a pop song. it was one of the only.
1125
palatable songs that we had. You know, at the time we were writing stuff like Hairspray Queen and we had a lot of, I mean even though there were a little bit of pop element in some of the songs.
palatable songs that we had. you know, at the time we were writing stuff like hairspray queen and we had a lot of, i mean even though there were a little bit of pop element in some of the songs.
1126
people would be able to swallow it easier. We'd get.
people would be able to swallow it easier. we'd get.
1127
instant attention by that. You know, people would. It was such a catchy song and it was so repetitive that we thought that.
instant attention by that. you know, people would. it was such a catchy song and it was so repetitive that we thought that.
1128
You know, people would listen to it right away.
you know, people would listen to it right away.
1129
recorded that song too. It's one of their favorite songs.
recorded that song too. it's one of their favorite songs.
1130
Yeah, it was almost a surprise to us.
yeah, it was almost a surprise to us.
1131
They might have warned us, they might have told us that.
they might have warned us, they might have told us that.
1132
this is what they were going to do, but it was kind of a surprise.
this is what they were going to do, but it was kind of a surprise.
1133
at the time. I mean, we were just so thrilled to actually put out a single that it wasn't until after only a thousand were printed that we started to complain about it, you know.
at the time. i mean, we were just so thrilled to actually put out a single that it wasn't until after only a thousand were printed that we started to complain about it, you know.
1134
There's more people who want to buy this thing, you know? Why?.
there's more people who want to buy this thing, you know? why?.
1135
Why not sell more? It just didn't make any sense to us at the time.
why not sell more? it just didn't make any sense to us at the time.
1136
I mean, I understand it now, but.
i mean, i understand it now, but.
1137
Still, I mean, if you're gonna put something out, I've always felt that there should have been an album before Bleach.
still, i mean, if you're gonna put something out, i've always felt that there should have been an album before bleach.
1138
By the time that we recorded the songs off of Bleach, we were really into that kind of music. I mean, we don't regret it now.
by the time that we recorded the songs off of bleach, we were really into that kind of music. i mean, we don't regret it now.
1139
but at the time we should have put out.
but at the time we should have put out.
1140
the Fecal Matter tape, or at least a lot of the songs that were on.
the fecal matter tape, or at least a lot of the songs that were on.
1141
fecal matter tape we should have re-recorded them you know because that was just a period of.
fecal matter tape we should have re-recorded them you know because that was just a period of.
1142
Our band, that was just part of our progression. We were really into experimental, noisy, like butthole surfers kind of music.
our band, that was just part of our progression. we were really into experimental, noisy, like butthole surfers kind of music.
1143
Most of the stuff on his social site should have come out before Bleach actually.
most of the stuff on his social site should have come out before bleach actually.
1144
But also that we did feel a little bit of.
but also that we did feel a little bit of.
1145
a little bit of intimidation by the whole Seattle scene because everyone was so heavily into this retro seventiethies thing.
a little bit of intimidation by the whole seattle scene because everyone was so heavily into this retro seventiethies thing.
1146
And because we were on that label, I mean, there was.
and because we were on that label, i mean, there was.
1147
an element of that there, you know, it was like,.
an element of that there, you know, it was like,.
1148
quite a few suggestions from what I can remember.
quite a few suggestions from what i can remember.
1149
You know, I mean, it wasn't like they demanded it. It wasn't like, you know.
you know, i mean, it wasn't like they demanded it. it wasn't like, you know.
1150
what a major label. I mean, I've heard of some really scary major label stories, but there is a little bit of major label.
what a major label. i mean, i've heard of some really scary major label stories, but there is a little bit of major label.
1151
attitude going on with sub-pop at the time, you know? I mean, I remember one time, Jonathan,.
attitude going on with sub-pop at the time, you know? i mean, i remember one time, jonathan,.
1152
suggested I change some lyrics in one of the songs and stuff like that, you know? And that was just kind of weird because it's supposed to be.
suggested i change some lyrics in one of the songs and stuff like that, you know? and that was just kind of weird because it's supposed to be.
1153
It's supposed to be an independent label, you know?.
it's supposed to be an independent label, you know?.
1154
And I don't know what I'm trying to say.
and i don't know what i'm trying to say.
1155
No, I guess what I'm trying to say is that.
no, i guess what i'm trying to say is that.
1156
in that week right before we recorded that.
in that week right before we recorded that.
1157
We were excited about the new songs. We wanted to record them.
we were excited about the new songs. we wanted to record them.
1158
Initially we wanted to just record.
initially we wanted to just record.
1159
the few new songs that we had and re-record most of the stuff that was on the Fecal Matter tape. And that would have been the album.
the few new songs that we had and re-record most of the stuff that was on the fecal matter tape. and that would have been the album.
1160
It would have been a lot more like Incest Aside, but we just happened to write so many new songs.
it would have been a lot more like incest aside, but we just happened to write so many new songs.
1161
And they just happened to have been more in the seventiethies.
and they just happened to have been more in the seventiethies.
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