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1062 | There are other magazines, and there are a lot of magazines that just don't give a shit. They purposely misquote a huge funny story, you know, just to fuck with you or to, you know, just to make their. | there are other magazines, and there are a lot of magazines that just don't give a shit. they purposely misquote a huge funny story, you know, just to fuck with you or to, you know, just to make their. | |
1063 | I'm not really opposed to videos. I don't hate them. Sometimes they're fun to do. Especially that video was fun to do because it only took us six hours. | i'm not really opposed to videos. i don't hate them. sometimes they're fun to do. especially that video was fun to do because it only took us six hours. | |
1064 | Normally a video will take the whole day over and over and over. We only had to listen to the song like four times. It was great. | normally a video will take the whole day over and over and over. we only had to listen to the song like four times. it was great. | |
1065 | It's great to be able to do that. And it was totally spontaneous. | it's great to be able to do that. and it was totally spontaneous. | |
1066 | Brought some dresses with her she was taking them to a friend's house Or she'd know she had borrowed some dresses from a friend of hers, and so I thought hey. Let's put some dresses on and. | brought some dresses with her she was taking them to a friend's house or she'd know she had borrowed some dresses from a friend of hers, and so i thought hey. let's put some dresses on and. | |
1067 | you know, dance around in those. And that was just. | you know, dance around in those. and that was just. | |
1068 | you know everything was pretty much spontaneous the the the. | you know everything was pretty much spontaneous the the the. | |
1069 | the basic idea was just to. | the basic idea was just to. | |
1070 | It came from the early sixtiethies or the late fiftiethies. | it came from the early sixtiethies or the late fiftiethies. | |
1071 | Yeah. Oh, for years. Ever since I was like twelve, we're like,. | yeah. oh, for years. ever since i was like twelve, we're like,. | |
1072 | that issue of Cream Magazine when they were following the Sex Pistols. | that issue of cream magazine when they were following the sex pistols. | |
1073 | tour, you know, in seventy-eight. | tour, you know, in seventy-eight. | |
1074 | I remember seeing that picture of Sid Vicious and just going, oh, wow, that's real rock and roll. It has to be. Look at the blood on his face. | i remember seeing that picture of sid vicious and just going, oh, wow, that's real rock and roll. it has to be. look at the blood on his face. | |
1075 | Probably the first band that I was really into was The Beatles and then all that Top forty radio. | probably the first band that i was really into was the beatles and then all that top forty radio. | |
1076 | When I was about fourth grade, I was living with my father in Monteceno. And, um. | when i was about fourth grade, i was living with my father in monteceno. and, um. | |
1077 | I just, I, what was it? He had a record club. | i just, i, what was it? he had a record club. | |
1078 | you know one of those columbia house record clubs you know and one of his friends he was a bachelor he was a fresh you know he had just recently gotten divorced and he was a bachelor so one of his bachelor friends told him to uh. get a. | you know one of those columbia house record clubs you know and one of his friends he was a bachelor he was a fresh you know he had just recently gotten divorced and he was a bachelor so one of his bachelor friends told him to uh. get a. | |
1079 | Get one of those subscriptions in. | get one of those subscriptions in. | |
1080 | you know, a harder rock and roll fan. I used to like, I would. | you know, a harder rock and roll fan. i used to like, i would. | |
1081 | I remember one time I took a piece of metal and taped it to my chest and. | i remember one time i took a piece of metal and taped it to my chest and. | |
1082 | I put a bunch of firecrackers, I taped a bunch of crackers on that piece of metal and put my shirt over it and lit myself on fire and jumped off the roof and stuff like that. I would take all the bedding out, put it on the deck and jump off the roof, take my bike off of it and stuff like that. | i put a bunch of firecrackers, i taped a bunch of crackers on that piece of metal and put my shirt over it and lit myself on fire and jumped off the roof and stuff like that. i would take all the bedding out, put it on the deck and jump off the roof, take my bike off of it and stuff like that. | |
1083 | you know, but then I hurt myself too much. And then, um. | you know, but then i hurt myself too much. and then, um. | |
1084 | But at a really early age I wanted to be a rock and roll. I wanted to play drums. You know, ever since I. | but at a really early age i wanted to be a rock and roll. i wanted to play drums. you know, ever since i. | |
1085 | I forgot my first Beatles record. I have the adoration of John Lennon, but. | i forgot my first beatles record. i have the adoration of john lennon, but. | |
1086 | have the anonymity of Ringo Starr. You know, I didn't want to be a front man, I just wanted to be back there but you know, be a rock and roll star at the same time. | have the anonymity of ringo starr. you know, i didn't want to be a front man, i just wanted to be back there but you know, be a rock and roll star at the same time. | |
1087 | I'm a really bad drummer but I love to play drums and I joined. | i'm a really bad drummer but i love to play drums and i joined. | |
1088 | I was in high school and junior high. | i was in high school and junior high. | |
1089 | Grade school, whoops. Let me start that over. I was in a grade school band, and I played snare drum for years, and it went up until high school. I never learned how to read music either. I always faked my way through it. | grade school, whoops. let me start that over. i was in a grade school band, and i played snare drum for years, and it went up until high school. i never learned how to read music either. i always faked my way through it. | |
1090 | I would watch the kid in first chair. | i would watch the kid in first chair. | |
1091 | I would watch him figure out the piece and then I would copy him. | i would watch him figure out the piece and then i would copy him. | |
1092 | I don't know. I mean as long as I got the credit for it. If I wrote a song I'd like to get the credit for it but then. | i don't know. i mean as long as i got the credit for it. if i wrote a song i'd like to get the credit for it but then. | |
1093 | all you have to do is look on the insert of an album and it says your name on it you know but um. | all you have to do is look on the insert of an album and it says your name on it you know but um. | |
1094 | No, at an early age for a long time I really did want to be someone in the background a rhythm guitar player or a drummer you know, I didn't want all the limelight because Even if you're not a songwriter. | no, at an early age for a long time i really did want to be someone in the background a rhythm guitar player or a drummer you know, i didn't want all the limelight because even if you're not a songwriter. | |
1095 | You know, the lead singer always gets everything, you know, they get all the attention and everything, you know. | you know, the lead singer always gets everything, you know, they get all the attention and everything, you know. | |
1096 | So, and I would, I still to this day would much prefer that, really. | so, and i would, i still to this day would much prefer that, really. | |
1097 | seriously in a band together. But we had like side bands with Buzz and the Melvins, other members of the Melvins and friends of ours. | seriously in a band together. but we had like side bands with buzz and the melvins, other members of the melvins and friends of ours. | |
1098 | in that area we got together and played in a few bands. | in that area we got together and played in a few bands. | |
1099 | the stiff woodies, we'd play at local jock kegs, you know, we'd put Knox gel in our hair and like GBH and go and play live music at these shows, I mean at these parties and it was great, you know. | the stiff woodies, we'd play at local jock kegs, you know, we'd put knox gel in our hair and like gbh and go and play live music at these shows, i mean at these parties and it was great, you know. | |
1100 | But everyone was so drunk that they didn't care about our appearance. They just wanted live music. | but everyone was so drunk that they didn't care about our appearance. they just wanted live music. | |
1101 | I don't think he ever really had very many aspirations to be in a band, really. | i don't think he ever really had very many aspirations to be in a band, really. | |
1102 | He just liked playing guitar. I knew he had a guitar for years. | he just liked playing guitar. i knew he had a guitar for years. | |
1103 | I'm Philip Kroeber, the drummer for the Melvins, and I made a demo in like eighty-five, late eighty-five, and. | i'm philip kroeber, the drummer for the melvins, and i made a demo in like eighty-five, late eighty-five, and. | |
1104 | at my aunt's house on a four track and uh. i'd had the tape for about a year or so. | at my aunt's house on a four track and uh. i'd had the tape for about a year or so. | |
1105 | And I was always trying to push it on my friends, you know, to try to get them into starting a band with me. And one day Chris. | and i was always trying to push it on my friends, you know, to try to get them into starting a band with me. and one day chris. | |
1106 | After probably hearing it a few times,. | after probably hearing it a few times,. | |
1107 | just decided, hey, this is pretty good, you know. | just decided, hey, this is pretty good, you know. | |
1108 | So finally the hint. | so finally the hint. | |
1109 | and Dale played bass on the other parts and some of the other songs. Yeah, that was my band, my imaginary band. | and dale played bass on the other parts and some of the other songs. yeah, that was my band, my imaginary band. | |
1110 | I think it clicked in a way. | i think it clicked in a way. | |
1111 | where just the fact that we were actually playing music and I heard these songs. | where just the fact that we were actually playing music and i heard these songs. | |
1112 | for the first time. It was just so amazing, you know, to actually. | for the first time. it was just so amazing, you know, to actually. | |
1113 | play to i mean i'd heard these songs because they were recorded but they're all the. | play to i mean i'd heard these songs because they were recorded but they're all the. | |
1114 | I can never get anyone to stay more than a day or a few hours. | i can never get anyone to stay more than a day or a few hours. | |
1115 | If we played together in the house,. | if we played together in the house,. | |
1116 | for a couple of hours and if two people stop by we consider that a gig, you know, a show. | for a couple of hours and if two people stop by we consider that a gig, you know, a show. | |
1117 | to us. I mean, that was good enough. We had an audience of two people, you know, locals who hated our guts and thought it was terrible music, you know. But the first. | to us. i mean, that was good enough. we had an audience of two people, you know, locals who hated our guts and thought it was terrible music, you know. but the first. | |
1118 | official show we actually played was at a party. | official show we actually played was at a party. | |
1119 | It was way out in the woods. I can't even remember what town it was. It was somewhere in between Monteceno and Aberdeen, and it was, you know, a typical kegger. | it was way out in the woods. i can't even remember what town it was. it was somewhere in between monteceno and aberdeen, and it was, you know, a typical kegger. | |
1120 | It was pretty amazing. That was a fun night. I think it was Halloween night. | it was pretty amazing. that was a fun night. i think it was halloween night. | |
1121 | We were really drunk and we had some fake Halloween blood and we smeared it all over ourselves and played our seven songs off the tape. | we were really drunk and we had some fake halloween blood and we smeared it all over ourselves and played our seven songs off the tape. | |
1122 | We alienated the entire crowd. The entire party moved into the kitchen. | we alienated the entire crowd. the entire party moved into the kitchen. | |
1123 | and just left the band, just left us there in the front room playing our songs. I really don't have a very good answer for that other than. | and just left the band, just left us there in the front room playing our songs. i really don't have a very good answer for that other than. | |
1124 | It was a pop song. It was one of the only. | it was a pop song. it was one of the only. | |
1125 | palatable songs that we had. You know, at the time we were writing stuff like Hairspray Queen and we had a lot of, I mean even though there were a little bit of pop element in some of the songs. | palatable songs that we had. you know, at the time we were writing stuff like hairspray queen and we had a lot of, i mean even though there were a little bit of pop element in some of the songs. | |
1126 | people would be able to swallow it easier. We'd get. | people would be able to swallow it easier. we'd get. | |
1127 | instant attention by that. You know, people would. It was such a catchy song and it was so repetitive that we thought that. | instant attention by that. you know, people would. it was such a catchy song and it was so repetitive that we thought that. | |
1128 | You know, people would listen to it right away. | you know, people would listen to it right away. | |
1129 | recorded that song too. It's one of their favorite songs. | recorded that song too. it's one of their favorite songs. | |
1130 | Yeah, it was almost a surprise to us. | yeah, it was almost a surprise to us. | |
1131 | They might have warned us, they might have told us that. | they might have warned us, they might have told us that. | |
1132 | this is what they were going to do, but it was kind of a surprise. | this is what they were going to do, but it was kind of a surprise. | |
1133 | at the time. I mean, we were just so thrilled to actually put out a single that it wasn't until after only a thousand were printed that we started to complain about it, you know. | at the time. i mean, we were just so thrilled to actually put out a single that it wasn't until after only a thousand were printed that we started to complain about it, you know. | |
1134 | There's more people who want to buy this thing, you know? Why?. | there's more people who want to buy this thing, you know? why?. | |
1135 | Why not sell more? It just didn't make any sense to us at the time. | why not sell more? it just didn't make any sense to us at the time. | |
1136 | I mean, I understand it now, but. | i mean, i understand it now, but. | |
1137 | Still, I mean, if you're gonna put something out, I've always felt that there should have been an album before Bleach. | still, i mean, if you're gonna put something out, i've always felt that there should have been an album before bleach. | |
1138 | By the time that we recorded the songs off of Bleach, we were really into that kind of music. I mean, we don't regret it now. | by the time that we recorded the songs off of bleach, we were really into that kind of music. i mean, we don't regret it now. | |
1139 | but at the time we should have put out. | but at the time we should have put out. | |
1140 | the Fecal Matter tape, or at least a lot of the songs that were on. | the fecal matter tape, or at least a lot of the songs that were on. | |
1141 | fecal matter tape we should have re-recorded them you know because that was just a period of. | fecal matter tape we should have re-recorded them you know because that was just a period of. | |
1142 | Our band, that was just part of our progression. We were really into experimental, noisy, like butthole surfers kind of music. | our band, that was just part of our progression. we were really into experimental, noisy, like butthole surfers kind of music. | |
1143 | Most of the stuff on his social site should have come out before Bleach actually. | most of the stuff on his social site should have come out before bleach actually. | |
1144 | But also that we did feel a little bit of. | but also that we did feel a little bit of. | |
1145 | a little bit of intimidation by the whole Seattle scene because everyone was so heavily into this retro seventiethies thing. | a little bit of intimidation by the whole seattle scene because everyone was so heavily into this retro seventiethies thing. | |
1146 | And because we were on that label, I mean, there was. | and because we were on that label, i mean, there was. | |
1147 | an element of that there, you know, it was like,. | an element of that there, you know, it was like,. | |
1148 | quite a few suggestions from what I can remember. | quite a few suggestions from what i can remember. | |
1149 | You know, I mean, it wasn't like they demanded it. It wasn't like, you know. | you know, i mean, it wasn't like they demanded it. it wasn't like, you know. | |
1150 | what a major label. I mean, I've heard of some really scary major label stories, but there is a little bit of major label. | what a major label. i mean, i've heard of some really scary major label stories, but there is a little bit of major label. | |
1151 | attitude going on with sub-pop at the time, you know? I mean, I remember one time, Jonathan,. | attitude going on with sub-pop at the time, you know? i mean, i remember one time, jonathan,. | |
1152 | suggested I change some lyrics in one of the songs and stuff like that, you know? And that was just kind of weird because it's supposed to be. | suggested i change some lyrics in one of the songs and stuff like that, you know? and that was just kind of weird because it's supposed to be. | |
1153 | It's supposed to be an independent label, you know?. | it's supposed to be an independent label, you know?. | |
1154 | And I don't know what I'm trying to say. | and i don't know what i'm trying to say. | |
1155 | No, I guess what I'm trying to say is that. | no, i guess what i'm trying to say is that. | |
1156 | in that week right before we recorded that. | in that week right before we recorded that. | |
1157 | We were excited about the new songs. We wanted to record them. | we were excited about the new songs. we wanted to record them. | |
1158 | Initially we wanted to just record. | initially we wanted to just record. | |
1159 | the few new songs that we had and re-record most of the stuff that was on the Fecal Matter tape. And that would have been the album. | the few new songs that we had and re-record most of the stuff that was on the fecal matter tape. and that would have been the album. | |
1160 | It would have been a lot more like Incest Aside, but we just happened to write so many new songs. | it would have been a lot more like incest aside, but we just happened to write so many new songs. | |
1161 | And they just happened to have been more in the seventiethies. | and they just happened to have been more in the seventiethies. |
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