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Exactly, I mean that's one of the things that is unique about this camera, is when you're starting to interact with the video, it feels like you're there. Yeah, so walk me through what's actually in this thing. All right, so the camera has three optics, each one's eight megapixels, each has its own sensor. The unique thing with this is everything's stitched together on the camera, so it's really easy to use, there's no need to muck around with software afterwards for post-processing. It does video at 2K and photo at 4K. Oh wow. So it gives you a lot of great image quality. Very simple to use, one button for start and stop, and then you connect it to computer afterwards with a micro USB cable, download your files, and you're pretty much ready to go. Awesome. Getting it, how is getting it to the actual Oculus Rift, because I know a lot of that sort of software behind it is sort of still being constructed even on the Oculus side. Yeah, I mean one of the things that we wanted to ensure was ease of use. So we've got software at least so you can look at it on your computer, on your Mac or your PC. We've got an app, so you can experience that on an iPad, iPhone, Android, tablet or device. We've got our own online platform, so it's like a YouTube channel, but for 360 video, because at the moment you can't share 360 video very easily. Yeah. And then to get things onto Oculus at the moment, we're still working with Oculus to make that really smooth and simple, but by the time this is shipping, we're hoping to have everything seamlessly integrated, so it'll be easy for users just to hook their Oculus up and pop it on and look around. Yeah, totally. There's mountains behind me. I'm going to look in here and see them for real. Yeah, pop the Oculus on and you can be just like you're in the French Alps. Yeah. Well, and so this is real footage that you guys got of the... Yeah, we've got different scenes coming up. Oh, okay. Now I'm moving. I'm looking at the... Ah, okay. Now I'm not in the French Alps anymore. No, you're in Switzerland. We sent a camera up into the stratosphere. Oh, okay. Now you're on a boat. Now I'm on a boat. Yep. Like the song. Wow. I'm right on the water here. Yep. And now you're having a drink in the... Oh, yeah. The toasting right above me. I don't have any beer though. No. This is terrible. I'm just... Oh, now I'm back in the mountains. Bowling. This is like Quantum Leap, what's happening right now. We tripping you out now? It's a little... Yeah, it's a little... Because I'm in one place and then I get pulled right back. Okay, I'm gonna un-rift here. Wow. Yeah, it's a little bit manic, but... Yeah, that was intense. That was like a Mountain Dew commercial. That was sweet. Awesome. Okay, so for the less manic version and for people who don't have the Rift but want to check out these things, the iPad is what you were saying. Yeah, I mean, unless you have a Rift, the most immersive experience and the interactive experience is with some type of smart device, which, you know, your iPhone, your iPad, a tablet, something like that. And with that, you get to use gestures or you can actually move the device. So here we've got a time lapse of San Francisco. With a normal camera, you just get this type of scene, which we can see here, just looking straight ahead. And then you can move around and look at what was going on around you while you're waiting for that trolley. Yeah. You know, we're gonna jump on it in a second. Now, we're on it. It was coming right at us. Yeah, exactly. But you can actually pick this up and if you move the device, it moves with you. So when do you think you'll ship? We're actually taking pre-orders at the moment. So customers can reserve a camera and we're hoping to ship in the coming months. We haven't got an exact date. Oh yeah, totally. We're actually tuning final production. 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It's the sort of, I'm going to strap this on while I'm taking my snowmobile through the Andes or something? I mean, we're a sports company. Okay, yeah. So obviously we're targeting that market. But there's a lot of interest from different areas. Security, military, police, you know, from a surveillance point of view. Really? Yeah, I mean... That's interesting. Because why not... I mean, why not just have like seven different cameras and they don't connect at all? No, of course. All I care about is like the raw information. No, but it's ease of use as well. And it's also the size. So... Yeah, well, and that's, you know, defense. That's a hell of a markup. That's good. And I mean, political stuff, like, you know, important events, right? Like if you could be on stage at the inauguration or you can be on, you know, you can be there when this big important speech is happening, right? Like just the sort of C-span level of, you know, you can now, we can make it, we can put this little post up, you know, or, you know, we were carrying around on a backpack. There's a helmet mount too. Helmet mount. There's lots of mounts that we've got. Yeah. And then suddenly anyone who wants to plug into the stream or watch it after the fact, I mean, it's all after the fact now, can plug in and feel like, feel like they're there. Exactly. So this is the other thing. I tip my hand a little bit, but the dream would be live, right? That would be awesome. Of course. And it's probably the number one question we get asked at the moment is, can I do live streaming on this? Everything's possible. It's, we want to get this one to market and we're looking at what's coming in the future and, you know, how you can make that nice and easy and get a good enough image quality because when you're streaming as well, you've got to think that you're pushing a lot of information. And you were saying at some point, again, we're dreaming big, you were thinking directional audio might be in future models? Of course. It's, I mean, okay, we've been talking about the Oculus. You pop that on, you start looking around, but if you could put on surround sound at the same time, you start to hear things and you hear a noise on your left. It helps you. Ah, there's something happening. I move to my left, it gets louder and things like that. So we're also dreaming big and, you know, we see this as the future of the way in which you interact with video and. Yeah, absolutely. One cool thing for the audience, if they want to play around with these videos, they can actually download the app. We've got all the videos we've been shooting up online. So it's playgeonaut, just P-L-A-Y-G-E-O-N-I-U-T-E, all one word. Download it and then you can start to experience that world. Yeah. And you took it to cool places. So there's some entertainment. 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"text": " And you took it to cool places."
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It feels like it's in the room with us. And how are you guys feeling? Evan, how are you doing? Feeling good. Yeah, really? Yes, feeling dry. What? I'm going to have a cup of coffee. Good to go. You're not feeling terrible or horrible or failed? No, no, no, no. I may not have had sleep, but what I didn't have in sleep, I made for excitement. Sweet spreadsheet excitement. I feel like Evan is lying ever so slightly. What? Sweet, sweet spreadsheet excitement? Yeah, you have no idea how many times I've heard that. Your CES experience is way different than mine. I think I've heard that tagline in a Microsoft ad somewhere. Yeah. It must have happened. Yeah. But there was something exciting. I mean, I know we're kind of exhausted and our souls have been battered and we're going to need like a month's worth of recuperation from this Vegas experience. But there was one really exciting and fun thing about the mobile side of things, and that was the Xperia Z1 Compact or Z1 Compact since we're in the States. And I think all of us have been excited. All of us have been anticipating it. Dan has an Xperia in front of him. Evan has one. He's a Sony fan. As am I. Okay. I do want to ask one question about this though. Yes. Why are you jumping right into like the business? I want to know how you feel, man. I'm afraid I have... Tell us the feels. Tell us the feels. The way I feel right now is... You just want to talk about the Z1 Altra. That's all that matters. No. Everything else is gone for you. All your flowers in your life have wilted. There is only space in your heart for the Z1 Altra. There's always space in my heart for vegetables. Flowers, vegetables, and eggs. Eggs are very important. Are you a big fan? Protein. But no. The way I feel is I've just had dinner. I'm exhausted. And if I don't talk about something truly exciting and interesting, I am going to fall asleep. And I mean, look, this is the only thing that's sustaining me. Unbranded water. That's the only thing I have space in my heart for. Let's set the scene. So typically every year at the mobile show, or at the CES show, there's not a ton... Wow. There's not a ton of mobile news. But Sony usually does something to give us something to talk about and something to do. It's not always a flagship. Sometimes it is. But they try harder at CES and mobile than basically anybody else. And they already have got this, the Z1 as their flagship, then they had the Z1 Ultra, the ridiculous tablet thing, and now we have the Z1 Mini? Compact. Exactly. It's not Mini. Not Mini. Mini denotes crap. Mini denotes we're pretending it's the same thing, but really we're nerfing the processor and putting a really crappy camera in. That's what Mini means, right? This is Z1 Mini? Yeah. Galaxy S4 Mini. S4 Mini. S3 Mini. S3 Mini. That's what it means if you're talking about Samsung products. It carries a lot of baggage. Same with the HTC, though. The HTC One Mini is nerfed. That thing is a piece. I was so excited for the One Mini, but that thing is a total piece. I was just cutting right to it. Every single one... I shouldn't say every single one, but many of them have a problem where the plastic around the outside just cracks along the buttons because they didn't make it. All right, enough about the One Mini. So the Z1 Compact, this is different because it's taking everything that we loved about the Z1, the great camera, the really fast processor, and putting it in a smaller size. Have you guys noticed my microphone's on the other side now? If you had audio issues, I apologize, but this should be all resolved now and I won't sound like the beautiful cold-ridden monster that I am. Continue. So, yeah, they're putting it in a smaller body that's easier to handle, which is what a lot of people, at least in our circle, have been asking for for a long time, for everybody to do. Who's played with one? I haven't touched one yet. I touched one briefly. Okay, so same build quality? Yep. I want to say it's not the same build quality. Okay, what's the story? Not quite. It's incredibly close, but the Z1 feels a little bit more solid. And the Z1 Compact just feels a little bit like... Maybe it's because it's lighter, like obviously it doesn't have a bigger battery in it, there's less glass, like just surface area of glass, but it does feel slightly lower, but it still feels great. So, I don't know. Still waterproof, still fast. Still glass, yeah. Yeah. They had some cool cutouts of like the aluminum extrusions that they make them out of. So here's the question, are you guys going to put your money where your mouth is? You've been talking about wanting a great 4.5 inch phone for years. If they will sell me one, if I could buy it with my money, I would throw down right now. Yeah, here's the problem. They announced it here at CES, which is, it's called the International CES, but it's mostly a US centric show. But they're not even going to sell it in the US. Not at this point in time. Vlad can buy one. At some point they will, right? Hopefully. God, I just, I mean, I don't even care if a carrier picks it up and they only offer it in pink. I just want them to bring it to the US. I mean, look, the thing is, what does the Z1 Compact, what Dan said, it's the definition of easy to say, but hard to execute, hard to perform. You take your flagship device, it's a five inch device, and you just shrink it to a 4.4 inch form factor. And we all kind of shrug it and say, well, okay, interesting, fine. But no, I mean, technically to get that, to make that happen is quite an incredible achievement. I mean, this is still the same 20 megapixel sensor, same camera as on the Z1. It doesn't, I mean, the only sacrifice that you make is that you don't have the 3000 milliamp power battery because there's just nowhere to fit it in that form factor. And the screen goes down to 720p. Yeah, and the screen resolution comes down, but again, that's irrelevant because there's no way for you to physically sense the difference between 1080 and 720p at a 4.4 inch size. But actually the screen goes up in quality because it's an IPS display. And this is the biggest upgrade as far as I'm concerned. This makes the Z1 Compact Sony's absolute flagship. Sony isn't going to openly say it, but this is its flagship because the IPS display is improved, it improves the viewing angles. Finally, after years and years of me complaining, obviously it takes a while for the message to get through from me to Sony. Well no, this is one of the stories to see. Sony is no longer a crushing disappointment. Every time they release a phone, you're like, oh man, Sony, you're going to do it right this time. And they don't. And like with the Z1 and especially the Z1 Mini, it's like, Mini, the Z1 Compact, it's like they got it. It seems like, right? I feel so. I absolutely feel so. And to Dan's point, it's disappointing that Sony isn't bringing it to the US. Or isn't immediately bringing it to the US. I know that I believe it's end of February or something like that they're starting to ship. I just asked them and they said there was some kind of intermediary time in February. They have no official. Yeah, it's a few weeks. And I mean, it's not perfect. It's still not perfect because it's not shipping with KitKat, which it really should be. That's an embarrassment. And they're saying the coming weeks after it ships, they're going to do a KitKat update. And to me, it's a case of what's going to happen in Mobile World Congress is at least Samsung is going to bring KitKat with its new devices. And others are going to push KitKat. Samsung announced devices here with KitKat. The tablet line that they announced, the Galaxy Tab Pro. We got to talk about these. We got to talk about the Tab Pro and the Note Pro. Tab Pro is like, stop. Why do you use this? Tell me why. So Samsung announced four new tablets here. They announced three Tab Pros in 8.4 inch, 10.1 inch, and massive 12.2 inch. And then they announced the Galaxy Note Pro, which only comes in 12.2 inch. And of course, the difference between the 12.2 inch Tab and the 12.2 inch Note is the support for the S Pen. But when I think about it, I always thought of it like Samsung's lines. The Note line of tablets always seemed like their Pro line already. Compared to the other tabs that were cheaper, didn't have as many features, they generally didn't have as fast processors and stuff like that. The Note tablets gave you more to do, and they worked better and things like that. Say what you feel, man. The Tab Pros are just like, they're iterative, they're whatever. There's no reason. And they're really too big. Note Pro is interesting because you get a huge tablet, and you've got multi-window thing if you're into that. You don't think you should be, well, maybe it's okay. The keyboard is ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, so they got this keyboard, it's an on-screen keyboard that has shading and bevels on the display of the keys to make it look like a real keyboard. They don't make it look like a real keyboard. They make it look like a real keyboard from 1987. Yeah. Come on. And then it has control buttons, so you can do Control C, Control V, which is kind of neat, and you're doing all those awesome spreadsheets for days. This is Samsung's move. Now you got my attention. Every year at a show, they roll up to CES, and they're like, yeah, we got some stuff, we made them, what the heck, we'll put them out there. They do it at MWC, and they do it at CES. This is they're like, yeah, we made it, we might as well, see. Yeah, I mean, it's just like, okay. The thing is, Samsung's probably going to sell a ton of them. They're going to put them in every single Best Buy. They're going to be on the big Best Buy displays. They're going to be 12.2 inch tablets, it's going to be massive. People are going to buy it, and then they're going to bring it home, and they're going to realize this thing's really awkward to use, and it kind of sucks. Now, Samsung phones have an air of inevitability about them because of their marketing, but I don't think that that magic, that whatever marketing prowess they've got, has bled over into tablets. Okay, okay. Here's the thing. Our producer, Jordan Oplinger, Oplinger or Oplinger? It's Oplinger. Oplinger, okay. Jordan Oplinger, our producer slash director, he told us- Slash friend. Oh, absolutely slash friend. At least I like to think so, but maybe he disagrees. I don't know. We'll see. He's an overall good guy. Yeah, that is undeniable. Well, he did ask us to make definitive statements about CES, and I noticed Dieter dropping one of those earlier on. He was like, cut mine in. All right. Mine is that if there is a theme to CES this year, it's that it's full of things that people don't actually want. Because these Samsung tablets, a great example of that, and we've been discussing this in the Verge Trader today, all of these wearables that we've been seeing are total example. Because everywhere I go, there are these Android-y smart watches slash fitness trackers slash pedometers slash things that don't really work. But how is that different from any other year? There's always crap I don't want at CES. I don't know. I feel like they've all done some research. They've all done some focus grouping, and they've all picked up on a trend. Because that's how Samsung does its devices. It does a focus group, and a bunch of people in Korea tell it, I want a 12-inch tablet, and it just kicks one out. So are you saying there's just nothing about a 12-inch tablet that could be redeeming or useful? For example, someone who's a student, could you not feasibly use it to read textbooks? Here's the thing. I think Samsung really kind of half-assed this whole thing. A 12.2-inch tablet could really be useful for somebody who wants to compare two spreadsheets side by side. They've got lots of screen to do it and stuff like that. But Samsung's not even offering a keyboard dock with it. They're relying on Logitech and third-party manufacturers to fill that in. But it would make so much sense for this thing to just dock into a keyboard, like the countless keyboard docks that are made for the iPad, and then you close it up and you've got a laptop replacement that runs Android. But I know Logitech announced that they're making one. We'll see how good it is or whatever. The other thing we need to talk about with these. The reason these don't work is because you need this tablet to be a real, like your computer replacement. But this UI, this like Metro, I mean, this tile thing. Yeah, they're calling it Magazine UX. It's a total ripoff of Windows 8.1's Metro tiles and stuff. Your widgets become squares and then you can have news squares and weather squares. It's hard to navigate. I think it's easier for new users who aren't used to like an Android home screen or whatever. But in this market, I don't know how many of those exist. Are there new users that have never used Magazine UI? The thing is, they call this a pro. It's going to be aimed at the early adopter, the person who wants the pro product. And it's running a very basic UI. It's aimed at dudes in suits. I can just buy it and say, give me a tablet that I can do work on. Be right back, take your call on my Bluetooth. And it's the thing that Evan asked of me, are you saying that there's no redeeming feature to a 12-inch tablet? And the thing is, of course there can be. But in order for that redeeming feature to exist, these guys need to be doing software well. And everything that Dan has said so far about Samsung's efforts with the software on these tablets says they're not doing the software well. And this is consistent. It's always the case that you see nice hardware and then the software comes around and it's supposed to work. Actually, Samsung is talking about walking that back now. Walking what back? Walking back their UI and being less crazy with their UI. Like on the next version of the Galaxy S. Yeah, but when a drunk person changes direction, they're still going straight. You bring a great point. I mean, what was the software like? I mean, so it's got that flip-forward Windows tile thing and then underneath it, it's touch where you can resize these windows, a little cross thing, and everything is very performant. But then as soon as you find a way to get out of there and God help you figure out how to do that, like hitting the back button, you hit the home button, getting back to it is weird, saving it is weird. It works super well until you actually try and have a sense of place and where it works in the OS. In which case, it totally falls apart. If you're using this in kind of like a business professional aspect, can it actually fulfill that? Like would a 12-inch laptop fulfill the same duty better? Yes. I mean, would a Windows 8 tablet be better for a student or a business person? I really just don't see the point of any tablet beyond 9 or 10 inches. Any tablet beyond 9 or 10 inches. Can you multitask well? Look, we're approaching the point where every screen is going to be a touch screen, even your TV. You don't have a choice. Touch screen is fine. I am down for that. Touch screen is fine, but once you go above 11 or 12 inches, you might as well just attach a keyboard to it. Right. Nah. When it's primarily used as a laptop and then you can maybe pop it out and do some quick tablet things and it has a touch screen, that's fine. I don't know. Touch screen is fine. But when this thing is primarily used as a tablet and it weighs a pound and a half and it's like a mile long because it's 16 by 9 and you're trying to hold it in one hand and interact with it and your hand just kind of like falls and cramps. I mean, I'm just going to bring this up very briefly. Transformer Book Duet. The one that ASUS introduced. And they call it a four in one. And you know what? It's just a one in one. It's just one compromise. Because it's supposed to be an Android tablet, a Windows tablet, a Windows laptop, an Android laptop. And you know what? The OS switching takes just three or four seconds. It works. That part of the software works. But it's a 13 inch tablet when it's a tablet. And other than Shaq, who's here at CES, and I go to within arm's reach, but no, well, his arm's reach, not my arm's reach. Other than Shaq, nobody really can use a 13 inch tablet as a tablet. Dude, I would. I could. Yeah. If every laptop had a detachable screen, a detachable touch screen, would you not use the shit out of that? To like, I'm going to work. Oh, no. You know what? I'm going to go watch a movie in bed. Oh, you know what? I'm going to lean back. Like, yeah, the fact that you can't carry it around, granted. That's fine. But if every laptop had a detachable touch screen that you could do stuff on and like watch a movie on and hang out on your couch with, how is that a great idea? If you could get a keyboard for upstairs, downstairs, and like at your desk, and you could just dock it into it and just leave the keyboards everywhere, that would be sick. The problem is all those tablets, laptops, were in Windows 8. Yeah. So, I mean, we didn't actually see very many of those. Yeah. Very little Windows stuff. That's what I was going to say. I mean, my perception of it remains, and it's exactly the opposite to what Intel was pushing with the two-in-one concept. My perception of it remains that if you want a laptop, you go and get yourself a laptop because you avoid the compromises. You avoid the mechanical things because with that Transformer book duet, it's chunky. It's chunkier than most 13-inch Ultrabooks. Whereas what I would say is my idea of the device would be like a 12-inch laptop, like one of those ThinkPad X240, things like that, where you can just fold it all the way back so the keyboard goes all the way around. I mean, I'm really talking about Lenovo Yoga. It exists. But just a little bit thinner, a little bit more refined, all of those extra little engineering bits that go into the improvement side of things. And then if you want a tablet, you go and get a tablet. Anytime you try and get too many things into one and the same device, you end up getting nothing that is really to your satisfaction. I mean, really, I think that's pretty much true, too. A 12-inch or 13-inch laptop and a 7-inch tablet, that's really a good sweet spot to do it. And then an Xperia Z1 Compact, which I am telling you is an amazing, amazing phone. I really like it. A Google Play edition of that phone, and I would buy like five. I mean, you've got to get every color. Yeah, exactly. There's four colors. I'm actually not. I may actually get the yellow one and the black one. The yellow one is awesome. I love the way the black and gray one looks, but the yellow one looks amazing. All right, let's talk smartwatches, because we've seen a lot of smartwatches this year at CES. Okay, that didn't work. We saw some last year, but this year, they're everywhere. Pebbles out. Yeah, they're everywhere and they're all terrible. I wouldn't say they're all terrible. I would say most of them are terrible. I would say that there are significant improvements to earlier versions. We saw Pebble announced its Pebble Steel, which is a dramatic improvement on the hardware. I know that not everyone loves it, and some people have been critical of it, sure, whatever, but nobody can really deny that it's better than the first iteration of the- I bought it. Dieter bought one already. I'm excited. Does anyone here really not like the design? I like it. I would say that- It's not stunningly, oh my God, I'm so happy with the design, but after seeing the steel, seeing the orange Pebble that I'm wearing on my wrist right now, this is embarrassing. You know what? My girlfriend told me she loves me less when I wear it. I don't blame her for it, because look at this thing. My take on it is, if it was not a Pebble, if it was a regular analog watch, I would not really be into the design, because it's kind of a generic watch design. It is a Pebble, and it does this fun stuff that I like what my Pebble does, but it looks nicer. It looks nicer with a suit. It looks nicer when you're going out to dinner. You can wear it with a suit. You can wear it with a suit. I think it's a marked improvement. Not only is the design much better, but the build quality leaps and bounds above the plastic Pebble. That's me handling it in the video, by the way. My big claim to fame for the Verge is that anytime there's a new smartwatch coming out, I put about five of them on my wrist. You've got great wrists, man. We've got the Pebble here. It's great. It's the same thing as last year. It's way faster with this new OS, though. Which the old one will get. So if you have the first edition of the Pebble, you're going to get the upgrade to the new software. You should get all the benefits there. There's a slew of just garbage. Just take an Android phone and cram it on your wrist. And that exists. Someone did that. Before we finish with the Pebble, I just wanted to bring up a couple of points about the hardware. Firstly, and Dan was asking me about this because I was first to see the Pebble, the buttons on the side are much, much improved from the original Pebble. In terms of hardware, though, the guys from Pebble said that they're trying to keep the hardware platform consistent. So everything inside the new Pebble is the same as the old Pebble. Except for RAM. No, the RAM is actually the same. It's storage. Storage, except for storage. It had four megs of storage. It's now eight megs of storage. Oh, yes. Eight megs. Who's going to use more than that, right? And there is a final point, and this is actually kind of a downside. It also has a different magnetic charging connector, which isn't compatible between the two generations, which kind of sucks. But the first one was done to match the contours of the Pebble so they couldn't really keep it the same. The downside for me is actually that I'm not in love with either the leather or the steel strap for the new Pebble. And the connector is custom now, right? Well, actually- No, not so much custom. It's still standard, but it's a much rarer standard. The connector has teeth. So it's like if you look at the standard Pebble as a straight bar across, the new one has teeth, which Pebble says is actually still a standard size, but it's a little bit harder to find straps for. So if you want to swap the strap, you'll probably have to go to a specialty watch shop to find it, but it can be done. And they sold how many of these Pebbles? 300,000. Of the ugly horrible ones? Of the ugly ones, 300,000. The new one is the high box Mars 250. I'm sorry, we can't call them the ugly ones. My mother wants one of these. They're not ugly. The white one's pretty fetching. It's not bad. It's a white watch band, and it's all right. I saw someone with a gray one today. I'm into that. I haven't seen that in person. It wasn't ugly until I saw the new one, and then I was like, oh, yeah. The new one does look really good. That's the point. That's the point. And that is the really big distinction here, that they went for style, and they actually delivered. Except for the fact that they have the giant word Pebble on the face of the watch. Yeah, that's pretty rough. Yeah, no one's a fan of that. No one's a fan of the branding, but what can you do? I didn't think it was too noticeable on the dark gray metal one. Which one did you buy, Dieter? The dark gray metal one. Yeah, I think the dark gray is the way to go. That way, in dim lighting, the whole thing will just be a flat sheet of unreadable plastic instead of silver surrounding unreadable plastic. It's actually Gorilla Glass. Yeah, I was just- Is it really? Yeah. I've got an old way to find out these. It was Gorilla Glass 2, and they're going to be moving to Gorilla Glass 3 as production grows on. Okay. And the old Pebble is still going to stick around. Now it's the entry-level sporting model. Don't get me wrong. There's not another smart watch that I would recommend to anybody right now. Absolutely. It's a lot of the raft of low rent stuff that we've seen here. I'm also still not a huge fan of the metal watch. I know that a lot of people do like the new look, but I think it's just trying a little bit too hard. I'm also, they've got that four tile interface, which is good in theory, but in practice, at the end of the day, at one point, I just want a nice, big, cool looking. So a couple things there. For the, regardless of the four tile interface, that's their current interface, which they are loading on, they're showing their new design with the current interface. They say by the time the new design actually hits stores, they will have a revamped interface. So that's going to change. But I think what you're saying about the metal watch, and it's like, hey, it's not my style, that's speaking to the core issue of smart watches in general, is that if you look at the traditional watch market, there are hundreds of companies and thousands of different designs, because the watch that I like might not be the watch that Evan likes, not the watch that Dieter likes, or the watch that Vlad likes. But when you have these smart watches that are essentially a homogenous design, that doesn't necessarily work for everybody. So I'm with you. There should be lots of different kinds of smart watches. They should look all kinds of crazy different ways, and you should be allowed to wear them wherever you want, and whatever outfit you've got. I don't think we're in a smart watch prohibition. Well, it's possible. I would like to institute one, but we'll see. But the problem with that is if you're going to have that wide a variety of smart watches, all of those different companies are not capable of making the software not suck, and are not capable of pulling off the technology. And so we need, I mean, it's me, so of course I want everybody to sing Kumbaya and form a standard together. So when you think about analog watches, the standard is the hands. That's a standard way to tell time that every single analog watch sold everywhere uses. And there's some unique Tokyo concepts or whatever that brand is that makes those really weird watches that are really hard to tell the time on. But for the most part, you look at a watch from one company, you can read the watch from the other company. It would be great if smart watches had the same concept, they just vary their design. What I'm saying is like, Google, Google, Google, where am I looking? Right there. Google. Google. Google. Just buy Pebble open source software. No. Yes. And then everybody can use Pebble software. No, because then there's the Google Plus on there and it would be disgusting. No, Google. Okay, not Google. Apple. Which camera am I looking at? Don't do it Google, please. Please. Somebody just. No, thank you Google. It's okay. We need the software to be handled by somebody who knows what they're doing. Right. But yes, yes, absolutely. And you know, this is the thing. I now have the confidence that Pebble are that kind of company. Yeah, but there's no way that Pebble can make the wide variety of watches that I want to buy. Of course. Right now. Oh yeah, they're going to be a mass empire. A Pebble empire. So I think, what if Pebble licensed its software to other makers? Sure. So I think in the conversation of smart watches, the first instinct is to compare them to the litany of regular analog and digital watches that are out there. Like you're saying, there's a huge variety out there. But for me, for example, I don't wear a watch. I haven't worn a watch since I was in high school. Kids these days. Even that one was stupid. When you were a child, you did childish things, now that you're a man, you've given up watches. Put a watch on. Put a watch on, boy. You know, a lot of people I know don't wear watches at all. They never have. They're not interested in watches. Uh-huh. And I think really the smart watch... You do wear a wristband party rave ticket. You do have wrist accessories. I went to a concert or a club. This is a CES exhibitor patch. But I mean, I think... He's been exhibiting his pecs. Yeah. I mean, that's... I mean, there's always going to be that segment that doesn't wear watches. And the same thing that's always happening with... That's their game, though. It's going to be very hard for them to convince somebody who's been wearing a watch forever to move from a very high-quality analog or digital watch to a smart watch. But for people that have never worn watches, I think that sell is a lot easier. Yeah. Maybe. I'd take the point. It's an interesting... And you know what else? That is very much the case... When I first started writing about technology, I was still using a feature phone. I had a Sony Ericsson W810i, I think, which I really loved. Oh, man. It pays me to hear you denigrate that as a feature phone. It's an amazing phone. It's a brilliant phone. And it also lasted a good five or six days. Particularly if you're not terribly popular and you don't have to handle a bunch of calls, it just lasts. It was the Nokia age, right? So she had a T for Nokia, now dead, buried by Microsoft. Anyway... I really hope they squeeze that in. The situation then was, for me... You had a struggle to convince me to switch to a smartphone because smartphones just died. It was like one, two days, gone. I didn't have any struggle switching to a smartphone. I accepted the most painful experiences just to have the internet. Because he's saying... what he's saying is absolutely true. It was a trio. Which one? The 615. Oh, God. So young. I know. Right. I'm a much more of a late adopter than you guys. And to Evan's point, the usual watch wearer today is used to a battery life that is measured in years. If measured at all, right? Because you have automatic watches as well. They just don't worry about battery life. And that was me with my feature phone. I was like, I'm not going to worry about battery life for half a week. So that's why the most exciting concept thing I saw at CES was Intel's charging bowl. It's a bowl. I did not see this. Yeah, they had it in their keynote. It was... You know, you had the wireless charging pads or whatever. This was just a bowl. So you could just throw junk in it and it would charge everything in the bowl. And so, you know, for a phone, you don't want it in a bowl or whatever. But like, if we're going to live in a wearable age to have them all wirelessly charged and like get home and like throw your watch in there, throw your earrings in there, throw your whatever you got in there. That's a pretty dope idea. I'm with that idea. Because I throw my keys in a bowl every day when I get home. But D-D is really working hard to be in that super car today. Come on. I was not. Also like... Is that bowl a real thing? Yes. Well, I mean, they showed it off. Okay. Who knows? You never know with CES. You never know. Intel especially. There is a valid point. No, that's not fair. We had Frank Niuovo in the studio and we spoke with him today. And he was talking about that whole making technology relatable to people and not making it hard, you know, softening it a little bit with design. And I think that's exactly it. Like if you just gave people a flat wireless charger, that's technology to them, right? But if you give them a bowl, it's natural. It's like I'm throwing my keys in there. I arrive. I'm just putting my things into that thing. And it just so happens to be revitalizing and refreshing my technology. It just feels so much more natural. You know, it's like your mind just understands. It's like a spa for my gadgets. No, but seriously, the way that people think is through stories. Yeah, yeah. I hope that's what they call it. It's narrative. The gadget spa. The gadget spa. I like that. I'm just trolling you back for trolling me. We got to talk about these, the insane things that would happen to service plans. Yeah. These carriers just pretty much went nuts. Because everyone except for Verizon. So AT&T kicked it off and they announced that they are doing the sponsored data thing where they will partner with companies. They destroyed internet neutrality. They took net neutrality. They took it out back, shot it in the back of the head. Yeah, and then they lit some puppies on fire. It's just bad. Net neutrality puppies. Net neutrality puppies. If you don't understand how the internet works, it's not a series of tubes. It's puppies. They run the information. There's free range happy puppies and there's cage sad puppies that have been lit on fire. Yeah, there's AT&T puppy mill puppies. AT&T took the happy puppies and put them in a cage and lit them on fire. That is what sponsored data is. Also it makes your wireless plan cheaper because other companies can pay for your data instead of paying for it yourself. Right, so the concept is if a company wants to say promote a particular trailer for their movie, they can deliver it to your phone and the data that's used by that trailer does not come out of your data cap. Or if AT&T wants to pay for your data on maps, then that one is free to use and Google Maps sucks. It sucks because you have to pay for the data for that. So we've railed about this on the website, so I don't really see that we need to get too far into this other than to say that it's one of these things that sounds great but is a creeping thing that hurts the internet. I don't know to who it sounds great. I think it sounds great to consumers. If I could get Spotify and I know that Spotify is paying for my data and it's never going to count against my data cap, that's awesome. That means that I could maybe eventually pay for a smaller data amount from AT&T. And HD movies are pretty much impossible. I never stream movies over LTE, but if Netflix were paying the charges, I would do that all the time. That's awesome. Until the internet is ruined because of bird puppies. It puts the ball in AT&T's court to really pick winners and losers. That's a huge problem. It stifles... I know it's been talked about in the Verge cast to death, but it's just gross. After AT&T lost its mind or just continued to do what it normally does... This is like an escalating level of crazy... Sprint. This crazy level falls while the crazy level rises. We started at evil and kind of crazy with AT&T. Now we're in the middle of Sprint. Let's hear what's going on. This announcement happened and it kind of just got blown over by CES. I don't think many people realized what happened. Sprint announced these new plans called Framily Plans. I actually thought that was a typo. Everyone thought it was a typo. We actually got a scoop on this and the tipster tells us in the email, please read this. It's not a typo. The name of the plan is Family and Friends Together. There's your Framily. Framily and Friends. That sounds incestuous. The concept of it is you have a Sprint account and you have your data and your voice and your text. As you add more lines to it, your bill goes down. Every person that you add, up to seven people, your bill goes down by $5 per month. It's a pyramid scheme. Anyway, it's wireless service. The only thing that I'll say that's different than it's a period scheme is that everybody in it gets the same benefit. Because with a pyramid scheme, the person that starts it gets the most benefit and it falls down the ladder. It's like a suicide cult. Everybody gets together and everybody benefits. It's a suicide cult because everyone has to use Sprint. Also, it's called Framily. Could you imagine having to call the rep and say, could I please have the Framily plan? I'd like to be part of your family. I would be too embarrassed to ask. Can I be part of your family? Oh my god. I really want to be part of your family. But what this really is... You want to say five bucks? You want to be part of my family? Yeah, get in on my family. Hey girl, you want to join my family? So these are new contracts? So that's the important point. I'm good. And that's not... Want to join my family? I'm roaming internationally. I don't need to Framily. So Evan brings up an important point. This is actually Sprint's play following AT&T and T-Mobile to decouple the contract from the subsidy. Because these plans are not contracts. You have to buy your own phone and bring it. You can do Sprint's zero down payment plan. I can't remember what they call it. But once that's paid off, you're not paying any more for your family plan. But it is just insanity that they're calling it the Framily plan. It's really interesting that they're doing that. Because Sprint, their advertising is promoting a message of the low cost alternative. They're always offering the value. That's all they've got. It is all they've got. But shifting to this model where you do have to buy your own phone. I know that there are financing options available, but it is a divergence. If you want a high end smartphone on Sprint, if you're not on a contract, I'm not sure why. Well, anyone with a brain would buy the Nexus 5. Because it is available on Sprint. It's $350. An iPhone is going to be what Evan's saying, $650, $750. If it takes you more than a half an hour, and a half an hour is super generous, but it takes you more than a half an hour to decide if a plan is a good value for you or to figure out what plan you want on a certain carrier. Things are broken. And things are broken so far everywhere. Left and right. This is exactly what I had. Every single gimmick that every single one of these carriers have been introducing over the past six months in their reaction to T-Mobile, and we're going to get to that crazy instant of T-Mobile, is driving me nuts. And I give T-Mobile credit for forcing some simplification on their stuff and forcing everybody else to start reacting. But they're reacting like crazy people. And T-Mobile stuff isn't exactly the simplest thing out there, but it's moving in the right direction. And man, the fact that I had to sit here live on the internet and say the word Framily and it actually meant something, I hate the world. Right. But you know, my thought exactly was, I came across an AT&T ad on television, which I have to say American television is completely insufferable. I don't know how you guys live. You just don't get it. You've got great TV here. What are you talking about? I'm sorry? You've got great TV here. In your opinion. We can just agree to disagree. I'm sure that there are lots and lots of series as good as Breaking Bad coming out of- Bulgaria. Yeah. I wasn't going to go straight for Bulgaria. I was going to go for London, but then you've got Sherlock, and so that would have been stupid. It's true. Yeah. And I'm missing that. I haven't watched anything new. Anyhow, I'm sure there'll be spoilers in the comments. Yeah, thanks a lot guys. People love us that much. 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No. I actually wanted one more no as a new sentence, but I got rejected, which is a bummer. So T-Mobile says it's going to fix all this garbage. Oh yeah, to review, AT&T, relatively high degree of evil, relatively low degree of crazy sprint, kind of meet in the middle. And now we're moving on to T-Mobile. If you're wondering where Verizon is in this equation, it's over there. Just AT&T, but double it. I'm off the screen. It's busy scheming for Spectrum. T-Mobile has this big press event here at CES. CEO John Legere has pretty much been off the rails all week. First he tries to crash AT&T's party. He does successfully crash it, and he gets kicked out by security. Such a stunt. Which is such a stunt. He claims he wanted to see the good old Macklemore. That's how you know that it was a lie. That's how you know it was fake. I just wanted to see Macklemore. I didn't think it would be inappropriate. Two days later, he gets on stage. Words that never should come out of anybody's mouth. Two days later, they have this press event, which has a lot of Macklemore playing. He gets on stage here now. It's on Carrier 4. And T-Mobile reveals that it's going to buy out your ETF if you switch over. So if you are on contract with AT&T or whatever other carrier, and it's going to cost you money to cancel your plan to come to T-Mobile, T-Mobile is offering to pay you. They'll pay that fee for you as long as you trade in your phone when you come over. Up to $350 a line, up to five lines? So yeah, up to five lines, $350 per line. And then if your phone is actually worth something, like say you've got an iPhone 5S on AT&T, they'll give you up to $300 for that. If you sell it to them. You have to trade it in to get them to pay your ETF. You have to trade in your phone. Why? That's part of the deal, man. That's stupid. Like there's plenty of phones on AT&T that work just fine on T-Mobile. Why would I have to trade in my phone? Well, the reason you'd have to trade in your phone is because of the SIM lock. But I thought we were past that. So what if I have an unlocked phone? So they can, there's an opportunity to pay you up to $650 per line for transferring over to AT&T Mobile, which is a pretty big deal. Yeah, his schtick was like, you can like, since AT&T is also paying people to switch over to them, like you could switch over to T-Mobile, have T-Mobile pay for it, if you don't like it, switch back and you'll end up making money in it or something. Yeah, so like if you, you could, you could, you can switch over to T-Mobile, get your ETF canceled and have that credit paid for, try it out because you're not under contract with T-Mobile now. Try it out for a couple months. If it doesn't work, go take AT&T's offer to switch back to AT&T where they'll give you $200 per person. Well, the party line is though, is that, you know, you're going to enjoy it so much while you're there that, you know, that you're going to stay. I mean, unless you live outside of a major, major area. If you leave the city- Then you're in a world of hurt. Do you understand exactly how all these, these details work, Dan? I think I do. You know why? Why? Because you don't have a life. Yes, it's true. I spent my life trying to decipher T-Mobile's plans and now I do not have a life. Ah, the CEO of T-Mobile. So I will have to say, hang on, the people might not know, the CEO of T-Mobile told Dan to his face, he doesn't have a life in response to a question, a legitimate question about the quality of their service outside of urban areas. So let me set this up because, you know, T-Mobile, if you've been following their press events, manager always gets on stage and says a bunch of stuff that gets a lot of headlines. By a bunch of stuff he means- He calls the other guys peckers, he drops F-bombs, he says shit a lot. They like horse shit, they like to say that a lot. He likes to say horse shit a lot, he makes fun of other CEOs' physical appearance, which, you know, personally I don't agree with that. Glass houses? That was a really, yeah, glass houses, man. I mean, that's a really low blow. I mean, make fun of, poke fun all you want at the business practice and things like that. Our image is quite fizzy right now. But, you know. Wow. We're just keeping that up. They've got him up on the monitor. So he's doing his usual shtick at this. He's dropping F-bombs. Oh no. He is insulting the industry. This is a nightmare. He is doing, this is, the thing is, this is a character that he's built up and now he's in this character. So, it comes time to Q&A at the end of the session and I ask the obvious question. You guys are talking, oh, not only do they announce these new plans, but they also are making, staking a claim that they are the fastest network in the US based on data from the speed test app that- That's an AT&T assist letter. On your smartphone. Yeah. So, they're making all these claims that they are the fastest network in all these various cities. And, you know, I asked, what about outside of a big city? Because if you're in a suburban area, if you're in a rural area, you guys do not have the footprint that the other guys have. And how are you going to fix that and what's your response? And his response to me was, you don't have a life, man. But then he said neither do I. He said neither do I because he seemed, like, that is kind of a bit of a dick move to do. To say to somebody's face. And then he proceeded to walk around my question. And then their CTO said some stuff, like, they've got some new spectrum that they're going to start using. So, they have some spectrum. There's a chance. They just bought $3 billion worth of spectrum from Verizon. They will not be getting that spectrum until the middle of this year. By the time they roll it out and deploy it, it's going to be well into 2015. The other problem is that they made a big point of taking down Verizon's recent network expansion because they said that if you don't have a recent Verizon phone, it's not compatible with that network. Well, guess what? When they launched this low band spectrum that they just bought from Verizon, if you don't have a recent T-Mobile phone that's compatible with that, it's not going to work. So they're going to be in the same boat. But I think this whole thing that T-Mobile does is a big kind of a bit of a clouding the details, but shouting out these loud points that they want everybody to know. They're picking up customers. And that's their marketing campaign. And they're these big loud press events. John Ledger is a marketing tool for the company. Level of evil, low, but level of like crazy, a little bit too high in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I think they obfuscate a lot of the details. And I think that it's great that there's no contract and that you can try it out because you might buy a phone and take it home and it might not work for you. And that's a frequent thing that I hear a lot from readers. I experienced it myself in my home. T-Mobile has terrible service and I've got great service from AT&T and Verizon. And obviously that varies where you live. You have a life. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean to make you so mad. I just, I mean, it's easy to fall into the like, yeah, they're for the people, man. This is the uncarrier. This is like, they are changing things. They're fixing this and they are, and I'll give them credit. They're doing a lot of good things. They should swing by and get on the mobile show. Well, we got a chair right here. Obfuscate a lot of the details. And yes, John Ledger, come on. We'd love to have you come down. Talk on the mobile show. Talk with us. We'd love to have a chat. Tell us how this is not obfuscation. Honestly, this almost sounds like Boxer saying, I'd love to hang out with you. I'd love to hang out with you. Bring it on, man. Yeah, bring it on. Come over here. We're going to have a conversation. You and I, you and I. All right, John Ledger, you and I are here on the stage, which is getting torn down in about 30 minutes. We've got 29 minutes to get over here. So we're going to have a conversation right now. But wait, you said you had no signal at home. That's Kentucky, right? Yeah. There we go. John Ledger, Kentucky, take care of it. And Brooklyn, actually. I tried to switch. Upstate New York. And you know, anywhere outside of the major metro. But okay, but setting aside the crazy from carriers, let's talk about the crazy from hardware manufacturers. Because we had one guy who sounded crazy. He's not crazy, but he sounded crazy. He's a little crazy. And that was John Le Chie from Asus. Oh, man. Oh, man. He's bringing the pad phone to the United States at long last, after many, many dozens of demands on Facebook saying bring us a pad phone to the United States. I kind of think it... Here's what cracks me up about the pad phone. This is the Pad Phone X is coming to AT&T. It's the first pad phone sold in the US. The first Asus phone I could think of being carried by a major manufacturer, in recent years at least. And it's a five inch phone that slots into a nine inch tablet. And if you are familiar with the pad phone concept, that's what it is. What cracks me up though... No, no, that's the Pad Phone X. What cracks me up is that as these pad phones have gone along the line in development, this is now the third or fourth generation of them. Six. The phone... They make a new one when you're not looking. They don't change the name. And so you're like, oh, there's a pad phone. Every time the phone gets bigger and the tablet part gets smaller. So we're going to come to this point where the tablet will be smaller, the phone will be the exact same size as the phone, and they'll slot into each other. It's going to dock a seven inch phone into a seven inch tablet. And there will be a screen on it. I got to say, this show is all about inflection points. We're all about conversion and inflection points. So that's coming to the AT&T. I can tell you exactly how that's going to go down. AT&T announced it on stage at its developer event. I think AT&T has fulfilled its commitment to promote the Pad Phone X and will never forget to get the check. But actually the big news is that HTC is coming to the US in fours. Now they're really bringing a whole bunch of devices and most of the devices they're going to hope to sell are the Zen phones. But where are those going to be carried though? What kind of storage are they going to walk into? I think the Zen phones look not that exciting. So they don't look that exciting, but they are really affordable. And so is the Moto G. Can we take turns to just announce their pricing? I don't know how to top that. Should we do that? I mean, do we have the energy? Because I don't think we're allowed to announce the pricing in any way other than the way Johnny Sheese has it. Which is that the Zen Phone 4 will be available at 99 US dollars. And then the Zen Phone 5 will be available at 149. And the Zen Phone 6 is at 199 I believe. Anyhow, from 99 to 249, Asus has a phone for you. And Johnny Sheese has a yelling price point to tell you. And there's also the Padfone Mini, which is somewhere around four inches and sorts into a seven inch tablet. And amusingly, when Asus was doing this round up teaser video for all of these new phones, a lady took the Padfone Mini, slid it into a seven inch tablet, and just carried on her conversation. And it's a big fat seven inch tablet. It's amazing. It's like- Maybe she was running out of batteries. Yeah, that could be- That must be the case, right? So there you go. That just basically tells you that it's clearly better and superior to the iPhone. I really just, I don't know where this market is at. I think the Padfone concept was really radical when they first announced it. And it was like, wow, I can use one data SIM and I can use it in my phone, I can use it in a tablet, and I can use it in a laptop-like device. Because that one had a laptop dock. That was like back in the days of the Atrix though. The execution was so bad because the phone's processor at the time wasn't powerful enough to push a tablet. Tablet Android software back then was kind of abysmal. And the dock, I hate to say it, but Android doesn't work that well with a mouse and keyboard. So there's that idea, and I think they're trying to hold onto that idea and move with the times as Android tablet software has gotten better, phones have gotten bigger, and things like that. So is this better than carrying a good smartphone and a Nexus 7 or an iPad mini? Probably not, but that's the whole point. All I'm going to say is that with Asus, you get a lot of technology for your money. That's the one thing you can't deny. Actually what else happened that we need to handle? So Nvidia announced a new processor, it's got a whole bunch of cores in it. It's probably not going to be as good as the next processor that Qualcomm announced. I don't have time to talk about it. I can talk about Nvidia, just briefly. Okay, do it, fast. It'd be awesome. First of all, it has 192 cores of confusion. Cores of confusion is like... So if they give up to the claim that it is as good as last generation consoles, that's like legitimately exciting. And if it lasts more than 10 minutes on a battery, that's also legitimately exciting. I would agree with that. They're conflating the graphics processor cores with just general purpose cores, which is just not true. But if they're delivering a mobile product like an SoC, they can deliver last gen graphics, that's great. It's not last gen, but that's the whole point. The point is that they're bringing modern graphics in. So it's based on Kepler, right? Here's the thing that always happens to Nvidia. They beat everyone else to the market with these high powered processors, and then two or three months later, Qualcomm drops its next generation processor that is so much better and everyone forgets Nvidia exists in mobile. It's not always that much more powerful, but it's actually viable in a mobile device in terms of power and works with LTE. But generally in my experience when I'm comparing an Nvidia device to a Qualcomm device, the Qualcomm device is faster, snappier, more pleasant to use. But you see what Nvidia is doing is trying to play in a different playing field. It's essentially... Because I spoke with those guys after their presentation, and it really rather clarified the whole situation for me. Nvidia isn't trying to compete with all the other mobile chip makers. It's essentially trying to trickle down a PC part into the mobile space. What are they trying to do? Trickle down. But what are they trickling it to? Don't they need to sell stuff to people? That's the point. But hang on a second. They're trying to do something really quite ambitious, and I think it has viability with this K1 chip, because this is based on the K-Pro graphics, the K-Pro graphics core, which is already in the desktop graphics cards. And the point that they make, and this is something for developers and Nvidia to know, not for me to judge yet, but the point that they make is it's very easy to port a game from PC or console to the Tegra K1. Oh, so that's the thing. The Tegra chips actually support true OpenGL. And that is not OpenGL ES, but actual OpenGL that's used in desktop games. And that's a huge deal. Qualcomm does not have that. Are any games written for that? No. But the question is, does that... But you can make something with that. I'm with you. The chip is legitimately awesome. I will grant that and assume that, and I'll even grant that it's okay. But is that what sells chips anymore? Is that what sells devices anymore? Is it really? This is the point. When you had the Tegra 4, you had a more powerful chip than the other guys, but you had a big hurdle for developers to make games, and they had to code specifically for it in order to harness its power. And nobody was coding for it because nobody was buying the device. I'm granting all of this to you. I'm granting all this to you, but my question is, I don't care what chip is in the phone. But that's the point. You will start caring if there's games specifically for that chip. But is the thing that is most likely... When I'm a phone manufacturer or tablet manufacturer, am I most likely to pick the graphics chip or the chip that is power efficient and gets me LTE and is cheap? Because the cheap stuff is really close to good enough. Yeah, yeah. But that's the point. I think Nvidia wants to deliver experiences that the other guys just aren't interested in delivering. Right. Yeah, yeah. And all 15 of their customers are gonna be super pumped. Yeah. Yeah. For all those cars. Give me a moment. I need 10 seconds. Okay. You get 10 seconds and we gotta wrap up. But the point is Nvidia is trying to be high-end, is trying to be niche. But with this K1, with the lower threshold for porting games from PCs and consoles, it actually has a chance to succeed at that. A chance that it didn't really have with Tegra 4. Okay. So it's a more positive outlook. Yeah. That's all. I am... I'm wrapped. I am tentatively coming closer to your side of the thing. I want to believe that you're right. But I just... Still a lot to get it. I've seen Nvidia get beat up so much and go the wrong path for the past few years that I worry that it's happening again. I need to see them prove that they can sell stuff with the stuff in it. I agree. Yeah. Well, on that note, thank you for watching The Verge Mobile Show. If you'd like to follow us on Twitter, you can and you should. We're all at Verge, but individually, I am Backlund. Dan is DC Seifert. Vlad is Vlad Sabov. Evan is Evan R. Rogers. Just Evan Rogers. Just Evan Rogers. Why do I think there's an R there? Pretty sure we could start over here. Oh, it's okay. It's okay. There's a D in it. That's the thing. There's a D in it. Oh, after the G. Yeah. Right. Number 40G. Yes. Well, thank you for watching, and we'll catch you next week, week after. I don't know. It's CES. Who knows what day it is anymore? It's like, what? Saturn? I don't know. All right. Goodnight, everybody. When you need me. Thanks for teaching me how to speak at school. See you later. | [
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"text": " Have you guys noticed my microphone's on the other side now?"
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"text": " Okay, so same build quality?"
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"text": " Okay, what's the story?"
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"text": " They had some cool cutouts of like the aluminum extrusions that they make them out of."
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"text": " You've been talking about wanting a great 4.5 inch phone for years."
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"text": " If they will sell me one, if I could buy it with my money, I would throw down right now."
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"text": " They announced it here at CES, which is, it's called the International CES, but it's mostly"
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"text": " Vlad can buy one."
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"text": " Come on."
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"text": " And then it has control buttons, so you can do Control C, Control V, which is kind of"
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"text": " Our producer, Jordan Oplinger, Oplinger or Oplinger?"
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"text": " Yeah, that is undeniable."
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"text": " Well, he did ask us to make definitive statements about CES, and I noticed Dieter dropping one"
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"text": " All right."
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"text": " Mine is that if there is a theme to CES this year, it's that it's full of things that people"
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"text": " Because these Samsung tablets, a great example of that, and we've been discussing this in"
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"text": " Because everywhere I go, there are these Android-y smart watches slash fitness trackers slash"
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"text": " pedometers slash things that don't really work."
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"text": " seeing the orange Pebble that I'm wearing on my wrist right now, this is embarrassing."
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"text": " You know what?"
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"text": " My girlfriend told me she loves me less when I wear it."
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"text": " My take on it is, if it was not a Pebble, if it was a regular analog watch, I would"
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"text": " It is a Pebble, and it does this fun stuff that I like what my Pebble does, but it looks"
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"text": " It's the same thing as last year."
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"text": " It's way faster with this new OS, though."
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"text": " Which the old one will get."
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"text": " And they sold how many of these Pebbles?"
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"text": " The new one is the high box Mars 250."
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"text": " Yeah, that's pretty rough."
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"text": " Yeah, no one's a fan of that."
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"text": " No one's a fan of the branding, but what can you do?"
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"text": " I didn't think it was too noticeable on the dark gray metal one."
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"text": " Which one did you buy, Dieter?"
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"text": " The dark gray metal one."
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"text": " Yeah, I think the dark gray is the way to go."
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"text": " That way, in dim lighting, the whole thing will just be a flat sheet of unreadable plastic"
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"text": " Is it really?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I've got an old way to find out these."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " And the old Pebble is still going to stick around."
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"text": " Now it's the entry-level sporting model."
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"text": " Don't get me wrong."
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"text": " at the end of the day, at one point, I just want a nice, big, cool looking."
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"text": " For the, regardless of the four tile interface, that's their current interface, which they"
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"text": " are loading on, they're showing their new design with the current interface."
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"text": " because the watch that I like might not be the watch that Evan likes, not the watch that"
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"text": " They should look all kinds of crazy different ways, and you should be allowed to wear them"
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"text": " wherever you want, and whatever outfit you've got."
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"text": " I don't think we're in a smart watch prohibition."
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"text": " Well, it's possible."
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"text": " all of those different companies are not capable of making the software not suck, and are not"
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"text": " capable of pulling off the technology."
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"text": " And so we need, I mean, it's me, so of course I want everybody to sing Kumbaya and form"
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"text": " So when you think about analog watches, the standard is the hands."
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"text": " That's a standard way to tell time that every single analog watch sold everywhere uses."
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"text": " And there's some unique Tokyo concepts or whatever that brand is that makes those really"
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"text": " weird watches that are really hard to tell the time on."
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"text": " But for the most part, you look at a watch from one company, you can read the watch from"
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"text": " It would be great if smart watches had the same concept, they just vary their design."
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"text": " What I'm saying is like, Google, Google, Google, where am I looking?"
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{
"start": 1613.88,
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"text": " Right there."
},
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"text": " Google."
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"start": 1615.88,
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"text": " Google."
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{
"start": 1616.88,
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"text": " Google."
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{
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"text": " Just buy Pebble open source software."
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"text": " No."
},
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"text": " Yes."
},
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"text": " And then everybody can use Pebble software."
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"text": " No, because then there's the Google Plus on there and it would be disgusting."
},
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"text": " No, Google."
},
{
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"text": " Okay, not Google."
},
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"text": " Apple."
},
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"text": " Which camera am I looking at?"
},
{
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"text": " Don't do it Google, please."
},
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"text": " Please."
},
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"text": " Somebody just."
},
{
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"text": " No, thank you Google."
},
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"text": " It's okay."
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"text": " We need the software to be handled by somebody who knows what they're doing."
},
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " But yes, yes, absolutely."
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"text": " And you know, this is the thing."
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"text": " I now have the confidence that Pebble are that kind of company."
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"text": " Yeah, but there's no way that Pebble can make the wide variety of watches that I want to"
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"text": " Of course."
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"text": " Right now."
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"text": " Oh yeah, they're going to be a mass empire."
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"text": " A Pebble empire."
},
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"text": " So I think, what if Pebble licensed its software to other makers?"
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"text": " Sure."
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"text": " So I think in the conversation of smart watches, the first instinct is to compare them to the"
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"text": " Like you're saying, there's a huge variety out there."
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"text": " But for me, for example, I don't wear a watch."
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"text": " I haven't worn a watch since I was in high school."
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"text": " Kids these days."
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"text": " Even that one was stupid."
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"text": " When you were a child, you did childish things, now that you're a man, you've given up watches."
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"text": " Put a watch on."
},
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"text": " Put a watch on, boy."
},
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"text": " You know, a lot of people I know don't wear watches at all."
},
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"text": " They never have."
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"text": " They're not interested in watches."
},
{
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"text": " Uh-huh."
},
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"text": " And I think really the smart watch..."
},
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"text": " You do wear a wristband party rave ticket."
},
{
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"text": " You do have wrist accessories."
},
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"text": " I went to a concert or a club."
},
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"text": " This is a CES exhibitor patch."
},
{
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"text": " But I mean, I think..."
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"text": " He's been exhibiting his pecs."
},
{
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " I mean, that's..."
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"text": " And man, the fact that I had to sit here live on the internet and say the word Framily and"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " I'm sorry?"
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"text": " It's true."
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"text": " And I'm missing that."
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"text": " I haven't watched anything new."
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"text": " Yeah, thanks a lot guys."
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"text": " And they're like, it's not complicated."
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"text": " And you know what?"
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"text": " Yes, these guys are crazy, but they're kind of that Homer Simpson, crazy like a fox."
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"text": " Intentional osmosis."
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"text": " By the way, this is the best sub-headline on an article we've ever published on The"
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"text": " If you're wondering where Verizon is in this equation, it's over there."
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"text": " It's busy scheming for Spectrum."
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"text": " It's on Carrier 4."
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"text": " Why?"
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"text": " don't like it, switch back and you'll end up making money in it or something."
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"text": " Yeah, so like if you, you could, you could, you can switch over to T-Mobile, get your"
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"text": " Try it out for a couple months."
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"text": " Well, the party line is though, is that, you know, you're going to enjoy it so much while"
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"text": " Do you understand exactly how all these, these details work, Dan?"
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"text": " I think I do."
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"text": " You know why?"
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"text": " Why?"
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"text": " Because you don't have a life."
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"text": " Yes, it's true."
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"text": " you know, personally I don't agree with that."
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"text": " Glass houses?"
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"text": " That was a really, yeah, glass houses, man."
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"text": " Our image is quite fizzy right now."
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"text": " He is insulting the industry."
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"text": " He is doing, this is, the thing is, this is a character that he's built up and now he's"
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"text": " So, it comes time to Q&A at the end of the session and I ask the obvious question."
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"text": " You guys are talking, oh, not only do they announce these new plans, but they also are"
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"text": " making, staking a claim that they are the fastest network in the US based on data from"
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"text": " the speed test app that-"
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"text": " That's an AT&T assist letter."
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"text": " On your smartphone."
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"text": " For all those cars."
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47-WczqQ_y8 | I'm Dan Seifer with The Verge. I'm Vlad Sevov, also with The Verge. We're sitting here with Frank Nuovo, who is actually the head of design behind the new MetaWatch Meta. Formerly of Verge Smartphones, which you had a long, illustrious career there. So, Frank, thank you for joining us today. Great to be here, Dan. Vlad, thanks for inviting me. It's a pleasure. Yeah, so here at CES, MetaWatch is launching a brand new branding and design ethos, and kind of a new identity for the company. Absolutely. And you had a big part of that. Yes. But before we get to that, I wanted to talk about how you got to MetaWatch. Maybe just briefly cover, you know, you spent a long time at Vertu. You built the brand, you built the company there, you built lots of different smartphones and were head of design there. Absolutely. And how does that take us to where you're bringing the smartwatch today? Well, in a nutshell, which is usually difficult for me to do, but I'll try. It really started back at Nokia. So, I was chief of design at Nokia, actually starting designing phones and technology for Nokia back in 1989. But as chief of design at Nokia, we explored and brought technology and fashion together. And it was really one of my main missions, was to take this in a friendly way to the people, technology that is. But the next step was luxury. So, we launched Vertu in 2002 after several years of R&D, figuring out how to use materials like stainless steel and titanium and leather and sapphire because it didn't scratch. Not because it was precious, but because it didn't scratch, like it had been on watches for many years previously. So, in 2012, some complicated things happened and Vertu was sold and I made a decision that I would, in a very friendly way, move on and do other things. And Bill Geiser, wonderful Bill Geiser, the CEO of Metawatch at the time, came to me and asked if I would join and work with him. And so, that's where that story started or ended up. So, as an independent design studio in Nuovo and myself, I work with Bill to develop all aspects of product and brand and marketing of what is now called Meta. And just something that you mentioned to us earlier, part of the foundation for Vertu was about doing the ultimate, irrespective of pricing. Absolutely. It wasn't so much about luxury and gaudy things, but it was about just making the best that you can do with the materials that are available. So, how much of that has translated to your approach with Meta now? So, hearkening back to traditional watch designs and movements that are usually on the inside, I wanted to bring that to the outside, something tangible, something visible that you could see and feel. And the first thing that I do when I show the watch is I place it on someone's wrist and I ask, how does it feel? And they say, hey, this feels great. And I could talk about that for probably 10 minutes before we even get into the test. And also, I should point out the fact that having armatures just by itself is a great feature. Precisely, yes. And really, the thing that you're pointing out, the fact that you're looking at a flat piece of technology, is also the thing that the Pebble Steel, the brand new watch there, is addressing as well. They're tackling the exact same issue, the fact that the original Pebble was too long for a whole bunch of people. And they're taking the lug to lug distance and shorting it. So, what you're doing is you're immediately addressing that exact same issue with your new model. Yeah, we're starting with, you can wear this, whether it's an analog watch or it's a digital smart watch, it doesn't really matter. If you want it on your wrist, that's the first gate to open. And that's what we're trying to do. And then we can talk about the tech. So, do you think we're ever going to see a time when a MetaWatch maybe has a camera, or can you talk to it and carry on the conversation? I think it's inevitable that when the technology doesn't compromise the experience in the way of wearability and management, then all of that can be. But if this has to grow by 20% to put a camera in it, and if we go, right now we have about a week of functionality between charges, if this moves down to two days or three days because we've added color and all kinds of bells and whistles, then the experience is compromised. There are other products that people have out there, wonderful products, competitors, I guess, in various different ways, but we see ourselves more as a watch plus than a strap-on phone or a computer on your wrist. I just wanted to briefly talk on, you mentioned to us earlier that the design that you've come up with for the Meta allows you to use a variety of different materials and uniqueness to it. Can you just briefly talk about how that kind of speaks to how watches are perceived by people? It's more of a personal object, right? It's all about creating icons, design icons or products that people can look at from across the room and recognize. I wanted to create a new potential icon, and I say that with respect to if it's around in ten years the way it is, then it becomes one, but you aim, you aspire to create, I say humbly, a new icon, and at least an icon for the brand. And so in creating Meta, the armatures and the changeable armatures are something that can be varied for the next ten years. They could be ceramic, stainless steel, polished against matte, and price point-wise, we could achieve beautifully made plastic and rubber band combinations in various bright colors. So you could achieve so much with one form factor. This design doesn't need to change at all for the next ten years, and we can do a thousand different variations. So in a few months we'll be able to get some of these on our own wrists, right? Actually, as usual with most CES products, they're showing what's next, and these are just prototypes. Various aspects are functional, some aren't, but we're moving very quickly. In the spring, we're not launching when exactly, but we'll have the line. So Frank, just as a designer, we can't let you go without asking you a couple of extra design questions. Go for it. The Meta, as far as I'm concerned, is very close to the Pebble in terms of the competition. So I was wondering, what are your thoughts on the original Pebble and the new steel model? How do you feel about them? Well, let me start by saying that Metawatch was around a long time before Pebble. And this is quite an interesting thing, and it's a frustration that Bill and Dave had been working on Metawatch at Fossil several years ago. He contacted me back in 2010. But it's interesting how the word gets out today through various channels, and it becomes like, oh, it started with Pebble. That's not the case. In fact, Metawatch, through Fossil, has had this technology out there in its earlier form for years. So I'd have to say that they were looking at what Bill was doing and decided to do it their way. With respect to Pebble and all of the buzz that's happened about them, it's actually something that Bill and Dave, we're doing it our way, so we have our way of taking all of those applications and allowing notifications to come through and remote controlling and all of that. But the core of this is that Metawatch was around for quite a long time. And so I love the fact that Pebble is there because it creates a marketplace. And there's no fear of competition. There actually has to be a great handshake and a hug, in my view. I look forward to their designs to attract certain people to their aesthetic. We're working on our own. And it's really one happy family. We're creating a new marketplace. And actually, Bill is a very open guy. When Pebble came out, his words were like, fantastic. Somebody else is in this game doing it in this way. And let's just all work together and create this movement. So we embrace it. But I do want to keep saying that Bill and Dave were out there with us for years before Pebble even decided to do a Kickstarter campaign, wasn't it? That's right. But it's amazing. They got so much attention through that. It's fascinating how things come out today. And finally, since most of your career has been spent designing and crafting smartphones, how do you feel about the present crop of devices that we have? Wow, that's a broad question. I feel that there's an interesting thing going on with smartphones today, which is usability, wearability, comfort. So the trend is for these huge screen phones. They're not really that friendly for walking around. There was a sweet spot a while back where the phones, you could still fit a phone in your coin pocket of your Levi's. And that was sort of a moment. Now, I grew up, you know, pioneering mobile phones at Nokia. And I would always get people saying, look at this. And they'd always put their phone in their jean pocket. They didn't need to carry a holster. They didn't need to put it in. It would fit right there. And it was great. And that was kind of a measure of true wearability. Well, jean pockets are going to have to grow a little bit today. The fascinating thing for me is that there are phones out there today, and I won't name the brand, that if you drop it, it breaks, period. If it doesn't have a rubber case around it, it breaks. When I was chief of design at Nokia, if I designed a phone and if it was dropped from three meters and it broke, the entire program would be rejected. So it's a fascinating moment where people are accepting of large broken glass screens. And it's a fascinating thing for me. And I wonder that when design actually is about its longevity and the fact that you could use it, and it's in balance with its functionality, but things change very quickly. So now people are walking around, a great number of them, with a crack down the middle of their display. And that was totally unacceptable in my day. People are buying them. I can't say anything negative. But it's fascinating because we couldn't get away with that. Oh, the mail that would come through if you dropped a Nokia and it broke back in 1997. And you're not going to try and get away with that with the Meta? No, absolutely not. So what you see with Meta is a responsible package. We're creating, again, something made from very strong materials, whether it's glass or whether it's Gorilla Glass or sapphire. That's all a price point thing. But in any case, we want to make something which is robust, something which is reliable, something that's beautiful, and something that feels good on the wrist before it even steps into the whole wonderful advantages of the features of forwarding and all the things that it can do. Great. So, Frank, we want to thank you for joining us today. Thank you, guys. You've given us a lot of great insights and thoughts. And we're happy to have you here. Anytime. | [
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And one of the things that we talked about was when we started in 2013, and my team in particular was basically created in November of 2012. And we asked the question of how many people at Yahoo were doing mobile. And the answer was somewhere between 30 and 50 people. And that was a big kind of aha moment where we're like, wow, if we're really going to be a mobile first company and we're going to be exceptional, it's probably not going to be just 50 people. So that started the kind of revolution. And what we did is a tremendous amount of acquisitions. A lot of them talent-based to bring in extraordinary folks. Some of them technology-based. What happens when you start bringing all those people together is you really are focused on building products. And building products means bringing together designers, product folks, engineers to really craft and create something. And what we basically set out to do was reimagine pretty much every experience. We asked ourselves simple questions. Why do I need another weather app? The answer for us was, well, actually, why as a user am I reading charts and data when I really wanted to see the weather? And that kind of started that process. So we went through that type of experience with each one of our products. The result of that, Casey, is now starting to show. 2013, like you said, we pretty much reimagined every single experience at Yahoo. There's a few that we're still working on. And for mobile, when I started, we reached 150 million monthly users. We now, and Marissa shared it on stage, we now reach over 400 million monthly. That's just extraordinary growth. We added over 100 million in the last eight months alone. I'd love to say that's purely because of the products that we're creating. A lot of that is just the general consumer shift. But that was the result of basically focusing and working on that. What that ultimately leads to in the final step of the revolution is the monetization. So when you have those scale of users, you really start to focus on what can we do from a monetization perspective. I think the biggest thing for us in 2013 was a recognition of what happens with a platform shift. When a platform shift starts, the first question that people usually start with is cannibalization. They say things like, well, isn't mobile going to cannibalize desktop? I always find those conversations incredibly bizarre because, one, I can't actually technically understand how something eats something else, but that's okay. But the answer is clearly no. In fact, what we found this year and are seeing more broadly as a system is that mobile is additive. People are actually finding more time in the day. So this year, there was a Pew report that announced that for the first time ever, American consumers would do more during their day than watch TV. That was the number one dominant thing that we used to do. Now actually, if you combine mobile and Internet, the time spent there is actually more than on TV for the first time ever. So we found new time in the day. The second thing that people ask is, well, wow, these tiny screens, big display ads, what happens? How do we, we're going to go from dollars to dimes. And the answer there is definitively no. Actually, these devices are immersive, personalized, more focus of the user's attention, and when you get the ad formats right, they monetize better. So what we saw this year was really the birth of native advertisement at scale. Actually experiences that took ads and made them feel like they were part of that consumer product. So these are things like we launched with image ads, stream ads, we've got more and more of these formats coming out. As an industry, this was a very big year. And I'll actually give credit to folks like Facebook and others, frankly, for showing the way. I think what Facebook pulled off in Q3, kind of going from zero to really 40 plus percent of their revenue in mobile, what they did was the sort of quadruple backflip of the industry where all of us got to look and say, okay, so that's how it's done. And I think at Yahoo, we have our own twist on it, and our product experiences are pretty unique. But for example, what you saw with David on stage with Tumblr is really a progressive understanding of what advertisement can be. And so when you forecast for 2014, how are you feeling about monetizing these apps you've been building? I think 2014 is going to be a crossover year. If you saw the math that Marissa showed on stage, 800 million, so this is exclusive of Tumblr, just Yahoo proper, 800 million monthly users at Yahoo, 400 million mobile users. We're at that like perfect 50-50 right now. Page views, not the same, actually more page views on desktop currently than mobile. We will cross this year. So I suspect that at some point towards the latter half of this year, we will see more engagement, more page views, more users on mobile than we will even on desktop. That's an extraordinary statement, right, to cross over at that scale. All right. Let's talk about some of the product stuff. So one of the most interesting things you guys announced today was that you've acquired Aviate, which makes a kind of home screen replacement for Android. What are you going to do with these guys? So I think, well, one, the team is spectacular and really enjoy getting to know them through this process and seeing how they think about stuff. I mean, one of the things that you're really looking for when you're buying a product, a technology, something that we're excited about is how people are thinking about that, the team, the core team, where do they want to go? How do we fit with that and accelerate what they're doing? Aviate is really spot on for where we see search. In a previous incarnation, what most of us understood as search was we would type into a box and anticipatory computing in that context was search suggest. Type a few characters, ooh, did you mean this? Did you mean that? Starting to anticipate what a user was doing. What these guys are doing is saying, why do I even need the text? In fact, I have all the signals and all the clues that I need from the context of your device. So we view that as a natural extension of where we were going. We think a lot at Yahoo about search. It is a core part of our business. And when we thought about it in the mobile context, it really was about, hey, how do we get these kinds of systems? What I love about what they're doing is they really bring together the spirit of an ecosystem. It's a system, right? It's really all of the applications. It's a way of thinking about the user and saying, gee, what's the world class local application for when I'm in a new city? What do I actually look for? What are those kinds of things? I think their approach is where this is going. How do you make it valuable to Yahoo outside of Android? Because other platforms aren't going to give you that same level of access that they enjoy there. It's interesting. So a couple of things. One is, so Android is obviously the right place to begin. And like you said, for us, it's mostly in affordance of the different kinds of APIs and things that we can do in that platform. How that starts to extend, for example, in iOS or others, is in thinking about systems, thinking about system design. We started 2012, 2013 with a lot of thinking about applications and thinking about how as a user we wanted to bring value to you if you use more than one Yahoo application. If I had news and mail, how do those two work together? If I had news, mail and sports, how do those work together? So that really started us down this path of system design. So I think the applications can be the same way. So the example that I use is, you know, in Android, you can customize your entire home screen in that experience. In iOS, I can still customize once I'm inside an application, what are some of those sidebar experiences? What are some of the things that we surface for our users? I think that's the same kind of dimension. It's somewhere, it exists a little bit between the notification world, which is really push, and search, which is really pull. There's somewhere in between there that I think we can bring user value. Right. Interesting. Let's talk about the other big thing that you announced today, which is this app, Yahoo News Digest, which I've been playing around with now for a day or so. And I love it. I mean, I think it's great from a design perspective. But what fascinates me is that at a time when just about everybody else is building an endless stream and Yahoo has built its fair share of endless streams, you've introduced an app that says, you know, we're going to give you like 10 things and then you're done. Talk to me about like kind of what brought you guys to that place. So a lot of the inspiration came from Nick. You know, Nick is a pretty exceptional guy and really spends a lot of time thinking about sort of what experiences are right and native to him. And what we found was all of us love the stream. And that sense of endless really comes from our ability, frankly, to parse information super fast. What the stream often doesn't give you is that sense of completion. Right. Did I actually find out what was important today? I don't know. Right. I looked at a lot of stuff. Really I got what was important, but I don't actually know. And we started to really riff on that a lot and say, well, you know what? What would you need to feel complete? And where was the right metaphor for us around that? And it really came in the sense of, frankly, a metaphor from newspapers. Morning and evening digests. Why were they there? They were there to kind of summarize stuff for you. Where Nick took that even one level further, which I think is the right instinct, is he took summarization technology in his first iteration and said, what if I take an article and kind of distill it down to those things that are important? What this is saying is if I crawl the web and I look at all of the different documents out there, I can identify what's important. Document clustering. Hey, how come there's 10 articles on this topic? And if I distill the elements between all of those different articles, I can come up with a perspective that says, this is the bit that you really need to know. And what I've found in my own use is literally flipping through this thing in a minute, I actually feel like I know what's going on. So the weird part for us is, in fact, we almost have the opposite metric of a typical stream. It's how little time can I get you to spend in the application? How can I get you informed in the minimum amount of time possible? So we actually are like the anti-engagement application. Do you think that's particular to news, or is there any way that that idea could trickle into other products? So my hope, and I think we take it with the grain of we're still learning and trying to understand, my hope is that actually this becomes a templating format for all of our publications. For me, one of the things that I've observed is a lot of the news presentation or information presentation generally on the web takes its cues from basic HTML, and it's a page layout. And it's pretty simple. And actually, if we take the metaphor of magazines and what we actually experience when we look at some of those things, the layouts are pretty complex. Sometimes they're offset, they have titling, they have all kinds of layouts. I believe that those atoms, so those elements, the distillation of saying, this is the key point, this is the chart, this is the map, that if we're thoughtful about those, we could actually get a tremendous amount of page experiences that would look really unique for us. So I think it goes beyond news and information. I think that's the natural starting point. Right. One of the most interesting things that you guys talked about on stage today was as you sort of kind of refine the public's idea of what Yahoo is all about, you're going to focus on kind of four core experiences that are powered by Tumblr and Flickr. And that's the first time I've heard Yahoo speak about those two things as engines. Talk to me about how that fits into your world, like on the mobile side. What are Tumblr and Flickr going to power inside of Yahoo? Absolutely. So what's amazing about those two products in particular is that they're really platforms. Tumblr, probably the largest sort of blogging platform out there. Flickr certainly one of the largest photo sites out there. When you harness user-generated content, you just get huge amounts of scale. And those products and experiences were really built as platforms because they're really about users contributing, sharing out, doing all of that kind of behavior. There isn't anything endemic that's there and created for them. So we think of Yahoo as being powered by those experiences, just like our users use those platforms to do their own publishing and creation. They're really frankly creative tools. What's unique is Tumblr has the opportunity to power a lot of the digital magazine efforts, so kind of the next gen of what we're talking about with media as a publishing platform. Also as a way frankly of getting terrific content. I mean you can go deep, right? You can go as deep as you want in Tumblr, in lots of verticals there. So I think that's one. Flickr, the imagery there is just inspiring. I mean for us, being on the creative side of thinking about products, every time we go into the Flickr community and harness that, we just come up with exceptional stuff. I mean this is where weather came from, the new postcards, mail launch. We've done it in pretty much all of our experiences because the breadth and depth of the beauty at that site is just extraordinary. So when you think about those two kind of publishing platforms, you're really getting the creative tools that you need to build at scale. That's sort of how the powering metaphor came. Maybe as a last question, help me set the stage for 2014. You have already revamped almost the entire mobile product lineup except for Messenger. So are we going to finally see a revamp of Messenger? And if you won't answer that, what can you tell us about 2014? I'm not going to answer the first question. 2014, so I think first part of that revolution going back to the earlier point, creating those products, getting the users, getting the company back to growth. We shared on a couple of the earnings calls the fact that actually we returned to growth in terms of page views and user engagement. In fact, returning two years of losses. So we basically eclipsed even 2011 numbers now. That's extraordinary. The next part of that revolution is typically monetization and what you do. So we're spending a tremendous amount of time thinking about how to get that user experience right, experimenting, innovating. Some of the stuff that my colleague Scott Burke announced on stage, really critical. 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I pretty much saw everybody I had to see before I left. There was a lot of press and publicity before I left. Yeah. And I was curious, when you come to CES, do you just kind of do press or do you also do like deal making and meeting distributors? Yeah. Well, that's a part of it. They'll call me in and out of those meetings. Okay. In the beginning, I do it initially just to help people understand that I'm actually the owner of the company and not just the face of it with an endorsement. Right. And that's hard because a lot of celebrities are walking around CES, some of them fly in and fly out immediately. And so you're actually one of the few who sticks around. Right. The difference when you've invested and you have ownership versus you actually... If you got a license, when you're getting paid royalties based on a product connected to you like this. So they'll be guaranteed 45 minutes. Come in, sign autographs, run out. So what made you want to actually make your own headphones as opposed to just put your face on somebody else's headphones? Like when you first launched, you did a partnership with Sleek Audio in 2011. And then that deal, what happened? It was my first attempt at creating SMS. And it didn't work out because the staffing that was involved in it. Like people make the mistake that they think they're not careful when you have a really high profile and you get involved with people who are knowledgeable in the tech area, but not the business portion of it. Because that's what actually happened. They started to expand the staff and stuff like that without sales expanding at the same time. So they knew the tech, but they didn't know the business side of it. Right. So you felt like you needed to run everything. Yeah, it was the wrong opportunity. And then later I acquired Kono Audio to create SMS Audio. It's already a functional company and profitable. So the staff had already gelled together and it was the right thing to execute this. So here at CES where gadgets get very high end and you kind of have headphones made for this, headphones made for that, I'm wondering as a musician, what do you think is the perfect set of headphones? What are the qualities you look for? Well, I mean, it depends on what I'm doing, to be honest, because the different functionalities is the only way that they're actually different. There's some headsets that are exactly the same size and they're just not the same quality with everything else that's been put into it. Because I focused on durability, I broke so many of them in the past. Really? Yeah. Is that because you got mad and you were recording and throw it on the floor? No, just in the bag and running around and shuffling. You look in the airport, the plane may move with your headset in it and it's done. Because I focused on durability, we created a polyurethane with a nylon texture inside it that makes it a lot harder to break than the other headsets. You got a 40mm driver in them. The sports edition of Street by 50 has waterproofing. A lot of people don't realize why the actual gadgets are breaking. Even when your phone goes out of whack on the touch screen, it's because of moisture over time. Well, you don't have to worry about that in Las Vegas. It's dry. I was wondering if I could ask you about some of the stuff at CES this year. I know you've been really busy and you haven't seen all of it, but there are a couple trends that have come out of the show and I wonder if you think they're going to stick around and whether you would invest. The first one is self-driving cars. Have you seen Audi or BMW self-driving cars? What do you think of that? I think it would be cool. I think it may cut those driving companies out. I've got to drive myself. Eventually, we can just tell the car where to go. You would go for that? You don't feel like you would miss driving? Yeah, I'd let the car drive me. I would. What would you do while the car was driving? All kinds of things. It would allow you the ability to do things that you couldn't do in the past. It would actually have to change. Well, that wouldn't happen. The law would never be a law that the texting or the other habits that our gadgets are giving us wouldn't actually be an issue anymore. Like texting while you're driving? Or driving and looking at your phone. Thumbs up for self-driving cars. What about curved televisions? Have you seen the Samsung curved TV? This could take a while before I'm into that. Not into it? Well, like last year, a lot of stuff was 3D, and I wasn't into that. I didn't feel like I had that. You called it right. They went nowhere. Yeah, but I just really got on. I like them getting thinner because now it feels like you're hanging a painting instead of the television. Yeah, it looks nice. With the curved television, I just have to have a specific space that it works right on. And then it would feel like the perfect place to put it because all the walls are flat for the flat screen. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. And the last thing I'm wondering about is e-cigarettes. Have you seen those around? Electric cigarettes? Yeah. I guess it'll help someone break the habit if they still used to, if they have something to do that with without nicotine in it. That would probably be the most helpful gadget. Would you ever use one yourself? An e-cigarette? Well, I don't actually smoke, so I would be using it for no reason. Well, the e-cig companies want you to start even if you are a smoker. Even if you don't smoke cigarettes? Yeah. They just want to sell it. Because it looks so cool. So cool that you should smoke a cigarette that doesn't have... Yeah. Nah, that won't happen. Okay. What about e-cigar? No. No. Okay. All right. Well, there you have 50 cents reviews of the technology trends of CS 2014. Would you go to a smoking lounge to smoke an e-cigar? There are vaping... I mean, like a regular one. There are like vapor e-cig lounges. There's one in Soho. You see people in there? All people. Yeah. It's really cool. It's the hot new thing in New York. Okay. You should check it out when you get back. I'm going to check it. I've seen... There's a lot of things I missed for a second. The Minecraft thing. Like, I didn't know what was going on with that. It looked like they didn't finish making it. Minecraft thing? Video game? Yeah. I just saw something. Did you play Minecraft? No, I just really got put on to it. Oh, okay. That's what it is. So you're going to start playing? I'm checking it out. I've never played it. You know? But a lot of people at the verge are very into it. People are talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So I wonder if I could ask you about social media because there was a story about you a couple days ago where you put on Instagram some photos of...some cute photos of your baby son and then you took them down. I wonder what you think of Instagram and social media. Does it tempt people to share too much? Well, I think technology is going to take away privacy completely. Really? Yeah. Like, your Google Glass is the guy that just wants a photo for his social networking, takes a picture of you at the urinal. Right. Because he tells the glasses to take the picture. Like, that's... Yeah. And you have no idea. No, but it's... Until you see it on the internet later. See it on his Instagram later. Yeah. Later. So it's like it'll be...everything will be out. And I think it's important to try and stay as close to as many people as possible, as far as your fan base is concerned. I use my social networking to entertain them. It's not like me showing you what I had to eat. Right. And... Because people use it completely differently. They show you their lifestyle. But there's... Trying to... Right. So I look at mine and my Instagram may even look like it's a fake one because it's things that I put up. Mm-hmm. Not things...photos of me. I see. So you share jokes and that... Right....means and that kind of thing. Through the Instagram stuff. But I'm sure there are lots of people who care what you're eating because you're 50 Cent. Yeah, but I mean... That's a lot... A lot of stuff is boring. Like, I think if... Like, I wouldn't really care. Like, if you're comfortable, there's so many other things for us to talk about than what you had for lunch today. Mm-hmm. You know, like... When's the last time that your friend had a conversation with you and said, hey, how you doing? Is it, what did you have for lunch today? Right. Not... I can't remember the last time I had lunch. Yeah, it's like... But now I'm curious, what did you have for lunch today? I didn't have lunch. Oh, no. 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"text": " Like, your Google Glass is the guy that just wants a photo for his social networking, takes"
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"text": " Well, thank you so much for coming."
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9x6r8uj38Ok | Hey, and welcome to the Vergecast at CES 2014, day whatever. I'm Josh Tapolsky. I'm Neil Ivetel. I'm Thomas Ricker. He is Thomas Ricker. We have the delightful, the illustrious, the sexual, the handsome, the manly, the feminine Thomas Ricker here with us. Thomas? Can I go now? You've come all the way from- Thomas has been very resistant. You've come all the way from the weed haze of Amsterdam. To the weed haze of Las Vegas. To the weed haze of- To the cocaine haze of Las Vegas. Speaking of which, do you have a bomb? You got a joint for us? Let's do it. Let's spark up right here. This is made out of hemp. Yeah, of course it is. It seriously is. It's called sativa too, which is amazing. Thomas wearing your Amsterdam- Why do you have a young woman's rave wallet from 1994? I know, really. Chain wallet? I took my children to the- Chain wallet? I'm not kidding. His weed chain wallet. That thing was the hottest seller at Hot Topic in 96. That is a sick, and also a true bird. You're really wearing your Amsterdam residency on your sleeve here. In your wallet. Thanks. In your pocket. Thanks. Anyhow, Thomas Ricker is of course our- It's nonstop. He cannot get over the fact that I live in Amsterdam. He's our man in Europe. How is it possible? How are you alive and not stoned? How are you here? Are you getting the shakes? You need to get the shakes. No, I'm okay. I'm cool. So anyhow, this is our- So first off, let's clear the air, because there's a huge haze of weed in here. Thanks, Thomas. This chair is just rolling out of the- It's fine. Everything is fine. This is actually an early after hours for us. On the East Coast, I would classify this as after hours. On the West Coast, this godforsaken show is still happening. And all around us- All around us, people are juggling. They're riding electronic skateboards. They're flying on drones. I just saw Rick Rubin float out of a window. And it's been- Too big for that? No, he's trimmed down a little bit. Has he? Okay. Yeah. So this is the Vergecast after hours, but we're still within hours. We're still in hours. It feels early to me. It is early. Are we really done with the show? No, this will be our final Vergecast for the show, because- Shocking. Because we have to break down the studio. Friday is like the breakdown day here. And we wouldn't have a place to do it. We would just be like, us Skyping. Awesome. A parking lot. Yeah, or Hot Boxing in the car. Yeah. Thanks to the sweet weed that Thomas brought over from Amsterdam. So we thought- So we're not going to talk about the show that much. We're going to talk about our experience. We have to talk about it a little bit. I mean, I feel like we got out to the floor today. Well, we're going to talk about a little bit. You haven't had a chance to talk about it. Tell me about- Thomas, bring a fresh perspective to what you've seen this week. It's kind of hard to give a fresh perspective. I mean, this is, what, my tenth year coming here? Is it really? I don't know. I'm longer than you, definitely longer than you. Yeah. Wow. Support of the show, everyone. You're longer than you, definitely longer than you. And we're both like, yep. That's true. That's true. I won't deny it. I don't know. To me, I'm trying to get excited about it. I mean, for me, the best part is just being here with the team. The entire team is here. I honestly think that's always the best part. But sometimes the stuff going on is more fun than other times. I mean, it's exciting. There's little things that we're finding. There's, weirdly, this little Polaroid cube camera that I saw. You like those. I like the design. It's a totally non-functioning prototype. It's a plastic shell. Yeah. And everybody freaked out about it because we took some really beautiful, beautiful photos. No, but my favorite product to see us last year was a non-functioning shell. It was Sony's Circle with a Light, Blu-ray era, HD. What happened to that? I didn't show that again this year. This year, it's a square. It's like, thanks, Sony. I had one dream, and you squared it off. It's the aspirational Sony. Show you what they're capable of. We could turn a circle into a square. So you actually, you did something that Josh and I didn't do. You went to all of the big vendor chaos shit show exhibits that they have. What's that? It's weird. That used to be the biggest part of the news cycle. Now we just don't go because we send so many other people. Those things are hugely stressful. Which camera? This one? You can just talk to us. Those are hugely stressful. I mean, you guys know. I think one year, we kind of took it a little haphazard, and we got behind on the coverage, and it wasn't so great. Then I somehow ended up taking over and running this massive team of writers and now video crew over to these events. It's insane. They line us up. It's like hundreds of journalists that are lined up in a shoot. Then they open the door and say, go. Then you have 100 vendors lined up around the corner, all showing off products, many for the first time. You have to go in there. You have to figure out, well, what's important, what's not. You have to quickly filter all that stuff out, of course, because we're racing other people. Then you have to do it in a quality way. Stern is just there with a vibrating fork, destroying the coverage. This goes on for three days in a row. You can imagine there are like 30 of these. You have somehow gotten the... I guess it's because you're so organized and so great at your job, but as a result, you're in charge of running the teams that go to these events. It becomes just a question of getting a battle plan. It's not even... In the moment, it's not like journalism. It's like suddenly things have been made available to you to look at. You have to decide on the spot, is this interesting? What is it? What does it do? Is it interesting? Have we covered it? Do we need to cover it? How much coverage do we need to do? Then it all happens minute to minute. You're competing with every other journalist in the world. Here we are working, is it unveiled? That's just the video. I don't know. It's a blur. Yeah, it's unveiled. It's a blur. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. It gets kind of weird every year because this is where the first stories of CS break. Right. That's the first press-related event. I have to say, there weren't many stories this year that came out of those events. No, there were small things. Some small things. The Polaroid camera was in one of those, right? The Polaroid camera was there. There was a giant e-ink clock, which is three meters wide and hangs up on your clock. It sounds great. Normally, you would think e-ink, okay, that's really visible. I'm going to be able to see it, especially up on a white wall. When it's off, it's actually gray scale. When it's on, it's just a darker gray. You really can't even tell the time. It costs like 500 bucks. If they get the technology right, then I think it's going to be... I liked it. I think it was beautiful. I also want to be able to tell the time, so I don't think I'm going to be getting one. Time is very important to you. Time is relative. I actually never set my watch. It's actually really cool. Really? Are you joking? You're joking. I don't know the time. It's on East Coast time, but I can never... Oh, you didn't say. I actually have a rule. If I go somewhere for two days, I don't set it. I'm just going to stay on East Coast time. Like this, we're here a week. There's no way I can't change it. I can't believe you haven't changed yours. You don't look at it. I look at my phone. You don't look at it. You're all right. I'm always around clocks. I assume you don't wear a watch, do you? No. Just check my phone. You should have a chain wall and a pocket watch would be an appropriate addition. You've got two chains. Then I have to wear tweets, double breasted. Everything should be attached to you by a chain. You should have a chain laptop, chain tablet. By the way, do you remember- Like little tablets on chains. Oh, you don't remember this, but earlier today I made a joke about an Airbus A320, and I made up some fake thing that I had, like this dual hydraulic something or other. So somebody tweeted me, and apparently it actually has the thing that I made up. It was really weird. I was like, oh, it's a 320 with it. I was like, I knew a lot about planes, unrelated to everything that we're talking about right now. So what's your thing of the show? Is it the Polaroid Cube? No, definitely not. I mean, okay, let's talk about Polaroid for a little bit. I mean, it's a fascinating... First of all, it's not a company. You know that. It's a shell, right? It's a brand. It's a brand. Right. It's a name. It's a name, and the name gets licensed out to whoever wants it, which is fascinating because you pick up one Polaroid product, and you think, oh, this is a piece of shit, right? Yeah. In fact, most of them are. Yeah. But they actually have nothing to do with each other. You just license the name, and then you go off and you manufacture it with whoever you want. They have a Polaroid booth here. Yeah, they do. In fact, it seems like there are two of them. It's really sad. Can I... Is that the Shell Company? Yeah, I mean, it's the Shell Company. You know what's really weird with these... Great headline, by the way. Yeah. You read the post? Well, that's my headline. Is it? Inexpensive but cheap. Yeah. There's cheap crap everywhere. Yeah. But the Polaroid booth is particularly egregiously cheap crap. Yeah. And it's like somebody didn't get the... Whoever bought the brand- They had a nice looking booth last year. It's a nice looking- Yeah. They play up the nostalgia a lot. Right. So they have a lot of the old Instamatic cameras in the booth. Right. And like old Polaroids inside. Yeah. And then it's just like the most, absolutely the worst tablet just like- Right. Such a bummer. So they play up on that tradition, but what is there now is nothing, has absolutely nothing to do with that history. So this is the year where they're trying to reclaim from Instagram. From Instagram they're trying to reclaim their Polaroid-y-ness. Maybe. I mean, that was also a shell. The Instamatic. I think that's what it's called. Yeah. That was also a shell. A little square- There it is. No, that's the cube. So, so adorable. That's the little cube camera. But there's a bigger one that we've seen before. It was pre-announced I think two or three months ago. We see the Instagram camera. It's literally the Instagram icon. Yeah. It's called the Socialmatic. Yeah, Socialmatic. Oh, the Socialmatic. Yeah, that's it. It looks exactly like the Instagram icon if it were turned into a product. But you know what's weird about these? It's like whatever. You made it. It's great. It's got a Z-ink printer in it, or zinc or whatever they call it. Here it is. There it is. That's cool. It's insane. You know what it isn't though? If you scroll down you can see the old leather case. Now that, I've got an old Polaroid in a closet back home and it has that exact leather case. It flips over the top and comes off and then hangs there when you try to shoot. They're really preying upon that tradition. Now I don't know. Maybe it'll be phenomenal. Maybe it'll be amazing. No, it won't. It can't be. But the contract claims it's going to be manufacturing with Foxconn. Oh really? So let's like, you know. The manufacturers have the issue. It's the design. How much money do they have? Foxconn will be like, you pay us a little bit of money and we'll make a crappy product. The question is how much? Foxconn makes HP laptops and Macbooks. That's a great, very cogent point. Perfect example. I mean, it's like how much design was put into it. What are the optics like? Is it going to be a good camera? They're not listening to the details. Well, it's a crappy camera, but it does like, it develops the film weird. You know what people don't want to do is like, take a picture and print it, right? They want to share it to social networks. Does it have a screen on it? I don't think so. It definitely doesn't in this iteration. I don't know. That doesn't. Which is a plastic box, remember. That doesn't feel like a win. So what did you really like? I guess there is a nostalgic hit for me and that was the webOS TV. I finally went into LG's booth, which is magnificent, by the way. You come in off the main concourse and there's this enormous multi-paneled 3D experience with all these people laying down on the ground and staring up at it. Have you been over to the main concourse yet? I've been by it. I haven't been through all of it. It's amazing because it's the first thing you see as you're walking through the main hall, the main corridor of the central hall. And so it draws you in. And then if you continue down their path and you come across the webOS experience, which is, they have a lot of space dedicated to that. So that's a big push for them. Unfortunately, they're not letting anybody actually test drive. I got to test drive. Did you? Yeah. Dieter and I... It goes to show. When you go to a webOS area with Dieter Bohn, like the C's part and former employees show up and they anoint him a little bit, it's very nice. John Rubenstein appears from behind. Dieter, Dietrich Bohn. Dietrich. No, we've played with it a little. His name is just Dieter, I think, isn't it? I don't think it's longer. If only we had somebody we could ask. Anyhow, go on. Maybe it is longer. Well, no, I think, I mean, I have a smart TV. We've seen them for years and they're not very smart. They suck. The interface is awful. I mean, even Apple TV for all of its Apple-ness isn't that great to get around on a tiny little remote. Right. And the motion sensing is pretty interesting, you know, being able to point things. I hate the motion sensing. Yeah, I don't, I mean, they told me that there's so much RF interference there that the Bluetooth is a little jittery. Yeah. But I kind of don't believe it. Well, that's what I want to, I mean, I'm hopeful that, I mean, it looks really nice and it looks very simple. And I like what they did with the UX, the elements. I don't think that this, like this wavy thing, there's something about it that's cool and interesting and like the web OS interface is cool, but that's just the Netflix interface. Yeah, that looks like the Netflix interface. I'm happy using the Netflix interface with the D-pad. That interface is optimized for D-pad. It's not optimized for a weird Bluetooth mouse. Well, but comparatively to, I mean, I think what works here is that they have a platform, we talked about this, but they have a platform, they have a design, they have an aesthetic and they apparently are at least trying to push some guidelines to partners. Yeah, but Netflix is the only one that's important is Netflix and that list, right? I mean like- Well, I don't know. Have you ever used Vudu? I have actually, I've used Vudu. They're HDX, higher quality. I use Amazon a lot and I use Hulu. I mean, I use Netflix, Hulu and Amazon on a consistent basis, I would say. But all those apps, I mean, that's the thing you complain about. They're going to be all, that's the problem. That is the fundamental problem. And their whole thing, and they told us, we interviewed the designer and they were like, we believe in openness, we're going to have some standards, people can use them, but really we want HTML5 apps to be the way of the future. Which is the advantage of web OS is HTML5. But everybody, Samsung's backend is HTML5, Vizio's backend, Sony's, they know that these companies aren't good at software. That's why they're all partnering with software companies. I said this on like day two, but I'm so sick of talking about smart TVs. I mean, that's the thing about web OS, it's like, oh, that is the nostalgic, like I was looking at my old Palm Pre-Review and remembering the year that we came here and they announced the pre and it was so exciting. Web OS on an LG TV is not that. You know, it's like, it does kind of ping my nostalgic bone or whatever. Do you have no idea what that means? But it doesn't, it's just like a smart TV that I don't want to buy. It's an LG TV that I have no plans to buy, you know, like no amount of cool interface will get me to buy a TV that I didn't want in the first place. Most of what you're going to do is turn it on, turn to your cable box, make the interface go away. Probably, yeah. I mean, like it's not such a huge leap over the Roku, really, that I, you know what I mean? Like I guess if you're in the market and you need a TV and you're looking at smart TVs and you think picture quality is not that big of a deal or like it's all about the same, they make decent TVs, they're fine. And you're like, okay, I'm just looking for a really decent TV with a great interface. Like this is a good option, but I think it's a really small segment of the audience. I just don't think people think like that. They aren't, people aren't buying smart TVs for smart TV functions. I mean, not that I've seen. But that's what's unfortunate about the show is that like the web OS TV, which I don't really want, I'm just, you know, I would like to see it succeed. Right. I mean, that's kind of one of my top picks. There just isn't that much low hanging fruit to choose from. It was a dry, it was a dry. I will say that we tried the Oculus Crystal Cove yesterday and that was so incredible. Have we run the video? Have we put up the standalone video of that yet? I don't think so. I haven't seen it. Do you want to see it? Have you seen it? I haven't seen it. Can we watch it? Do you guys have that available? Because we've showed it in the morning, but maybe not everybody's seen it. Can you maybe try to get, I'm going to see if, I'm going to see if they can get it up because it's actually kind of fun to watch. Like everybody's reaction to it. I know Addy said it was fantastic. I actually, I mean, I said this last night, but like there was a moment when I saw my own hands and I was like, what are those doing there? Which is like to see your body and not understand it. I expect it to be less impressed. You're used to that. This is the regrettable thing about what I do at the show is I'm mostly like running the news. Is this it? Yeah. Let's take a look at this. This is the video that we did of everybody. That's just me and Thomas. That's not it. This is not. You're in a virtual reality right now. Look how realistic this is. It's like I can look around him. Can we run that? Or no? I don't know why I'm looking. I have you on my headset. Okay, here it is. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. What's happening? Oh my God. Oh my God. What the hell? This is, I have to say, this is, I'm not able to do words right now. Holy crap. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What the fuck? The whole thing for one second, I'll tell it to you. It looks straight forward. Now you can Oculus face all your... Look up. Look in front of you. This is not good. I'm totally hung over. Look at this! This is stupid. This is like Hanukkah. I'm sorry I'm so giggly. Whoa. This is like being hugged by a video game. These guys are really cool. Got big bellies. Could you put them together? I really want to pick these guys up, like... But I can't. This is very disorienting because I can see my hand. And it's like, I want to kill it. Squashing guys. Wait, so how do I kill this thing? Okay, I killed someone. You guys saw that, right? Okay, I just want to kill things. Is anyone dead yet? Oh, he's dead. I can shoot them? Oh, I got one. I got that guy. Dude. Dude. That's a table. Okay, there's a table there. This is amazing. And I never want to take it off. I mean, I'm not going to take it off. Oh, I don't want to leave. This is the best thing. No, but no, no, no, no. I feel amazing right now. I really don't want you to take this off of me. Welcome back to Vegas. Oh, wow. That's cool. So the interesting thing about this, I said it on the morning show on the first, but the interesting thing is I expected to not be as impressed because I've already seen it a bunch of times. And the stuff they've done where they fixed the timing and the... It's a higher resolution now, right? Higher resolution. I mean, you can still see pixels, but it's higher resolution. They fixed some of the latency issues. They're getting that a lot faster. And now it has positional tracking in addition to the motion sensing. And it's pretty crazy. Like that cave, the thing... So here's what's interesting. That demo they showed was a seated demo where you're not moving around. What was most interesting about it was when you turned around and there was a cave like way far away and you felt like you were looking back down this crazy corridor. I mean, it was really insane. It feels insane. It feels like you are in another place. I'm so jealous. I didn't even know you guys did this. This is the first time I've seen of this. You blew it. I don't know. I think you were getting high or something. You were like, I got to go get my gravity bomb. No, I think you were just out of the trailer. I think you were off doing... It was 420 at the time. The clock struck 420. It was 420, coincidentally. The clock struck 420. Is it 420 right now? No, it's not. Would you guys buy one of these? Yes. You would? Not yet. I would buy it. What about with that running treadmill? No, I would buy it. The Ellis thing, yeah. So Ellis did this thing on the running treadmill, which is basically an Oculus and a treadmill that you run on. And he was like, he came back and I saw him and I was like, whoa, buddy, did you go out last night? And he's like, no, I did a virtual reality thing and it was too real. And he just like drifted in a super nauseated state around the trailer for a while. I mean, I get very nauseous with the dev version. This latency is much higher and it makes people more. This is the Virtuix Omni. I mean, this looks crazy to me. This thing is cool though. They said they're going to sell this for like $400. Yeah, this is the second generation because Paul did one. Paul did one last year. But it looks like they've really improved the walk-in. Yeah, yeah, it's much better. Like this is nuts. I mean, this looks terrifying. I mean, imagine the higher resolution, you know, low or zero latency in this thing with that, when we saw this thing as pre-OVR, which is you wear kind of like a chest thing and an arm thing. Imagine you got that on. But can we really not figure anything better to do than kill stuff in these games? Well, no, that's the next step. You know, I was actually talking to the Oculus guys. Oh, no, Addy was talking to them. We had several conversations. But Paul Merlucky from Oculus was saying, you know, the controller is now the problem because when you get into it, and you saw, by the way, in that video, everybody was going like this. Yeah. Because what happens is when you're in there, you want to interact the way you interact with the real world. You want to be able to touch things. And like you can't do it. And I think like I actually think Oculus, I wouldn't be surprised if we see them start to work on some thing that is like your hands are now like part of the simulation. And I think that's kind of the next step because, you know, it's like we are just like killing things, you know. It's like you're in there with a gun. Like that's cool. But it's like one thing you can do, and you don't want to be doing it all the time. I think, I mean, this is the, I mean, we're definitely at the beginning of real like crazy virtual reality stuff. Like it's happening now. I don't think that it's not going to not happen. I think that there's interest. I think that it's cheap enough to do. I think there's huge consumer interest. I think that the graphics are good enough that they feel realistic. And they did that thing, you know, the screen is still not as great as I'd want it to be. Yeah. But they did that persistence display where they're repainting the screen like all at once. Yeah. I think they're using OLED to do it. Yeah. And it's actually a lot better. Yeah, there's less tearing. There's no motion blur. You know, that's the thing. And I should just write this. This should be my end of CS. Just write it. But that's the thing where it does have a really high, you have to like wear a virtual reality headset and have a computer and like understand what you're going to do. But the experience is so great. The benefit of it is amazing. Oh, this is the cost. Yeah, but like those are all like high. You have to wear a thing. Well, that's really the ultimate is like how do you sell it to consumers? Right. How do you get consumers to want it? You know, I think I probably said this, I've said this a few times. They need to figure out how to make movies for that thing. Where like it's a murder mystery and you like walk around a house. No, I mean imagine. Imagine like Oculus Clue. Yeah, or that you can say like I want to be in this character's head for half the movie. Right. And then I'll switch to another character. They should really bring back, I don't know if you're listening to me, Palmer. You should definitely shoot Clue, the movie Clue for the Oculus Rift. Yeah, with a lot of different endings. Yeah. I mean that movie was great, first of all. One of the best. One of the best movies of all time. Yeah. But you should shoot it and that should be like an Oculus release thing that you do. You should do an Oculus Verge cast. Where you can go inside. You can just walk around us. Here's a scene from Clue. By the way, is Christopher Lloyd in Clue? Yes. Christopher Lloyd is in Clue and I don't want to say there's some magical stuff happening, but you know we just saw Christopher Lloyd recently playing the role of Doc Brown. I'm actually really, here's what I'm mostly disturbed about. We were so quickly able to bring up Clue. But our own content is much longer. Give us a minute, but Clue we got on tap, no problem. John's like, oh I was just watching Clue. Yeah, it's funny you should mention that. So let's get real though. Yeah. Let's talk about The Verge at CES. Are you working right now? I can't. I'm sorry, are you too busy to spend an hour with us? I'm fucking dying. Are you still talking? Can we just get it out there? This may be my last ever Verge cast. This may be my last day on Earth. This may be my last day. And you know what, I don't regret a thing except not doing a ton of drugs. That's the one thing I regret. It's not even true because I took a photo of a stack of drugs sitting by your desk yesterday. I did have some super awesome NyQuil. I took NyQuil last night at midnight, but it didn't kick in until like when I was sleeping. And I woke up and then it kicked in and now I've just felt like a complete maniac all day. Which is different than how I normally feel, in case you're wondering. Here's the thing about CES time and why I like it. Why I think it's the most magical time of the year. Yeah. First off, it comes after the second most magical time of the year, Xmas. And here's the thing about CES. You know, everybody complains about CES. I'm just like this chair is just hopelessly drifting. I don't know what's going on. Did you oil the floor here? Did you lubricate, lube on the floor? What's happening? I'm just getting crazy in here. Anyhow, as I was saying before, my lubed chair rolled towards ecstasy. What was I saying? I don't know. The verge. Okay, everybody hates CES. Everybody who comes here, all the journalists are like, oh God. And you know, I think we feel the same way in some way. We don't hate CES, but we're like the holidays just ended. We just did New Year's. We had a crazy year. November is always crazy. You know, like the fall is insane. And then you're like, now in six days I have to fly to Las Vegas, which is, you know, I'm sorry for people who live in Las Vegas. It's a terrible place to be. I mean, it's one of the worst places I've ever been. I'm not saying the people here are bad. They're wonderful. Yeah. But as a city, it's fucked up. It's bizarre. It is really bizarre. Everything's augmented. Everything. Everything is augmented. Everything. And it's just really, it's like dry. We're in the desert. There's like blood coming out of my nose every night. I've seen so many people with nose bleeds. No, Steven Greenwood was like, had a picture in our video chat room and he was like, I got to go take care of this. And it was like his sink covered in blood because he was like having massive nose bleeds, which I think, I hope he's okay. Is he okay? We don't know. We lost Greenwood. So you fell out of that blood and you just went about your business? We lost Greenwood, unfortunately. Rip. Rip Steven. Rip Steven. But, you know, Vegas is insane. There's like hookers everywhere. There's people handing you. Are there? I mean, I think. I don't know. Tom Warren saved somebody's life today. Yeah, can you tell me the story? What happened? Tom Warren apparently. I don't know if I know all the details, but. Make them up. Yeah, this we invented. It's the Verge cast. Apparently they were walking towards the. Wait, hold on. Can I just say like, this looks like Charlie. He's like a Charlie Rose guest. Can you go back to Thomas's? Yeah, yeah, this is like straight up Charlie Rose right here. It's so good. Sorry, not unrelated to everything. Go on. So apparently they were walking. We're not too far from the from the from the from the hotel. I mean, everybody for everyone's. I don't know. Docs or hotel. I don't need to. We're close to this. Everybody. I don't need stalkers coming in there, raping me to death. Because that's what they'll do to me. Or so the threatening letters I've received have said. So they're coming back. They're coming in this morning and they saw somebody that was crawling on the ground. I think they also saw him last night and a couple of them started up a conversation. Well, he was trying to strike up a conversation with our team crawling on the ground, crawling on the ground, like looking for things. And he looked up at Tom and said something about you think I'm crazy, don't you? And Tom was like, and of course, Omar. Oh, I remember this story. He walked over to him and started striking up a conversation. Are you the weirdest thing here? I'm going to talk to you. He's like, what are you saying? Something like, you know, I've got the secret. And Omar's, what's the secret? He goes, you wouldn't believe me if I told you. And so, oh my God, I would like to know. He's writing, I mean, he's doing profiles of people that are here. So it turns out, I don't know how they found out, but they saw a missing persons ad and this guy is a missing person. Oh my God. Did he come to the show? How did he see the ad? Did he come to see us? These are the details I don't know. Did he attendee? I don't know. I don't know all the details. I don't know all the details. But anyway, so Tom saw that and he called up the number and indeed, like his wife was looking for him. He had missed a flight. He got in some kind of bad ass trip. Oh my God. What? Yeah, he was seriously like. Did this really happen? Yeah, he called him up and he's like the cops. Yeah, they came and picked him up. Well, I don't know if they're the cops, but somebody came and picked him up. That is crazy. We should write about that. See, yes, 2014. We should write about that. I think people would like to hear the whole story from Tom and Amar. Yeah, I would like to hear it. Let's see if we can get them to do that. Yeah, I would like to know the details. Not that I don't want to dox anybody, but that's a really interesting story. I think so. I'd read a thousand words on that. I mean, although you just heard the story now, just pretend you didn't hear it if you see it on the site tomorrow. I made up half of it. There you go. Vegas. Yeah. What happens in Vegas is disturbing. So, yeah, so then it's just a weird town. I mean, I haven't seen a lot of weird Vegas. No, we're usually kind of just trapped here, but even within the confines of the convention center in our hotel, which is very close, you do see the little tendrils, the little threads. I did have to spend a little time talking to people on the strip. I wasn't there physically. It's a long story, but I did speak to some people on the strip. And pretty interesting what people will admit to you here in Vegas. Like if you casually ask if they're going to do cocaine tonight, at least 50% of the people who were talking to you at the time will say yes, which I think is great. But, yeah, anyhow, it's a weird town. I'm making a point here. And the show can be very stressful, as we discussed earlier. And the food is bad, not for lack of trying, but the food that they serve to you every day in the trailer is not very good or healthy or delicious. I do like the breakfast, though, actually. I really enjoy the breakfast. Yeah, but every day the place smells like bacon. And then it smells like man later in the day. And then it's whiskey plus man. And then whiskey man, the greatest superhero ever, who just drunkenly wanders in somewhere and punches someone. And fights you with bacon. Yeah, exactly. He's like, take this, and he cramps the bacon in your mouth. You're like, I will take this. And, ahhh. Anyhow, so, that's a, somebody please make a comic strip that is that sequence of events. Whiskey man with the bacon. I will take, okay. But, okay, but we, The Verge, Dom, I'm going, I'm getting, I'm getting, I've got plenty of time, plenty of time for this. But what's amazing about CES, first off, what's amazing about CES, let's just say, the show can often be disappointing, you know, in places. But it's also often exciting and interesting and fascinating. Now, there were fewer exciting, interesting, fascinating things this year than I think last year. Yeah. It's weird. I talk to other people and they feel like it's reversed, that this is a more exciting year. But, there were some very cool things here. We saw some stuff that I think got us pretty excited. We saw some things that got us pretty bummed and we're like, yeah, that's lame. But, what's amazing about this is that we get the entire Verge team. Every, almost every writer. There's some people who couldn't make it for various reasons, some people that are just kind of hung back. But, the majority of the team, vast majority, in one room with our video team, with our product team, and everybody's like in one big room for a week straight. And, I don't know. We do some of the most interesting work that we ever do because we're all together. We do really interesting work. And, everything is over here. Because we're having, we're having conversations in real time about stories that are breaking. We're like swapping ideas. But, I think what's most amazing and interesting and is always to me the most awesome thing is that there's a bunch of people in the trailer. There's like 50, 60, however many people now. With everybody who's in the video and there's PAs and there's all these. And, I like all of them a lot. I really like hanging out with them. And, every night, I don't want to leave. I've been sick this whole week. And, people start to kind of wind down. And, you get like, everybody's having a drink. And, I've been feeling like, shit. I have to go. I feel so terrible. I'm out of here. And, then I want to stay. I end up staying later because I just want to hang out with the people who are there. What's amazing to me is that we have a team full of brilliant, incredible, fascinating, funny people. And, I like every one of them. And, I like to think, I hope that they like me. But, I think that we all like each other. Which is extremely rare, I feel, in a business of our size. For me it is. I mean, I've worked in big accounting firms. I've been in, I mean, I used to be in ITs. Like, giant corporations, small startups. And, I've always just tolerated. I hope nobody's watching. Now, I had a few friends. Why? Go back here. In my previous job. You had a Fortune 500 company. But, mostly it was just a constant, chronic toleration of the people around me. Yeah. And, this is, especially when there were team events. Like, something planned in the evening. Yeah. You had to do something. And, I remember one time we had to fly a whole group of people for team building. And, you had to do these human knots. Have you ever done this? Yeah. You have to do it with your own hands. This is why we like each other. Because, nobody forces anybody to do a human knot. No, we're doing that later. It's unbelievable. I've been trying to tie myself in. Dude, do a human knot. It's so awkward. Look, I spent a lot of time last night trying to tie myself in a human knot. Oh my god. It got deep. It got weird. It's getting weird in here, actually. But, we don't have that. I mean, we are all good friends. And, we can, it doesn't matter who you end up sitting next to or whatever. I mean, you always, there's just a lot of commonality. Yeah. And, like, the people here aren't like, oh man, I gotta get out of work and go party somewhere. Where is everybody going? Ben and Sam and a bunch of other people ended up in the hot tub at our hotel. In all the years we've been staying at this hotel, which is like seven years or something. Nobody's used the pool. Nobody's ever touched it. And, Ben was like, Ben Popper was like, we're doing the hot tub tonight. We're going. We're getting in. Long day at work. It was like 11, 10 o'clock at night or something. And, they went over there. And, I was like, yeah, that's not happening. Like, nobody's getting in the hot tub. And, sure enough, oh, we have a photo of it. Sure enough, a bunch of dudes are in the hot tub. Are you in the hot tub? What? Are you kidding me? There they are. Can we zoom in on that? I thought this was code for smoking weed the entire time. Oh, I'm sure they were smoking weed. No, they went in. Thomas provided from Amsterdams. No, I'm seriously, I'm just saying out loud, when they were like, do you want to come get in the hot tub with me? You thought it was like a- I thought it was like a wink wink. We're going to like hot box Ben's room. Yeah. I didn't realize they actually stripped down and got into the hot tub. They got into the hot tub. I don't even, like, I don't know if I'm disappointed by that or happy about that. I was, frankly, I was touched. I'm trying to, what feeling am I having? And they're photographing each other. I think it's perfectly normal. I think it seems to be normal and well within our standards of business conduct. You know, but, but, well, like, I think that to me- I mean, I'm okay to make that exception. If CES- It's like paragraph like, subparagraph six, paragraph five, sub C, you may get into a hot tub at CES with bros. And take pictures of each other. Bros may photograph in hot tubs in Vegas. I'm going to print that out. If CES was a complete bust and there wasn't a single thing here that was interesting and it was just a, you know, five days of working our asses off and not, you know, coming up with anything good on the work side, like it would still be worth it to me to have this, to have this time to like actually hang out with the people that I work with who I don't get to see all the time because you're in Europe and there's people all over the place and, you know, we're all very busy out doing things. Like even the people who are in New York are not, you know, are rarely all in the office at the same time. And that is, that is what makes CES kind of awesome regardless of what the show's like, you know? And if we find something cool at the show, that's like a bonus to us. And I think that, I guess like when I, when you see these things where people are like, tech is dead and this CES- Like this show does kind of suck. Like make no mistake about it. I was on the show floor a lot yesterday actually, and which was unique for me. That doesn't, I got to see a bunch of things, but I also saw a bunch of like other tech reporters and everyone's like, I hate it here. And I was like, my reaction is I love it here. It's really weird. Like- But we've also set it up so we can love it. I mean, we- Yeah, our stress levels are low. We equip people with the right equipment. I mean, everybody has the right equipment to do their jobs. We give them accommodations that are close enough and comfortable enough that you can get some rest when you do have downtime. We provide the vehicles to get the transportation around because transportation in Vegas is impossible. And food. Yeah, and food. And like, we're very well taken care of. I mean, we have people here like Michael Shane and Leah are like, you know, just people are, there are people here who are bending over backwards to make this team feel like healthy and be fed and all. I mean, there's a huge amount of people and like, and we'll make a list. We will do a post of like a wrap up post and we will, you will see these people and we'll make a list of these people. You know, yes, like that's the thing. Like you don't stress out about like, how am I getting to this event or what am I eating? And I will say like, it is a luxury. We didn't always, it wasn't always like this. I mean, at Engadget, we started this. I mean, the first one that I went to, first off, the first one that we went to when I was at Engadget- And you weren't even here. We were at a hotel far away. We had no, we were like literally taking cabs and I think maybe a couple of people rented cars and you're driving these long distances back and forth every time you had to go somewhere, every time you had to go to the show floor. There was no food provided. It was, you know what I mean? It was a mess. And we've like worked at this for many, many years. We're very proud of how to do it. And also like, I think that our attitude now when we come here is the verge has to do like the verge at CES. And the pressure of, there used to be this enormous pressure of like, do we have every embargo or are we hitting every little piece of news? Do we have every router? You know, when we were at Engadget, it was like very gadget focused. It was very much like, do we have every little piece of PR? Are we hitting every piece of news? And I think having done this now for, what is this, the third year doing it, the verge, like we just have learned like the verge has a pace and we've got things we want to do and stories we want to tell and it's just, it's a different rhythm. And that I think is also a stress reliever. There are moments, I will say there are moments. I mean, and the show's gotten, it's like we've gotten much bigger and the show's gotten smaller. Yeah. Well, I mean, they'll tell you it's been record. We've made it smaller. I mean, we've become more focused. So yeah, it's another record year. I saw the press release come out. Oh, is it? Yeah. Every year it's a record year. Exactly. You know, like Gary Shapiro has like, he's got like a warehouse full of people just waiting to storm CES. It's like. So it can be another record year. They're everywhere. They're in some sort of hyperbaric chamber waiting to be unfrozen. I need 10,000 clones. We're 5,000 under, send in clones. Is that what happened? Yeah. He's talking to his couch here. Wouldn't it be easier to just like fake the numbers? He would have a go at it. Who's the auditing firm that's checking? Like actually, Shapiro, I take issue with this. I'd like to see your books. Like nobody's looking. Nobody. But you're right that we have also, whatever the records are, whatever the numbers are, we've made it smaller by doing that. And so like, yeah, I don't know where I was going with this. I guess I was just talking about how the show feels to us. And I'm going to be like tired and battered and I already feel like completely drained. But it's been great. And like we do have tense moments. We do have real work to do. But I feel like especially when everybody's in the same room and on the same wavelength, doing that work is so much more fun and so much easier. And it's just a very cool experience. I mean, obviously we're, well not obviously, but we're the management. We're part of the management team. But the team pretty much runs itself at this point. I mean, I think Jake, this is his first year as a writer. He was here last year as an intern. So he volunteered to do an early morning shift one day. Or, yeah, early morning. For us, early morning here is 5 a.m. And he still came in at the same hour as everybody else, even after finishing. And we were saying, you know, you were allowed to take some time off. He's like, yeah, but everybody else is in here. So I felt like I should be here. It's awesome. And people do work their asses off. And it's so incredible to see how much. I mean, for me, like I've gone gradually now, and I think Neelay has and you have too. We used to be like in the trenches and we've gradually as the team has grown and we've taken on leadership stuff that it's like you don't do the writing anymore. Yeah, and I miss it. Yeah, and I actually have written a few things here and it's been awesome. The only things I write about are angry editorials. Yeah, but you know what's great about this is actually it's like a weird vacation from like the stuff we have to do during like it's weird to call it a vacation, but it is like we break from the things we have to do and you can write the editorial because we're sitting there and we're like, let's just do it right now. I wrote that like Michael Bay post in a second because everybody in the room was like, just write it. And it was like, OK, let's just do it. You know, and it's stuff like that happens. And it's actually really fun. Like I did that I wrote thing. I know, you know, I wouldn't have been able to find time to do that in New York because we're so just constantly doing like real work. And that's really awesome. And I should say, like the other thing that's really cool about this show is obviously our team and the way we feel. But the fact that like we're doing this and we've done these every day. Yeah, it first every day we did these like we did live stuff. We've had a ton of interviews in here that are live. We did the recaps like we get to do interact with our readership. We get to interact with the readership and also like we get to bring the industry in front of people. Yeah. And like ask some questions. Yeah. And we do live with our readers, I mean, like we do most interviews live and people look at Twitter and we do questions like that's cool. Like that's why I like it. Yeah. I mean, it's really it is really like a visceral sort of like this stuff is happening at this moment. You know, people are reacting like we're sitting here doing this every day. People are reacting to it real time. And then the next day we're like talking about that stuff or thinking about it or sometimes like even during the show. It's just cool. And like obviously, I mean, it goes without saying maybe it doesn't go as I say, but like we our audience is big. It's much bigger than I ever expected it to be after two years of being in business. And at CES it just like surges. And you know, we've had some really big days and the audience has come and people are like reading these stories or commenting on them. People are like posting stuff in the forums. And you know, it's just great to just see it all working. Yeah. Sort of amazing. You know, after launching this two years ago, I feel like I do this every once in a while where I start to get a little romantic. A little misty? A little misty. But you know, after a while, you know, we launched this and it was like not a sure thing. No. Just to say like two years ago. And our first year here was a disaster. What's funny is, yeah, it was a little bit. It was a sequence of disasters. It started bad. Yeah, it started bad, but we got good. We got better fast. But what's funny is like you see like, you know, Walden Care just launched Recode. Yahoo Tech just launched David Pogge's new thing. Just sputtering it away. I'm not going to say anything about it anymore, but you know, I think you know how I feel. You know, all of a sudden, like everybody's like launching these like new tech sites and these new brands. But a couple of years ago, it was like, why would anybody do that? Who cares about that? And we were sure. Everybody thought the market was saturated. Right. They thought the market was saturated. We didn't know that this was going to be a thing. This could have been a complete disaster and it has not been. And that makes me feel very good and very happy. And I'm very proud and pleased to work with the team that we have because they're awesome people. And they're not just awesome like writers or reporters. They're awesome human beings that I enjoy spending time with. They're legitimately cool people. And they're weird and funny and uncoordinated. Uncoordinated sometimes. Is that happening? Yeah. Thomas has been Thomas has just been dying for Sam Byford. He's a lovely man, by the way. Lovely gentleman. He's a man in Japan. All he wants. Sam has a really true Sam Byford. He's just a very tall Sam Byford is a is a lanky dude. He lives in Japan and his arms are sewn on with yarn. He has a tendency. He has a tendency to I think we had we might have had a supercut or something of it last year. But he's a tendency when he gets near things that move to fall. He's a tendency to fall. He fell down in his living room. He was just standing there and he fell. Here he is. Is this is this the clip? I don't know. Do we have audio? Oh, this is yeah. This is classic Sam. Yeah, this is this is what we want to repeat. Well, we'd love we hope that he would get on something moving. So we've been putting him in precarious situations all week. Yeah. And he's getting off right now. We put him on even faster. Those old graphics are nice, man. I forgot what our old graphics look like. They're pretty cool. Totally like a distant memory. We have new graphics this year, which are all glitchy, which I really dig. But so, yeah, you've been trying to put Sam Byford in precarious position, increasingly dangerous, which I think is wrong and rude. And he did fall off the car last time we were randomly on his own. Ben Popper has just been hurting himself through. I know Ben. I'm getting Tate and Popper tased himself. Got punched. Punched that. Then he got to a hot tub with Sam Sheffrey. Can we get the video? Do you have the video of him tasing himself? It's the best. And there's a video of him getting punched. There's a discussion at some point of the headline being, don't tase myself, bro. There's just this picture of Carl just socking. But this is Ben, the guy who put a magnet in his finger. He's also an MMA guy. Also. He trains in MMA. He loves fighting. He loves getting injured. He loves getting injured. He's like, do you see his eye twitch? His eye twitched. You can't hear him there. He's like, it works. It definitely works. It definitely works. Anyhow, yeah, but hey, we have an amazing team. And they've just done a great job. I'm going to go get a beer. I'm going to go get a beer. I'm going to go get a beer. I'm going to go get a beer. Anyhow, yeah, but hey, we have an amazing team and they've just done amazing stuff. And we've got more to come. We actually have a few things that are going to go up tomorrow. We've got some big things tomorrow. We have a defining, a defining piece. And we also have Virge Awards, which are going up tomorrow. I've got to take this out. Just get it out. Just take it out. It's done. Where we pick what we think was the most impressive, exciting, and interesting stuff of the year. And it's going to be a great time. Have you given away your picks yet? My what? Have you given away your picks for tops? Oh, have I for top things? Yeah, have you said? Last night we talked about them a little bit. I was pretty vague. I'm actually like honestly. Well, you know, so here's the thing. So we have to like, we have to decide whether we're going to do like best laptop. Yeah. Right. And it's hard. Tom ran a report. Is there a best laptop? This is a little bit. We should just talk about this a little bit. Right. Yeah, there's not, there's not many. But Tom actually just put up, he just put up a report called, you know, Microsoft and platforms are nowhere to be found. And it's true. There's just no windows here. Like if this CS is a show of like sensors and things that connect to your phone and to your mobile devices, or like make your phone smarter in some way or extend your phone on the other screens, none of that stuff is running windows as far as I can tell, or windows phone or windows RT. And it's just kind of like Microsoft's here. They got a bunch of meeting rooms booked, right? The VPs are here. The senior leadership is here. Yeah. But their platform is nowhere here. And I don't know how we're going to give away best laptop. I don't know that we will. It's like a minor spec pub. That's the nice, you talked about this last night, but the nice thing about doing your own awards, like last year we did, you know, the categories that we chose are based on like what actually was happening. So it wasn't like we were locked into these static categories. And I think we'll do the same thing this year. But yeah, I mean, that's, that's tomorrow. And then it's, and then we're done really. I mean, Friday is, we'll probably have a few things that trickle out because there's always a few things, but God, I'm exhausted. I'm sorry, by the way, if I've been sniffling, I've been sniffling. I have a little bit. I'm so congested. It's out of control. This is the first time I've ever been sick at CES in my memory. Have you ever gotten sick here? Yeah. I've had problems. What kind of problems? I don't want to discuss them. Dirty, awful problems. Dirty problems. No. Neal, have you ever been sick here? No, I always get sick right afterwards. Oh yeah. That's what happened to me last year. Yeah, afterwards is bad. Cause your body is just like brutalized. Oh yeah, I mean, Becky has a complete, like now it's years later, so she's got a whole, she's like, she gets ready for me to leave. She like plans a whole week of like things she can do alone. And then she plans a whole week of avoiding the house cause I'm in it sick. So it's like, seriously, it's like two weeks where she's just annoyed with me. Well, I haven't gotten a flu shot and apparently I'm told that I have to get a flu shot before I go home. Yeah. Laura was like, don't come back if you don't have a flu shot. Don't come back. I can't get a flu shot. They once told me, I went in to get one and they said I couldn't. Cause you're a foreigner. I said I'm allergic to feathers. What? A lot of, a lot of silence there. What do you mean allergic to feathers? That's what they told me. I said, they said, do you have any allergies? I said I'm allergic to feathers and they said go away. They told me to go away. What do you mean you're allergic to feathers? This is like 20 years ago. What kind of feathers? What do you mean what kind of feathers? How do you know? Not all feathers are the same. Like that seems like a really obvious point. I don't know that much about feathers. Well, clearly. There are different kinds of feathers. Feathers, I don't know, feathers and pillows and. So you can't use like a down, you can't use like a down pillow? No. What kind of, what happens? Like red and watery. Dirty problems. Sniffles. Maybe there's feathers around you. Maybe that's your problem. You can be allergic to, oh man. Right now there's no feathers around me. You don't know that. Do you see any feathers around me? You can't see behind you. I think we have to wrap up. It's done. There's no feathers here. There's really nothing to talk about at this point. Look, this has been The Urge. My sign is The Urge is signing off from CES. Let's see really quickly. Can I take some Twitter questions? Just a few minutes. Let's take some Twitter questions. I was just going to say. Tweet at me. Twitter questions. Tweet at Neely. Tweet at Neely. At Reckless. Right now we only have a couple of minutes. I see people in control room, they're getting real sweaty. Yeah. And not in the good way. Not in the Sheffer way. Not in the Sam Sheffer way. So the reason we're in such a rush is because. What did you say to me? Unrelated? We are right next to the Gibson tent and they start throwing a rock concert. Gibson's going to have a rave here in about 10 minutes. Yeah. That's good. And there's going to be a guy. Someone just tweeted me the werewolf picture. Oh yeah, werewolves. Were werewolves the story of the show? I don't think so. There were a lot of werewolves here. I completely disagree. Yeah. Deerage, man. Yeah, that's great stuff. People that have questions. By the way, did you notice the werewolf has my beard and glasses? That's something I noticed. I didn't see it at first. Can we get a full screen of that? Are you buying a pebble? By the way. I want a pebble. By the way, my body does look like this if I take my shirt off. It's exactly as muscular and hairy as I am. So disturbing. Are those my eyes? No questions coming in. There are lots of questions coming in. What do you got? Are you going to buy a pebble? Like buy a pebble or the company? Yeah, you're going to buy the company. I'm going to wait to see what the review says before I buy. I don't know. I really like analog watches. I'm not totally sold on the smartwatch as a thing, but my point about the pebble was if I was going to buy one right now, that's probably the one I would buy because it looks the nicest in my opinion. Yeah, I agree. All right, what else you got? Are we going clubbing tonight from Birch Coffee? Definitely. That's tomorrow and tonight. You got to be careful when you go clubbing with hot coffee though. You don't want to spill any on your lap. I don't know what kind of weird sexual innuendo that was. Don't spill hot coffee on your lap. Was there anything that truly sucked? Anything that truly sucked. Well, there's a lot of things that truly sucked that we don't write about. Yeah, we ignore them. We try to shield our readers from that stuff as much as we can. Our gift to you, the reader, is that we don't want to waste your time with stuff that sucks. You want to read about the stuff that sucks, plenty of other websites you can go to check that out. The Verge, our goal is to deliver only the highest quality stuff to you. Best keynote of the year. Best keynote of this CES? It's got to be Johnny Shea. Well, Johnny Shea. You think so? I mean, Kaz was really great because- Better than Ledger? Ledger? We're used to his shtick now. It's a shtick now. We're used to his shtick. By the way, he told us he was going to come in for an interview again today. Failed. Well, we don't know yet. Day's not done. Day's not done. Day's not done. He told Dan, where are you guys located? I'll find you, come in, we'd love to do it. Ledger. John Ledger. Yeah. Get over here right now. Do an interview with us. Something's going on. Don't dodge us. We're asking you to come. You said you would come. It's time to come. That doesn't sound right, but you know what I mean. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You want to really prove that you're an Avenger, the Dark Knight? Swoop into our studio. Swoop into our studio. Bacon Man. What? Bacon Man. Bacon Beer Man? Bacon Man. No. We're going to bring some whiskey and bacon and we'll talk. Bring some whiskey and get into our studio. Wait a second. What was the question? Was there a question? All right, let's go. What else do we have? It was Best Keynote. Oh, Best Keynote. I think Johnny Shade was the... He's fantastic. This thing that he does where he's like... The delivery is amazing. That? Yeah. I want to just do something in life where I do, oh my God, he's doing it right here. Yeah. Can we get the audio? You know what's amazing about this is like, this is also shit. Every time we ask them to get audio, they're like, oh my God, the audio? We didn't know that was going to happen. Well... There we go. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to the ASUS Transformer Book Duet TD300. It is an Android laptop, a Windows laptop, tablet, and an Android tablet. It is also the world's first and only Intel fourth generation core processor running genuine DOS, and now you can own it starting $599. Yes. Thank you. Power. And then if you get some applause over the top, he's great. What we learned is that if you yell, people will clap. They don't know what to do. They're just doing it again. We can see more. WQHD monitor. Ladies and gentlemen, please allow me to introduce a complete lineup of Zenfone. Let's begin with the stylish and compact Zenfone 4. I don't get this. It has a 4-inch... It's an interesting UI idea....camera and comes with five vibrant colors starting at $99. Boom. Thank you. Also, like the cameraman, does the cameraman know to do that pull the zoom back? Yeah, the zoom back. Designed to run in- All right, that's enough of Johnny Sheen. Great stuff. Very good stuff. Somebody asked us who we think won the show, and I would say stay tuned. Stay tuned. We have a very real, powerful answer for that that'll be up very early tomorrow. What else? Have you been gambling? I gambled. I spent $2 on a slot machine when I got off the plane because Laura wanted me to for some reason that I don't really remember, and I lost immediately. Also, what is up with these slot machines? You can't work the arm. They just stop on their own. I'm getting back into the center of the frame. This is driving me crazy. No, it's okay. I got it. I already rolled over here. You don't even bother. Just have a seat. A real asshole. I don't mind rolling. I get to be closer to whatever. Where's your sweater from? Wait a second. Yeah. So that was it. I just... The slot machine normally... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But you can't... I mean, if you can't work those arm, you can't stop. They just stop on their own. This is not gambling. It's a random number generator. Yeah. Go ahead. Sweaters from Lisbon. Lisbon the place? Yeah, the city. Well, that could be a company. Oh, sorry. Lisbon Sweaters. Alright, what else? What else do you have? It's a really challenging question. Where you at? Yeah. One more question. Make it good. Were there any small companies that amazed you this year? There's been a couple. I feel like they're the same small companies that amazed us last year. Oculus and Pebble. Oculus and Pebble. Yeah. There's nothing really crazy. But I'm seeing a lot of, I think, yeah, I hung out with the NES guys yesterday. I'll put that video up a little bit later. What is this shit? It's an airplane. You know what they should have done is put the convention center somewhere other than in the path of the airport. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been convenient. Right? Or at least let you jump out of a plane directly to the convention center. Right into the CS. Yeah. No, I think it's like there's a bunch of home automation stuff that's interesting. I hung out with the NES guys. Oh. And that company has gone from zero to 1,000, right? And now they have a fire truck driving around. But like Revolve, the Canary guys, that stuff is really interesting. Yeah, Canary seems interesting. Honeywell's coming for you. Honeywell's coming for you. Yeah. Honeywell in Europe has a home automation system that's actually pretty decent. All right. Let's continue that on the homecast where we talk about the new version of the game. We've got a lot more coming tomorrow, by the way. There's a lot more coming tomorrow, including some The Verge Awards, which you're going to want to check out. There's going to be some shocks and some surprises. And I think a relatively definitive, at least our definitive answer to who won CES. That's the Vergecast. We will be back, presumably, next week with a regular Vergecast. And I'm not going to tell you how you can find us, because if you're watching right now, you should know. And don't make me come over there. We're done. And you have to go, and we have to go. What, do I have to threaten somebody? And as always, it's not a threat. It's just a fact that even though I'm going to wish you and your family all the best, they're in the greatest danger they've ever been in. And nothing can stop what's going to happen. My mom's coming from overhead. Nothing can stop what's going to happen to you. | [
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"text": " No, he's trimmed down a little bit."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " So this is the Vergecast after hours, but we're still within hours."
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"text": " Friday is like the breakdown day here."
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"text": " And we wouldn't have a place to do it."
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"text": " A parking lot."
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"text": " Yeah, or Hot Boxing in the car."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Thanks to the sweet weed that Thomas brought over from Amsterdam."
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"text": " So we thought-"
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"text": " So we're not going to talk about the show that much."
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"text": " You haven't had a chance to talk about it."
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"text": " Thomas, bring a fresh perspective to what you've seen this week."
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"text": " Wow."
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"text": " Support of the show, everyone."
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"text": " And everybody freaked out about it because we took some really beautiful, beautiful photos."
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"text": " No, but my favorite product to see us last year was a non-functioning shell."
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"text": " It was Sony's Circle with a Light, Blu-ray era, HD."
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"text": " Now we just don't go because we send so many other people."
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"text": " Those are hugely stressful."
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"text": " It gets kind of weird every year because this is where the first stories of CS break."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " That's the first press-related event."
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"text": " Time is relative."
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"text": " I actually never set my watch."
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " If I go somewhere for two days, I don't set it."
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"text": " There's no way I can't change it."
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"text": " You're all right."
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"text": " No."
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"text": " You should have a chain wall and a pocket watch would be an appropriate addition."
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"text": " By the way, do you remember-"
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"text": " Like little tablets on chains."
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"text": " Oh, you don't remember this, but earlier today I made a joke about an Airbus A320, and I"
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"text": " I was like, I knew a lot about planes, unrelated to everything that we're talking about right"
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"text": " So what's your thing of the show?"
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"text": " Is it the Polaroid Cube?"
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"text": " No, definitely not."
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"text": " I mean, okay, let's talk about Polaroid for a little bit."
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"text": " It's a shell, right?"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " It's a name."
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"text": " It's a name, and the name gets licensed out to whoever wants it, which is fascinating"
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"text": " because you pick up one Polaroid product, and you think, oh, this is a piece of shit,"
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"text": " right?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " In fact, most of them are."
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"text": " But they actually have nothing to do with each other."
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"text": " Well, that's my headline."
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"text": " So they have a lot of the old Instamatic cameras in the booth."
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"text": " From Instagram they're trying to reclaim their Polaroid-y-ness."
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"text": " Did you?"
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"text": " Dieter and I..."
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"text": " I mean, that's kind of one of my top picks."
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"text": " It was a dry, it was a dry."
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"text": " I will say that we tried the Oculus Crystal Cove yesterday and that was so incredible."
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"text": " Have you seen it?"
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"text": " Do you guys have that available?"
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"text": " Because we've showed it in the morning, but maybe not everybody's seen it."
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"text": " You're used to that."
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"text": " This is the regrettable thing about what I do at the show is I'm mostly like running"
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"text": " Is this it?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Let's take a look at this."
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"text": " This is not."
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"text": " You're in a virtual reality right now."
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"text": " Look how realistic this is."
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"text": " Or no?"
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"text": " I don't know why I'm looking."
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"text": " I have you on my headset."
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"text": " Okay, here it is."
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"text": " Oh my God."
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"text": " What's happening?"
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},
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"text": " What the hell?"
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"text": " This is, I have to say, this is, I'm not able to do words right now."
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"start": 1033.72,
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"text": " wait, wait, wait, wait."
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"text": " What the fuck?"
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"text": " The whole thing for one second, I'll tell it to you."
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"text": " It looks straight forward."
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"text": " Now you can Oculus face all your..."
},
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"start": 1045.72,
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"text": " Look up."
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"text": " Look in front of you."
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"text": " This is not good. I'm totally hung over."
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{
"start": 1053.72,
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"text": " Look at this!"
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"text": " This is stupid."
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"text": " This is like Hanukkah. I'm sorry I'm so giggly."
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"text": " Whoa."
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"text": " This is like being hugged by a video game."
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"text": " These guys are really cool."
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"start": 1076.72,
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"text": " Got big bellies."
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"text": " Could you put them together?"
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"text": " I really want to pick these guys up, like..."
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"text": " But I can't."
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"text": " This is very disorienting because I can see my hand."
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"text": " And it's like, I want to kill it."
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"text": " Squashing guys."
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"text": " Wait, so how do I kill this thing?"
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"text": " Okay, I killed someone."
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"text": " You guys saw that, right?"
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"text": " Okay, I just want to kill things."
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"text": " Is anyone dead yet? Oh, he's dead."
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"text": " I can shoot them? Oh, I got one."
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"text": " Dude."
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"text": " Dude."
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"text": " That's a table."
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"text": " Okay, there's a table there."
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"text": " This is amazing."
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"text": " And I never want to take it off."
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"text": " I mean, I'm not going to take it off."
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"text": " No, but no, no, no, no."
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"text": " I feel amazing right now."
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"text": " I really don't want you to take this off of me."
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"text": " Welcome back to Vegas."
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"text": " Oh, wow."
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"text": " That's cool."
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"text": " And the stuff they've done where they fixed the timing and the..."
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"text": " It's a higher resolution now, right?"
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"text": " Higher resolution."
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"text": " They're getting that a lot faster."
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"text": " And now it has positional tracking in addition to the motion sensing."
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"text": " And it's pretty crazy."
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"text": " Like that cave, the thing..."
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"text": " So here's what's interesting."
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"text": " That demo they showed was a seated demo where you're not moving around."
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"text": " What was most interesting about it was when you turned around"
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"text": " I mean, it was really insane."
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"text": " It feels insane."
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"text": " I'm so jealous."
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"text": " I didn't even know you guys did this."
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"text": " This is the first time I've seen of this."
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"text": " You blew it."
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " I think you were getting high or something."
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"text": " You were like, I got to go get my gravity bomb."
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"text": " No, I think you were just out of the trailer."
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"text": " I think you were off doing..."
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"text": " It was 420 at the time."
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"text": " The clock struck 420."
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"text": " Is it 420 right now?"
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"text": " No, it's not."
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"text": " Would you guys buy one of these?"
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " You would?"
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"text": " Not yet."
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"text": " I would buy it."
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"text": " What about with that running treadmill?"
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"text": " No, I would buy it."
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"text": " The Ellis thing, yeah."
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"text": " So Ellis did this thing on the running treadmill,"
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"text": " which is basically an Oculus and a treadmill that you run on."
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"text": " And he was like, he came back and I saw him and I was like,"
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"text": " whoa, buddy, did you go out last night?"
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"text": " And he's like, no, I did a virtual reality thing"
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"text": " and it was too real."
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"text": " And he just like drifted in a super nauseated state"
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"text": " around the trailer for a while."
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"text": " I mean, I get very nauseous with the dev version."
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"text": " This latency is much higher and it makes people more."
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"text": " This is the Virtuix Omni."
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"text": " I mean, this looks crazy to me."
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"text": " This thing is cool though."
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"text": " They said they're going to sell this for like $400."
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"text": " Yeah, this is the second generation because Paul did one."
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"text": " Paul did one last year."
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"text": " But it looks like they've really improved the walk-in."
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"text": " Yeah, yeah, it's much better."
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"text": " Like this is nuts."
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"text": " I mean, this looks terrifying."
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"text": " I mean, imagine the higher resolution, you know,"
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"text": " low or zero latency in this thing with that,"
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"text": " when we saw this thing as pre-OVR,"
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"text": " which is you wear kind of like a chest thing and an arm thing."
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"text": " Imagine you got that on."
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"text": " But can we really not figure anything better to do"
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"text": " than kill stuff in these games?"
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"text": " Well, no, that's the next step."
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"text": " You know, I was actually talking to the Oculus guys."
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"text": " Oh, no, Addy was talking to them."
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"text": " We had several conversations."
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"text": " the controller is now the problem because when you get into it,"
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"text": " and you saw, by the way, in that video,"
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"text": " everybody was going like this."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Because what happens is when you're in there,"
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"text": " you want to interact the way you interact with the real world."
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"text": " You want to be able to touch things."
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"text": " And like you can't do it."
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"text": " I wouldn't be surprised if we see them start to work on some thing"
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"text": " that is like your hands are now like part of the simulation."
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"text": " And I think that's kind of the next step because, you know,"
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"text": " it's like we are just like killing things, you know."
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"text": " It's like you're in there with a gun."
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"text": " Like that's cool."
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"text": " But it's like one thing you can do,"
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"text": " and you don't want to be doing it all the time."
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"text": " we're definitely at the beginning of real like crazy virtual reality stuff."
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"text": " Like it's happening now."
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"text": " I don't think that it's not going to not happen."
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"text": " I think that it's cheap enough to do."
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"text": " I think there's huge consumer interest."
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"text": " I think that the graphics are good enough that they feel realistic."
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"text": " And they did that thing, you know,"
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{
"start": 1349.72,
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"text": " the screen is still not as great as I'd want it to be."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " But that's the thing where it does have a really high,"
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"text": " Yeah, but like those are all like high."
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"text": " Well, that's really the ultimate is like how do you sell it to consumers?"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " How do you get consumers to want it?"
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"text": " You know, I think I probably said this, I've said this a few times."
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"text": " They need to figure out how to make movies for that thing."
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"text": " Where like it's a murder mystery and you like walk around a house."
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"text": " No, I mean imagine."
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"text": " Imagine like Oculus Clue."
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"text": " Yeah, or that you can say like I want to be in this character's head"
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"text": " for half the movie."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " And then I'll switch to another character."
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"text": " They should really bring back, I don't know if you're listening to me, Palmer."
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"text": " You should definitely shoot Clue, the movie Clue for the Oculus Rift."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " But you should shoot it and that should be like an Oculus release thing that you do."
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"text": " You should do an Oculus Verge cast."
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"text": " Where you can go inside."
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"text": " You can just walk around us."
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"text": " Here's a scene from Clue."
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"text": " By the way, is Christopher Lloyd in Clue?"
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " Christopher Lloyd is in Clue and I don't want to say there's some magical stuff happening,"
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"text": " but you know we just saw Christopher Lloyd recently playing the role of Doc Brown."
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"text": " I'm actually really, here's what I'm mostly disturbed about."
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"text": " We were so quickly able to bring up Clue."
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"text": " But our own content is much longer."
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"text": " Give us a minute, but Clue we got on tap, no problem."
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"text": " Yeah, it's funny you should mention that."
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"text": " So let's get real though."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Let's talk about The Verge at CES."
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"text": " Are you working right now?"
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"text": " I can't."
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"text": " I'm sorry, are you too busy to spend an hour with us?"
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"text": " I'm fucking dying."
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"text": " Are you still talking?"
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"text": " Can we just get it out there?"
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"text": " This may be my last ever Verge cast."
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"text": " This may be my last day on Earth."
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"text": " This may be my last day."
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"text": " And you know what, I don't regret a thing except not doing a ton of drugs."
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"text": " That's the one thing I regret."
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"text": " It's not even true because I took a photo of a stack of drugs sitting by your desk yesterday."
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"text": " I did have some super awesome NyQuil."
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"text": " I took NyQuil last night at midnight, but it didn't kick in until like when I was sleeping."
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"text": " And I woke up and then it kicked in and now I've just felt like a complete maniac all day."
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"text": " Which is different than how I normally feel, in case you're wondering."
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"text": " Here's the thing about CES time and why I like it."
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"text": " Why I think it's the most magical time of the year."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " First off, it comes after the second most magical time of the year, Xmas."
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"text": " I'm just like this chair is just hopelessly drifting."
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"text": " Did you oil the floor here?"
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"text": " Did you lubricate, lube on the floor?"
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"text": " What's happening?"
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"text": " I'm just getting crazy in here."
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"text": " Anyhow, as I was saying before, my lubed chair rolled towards ecstasy."
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"text": " What was I saying?"
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " The verge."
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"text": " Okay, everybody hates CES."
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"text": " Everybody who comes here, all the journalists are like, oh God."
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"text": " And you know, I think we feel the same way in some way."
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"text": " We don't hate CES, but we're like the holidays just ended."
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"text": " We just did New Year's."
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"text": " November is always crazy."
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"text": " You know, like the fall is insane."
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"text": " And then you're like, now in six days I have to fly to Las Vegas, which is, you know, I'm sorry for people who live in Las Vegas."
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"text": " It's a terrible place to be."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " But as a city, it's fucked up."
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"text": " And it's just really, it's like dry."
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"text": " No, Steven Greenwood was like, had a picture in our video chat room and he was like, I got to go take care of this."
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"text": " So you fell out of that blood and you just went about your business?"
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"text": " We lost Greenwood, unfortunately."
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"text": " Rip."
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"text": " Rip Steven."
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"text": " But, you know, Vegas is insane."
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"text": " There's like hookers everywhere."
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"text": " Are there?"
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"text": " Tom Warren saved somebody's life today."
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"text": " Yeah, can you tell me the story?"
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"text": " What happened?"
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"text": " Tom Warren apparently."
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"text": " I don't know if I know all the details, but."
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"text": " Make them up."
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"text": " Yeah, this we invented."
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"text": " It's the Verge cast."
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"text": " Apparently they were walking towards the."
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"text": " Wait, hold on."
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"text": " Can I just say like, this looks like Charlie."
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"text": " Can you go back to Thomas's?"
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"text": " Yeah, yeah, this is like straight up Charlie Rose right here."
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"text": " It's so good."
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"text": " Sorry, not unrelated to everything."
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"text": " Go on."
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"text": " So apparently they were walking."
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"text": " We're not too far from the from the from the from the hotel."
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"text": " I mean, everybody for everyone's."
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " Docs or hotel."
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"text": " I don't need to."
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"text": " Everybody."
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"text": " I don't need stalkers coming in there, raping me to death."
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"text": " Or so the threatening letters I've received have said."
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"text": " So they're coming back."
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"text": " on the ground, like looking for things."
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"text": " And he looked up at Tom and said something about you think I'm crazy, don't you?"
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"text": " And Tom was like, and of course, Omar."
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"text": " Oh, I remember this story."
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"text": " He walked over to him and started striking up a conversation."
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"text": " Are you the weirdest thing here?"
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"text": " I'm going to talk to you."
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"text": " He's like, what are you saying?"
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"text": " He goes, you wouldn't believe me if I told you."
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"text": " And so, oh my God, I would like to know."
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"text": " He's writing, I mean, he's doing profiles of people that are here."
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"text": " So it turns out, I don't know how they found out, but they saw a missing persons ad and"
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"text": " this guy is a missing person."
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"text": " Oh my God."
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"text": " Did he come to the show?"
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"text": " How did he see the ad?"
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"text": " Did he come to see us?"
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"text": " These are the details I don't know."
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"text": " Did he attendee?"
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " I don't know all the details."
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"text": " I don't know all the details."
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"text": " But anyway, so Tom saw that and he called up the number and indeed, like his wife was"
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"text": " looking for him."
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"text": " He had missed a flight."
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"text": " He got in some kind of bad ass trip."
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"text": " Oh my God."
},
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"text": " What?"
},
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"text": " Yeah, he was seriously like."
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"text": " Did this really happen?"
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"text": " Yeah, he called him up and he's like the cops."
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"text": " Yeah, they came and picked him up."
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"text": " Well, I don't know if they're the cops, but somebody came and picked him up."
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"text": " That is crazy."
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"text": " We should write about that."
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"text": " I made up half of it."
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"text": " Yeah, exactly."
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"text": " He's like, take this, and he cramps the bacon in your mouth."
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"text": " Go back here."
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"text": " In my previous job."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " You have to do it with your own hands."
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"text": " There they are."
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"text": " Can we zoom in on that?"
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"text": " I thought this was code for smoking weed the entire time."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Oh, this is yeah."
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"text": " And he's getting off right now."
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"text": " Those old graphics are nice, man."
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"text": " I've got to take this out."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " And it's hard."
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"text": " Yeah, there's not, there's not many."
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"text": " What kind of problems?"
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"text": " No, I always get sick right afterwards."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Laura was like, don't come back if you don't have a flu shot."
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"text": " A lot of, a lot of silence there."
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"text": " What do you mean you're allergic to feathers?"
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"text": " This is like 20 years ago."
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"text": " What kind of feathers?"
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"text": " What do you mean what kind of feathers?"
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"text": " How do you know?"
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"text": " Not all feathers are the same."
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"text": " Like that seems like a really obvious point."
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"text": " I don't know that much about feathers."
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"text": " Well, clearly."
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"text": " Yeah, that's great stuff."
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"text": " You want to really prove that you're an Avenger, the Dark Knight?"
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"text": " Can we get the audio?"
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"text": " You know what's amazing about this is like, this is also shit."
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"text": " Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to the ASUS Transformer Book Duet TD300."
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"text": " And then if you get some applause over the top, he's great."
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"text": " WQHD monitor."
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"text": " Ladies and gentlemen, please allow me to introduce a complete lineup of Zenfone."
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"text": " Also, like the cameraman, does the cameraman know to do that pull the zoom back?"
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"text": " All right, that's enough of Johnny Sheen."
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"text": " Great stuff."
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"text": " Very good stuff."
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"text": " Somebody asked us who we think won the show, and I would say stay tuned."
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"text": " Stay tuned."
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"text": " We have a very real, powerful answer for that that'll be up very early tomorrow."
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"text": " What else?"
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"text": " Have you been gambling?"
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"text": " I gambled."
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"text": " You can't work the arm."
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It doesn't go to the rectum. Not the rectum I was pretty sure that's a rectum item. You've got one out of two here's your third product this is a paper airplane this is a paper airplane with a propeller on the back of it I'm just describing what I'm seeing right now okay this is some new paper drone that has an app that you control using an iPhone uh... you can make your own paper airplane and then you put this little clip on the back of it or something and then uh... you know i think it's a bluetooth powered paper airplane uh... that's perfect. I don't feel like I'm being greatly challenged here you clip it on the paper plane and you can control it. I don't mind telling you but I'm a technology expert. You know I think we might have underestimated you. I'm owning you so hard right now it's not even funny. Alright well let's see. How does it feel to be owned this hard? It feels like every day at home. Two out of three my man. It feels just like the office. And as Meat Loaf said that ain't bad alright this is it this is for pure domination Josh. Okay here we go. Do I win something? Oh wait hold on that's a circuit board those are hands it's a person's hand this is a uh... oh it's a breathalyzer this is a uh... open source breathalyzer that anybody can use it's got an open API oh no this is a vaping product open source vaping digital vapor is what this product is. Alright you know what that's close enough. It's actually a biometric vaporizer and what it does is I called that. Yes. uh... it basically doesn't let kids do it. It basically locks your fingerprint in. I don't think it could be I don't think my dominance in the technology space can be challenged at this point. You know I think when we came to this game show we thought I thought you had a little bit less sleep. No I'm high on NyQuil right now. I mean I'm not. Clearly bowed down to the king. Maybe I need to be on NyQuil more often. Maybe that's the key here. Is this the end of the show? So that is it for naming that product and look in all seriousness we've had a lot of crazy crazy gadgets out there but the one that we think the last couple years really does change how we perceive the industry has been the Oculus Rift. Virtual Reality headset has impressed a lot of people. They're back this year with a brand new version and you know for fun we thought we'd let the entire staff just kind of try it out and of course we filmed the reactions. Take a look. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god what's happening? Oh my god. Oh my god. What the hell? This is, this is, this is, I have to say this is I'm not able to do words right now. Holy crap. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait a minute. What the fuck? Look straight forward. This is not good I'm totally hung over in this. Look at this. This is, this is stupid. This is like Hanukkah. I'm sorry I'm so giggly. It's just, whoa. This is like being hugged by a video game. These guys are really cool. Got big bellies. Could you put them together? I really want to pick these guys up like, but I can't. This is very disorienting because I can see my hand and it's like I want to kill it. Squashing guys. Wait so how do I kill this thing? Okay I killed someone. You guys saw that right? Okay I just want to kill things. Is anyone dead yet? Oh he's dead. I can shoot them. Oh I got one. I got that guy. Dude. Dude. That's a table. Oh. Okay there's a table there. This is amazing and I never want to take it off. I mean I'm not going to take it off. Oh I don't want to leave. This is the best thing. No but no but no no no. I feel amazing right now. I really don't want you to take this off of me. Welcome back to Vegas. Oh wow. That's cool. Pretty incredible. Can I just say I'm really jealous that I didn't get to do the Oculus Rift this year. Yeah you were too busy. Oh wait there's a jet landed in the parking lot. Please excuse us. You're just naming products left and right. I mean you really think you just use to point things out. This is an Airbus 320 actually. Outfitted with the dual hydraulic cylinder boost. And that's not a thing. I made that up. That's a made up product. Well I think the 320 is an actual plane. No but really interesting to see reactions. I actually when we brought the new version in. First off I had already experienced it obviously a bunch of times. So I wasn't expecting to have much of a reaction. There were a few people here who had never used it before. But several people had used it. And so I thought well we'll see what the reactions are. And there definitely was like. I was actually kind of blown away because of the detail. Some of the stuff they've done. The latency stuff they've addressed. The resolution. You still see some of the pixels but it's much higher resolution than the last version. And the positioning. The positioning tracking. But now it requires a separate camera too right? Yeah it has an external camera that kind of senses your. That's what those white dots are. They are communicating information to that sensor. But I was actually really impressed. I thought that it wouldn't be that big of a jump. And it was a big jump. And a lot of people here. What was interesting is that the reaction was not this raw surprise of having never done it before. But it was like they were so immersed in it. There were a lot of people who came out and were like I don't want to be out here. I want to go back in. And also there's a part of the demo where you see stuff flying around where people are dodging it. And I think that because of the changes in latency and the resolution that feels so much more visceral than the previous stuff did. Right and I'm curious how diminished the motion blur is too. We have people on staff who do suffer from motion sickness. We didn't get them to try it unfortunately. I really would have loved them to see the reaction. Especially if it went bad. I mean the latency is greatly reduced which helps that there was very little blurring to my eyes. And what's interesting is that the game that we were playing was a stationary game. It was essentially like a tower defense game. And I spoke to the Oculus guys and they really wanted to show off the Rift as a device that you can use for gaming that isn't just FPS. Because there's a certain segment, in fact the CEO, Brendan, told me there's a certain segment of people that are just always going to feel some bit of motion sickness no matter what playing a really fast moving game like a first person shooter. And so I think they're now trying to get to this point where they're showing hey look there's a bunch of different things you can do with the Oculus Rift. It isn't just about like you're playing Quake. Although you know Quake would be great in the Oculus Rift. Not to mention with the new Virtuix too where you can just run in place. Yeah that's actually really cool. That's something that we put up a report about this yesterday. Ellis Hamburger went to try out this device. We checked it out last year which I think was in much rougher shape. I think it was using a Kinect sensor. Yes the Virtuix Omni. And they're pairing it with the dev set of the Oculus Rift which is much more light and lower resolution and doesn't have the position tracking. But now they're getting ready to ship this thing and it actually looks a lot better. Though Ellis said that he was extremely nauseous on it. Oh sure. If you watch the video you can just see him running in place. It's a little bit kind of like disoriented. I do think it definitely looks like a better experience than it was last time. I'm sure the new headset would probably help. But now we're getting to the point where like I remember when I was growing up in the 90's there was a blockbuster arcade where I was living. And they had the big virtual reality machines. This was a big deal for when I was growing up. And it was just, to me it was super impressive. But it was definitely something you walked away just wanting to throw up. Yeah. So that's something we did yesterday. We should talk a little bit about T-Mobile had their press event yesterday. Which by the way we should issue some of the correction. We should issue a statement here. We've been pronouncing the CEO of T-Mobile's name as John Legere. Yes. It's apparently John Ledger. Which sounds frighteningly similar to John Legend. And both of them are at CES. So it's a little confusing. But one is an insane maniac CEO and the other is John Legend. So it's pretty easy to tell them apart. Usually. Yeah. So yeah. John I can't say it. John Ledger. Which also sounds like leisure. Yes. John Ledger got on stage yesterday and announced that T-Mobile was going to do was going to pay for your ETF, your early termination fee. If you're on AT&T right now he will give you $350 to leave or whatever your ETF fee is to come over to T-Mobile. This is also per lines. If you have family. Yeah. You'll go do it for up to five people on a family plan. Right. Which is pretty crazy but you have to turn your device into them. So they're going to take that device and refurbish it and resell it and make it fully committed. Right. Exactly. But you know what's interesting about what they announced yesterday, which is really the only big announcement yesterday. Really was. I mean when Surya... Right. We're almost almost done with the show but the interesting thing is they don't really talk about how they're building out their network. You know Dan Seifert who is actually at the show got up and asked him a question about the network. He was like why? What are you doing about your network being so bad? And I think I was like going crazy about this on the Vergecast last night. But I do think they what's interesting about the T-Mobile stuff is that I think they have some really good ideas and it seems very exciting but they do have network issues. T-Mobile stinks in my neighborhood. And they're not talking about how they're going to address that part of the process. Yeah. Which I think is really important. And not to echo too much what Neil I was saying yesterday but it is a chicken and egg problem. They need customers and money to make more antennas to get more customers and money. Right. And then to do this they just need some catalyst to like get out and the catalyst of course was these uncarrier plans, was the brashness of the attitude. Which isn't just John Legere anymore it's also what's his name? I think Neville his CTO. Yeah. Neville. I like his wardrobe here. He's just like you know guys I'm going to wear the pink t-shirt. You guys are going to wear, he's got like this chain on. When was the last time he wore a dress shirt? I guess his dude's wearing a t-shirt too. It's a very casual look for the T-Mobile guys. They want you to know they're down to earth regular bros. You can have a beer with them. It's no big deal. Neil I has this theory that this is all a put on that like you know a year ago he was this executive in a suit and some short hair. Corporate raider in like a suit with a short haircut and he let his hair grow out and became the John Legere that we know and love. And like the tough thing is like whether or not he is if you're going to be cynical about it or you're going to be hopeful but like the end result is still somewhat the same. Like it's still a more compelling plan. No I agree. If you're in a great coverage area and you never travel like slam dunk. So I've been asked you this and I'd like to know what have you seen of the show? What's the most interesting and exciting thing you've seen of the show and what's the lamest thing you've seen? All right well I actually to be perfectly honest I haven't been on the show floor yet. Yeah but you know theverge.com has a lot of amazing coverage of the show. Had I done the game I'd be screwed. You would have been blown because I'm owning everybody in my knowledge of technology. You know I think the lamest thing is more of a category idea. It's just like it's smartphones in general because it's so ubiquitous. It's so same see. And it's not that it's bad. It was just boring to me. I was like but the most impressive thing was this idea. And like it was it was Kaz Urai's keynote and at the very end we started talking about Lifestream UX and then he got to that speech about what Sony wants to represent. Like no more commodity where you know we're here for the high end. We're here for aspiration. I thought that was just a beautiful moment for Sony getting back on track. Yeah. And let me make something like when I first yes I came here was when the Howard Stringer keynote was where he brought Dr. Oz out he showed like. Classic. Very classic things. I think Kelly Foxx played one year. That was like peak CS like let's just throw a celebrity on stage. And I used to love that stuff because it was just spectacle but now I'm really loving the Sony stuff because they're actually trying to get back on track. Yeah. And you're using the Xperia phone. I've got to say I'm a little jealous about that. I have to say I really I was thinking about this last night. It's funny because I went to a meeting with Kaz and there were a couple of other journalists there. I was the only person with a Sony phone which I think is interesting. But I think if they put the marketing in for this I think this actually could be a really successful product. I mean unfortunately their only carrier right now for it is T-Mobile. But I actually think Sony's capable of making good products. And this phone while it does have some bloatware on it and stuff that I don't like which you can pretty much disable all of it. It's really good. Right. You know and it's well made and it's got a great camera. You know there's some issues with the screen but they're not deal breakers in any way. But Sony is capable of making amazing stuff. I think whether you think the games are good for it the PS4 is clearly a successful console. It's actually and I'm very surprised it is. It's more successful than Xbox One. More successful than Xbox One even though I would you know if you go into my head like which one would you get I would get the Xbox One because I think it's more of a cohesive solution. And I did so. But what Kaz Harai was describing and what he talked to me about this idea of the cloud TV service and PlayStation Now and things like that they really are talking about creating this sort of completely connected entertainment experience which I think everybody talks about but I think Sony could actually do based on the lessons they've learned over the last 10 years of what not to do. And what was so impressive like so obviously Sony had two press conferences. One was the very boring here's our new phones here's our new cameras whatever. That was a very disappointing press conference but the Kaz Harai thing was like look we think projectors in the home high screen images you can change what your wall looks like. Like that's crazy stuff and then he goes oh by the way that is real and we are going to bet money and release it. Yeah. I mean they definitely got he definitely got the right the message right. And the message is Sony needs to be a leader. We need to try crazy things. We need to innovate and not just copy what everybody else is doing. And I do think like for most companies that should be a lesson right. It's you know the more the more Android for example got different from what the iPhone was doing the lesson became like a grid of icons and just trying to ape what the iPhone was doing the better it became as an operating system. I think Matias Duarte had a lot to do with that. Sort of pushing the design forward. And I think you see Google owning its own sort of design concepts and its own path and that's how they've sort of grown into the company they are right now. I think Sony for a long time just sort of languished. So sort of didn't really know what it wanted to be or who it was and now they're like oh we're Sony. We invent amazing things. And I hope they actually end up doing some amazing things because of that mindset. I agree with you. That was a really cool that was a really cool moment. I have to say I think this is this show was you know last year the talk was before the show everybody was like man it's going to be a terrible show. CS is over. Why does it matter? And it was a really exciting show. This year I think proves my I wrote an editorial the last day of the year. The Age of the Upgrade. The Age of the Upgrade which was about our awareness of technology and how it's become a really normal part of our lives and how we expect things to be upgraded. You expect a phone to get a bigger screen or a better camera. You expect your TV that there's going to be a new TV next year with smart TV functions or whatever. And I think that my point of the editorial was what interests me and I think what is increasingly interesting to most people is not the hey my phone got an upgrade. It's like you know they release new stoves all the time but you're not like oh man what are the stoves doing this year. Because they've become like a product that we're familiar with and we're used to. And my point was innovation doesn't happen on product release cycles. And this CES is a great example of innovation not happening on a product release cycle. You know Pebble they introduced a new smart watch. Last year we were really excited because they had this Kickstarter project that became a real watch that you could buy. And it was really cool that it had really never been done before. This year they have version two which is nicer looking and it comes in a couple of different styles. But it's really the same watch right? And they're just making iterative changes to it. It's the same watch in a functional standpoint but we're talking about form and the form has improved. But that's the incremental stuff. But then you see like hey we're doing curved TVs this year or everybody's got their fitness ban because that's become a thing. That is incremental. That's not really that's not the kind of innovation that you want to see. But you can't do that crazy innovation every year. You can't have a new Oculus Rift every year. And so I think we are in this period where there's going to be a little bit of a push and pull. We're going to go through periods where your smart phone isn't going to get dramatically better. It's going to get a little bit better. But on the flip side we're going to have things like the Model S and bullet trains and doing infrastructure and energy initiatives and things that are like really big. I think that to me is reflected really well this year because everything here feels really small to me. All of the innovation all of the announcements feels like totally incremental, totally small I would not say inconsequential just not deeply meaningful. And that's like my take away from the show basically. I'm just like on a complete rant now. You're just sitting here and I'm just like ranting. And I just feel like yeah we're both really burnt. We've done a million shows while we've been here and I think we have to wrap up because we're probably reaching our 25 minute time. We're a little over there. Are we over it? Yeah we're doing well. Well we just start 10 minutes late though. Still I have exactly 25 minutes according to my clock. At any rate I think we probably need to wrap up. So today we've got a lot more news that's going to happen. We've got some really interesting reports going up today and tomorrow. Some in depth reporting on what's happening here at the show. Some stuff that you really haven't seen yet and maybe haven't thought about. And then tonight we've got Verge Mobile Show. Vergecast. I'm going to sneeze because I'm very sick. The Vergecast After Hours which will be the last one of CES unfortunately. We are setting down the studio. Yeah so after Thursday night, on Friday it's the kind of studio breakdown. So today will be our final shows from here from CES. And you know it's a little bittersweet but also I'm extremely tired and so I'm very happy to not do any more shows from CES. You know we come to CES every year going I can't believe we're doing this. I'm so angry. We come here. We fall in love with it. We're so happy. By Friday this was great. And then we go back to 11 months of dreading. Yeah. I don't know. I think by the end of CES I'm like I don't ever want to do this again. By day, by whatever let's see. It'll be day six for me or something tomorrow. You know six days of CES is of doing all the planning and all the work. All the dryness of Las Vegas. All the dryness. Yeah. So much blood coming out of my nose. It's out of control. And not from the Coke abuse. So okay I think that's a great way to end. A lovely note. So that's first. Thank you guys so much for watching. We really appreciate the fact that people have tuned in. Like lots of people. We've had a huge audience this year and that's awesome. 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It smells like man. First off, we have a lot of female... There are a lot of female members of the team. Yes, there are. Don't be bringing this new-fangled sexism. No, but no, it doesn't matter. The ratio, here's what I know. It doesn't matter how much you can commit. The men will overpower with their smell. Yes. You can have one dude and 500 ladies. You lock that dude in a room alone, it's just gonna smell like dude. That's because men are at the top or the best. Of the smelly chain. Women are just off to the side. Who are the smelliest of types? Anyhow. Men. We got a burger bar over there. We got all the fix-ins. It's like a Hardee's. It is incredible. It is, actually. I ate all your French fries. We can all go and have a hamburger. We got veggie burgers. There's French fries. Yeah, sweet potato fries. There was sweet potato fries. Actually, they're not coming. There's no more coming. What do you mean? The man who brought them said there's no more sweet potato fries. 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You're wearing it in the wrong way. You're wearing it in the wrong way. You're wearing it in the wrong way. You're wearing it in the wrong way. Right, because it's to look official. It's to work for ABC News. Speaking of official. Speaking of trolls, let's talk about John Legere. Let's talk about ABC News. Why did you leave? It seems like you left the verge to go to ABC News. It seemed like things were going to be great. And now you're on to the next thing. This is a great opportunity. You can't stop moving. When are you going to settle down? When I'm at the top. And that's where I am. Remember, you heard it here first. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. You heard it here first.不会 She's coming for you. In the night, you're a dead man. Oh my god. You should read Hatching Twitter. That's what happened. I just saw Nick Bunton. Did you read that? I saw Nick, yeah. It's a great guy. Great guy who was going to gamble, and if he wins, I've told him to put 20 down for me. Yeah. This could be a big night for me. Yeah. By the way, I tweeted $4,000, and you can get a MacBook Air instead of a baby. I think that's probably true. All right. We know what you mean by that. We'll take this off. I intend to procure a child. All right, let's carry on. What's your device of the show, Joanna? It's pretty impressive when I feel uncomfortable. Me too. So congratulations, you two. You would. Joanna, we're at CES, the Consumer Electronics Show. Yeah. What's your gadget of the show? What's your product of the show? What do you love it? I've been thinking about this question all day. Boy, I hope you don't say that toothbrush. I was about to say the toothbrush. Why is it the toothbrush? You bombed last year with the fork. ABC was all over the fork. You were like, fork this, fork that. And then you just reviewed the fork. How's the fork? Fork you. It's a great product. You're like, fork this. I actually reviewed the fork for my first column in the Wall Street Journal. By the way, Joanna is a columnist at the Wall Street Journal, the acclaimed story newspaper. It was actually a peg to people wanting to lose weight in the year. Because they're marketing this product because you will lose weight if you eat with this fork. Not possible. Not true. You know why? Because if you want to eat a bunch of food, no amount of buzzing will stop you. No, I'll tell you. That's a great way to review. I'll tell you. I watched this video where you just began to eat. I'll tell you how it works. You get the fork out at your favorite restaurant, and then you feel like such a loser for having the fork. I did. I did that in New York for the last month when I was in New York. Where did you go? Where did you take the fork? I took it to Chinese restaurants. I took it to Italian places. Can you be more specific? First off, taking a fork to a Chinese restaurant is extremely lame on several levels. It is, but I don't know how to work chopsticks anyway. You don't? No, not very well. But actually, back to the Bluetooth toothbrush, which there's enough puns in there. I think you mean the Bluetooth brush. The Bluetooth brush, right. They put the tooth in the Bluetooth. I am a bad tooth-brusher. I am bad at brushing my teeth. What does that mean? Can you be more explicit? I do not brush my teeth for long enough. And I'm into all of these devices and the promise that they're going to make my life better. But they're all gimmicks. Don't you understand this is all a gimmick? They're all gimmicks. This is like a? They're totally gimmicks, but someone, first of all, has to test them to make sure they are. They don't work. And that's not going to be my job. I don't know if I'm going to get past some of my editors. Wait, what is it? What is your job? Well, someone has to test these things to me before they hit shelves. Well, not before they hit shelves, but to tell people they should buy them. No, someone doesn't. Right? I don't think so. I think it should be a test of IQ. I think we should let the dumb people buy the Bluetooth brush or the fork that vibrates. And you shouldn't have to waste your time and energy reviewing them. But there's all, I mean, beyond the toothbrush, right? There's this whole internet of things thing. I mean, the whole idea is that everything around us can be connected. And that's going to help our lives in some way. Well, I guess so. Yeah. I mean, that's the idea that they're selling at CES this. No, that's the idea that they've been selling for the whole past year, right? Right. As Bluetooth low energy has gotten better, all of this stuff can have a small chip in it and somehow communicate with something else. So actually, I would like to segue this into another thing that might be at the top of my. We get the segue noise in there also. Yeah, the segue, which is I went to go see SmartThings. Have you guys seen their stuff? And they're sort of trying. Is that a brand? They're doing this platform for the internet of things. Is this the thing with the picture of you with the toilet paper? No, that's just an iPad holder for the word. That's the adult iPod that I made. I like that. I'm pretty committed to that. But SmartThings was a Kickstarter project. They raised a ton of money. Now they've got a lot of venture. And they're trying to do the platform for home automation. I was telling Thomas Ricker about this before, because Thomas Ricker has been talking about home automation at this show for how long? Five years ago. He's like, I'm on this beat. I'm on this beat. But home automation is definitely a thing now. Right. And it's all about putting connectivity in all of these devices in our home. And it's off the strip. They rented out a house. They outfitted the whole house with their little sensors. Basically, they're working with all the companies, from Philips Hue to Nest, all of them, to get things to talk to each other, and even jaw bones. So you walk into the house. That's interesting. You walk into the house. You're wearing your jawbone up. It knows you're there. It turns on the lights. I assume we covered this, or did we just find this randomly? I haven't seen all of our coverage. No, I've seen this thing. So I would say my favorite thing at the show is this stuff. I'm into it. So how does it interface with these products? So there's an app that lets you bring in and bring in the other products in there. And so the interesting thing is you're communicating with your house. So it says, good morning. You can tap everything, and it will do everything you'd want in the morning. But I think what's interesting is the idea that it knows you're in the room, and it can turn on your Sonos. It can tell you the Sonos can talk actually to your coffee maker. So the interfaces are like they just showed an air conditioner. That's you buy a plug outlet thing. And it kills the plug. I mean, I think we're still far ways away from all this stuff like hitting mainstream. But I'm really into it. What I think is interesting is that this is sort of in a way, Matt Panzarino wrote a pretty interesting editorial on TechCrunch last night about contextual sort of phones as contextual devices that know where you are and what you're doing. And he was doing it because of the Yahoo acquisition of Aviate. And this is another contextual thing. Like you wake up, and it says, hey, good morning. And then you go into this room, and it turns on Sonos. I think the problem with contextual right now is that I think it's better for phones because the way we use phones is extremely specific and detailed. And where we go with them is extremely specific. I think in your home, the problem is like, how do you identify? Like how are you going to identify when I walk into my living room that I want the Sonos to turn on? So I have a totally different theory of phones. But you don't always want the Sonos to be on when you walk into your living room. So the context is really. But maybe it knows every morning you like to listen to NPR. But every morning you don't like to listen to NPR. A lot of people have a routine. No, I don't. I actually don't listen to NPR. No, but some people sometimes will listen to NPR, but sometimes they won't. And the question is like. But every morning I do watch Good Morning America. But it would be annoying if every time you walked into the room it did exactly the same thing. No, so here's my bigger theory. In that everything you're talking about, the stuff right now, you have to learn how to use it in a really specific way. Like you've got to program all that shit. I walk into my house. I want x things to happen. No one will ever do that. And so as I've been walking around seeing the wearables and seeing all this crap, all of this crap, I haven't seen one true wearable here that's great. I totally agree. And I've been thinking about why. And I keep coming back to glass, which is the ultimate in wearables. And glass has too many costs. I don't mean money. It's expensive and rare and doesn't do a lot. But this is expensive in a lot of different ways to me as a consumer. Like I have to have a data plan. I have to charge the battery. I have a Mophie case on it because it's useless here. Well, I bought it to come here. And that's expensive. You should have it always. But no, that's expensive. To think as a human being, I'm about to go to another city and I know that this thing needs battery and I should go buy a battery case is an insane thing to think. I have to worry about my data plan and how much I'm going to. There's so many costs associated with this. And so to say people use phones in specific ways, I think is, people use phones in all kinds of ways. And they're so useful all the time that I'm willing to pay that cost, that incredible set of costs. And it's not just me as a nerd. It's everybody. This is an explosively disruptive product. And it's because everybody is willing to pay the same cost. And I look at the Galaxy Gear or even the Fitbit. And it's like, my Fitbit died last night. I don't even plug it into the charger today because it's like, I don't want to worry about this. No, I mean, this is such a smart home. It's like, do I want to pay all these costs for so few benefits? So instead of me remembering to turn off my air conditioner when I leave the house, then it turns the air conditioner off for me. And I think maybe we will get to a point where they're so good and so smart and you're just like, man, I don't know how I live without. Either you lower the costs of the mental cost of having a thing or you skyrocket the benefits to make the cost worth it. But I think you have to identify problem areas. Nest did a really good job of saying, look, you spent a lot of money on air conditioning and heating. We have ways that we can help you save money on that stuff. The thermostat hasn't been touched for like 50 years, 100 years. Here's something that will actually have real effects on your life, monetary. I think that's the thing that sells to Nest. And safety, right? Yeah, but I think that's what the smoke detector's about. Yeah, but the smoke detector's a much harder sell. And I will say this. I just met with the Nest guys today. They have a fire truck. They let me run the siren. They have an actual fire truck. I mean, I was like a five-year-old kid. Because you're five years old. It was the most, we'll run the interview tomorrow. He was like, they let me do the siren. They let me sit in the fire truck and turn the engine and run the siren. You're five. I'm five. Is that even legal? I don't think that's five. I was in a parking lot. They're like, you're going to get arrested. I still think it's illegal. They maybe stopped doing it after a while. They didn't give me a hat. I don't even know how you could have a fire truck legally. They bought it on Craigslist. No, I understand that. Really? I can't just get an ambulance and drive around in it. Yes, you can, apparently. Have you met Craigslist? Anyway. Have I met Craigslist? Several times. His name is Craigslist. Yeah, Craig. No, it's Craigslist is his name. Craigslist. Oh, well, he painted it blue. Should I search for this in Las Vegas or in your hometown? Are we looking for an ambulance? Anyway, so. That's like an ambulance for sale in Las Vegas. No, and you know what, the thing with the smoke detector is. Mobile prostitution. That's what the ambulance is being used for. Mobile prostitution in Vegas. It's like, yeah, you just pull up. Somebody gets in. They get out 15 minutes later. And you're on to the next. He's running the siren the whole time. Then you start it up. Please invest. No, you know the thing with the smoke detector is. How about an ambulance stretcher? You don't get to play with it every day. The Nest is popular. It's expensive. But you can screw with it all the time. But it's also early. You can look at it on your phone. All you can look at. It's not a widespread adoption. I mean, it's. No, but I think that early adopter set, they want to play with toys. They love toys. And so I haven't bought the smoke detector. I think it's cool. I think it's interesting. But I can put one up in my house and constantly check that my home isn't on fire. And that's about it. I mean, and that's why the things like the fork and the toothbrush seem so gimmicky is that, listen. I can control. All you need to do to control your eating is control your eating. You don't need a fork to. By the way, you can definitely go to ambulancetrader.com. Nice. But everything is trying to solve a problem, right? No, but you have to. And yes, everything's trying to solve a problem. But the question you have to ask is, like, is the problem worth solving in this manner? I agree. Or is this just some crappy way of getting to spend $140? And with the fork, there was too many trade-offs, right? No, there's no situation where you need a fork to do anything for you while you're eating. Like, except shovel the food. There's nothing one situation where the food is here and your mouth is here and you need to do this. People get interested in ridiculous things all the time. That doesn't mean that there's anything behind the idea. But talking about the contextual thing, I mean, I actually, when I did this review, I wanted to actually provide some useful information to you. And I got super into tracking my food. And that's useful to people. Yeah, but that's you. You pick up your phone and press the app. But that's a lot of information I've got to do. Why doesn't the fork just know? But the fork can't tell you what you're eating. Why not? Because we don't have the technology to do that. And that's what I'm saying. Well, when they have the technology, when they have the technology. By the way, what happens when you eat a sandwich? What's the fork going to do then? Nothing. That's also mentioned in the piece, OK? OK. I'm just saying. But not mentioned by the people who make the fork ever. You know, like, you're having a Reuben. Before you eat a sandwich, stab the fork in the middle. No fork. You're having a burger, no fork. I went to Subway, no fork. I'm eating a piece of cake. Oh, that's fork. But imagine if that fork. Cupcake, no fork. Well, imagine if the fork. Cookie, no fork. You know what the worst stuff you eat with your hands? Popcorn, no fork. Yes, the worst things you eat with your hands. A bag of chips. Are you going in there with a fork? No. You're reaching in. Are you a dietitian? A registered dietitian? I am actually a professional dietitian. I spoke to some dietitians. Yeah, I go like this. I'm a dietitian. You figured it out. And they said the same thing. I could have quoted you in my piece. The worst stuff you eat with your hands? Yeah. Who said that? The dietitian. You did not read my first column. No, I didn't read the whole thing. I got bored, frankly. You know why? Because I don't want to read about forks. Better luck next time. She's writing about the fork. And then I was like, delete my entire internet history. Delete my browser application. I erased my hard drive. Then I went and bought every copy of that paper I could find and burned it in a bonfire. No. What did I say here? What are you saying? OK. Yeah. I like that B-roll. Was that Dieter? Who was that? Or was that you? What? I don't even know who that was. Sorry. I'm busy RLRTing everything you say. Grab the fork. Oh, OK. What are you RLRTing? I don't know. The worst things you eat with your hands. Can we roll my fork video in just next few minutes? Let's run the fork video. Yeah, let's get the fork video. OK, here we go. Here we go. How can we pull up Joanna having a fake baby in eight seconds and get the fork video? Wait, is this an ABC News report? No, it's from Wall Street Journal. This is my first video. Oh, I'm sorry. The video from Wall Street. Did they approve? Is this allowed? Can we show the Wall Street Journal video? Oh, yeah. We've got to probably get some. Hey, Wall Street Journal. I'm Rupert. I'm not hearing anything from the control room. John. Oh, the Wall Street Journal video player isn't very good. So we're having some issues with that. Is that it? Yes, we're all out of time. No, they just found it. It took them a minute. Anyway. They're like they're covering. They're like we're having some technical issues. I can see John. This dude doesn't know how to search. Am I right? So this is my favorite. I mean, I don't know. I haven't I really can I just say I'm not impressed with anything I've seen. Can you eat cereal with the fork? Did you see the Pebble Steel? Yeah, the Pebble Steel is nice, but like I'm not familiar. I was definitely scolded when I was younger for eating too fast. But over the last couple of days, I've actually slowed down a little. And that's because of this. This is the HapMap fork. It's a Bluetooth connected fork. Wow, it's so small. That actually vibrates. The fork is not. You eat too fast. The fork is the same new product. You wouldn't even notice that if you took it out of the restaurant. The only problem is, well, actually, there's a lot of problems. That fork isn't the most attractive utensil. When Wall watches, a little tear rolled down his cheek. It's chunkier than most forks, but that's because of the tech components inside. I really don't know what to say other than I have not really seen anything like that. I'd love to make a pregnancy test. So the watch. That's it. It looks like a pregnancy test. I like that you call that out immediately. I don't know what else to say here, but definitely it's a success. I think that, what is it, smart home? Yeah. I think that's actually a great example of. You guys should know over there. But I think what's interesting about that. We've done stuff with them. I think what's interesting about that is that they're trying to be the. Whatever we have. Success and success. Guys, it's not a race, OK? I think what's interesting about that is they're trying to be the intermediary. And the biggest problem with all of this stuff, whether it's the fork or the Fitbit or whatever, is that you'll have all this information. You can look at it there or look at it there, but you can't look at it as a connected thing. You can't go open an app and say, this is what my fork did. This is what my Fitbit did. Here's what's happening in my house. And that's actually the real problem that needs to be addressed, which is none of this it's weird how we could slip into a totally cogent, normal sounding point. That's the stuff that is. So that's a great pick. You know, I think it solves that solves a real problem. I mean, I covered wearables for two days. The pebble you're not interested in. I tried on all of it. You guys can watch that video too. Honestly, the pebble. So here's my thing on the pebble. But I don't want to wear any of this stuff. So I don't want to wear any of this stuff either. And the thing about the pebble is that it's nicer than the last pebble, like by leaps and bounds. But it's still not the kind of thing I thought about. Maybe I'd get one. Maybe I'd wear it. But I'm not like, man, I need to wear that watch. But also you wear a really nice watch. I mean, I wear. But it's still your watch. And you both wear nice watches. And OK, so you have like a fabric band. I mean, my thing with that one. It's actually called a NATO strap. Oh, sorry. Why is it called the NATO strap? I think it has something to do with NATO. I'm not really sure. I have no idea. But this is referred to as a NATO strap. But I mean, to me, the pebble is definitely a big improvement. People can get by with wearing it to work. And men, men can get by to wearing with work. Well, actually, Chris was complaining. And Chris Ziegler was complaining about it. Because he thought it wasn't big enough. And my thinking was like, well, this is so it can be. I mean, you're wearing a pebble right now. I am, to point out. That looks ridiculously big. It looks ridiculous on me. Have you tried the new one on? Yes. So you must like that better, right? I actually do like wearing men's watches. But I also just feel that it feels a little chintzy. That, no, no, no. The pebble feels like a knockoff. The new one? Yeah, I never wanted that one. The new one kind of feels like a Casio. Yeah, it does. Not that Casio makes a bad calculator watch. But it doesn't feel like a heavy watch. It looks nice. It doesn't feel as good. I mean, if you pick up a real watch, like a Rolex, they're heavy. We talked about this. Do we talk about this last time? I don't know. It's French. Is your watch heavy? No. I used to wear a Michael Kors men's watch. This morning, we had the pebble on here this morning. I would call this heavy-ish. And I was saying that real watches are very heavy. They feel substantial. That one is not heavy. I said the same thing. But you know what? Technology wants to be light. Right. Technology wants to be light. And also, they can't charge $600 for that watch. What kind of phone are you using now? An iPhone? An iPhone. Does this feel like sweet freedom to you? Oh, you guys both have Mophies. What's your battery life on right now? Do you have the BlackBerry that I know you have with you? I don't. I have a special keyboard. I got to tell you, I'm using the Sony Z1. I also like the Typo keyboard. The one that clicks in the iPhone? You have it? Oh, I have it. Wait, you have what? There's a basic BlackBerry. It's called BlackBerry now. You know I still correct myself every time I call the company BlackBerry? Wait, you have the keyboard that BlackBerry's suing over? The Ryan Seacrest keyboard? Where is it? The Ryan Seacrest? You don't have it on you? I do have it in my bag. Guys, bring that bag over here. Don't touch my bag. Bring that bag. Get her bag. No, that's my bag. My baby. That's my bag. Our baby. You got a baby in the bag. Do not touch my bag. Come on, bring it over here. Jordan, you'll have to shoot the video at my wedding if you bring that over here. I'm not joking. It's just coming over here. I will pay you and I will get you a hotel room. Look at, oh my god, this bag is heavy. This is my bag. Oh my goodness. Is that why we couldn't touch it? Are you really mad about us touching the bag? No. You know what, Joanna, I don't know. You've changed. You don't want people touching your bag anymore. I don't want people touching my bag. All right, here we go. This is, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh my god. Wait, why don't we have one of these? We probably, I mean, I think we just have to ask. Why aren't we testing? Is this an exclusive Wall Street Journal? No, but I want to review it in the next couple of weeks. This is like, it doesn't even have a thing. I like it. Let me see it. It feels a little cheap, but I can type fast as hell. Really? Well, you're in a Blackberry. I'm a Blackberry person. I'm actually, this is. I mean, that is 100% a Blackberry keyboard. Yeah. Without question. Can I see it or what? I haven't used it today. Can you unlock your phone so I can check out the keyboard? Just open up a note. I just want to type in it. If you get nasty messages from somebody, I won't even open that. Well, it's a little slow because the battery is probably. Oh, really? Interesting problem. It's a little slow because the battery is low? I don't know. I have to say, I'm not a native Blackberry. I like keyboards. I've always loved keyboards. But oh, boy, look at this. That's ridiculous. I mean, I would have said this was probably one of my favorites of the show. This is awful. This is the worst thing. It came out so long ago. No, it didn't. It just came out. But they sued them beforehand. They sued them last week. That was last week. That was last week. I mean, can I just say, it feels terrible to use. You just keep using it. You'll love it. Well, I'm not saying. I've had seven typos in the five seconds. Well, it's called the typo. You just don't know how to use it. I mean, for God's sake, it's called the typo. They should be sued. I'm glad they're being sued. I mean, I don't even understand. I'm glad they're being sued. No, I mean, this is like a crazy rip off. What's this? Oh, my god. Look, they got that Seacrest money. They can defend themselves. How is it possible? Why does Seacrest just have to divert royalties from one program to defend a framework? I'm willing to bet you dollars to donuts in a race. I would go faster. No. I would win. You would lose. I would win. 100%. 100% every time to a good virtual keyboard typist. Or swipe. Yeah, let's compete right now. I'm not. Let's do it. No, I don't want to. I'm ready to go. What is that? You're using a Sony? Yeah, and I love it. Really? It's very good. Is that the Google Play version? What's that? You want to do splits? You want to do splits? Is that a Google Play version? No, this is Sony's. This is the international unlocked version. This is awful. Let's go. Right now. Can you guys confirm that? Give me a sentence. Give me any sentence right now, and I'll type it. OK, you ready? Here we go. Wait, hold on. I don't have the sentence. Well, I don't have it either. We're just going to go right now. Wait, someone should tell me what to do. I'm going to give you a sentence from our next topic, and that's going to be our segment. OK, here we go. Here we go. OK, this is from John Legere. Wait, is that it? I don't know how to spell his last name. No, no, that's not the sentence. I've never known how to spell his last name. It doesn't matter. Here's the sentence. I don't know how to read his last name, actually. I'm going to send a cease and desist letter to AT&T telling them to stop their ads saying they are the fastest. OK, I screwed up bad here, so I'm already losing. Tell them what? Telling them to stop their ads saying they are the fastest. Whatever Joanna is doing with her thumbs is very disturbing. I'm just going to say it right now. I mean, it's like she's not really pushing things. I did it. I have two typos. I don't know how to spell his last name. I mean, I will say that the typos are in some of the most important words. I got, I have a mix. That's probably because I don't know how to spell them to begin with. I should have just tried typing. Can we do another sentence? I mean, I definitely know the word desist does not have. I thought swipe would be faster, but I don't think it is. Here's what I know. The word desist does not have an O in it, and the word letter does not have a Y in it. I got a deer in my mind. All right, let's try another sentence. I failed completely. OK, I'm just giving you an extents of the quote. OK, yeah, go ahead. Hold on, OK. Are we going to start typing as he's saying it? No, I'm just going to say it. I'm going to say it, and then I'll drop. And then I'm going to drop my hands, and you're going to start typing. No, can you, we should just do it when we hear it, because it's much harder to think of what you said. Sure. You know how many billboards they are going to have to take down. Not a contraction, by the way. I mean, again, this is super fucking disturbing. It's like, I don't even know. It's just vibrating in her hands. It's just shaking, and then like, words are produced. Done. Done. I beat you on that one. No, I was ahead of you. I said done, and I beat you. Well, you have a contraction. Oh, no contraction. I definitely said no contraction. They will. They will have to take down. No, you have a typo. I have no typos. Havver. OK, so I have a contraction, but no typos. All right, let's keep going. This is the worst piece of it. Seriously, the worst phrase of all. Let's go. What do you got next? Let's do it. OK, you ready? Yep. I'm seriously just giving you a lot. I am impressed by this one. I'm just going to keep giving you John Legere quotes, because they're awesome. Here we go. Ready? Sprint is a pile of spectrum waiting to be turned into a capability. What? This is our next topic. I mean, I don't even know what this is. It's like, ah. And then Josh just looks like, I don't even know what this is. It's a robot surgery. Done. I spelled into wrong. I got pule of spectrum. I screwed up on capability. OK, we're done with this. We should talk about. We are done with me winning, right? You're sober, right? I just want to be clear. Yeah. Well, that's my biggest thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the thing. One of us looks like a dork. One of us doesn't. You. No. You. Tony. With the Ryan Seacrest case. Can I push your arm? I'm sure that is a nice one. Can we do one more and then really launch into this topic? Wait, we're doing another sentence? We can do one more. Right. Let me clear my sentences out. OK, go ahead. Wait, I want to clear my sentences out. Of me winning. OK, you ready? It's actually two. Hold on. I'm not done yet. I need to. It's two sentences, but it's going to lead us right into this topic. John Legere. Team LEC. Are we spelling his name? L-E-G-E-R-E. Why are we doing this right now? So I have to say John Legere? No, no, you don't have to do it. OK, here's the quote. My phone already just knows it. Here's the quote. And then we're going to segue. Is here's the quote part of it? No. My god. Here we go. Wait, are we just going to start when you start talking? OK, go ahead. Go. AT&T is the total source of amusement for me. They are the ones that take my bullshit. I mean, can you guys hear this? It's like a thousand tiny amps. I blew this. It's weird. Why do you want your hands to sound like that? Oh, because I just typed it all perfectly. Yeah, that's true. I completely blew this. Amusement just completely killed me. I typoed it. God, a rabbit hole. All right, well, so at least in this moment. I didn't get the ampersand in AT&T. Blackberry Stern has prevailed. How long have you used a Blackberry for? Forever. Wow. I mean, I've got to say, I'm blown away. You are really fast on this. It's also terrifying. I don't even understand what just happened. Your thumbs must be very strong. They are very strong. Yeah, I mean, these guys, this guy, if somebody makes a gif of that, I'll kill you. I got to say, are they making one of these for Android phones? A lot of, I mean, OK. Yes, actually, I think they said they focused on this now. So can we talk about these folks? Yeah, no, I want to talk about this. So John Legere, here's what I believe. By the way, today I've chosen to pronounce it. So it doesn't do, do you have to do a correction? No, it doesn't do, that's a part of the review. That's crazy. Why wouldn't it do correction? Because that would be insane. I know. Because then you could just. Wait, so Apple turned off correction? Yeah. When they have a keyboard attached? With Bluetooth, probably. But they don't do that on Maverick, so what? I don't know. Yeah, OK. Can we talk about these quotes? Yeah, go ahead. OK, so John Legere today had a press conference. He announced, he teased something very rough. This is like hour four of this Vergecast, by the way. I mean, we've been typing for most of it. OK, go ahead. Is this the worst one you've had this whole series? No, that was yesterday. 32 minutes? God, it feels like it's been a lot longer. That's because I'm here. It does. OK, so John Legere, T-Mobile press conference today. Go on. Basically came out, trashed every carrier in the business, and then announced that he'll pay your early termination fee if you switch to T-Mobile. Right, that's awesome. It's sort of awesome. They're not going to. I don't know how they still have money. Well, I don't know how they still have money. Well, they're doing well, right? People are paying the money for service. Here's what I don't understand about John Legere. And I'm going to say this very directly. How to spell his name. No, I understand how to spell his name. I don't quite understand how to pronounce his name. Straight up, he will not do an interview with any respectable press outlet that I can think of. He's in this character all the time. That he's always raging. He's always fucking with people. He's going to the AT&T party. He's like, I just want to see Macklemore. He told Dan Sefer that he has no life. He has no life. And I take personal. I'm a fan. He's right, Dan. And I get it. He's like out there. He's throwing bombs left and right. He's a vulnerable child. No, he's throwing bombs left and right, which is great. He's channeling. T-Mobile's marketing strategy right now is I am the personification of rage at AT&T. AT&T is, he's saying it himself. They're taking the bait. They're idiots. They're responding to T-Mobile because T-Mobile's taking their customers. But as far as I can tell, he's only playing this character. I have no idea what he's actually like. That's what he's like, I think. As a business. No, he used to work for AT&T. He's reinvented himself. Well, he saw what was going on. He grew his hair out and got a leather jacket. And now he's like this other person. Has he had work done? Any person who's watching this show at this time who has persevered to continue watching this show knows that I am fully in support of every policy that he has laid out for T-Mobile. They're going to kill the contracts. They're going to do full priced phones. They're going to end these. All of that is great. But what I don't understand is why playing this role for him is more important than explaining why he's doing some of these things and explaining why the industry needs to change in this way. Well, does he have to explain why contracts are bad and why AT&T is a monopoly? Because you know, this is like, this is like, Nelay yells at an invisible Obama. But if he was here, it would be, how are you going to pay for this? How are you going to actually improve your network? How are you going to make it so that I can have T-Mobile? I hear you're a real person. And those questions, as far as I can tell, cannot be answered. So he won't put himself in any situation where he can answer them. How are you going to pay for the ETF thing? No, how are you going to make the service better? OK, if you're going to do that, if you're going to save your investment dollars, how are you going to survive? And you know what he refused to answer today? Is Sprint going to buy you? I thought he didn't say no. He just refused it. No, he didn't say no. He didn't say no. He didn't say no. Right, he didn't say no. He just danced around it. No, no, no, he didn't dance around it. He didn't. What he actually said was basically Sprint is going to buy us, but the spirit of Uncarrier will live on if Sprint. I think what he basically said on stage today, and I'm not reading into it that much, was yes, Sprint is going to buy us, but T-Mobile is going to be the brand. What we're doing in any scenario will prevail. Listen, we could play the clip probably. I'm sure we have the clip. I can tell you. Wait, here it is. I was thinking about it. I can tell you the T-Mobile brand attitude and identity is here to stay. That's right. What he's saying is Sprint, SoftBank, it's not even Sprint anymore. SoftBank will buy us, and they will rebrand all of it as T-Mobile. That's what they're going to do, because T-Mobile is a fresher, more interesting, and exciting brand. And do you know why? Because of the last eight months of John Legere. Basically, and I wouldn't, if I had to guess, and I don't know for sure, my assumption would be that Legere came in, and the board was like, hey, listen, we're in early talks to do something with Sprint, and we need to be in a place where we can be the dominant. I want to see John Legere appear in a Sprint commercial like Dan Hesse. No, he'll do it. It'll all just be hot cakes. Here's what I think is, and look, I'm saying it's successful. It is working. We are paying so much more attention to T-Mobile because of him. But also, the stuff is good. He is never doing. The plans are good. The plans are good. The plans are good. The ideas are good. The idea is about how we hire folks. I got a T-Mobile SIM card in my bag right now. I have a T-Mobile unlimited data SIM card in my bag right now. Yeah, but you won't have service. Well, let me ask you a question. I'll just give it to you. Will you switch to that network? Let me ask you a question. How does an underdog like T-Mobile pay for new towers? You know what? That's a great question. I'm going to tell you. Ask it to the CEO of T-Mobile. I can tell you how. I don't have to ask the CEO. I don't have to ask the CEO. They just bought a whole bunch of spectrum from Verizon. Now, I get that. Here's how T-Mobile pays for infrastructure and new towers. Customers. They need more customers. They need more money from customers so they can take that money and go buy stuff. But are they breaking even on every customer that they have? OK, they're not. They wouldn't offer their offerings if they didn't think they were going to make money. No company does that. What is it? Very few companies take a loss. Microsoft has worked their asses off. Hold on. Two days ago, T-Mobile announced a plan to buy unused Verizon spectrum for $3 billion. $3 billion, they're already doing it. They're out there. There you go. They've done it. Buy on the boost of that 8% or whatever increase in subscribers. But what I'm saying is explaining this stuff, you can get out there and you can throw it. But regular customers don't give a shit about how they pay for spectrum. Yeah, but you know who is supposed to understand how they're doing this stuff and explain it to regular people? Like us. And what I'm saying is this company is right now, they're out there. They're throwing bombs. They're saying all of the right things. And then all of the follow up questions, they are ignoring. I don't know. I see this pretty straightforward to me. It's like they're in fourth place. Oh, they did get them. They brought fries for us. Oh, I hope that's not all the fries. Because I'm planning on eating dinner at some point tonight. But you can bring those over if you want. Oh my god. It's snack time. Would those not be enough fries for your dinner? Well, no, but I like to eat the fries with the, would you like some? You like to put them on your burger? Oh, I was trying to. Really? That's like a weird gross. No, no. I just like to have them next to my burger. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyhow, all I'm saying is, listen. Listen to me. They have a perfectly sound plan, as far as I can see. Get the brand noticed. I agree. Get people to start thinking about leaving the dominant brands, Verizon and AT&T. Bring on some of those customers. I don't think they're taking that big of a hit. I think if you pay $350 for the ETF, you get a customer. They're going to sell the phone. I mean, that's. They're going to sell the phone, and you get a customer who starts paying you. And guess what? If you just left AT&T, very few people are going to be like, you know what? Now I hate T-Mobile. I'm going to leave T-Mobile. The only thing that would make that happen is if their service was absolutely crap. That's my point. Wait, wait. In New York, you're going to have that. But you're going to leave T-Mobile. It's T-Mobile. They're not going to make you sign a contract. Right. You can leave it any time. You can go right back to AT&T. You misunderstand. Well, you're paying off the phone. You have to pay off the phone for the next couple of years. We sell the phone. I mean, if you switch from AT&T to T-Mobile, because they're like, look at all the money I'm saving, and then you can't make phone calls, you're going to have to write. No, listen. People are lazy. They don't want to switch carriers every two weeks. We're nerds. We're like, I don't give a shit. I'll switch carriers whenever I want. I have never switched carriers. Regular people. That's right. I have AT&T. Regular people like Joanna. Straight up. I've had AT&T for a decade. Wall Street Journal columnists. I've been with Verizon for years. The 85%, the middle. The normals. They don't want to switch. Can we get the map up on the screen? They don't want to switch. They read The Urge. They read Ed Badger. They don't want to switch every two weeks. And they won't switch every two weeks. They'll only do it in dire circumstances, or if they're being given money. Hence, John Legere is a genius. I agree with you. The marketing's definitely working, and they've got better devices. The service for me. Wait, so just answer my question. If he's a genius, and he's a marketing phenomenon, why won't he sit down with any real press outlet for real entertainment? Why shouldn't he? Why doesn't Tim Cook sit down with any press outlets? He goes to Bloomberg one time in a Bloomberg. Are you seriously comparing those two? No, I'm just saying CEOs don't have to do anything they don't want to do. He's not required. There's no gun to his head. He can talk to whoever he wants to talk to. He loves talking to Emily Chang on Bloomberg West. He'll talk to her until he's blue in the face. But Apple's the dominant, far and away market leader in like eight countries. I'm not comparing T-Mobile to Apple. T-Mobile is the fourth place carrier in the worst network. It's his choice. What I'm saying is when you're the CEO of a company, you don't have to do anything really you don't want to do. I hear you, but here's what I know. That's Jim Banchoff. I guess it's Jim. Yeah, Banchoff won't talk to anyone. He won't talk to the press. I'm like, Jim, how you doing? He's like, you won't talk to me. Get out of my face. No, no, I've been trying to talk to you forever. Exactly. What? There you go. They tried to talk to him tonight. Anyhow. Yeah. What I'm saying is, I just think that's his prerogative. I think he's making a conscious choice to own his image. I think that's the thing. That his image is obviously so important to their marketing. So he's owning it. Was the announcement today just to bash his name? No, it was the pay your ETFs. Which is funny, because AT&T just basically announced the same thing. OK, that was AT&T a couple of days ago. The difference is they will actually pay your ETF. AT&T will do a handful of like smoke and mirrors money. Right, like money off this phone or whatever. Here's all I know. This is how I feel deep in my heart. I want to hear your feelings. I refuse to trust a wireless carrier. I'm not going to do it. It's never going to happen. I don't think they're on night and shining armor. I just think they should be so much better. No, but that's how he's acting. And so when he's acting that way, my instinct. You hear this? He's fired up. Just listen. No, I'm saying that's how he's acting. He's acting like the savior of the wireless industry. But you know who owns T-Mobile? Deutsche Telekom. You know what Deutsche Telekom is? The AT&T of Europe. So the idea that somehow this is all free, that we're going to get, there's a catch here. And the reason that he won't talk to any real journalists in a real interview is because someone's going to find out the cash. Well, it sounds to me like Deutsche Telekom wants to disown the US version of their service and sell it off to SoftBank. So I wouldn't be too sure that he's carrying the message of Deutsche Telekom. Look, here's the thing. His shtick is the things that I say. And I don't believe it from any wireless carrier that they're going to say all the things that I say. Right. Here's the way I see it. Look, I think our job as journalists is to relentlessly advocate for the consumer. That's what we do. The people who watch this program are stupid. Wow. Probably as drunk as we are. I mean, that is really. If you've held on to this for this long. Vergecast viewers, I just want to say, I don't think you're stupid. I don't know what you guys talk about. You're stupid for watching us for 40 hours. He's finished this makers, and that could have something to do with it. You understand what I'm saying. You're my people. If I had a smart Bluetooth earpiece, I'm not really sure. You are so stupidly nerdy that you've held on to this for this long. That's what I meant. You meant stupid for watching the Vergecast. Yes. Watching such bad programming. That's what I meant. I mean, I wouldn't do it. The people watching this, they understand that everything that you do in this industry involves a trade-off, right? And there's a compromise somewhere. That's true. Someone's making money. When we are pushing the idealist version of the industry constantly, and then I hear the industry say what I want, all I think to myself is, how are you cheating me? And that's kind of all I want to ask. Here's what I think about. What is the catch to this? Where's the back end of this plan that you're not telling me about? Because you know what? You did used to work for AT&T. And that's where you learned how to run a business. The reason that Deutsche Telekom asked you to be the CEO of T-Mobile is not because you showed up and you're like, fuck everything. I'm going to run this company in the best way. You have experience running AT&T. I mean, I can tell you're really upset about John Legere and his plans. Listen. I'm really upset about being lied to. Well, we don't know that we're being lied to. It feels like there's a lie. At the end of this tunnel is a lie. All I want to ask. I think the lie is that they have service that's pretty bad in a lot of areas. And the catch here is that the truth is that it's hard for them to sell just being like, hey, we're competing one to one with AT&T because people are like, yeah, my service is really bad with T-Mobile. John Legere says he'll challenge AT&T's fastest network claims with a cease and desist letter. He said he went up. Can you imagine a CEO of any other company standing on stage just being. But FAS is different than having service everywhere. But they're bragging about the quality of their network. Yeah, in some place, right? I think he's just being blustery. I mean, he's just doing what CEOs do. I mean, people get on stage and they talk shit on their competitors. That's just like the name. I mean, hey, look at David Pogue. Got on stage, talked shit on his competitors. That's what people do. You look at Tim Cook. He gets on stage. He makes fun of Windows. He makes fun of Android. But he's saying they have the best network. And here's where our thing is better. At no point are they saying we have the best pricing scheme in an adequate network. They're saying we have the best prices and the best network. Well, I think you should do a deep investigative report and figure out whether his claims are true or not. Now, here's the thing. I'm not a T-Mobile customer. I'm not planning on switching to T-Mobile. Here's what I like. John Legere seems more interesting to watch on stage and says things that sound more in line with my beliefs as a customer than any of the other CEOs that I've listened to. So I'm telling you, I will. Maybe full of shit. I will pay. I have the SIM card in my bag. But I actually think it's somewhat illegal for him to just make stuff up. I mean, he can't just say we have the fastest network. I mean, he can. But at some point, rubber has to hit road, and they have to prove it if he's going to say that continuously. But I'm not saying everything he says is true. I just don't think he's out there lying. OK, well, here it goes. Are you paying for T-Mobile right now? No. I am. But if you went to T-Mobile, what's the worst that's going to happen to you? Wait a minute. The worst he's going to get, he's not going to be happy with this service. Look, I like to have, like, if I'm going to go. It's just you don't have a contract. But here's the thing. He's giving you it out. If I'm going to be critical of all these carriers, I have to pay for them. So AT&T has my iPhone. Yeah, I do. Verizon has my iPad. T-Mobile has my Android phone, whichever one he's using. Which one are you the happiest with? What about Metro PCS? Yeah, what are you doing with Boost? No, there's just the four. What about Sprint? You know, the Sprint. I didn't hear Sprint product in there. Yeah, we have Sprint products in my family. I know a guy who uses, you know, Cellular One, but that's not in business. I got the Cellular One in my family, too. Do you really? Chicago, they're all over the place. So in Vegas, actually, AT&T has been the best. Verizon is just flat. Verizon is a lot of issues. Verizon has been very bad. There are AT&T, like, makeshift towers. Yeah, I'm fairly certain. Yeah, you think Verizon can't roll in makeshift towers? Verizon has been. Honestly, I've been thinking lately of switching to AT&T, because I've had such great experiences with AT&T phones. Let me tell you something. AT&T has been pretty good lately. Can I just ask my question? Not to T-Mobile. Of course. Over there in my bag. What is it? My T-Mobile SIM card. It's there. I'm paying for it. You've been threatening us for a while. I'll give it to you. Will you switch? I don't want it. Why don't you want it? T-Mobile service is really bad in my neighborhood. I'm fine. I typo keyboard. Even for free, I can't give it to you. I'm getting mocked here. Can I give it to you? No, I can't even put it in my phone. I'm not like, guys, go out and get T-Mobile. Change.org position to stop my bullying. I will sign that petition. Please tweet that link at me. You are very angry, and I'm not exactly sure why. I want to talk about 4K TVs. I'd rather be angry about, why not be angry about the people? They're telling me in my ear that we should move on. I just want to be angry about the people who actually. You're not plugged into anything? No, I'm not. I don't understand why. I'm not. I'm not going to get into it. Do you miss us? If you want to spend time. Let me ask you a question. When you left, were you like, fuck yeah? And you were like, out the door. Let me tell you something. If you want to really get angry, you got a perfect target. I still see you all the time. You got a perfect target. AT&T sponsored database. It's like, hey, how are you doing? I'm like, be on the Virgcast. And she's like, oh, that'd be a good idea. And then she shows up, and she's like, why? Are we almost done? How much time? How much time is left? We need to talk about 4K TVs. We got to be here now, right? Are you joking? 48 minutes? That's not that long. I've been yelling at you. How is it possible? That cannot possibly have been 16 minutes ago. I've been yelling at you on a drama show for at least five hours. There's no way this is only 48 minutes. It feels like the longest Virgcast of my life. Probably because you're bullying everybody. Probably because I'm here. OK, anyhow, if we can get out from under the boot heel of Nilay Patel for one second, let's talk about 4K. He's very mad at you. Can I just talk about 4K for a second? Nilay's been proven wrong time and time again. About what? On 4K. But I don't want to rub his nose in the mess that is the 4K industry. But I will say that Kaz Harai, the CEO of Sony, said it's five to seven years to mainstream adoption. Really? Yeah. That doesn't make me happy. Today I had a meeting with LG, and they said, how much would you pay for our 107-inch this? And I was like, $1,000. And they laughed. It was a team from South Korea. How much was it? They wouldn't say. They just were kind of trying to gauge market adoption. They were trying to say, like. Well, you're the wrong person. Till we go. Well, tell me. You should have been like, I live in New York, so. I live in New York. I can't fit in the 107-inch TV in my apartment. Even if I had an endless amount of money, and I was living where I'm living, there's no amount of money that would pay for a TV. I can't get that through the door. Right. You might be able to get it in the door of your, in Brooklyn. It's possible. You know, just living the Brooklyn lifestyle, space, backyard. He said they asked how much you'd pay for it. Birds waking me up every morning. $1,000. I'm in the market for a new TV. Can I make a suggestion? Yes. Don't buy a 105-inch 4K television. It's awesome. Here's an idea. It turns, and it curves. Go get the Vizio $1,000 4K TV. When is that coming out? I read the post, but when is that coming out? When is it coming out, Eli? The Vizio? End of the year. End of the year? Yeah. I can't wait that long. You don't need a new TV that badly. How old is your TV? I bought it when I first started in Gadget five years ago. Have you heard about this new Apple TV that's coming out? I did. Should I wait for that? I would wait. I think it's probably going to happen this year. Do we really? We believe it's in the screen. Well, it's the last thing Gene Munster said about it. It's coming now. Are you tweeting at people right now? You're getting into an argument with people on Twitter about your tirade. I have a lot of people here yelling at me for using a hardware keyboard. They said they were unfollowing me. No, that's not true. That's that Wall Street Journal audience. No. That's what that's like. No, the Wall Street Journal audience would be like, why aren't you using a full-size laptop keyboard to type your messages? No, they'd be like, what's a laptop? Yeah, because they're normal. Why aren't you using a typewriter? Perfect. You know, normals hate. Normals. I know, normals. How would they be like, what is that miniature typewriter you have on that pocket television you're using? The normals prefer to use keyboards. Why is that so funny? I don't know. It's the booze. Yeah, I think probably. Yeah. I don't like it. Normal. I love it. Hey, listen. Now, listen. What did you make? What do you make of Yahoo! Tech? Let's get mad at her for a second. No, we can't. I don't do that to her. I want to hear what you want. No, she just launched a new thing. Oh my god. Look at this. No comment. We just launched a new thing, or she just launched a new thing. They didn't put you on the board. No, they should have had a big picture of me. It should have been like Wall Street Journal, Fidgetle. Fidgetle. Or whatever hilarious punny name. I could be a normal. WSJF. Wall Street Journal. Wall Street Journal. I like the urge. Can we end this? Everything is funny. That's bad for me. I want to talk about the urge. We've only got 49 minutes. I like how John just knew I was looking at him. Wait, no. I want to ask you guys some questions now. OK, go ahead. And it's time for me to ask you a question. Yeah, please do. This is one. OK. Give me that ABC news situation. It's going to be what it's like. This is what she learned from Diane Sawyer, right? That's right. What is your top pick of the show? Really? That's where you want to go? Look, he's answering. You don't have to answer. So I think this show. A different question for you. I'll say this. I think this is an extremely boring CS. I agree. I think this is maybe the most boring CS that I've ever been to. I love it here. No, I mean, there's interesting stuff in the show. And we actually have some really interesting reports that are coming over the next couple of days. That's why I love it here. You love it for reports? No, we have no. Every single person in the industry is over there. Yeah, that's right. Our writers are doing some very interesting stories right now that you guys will see over the next few days. But in terms of announcements, this has been completely underwhelming on every level. I think that Sony's game, the PlayStation Now announcement, is really interesting. I mean, to me, I'm not a person who needs to stream a game on a portable, because I live in a house, and I just play games on my television. And you never leave it. And I never leave it, if at all possible. Speaking of that, what I thought was really interesting is today we got to play around with a telepresence device. Yep. So you never have to leave your house. And I took it out. You'll see more about this tomorrow, hopefully. But I think that's a really interesting concept. We're 10 to 20 years away from it being realized fully. But I think there is a, I'm starting to see this concept of a thing that can be your physical presence. That's crazy. That can be your physical presence in the world without you having to be there. This is like your dream. No, it's actually like, if you put the robotic stuff, like, actually, when you start to think about what was the experience for you when you were? Well, the experience was that I was talking to people out and about. Through what? Were you wearing something? We were doing a thing. No, no, no. I was on a camera, and there was a telepresence bot. You saw through the camera. And I don't want to get into the topic, but I will say that I was having conversations with people where they saw my face. And I was part of this contraption where they were talking to ahead. But did you feel like you were there? There were moments. But what's interesting is that you see how much it melts away. You're thinking about the situation once you're engaged in a conversation and somebody's actually looking face to face. And they feel like they're interacting. Right. It's not like Skype when you're looking at. So I think that's actually an industry that is, I know it's kind of left field based on all the home automation and the wearables, the werewolves, and all that stuff. But this is going to work. But that's interesting to me. And I think that for the second year in a row, I think the Oculus Rift stands out. Oh my god. I tried the new one today. They have a new one. Yeah. Is that the one that's at the Intel booth? The Crystal Cove? I don't think so. Crystal Cove. They have better sensing. Better head tracking. They're running it on Unreal Engine 4 on a faster computer. You tried it today, right? Yeah, I played the thing. We're going to do a video. It's great. But I tried it for just a minute. And I was so embarrassed while I was trying it, because inside the Oculus Rift, it's so awesome. Right. But I was sitting in that chair with a big audience of people who are all lining up to try it. And I knew that all they were looking at was. Yeah, no, no, no. It's crazy. And every person was doing that. You had to go. But people were doing this. Yeah, it's insane. I'll say this. I think that that company. I was playing a game. There's no way to describe it. I was playing a game where I was looking at stuff on a screen like this. And I went like this. And it did that, what you did right now. And it was just the most insane. There's no way to describe that feeling. Like you're wearing goggles, and you can kind of see underneath them. And at one point, I caught a flash of my own hands. And my own hands were disorienting to me. Yeah. And there's no way to explain the feeling of your own head. Because your head was detached from your head. Because my whole brain was somewhere else. And to explain the fact of like, what am I seeing? And it's your body. Yeah. That's the way I felt the first time that we played with it last year at CES. And Addy did an interview with Palmer and Brendan and all the Oculus dudes. And they talk about where they're headed with it. I think they're getting very close to a commercial product. And I think that once they lick, they're licking all of these problems. It's like being able to move your head in certain positions where it's tracking your motion out externally as well as internally. Latency, resolution. They're starting to really lock those in. Especially now they have $75 million. That's really helpful. And John Carmack to make things look good. And John Carmack is like, hey, here's the thing. You know what's funny about that? I don't remember who I was talking about. What is funny about that? They have a killer app problem. Right? That's what my question is. Last year, we all tried this thing on. We named it the best of show. Right? And then a year went by. That's like saying 4K has a killer app problem. No, I actually really disagree. I think it's very similar. I don't. That was like HD. No, I don't know why I would want to play chess. Well, actually HD and 4K have a delivery problem. Yeah, I mean like I. It's like a video game console. You need to have a thing that makes people want to have it for no rational reason. But I can tell you that we're both right. I'm just going to say it. Everyone's right. But the thing with. We all shall hold hands. Go on. I want somebody to sing over there. I know. That means we can lock. Paul Miller. But it's only over here. Can we make it virtual? It goes to Paul Miller. OK. OK. Make your point. Because I really like that. So those are your answers. Those are your answers. I know. No, no, no. I am not finished. I need to ask Neil I an important question now. Well, I just want to say. I'm running the show now. My point about the. I just want to finish. Someone sober should run the show. I'm running the show. No. The thing with the Oculus is we saw it last year. And we were like, this is amazing. It's going to be great, it's a year later. It's a little bit more amazing. I still don't know why I should buy one. What they have with Carmack is the guy who's going to show up and be like, I'm going to make killer apps for your products. And the experiences that you will have in them will be great, because I know how to do that. What 4K doesn't have is, Breaking Bad in 4K is like, whatever. At some point, I'm just going to want it. Because it's the next great thing. I think that. This goes back to what I was saying about cost. So buying a new TV is a cost I will incur every so often. So the next one I buy in five years will be 4K, and then things will look better. And I understand all the costs of that. With the Oculus, it's like, I'm wearing a thing. And I have to have a camera in front of me now. I think the Oculus is a little bit like the Wii, in that when we first heard about the Wii, you were kind of like, I'm not going to stand in my living room and pretend to hit a tennis racket. And I think that once you tried it, and saw what it could do, and that there were things like the tennis game that were really fun to play, or the bowling game that were easy and fun to play, once you had the experience. Connect, too. Yeah, the Connect, exactly. And I think that a lot of people have been like, I don't want to do. I'm not going to be dancing in my living room. And they try it, and they're like, whoa, this is really fun. I think it's an experiential thing. And I think that there will be a killer app. There has to be some, or at least a collection of apps that make people want. But Wii Sports, that was so low cost. Yeah. I should probably just write this down. I should probably publish this story. Write this down right now. No, I've been thinking about this since CS. This CS is the desperate search for the next disruptive thing. Yes, it is. It absolutely is. And that's why there's nothing here. And we want it to be wearable. Because we're fine. And we want it to be. But an Oculus is a wearable. You wear it on your head. And the reason that we're all excited about it is because the payoff for the cost is really great. It's extraordinary, but it's not great enough that I'm going to purchase one. And that's the tipping point, what is happening. I don't know. I just noticed that this shot existed. I look sober. Here's the thing that I want to say. What am I doing? I think you're right that the cost has to be justified in a big way. But I will say that the technology is exciting enough and is getting close enough to really good that I think that is, if they don't blow it somehow, if they don't make some huge misstep, whether it's marketing or they ship a product that isn't quite right or they don't have some really good software to go with it, it doesn't have to necessarily be like, oh my God, the greatest thing ever, but really good entertaining stuff. I think they're going to get there. But I just have to say, I wrote an editorial on the topic you were just talking about. I read that. That was great. That was great. The problem with looking for the disruptive element at a show like CES or at the next Apple event or whatever is that the disruptors don't come on cycles. They really don't. Apple had this thing, the iPhone, and then everything else has been an iteration of that for the last six years. And I mean, not everything, but a lot of what they've done. No, I completely agree with you. I mean, if you look at this show, I'm heatedly agreeing with you. OK, good. But if you look at the show, the show is all about the app. Is this history right now? It does happen. No, we've done this a lot. Actually, heated agreement happens here more often than that. Yeah, heated agreement. Yeah. Huh. Are you kidding? That's like a catchphrase. It's one of our favorites. Heated agreement. No, but if you look at the show, the show is all about phones being so, phone hardware and services and software being so commoditized. These are freezing. Yeah. And they're also glowing orange. It's weird. I know it's sweet potatoes, but it's strange. This is the next beginning. No, but if you look at what's happening in the show, the WebOS TV is, they glued a smartphone to a TV. Yes, exactly. This is a huge commodity. The tablet is a bigger smart. I mean, let's be honest. It does a lot more, but it also is just a bigger version of the smartphone interface. All of the successful tablets are based on smartphone interfaces, and they're almost identical. And now you've got the laptop is a tablet, a.k.a. a smartphone. It's not a laptop. It's not a tablet. Right. The TV is. It's just something that sucks. The TV now has cards. Windows 8, everybody. We made it suck more. That is what excites me about, see, wearables almost in a way are like, your phone has a light, you wearables, your phone has a light sensor, but what if you had a motion sensor on your wrist? It's like, that also in a way is an extension of the smartphone thing. Yeah, they're all, it's a sensory problem. That's the problem with the watch where the Galaxy Gear is like, it's like a smartphone on your wrist. That's the problem. It gives you smartphone notifications on your wrist. What's interesting about the Oculus Rift, this is why it excites me, is it has nothing to do with notifications or apps. Yeah, it has nothing to do with, I get what you're saying. Or user interfaces. It has to do with a physical, visceral experience. And it changes the way you experience things that you're familiar with. And I think that, see, that's where 4K for me breaks down a little bit, where it's like 3D, I kind of get, because it does change your experience in a visceral way. 4K is like a higher quality version of the same experience. You got to go walk the floor and go to Sony. I can't see that curve. I can't see the curve. No, fuck the curve. LG. The trouble with the curve. Oh my god, did you see that photo shot, by the way, of Michael Bay? I think one of our guys did it. Maybe. It's like Michael Bay and it's trouble with the curve. I believe Jordan did that. Was it Jordan? Jordan just did some extreme fist pumping. Jordan's like, no, that was me. Can we get that up, please? I'm sorry. I know it's totally off topic. Look, here's what I'll say to you. I haven't seen it. And this is, Sony has it, and there's a handful of other companies that have it. They have extended dynamic range TVs. Oh, this is the Dolby Vision thing? It's Dolby Vision. So Matt McCray, by the way, it's his 40th birthday today. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, buddy. We were watching Oblivion on one of his new TVs, and it has extended dynamic range. And he's like, watch what's going to happen. There's going to be an explosion, and you're going to feel hot. Oh, that's cool. You're going to feel heat. It's not because the TV is radiating heat at me. It's because that was so incredibly bright. I thought it was because there was heat. No, they weren't blasting heat at me. It was so much brighter than a regular TV. Yeah. In that moment that all of us were like, that's the tooth. No, but what you just described is the toothbrush. What you just described is exactly. That's a gimmick. It's exactly the innovation of the toothbrush, which is like, what if we took, we abstracted this thing and put it over here? But. There it is. Can I relay a story, a moral debate that occurred? Are we in an hour yet? All right, good. I'm so close to having a burger. I'm not hearing anything. I'm so close to having a burger. Go ahead. Let's hear your story. We debated whether, there was a lot of debate about the Michael Bay clip. And we felt bad. Like, at some point you feel bad. You watch it enough times, and you feel bad for the guy. Like, he's obviously just nervous and feels anxious. You don't feel that bad. And eventually I just said, you know who just put this on the internet? Michael Bay. Yeah. It's like he would just, what? What is this? Your fire in your seat to keep warm. I feel heat. I don't get it. I don't understand it. You should go look at, Sony has extended dynamic range. Visio has them. Do you see? I get it now. I'm trying. We should end this. Oh, hold on a second. Neelai, you didn't answer the question. What's your favorite? Yeah, what's your favorite? What's your favorite thing? Besides John Legere. Yeah, please, let's not talk about. Can I get deep? Can I get real deep? I prefer you just work with me. No, I was walking through the Samsung booth today and I came to a realization about Samsung. Yeah. No, I was playing with a Galaxy Tab Pro. They're the biggest curve maker in the world. Yes, that is true. This 12-inch tablet that can run Android apps and run curve apps. I've not thought of that term in a long time. No, and I realized, yes, Samsung has no editors. Actually, that's a good, well. It's a terrible term. It's a great term. OK, it's bad on every level. Let's keep going. We probably should do a roundup of those tomorrow. What was your realization? I mean, I can't believe we've done this whole show with a friend trying to say the right thing. What was your realization? Curve roundup tomorrow. No, it's, you know what? Putting someone on it. Samsung, like, epitomizes CS to me. They have no editor. They're like, we made a TV that can bend this way and that way. It's like, here's a tablet that can run apps and Windows, which no one has ever asked for. Here's a watch. Here's a home theater system you didn't want. And it's great. Samsung is a company that is constantly proving to the world that they can have weird to bad ideas and then turn them into products and sell them. Yeah, but you know, once in a while, one of those bad ideas is a good idea. And they hit. Is this what your favorite thing is, the Samsung booth? No, it's basically just CS. And Samsung epitomizes CS in a way that few other companies here do. They're just trying stuff. And if you remember, like, three years ago, Intel and Microsoft were here just trying stuff. They're just doing weird stuff. And the only company here. What was three years? Three years ago, it was like millions of weird tablets. Are we really going to be spelunking back to three years ago? No, I'm just saying, I'm very familiar with that. I don't remember when they did that weird of a step. Here's what I have. 2011. Ultrabooks? Have you seen as many? Android tablets. Let's say white box. Have you seen as many gigantic Samsung phones here as I have? Yeah. Everyone here is carrying a Note. A lot of people are carrying Samsung phones. Every executive I meet with is carrying a Note, not an iPhone. I think that's wild. And it's because they have gigantic screens. It's because of screen size. It's not, I'm not convinced it's because of software. They don't like the software. They don't like anything. I think that it is. And it's like Samsung just hit on this idea that people want big screens by accident. But they hit on them. Do you want? Oh my god. Do you want some weirdness? Well, this is odd. You have very strong hands. Vlad. I want you to sanitize them after that. I don't ever want to touch anything again. I don't know where these shoes have been. Actually, I know one place they've been. In your sweet hands. I can just burp in clean things. We're done. Whatever. Samsung is CS. CS is Samsung. People do weird shit here, and I love it. So wait. What's your product of the show? The Pebble. What? You say, I had a realization, Samsung. And it's like, 20 minutes later, what's your new product? Well, I like that Pebble watch. No, I had like a weird Samsung moment. So how do you feel about the Galaxy Pro? Why am I touching anything else? I don't know. The Galaxy Pro is just another Samsung tablet. No, the Galaxy Pro is Samsung just curfing Windows Phone. Honestly, I have to say, if there is a person. Curfing twice. If there's a person who's watched this podcast. What did I say earlier? This video podcast. You've made a mistake. If there's a person who's watched this all the way through and was like, I enjoyed that. I'd like to see another one of those. There's so many of them. That person is sick, and they need help. They need the help that only. This is my fault. That only an expert, a mental health expert can provide. And I want them to get it. Is this my fault? OK, that's the Vergecast. Joanna, thank you so much for joining us. I've ruined everything. It was really wonderful to have you. And I have to say, enlightening on several levels. It does not sound like that. We've made a lot of mistakes. We'll be back tomorrow, allegedly, for the, will it be our final Vergecast? Thursday? What do we do? Friday. We do a Friday? No, we don't. No, we don't. Thursday's our final Vergecast. Oh, thank god. Friday, the show basically is over. Michael, do we have any hand sanitizer? Do we do? Yes. Buckets of it. Can I have it right now? Can I have it sooner? Is there french fries that are warm? There's like paint thinner over there. How is it that we have a bucket, like a jar of paint thinner, but not hand sanitizer over there? What about warm french fries? Yes. I love this shot, by the way. I just touched the man's shoes. It's my favorite shot that we have. That's the Vergecast. We'll be back tomorrow with the final CES. It was a high five. You don't want to high five those hands. Surprise five. That was a surprise hit in the head. Thanks for watching. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, even though they are all going to be brushing their teeth with the Bluetooth. Oh god. Rock and roll. Paul. Paul. Paul. Paul! Paul! | [
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"text": " You can't even see it."
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"text": " Because you guys had all these official things and I didn't have anything, so I asked to"
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"text": " Why did you have Thomas Ricker's baby?"
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"text": " My hair was so long."
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"text": " It smells like man."
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"text": " Don't be bringing this new-fangled sexism."
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"text": " No, but no, it doesn't matter."
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"text": " I ate all your French fries."
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"text": " The man who brought them said there's no more sweet potato fries."
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"text": " I just felt badly."
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"text": " Anyhow, this is the Vergecast where we discuss the week in technology and technology-related"
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"text": " items."
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"text": " Can we put that up again?"
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"text": " That was an hour ago."
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"text": " What was that?"
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"text": " What are we like?"
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"text": " Are you plugged in now?"
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"text": " No, I'm not."
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"text": " I forgot."
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"text": " I think this is really fantastic."
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"text": " Can I just point out?"
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"text": " Let's move to the next one."
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"text": " Your claim is that I don't need this because they're right there."
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"text": " But you're wearing it in the wrong way."
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"text": " Right, because it's to look official."
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"text": " Speaking of official."
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"text": " Speaking of trolls, let's talk about John Legere."
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"text": " Why did you leave?"
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"text": " It seems like you left the verge to go to ABC News."
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"text": " In the night, you're a dead man."
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"text": " That's what happened."
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"text": " I just saw Nick Bunton."
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"text": " I saw Nick, yeah."
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"text": " Great guy who was going to gamble, and if he wins, I've told him to put 20 down for me."
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"text": " This could be a big night for me."
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"text": " By the way, I tweeted $4,000, and you can get a MacBook Air instead of a baby."
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"text": " What's your device of the show, Joanna?"
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"text": " It's pretty impressive when I feel uncomfortable."
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"text": " Me too."
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"text": " So congratulations, you two."
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"text": " You would."
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"text": " Joanna, we're at CES, the Consumer Electronics Show."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " What's your gadget of the show?"
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"text": " I've been thinking about this question all day."
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"text": " By the way, Joanna is a columnist"
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"text": " Because they're marketing this product"
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"text": " Not true."
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"text": " You know why?"
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"text": " Because if you want to eat a bunch of food,"
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"text": " no amount of buzzing will stop you."
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"text": " No, I'll tell you."
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"text": " That's a great way to review."
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"text": " I'll tell you."
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"text": " I watched this video where you just began to eat."
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"text": " You get the fork out at your favorite restaurant,"
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"text": " and then you feel like such a loser for having the fork."
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"text": " I did that in New York for the last month when I was in New"
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"text": " I took it to Chinese restaurants."
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"text": " Yeah, but I think that's what the smoke detector's about."
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"text": " Have you met Craigslist?"
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"text": " Several times."
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"text": " Should I search for this in Las Vegas or in your hometown?"
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"text": " No, and you know what, the thing with the smoke detector"
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"text": " But everything is trying to solve a problem, right?"
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"text": " I agree."
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"text": " Yeah, but that's you."
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"text": " Why doesn't the fork just know?"
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"text": " when they have the technology."
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"text": " By the way, what happens when you eat a sandwich?"
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"text": " What's the fork going to do then?"
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"text": " Nothing."
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"text": " That's also mentioned in the piece, OK?"
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"text": " OK."
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"text": " I'm just saying."
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"text": " But not mentioned by the people who make the fork ever."
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"text": " You know, like, you're having a Reuben."
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"text": " Oh, that's fork."
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"text": " But imagine if that fork."
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"text": " Well, imagine if the fork."
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"text": " Cookie, no fork."
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"text": " You know what the worst stuff you eat with your hands?"
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"text": " Popcorn, no fork."
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"text": " Yes, the worst things you eat with your hands."
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"text": " A bag of chips."
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"text": " Are you going in there with a fork?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " You're reaching in."
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"text": " Are you a dietitian?"
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"text": " A registered dietitian?"
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"text": " I am actually a professional dietitian."
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"text": " I spoke to some dietitians."
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"text": " Yeah, I go like this."
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"text": " You figured it out."
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"text": " And they said the same thing."
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"text": " I could have quoted you in my piece."
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"text": " The worst stuff you eat with your hands?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Who said that?"
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"text": " The dietitian."
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"text": " You did not read my first column."
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"text": " No, I didn't read the whole thing."
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"text": " I got bored, frankly."
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"text": " You know why? Because I don't want to read about forks."
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"text": " Better luck next time."
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"start": 1086.78,
"end": 1087.74,
"text": " She's writing about the fork."
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"text": " And then I was like, delete my entire internet history."
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"text": " I erased my hard drive."
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"text": " Then I went and bought every copy of that paper I could find"
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"text": " and burned it in a bonfire."
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"text": " What did I say here?"
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"text": " What are you saying?"
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"text": " OK."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"start": 1105.98,
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"text": " I like that B-roll."
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"start": 1107.26,
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"text": " Was that Dieter?"
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"text": " Who was that?"
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{
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"text": " Or was that you?"
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"text": " What?"
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"text": " I don't even know who that was."
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"text": " Sorry."
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"text": " I'm busy RLRTing everything you say."
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"text": " Grab the fork."
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"text": " Oh, OK."
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"text": " What are you RLRTing?"
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"text": " The worst things you eat with your hands."
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"text": " Can we roll my fork video in just next few minutes?"
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"text": " Yeah, let's get the fork video."
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"text": " OK, here we go."
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"text": " Here we go."
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"text": " How can we pull up Joanna having a fake baby in eight seconds"
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"text": " and get the fork video?"
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"text": " Wait, is this an ABC News report?"
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"text": " No, it's from Wall Street Journal."
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"text": " This is my first video."
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"text": " Oh, I'm sorry."
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"text": " Did they approve?"
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"text": " Can we show the Wall Street Journal video?"
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"text": " Oh, yeah."
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"text": " We've got to probably get some."
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"text": " Hey, Wall Street Journal."
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"text": " I'm Rupert."
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"text": " I'm not hearing anything from the control room."
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"text": " John."
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"text": " Oh, the Wall Street Journal video player isn't very good."
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"text": " So we're having some issues with that."
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"text": " Is that it?"
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"text": " Yes, we're all out of time."
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"text": " No, they just found it."
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"text": " Anyway."
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"text": " They're like they're covering."
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"text": " I can see John."
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"text": " This dude doesn't know how to search."
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"text": " Am I right?"
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"text": " So this is my favorite."
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"text": " Can you eat cereal with the fork?"
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"text": " Did you see the Pebble Steel?"
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"text": " Yeah, the Pebble Steel is nice, but like I'm not familiar."
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"text": " I was definitely scolded when I was younger for eating too fast."
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"text": " I've actually slowed down a little."
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"text": " This is the HapMap fork."
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"text": " Wow, it's so small."
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"text": " I'd love to make a pregnancy test."
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"text": " Guys, it's not a race, OK?"
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"text": " I think what's interesting about that is they're"
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"text": " And the biggest problem with all of this stuff,"
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"text": " whether it's the fork or the Fitbit or whatever,"
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"text": " You can look at it there or look at it there,"
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"text": " Here's what's happening in my house."
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"text": " The pebble you're not interested in."
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"text": " And OK, so you have like a fabric band."
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"text": " Have you tried the new one on?"
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " So you must like that better, right?"
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"text": " The new one?"
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"text": " Yeah, I never wanted that one."
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"text": " The new one kind of feels like a Casio."
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"text": " Yeah, it does."
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"text": " Not that Casio makes a bad calculator watch."
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"text": " We talked about this."
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"text": " Do we talk about this last time?"
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " It's French."
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"text": " Is your watch heavy?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " I used to wear a Michael Kors men's watch."
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"text": " I would call this heavy-ish."
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"text": " And I was saying that real watches are very heavy."
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"text": " That one is not heavy."
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"text": " I said the same thing."
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"text": " But you know what?"
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"text": " Technology wants to be light."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Technology wants to be light."
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"text": " And also, they can't charge $600 for that watch."
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"text": " What kind of phone are you using now?"
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"text": " An iPhone?"
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"text": " An iPhone."
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"text": " Does this feel like sweet freedom to you?"
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"text": " Oh, you guys both have Mophies."
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"text": " What's your battery life on right now?"
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"text": " Do you have the BlackBerry that I know you have with you?"
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"text": " I don't."
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"text": " I have a special keyboard."
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"text": " I also like the Typo keyboard."
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"text": " The one that clicks in the iPhone?"
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"text": " You have it?"
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"text": " Oh, I have it."
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"text": " Wait, you have what?"
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"text": " There's a basic BlackBerry."
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"text": " It's called BlackBerry now."
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"start": 1400.5,
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"text": " You know I still correct myself every time"
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},
{
"start": 1403.02,
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"text": " Wait, you have the keyboard that BlackBerry's suing over?"
},
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"text": " The Ryan Seacrest keyboard?"
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"text": " Where is it?"
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"text": " The Ryan Seacrest?"
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"text": " You don't have it on you?"
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"text": " I do have it in my bag."
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"text": " No."
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"text": " Oh my god."
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"text": " Wait, why don't we have one of these?"
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"text": " Is this an exclusive Wall Street Journal?"
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"text": " No, but I want to review it in the next couple of weeks."
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"text": " This is like, it doesn't even have a thing."
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"text": " It feels a little cheap, but I can type fast as hell."
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"text": " Well, you're in a Blackberry."
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"text": " Can I see it or what?"
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"text": " Well, it's a little slow because the battery is probably."
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"text": " Interesting problem."
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"text": " 100%."
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"text": " 100% every time to a good virtual keyboard typist."
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"text": " Or swipe."
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"text": " No, I don't want to."
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"text": " What is that?"
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " It's very good."
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"text": " What's that?"
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"text": " You want to do splits?"
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"text": " No, this is Sony's."
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"text": " Right now."
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"text": " Can you guys confirm that?"
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"text": " Give me a sentence."
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"text": " OK, you ready?"
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"text": " Here we go."
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"text": " Wait, hold on."
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"text": " Wait, someone should tell me what to do."
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"text": " and that's going to be our segment."
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"text": " OK, this is from John Legere."
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"text": " Wait, is that it?"
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"text": " I got, I have a mix."
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"text": " I mean, I definitely know the word desist does not have."
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"text": " I failed completely."
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"text": " OK, I'm just giving you an extents of the quote."
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"text": " OK, yeah, go ahead."
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"text": " Are we going to start typing as he's saying it?"
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"text": " No, I'm just going to say it."
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"text": " And then I'm going to drop my hands, and you're going to start typing."
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"text": " No, can you, we should just do it when we hear it,"
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"text": " Sure."
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"text": " You know how many billboards they are going to have to take down."
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"text": " Not a contraction, by the way."
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"text": " I mean, again, this is super fucking disturbing."
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"text": " It's just vibrating in her hands."
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"text": " It's just shaking, and then like, words are produced."
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"text": " Done."
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"text": " Done."
},
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"text": " I beat you on that one."
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"text": " No, I was ahead of you."
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"text": " I said done, and I beat you."
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"text": " Well, you have a contraction."
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"text": " Oh, no contraction."
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"text": " I definitely said no contraction."
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"text": " No, you have a typo."
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"text": " I have no typos."
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"text": " Havver."
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"text": " What do you got next?"
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"text": " We are done with me winning, right?"
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"text": " OK, you ready?"
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"text": " L-E-G-E-R-E. Why are we doing this right now?"
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"text": " So I have to say John Legere?"
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"text": " No, no, you don't have to do it."
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"text": " Wait, are we just going to start when you start talking?"
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"text": " OK, so John Legere today had a press conference."
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"text": " Is this the worst one you've had this whole series?"
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"text": " OK, so John Legere, T-Mobile press conference today."
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"text": " Right, that's awesome."
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"text": " And I'm going to say this very directly."
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"text": " No, he's throwing bombs left and right, which is great."
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"text": " And guess what?"
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"text": " If you just left AT&T, very few people are going to be like,"
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"text": " you know what?"
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"text": " Now I hate T-Mobile."
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"text": " In New York, you're going to have that."
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"text": " But you're going to leave T-Mobile."
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"text": " You misunderstand."
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"text": " Well, you're paying off the phone."
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"text": " like, look at all the money I'm saving, and then you can't"
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"text": " That's right."
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"text": " Hence, John Legere is a genius."
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"text": " If he's a genius, and he's a marketing phenomenon, why"
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"text": " What?"
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"text": " No, it was the pay your ETFs."
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"text": " Yeah, in some place, right?"
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"text": " But he's saying they have the best network."
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"text": " And here's where our thing is better."
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"text": " Here's what I like."
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"text": " John Legere seems more interesting to watch on stage"
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"text": " I will pay."
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"text": " I have the SIM card in my bag."
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"text": " OK, well, here it goes."
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"text": " Are you paying for T-Mobile right now?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " The worst he's going to get, he's not going to be happy"
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"text": " So AT&T has my iPhone."
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"text": " What about Metro PCS?"
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"text": " Yeah, what are you doing with Boost?"
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"text": " No, there's just the four."
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"text": " You know, the Sprint."
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"text": " Do you really?"
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"text": " Chicago, they're all over the place."
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"text": " Honestly, I've been thinking lately of switching to AT&T,"
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"text": " Can I just ask my question?"
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"text": " Not to T-Mobile."
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"text": " Of course."
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"text": " What is it?"
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"text": " My T-Mobile SIM card."
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"text": " You've been threatening us for a while."
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"text": " Will you switch?"
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"text": " I don't want it."
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"text": " I typo keyboard."
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"text": " I'm not like, guys, go out and get T-Mobile."
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"text": " Change.org position to stop my bullying."
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"text": " Please tweet that link at me."
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"text": " You are very angry, and I'm not exactly sure why."
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"text": " Do you miss us?"
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"text": " If you want to spend time."
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"text": " When you left, were you like, fuck yeah?"
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"text": " If you want to really get angry, you got a perfect target."
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"text": " AT&T sponsored database."
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"text": " It's like, hey, how are you doing?"
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"text": " I'm like, be on the Virgcast."
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"text": " And then she shows up, and she's like, why?"
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"text": " How much time?"
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"text": " We got to be here now, right?"
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"text": " 48 minutes?"
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"text": " It feels like the longest Virgcast of my life."
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"text": " Probably because you're bullying everybody."
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"text": " Probably because I'm here."
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"text": " OK, anyhow, if we can get out from under the boot"
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"text": " heel of Nilay Patel for one second, let's talk about 4K."
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"text": " On 4K."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Till we go."
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"text": " Well, tell me."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " You might be able to get it in the door of your, in Brooklyn."
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"text": " You know, just living the Brooklyn lifestyle, space,"
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"text": " I'm in the market for a new TV."
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " Don't buy a 105-inch 4K television."
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"text": " It's awesome."
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"text": " Here's an idea."
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"text": " It turns, and it curves."
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"text": " When is that coming out?"
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"text": " I read the post, but when is that coming out?"
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"text": " When is it coming out, Eli?"
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"text": " The Vizio?"
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"end": 2953.5,
"text": " End of the year."
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"text": " End of the year?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I can't wait that long."
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"text": " You don't need a new TV that badly."
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"text": " How old is your TV?"
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"text": " I bought it when I first started in Gadget five years ago."
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"text": " I did."
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"text": " Should I wait for that?"
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"text": " I would wait."
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"text": " I think it's probably going to happen this year."
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"text": " Do we really?"
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"text": " We believe it's in the screen."
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"text": " Well, it's the last thing Gene Munster said about it."
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"text": " It's coming now."
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"text": " Are you tweeting at people right now?"
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"text": " You're getting into an argument with people on Twitter"
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"text": " about your tirade."
},
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"text": " I have a lot of people here yelling at me for using"
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"text": " a hardware keyboard."
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"text": " They said they were unfollowing me."
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"text": " No, the Wall Street Journal audience"
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"text": " would be like, why aren't you using a full-size laptop"
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"text": " It's the booze."
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"text": " What did you make?"
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"text": " What do you make of Yahoo!"
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"text": " Let's get mad at her for a second."
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"text": " No comment."
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"text": " We just launched a new thing, or she just launched a new thing."
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"text": " They didn't put you on the board."
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"text": " No, they should have had a big picture of me."
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"text": " It should have been like Wall Street Journal, Fidgetle."
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"text": " Fidgetle."
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"text": " Or whatever hilarious punny name."
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"text": " Wall Street Journal."
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"text": " Wall Street Journal."
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"text": " I like the urge."
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"text": " Can we end this?"
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"text": " Everything is funny."
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"text": " I want to talk about the urge."
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"text": " I like how John just knew I was looking at him."
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"text": " I want to ask you guys some questions now."
},
{
"start": 3058.02,
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"text": " OK, go ahead."
},
{
"start": 3058.58,
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"text": " And it's time for me to ask you a question."
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{
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"text": " Yeah, please do."
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"text": " OK."
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"text": " Give me that ABC news situation."
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"text": " It's going to be what it's like."
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"text": " This is what she learned from Diane Sawyer, right?"
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"text": " That's right."
},
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"text": " What is your top pick of the show?"
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " That's where you want to go?"
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"text": " Look, he's answering."
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"text": " So I think this show."
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"text": " A different question for you."
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"text": " No, I mean, there's interesting stuff in the show."
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"text": " And we actually have some really interesting reports"
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"text": " No, we have no."
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"text": " Every single person in the industry is over there."
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"text": " Yeah, that's right."
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"text": " Our writers are doing some very interesting stories right now"
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"text": " No, it's actually like, if you put the robotic stuff,"
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"text": " like, actually, when you start to think about what was"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " It's not like Skype when you're looking at."
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"text": " and all that stuff."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Is that the one that's at the Intel booth?"
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"text": " The Crystal Cove?"
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"text": " You tried it today, right?"
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"text": " Yeah, I played the thing."
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"text": " And I was so embarrassed while I was trying it,"
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"text": " because inside the Oculus Rift, it's so awesome."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " But I was sitting in that chair with a big audience of people"
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"text": " And I knew that all they were looking at was."
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"text": " Yeah, no, no, no."
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"text": " It's crazy."
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"text": " And every person was doing that."
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"text": " You had to go."
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"text": " But people were doing this."
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"text": " Yeah, it's insane."
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"text": " I'll say this."
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"text": " I think that that company."
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"text": " like this."
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"text": " And it did that, what you did right now."
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"text": " And it was just the most insane."
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"text": " And my own hands were disorienting to me."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And there's no way to explain the feeling of your own head."
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"text": " Because your head was detached from your head."
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"text": " Because my whole brain was somewhere else."
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"text": " And to explain the fact of like, what am I seeing?"
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"text": " And it's your body."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That's the way I felt the first time that we played with it"
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"text": " last year at CES."
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"text": " And Addy did an interview with Palmer and Brendan"
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"text": " And they talk about where they're headed with it."
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"text": " That's what my question is."
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"text": " Right?"
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"text": " And then a year went by."
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"text": " Well, actually HD and 4K have a delivery problem."
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"text": " But I can tell you that we're both right."
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"text": " But the thing with."
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"text": " I want somebody to sing over there."
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"text": " I know."
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"text": " Paul Miller."
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"text": " Can we make it virtual?"
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"text": " It goes to Paul Miller."
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"text": " OK."
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"text": " Make your point."
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"text": " Because I really like that."
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"text": " So those are your answers."
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"text": " Those are your answers."
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"text": " I need to ask Neil I an important question now."
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"text": " Well, I just want to say."
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"text": " OK, good."
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"text": " Is this history right now?"
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"text": " Actually, heated agreement happens here more often than that."
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"text": " No, but if you look at what's happening in the show,"
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"text": " the WebOS TV is, they glued a smartphone to a TV."
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"text": " The TV is."
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"text": " Windows 8, everybody."
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"text": " but what if you had a motion sensor on your wrist?"
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"text": " It's like, that also in a way is an extension"
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"text": " this is why it excites me, is it has nothing"
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"text": " Yeah, it has nothing to do with, I get what you're saying."
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"text": " You got to go walk the floor and go to Sony."
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"text": " No, fuck the curve."
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"text": " The trouble with the curve."
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"text": " Oh my god, did you see that photo shot,"
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"text": " by the way, of Michael Bay?"
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"text": " I'm sorry."
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"text": " Look, here's what I'll say to you."
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"text": " I haven't seen it."
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"text": " They have extended dynamic range TVs."
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"text": " Oh, this is the Dolby Vision thing?"
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"text": " So Matt McCray, by the way, it's his 40th birthday today."
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"text": " Happy birthday, buddy."
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"text": " Oh, that's cool."
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"text": " You're going to feel heat."
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"text": " It's not because the TV is radiating heat at me."
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"text": " It was so much brighter than a regular TV."
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"text": " In that moment that all of us were like, that's the tooth."
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"text": " No, but what you just described is the toothbrush."
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"text": " What you just described is exactly."
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"text": " what if we took, we abstracted this thing and put it over here?"
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"text": " There it is."
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"text": " Can I relay a story, a moral debate that occurred?"
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"text": " Are we in an hour yet?"
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"text": " All right, good."
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"text": " I'm so close to having a burger."
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"text": " I'm so close to having a burger."
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"text": " We debated whether, there was a lot of debate"
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"text": " You watch it enough times, and you feel bad for the guy."
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"text": " Michael Bay."
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"text": " Your fire in your seat to keep warm."
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"text": " You should go look at, Sony has extended dynamic range."
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"text": " Visio has them."
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"text": " I get it now."
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"text": " I'm trying."
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"text": " Oh, hold on a second."
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"text": " Neelai, you didn't answer the question."
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"text": " What's your favorite?"
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"text": " Yeah, what's your favorite?"
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"text": " Besides John Legere."
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"text": " Can I get deep?"
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"text": " I prefer you just work with me."
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"text": " No, I was walking through the Samsung booth today"
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"text": " No, I was playing with a Galaxy Tab Pro."
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"text": " They're the biggest curve maker in the world."
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"text": " Yes, that is true."
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"text": " This 12-inch tablet that can run Android apps and run curve"
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"text": " apps."
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"text": " No, and I realized, yes, Samsung has no editors."
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"text": " Actually, that's a good, well."
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"text": " OK, it's bad on every level."
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"text": " What was your realization?"
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"text": " I mean, I can't believe we've done this whole show"
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"text": " What was your realization?"
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"text": " Curve roundup tomorrow."
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"text": " No, it's, you know what?"
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"text": " Putting someone on it."
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"text": " Samsung, like, epitomizes CS to me."
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"text": " They're like, we made a TV that can bend this way and that way."
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"text": " Here's a watch."
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"text": " Here's a home theater system you didn't want."
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"text": " And it's great."
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"text": " Samsung is a company that is constantly"
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"text": " and then turn them into products and sell them."
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"text": " And they hit."
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"text": " Is this what your favorite thing is, the Samsung booth?"
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"text": " No, it's basically just CS."
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"text": " What was three years?"
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"text": " Three years ago, it was like millions of weird tablets."
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"text": " Are we really going to be spelunking back"
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"text": " to three years ago?"
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"text": " No, I'm just saying, I'm very familiar with that."
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"text": " Here's what I have."
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"text": " 2011."
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"text": " Ultrabooks?"
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"text": " Have you seen as many?"
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"text": " Android tablets."
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"text": " Let's say white box."
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"text": " Have you seen as many gigantic Samsung phones here as I have?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Everyone here is carrying a Note."
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"text": " I think that's wild."
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"text": " And it's because they have gigantic screens."
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"text": " It's because of screen size."
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"text": " It's not, I'm not convinced it's because of software."
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"text": " They don't like the software."
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"text": " They don't like anything."
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"text": " I think that it is."
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"text": " And it's like Samsung just hit on this idea"
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"text": " that people want big screens by accident."
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"text": " But they hit on them."
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"text": " Do you want?"
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"text": " Oh my god."
},
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"text": " Do you want some weirdness?"
},
{
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"text": " Well, this is odd."
},
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"text": " You have very strong hands."
},
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"text": " Vlad."
},
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"text": " I want you to sanitize them after that."
},
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"text": " I don't ever want to touch anything again."
},
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"text": " I don't know where these shoes have been."
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"text": " Actually, I know one place they've been."
},
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"text": " In your sweet hands."
},
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"text": " I can just burp in clean things."
},
{
"start": 4013.02,
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"text": " We're done."
},
{
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"text": " Whatever."
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"text": " Samsung is CS."
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Sa5MQYa0DqE | Welcome to The Verge Fast at CES 2014. Day zero, Monday, whatever you want to see. I'm Josh Dupolsky. I'm Neelay Patel. I'm Vlad Severo. We have a Vlad with us today. There's a Vlad sighting. A rare creature from the mountains of Bulgaria. How are you? I'm actually from the flatlands. Flatlands. The flatlands of Bulgaria. But nonetheless, rare. What is the difference between the mountainous and flatland Bulgarians? I think that kind of goes without saying, isn't it? The elevation. Elevation, cuisine. Everybody knows the flatlanders in Bulgaria are far classier than the highlanders. Actually, we love each other. We have a very good relationship. Eddie, we're at CES. And now that this racism is over. We're at CES. The show has not officially started yet. I don't know why we keep telling this lie. CES needs to stop lying to us. CES is lying. I'm not going to be held accountable for their lies. Technically speaking, you go around the booth and there's all this infrastructure going on. There's trains and whatnot. The actual show starts tomorrow. And today, it's basically all the companies announcing their products. Because tomorrow, when the floor opens, they want people to go see the new stuff that they made. And play with it. But we've had a crazy, insane day. Today has been a very strange day. It's been a strange day. It's had its ups and downs. It's not over. Right now, we have the Intel Live blog happening. There's probably news breaking at this moment. And then we also have an Audi event tonight. And the Audi event is actually going to be very interesting. Because late last night, Google issued a press release saying they're doing Android in cars. GM is a partner. Audi is a partner. Open Automotive Alliance? Yes. Just like their great Open Hands-on Alliance. Which everybody loves. Yeah, everyone remembers how well that went. The Android isn't fragmented at all. No. Well. Really? I'm going to be started on the Note 3. Go ahead. Well, the big rumor is that Audi is going to have some Google integration, some Google Last, Google Now kind of stuff going on in the car. So that's going to be a big one. I will say that the Google, the Open Automotive Alliance, a terrible name in reference to a failed idea. And just literally hours after GM announced a proprietary app store for their proprietary OS in the Corvette. It's very confusing. It feels like a real half step. Which is not uncommon for Google to do. Like, we'll throw it out there. We'll have an alliance. Maybe something will happen. It's a great sort of. I mean, if you're Google, it's a great press release to issue sort of at night as CS winds down. Because everybody gets all excited. Android on cars. Has anybody ever tried to put anything in a car? Cars are some of the least standardized things in the world. And to think that automotive manufacturers are going to come together and standardize in an OS, an interface, is just insane. Yeah, like if you try to get a new stereo unit for your car, there's a spreadsheet of figuring out what kind of adapter you have. Even for model years, they're like, you know, you know a couple of years and there's a difference between them. Literally the only thing I can think of in cars that's standardized is the cigarette socket. And I'm assuming that like big tobacco had to like. Wheels, tires. No, those are totally not. You can't take cars off rims. Oh, I don't know that. I didn't know that because I'm not a rim guy. Yeah. Who is it? Okay, I'm going to move on from that. I consider that their way of differentiating. It's exactly the same way with hardware manufacturers with Android smartphones. Yeah, I guess so. They actually do worse software than the stock Android software just to be different and just to differentiate. Oh, you're talking about the software in cars? Yeah, and I'm saying. You're going to get me started on the software. But the car manufacturers are just no different from hardware manufacturers. Have you seen the software that the car manufacturers put in their cars? If you think Android fragmentation and skinning on phones is bad, just wait until like, I don't know, like any major car company does stuff to you. Yeah, but even people who I don't think are very good at UI like Samsung or LG. I think them doing something, not that they're going to be doing it, but something like that in a car would be, it's kind of like cable boxes. Yeah. They're so bad that almost anything that's more current would be an improvement over what they. Like, let's put it this way. My bad Panasonic, like two-year-old Panasonic smart TV interface is preferable to my Time Warner cable box. Yeah. In terms of like getting around. And all of that is preferable to like what's in your car. Yes. All of that, I would rather use my cable box than the stereo in my car. Yeah. Which is crazy. And so let's give them Android and see what, like that's what I mean by the open handset alliance was like, here's a industry body. And like for some parts of the industry it works, right? For like chip makers. Yeah. They get Android builds early, they optimize them, they ship them off to manufacturers. And manufacturers are like, we have bad software designers, let's do stuff to Android. Like just imagine how that's going to work with car makers. It's not going to be good. But anyhow, but the thing is there's not, there hasn't really even been news yet. Right. And it's just that like Google's like, hey, we're bringing these, we're going to have these companies participate in this open auto alliance or whatever. So the Audi event tonight could be the first place that we see some. And that's exciting because they're doing all this. There's a lot of like robot car or self-driving car stuff happening here. Yeah. And that's interesting. It's nice, but it's future tech. It's like 10 years from now. I get the sense that self-driving cars are a lot closer to people. That's just my. You know, but this is the guy, you're the guy who's like, is this going to happen? It's I can actually, this year I can like prove it to you. I think I've now been dead. Mary had this conversation on the clock show, but I think 4k really widespread for adoption is like a decade away. I think one of the, I'm now more convinced than ever after today, I think one of the biggest stories. Oh really? No, I think it's like two years away. And I think one of the biggest stories of the show, you are smoking very good weed. No, I think one of the biggest stories of the show is the fact that Netflix is more poised than ever to completely dominate like how we make and distribute. Well, there's no question that Netflix is in a killer position. He's basically sprinting from press event to press event to walk on stage and be like, he has the same basic thing that he's saying everywhere. He's like, you know, we demoed Netflix to the executives of any company here several years ago. They laughed at us and said, get better. And then we got better and now we're here. And it's like, and then they begged me to make 4k. And then I waited. But here's the thing. And then he's like, and now we're shooting house of cards in 4k. And they're like, everyone's so happy about it. Like that's cool. Shoot in 4k, make it available on Netflix in 4k. There are no TVs and there's no bandwidth. So the bandwidth, they've gotten really close to the bandwidth. We'll have to see. No, no. I mean, this is super nerdy, but all of these companies this year, the TVs have hardware decoders for H.265, which is the next one. Right. And they can do 4k in like 15 megabits a second. That's what Sony just announced. Vizia told me the same thing last night. Every TV, like there's this like, yeah, but that's the TV's released this year, which means really 50 percent of the TVs released this year or less than. I bet it's like 20 percent of the TVs released this year will have H.265 decoders. I just bought a new TV, you know, like every TV you can buy. Is it 4k? Cyber Monday, man. But it has 3D, right? And I was like, well, it came with glasses, the whole thing. Yeah. And I was like, well, I have a 3D TV. I'm going to put on the glasses and try to find something to watch. I couldn't do it. It's not available to watch. With 4k, you're going to buy this stuff. And if you have Netflix, which most people buying 4k TVs at this moment in time have, they're going to have great things to watch immediately. Because Netflix is committed to that. But you're talking about the new buyers starting in 2014 and we're talking about probably like... You're saying, but I'm saying mainstream adoption like easily now within five years, like the TV that you buy in the store. I mean, I think five is not unrealistic, but I think that you're really not going to see the kind of penetration that HD has for another decade. But on that point about what does actually mainstream penetration and adoption mean, because it's always gradual. Even with HD, which has been around for such a long time, and we consider it adopted to that degree, there are still really mainstream channels that don't... I'm talking about consumer purchase of television. But when you say HD, like Fox broadcast in 720p. No, no. That's actually the point. No, that's the point that I made earlier, which is like the networks are still a lot of the rest are shooting... Never ever Google 1080p penetration with save search on. Come on. Just do not do that. No, the networks are still doing shows in 720. But here's what I'll say. So just imagine the industry, and I said this earlier, but I'll repeat it. Newsrooms, you need 4k gear to do your show. Oh God, page two gets worse. Soap operas, you need 4k gear to do all your shows. Dramas, you need 4k gear. I mean, they are starting to shoot. A lot of people shoot on RED. There's other standards out there. Visio is shooting the... They shot the Rose Bowl. They hired Rez to shoot the Rose Bowl in 4k. I know it's possible. What I'm saying is you have to completely redo the infrastructure of the shows and in the homes. But here's the thing. You don't have to redo the infrastructure. You just have to get a new TV in the home. You have to get a new TV and you have to get new gear to shoot on. Because most people are... But they're already using gear. But networks are shooting on 720. Yeah, but that's like that stuff. But the biggest networks in America are shooting on 720. In 720. Right. And so the next jump they're going to make. They never upgrade to 1080. Sure, they won't go to 1080. They'll go to 4k. But Fox is already... Do you see the thing David did about the NFL and Fox? They're already using 4k cameras all the way. I understand that the people are shooting it. I know that it's out there. What I'm saying is you have networks, lots of them, the vast majority. They haven't even gone full HD. They're doing 720. They'll probably never do it. They probably will jump to 4k. But think about how long it took. Now, we just got to a point where it's saturated here, where basically the entire market is. But there are still some channels that don't do HD broadcast. There's plenty of channels that don't do HD broadcast in America. And we've just gotten to the point where it's really saturated. Everybody's just got their HD TV. But this is why I'm saying I think Netflix is the story of the show. Yeah. I think for early adopters, you're right. LG had Netflix on stage. I believe Samsung had Netflix on stage. I think Sony had Netflix on stage. When you talk about the companies that are making the future of TV and doing interesting things on TV, yes, the networks have all the, you know, like Amy has Mad Men, right? But Netflix does have House of Cards. They do have Orange is the Black. And they announced tonight at the Sony event, everything they make from now on is going to be 4k. No, I get that people are making it. But that content vault of like, it's not just one movie. It's not just Oblivion that you can get on Sony. It takes 50 hours to download. It's 60 hours of TV. No, I think Netflix is going to be first in because they are on the cutting edge of delivery. Right? That's the easiest part for them. But the thing that enabled that, like there's like a weird, this is super nerdy and I have no idea if we should do this story. Let's do it. But there's a weird confluence of like all the components like made it this year. So last year they were showing like panels, right? Like here's a panel with all these pixels on it and there's nothing to show on it. This year they're like behind the panel, there's HDMI 2.0 that has like better security for all these streaming services. There's like hardware code. Better handshake problem. Yeah, exactly. And then there's better, like there's these hardware decoders, the next gen codecs that enable them to bring the broadband requirement. And then there's just like, just down the line, all these components are better and cheaper. Right. I know. And I totally get that. But what I'm saying is everybody, like TV just got really good in the last five years. Like people are like, whoa, TV can be amazing. Right? And everybody just got their HD sets. They're like, oh my God, HD is a thing now. I don't think everybody just got their HD sets. If you go back five years ago, I'd like to know, but I'll bet you five years ago the adoption of HD sets in America was probably 50% or something. It probably was not even close to being the majority. Well, I don't know. Every time I try to Google it, bad things happen. How about HD TV ownership per capita or something or by year? No matter what you Google, it ends up in porn. It took a decade of America saying we were going to do HD to it being saturated. Right. It's going to be gradual. But at the same time, I think something that- We're still not at 100. No, we're not at 100. The very eighth is 75%. Okay. There you go. I think the thing that both of you guys are missing out in your discussion of five years or 10 years or how many years it's going to take for 4K to become the standard is the fact that you actually totally agree on the fact that this is going to be the next standard. Well, unless somebody decides that 8K is the next place. Because it's kind of BS that 8K is going to come along two years after 4K becomes a thing. No, I actually don't think- This is what I'm saying about this weird little component story that's happening in the background here. All of these standards that have been in flux kind of just got locked down. People have been telling me this now for two days. But Sony and Samsung don't agree on delivery. Yeah, they do. They do now? They all settled on H265, which they're calling HEVC. Super nerdy components. Okay, so H265 is in play. All I'm saying is we are agreeing essentially that 4K is going to be- I don't think we're going to jump to 8K because that's not how this industry works. It's going to go to the 4K level and then they'll have something new to sell. The watch store here is so stupid. Which will be 8K. Sorry. But to your point, you were talking about it being gradual and still not being- and like you said, a lot of people haven't gone to full HD, but they're still doing 720. I think that to think about people just getting HD as a thing, to imagine those consumers going out and investing in something where the differences are- they're definitely noticeable to us, I think to an average consumer, I think the difference between full HD and 4K is a much tougher sell. I just don't think they see- It's about the size of the TV actually. Well, it might be- If you're looking at like 65 to 85 inches, again, we're not really talking about mainstream consumers of that range. Well, we're not. 60 is I think becoming the most popular size. Right. I guess in the US that's- I was going to say, but what's interesting is because in Europe and in Asia, people are living in smaller homes or in apartments. They live in very congested cities. But the suburban lifestyle has been like basically is kind of crumbling in America. I mean, people have been like, hey, we expanded out to the suburbs and it turns out that's really terrible and hard to do a bunch of things. And people are starting to migrate back to- if you want to get deep on some like the socioeconomics of what's happening in the world, people are actually starting to gravitate more towards crowded cities in America than they are being out in the cut. And so when you start thinking about that, to Vlad's point, I do think you have a problem if the selling point is big ass TVs. I have a 42 inch- I have a small- we have a very small living room, it's only 12 feet wide. Anything bigger than like 55, I couldn't even put 55 where I would want to put it. At this point, I'd have to like take some shelving out of the room. But anything bigger than that would be too big for my living room. And so if people do- if we look at the next decade and people do continue to gravitate towards cities- Yeah, that's what happened in like a small way. And their McMansions continue to crumble in the suburbs, which is what I think is going to be happening. They're trying TVs left to rot. As the polar ice cap melts and water levels rise, people move inland towards cities. I mean, these companies are selling giant televisions. They can try to sell them, but when everybody's living in Manhattan, they're going to have to sell 45 inch- 45 inch 720p. Well, how old is your TV? The one in my living room is three years old, and the one in my bedroom is like two years old. And I have no immediate plans to upgrade. Right, well, because they're just screens, right? Yeah, and I'm an early adopter. But they're fundamentally just screens for you. There's no added benefit. Your Roku isn't going to start looking better on a slightly better screen. You can't pay money to get much more out of a TV. If Netflix was like, we offer all of our shows, everything now, the whole catalog, everything that's available on Netflix is now available in 4K, it would not move the needle for me in any way. I just don't have- you know what would move the needle is like- Oh, so you know what would immediately run out of money? Here's what would move the needle. Time Warner is like, you never have to worry about your bandwidth degrading or being throttled. And so you can- that might be like, okay, if I don't have to contend with Time Warner's garbage service, where it fluctuates between- like I pay for 50, but a lot of times it's 10. Like if I don't have to pay for that and worry about troubleshooting my router, and then 4K content being offered, and they're like, hey, you only need really 15 to get the 4K content, and it's going to look not artifacted. Like, okay, maybe I'd begin to consider the thing, but we don't have that. The solution exists. Yeah, if you live in Korea. Well, I was going to say it in an evidence, but yeah. You're the people who make Samsung TVs. I know, and in Korea, just like in Japan and Europe, just like in Asia, in Asia and Europe, they had HD for 10 years before it came to America. I mean, they were doing HD. Wait, wait, wait, are you kidding? No. It's the other way around. No, it's not. We did HD. Wait for it. There's still all kinds of places in Europe that don't have HD. Forget about Europe. Okay, Europe. But in Asia, I mean, I remember going to Japan in like 2001, and it was just like HD. It was all over the place. Wide screen television was all over the place. HD was all over the place. And I was like, this is insane. What's happening? And it took forever. It took another 10 years for it to really become a thing. Those places are weird. They're weird comparisons because there's so much... We're going to hear first. Neil, I think Japan's weird. It's so much smaller than America, right? Yes, yes. Let's rebuild all the infrastructure in Japan. It's like, let's rebuild all the infrastructure in one state in America. I agree. That's why they're swiping their phones to get on the subway and taking bullet trains all over the place. But their infrastructure is like, they have their shit together. We do not. But you know, Josh, you say something like, if all of Netflix is available in 4K, we'll move the needle for you. But you don't actually need a really coherent or excellent argument for why you would want 4K. For a lot of people, it's really just one thing. So for sports fans, NFL fans, if the NFL decides to just switch to 4K, and then the TVs become available... And honestly, the jump between last year, where everybody was saying, we have 4K TVs, we'll let you know about pricing and availability later, and now where they're saying we have whole lines of 4K TVs... Guys, I need to interrupt everything. Yes? We have breaking news. What is it? Intel has unveiled its own digital assistant called Jarvis that wraps around your head, wraps around your ear, impairs your smartphone, and then remotely interacts with you, which is insane. Wait, isn't Jarvis the name of the... The one from Iron Man. From Iron Man? Yeah. That's gotta be a copyrighted thing. So Intel is happening literally live as we're speaking. Is he wearing it in that photo? Yeah. Can we zoom in on that photo? So this is like a classic Intel move, by the way. Intel doesn't sell anything. Get closer. Enhance. Enhance. Actually, enhance on the Robocop, because that's cool too. Intel has introduced a robotic cop that is going to police the streets of New Detroit. What's going on with my hair? That would be amazing. Now look, it's happening here. There's like a weird wave. It's like my hair wants to go surfing. Yeah. Anyhow, go on. I'm just saying. Carry on. Okay, so Jarvis has been announced. This is like a classic Intel move. Breaking exclusive Intel... Well, let me just read this list. My chair is like... This is crazy. Just now. I feel like I'm going to just slide back into this TV. Go. Do it. It's like somebody's oiled the wheels of this. Really? I wonder who that could have been. Earlier tonight, we had a chance to sit down with... Let me just read these headlines to you. Go on. Intel unveils Jarvis smart headset. Intel debuts prototype smart watch. Intel partners with Barney's and other fashion leaders on smart wristwear. You know what's in it? Intel introduces Edison, a computer the size of an SD card. What? Hey, you know what's in? Smart. Smart stuff. I think Intel's whole thing is they're trying to prove that they can make tiny, powerful... They introduced this processor called Quark, which is like a tiny little processor. It's adorable. I think Beanbird runs on that. Beanbird? Birdbean? We should talk about LG. Well, we should talk about something other than 4K. We should. Because I like... I know, you need to. We talked this topic. No, I mean, we just had to keep having this conversation. I'm like, it's going to be a while. And you're like, I think it's going to happen sooner than you think. And then we just talk about that for 25 minutes. Here's what I will say. To your point, your very cogent point, I think sports, sports ball will move the needle for a lot of people. I agree. Just not for this person. Just not for this people. I will say that yesterday I watched the Rose Bowl in high dynamic range 4K. And did you start crying? It was incredible. But at one point I was like... Just the Dolby Vision? Yeah, the Dolby Vision, which is... Yeah. I mean, you should go look at it because it's incredible. I want to. But at one point I thought, and the screen was a 120 inch video screen. And at one point I thought to myself, wow, this is beautiful. I'm pretty sure I can see through those players' pants because they're wearing white pants and that's not something you can think about. Yeah. And I was like, we're going to have to rethink all of this. Yeah. And I know it's like that Sony, remember that Sony camcorder that came out, night vision? Yeah. That was like strong enough that it actually could like see through some light colored clothing. Yeah. Vlad's like, yes. I actually had several versions of that camera. They do actually have fragmentation in the NFO as well in terms of uniform design. Right, in the Fox 720, the uniform design? Yeah. So some of them, like the Steelers, they have those yellow pants and they're more... Let's just kind of move on. Yellow pants. The yellow pants. The yellow pants are more something. The yellow pants are more something. The pants is fear. The fear of the fear. It's just like a weird thing to be watching on television and to like think that, like... Yeah. Okay. So here's the deal with Intel. This is all happening right now. It's all happening. We have a live... I think we're streaming the video of the event. Well no, because we're... Well no, oh that's right, we're on. Oops. You know, it's been a long day. Well we just lost the control room. It's been a long... You've been a long day. What's happened? So you guys introduced a tiny little chip called Quark. Ross, I've got to tell you my drink is almost empty. Quark isn't brand new actually, are they rehashing it? Well it's... The name probably. It's a fifth the size of Atom, uses a tenth of the power. The Quark X1000. Oh it was introduced at IDF. I get it. Yeah. So Intel had Quark at IDF. Sorry, I'm in our story stream, things are crazy. And now they're putting it all kinds of things here at CES. Yeah. They got it right. They figured it out. Yeah. But that's Intel. So at CES they had this hybrid transforming laptop thing going on? Yeah, so Intel is always desperate to prove the things you can do with their chips. And here's the problem with them. They have better ideas than all of their manufacturing partners. That is true. Like every time. Intel's manufacturing partners are like, you had a good idea about a transformer. What if we added more stickers and hinges to it? Well, I mean yes and no. At the same time Intel's held two in one thing where they're trying to push every manufacturer to give a tablet that also converts to a laptop. Essentially Intel's played to try and get into the tablet space, which still dominates. You've got the iPad, you've got Android devices. Well, I think this thing. What's interesting here is that they're going, they lost mobile, right? I mean they've got Bay Trail. It's cool. Nobody's putting it anywhere. There's a Lenovo ThinkPad 8. That's great. That's coming. Yeah, we're just going to buy it. What's happening? What are we talking about right now? What? It's just we're in the weeds, man. No, no. They made a little processor. What happened to Jarvis? A second ago there was a wearable personal assistant named after an Iron Man robot. Yeah. A computer actually. AI. Ross, I don't know if I mentioned this, but is there any way I can get more vodka? I know you're not my waiter or anything, but did we hire you as a waiter? Oh no, hold on. Intel announced their Android Windows thing too. What? Intel's happening, man. Intel is hot right now. Listen, just stop watching this because frankly you're not going to get anything out of it. I mean it's just garbage. Watching? Go watch the Intel event. Read the live blog that we're doing right now. We've got people there working hard. No one's working hard in this room. I'm not. Look at this guy over here. He's taking a nap basically. Well, this is all like going down. You'd like to take a nap, wouldn't you? Do you feel tired? Are you tired at all? At all? I only started at like 6 a.m. with LG. Did you hear the way he said that? Oh, you went to LG? Did you hear the way he said that sarcastically? Let's start over. I only started at 6 a.m. Wait, so let's let Intel happen around us. I would love for that. You started this morning at LG. And Reed Hastings. This is probably the biggest news of the day. No, it's not. It kind of is. No. I mean you've already talked about it. The biggest news of the day was Michael Bay storming off stage during Samsung's event. I still haven't seen that. Actually today was like, there really weren't any great pieces of news. Well, except for this Jarvis situation. No, I think Michael Bay is like his own news. I think the Pebble Steel was a big, I mean, our entire trailer bought a Pebble Steel. Oh man, Groob's dissed that. Did you see that stuff? John Groober did not like the Pebble Steel. Yeah. Why? That's cool. He didn't like the logo on the front or something? He did not have a smart watch for another year. That's great for him. When Apple does their smart watch, they didn't make the Pebble Steel look like a Pebble Rock. It'll happen. He did the Toyota car. Yeah, the i-V. So that happened today. I was saying before we went on, the i-Road, I test drove this crazy three wheeled car, which I sincerely hope you guys have watched the video of, and if you haven't, you really should. It's like a commute. Oh, also for Europe and Asia, again, they're ahead of the curve. A commuter, we've got city bikes in New York. You know what they're going to do in Europe? You're going to be able to car share a Toyota, like leaning the i-Road. Well, it's a bad name, but this crazy Toyota. The i-Road is a terrible name. It's a terrible name. But in Europe and Asia, they're going to have car sharing of the i-Road. You can be able to grab this awesome, leaning electric vehicle and scoot around a city. We have city bikes. City bikes. They're just Citibank advertisements rolling through Times Square. You think these are not going to be sponsored by anyone? They're going to be sponsored by awesomeness. You have a drink for me? I'll take it. Things are getting real here. Yeah, they're getting real. Thank you. You're a wonderful man. You're beautiful. Here it is. Oh, here I am. I'm very confused about this photograph. So apparently there's a seat in the back. You put like a baby or something. Because what you want to do is whip around with a baby while you lean through corners. I'd be kind of like a Sopranos outfit in this episode. I'm like, am I going to go? I'm like, me and Big Pussy are going to go break somebody's kneecaps. That's his name on the show. I'm just saying, in the world's least tough car, Big Pussy would not be able to get in there. You couldn't even get one of him in there. How many wheels does it have? They were like, by the way, Toyota was like very specifically, they're like, this can fit two homo sapiens from Japan inside of it. Or maybe one American. What did you say? It's got three wheels. And it steers with the back wheel. And it leans into turns. And what's interesting is that the faster you're going, I'm sure there's a physics reason for this, but the faster you're going, the larger your turn radius is. So you can go really fast around turns and it won't tip. They're terrifying. You really lean. But you have to be doing a really wide turn. But also you can make crazy on the dime little pivots when you're going slower. It's so much fun. They said that Toyota said that I was the only journalist who actually put the pedal to the pedal. That's funny. Yeah. It was so much fun. Did we install a GoPro in there? Yes, we did. That's awesome. GoPros, by the way. GoPro snuck up and it just owns video production. Everybody uses GoPros. Yeah. Like you talk to anybody who's doing video and they're like, oh, throw GoPro in there. It's like just a thing now. GoPro just took over. Sony is desperately trying to compete. Okay. What's going on with the Jarvis? Is he performing any of any pulp songs? Things are happening at the Intel keynote. We're just having. What's happening? Well, so they made this tiny chip and now they're just like putting it in all kinds of prototypes. Are they putting it in wearables? Because they missed phones. Is it being put in any wearables? No. How many wearables will get the new Intel chips today? Wearable powered by Korg. Yeah. Okay. So wait. My Internet is down. Really? But you're on Ethernet. Yeah. Here you go. Here you go. 4K, really? You can't even get at the Verge, in the Verge CS studio, one of the most technologically advanced areas of the world. This is kind of insane. You can't get a consistent connection. Oh, here we go. Let's see what else is there. You're telling me I'm going to be able to watch Orange is the New Black in 4K in my house? You're high and drunk, my friend. Dreamworks is there. I'm just floating out here, Neil. You're giving me nothing. You're reading the Internet. This is literally, we're talking. They're printing a keychain at the Intel keynote. I mean, Vlad is falling asleep over here. I'm doing what I can. You're reading a live blog. You asked me what was going on. I just wanted a few details. Let's do this. Let's not read the Internet. Let's explore my experience of the day. So about LG. I really did. Just like Reed Hastings, I spent the day running around. Let's talk about LG. Yeah. I mean, LG is, it was interesting, but the disappointment with LG is that it basically showed us exactly what leaked with WebOS. Right. Well, we saw the press release last night that LG Korea just put out the press release for the WebOS TV, so we knew all the details of it. And so there were no, and Dieter actually had a great behind the scenes look at the thinking behind the interface. So it wasn't a big surprise today. Right. Did you see anything that was really, that really got your juices flowing? Yes. What was it? I mean, LG is pushing two things on the TV side, which is obviously the WebOS interface. It says that over half of 2014 TVs are going to have it. Yeah. It's a beautiful interface. I got to say. It's a smart TV. It is the most handsome interface that anybody has done. Have you held the remote in your hand? No. Yeah. You don't like the remote? You've got a remote problem. It's not good. What's the deal with it? It's, I mean, it's shaped like a, you know, the Wii joystick. Kind of shaped like that, but it's got a ball on it, like a track ball. It's just wide. And I think it uses a set of rheometer or something. Yeah. Can you do this with it or is it like you're just wheeling the guy? And it's a ginormous cursor that you have to poke around the place. Well, what's a better way to do it? Yeah. Well, it's an interface. You can jump around with it. No, I think about this every time we talk about TVs. You talk about the remote. What is that? That doesn't look bad. It's not good. I don't mind it. I did it hands on with it. I mean, they're getting better, but that's not good. You pair that with the VR pivot. Pivot VR. Is it Pivot VR? Yeah, the Elysium suit that Casey wore. Yeah. Anyway, go on. Yeah. Well, okay. That's happening. WebOS TV is happening. 2014, that's good. Very cohesive interface, too. Is it? It's cohesive. They have app standards. It's built into the device. Right, right. They have design guidelines, which I think are... I think design guidelines, when it comes to making whatever the next TV interface is, is what it is all about. The one thing I'll say that Apple has done the right job of, for better or worse, I don't think their interface is really very good, but they basically said, we're going to make your Netflix app. You're not going to code your own Netflix app. It's going to be within our guidelines for how it should function. That means that everything on the Apple TV works exactly the same. Right, right. That's the thing, having guidelines and having guidelines followed are two different things. That's true. Well, if you force it. If you don't let people make apps- LG is an Apple, right? Right. Yes. That is very true. That's the most true thing you've ever said. That's a little rough for them. The other thing that LG's pushing is the one or five inch curved ultra HD 4K TV, et cetera. There's no price. There's no release date. Well, so they all have curved ones this year, and then Sony made a triangle. By the way, it's a wedge, and I- It's a triangle. We changed that. I want you to know the headlight was shaped. Triangularly shaped. We had a conversation at the trailer. That headlight was changed. There were a lot of confused people in the trailer. Okay, the standout thing for me for emoji- People were like- It's a triangle. No, I know. Here's the thing. Everybody wants their TVs to look different. Everybody has flat screens out. Look at this one. Half of the companies are like, it's curved. Do you understand the curve? The curve of the TVs? Yes. Why? It's cinematic. Again, at that scale, it makes a difference. At 105 inches. Yeah. And it's 70 and 60 inches as well. And at that scale as well. Really? It does make a difference. It does. The thing that LG said- Only if you're sitting four feet from it. The thing that LG said- No, it's physically wrapped around you. But I'm saying, I understand the idea, but when you're 12 feet away and you're living in a minute looking at a 60 inch TV, it just looks like a misshapen television. No, it's still pretty big. I have a tooth in a person, I should say. It's still pretty big. But the thing that LG said- For 12 feet, really. Which was pretty much a lie, was that they don't do innovation for innovation's sake. And the device that they cited to say that was the G Flex phone. Yeah, right. The curved screen that makes zero sense. But here's the distinction. At six inches, that curve is completely pointless. And they put it in landscape mode and they said it gives you cinematic experience when you're holding it in front of your face at six inches. No, it doesn't. But at 65, 70 inches, 100 if you can ever afford the space to fit that somewhere? A 100 inch phone? It seems big to me. I'm talking about the TVs now. I'm just saying the curve at that scale and at that size, it makes a difference. Okay, I do get that. But I'm going to buy a 100 inch television. And a barn to fit it in. No, but yeah, right. Okay, but let's just pretend I can afford a 100 inch television and I have room for one. Yeah. Is there a dramatic of a difference between having a big ass 100 inch television and having a big ass 100 inch curved television? I can't say I'm an expert at that. What would you do if you had to choose one? What I would do is I would get the OLED. You would get the OLED 100 inch not curved? No, they don't have a 100 inch OLED. They have some 60 and 70 inch. Okay, fine. But I'm saying, but do you think the curve, if you push came to shove and you had to make a choice between a 65 inch curved and a 65 inch standard display, which would you choose? I wouldn't pay a surplus for the curve, but I'm going to go for that. I mean, the thing I would definitely say- These are not the words of a person who believes in curved TV. But the thing that stood out to me, and maybe that's just because I'm a sucker for OLEDs and this happens every year, is the curved OLED TV. And also the more important thing probably is the fact that last year we had two big trends for the future of TVs, which was OLEDs actually starting to ship, big screen OLED TVs and 4K. Whereas this year, what OG did was it combined the two. So now you're not really having to pick. It's not, do I want a 4K TV or do I want an OLED TV if I just want to really push the boat up? I can have both. Right. And then the curve, at least in looking at it for a couple of minutes, it's kind of like a bonus. The curve is just a new thing. It's just like dressing when you're selling. Some people prefer it, some people don't. No, I think that's wrong. I think it's like, I would say that the vast majority, 99% of people who eat salad like dressing. And you know what? Sometimes dressing is necessary to lubricate the salad. And that's a terrible salad. Well, that just happened. That's what happened on the internet. How would tomatoes? Just because you don't like dressing on your salads, he did say that, just because you prefer a nightshade vegetable instead of delicious, tangy dressing. Oh, tomatoes are gross. I like tomatoes. They're the worst. I like them. Anyhow, let's be serious. The point is a curved TV is not dressing. A curved TV is fake bacon, bacon bits. No, bacon bits are delicious. I'm sorry. Hold on. What is the thing that somebody puts on a salad that you absolutely don't need at all? Dressing. No, wrong. Croutons. No, wrong. Croutons are delicious. Croutons, there are very few things that go on a salad that people think they don't need. But here's- You have to think of one though. Something like a cilantro. Cilantro is the worst. I mean on a salad. You don't need it. What are you doing? You're just trying to dress up your salad because you want to seem fancy. That's not a mistake. That's curved TVs. Cilantro. But do you know why they're here? Wow, you really whipped up the cilantro image quickly. I got to say, very nice. But here's the thing. Go on. The reason they make them is because they're the hardest things for them to make. Samsung and LG are in a war of building hardware. The reason they announce basically the same things over and over again is because they pick the hardest things for them to make. They push the limits of their- You think this is just LG and Samsung fighting each other for manufacturing? Oh, without question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I think what they're like, here's the biggest flexible thing we can make. That's why they both made flexible phones and nobody else. I know. I think what it is is we've run out of... We can't copy Apple. We can't make the stuff any bigger. You don't make an 85 inch curved OLED because you've run out of ways to differentiate yourself from Apple. They're very difficult to make. You do it because, hey guys, we go to the Consumer Electronics Show every year and every year people want to have the oh my God moment. What are we going to do? Somebody's like, oh, you know, the R&D guys were playing around with curved televisions and they're like, yeah, that's great. 3D failed, 4K is not for another five to 10 years. Curved we can sell in a year. Yeah, but all the curved displays are out. To that point, to that point. There's no real justification for curved. I feel like a great deal of the reason why Samsung is so invested with AMOLED displays on smartphones and the way that it pushes brightness really high is exactly to make that great first impression when you walk into the store. That's kind of the feel that I get with Samsung now, Gene. It's exactly the thing that you were saying. We have a trade show coming up. We need to blow minds. Right. Right? We need to catch headlines. What are they going to do? We need exposure. What else would they have done? Without curve, what would they have done this year? They might have done something more sensible. It doesn't mean half the major manufacturers here aren't doing curved. It's only the two massive Korean OLED conglomerates are doing curved. I agree that you're doing it because- I think that is a component, there is that rivalry. That rivalry drives so much more of this. They're hard to make. Do you think Samsung is going to show the phone with a button on the back? No, I don't understand that. That's curved to me. That's like we put the button on the back. We made the screen curved. The button on the back is not like any company in the world- I'll give you, it's an engineering feat. That's what this is about for them. We're the best engineering company. We make the best panels. Flexible displays. But out here in the real world, where we're not part of the competing Korean companies, do you really think curved is bullshit? Is what you're saying. I think it's like making an 84 inch TV panel that kind of goes like this is the first or second step on the road to making a phone that goes like that. That's the actual thing they need to acknowledge. Why do we need to have a phone that wraps around your wrist? Because people decided that Apple's going to do a watch and they're like, we got to be- No, no, I meant like a huge display, like a thing that goes like that. I get it, but- That would be awesome. I'm not talking about Apple making a watch. This is all about manufacturing demand where there isn't any. No, no, no. I think this is about manufacturing, like full stop. They're learning how to make things. I think LG and Samsung and Apple and everybody else will ever die by the next new thing. What I'm saying, they can't make the next... This is like the same conversation we had about 4K. That won't happen unless they figure out how to make the parts. What these TVs are is them showing off to the industry that they're figuring out how to make the part. I think it's 25% they can make the part and 75% we need to show something- They're not selling it. To keep people talking about Samsung. They're not selling any of this. No, but that's okay. They go like Samsung is in... It's floating around. It's like, oh, Samsung has really impressive technology. That's a unity. That's the same thing, right? We need to show off so people will talk about it. You have to admit, you must admit there is a commerce aspect to this process. This is not pure innovation. This is not just people going like, hey, we're going to just spark the next generation. They have concept cars. Yes. They have concept cars that they never make. In 10 years, they make a version, some bad version of the thing that they showed off 10 years prior. Maybe economically for LG, it's equivalent to a concept car. If you say, I'll sell you this, but I'll make it really expensive. Obviously, you're only going to buy a dozen of them, and it's fine for them. It's true that car companies don't justify why they make concept cars. They just say, check out this awesome car we made. I think if that's the case, then that's great. These guys do actually try to justify- The $40,000 Samsung 4K TV last year was not a consumer product. They made it to put it out in the world. I get the halo. I get the whole idea of... I can't believe we're still talking about TVs. There's so much other stuff. You brought it here. I'm just... You were talking about LG and- We can move on. I just want to make- This is like, this is our eternal debate is things like 4K and curved TVs. I tell you what, I've got a great segue. We're moving right away from- We have to talk about this watch. We still haven't done it. The Pabble? Let me drop a nice segue. Pabble's first. Hold on. Go ahead. All right. Just very briefly, the point I was going to make is that LG and Samsung's motivation about how they want to push things is to make that big splash and to capture people's attention immediately. They're not really thinking about the long term of people using their device and then thinking, actually, this thing is really useful to me. I'm really enjoying it in my life. I'm going to come back to the same brand, and then building brand loyalty that way. This is the awesome segue. I feel like Pabble is doing exactly the opposite thing. They're looking at- We're segueing into Pabble. Yeah. You did it. We're segueing into Pabble. I spoke with their CEO, and the thing that he said, and he addressed also the Sony and Samsung competition, the Sony SmartWatch 2, the Samsung Galaxy Gear, and he said, we see them adding a lot of features that we just don't want to add. The standout quote for me was that people having to adapt to those devices. They having to adapt to those watches, whereas what he wants to do is the watch should adapt to you and to your lifestyle and be useful. That kind of thinking, to me, is the right way. It's the right way to do it long term. By the way- I'm so excited about this. I think this is going to be so great. Can I just say this video is out of control good. Our video team is... Look, we do this all the time with them, but seeing this, I'm just like, my God, it looks so good. It's so sexy. I don't know how you can look at this and think it looks anything but awesome. Here's a couple of things. I'll say this- Your logo is whatever, but I have lots of watches with logos. My watch, I'm wearing a watch right now that has the name of the manufacturer in the middle of the dial. That's me wearing that watch, by the way. That's normal. Do people buy Rolexes and complain that they have the Rolex logo? Well, the argument would be Pebbles, not Rolex. For this type of watch, Pebble might as well be Rolex. That's the fact. They're the top of the heat. I'll say this. When I first saw this, it was the first time, I think, ever that I thought, that is kind of a decent looking watch and I can see wearing that. I could see myself wearing that watch. I think your reaction was even more strongly positive. No, it was very positive. In fact, I said, when we talked about headlines for the story, the headline we ended up going with was something that- The visual reaction. Yeah, it was like the Pebble Steel could change your mind about smartwatches. It's because I was like, you know what? This might be changing my mind about smartwatches. It's a really... I mean, for what we know is a deeply functional device that actually does a lot of what it promises, what a lot of these watches promise. This looks really good. It's a handsome looking watch. It adds style to the substance of the original. Exactly. I'm not a big fan of metal bands, so that we have pictures of it with other kinds of bands and that makes it look really good, especially the black with the black band. I think the black on black metal band looks extremely good. That's actually a good point to mention. They do have a new magnetic charging connector, which is not great, but that's because of the original charging connector was molded to the shape of the original Pebble. The situation was they changed the shape, they had to change the connector. And it's still proprietary. So you can't use your own connector if you get a new one? No. I mean, there is no interplay between the original Pebble, which is still carrying on. Now it's the entry level device, a 149. The new one, worth mentioning, is 249. I don't know who would not get the steel. Yeah, I mean- And save up for a couple of weeks or something, and months, and get the steel because it's a much nicer looking device. I got to say, for the first time ever, I felt like I want to get this and wear it. I mean, literally our entire trailer just bought one at once. No, I know. I came in and everybody was like- And then they sold out. I think I just bought three because I kept trying to order. But it kind of looks like a Casio calculator watch. That's a great- That looks like a watch. This is awesome. That looks like a watch. And that's a point that Aaron Michakowski, the CEO, made that classical watch faces look so much better than the new steel. And they definitely do. That's true. I mean, that looks like a watch. And that's me wearing three of them. It's not. Yeah, that's very 90s of you. It's not as thick as the old one. It's a little thinner. The thickness of the watch itself, the watch body, yeah, it's a little bit thinner. It's heavier. It's almost, it's actually twice as heavy with the steel chain. Well, good watches, I mean, I'll say this. Yeah, my watch is heavy. Yeah, if you put on a decent watch, I was surprised when I first started getting into watches and I started trying on different. When you put on a real watch, they're heavy. Yeah, they're made of stuff. And if you're not used to wearing something on your wrist, that's probably light as hell. Yeah, very. But a real watch with a metal band. Well, when you put on a mechanical watch, the real watches are light. They're literally a sandwich of steel. But the distinction that matters here is something like the Sony SmartWatch 2, which actually costs as much as the steel. You put that on and because of its design, its weight feels really bulky and it just kind of, it drags down on your wrist. You know, Sony didn't even talk about the SmartWatch 2. They're not even there. They're not even there. They're not even wearing it. Sony made a Fitbit Flex just copy, like straight off like Samsung Fitbit Flex today. Maybe they figured it out. Like they announced, I will say the desperate. Just rip off. The desperate werewolf situation at the show is out of control. Like Sony was like. Werewolves are everywhere. We made a new app called LifeLog. You know the journal I've done one. LifeLog looks pretty nice, actually. But it's basically day one with a Fitbit, right? And then you look at their Fitbit thing and it's basically the Fitbit Flex. Yeah. Well, why, why, why, why come up with an idea? It's under glass. You can't even like look at it. It's obviously not real. Like it's just, they were like, we need LG. LG has a, what is their life band touch or something? Life touch band. Life band touch. Right. So LG has the life band touch. Sony has the life band G Flex. No, Sony has what's the Sony thing called? Core. The core with the smart band. Right. And the core is the little Fitbit. So, Asus did not have any fitness stuff. No wearables. No wearables. No wearables. Who else today? Samsung? I'm sure Samsung. They had something. Yeah. We should know. I'd like to be able to say that I know, but it's been a little bit of a blur. Yeah. It's been a long day. You know what's funny about CES? What's up? We get meta for a second. I mean, we had, we covered a lot of news today. We had some huge stories. We had some small stories. We haven't even talked about Valve. We haven't talked about Valve. We covered a lot of events. But the amount of things we have just not covered. The amount of things that we've seen like PR for them, we're like, yeah, that's not of interest to our readers. It's not of interest to us. And nobody's really asking us about it. Yeah. Nobody's like, hey, how come you didn't do this router or whatever? Like, it's crazy. By the way, this Intel dual OS thing is real and has been announced. What is? Intel is, they are partnering with companies to build computers that switch between Android and Windows with a push of a button. That's been, Asus announced that today. Yeah, right. But now it's like a thing. Like, Intel is called dual OS. I don't understand. What's the benefit? You can buy it, instead of getting a tablet and a Windows laptop, you get like a convertible. Because you don't like tiled interface. No, but basically what they're saying is like, you can get the Android tablet you were going to buy in the first place. And when you need to like get real work done, you switch into Windows and run Office. Is it RT? Windows 8. Windows 8. It's a full version. Like, Windows 8 Pro version or whatever. What do they call it? It's just called Windows 8? Oh, right, it's RT and 8. Yeah. At some point it was Windows 8 RT and Windows 8 Pro. Right? Am I crazy? Am I high? I think you're thinking of Windows Phone 7 Series Professional Edition. I'm thinking of, what I'm thinking of is the Surface Pro and the Surface RT. No, they were calling Windows RT. There was something. You're definitely thinking of the Surface Pro and the Surface RT. You know it doesn't matter. RT is a non-starter. No one's using it. You know what's weird? It's not a real OS. It's dead in five years. RT is out of commission. You're not going to get any argument in that one. It's never catching on. People don't care about it. No one's developing for it. No one's using it. Have we seen a single RT tablet here? No. Well, we... It's OS. ASUS? No, ASUS is Windows 8. Oh, it's Windows 8, right. RT is a dead product. They just need to accept it and everybody needs to move on. They want to turn that into some other thing. That's a different story, but no one's using it. Windows... It's like fetch. It's not going to happen. Stop trying to make it happen. You know, I used the Transformer book Duet today, which is a device in question. ASUS told me it's their proprietary technology, how they're doing the Duo OS thing with Android and Windows. Now Intel is saying it's our proprietary technology. That's really mad at whose technology it is. It works, right? You get a three, four second delay and then you switch right between the operating systems. But my final impression was exactly what you said, which is if you want an Android tablet, get an Android tablet. If you want a laptop, get a laptop. You combine the two and you compromise too much because this thing is 13.3 inches, whereas Android tablets struggle to use 10 inches. It's awful. You know, it's great. Anything over 7 inches for an Android tablet is why... The Nexus 7 is the perfect size for an Android tablet. It's exactly what you want. It just fills that gap. Yeah. And a 10 inch Android tablet is like, why do I have all this screen? Yeah. What's the point? Even with the iPad, I feel like with the bigger with the Air. I know you love it. Yeah, I really like it. But that's... But the iPad mini to me is like the sweet spot. Right. The iPad Air or whatever, the 8.9 inch... 9.7. I'm sorry, 9.7. Yeah. Is... It's like more than you need. What do you need it for? For magazines and comic books, maybe? Gigantic web browser. I mean, that's what I use it for. You know what's a great gigantic web browser? My laptop. Cool. Cool laptop in bed. What's wrong with a laptop in bed? You've never put the laptop... You've never brought the laptop into the bedroom? I've kind of like done... Yeah, that's great. You need to open more than like... You need to deal with like four tabs. The saving grace for this product from Asus is that... What was... It's its price. Okay, so it's 599 with... Do we have a clip of... Do we have any clips of the Asus... Transformer book. I know, I would just like to see the keynote because there was some strong... Johnny Share was all over... Johnny Share was like screaming. He's the best. He's screaming prices. I felt abused. Yeah. I felt like somebody was like... I mean, it was cool because it was like a little stick. Like there was a big pause and he would just scream 199 really loud and everyone was like, yeah. It was like, why am I excited about this normal price? It was powerful. It's not a normal price. I would say Virgin on rude. It's not a normal price though. I mean... No, no, the price points were crazy. The range of devices that they introduced, the new Zen phones, it's like $99. We have 4-inch. They're not off contract, are they? 149. I mean, it sounded like it was off contract. They weren't saying 99 with a... A $99 decent... No, wait. Are you sure it's without contract? Because the higher end phones are like 249. It's like... I'm not going to say it's a game changer, but the fact that Asus is touting great prices for decent hardware and they're affordable, if it is off contract, that's a pretty big deal. I mean, it shows that what Google has been trying to do with the Nexus devices is having some penetration. I think people are starting... You might want to Google that. Nope. I can constantly say I've never Googled using any... Stock penetration. But if they're actually... That's a whole different... That's a different... No, what would it be? It would be off contract penetration. Let's do a search for that. But if they were actually on contract, Johnny Shee would have had no reason to do all the yelling. Right. It's obvious that he's coming to the US and coming in force. And the force is... So let me ask you a question. Do Padfones... Do Padfone Xs on AT&T? I kind of don't understand that. Hey, people have been... Everybody in America has been asking, when is this coming to the US? Well, I just don't... I mean... Hey, when is this coming to the US? I like having my phone and my tablet be similar. Do we have the sequence where they have the pop-ups from the map? No. No? We go ahead and say no. Nothing from you guys? You what? They're going to look. All right. We're actually going to have to wrap up at some point in the future. We're actually over our time limit. All right. What haven't we covered? There's so much stuff. Do we just wrap up right this second? What just happened? Wow. Really? We just turned it off. We have not talked to Valve at all. Valve. Like at all. Steam machines. Valve Steam machines. So the Valve press conference, as far as I can tell, was insane and weird. I saw a note... It was like a scene from Eyes Wide Shut. I saw a note from Addie where she literally was like, hey, I'm here. It's really crowded. I'm just sort of on the floor. And I was like, God, I hope you're okay. And then it was mostly hangout. It was apparently like eight minutes long. And then there was just kind of a party with lots and lots of weird homebrew PCs. Well, here's the thing that really drives me crazy about this Valve Steam Machine push. There were literally... They're like, look, we have 13 partners, including Alienware. And they're literally the DIY PC that I built three months ago. Yeah, but this gigabyte one... Like it's the actual case with a sticker on it or something that says Steam Machine. Yeah, can we just go through the gallery, John? It's the lowest effort. Okay, that's real. That's a real thing. That was nice. But go through the gallery. That's the iBUYPOWER device. Can we have it in the gallery? Look at this. This is insane. You can buy that right now from... You can go and do it. You can buy that case right now. This is just a case. This is like a mini ITX or something. Yeah. Okay, let's see what else we have. And the next one is like totally drag and out. This is just a case. What is happening here? Keep going. That's just a PC case. The next one's nice. The iBUYPOWER one is cool. This is it. I built this. I own a Steam Machine. I already have it exclusive. Verge exclusive. I've played the Steam Machine and it's a PC. That particular Toast size design, that's the whole small form factor movement, which I was a big part of. I mean, this is my... You were a big part of it. Big part of it. I didn't have to... He was the leader of the European faction. Okay, okay. This is a hard drive enclosure. Like it just is. That is a case. That was nice. It's got a little thing. Okay, I don't know what this is, but it's ugly. These are rejected Xbox designs. It's super duper ugly. No, but I mean... Okay, that's a case. Go back one. You can buy that on New Egg for $149 with power supply. This is like a leftover Stormtrooper concept box. Or they would call it the Stormcase. To a great extent, I really expected this exact thing to happen where everybody takes their PC's. The last picture, the back of this one is particularly... This is just like low... Yeah. This is what... This is what no effort looks like. This is what phoning it in looks like. This is what not a real brand does to show off hardware. This is not hardware. This is a case. How is that a bad thing? What? How is that such a terrible thing? I'll tell you how it's a terrible thing. As far as the consumer goes, it's good. Don't try to pass off a homebrew PC as a device, because it's not. It's a collection of components inside of a case. But doesn't that depend on the software? Everything is a collection of components. Yeah, but there's a difference between... I designed casing, cooling, power supply, arrangement of parts, and we have plans. We sent them off to a factory somewhere. We had a custom thing designed and produced, and it came back. Let's put it this way. Look at the Pebble. The Pebble is not just a breadboard on your wrist. It's a very small integrated device. We're really talking about PCs. I'm sorry, but if you're... Look at your laptop. Yes, if Steam Machines... But that's not a collection of... Any great laptop at this show is not a collection of PC components inside of a case. I take the point, and I totally agree with Josh. My anticipation of CES was every PC manufacturer is going to come here, rebrand their boxes as Steam Machines, and say, we're done. Yeah. I mean, let's put it this way. There's nothing that was shown there that you can't build right now. Maybe Valve will say, that's the strength of the Steam Machine. But what it actually is is totally unpalatable to a consumer. Most people who play games aren't... They don't want a PC in their living room. They want something that is... They want a game console. They want a game console. And these aren't designed as game consoles. You're also kind of missing the point, though. Most people who play games aren't necessarily... These are from the guys who release an OS that you couldn't even install, basically. But the thing is... I'm just disappointed. The vast majority of people on Steam are not necessarily the absolute mainstream gamers. I understand they're not. They're not really going up to console games. But they're already building. Then why even bother calling these things Steam Machines? They're already building PCs. They're already doing DIY PCs. Why not just say, hey, take your DIY PC, dual boot it, here's our Linux distro, install it. Isn't the importance of the Steam Machine the fact that they have a hardware base? No. It's because for people who are building their own PCs, the hardware base is the best thing they can afford. Right. And so... No, but what I'm saying is the hardware base is for Valve, for Valve and for Steam and for the games that are available there. So first off, it's Linux and there's no games for it. Second, it moves at a steady pace. We know there's always going to be a certain motherboard, a certain CPU, a certain selection of RAM that is at a certain price point, that is at a price point, and that's ever decreasing for the older stuff as the new stuff moves in. It's like a very clear sliding scale. There's no confusion about that. What bothers me is that it's so lazy. Valve could do anything they wanted to do. They have this controller they shut off, which is totally weird, totally revolutionary, a real custom piece of gaming hardware. And as a companion to that, and as a companion to this OS they claim they're building, this whole new revolution in gaming they want to make, what they deliver is, hey, we had some guy put together a DIY PC, he slapped a Valve sticker on it and we're calling it a Steam machine. And I think that just says that this isn't, the investment in this project is minimal at best. That's what it feels to me. It feels like a side project for Valve. And also no Half-Life 3, so I don't really know what's going on. Even as a side project, that doesn't mean it's bad. I think you kind of offended, you kind of disappointed, because Valve has set very high expectations. Steam OS is completely bunk right now. It's not even... Valve, the company of Half-Life 3, it's ready when it's done. Right. Right? And nothing about the Steam box is done. This is like it's not even close to done and it's ready. I mean Steam OS is a mess. Yeah. You will admit. It's in beta. It's like not even installable. We tried to have Evan install it. He just was like... He tried to put together a Steam machine to their spec and install Steam OS and Evan is the biggest nerd. And it was a total fail. Complete fail. These Steam machines are basically just rebranded, I buy power, DIY PCs and they couldn't even put together a real press conference. Well that's just... Gabe Newell came out and like wrapped into a micro 10 minutes and they were like, here's some ugly DIY PCs. All right. Well, I'm kind of giving up the fight here. You're going to get with it. Well, you weren't really invested in the fight. He has one. He's got a killer gaming rig at home. He doesn't need a Steam machine. The Steam machine exists. It's called a Windows PC with a really good graphics card. What actually makes me really angry is OS X and the gaming situation. You know what's 10. Okay. OS X. Well, I used to call it OS X too until I got broke with it. Okay. I'm obviously not cool enough. I'll just keep typing instead of saying... It's not cool enough. Oh my God, this main gear one. What is this? Okay, go on. But here's the thing. Dota 2, just before CES, I developed a terrible addiction to it. Terrible affliction. But playing it on the Mac, on a 27 inch iMac, is a nightmare. It's just horrible. Macs have always been behind the curving. But here's the thing that happens. That's the irony of the iPhone. Here's the thing that happens. I go into bootcamp, stick Windows 7 on there, open up Steam, get Dota 2. It's beautiful. Well, it turns out, here's the thing. It turns out that when you... Care about video games. No, when your OS has been designed from day one, when all of those games and all of the drivers and everything and all of the graphics cards have been designed to function with that OS for gaming, it turns out that it'll actually produce really great results. I built this PC for 700 bucks and I play Arkham Origins on it or whatever and it looks ridiculous. It did not cost that much money to build and I spent very little time trying to get it to be good and it's nuts. My Mac could never do what it does. Even a decent Mac could never do what it does. But I have the thing, I plug in, my Xbox 360 controller works on it. No weirdness. Although, literally every time I boot the thing up, there's like 67 Windows updates. It's out of control. We should do a race and boot up a PS3 and a gaming PC and see which one is ready to play a game first. It would be the PS3. I mean, that's... But that is actually the thing. Big picture mode is sometimes really awesome, but most of the time it's buggy garbage. I've got it hooked up in my living room to my TV and it is not the seamless experience. When you open up, when you turn on the Xbox One or the PS4, I know admittedly the PS4 needed some updates, but some major updates, but it's a pretty seamless experience. It's custom designed software. It's made to... The hardware is built to a certain spec. The software is designed to function perfectly on that hardware. That's what makes a console. That's what makes a consumer product. Well, look, I'm sure Valve's vision for the Steam Box is exactly that. Well, they're not showing... That's what I'm saying, they're not showing that. Their vision is... What they're showing is like, hey, we don't really give a shit. Yeah, we made a weird Linux distro for homebrew PCs. Right. We made Ubuntu, but it's not even as good because you can't install it. It's like in alpha. We have to give it a little bit of... Okay, fine, but then don't... That part's not done. I mean, Addy didn't have to sit on the ground. Also nobody's making games for Linux, unfortunately. It's just not happening. And they need people to build games for Linux for Steam machines to work. They're not making Arkham Origins for Linux, are they? Poor Vlad. Well, don't ask. Do I need to answer that? I mean, have they made it for Linux? It's okay. Vlad, look, we're gonna get you a Steam Box. They have it from Mac. We're gonna give you the nice one. OS X. Okay. Okay, I think we gotta wrap up. Yeah, it's done. Well, that's the Vergecast for CES Monday. Day Monday. Day zero, day Monday. We'll be back tomorrow. Well, first off, we have... Is it first tomorrow morning? Yeah, it's nine. I got it all here. 9 a.m. first. First. There's a lot going on tomorrow. Posted by myself and Ross Miller. And then I'm interviewing Sony's new... Ross Miller. Sony Electronics' new president, Mike Fasulo. I'm interviewing him here at 11. Live? Live. Live interview? His first interview on camera. With the new Sony president? No. And literally, the first time he's going to the press is with us tomorrow. How can you say no to that? And then, obviously, it's sooner than you think. It's sooner than you think. It's sooner than you think. It's sooner than you think. It's sooner than you think. It's sooner than you think. And then, obviously, it's going to be the same as today. You can hit play in the morning and things will happen all day long. And then at 6.30 p.m., we're going to try to do this again. Yeah, sure. I'm going to drink more tomorrow. I'm sick and I'm losing my voice, so things could get real bad real fast tomorrow. Tomorrow the Virg Cast will just be me alone drinking whiskey into a can. Tomorrow the Virg Cast is just going to be... It's going to be just liquified pools that used to be human beings. I've been trying to get Thomas Ricker to say I'm too old for this shit all day long because he keeps almost saying it. I prefer that he did the edited for TBS version, which is I'm getting too old for this spit. We'll see what we can do. I think on that note... Also, I want Ricker on the show tomorrow. That's what Ricker challenged, public challenge, to Thomas Ricker to be on the show. All right, that's the Virg Cast for CES day one and or zero and or Monday. We'll be back tomorrow with a lot more, clearly, as Neil I just mentioned. And I wish you and your family the very best, even though they're going to be crushed to death by a DIY PC. | [
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"text": " It's I can actually, this year I can like prove it to you."
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"text": " Mary had this conversation on the clock show, but I think 4k really widespread for adoption is like a decade away."
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"text": " Oh really?"
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"text": " And I think one of the biggest stories of the show, you are smoking very good weed."
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"text": " No, I think one of the biggest stories of the show is the fact that Netflix is more poised than ever to completely dominate like how we make and distribute."
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"text": " Well, there's no question that Netflix is in a killer position."
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"text": " Like that's cool. Shoot in 4k, make it available on Netflix in 4k."
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"text": " There are no TVs and there's no bandwidth."
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"text": " No, no. I mean, this is super nerdy, but all of these companies this year, the TVs have hardware decoders for H.265, which is the next one."
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"text": " Is it 4k?"
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"text": " And I was like, well, I have a 3D TV."
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"text": " Because Netflix is committed to that. But you're talking about the new buyers starting in 2014 and we're talking about probably like..."
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"text": " No, the networks are still doing shows in 720. But here's what I'll say."
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"text": " You don't have to redo the infrastructure. You just have to get a new TV in the home."
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"text": " You have to get a new TV and you have to get new gear to shoot on."
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"text": " Yeah, but that's like that stuff."
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"text": " But the biggest networks in America are shooting on 720. In 720."
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"text": " Right. And so the next jump they're going to make. They never upgrade to 1080."
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"text": " Sure, they won't go to 1080. They'll go to 4k."
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"text": " like I pay for 50, but a lot of times it's 10."
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"text": " Yeah, if you live in Korea."
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"text": " Well, I was going to say it in an evidence, but yeah."
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"text": " Those places are weird."
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"text": " Neil, I think Japan's weird."
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"text": " Yes, yes."
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"text": " Let's rebuild all the infrastructure in Japan."
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"text": " It's like, let's rebuild all the infrastructure in one state in America."
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"text": " That's why they're swiping their phones to get on the subway and taking bullet trains"
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"text": " And honestly, the jump between last year, where everybody was saying, we have 4K TVs,"
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"text": " we'll let you know about pricing and availability later, and now where they're saying we have"
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"text": " whole lines of 4K TVs..."
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"text": " Guys, I need to interrupt everything."
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"text": " Yes?"
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"text": " Can we zoom in on that photo?"
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"text": " So you guys introduced a tiny little chip called Quark."
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"text": " Quark isn't brand new actually, are they rehashing it?"
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"text": " So Intel had Quark at IDF."
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"text": " Sorry, I'm in our story stream, things are crazy."
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"text": " No, no."
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"text": " What happened to Jarvis?"
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"text": " A second ago there was a wearable personal assistant named after an Iron Man robot."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " A computer actually."
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"text": " Ross, I don't know if I mentioned this, but is there any way I can get more vodka?"
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"text": " I know you're not my waiter or anything, but did we hire you as a waiter?"
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"text": " Oh no, hold on."
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"text": " Intel announced their Android Windows thing too."
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"text": " Listen, just stop watching this because frankly you're not going to get anything out of it."
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"text": " I mean it's just garbage."
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"text": " Look at this guy over here."
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"text": " Well, this is all like going down."
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"text": " At all?"
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"text": " I only started at like 6 a.m. with LG."
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"text": " Did you hear the way he said that?"
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"text": " Wait, so let's let Intel happen around us."
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"text": " I would love for that."
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"text": " The biggest news of the day was Michael Bay storming off stage during Samsung's event."
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"text": " I still haven't seen that."
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"text": " No, I think Michael Bay is like his own news."
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"text": " I think the Pebble Steel was a big, I mean, our entire trailer bought a Pebble Steel."
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"text": " Oh man, Groob's dissed that."
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"text": " Did you see that stuff?"
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"text": " John Groober did not like the Pebble Steel."
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"text": " Why?"
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"text": " That's cool."
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"text": " You have a drink for me?"
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"text": " You're a wonderful man."
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"text": " Wearable powered by Korg."
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"text": " You don't like the remote?"
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"text": " And I think it uses a set of rheometer or something."
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"text": " Can you do this with it or is it like you're just wheeling the guy?"
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"text": " And it's a ginormous cursor that you have to poke around the place."
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"text": " Well, what's a better way to do it?"
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"text": " What is that?"
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"text": " Is it Pivot VR?"
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"text": " Yeah, the Elysium suit that Casey wore."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " Well, okay."
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"text": " That means that everything on the Apple TV works exactly the same."
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"text": " Right, right."
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"text": " LG is an Apple, right?"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " That's a little rough for them."
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"text": " Okay, the standout thing for me for emoji-"
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"text": " Everybody wants their TVs to look different."
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"text": " Look at this one."
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"text": " Half of the companies are like, it's curved."
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " Why?"
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"text": " It's cinematic."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And it's 70 and 60 inches as well."
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " It does make a difference."
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"text": " For 12 feet, really."
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"text": " Which was pretty much a lie, was that they don't do innovation for innovation's sake."
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"text": " And the device that they cited to say that was the G Flex phone."
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"text": " Yeah, right."
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"text": " The curved screen that makes zero sense."
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"text": " At six inches, that curve is completely pointless."
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"text": " No, but yeah, right."
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"text": " Is there a dramatic of a difference between having a big ass 100 inch television and having"
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"text": " I can't say I'm an expert at that."
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"text": " What would you do if you had to choose one?"
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"text": " What I would do is I would get the OLED."
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"text": " No, they don't have a 100 inch OLED."
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"text": " They have some 60 and 70 inch."
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"text": " Okay, fine."
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"text": " I wouldn't pay a surplus for the curve, but I'm going to go for that."
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"text": " It's not, do I want a 4K TV or do I want an OLED TV if I just want to really push the"
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"text": " I can have both."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " And then the curve, at least in looking at it for a couple of minutes, it's kind of like"
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"text": " The curve is just a new thing."
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"text": " It's just like dressing when you're selling."
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"text": " Some people prefer it, some people don't."
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"text": " No, I think that's wrong."
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"text": " I think it's like, I would say that the vast majority, 99% of people who eat salad like"
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"text": " And you know what?"
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"text": " Sometimes dressing is necessary to lubricate the salad."
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"text": " How would tomatoes?"
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"text": " Just because you don't like dressing on your salads, he did say that, just because you"
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"text": " prefer a nightshade vegetable instead of delicious, tangy dressing."
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"text": " Oh, tomatoes are gross."
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"text": " I like tomatoes."
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"text": " They're the worst."
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"text": " I like them."
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"text": " Anyhow, let's be serious."
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"text": " The point is a curved TV is not dressing."
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"text": " A curved TV is fake bacon, bacon bits."
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"text": " No, bacon bits are delicious."
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"text": " I'm sorry."
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"text": " Hold on."
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"text": " What is the thing that somebody puts on a salad that you absolutely don't need at all?"
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"text": " Dressing."
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"text": " No, wrong."
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"text": " Croutons."
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"text": " No, wrong."
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"text": " Croutons are delicious."
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"text": " Croutons, there are very few things that go on a salad that people think they don't need."
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"text": " But here's- You have to think of one though."
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"text": " Something like a cilantro."
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"text": " Cilantro is the worst."
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"text": " I mean on a salad."
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"text": " You don't need it."
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"text": " What are you doing?"
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"text": " You're just trying to dress up your salad because you want to seem fancy."
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"text": " That's not a mistake."
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"text": " That's curved TVs."
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"text": " Cilantro."
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"text": " But do you know why they're here?"
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"text": " Wow, you really whipped up the cilantro image quickly."
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"text": " I got to say, very nice."
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"text": " But here's the thing."
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"text": " Go on."
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"text": " The reason they make them is because they're the hardest things for them to make."
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"text": " The reason they announce basically the same things over and over again is because they"
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"text": " You think this is just LG and Samsung fighting each other for manufacturing?"
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"text": " Oh, without question."
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"text": " I know."
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"text": " We can't make the stuff any bigger."
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"text": " They're very difficult to make."
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"text": " You do it because, hey guys, we go to the Consumer Electronics Show every year and every"
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"text": " year people want to have the oh my God moment."
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"text": " What are we going to do?"
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"text": " Somebody's like, oh, you know, the R&D guys were playing around with curved televisions"
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"text": " and they're like, yeah, that's great."
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"text": " 3D failed, 4K is not for another five to 10 years."
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"text": " Curved we can sell in a year."
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"text": " Yeah, but all the curved displays are out."
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"text": " To that point, to that point."
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"text": " that great first impression when you walk into the store."
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"text": " That's kind of the feel that I get with Samsung now, Gene."
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"text": " It's exactly the thing that you were saying."
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"text": " We have a trade show coming up."
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"text": " We need to blow minds."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Right?"
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"text": " We need to catch headlines."
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"text": " What are they going to do?"
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"text": " We need exposure."
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"text": " What else would they have done?"
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"text": " Without curve, what would they have done this year?"
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"text": " They might have done something more sensible."
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"text": " It doesn't mean half the major manufacturers here aren't doing curved."
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"text": " I think that is a component, there is that rivalry."
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"text": " They're hard to make."
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"text": " Do you think Samsung is going to show the phone with a button on the back?"
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"text": " No, I don't understand that."
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"text": " That's curved to me."
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"text": " That's like we put the button on the back."
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"text": " The button on the back is not like any company in the world-"
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"text": " I'll give you, it's an engineering feat."
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"text": " That's what this is about for them."
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"text": " We're the best engineering company."
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"text": " We make the best panels."
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"text": " Flexible displays."
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"text": " But out here in the real world, where we're not part of the competing Korean companies,"
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"text": " Is what you're saying."
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"text": " I think it's like making an 84 inch TV panel that kind of goes like this is the first or"
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"text": " That's the actual thing they need to acknowledge."
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"text": " Why do we need to have a phone that wraps around your wrist?"
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"text": " Because people decided that Apple's going to do a watch and they're like, we got to"
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"text": " We need to show off so people will talk about it."
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"text": " You brought it here."
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"text": " The Pabble?"
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"text": " Yeah, very."
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"text": " Sony made a Fitbit Flex just copy, like straight off like Samsung Fitbit Flex today."
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"text": " The desperate werewolf situation at the show is out of control."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " We should know."
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"text": " It's been a long day."
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"text": " You know what's funny about CES?"
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"text": " What's up?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Nobody's like, hey, how come you didn't do this router or whatever?"
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"text": " Yeah, right."
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"text": " Am I crazy?"
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"text": " You get a three, four second delay and then you switch right between the operating systems."
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"text": " What's the point?"
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"text": " Cool laptop in bed."
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"text": " You need to open more than like..."
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"text": " I mean, it sounded like it was off contract."
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"text": " Are you sure it's without contract?"
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"text": " Because the higher end phones are like 249."
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"text": " It's like..."
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"text": " I'm not going to say it's a game changer, but the fact that Asus is touting great prices"
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"text": " for decent hardware and they're affordable, if it is off contract, that's a pretty big"
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"text": " Nope."
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"text": " I can constantly say I've never Googled using any..."
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{
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"text": " Stock penetration."
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"text": " No, what would it be?"
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"text": " It would be off contract penetration."
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"text": " Let's do a search for that."
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"text": " But if they were actually on contract, Johnny Shee would have had no reason to do all the"
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"text": " Right."
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{
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"text": " It's obvious that he's coming to the US and coming in force."
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"text": " And the force is..."
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"text": " So let me ask you a question."
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"start": 3264.56,
"end": 3265.56,
"text": " Do Padfones..."
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"text": " Do Padfone Xs on AT&T?"
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"text": " I kind of don't understand that."
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"text": " Everybody in America has been asking, when is this coming to the US?"
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"text": " Hey, when is this coming to the US?"
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{
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"text": " I like having my phone and my tablet be similar."
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{
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"text": " Do we have the sequence where they have the pop-ups from the map?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " No?"
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{
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"text": " We go ahead and say no."
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"text": " Nothing from you guys?"
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{
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"text": " You what?"
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{
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"text": " They're going to look."
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"text": " All right."
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"start": 3295.96,
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"text": " What haven't we covered?"
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"text": " There's so much stuff."
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"text": " What just happened?"
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"text": " Wow."
},
{
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"text": " Really?"
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{
"start": 3303.48,
"end": 3304.48,
"text": " We just turned it off."
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"text": " We have not talked to Valve at all."
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"text": " Like at all."
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"text": " Steam machines."
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"text": " Valve Steam machines."
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"text": " And then there was just kind of a party with lots and lots of weird homebrew PCs."
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"text": " Well, here's the thing that really drives me crazy about this Valve Steam Machine push."
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"text": " There were literally..."
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"text": " They're like, look, we have 13 partners, including Alienware."
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"text": " And they're literally the DIY PC that I built three months ago."
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{
"start": 3344.24,
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"text": " Yeah, but this gigabyte one..."
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"text": " Like it's the actual case with a sticker on it or something that says Steam Machine."
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{
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"text": " Yeah, can we just go through the gallery, John?"
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"text": " It's the lowest effort."
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{
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{
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"text": " That was nice."
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"text": " But go through the gallery."
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"text": " That's the iBUYPOWER device."
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"start": 3359.68,
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"text": " Can we have it in the gallery?"
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{
"start": 3360.68,
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"text": " Look at this."
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"text": " This is insane."
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"text": " You can buy that case right now."
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"text": " This is just a case."
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"end": 3367.68,
"text": " This is like a mini ITX or something."
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{
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"text": " Yeah."
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{
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"text": " Okay, let's see what else we have."
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{
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"text": " And the next one is like totally drag and out."
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"text": " This is just a case."
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{
"start": 3374.6,
"end": 3375.6,
"text": " What is happening here?"
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"text": " Keep going."
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"text": " That's just a PC case."
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"text": " This is it."
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"text": " I built this."
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"text": " I didn't have to..."
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"text": " He was the leader of the European faction."
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"text": " Okay, okay."
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"text": " This is a hard drive enclosure."
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"text": " Like it just is."
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"text": " That is a case."
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"text": " Okay, I don't know what this is, but it's ugly."
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"text": " It's super duper ugly."
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"text": " No, but I mean..."
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"text": " Okay, that's a case."
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"text": " Go back one."
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"text": " You can buy that on New Egg for $149 with power supply."
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"text": " This is like a leftover Stormtrooper concept box."
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"text": " Or they would call it the Stormcase."
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"text": " To a great extent, I really expected this exact thing to happen where everybody takes"
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"text": " their PC's."
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"text": " The last picture, the back of this one is particularly..."
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"text": " This is just like low..."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " This is what..."
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"text": " This is not hardware."
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"end": 3449.3599999999997,
"text": " This is a case."
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{
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"text": " How is that a bad thing?"
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"text": " What?"
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"text": " How is that such a terrible thing?"
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"text": " I'll tell you how it's a terrible thing."
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"text": " As far as the consumer goes, it's good."
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"text": " Don't try to pass off a homebrew PC as a device, because it's not."
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"text": " It's a collection of components inside of a case."
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"text": " But doesn't that depend on the software?"
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"text": " Everything is a collection of components."
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"text": " Yeah, but there's a difference between..."
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"text": " I designed casing, cooling, power supply, arrangement of parts, and we have plans."
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"text": " We sent them off to a factory somewhere."
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"text": " We had a custom thing designed and produced, and it came back."
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"text": " Let's put it this way."
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"text": " Look at the Pebble."
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"text": " It's a very small integrated device."
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"text": " Look at your laptop."
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"text": " Yes, if Steam Machines..."
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"text": " But that's not a collection of..."
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"text": " Any great laptop at this show is not a collection of PC components inside of a case."
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"text": " I mean, let's put it this way."
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"text": " There's nothing that was shown there that you can't build right now."
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"text": " Maybe Valve will say, that's the strength of the Steam Machine."
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"text": " But what it actually is is totally unpalatable to a consumer."
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"text": " Most people who play games aren't..."
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"text": " They don't want a PC in their living room."
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"text": " You're also kind of missing the point, though."
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"text": " Most people who play games aren't necessarily..."
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"text": " These are from the guys who release an OS that you couldn't even install, basically."
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"text": " The vast majority of people on Steam are not necessarily the absolute mainstream gamers."
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"text": " I understand they're not."
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"text": " They're not really going up to console games."
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"text": " But they're already building."
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"text": " Then why even bother calling these things Steam Machines?"
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"text": " They're already building PCs."
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"text": " Why not just say, hey, take your DIY PC, dual boot it, here's our Linux distro, install"
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"text": " it."
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"text": " Isn't the importance of the Steam Machine the fact that they have a hardware base?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " It's because for people who are building their own PCs, the hardware base is the best thing"
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"text": " they can afford."
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"text": " Right."
},
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"start": 3579.36,
"end": 3580.36,
"text": " And so..."
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{
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"text": " No, but what I'm saying is the hardware base is for Valve, for Valve and for Steam and"
},
{
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"text": " for the games that are available there."
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"text": " So first off, it's Linux and there's no games for it."
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"text": " Second, it moves at a steady pace."
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"text": " We know there's always going to be a certain motherboard, a certain CPU, a certain selection"
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"text": " of RAM that is at a certain price point, that is at a price point, and that's ever decreasing"
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"text": " for the older stuff as the new stuff moves in."
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"text": " It's like a very clear sliding scale."
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"text": " There's no confusion about that."
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"text": " What bothers me is that it's so lazy."
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"text": " Right?"
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"text": " What is this?"
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"text": " But here's the thing."
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"text": " Dota 2, just before CES, I developed a terrible addiction to it."
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"text": " Poor Vlad."
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"text": " Well, that's the Vergecast for CES Monday."
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The highly controversial T-Mobile event. Yes. And we'll talk about that later. This is though, the show floors have been open for one day. Most of the press conferences really are done. It's now the time where we get to look at things. Last year when we were at this point, it's where we found the Pebbles, where we found the Oculus Rift. The real big stories that we really enjoy, the smaller companies that actually had an impact throughout the year. This is the time where we'll start finding them. Yeah. I think once you get through that, the kind of haze of Samsung and LG and all these companies with their curved whatevers, you do start to... You see the little guys are sort of out there and the noise has died down. You can actually go find them. Right. And I think speaking of little guys... Speaking of little guys. We have something here in the studio, which I'm pretty excited about. I'm very excited about this. We've got the new Pebble Steel. New Pebble Steel. We've got a couple options here. You have the whole box package. I actually have... This is cool. You want to check that out? We got the retail packaging. I don't know if anybody can see this. Probably not. Should I just throw this over to you? Actually... You can get an overhead shot. I can, yes. I do want to unbox this though, live on the show. This is the package right here. Once you open that lid, give it back to me. You got it. All right, now hand it back to me. That is beautiful. Give that to me. Anyhow, so this is the silver one. Now I'm more of a fan of the black. So Pebble last year was kind of a big story of the show, and we were very excited. I'm going to break this. This is broken. I'm not good at unboxing things. It's been a long time. You've been unboxing as a professional for many years now. But there's some other stuff in here, which I'm not going to. It's a charging cable. I have to say, I've said it a couple of times now. Last year, Pebble was a big story for us because it's this Kickstarter thing that became a real product, and it's a real product that actually works. I've never been a fan of the design, the plastic design. This one is definitely the one you've got here. What do you have, the black version? The black and black. I think the all metal with the metal face and metal strap is actually a pretty handsome look. I could see myself wearing this as an actual watch, which is a big change for me. Because there's not another smart watch that I've looked at and said, yeah, I could wear that. Right, and we've seen a number of smart watches this week, especially. Metawatch, which brought in Frank Nuovo, the R2 designer. Metawatch, which I've eviscerated on several broadcasts. I have seen that a few times. The weird thing about Metawatch is that here's a company that brings in this R2 designer, and it's supposed to be like, oh my god, they're going to create something amazing, and they create this, which I think is, it looks like it's from 1996. It's completely dated. I will say the staff is somewhat divided because I think it is a very classic looking design. Not this kind of classic, not refined, not luxurious, but it is something that stands out more than, say, a Fitbit Flex or a Fuelband, which is what we're seeing by and large here at the show. What are the health tracking features of the Metawatch? Must be like Fit. Well, actually, I don't know. But I'm assuming there are. I don't think there are any. I don't know. But, Merriam, are there any health tracking features of the Fitbit Flex? Or, not the Fitbit Flex, the Metawatch. Metawatch. You know? You don't know. Right, exactly. Merriam is an old friend of ours who's now a Pavel PR. Gone to the dark side. Switch sides. But, you know, I've got to say, I'm looking at this, and I'm liking it. Really? Surprisingly. You know, half the staff has already bought one. No, I know. People went a little bit crazy. So, you actually got it. You know how some of the new functions work on this thing. Why don't we run through some of the features of the Pebble. I clearly have not had enough sleep. You've had more sleep this year than I'd say. No, maybe, but I feel completely insane right now. Yeah. And if we're speaking of the Pebble, most of our staff is critically sick right now. Yes. I'm recovering. I've actually been sick for the last three days. So, but that has nothing to do with this delightful Pebble deal. Let's go ahead. So, obviously we've got the old Pebble here and the new Pebbles. What Pebbles does is it lets you run through a few of the software demos. Let's get these out of the way. I'm going to put this box away. So, the big thing here, obviously we have all the same watch faces that we had before. You go with this, you get notification menus much closer. Not only that, you can actually look through the old notifications you had. So, once you've had them, they don't immediately go away. They go all the way down here and we start getting into some of the apps that are available. There's DriveStyle, which is for Mercedes-Benz. We don't have a car here we can use that with, but no, that's a one. Yeah, that's a shame. Pebble Cam. It's a shame we don't have a Mercedes here. I know. Pebble Cam is kind of an interesting one. Let me go ahead and real quick. Oh, yeah, Pebble Cam. This is a new thing. Is this a third-party app? This is a third-party app. Small little company, actually. And what you do is it connects to your phone camera. I'll make sure it's working right now. Seems to be good to go. And then it becomes your viewfinder for your camera, which is actually really nice. Like a very slow updating viewfinder. Wait. You need to run the app and you get up. Yeah. Sorry, let's get this in. Let's connect it. We've only done this one time. Yeah, I have to apologize for that. It's going to take us a couple of seconds to get this working. That looks like it's working. It looks like it's working? Yeah. So, if we face it to you right now. Here's the middle button on the watch takes pictures. Great. And so we can actually use the watch right here. Sorry, I'm double-handing this real quick. There. And we've got a beautiful picture. Okay, but I have to ask. Is this really more convenient than just taking a picture with a smartphone? No. It doesn't feel like it is. I will say that it's cool. It's a very impressive tech demo. No, it's cool, but it doesn't actually feel like it's an improvement on pulling your phone out of your pocket and just snapping a picture. No, but let's say you're putting this like, this is the kind of Sony NX lens argument we had before where it's like, we look at this where we can put the lens somewhere here. Yeah. I think what's interesting about that is it shows the potential for when you've got an open system that you can develop for and it's a watch. You start to think about what are the different things you might do with it. And that's, you know, it's a weird idea. It might not be the perfect idea. But it's cool to see people trying to do new things. This is the surprising thing about Pebbles. They're very early on. They have an open API. They're very, so far, very accepting and warm of people who develop for it. And this app store is obviously a testament to that. Yeah. And for a small company to kind of come out and kind of define what the smartwatch industry is going to be in these halcyon days, like before Samsung really got a hold of it, before Apple obviously has done anything with it. Yeah. It's really impressive to say the least. What I wonder is how Pebble will fare, I mean, if Apple does the iWatch or whatever. Right. I mean, the Galaxy Gear doesn't seem to have made much of an impact. I mean, clearly there's some people that are buying it. It doesn't seem like it's a widespread adoption or anything. You know, they're very different devices in a lot of ways. But I am interested to know how something like the Pebble or the Metawatch or any of these smaller companies, how that's going to fare when you get into, you know, somebody like Apple who really knows how to do hardware and really knows how to do interfaces. Right. You know, Samsung is like struggling a little bit, I think, with the Galaxy Gear. They wanted to be first. I don't know if they're the best. So they're definitely not best. So, you know, it'll be interesting to see how the market reacts to that and how these watches change. I mean, I will say in the span of a year, going from the plastic version of this to the metal version, you know, it's like a huge leap in design. It's a huge leap in style. Right. Interface-wise, it's still very similar, though. Right. I mean, there's not a lot of new functionality. I think they nailed the simplicity part of this, and this is a watch that, you know, you're going to want to have for at least a couple years. Right. Like, it just looks that good. It's very casual. Well, but I wonder with a smart watch, you know, in a year, the idea, it seems to be like in a year's time, there's going to be a new one. It's going to be a better one. So, you know, that's the thing. I mean, this is the thing. It's very true. But these are expensive. They're not as wildly expensive as a Rolex, you know. They're not $5,000. But the one you have right there, how much is that one? I'd rather not say. It's a couple million. It was my grandfather's watch. Oh, wow. I didn't pay for it. So that's the important thing. Very nice. That's the important thing to remember is that I didn't pay for this. But the point is, nice watches are expensive. These are expensive for, most people would not spend $250 on a watch. I mean, the majority of watches, like you go buy a $50 watch or something. I have a bunch of Seiko's that I love that were like $80. Right. But then it's like, hey, next year there's an upgrade, and the watch has a bigger face, it's faster, it's whatever. I don't know how much we can upgrade every single thing that we buy, especially jewelry. You don't normally do that. You buy a watch and you keep it for 10 years or 50 years. I mean, historically, watches are the kinds of things that you keep in a family, that you keep for a really long time. And so I think what will be interesting to see with stuff like the Pebble is what's the lifespan of this watch. Right. And I think, you know, it's obviously this is so early with smart watches that we don't know, like, are they going to hit a plateau technologically where people are really happy with what they have. Right. Like, it's going to be obviously very early on. This is double the RAM. They are bringing the App Store to the old Pebble, so that does expand its lifespan. I think we're in the very early days of these devices. But I've got to say, I think Pebble got a lot of stuff right, and I'm relatively excited about what they're doing. I do want to say, sorry, go on. No, no, what were you going to say? I was going to say, like, we did talk about the Pebble cam. The one thing I want to show off before that is some of the other apps that they're talking about, which are more practical real quick. Okay. We have the ones like Foursquare. You can check in without having to, like, go anywhere. Do you still use Foursquare? Are you a Foursquare user? I started again. Really? Because I was using it for recommendations. Yeah, I don't know. I just can't get in the habit of checking in places. I feel like, I don't know, I just can't think of it. When I'm at places, I never think of it. And then I'm like, oh, I should have checked in there. It just doesn't happen. Right. To me, it's the airport, it's the gym, and then it's like looking for places to eat. And I don't want to auto check in. Like, I don't want to have anything where I'm auto checking in because that would just be a nightmare beyond description. Exactly. Or well within the realm of just being described. Either way. All right. So Foursquare, what else? Foursquare and then Yelp, of course, recommendations. Now that, I think, can be very useful. And the thing here, if you shake it a little bit, it'll actually give you a nearby recommendation. So Sushi Samba is apparently a good place around here. Did you say Sushi Samba? Yes. There's a Sushi Samba in Las Vegas. It's.9 miles away, and here's the phone number. That makes sense. Yeah. Let's all give them a call right now. Right. And we can get the reviews from there. There are currently several hundred people calling Sushi Samba. All in the local Vegas area, in fact. This second, yeah. Yeah. All right. What else? Anything else? Those are the big ones right now. ESPN. That one only shows like the days, scores right now. So everything looks kind of like zero, zero. That's great. So those are, that's sports scores? Sports scores. Sports ball. Okay. But you can choose your favorite sports. What other kind of scores might you show? Video game scores, I guess. If you have a, I mean that could be something if you are big into e-sports. Paul Miller, you know, he would love that. We could see Paul Miller's scores? You could check out his Dota, his Starcraft. Yeah. All right. What else? What's that? Those are the big ones right now. Was that a watch face? That's a watch face. This is, again, Miriam, our old friend. It's a Domo watch face. It comes with some of the standard watch faces, but also we have a couple of new ones that you can always download. This is probably the nicest one we've got right here, the classic look. That's very cool. Can I see the one before that? Yeah. No, no, the other way. Let's go here. Oh, that is awesome. That is awesome. I mean, I wouldn't use that face, but it's cool if the face exists. Right. Basically. All right. So I think, you know, that's a little look at the Pebble. We actually have a more in-depth feature on this. We have an interview with the CEO and all sorts of hands-on photos and stuff. You can check that out on the site. But very, very, very cool to see it in person and get a chance to play with it. And this is going on sale in a month, but you order it now. Yeah, so this is on sale now on Pebble's website, and it's shipping January 28th. They're like basically sold out now. Right. And so they're shipping, I think, in February is what it's telling people. Right. But late January, if you have the old Pebble, the App Store should be launching around then. It must feel amazing, by the way, if you're Pebble. Yes. And you're like, yeah, we wanted to make a smart watch. We started the Kickstarter project. And then a year later, you introduce a new model, and you're selling out like the day it goes on sale. Right. You know, that's pretty incredible. It's a pretty incredible story, and I think pretty incredible example of how much technology has changed. I mean, I remember a few years ago talking about hardware startups, and everybody was like, it's so hard to do a hardware startup. It's almost impossible. And you saw a lot of people fail. And now you're starting to see people succeed. No, let's just say, and this is only in the span of 12 months. Pebble was a story from last CES. Actually, I think the Wednesday of last CES, when we really got a time to look at it after this whole Kickstarter thing happened with them. And in the span of 12 months, they've really kind of changed how we talk about these small companies. Right. No, it's pretty incredible. All right. So up next, there is an event happening. It's one of the last events. There's an event happening today. Jean Lagier. Yes, the T-Mobile CEO. I mean, I think that's how his name is pronounced. I don't know for a fact. I say Lagier. We have some people say Ledger here. Yeah. Well, I'm saying Lagier. You're saying Lagier. From T-Mobile, who is a wild maniac. Rather audacious. Completely insane. Actually, one of the big stories from CES this year is that he went to an AT&T McLemore party. Right. Which, by the way, McLemore said it right. Or so I'm told. I don't know if that's actually the right pronunciation. It's not McLemore? It's apparently not McLemore. It's apparently McLemore. Really? I don't know unless I'm being trolled by somebody really hard. I think that somebody would be Laura. Which is possible now that I think about it. So, at any rate, either McLemore or McLemore was doing a show here at CES. It was an AT&T show. It was an AT&T show. Jean Lagier went to it and was promptly ejected by AT&T. Yes, kindly escorted out. By AT&T security. Which was great fodder for a start, of course. Sorry, hold on. There's something weird going on with my hair. I just have to fix this. Of course. Okay. It's really driving me crazy. It wouldn't be a broadcast with me if I didn't. There, I'm a much happier man. We can bring a mic here if you want to test it too. Anyhow, so Lagier shows up. He's like, I just want to jam to McLemore or McLemore, whoever he is. And then Ralph De La Vega kicked him out. Personally? Personally. Personally threw him to the ground. These CEOs are rough. Threw him out and to the ground. So, John Lagier is like, that's another story that happened just this year. I think March was the first big speech that we saw. I think Dan Siefer, myself, our director, John went. Yeah. John Lagier is like a new guy on the scene. Yes. He's not been around for a long time. But he is something that we just can't help but talk about now. He's made a real impact. For better or for worse. I mean, a lot of people think this shtick is old. I actually still like it. I still think. You enjoy it. I mean, how often do you see a CEO like this? And you're hearing people like Intel try to be like that. Right. Try to be a little more open. I think it's better than like a lot of the things we see. He is kind of refreshing. Yes. You know, because he's not pulling punches. Right. Or at least he seems like he's not pulling punches. So we actually have a video compilation of Lagier's greatest hits. Yes. So take a look at this. Holy sht. I don't have wireless industry experience. There's not a goddamn person in the world besides a wireless industry person that would understand why the hell this mess works this way. This is the biggest crock of sht I've ever heard in my life. Everybody's blogging. Holy crap. I can't believe he just said that. Oh, he said sht. That's how I lost the family pool. I bet he'd only swear five times. Look up. I feel like I'm the teacher. Hey, look at me. I don't want to hear a single one of you tell me after I announce this next thing. So what are you going to do if they respond? You can't do the next to this because you hosed chapter one on algebra. Get ready for another profanity laden tirade on AT&T. I can't resist. It's not the G rated version. It's like, hey, kids, is it better for your network to be crap or is it better to have a good LTE high speed network in New York? And then this is the one that comes up with the great answer. I'm going to explain how stupid we all are but not make us feel bad. Holy crap. What happened to my phone? Cut the crap on the prepaid, postpaid. We can do it just like... A guy like you. Hey, Billy, what's better, bigger or smaller? I mean, come on. I hope I'm not coming across as angry here. If the way you want to respond to this tactic is to say, no, there's a contract on the device. It's not really good. Go for it. It's bullshit. Hi, I'm AT&T and my customers hate me. What's keeping them up at night is us. Big Macklemore fan. I've already told you about the spaceship and the aliens coming in. Please stop the bullshit. You know how I spend my times tweeting, Skyping, blogging, posting, Googling, FaceTiming. Go. Frankly, you're just pissed because the little girl sitting next to you has a better phone than you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, if you're typing, I didn't say we're going completely into the prepaid business. Watch out, Boost. So we're going to make you pay your bill later in a very complicated way with a contract so we can take the shit out of your pockets for two years. It's so beautiful for me because this is just a broken industry with a bunch of arrogant people that don't know how to tell it like it is. I call them, oh shit moments. Oh shit is really an abbreviation. Not necessarily because your phone fell in the toilet. It's short for, oh shit, I'm tied into an effing contract and I can't get out for two years. And I'm going to hold that toilet ridden phone to my head for the next two years. Frankly, they don't have the balls to say it either to the manufacturers or to the customers. You are now, you are the first broadcaster on television to say balls right there. So we're a pair. By the way, my daughter is here today. You young bloggers, after the speech today, if you find yourself hitting on an attractive young girl whose tag says ledger, you're dead. I mean, we can track you down with these cell phones. Don't let them kid you. I mean, like I have to say, maybe it's an act, but it makes me want to be his customer. I feel like like just sounds first off, he doesn't sound insane. I mean, a lot of this stuff he's saying is right. And they have actually changed T-Mobile plans to be somewhat less restrictive and crappy. It's not like what you would expect after hearing that. It's not like this huge C change. Maybe today will be the huge C change. We don't know. But he is really likable and really funny. He's like the FX network of CEOs. He doesn't mind swearing a lot. He's saying the same thing in a lot of ways, but he's just bringing it in much more blunt. Yes, and frankly, it's just refreshing to see somebody who is so rehearsed trying to work through their script. Right. You know, this guy's just kind of he's just riffing and it works. And like what the weird thing is, if you see people's reaction to it, you know, in kind of the broad market sense, people are like, I like I know of the CEO's existence and I like him, which is something you basically don't hear anywhere. Right. You know, I mean, nobody's talking about how much they like Mark Zuckerberg. No, no. I mean, Elon Musk, people love him. But again, it's another audacious man. Flamboyant, very flamboyant, audacious character. Right. So, you know, it's pretty incredible. So John Legere is, as you can see, loves social media, loves Instagram. There's the two things. Like the press conference John Legere, everyone loves. People love seeing those speeches. That's never been a thing. Twitter in this day and age, of course, is a huge deal. Very active on Twitter. And he cannot stop tweeting. We have some John Legere tweets here. So this is the one right before he got kicked out of the AT&T party. I said this last night on the Vergecast, but I think we should be concerned about the fact that he's doing the bunny ears. That to me is problematic here, I think, in this day and age. Yeah. And this is what his reaction to it. What happens in Vegas will be on the Internet in seconds. This is the AT&T ad. John Legere, especially when you're kicking out the competition from your party. Right, AT&T? I mean, there are a few things you learn from John Legere reading his tweets. The first thing is he really, really does hate AT&T specifically. AT&T, he hates more than anything. All right, what else do we have here? This is him just going to AT&T. He's in a mall. He just went to a mall in New Jersey. He took a picture of an empty AT&T store and tweeted it. That's great. Just the biggest troll. What else? For the Breaking Bad finale. Yeah. He's suggesting AT&T for burner phones. Yes. I don't know what is this. He's just hitting me like a cool jacket. He loves looking at us, so he does a couple selfies. Here's one. Here's him talking about his turkey, changing the phone deals again. Trying to bribe a turkey for the first time. Changing the wireless industry was easier than being the chef. Yeah. I mean, I guess. It's a little bit. I mean, he's using. This and this is a sign of his hashtag obsession. He does a lot of very, very bizarre things. Hashtag covergirl Katie. Is that even a real hashtag or did John Legere invent that? I'm not sure. I think he's like, let's start this trend. I think so. All right. What else do we have here? We've got. Oh, yes. He also is a big fan of the Batman. Yeah, Batman. He's like obsessed with Batman. He fashions himself as like the Batman of the care of the mobile carriers. But it gets really weird. There's another hashtag example. Hashtag spinning, hashtag power hour. What does spinning mean? That's like the soul cycle stuff. Oh, he's spinning. Yeah, he's like soul. He's on the spinning class. I've learned so much about John Legere in the last 24 hours. What else do we have here? This is where the Batman obsession gets a little bit weird. Yeah. This is the Batman. I feel like at some point DC is going to take action. You must have. This is his office. He's got Batman logos. It's also like a bright pink, which is like, you know, Batman. Magenta Batman. Batman, you know, at times Batman's costume gets weird. A little weird. But typically not like hot pink or magenta. No. That's like when you're searching out criminals in the night and attacking them and beating them into a lifeless pulp. Right. It feels like magenta might be the wrong color. I'm not saying it's effeminate. I'm saying it's just really bright. Not to mention like it's... You know, it's just an extremely bright color. Like if you're sneaking around, magenta's probably not going to be the tone you're going for. Not to mention his hatred of AT&T. He's not going to actually beat up Ralph de la Vega. No, he might. He might. I mean, let's put it this way. If there was a story today, if there was a story today, John Legere punches Ralph de la Vega in the face. Right. It's not like we'd be like, what? I can't believe that happened. We'd be like, yeah, that was the logical conclusion of what was going on. Like, early morning we fire Ralph de la Vega like hanging from a light pole. Yeah, strange. Yeah, with a sign for the police. Yes, exactly. That's what's going to happen. Are there any more tweets? We've got, unfortunately, a few more. This is his own t-shirt now. He has the matches of Batman. Now, this is heavy. This is tweets. Okay. Always hashtag magnets. Yes. Okay. Wait. Yeah, that's good stuff. What's the next one? And then here we go. The full transformation is the last one. Him dressed up as Batman at T-Mobile. With a T-Mobile shirt on. Yes. I get it. He's like avenging the death of fairness in wireless contracts. I guess. Right? That makes sense. His family has a few. Anyhow, so clearly the man is a very colorful character and always entertaining. Very entertaining. Regardless of whether you agree with him or not, always entertaining. What's going on behind me? I'm just hanging out. It's just, yeah. Cool. Do you think he made this background himself? I bet he actually used T-Mobile money to do that. I feel like he's like, I'm going to spend several hours Photoshopping. Oh, you think he did it personally? Yeah, yeah, no, personally. So, we have the T-Mobile event. What time does it happen? It's at 12.30 today. 12.30 today. We'll be streaming it live. We're going to be live streaming the T-Mobile event. I'm just trying to figure out what camera I'm on. We're live streaming the T-Mobile event. John Legere is sure to do something completely outrageous and we will capture it. So, we'll be live blogging it, live streaming it. And that's the only event for today. Right. Now, it's just we're going to hit the show floor. Now, we're just going to go. You're going to be seeing all kinds of crazy news and reports. Our guys are out doing weird stuff at the moment. You're going to be seeing lots more. They've only been beaten. They've been tased, electrocuted. All by John Legere. All by John Legere. While he was being a vigilante. But, so there's going to be a lot more news today. A lot more CES news. We have a lot of stuff to do. And for the rest of the week, actually, there's much more coming from the T-Mobile event. Much more coming from the Verge. So, stay tuned. And then later on tonight, we'll of course have the Verge cast after hours. Last night was one for the books. Probably, honestly, I have to say, one of the best ones to watch. I don't know if that's true, but I'll accept it. If you like Yahoo, if you like trolling Yahoo and you love where Sony's going, I think it was a great one to watch. And alcohol, if you love alcohol. If you love alcohol. And I think that's it for first. That is it for tonight. I don't think we have anything else to talk about. We've got to hit the show floor and find it. At the moment, we really do. So, that's it for us. We'll be back tomorrow with more first. And until then, have a wonderful, wonderful day. | [
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"text": " But I'm assuming there are. I don't think there are any."
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " But, Merriam, are there any health tracking features of the Fitbit Flex?"
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"text": " Or, not the Fitbit Flex, the Metawatch."
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"text": " Metawatch."
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"text": " You know? You don't know."
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"text": " Right, exactly."
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"text": " Merriam is an old friend of ours who's now a Pavel PR."
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"text": " Gone to the dark side."
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"text": " Switch sides."
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"text": " But, you know, I've got to say, I'm looking at this, and I'm liking it."
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " Surprisingly."
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"text": " You know, half the staff has already bought one."
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"text": " No, I know. People went a little bit crazy."
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"text": " So, you actually got it. You know how some of the new functions work on this thing."
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"text": " Why don't we run through some of the features of the Pebble."
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"text": " I clearly have not had enough sleep."
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"text": " You've had more sleep this year than I'd say."
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"text": " No, maybe, but I feel completely insane right now."
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"text": " Yeah. And if we're speaking of the Pebble, most of our staff is critically sick right now."
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"text": " Yes. I'm recovering. I've actually been sick for the last three days."
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"text": " So, but that has nothing to do with this delightful Pebble deal."
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"text": " Let's go ahead. So, obviously we've got the old Pebble here and the new Pebbles."
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"text": " What Pebbles does is it lets you run through a few of the software demos."
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"text": " Let's get these out of the way."
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"text": " I'm going to put this box away."
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"text": " So, the big thing here, obviously we have all the same watch faces that we had before."
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"text": " You go with this, you get notification menus much closer."
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"text": " Not only that, you can actually look through the old notifications you had."
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"text": " So, once you've had them, they don't immediately go away."
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"text": " They go all the way down here and we start getting into some of the apps that are available."
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"text": " There's DriveStyle, which is for Mercedes-Benz."
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"text": " We don't have a car here we can use that with, but no, that's a one."
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"text": " Yeah, that's a shame."
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"text": " Pebble Cam."
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"text": " It's a shame we don't have a Mercedes here."
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"text": " I know. Pebble Cam is kind of an interesting one. Let me go ahead and real quick."
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"text": " Oh, yeah, Pebble Cam. This is a new thing. Is this a third-party app?"
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"text": " This is a third-party app. Small little company, actually."
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"text": " And what you do is it connects to your phone camera. I'll make sure it's working right now."
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"text": " Seems to be good to go. And then it becomes your viewfinder for your camera, which is actually really nice."
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"text": " Like a very slow updating viewfinder."
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"text": " Wait."
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"text": " You need to run the app and you get up."
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"text": " Yeah. Sorry, let's get this in. Let's connect it."
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"text": " We've only done this one time."
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"text": " Yeah, I have to apologize for that. It's going to take us a couple of seconds to get this working."
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"text": " That looks like it's working."
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"text": " It looks like it's working?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " So, if we face it to you right now."
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"text": " Here's the middle button on the watch takes pictures."
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"text": " Great. And so we can actually use the watch right here."
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"text": " Sorry, I'm double-handing this real quick."
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"text": " There. And we've got a beautiful picture."
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"text": " Okay, but I have to ask. Is this really more convenient than just taking a picture with a smartphone?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " It doesn't feel like it is."
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"text": " I will say that it's cool."
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"text": " No, it's cool, but it doesn't actually feel like it's an improvement on pulling your phone out of your pocket and just snapping a picture."
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"text": " Yeah. I think what's interesting about that is it shows the potential for when you've got an open system that you can develop for and it's a watch."
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"text": " You start to think about what are the different things you might do with it."
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"text": " And that's, you know, it's a weird idea. It might not be the perfect idea."
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"text": " This is the surprising thing about Pebbles. They're very early on. They have an open API."
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"text": " They're very, so far, very accepting and warm of people who develop for it."
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"text": " And this app store is obviously a testament to that."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And for a small company to kind of come out and kind of define what the smartwatch industry is going to be in these halcyon days, like before Samsung really got a hold of it, before Apple obviously has done anything with it."
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"text": " It's really impressive to say the least."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " I mean, the Galaxy Gear doesn't seem to have made much of an impact."
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"text": " I mean, clearly there's some people that are buying it."
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"text": " It doesn't seem like it's a widespread adoption or anything."
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"text": " You know, they're very different devices in a lot of ways."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " You know, Samsung is like struggling a little bit, I think, with the Galaxy Gear."
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"text": " They wanted to be first."
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"text": " I mean, I will say in the span of a year, going from the plastic version of this to the metal version, you know, it's like a huge leap in design."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Interface-wise, it's still very similar, though."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " I mean, there's not a lot of new functionality."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Like, it just looks that good."
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"text": " It's very casual."
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"text": " But these are expensive."
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"text": " They're not as wildly expensive as a Rolex, you know."
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"text": " They're not $5,000."
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"text": " But the one you have right there, how much is that one?"
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"text": " I'd rather not say."
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"text": " It's a couple million."
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"text": " Oh, wow."
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"text": " I didn't pay for it."
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"text": " So that's the important thing."
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"text": " Very nice."
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"text": " That's the important thing to remember is that I didn't pay for this."
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"text": " But the point is, nice watches are expensive."
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"text": " These are expensive for, most people would not spend $250 on a watch."
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"text": " I mean, the majority of watches, like you go buy a $50 watch or something."
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"text": " I have a bunch of Seiko's that I love that were like $80."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " But then it's like, hey, next year there's an upgrade, and the watch has a bigger face, it's faster, it's whatever."
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"text": " I don't know how much we can upgrade every single thing that we buy, especially jewelry."
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"text": " You don't normally do that."
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"text": " You buy a watch and you keep it for 10 years or 50 years."
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"text": " I mean, historically, watches are the kinds of things that you keep in a family, that you keep for a really long time."
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"text": " Right. And I think, you know, it's obviously this is so early with smart watches that we don't know, like,"
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"text": " are they going to hit a plateau technologically where people are really happy with what they have."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Like, it's going to be obviously very early on."
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"text": " This is double the RAM."
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"text": " They are bringing the App Store to the old Pebble, so that does expand its lifespan."
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"text": " I think we're in the very early days of these devices."
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"text": " But I've got to say, I think Pebble got a lot of stuff right, and I'm relatively excited about what they're doing."
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"text": " I do want to say, sorry, go on."
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"text": " No, no, what were you going to say?"
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"text": " I was going to say, like, we did talk about the Pebble cam."
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"text": " The one thing I want to show off before that is some of the other apps that they're talking about,"
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"text": " which are more practical real quick."
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"text": " Okay."
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"start": 640.44,
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"text": " We have the ones like Foursquare."
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"text": " You can check in without having to, like, go anywhere."
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"text": " Do you still use Foursquare?"
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"text": " Are you a Foursquare user?"
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"start": 646.44,
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"text": " I started again."
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " Because I was using it for recommendations."
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"start": 649.44,
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"text": " Yeah, I don't know."
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"text": " I just can't get in the habit of checking in places."
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"text": " I feel like, I don't know, I just can't think of it."
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"text": " When I'm at places, I never think of it."
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"text": " And then I'm like, oh, I should have checked in there."
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"text": " It just doesn't happen."
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"start": 662.44,
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " To me, it's the airport, it's the gym, and then it's like looking for places to eat."
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"text": " And I don't want to auto check in."
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"start": 667.44,
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"text": " Like, I don't want to have anything where I'm auto checking in because that would just be a nightmare beyond description."
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"text": " Exactly."
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"text": " Or well within the realm of just being described."
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"text": " Either way."
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"text": " All right."
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"text": " So Foursquare, what else?"
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"text": " Foursquare and then Yelp, of course, recommendations."
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"start": 678.44,
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"text": " Now that, I think, can be very useful."
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"text": " And the thing here, if you shake it a little bit, it'll actually give you a nearby recommendation."
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"text": " So Sushi Samba is apparently a good place around here."
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"text": " Did you say Sushi Samba?"
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"start": 690.44,
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " There's a Sushi Samba in Las Vegas."
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"start": 693.44,
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"text": " It's.9 miles away, and here's the phone number."
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"text": " That makes sense."
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"start": 696.44,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"start": 697.44,
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"text": " Let's all give them a call right now."
},
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"start": 698.44,
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"text": " Right."
},
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"start": 699.44,
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"text": " And we can get the reviews from there."
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"text": " There are currently several hundred people calling Sushi Samba."
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"text": " All in the local Vegas area, in fact."
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"start": 705.44,
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"text": " This second, yeah."
},
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"start": 706.44,
"end": 707.44,
"text": " Yeah."
},
{
"start": 707.44,
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"text": " All right."
},
{
"start": 708.44,
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"text": " What else?"
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"start": 709.44,
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"text": " Anything else?"
},
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"start": 710.44,
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"text": " Those are the big ones right now."
},
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"start": 711.44,
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"text": " ESPN."
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"start": 712.44,
"end": 713.44,
"text": " That one only shows like the days, scores right now."
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{
"start": 713.44,
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"text": " So everything looks kind of like zero, zero."
},
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"start": 714.44,
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"text": " That's great."
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"start": 715.44,
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"text": " So those are, that's sports scores?"
},
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"start": 716.44,
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"text": " Sports scores."
},
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"start": 717.44,
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"text": " Sports ball."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Paul Miller, you know, he would love that."
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"text": " What else?"
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"text": " What's that?"
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"text": " Was that a watch face?"
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"text": " So I think, you know, that's a little look at the Pebble."
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"text": " We actually have a more in-depth feature on this."
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"text": " Yeah, so this is on sale now on Pebble's website, and it's shipping January 28th."
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"text": " And you're like, yeah, we wanted to make a smart watch."
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"text": " Which, by the way, McLemore said it right."
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"text": " Which was great fodder for a start, of course."
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"text": " Sorry, hold on."
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"text": " There's something weird going on with my hair."
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"text": " It wouldn't be a broadcast with me if I didn't."
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"text": " There, I'm a much happier man."
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"text": " We can bring a mic here if you want to test it too."
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"text": " And you're hearing people like Intel try to be like that."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Try to be a little more open."
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"text": " You know, because he's not pulling punches."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " So take a look at this."
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"text": " Holy sht."
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"text": " I don't have wireless industry experience."
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"text": " That's how I lost the family pool."
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"text": " I bet he'd only swear five times."
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"text": " I feel like I'm the teacher."
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"text": " Hey, look at me."
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"text": " I don't want to hear a single one of you tell me after I announce this next thing."
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"text": " So what are you going to do if they respond?"
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"text": " You can't do the next to this because you hosed chapter one on algebra."
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"text": " Get ready for another profanity laden tirade on AT&T."
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"text": " I can't resist."
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"text": " It's not the G rated version."
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"text": " And then this is the one that comes up with the great answer."
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"text": " I'm going to explain how stupid we all are but not make us feel bad."
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"text": " What happened to my phone?"
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"text": " Cut the crap on the prepaid, postpaid."
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"text": " We can do it just like..."
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"text": " A guy like you."
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"text": " Hey, Billy, what's better, bigger or smaller?"
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"text": " I mean, come on."
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"text": " I hope I'm not coming across as angry here."
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"text": " If the way you want to respond to this tactic is to say, no, there's a contract on the device."
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"text": " It's not really good."
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"text": " Go for it."
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"text": " It's bullshit."
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"text": " Hi, I'm AT&T and my customers hate me."
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"text": " What's keeping them up at night is us."
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"text": " Big Macklemore fan."
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"text": " I've already told you about the spaceship and the aliens coming in."
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"text": " Please stop the bullshit."
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"text": " You know how I spend my times tweeting, Skyping, blogging, posting, Googling, FaceTiming."
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"text": " Go."
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"text": " Frankly, you're just pissed because the little girl sitting next to you has a better phone than you."
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"text": " Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah."
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"text": " Okay, if you're typing, I didn't say we're going completely into the prepaid business."
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"text": " Watch out, Boost."
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"text": " So we're going to make you pay your bill later in a very complicated way with a contract so we can take the shit out of your pockets for two years."
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"text": " It's so beautiful for me because this is just a broken industry with a bunch of arrogant people that don't know how to tell it like it is."
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"text": " I call them, oh shit moments."
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"text": " Oh shit is really an abbreviation."
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"text": " Not necessarily because your phone fell in the toilet."
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"text": " It's short for, oh shit, I'm tied into an effing contract and I can't get out for two years."
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"text": " And I'm going to hold that toilet ridden phone to my head for the next two years."
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"text": " Frankly, they don't have the balls to say it either to the manufacturers or to the customers."
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"text": " I said this last night on the Vergecast, but I think we should be concerned about the fact that he's doing the bunny ears."
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"text": " Right, AT&T?"
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"text": " All right, what else do we have here?"
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"text": " That's great."
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"text": " What else?"
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"text": " Here's him talking about his turkey, changing the phone deals again."
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"text": " Changing the wireless industry was easier than being the chef."
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"text": " I mean, I guess."
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"text": " Hashtag covergirl Katie."
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"text": " What else do we have here?"
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"text": " Oh, yes."
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"text": " He also is a big fan of the Batman."
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"text": " Yeah, Batman."
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"text": " But it gets really weird."
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"text": " What does spinning mean?"
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"text": " That's like the soul cycle stuff."
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"text": " What else do we have here?"
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"text": " It's also like a bright pink, which is like, you know, Batman."
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"text": " Magenta Batman."
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"text": " No."
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"text": " That's like when you're searching out criminals in the night and attacking them and beating"
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"text": " It feels like magenta might be the wrong color."
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"text": " Like if you're sneaking around, magenta's probably not going to be the tone you're going for."
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"text": " He's not going to actually beat up Ralph de la Vega."
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"text": " No, he might."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " It's not like we'd be like, what?"
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"text": " I can't believe that happened."
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"text": " We'd be like, yeah, that was the logical conclusion of what was going on."
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"text": " Like, early morning we fire Ralph de la Vega like hanging from a light pole."
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"text": " Yeah, strange."
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"text": " Yeah, with a sign for the police."
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"text": " Yes, exactly."
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"text": " That's what's going to happen."
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"text": " Are there any more tweets?"
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"text": " We've got, unfortunately, a few more."
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"text": " This is his own t-shirt now."
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"text": " He has the matches of Batman."
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"text": " Now, this is heavy."
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"text": " This is tweets."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Always hashtag magnets."
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Wait."
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"text": " Yeah, that's good stuff."
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"text": " What's the next one?"
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"text": " And then here we go."
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"text": " The full transformation is the last one."
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"text": " Him dressed up as Batman at T-Mobile."
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " I get it."
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"text": " He's like avenging the death of fairness in wireless contracts."
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"text": " I guess."
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"text": " Right?"
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"text": " That makes sense."
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"text": " His family has a few."
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"text": " Anyhow, so clearly the man is a very colorful character and always entertaining."
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"text": " Very entertaining."
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"text": " What's going on behind me?"
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"text": " I'm just hanging out."
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"text": " Cool."
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"text": " Do you think he made this background himself?"
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"text": " I bet he actually used T-Mobile money to do that."
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"text": " I feel like he's like, I'm going to spend several hours Photoshopping."
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"text": " Oh, you think he did it personally?"
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"text": " Yeah, yeah, no, personally."
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"text": " So, we have the T-Mobile event."
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"text": " What time does it happen?"
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"text": " It's at 12.30 today."
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"text": " 12.30 today."
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"text": " We'll be streaming it live."
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"text": " We're going to be live streaming the T-Mobile event."
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"text": " I'm just trying to figure out what camera I'm on."
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"text": " We're live streaming the T-Mobile event."
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"text": " John Legere is sure to do something completely outrageous and we will capture it."
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"text": " So, we'll be live blogging it, live streaming it."
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"text": " And that's the only event for today."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Now, it's just we're going to hit the show floor."
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"text": " Now, we're just going to go."
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"text": " You're going to be seeing all kinds of crazy news and reports."
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"text": " Our guys are out doing weird stuff at the moment."
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"text": " You're going to be seeing lots more."
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"text": " They've only been beaten."
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"text": " They've been tased, electrocuted."
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"text": " All by John Legere."
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"text": " All by John Legere."
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"text": " While he was being a vigilante."
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"text": " But, so there's going to be a lot more news today."
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"text": " A lot more CES news."
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Yeah. Hello. I don't know. What am I doing? You know, like a cozy way. This is a great... Is cozy gambling a thing? This is the only time during the day that I see myself. Do you know that? All right. This is the first time and I'm shocked by what I'm seeing. It's upsetting. It's gross. And I should be put in jail. Is cozy gambling a thing? You look like you're going to gamble like a cozy... Cozy gambling. Like there's a fire roaring. You're wearing a... You get onto like a chest or field. You're wearing a fuzzy shirt. Yeah. And they roll over a slot machine with a gold leather, like a hand, a gold thing with a leather wrapped and you pull it. You're watching your favorite movie. Instead of going very fast, it's very slow. Right. Yeah. No, that doesn't exist. Well. Anyhow, so we had a big day today. Another. I mean, just today was the... It was one of our best days. It got real today. It got really real. Yeah. In a variety of ways, it got real. Yeah. So we should start... I mean, the day... I'm trying to look at all the news that happened here. I'm already overwhelmed that I want to kill myself. But I think today really started last night and it started with this story. Wow. That's true. I think it was maybe in the morning, as far as I can tell, when T-Mobile CEO John Leisure was kicked out of the AT&T party. Hold on. Is it John Leisure or John Legere? I've been saying Leisure. I think it's Legere. Yeah, but... Are you saying like John Leisure? You think he's the kind of guy who has rules? Because I don't. I think that when it comes to rules, John Legere ain't having them. He's not. Look, he's about unlimited... So you went to go see him out in the morning. You say he's about unlimited data. Is that what you're going to say? That's all he cares about. Unlimited data. He's a wild guy. Unlimited freedom. He's not about unlimited data. No, he was kicked out of his party last night, and he has an announcement tomorrow. So this news broke at like two in the morning. He went to go see Macklemore at the AT&T party. He was wearing a pink shirt. I think the most shocking part of this whole story is that he's a dork who still does the bunny ears in the photo. With Roger Jett. I'll tell you what's most disturbing is that 45-year-old CEO of T-Mobile thinks doing bunny ears on somebody in a photo is cool. Well, I'll tell you, there's a huge correlation between bunny ears people and Macklemore fans. Yeah. It's true. Macklemore is like the living embodiment of somebody doing bunny ears in a photo. All right, Eddie, I'll go on. Anyway, but he has a big... So this news is like happening. By the way, it's Macklemore. Macklemore? I say Macklemore, but it's apparently Macklemore. Do you know this? Carry on. It doesn't matter. Once I've had a couple of these tiny beers, it's all going to fade away in the wash. It's just going to be a slur. A slur of an M sound. I don't remember. Followed by projectile vomiting. Anyway, so he's got a big thing tomorrow. All day today, I've been hearing about just here and there about this dude getting kicked out because I don't think AT&T security knew who it was. I think it was planned. I think they just thought he was a Bon Jovi fan. I think he went there. He was going to their party. I think he went there. He took a bunch of photos doing bunny ears on people. Security saw it and they're like, these guys harassing our patrons. And they kicked his ass to the curb. I love him though. He's great. But Roger Chang said that AT&T was not happy he was there. At least that's what Roger said on Twitter. I understand that Ralph De La Vega personally, well once he got out, you know how in the movies there's always the club manager who's like, and I don't want to see you back here. In this case, it was Ralph De La Vega. He does seem like he has the look of a guy who would do that, right? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. So that was that. Then this morning, we started with Sony. Sony went all out. And I will say, Sony, yesterday we did their official press conference. What is the story this year with everybody having several press conferences? I don't know. I have a theory about it. The CEA, this was a slow year for CES. I believe it is a slow year. Did they announce record numbers or anything? Oh, they do that after. I think it's a slow year. I think that they had slots open and could not fill them for keynotes and events. And I think they were like, hey, what if you guys did two keynotes? The nighttime keynotes have always been- Two for the price of one. That's right. The official CEA nighttime keynotes have always been completely devoid of any news. They've always been about spectacle and loving the industry. Microsoft used to have the opening keynote for years. Generation Mobile. You're right. Qualcomm, god only knows what that was. I think god and other people know what it was. It was the most awesome keynote of all time presented by Dr. Paul Jacobs. Yeah. Who's sadly on his way out. Oh, I mean, no. He's- You know, everything changed for Qualcomm after that day. It seems like that keynote sealed Dr. Paul Jacobs' fate. That was the height of air games for Qualcomm. Try explaining that one to shareholders on the earnings call. We spent $2 billion and it made no sense. I can't wait to see the behind the music on Qualcomm. They're like, at the height of drug abuse and vanity, Dr. Paul Jacobs took to the stage and brought Big Bird with him. It's a band in Big Bird. Band in Big Bird, Rolls Royce, the woman from Star Trek. Yeah. Who just looks scared. You can name anything right now and people would be like, yeah, that happened. Be like, a unicorn that killed an elephant. That's occurred on CES. There's been none of that here. It's all been like, Sony's thing was like, here's a lot of products. Today we were expecting kind of a kickoff CES morning thing. And KaaZ actually came out and announced a bunch of stuff. Yeah. It's cool. It's really cool. The coolest stuff, I think, so far. Cool if working. Well, yeah, but PlayStation now works. We went and played with it. So that's- PlayStation now. We bought Gikai and now it's streaming so you can stream PS3 games to all kinds of things. Sony TVs, Blu-ray players. Gikai tech all over the place. So that's cool. People are really into it. Everybody who I've seen who's played with it really likes it. They announced a live TV service, like an internet TV service. Which as far as I can tell is- Does it have- Consists right now of just an icon and a slide. The internet service does not have a name. It's gonna be like Sony Video Unlimited or Sony Entertainment Unlimited. Whatever their names are, they've dumbled into it. Short throw projector. And then they announced this crazy, crazy stuff. This life, what is it called? Life O-House or something? No, it's, where is it? Life O-House? I have it. God, all the names are really bad. It's called Life Space UX or Life Space Ux. That's pretty close. Yeah. Life Space Ux? Life Space Ux. So Sony has all these crazy laser projectors that only need basically a little over two feet to put up 120 inch images. And so I went and saw it just now at their booth. It looks like a piece of furniture, but not a great piece of furniture. I was surprised- It looks like kind of like my air conditioning unit. I was surprisingly- Or like the back of a Testarossa. So that whole white thing is the unit? Yeah. So it's gonna be like $15,000. Oh, I mean that's a prototype. I was surprisingly impressed by the short throw projector. I heard them say the word projector and I was like, you've got to be kidding me. And then they showed what it does and I was like, yeah, this is cool. I want one. I spoke to Kaz Harai earlier today. Yeah. I know Kaz a little bit. Kaz and I go way back. We hit the links sometimes together shooting our golf balls all over the place. Just firing at people. And so he did some interesting stuff. First off, he dissed you hard. He said, so this is really weird. He was like, I was like, what's the deal with cloud TV? What kind of partnerships are you gonna strike? They didn't want to talk to anyone, say anything about partnerships. He says, we don't want to compete with cable TV. We want to integrate. It really sounds like what the Xbox One is doing where it's trying to integrate everything into a single place where you can watch whatever you want to watch whenever you want to watch it. But it didn't sound like there was gonna be a pass through solution. So one of two things, he was like, we don't want to compete with cable companies. Then he was like, well, maybe with live TV we'll compete with cable companies. And it's like, well, what else is there beyond like- Nobody has an answer for this. Stuff that isn't live TV, which is readily available for everybody. And then the other stuff, which is live TV. It's a, I mean, nobody has the answer and he's probably lying. But they can't do pass throughs. So my guess is they're either gonna like try to strike some deals with some straight up with content providers. Like ABC is gonna give them their ABC channel and do live. But they can't. I mean, like, if Sony could pull that off, then Apple would have been able to pull it off a year ago or two years ago. This is what Intel just abandoned. Wait, hold on. Right, but let me just offer you a problem. But he made a point. But no, but here's the problem. Like here it is. I wanna hear his point. You're Sony, right? And you wanna start this stuff and they're like, man, table stakes to get television to people. We need the big networks. Okay, let's go to a tap tape. ABC says yes. CBS says yes. They wanna see what the others are. Oh, we should go talk to NBC. You know who owns NBC? Comcast. Yeah. You know where you just hit the brick wall and you're done. Like that's the end of that. Sounds to me like a little bit of a monopoly. Yeah. Okay, but here's the thing. Nobody watches any of those stations anymore. No, they're the vast majority of the watchers. But here's the thing. I think the argument he made is true when you see their... Like CBS is the number one network. I mean, when you see their output. Have you ever watched Two and a Half Men? Religious group. It's crazy. You're into it. It's like being on another planet where everybody is super dumb. So it's like CBS. Yes, a little bit like CBS. But his argument was we have a huge installed user base. We have PS3s and 25 million homes in the US. So I think that they're... And which is interesting is that he wasn't like, this will be our next gen thing. He was like, we're gonna bring this to several different devices. So I mean, maybe there's deals to be struck with these cable providers. I don't know. Maybe they're the ones who can crack it. Maybe they're like, we're already making this stuff and they sold 4.2 million PS4s. They're approaching, what, 30 million units that just sit around people's houses. That's not nothing. But it's super hard for these hardware companies to offer services, right? So finally, a hardware company like Sony, it's getting religion about services. We have to offer people more than just the hardware. But look at Apple falling all over themselves to create services that are worth our money. And they can't do it. And they can't do it. I think Sony's gonna run into similar problems. I mean, I hope they don't. But Sony's thing is like they at least, right, they make Breaking Bad. That's a Sony pictures product. I guess they could leverage. I guess they could. I mean, look, there's all contracts. Hypothetically, Sony could leverage their content and say, listen, you scratch our backs, we'll scratch yours. No, but they already do. So when you buy, the only company that can possibly do this is Sony. When you buy a Sony 4K TV, it comes with movies. They just give you 100, like here's a box. That's because they're like, what else are you gonna play on this? But like Samsung doesn't do that. On this hunk of crap that doesn't do anything. There's no way that, but I'm saying, look, Samsung cannot possibly do that. You haven't seen the Samsung films? They're really good. They're like, they're like exactly like the Sony movies. What happens if you Google Samsung films? But it's slightly different. Man, I went and played with the Samsung tab. Wait, hold on, let's get to that. Wait a second. I want to, Kaz also said 4K mainstream adoption five to seven years away. Yeah. I heard 2016 from somebody today. I mean, 2016 is extremely generous. 2016 is. That's two years, not mainstream adoption. Yeah. So 2016 is like, you know, maybe like a quarter of the sales. Well, he was, yeah, what is interesting is that he was very upfront about, he was like, how long did HD take? Yeah. It was like a decade, you know? Yeah. And you know, they were, the guys at the Sony guys were even, you know, willing to say like, look, even five years ago, HD did not. It just started to get picked up by cable companies, you know? So you have to think about the map. I mean, I'm not like gloating or anything about the lack of, of, of traction. Yeah. What you want is crappy pictures. You want to look at bad things. I don't care. I just want my, as long as you give me season seven of Breaking Bad, I'm a happy guy. Okay. That's all I want in life. But anyway, I just don't think. Walt, Walt. Oh, I almost spoiled. Yeah. I almost, I almost gave it away. Yeah. Go ahead. Let's not give it away. I look weird. I thought you were going to say something about Walt. I mean, every time I catch a glance of myself in this thing, they say the camera adds 10 pounds, but it's also making me look like a mutant. Yeah. The camera adds 10 pounds and also a slight vampire effect. Yeah. Yeah. A werewolf. I would say if, if I do kind of look like, you know, where there's a werewolf quality to my face, but also it's vampiric. Right. Due to its paleness. So she's talking about this. Like a Dracula and a werewolf. So Kaz announced all this stuff and we ran a super cut of Kaz and the title we put on was weird Sony is back. Right. Because I, last year and the year before Kaz really like started talking, you know, he took over as CEO. Yeah. Like cleaned up, he announced one Sony. Yeah. He was always like. They restructured, they slimmed down. He kept on talking about challenges and exchange markets and currency problems. And this year he's like, we've got to make things that are great. We can't make things that are commodities. And like their weird ideas about things are maybe they're not the right ideas. Like maybe you don't want a piece of furniture that's a projector, but I'd rather have Sony trying to make those things than not. I said, I tweeted that the aspirational Sony is back. And I remember talking about. I mean, it really does look like the back of a tester or so. Yeah, I remember talking about Sony's, the aspirational quality of their products. And they've even taught, they've even said that I, that's where Sony came to dominate. Right. Was making, saying like, we're not going to make the commodity stuff. We're going to make the special stuff. But I asked them, I said in that same meeting, I didn't, I have a bunch of quotes and a bunch of things I didn't actually write up, but I asked Kaz how they protect themselves. You know, let's say in five to seven years, panels are going to be cheaper. Other companies like Samsung and LG are all doing 4k. Everybody's doing 4k. So how do they protect themselves in 4k the way they did not protect themselves with HD? Which is like clearly Sony was on the cutting edge of television technology for the longest time. And then all of a sudden China happened, you know, Korea happened and you have these much cheaper panels. You have companies like Vizio coming in and just pulling the rug out from under them. And I was like, how are you going to ensure that that doesn't happen again with 4k? Clearly they're investing a huge amount of money and time and resources into 4k. And Kaz was like really pragmatic. He's like, we need to be, you know, we've restructured, we've trimmed down. He's like, we want to be, we need to be able to offer the cheaper products, but not commodity product, you know, not just the commodity product and still do the high end and still be leading the way. And you know, I think they are aware now, much more aware thanks to him of their position and how much more precarious it is. Well, at this point it's not there yet. Yeah, but I think they know what to do, which is like a surprising moment for Sony. Like they, I loved Howard Stringer and I really got the sense that like he knew what to do about Apple and software and the internet. Right? Like you thought that? No, I was, he didn't. Oh, I get the sense that Kazari kind of knows what to do. It seems like, he seems like there's a vision there and they're working through towards something. Right. And whereas Stringer was like, I don't know what Stringer was all about. Stringer was about being awesome. He liked movies, he seemed to really like single damn about anything. He'd bring Tillie McGuire out, no problem, no big deal. I asked him, while you were interviewing Kaz, I was interviewing their new, the new president of Sony Electronics. So Phil Molyneux was like the long time president of Sony Electronics. Well, these weren't quite concurrent because he was also in my meeting, but anyhow, go on. Oh, they were like an hour apart. They were very close together. They were like an hour apart. It would have been incredible if it was at the same time. Look, there's a reason they replaced Phil with Mike and it's because he can be everywhere. There's two, he literally can be everywhere. And I asked him and he's like, he was the one who put, he used to be the chief marketing officer of Sony. And he was like, yeah, I was the one who brought Taylor Swift in. And I was like, what happened? Like, why did you stop doing it? He's like, we really need to start focusing on what we can actually deliver people and not like spectacle. He screwed up those things very badly. And I told him that that was a huge mistake because that Taylor Swift Sony keynote was like three years ago. Most important moment of your life. Well, it was just the audacity of Sony to be like, okay, we make 3D cameras and 3D TVs. So put on these 3D glasses and then Taylor Swift is going to come out. But don't look at her. Look at us filming her in 3D and then watch it over here. And everyone was like, no. And everyone took off the glasses. It was a pretty cool idea. It was explosions. If it hadn't worked, it's a pretty cool idea. So then after that, they talked about curved a little bit in our meeting. They did? Yeah. Do they just diss it hard? No, actually. They were sort of positive about it. Really? I just went and looked at a bunch of them. I cannot figure out one reason why I want to go. I feel like somebody said in the meeting, once you see curved, it's hard to look at normal television. That might have been a diss on curved. Yeah. Might have been like, it's hard because curved looks distorted and weird. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know Sony's. I don't think Sony's weird. Deed and I just took a little walk on the show floor and we kept on looking at the curved ones and we're like, why? Why? Because 3D is dead. Yeah. We also went to LG where I texted a washing machine and a stove. Yeah. What did you text it? Was it a sext? I think we texted- Did you take pics? Yeah. I texted it, I checked this out. I'm like, that needs a clean- It doesn't have a phone number. You have to use a- You need to refill that or do you need to put things in the washing machine? It doesn't have a phone number. You have to use a special LG app called Home Chat. So I'm already excited. I get to download the text your washing machine app. You love, you love, you love. You can send it things like- Yeah, Terry. That sounds like that's going on my home screen. Yeah, it's really insane. Even the woman who was demoing it to us was like, yeah, I mean, I mostly texted things like, where are you? And then the washing machine texts you back like, I wish I was free, which is hilarious. No, really? If I had that demo, I would have asked for a written apology at the end. Come on. What are we doing here? I mean, I, what would you tell, I don't understand. You know what? Let's just not. Yeah. We have a lot to talk about. We don't need to talk about it. I don't want to get into it. All right, so let's talk about what really happens to me. So Sony, wait, is there anything else that Sony- No, I mean, Sony's like, I think they're really ambitious in a way that I haven't seen a lot of time. I think that's cool. Yeah. They're probably going to bring out like, some of the laserdisc player next. Yeah. Blu-ray, Blu-ray laserdisc. Can you imagine how much content you could fit on a size of a laserdisc? It's like 800 movies. Yeah, a BluDisc. So let's talk about what really happens to me. Casey? Yeah. The Yahoo keynote. Yahoo. Yeah. This was like- Which I characterize by the way, as nonstop flop sweat. Just nonstop bombs. Yahoo had- And not by like, the drop the mic bombs, just like jokes bombing hard. The Yahoo keynote had moments of utter sublime transcendence. And then it had moments, mostly moments of me- Screaming in rage. Just being enraged or disappointed or- So Casey was there- Reverse, what's reverse laughing? Frowning? I think so. It's FOF, I believe it's called. Oh yeah, FOF. Frown on face. Frown on face. I love it. A lot of FOF-y today. And not really out of anger, but just disappointment. Just like, why is this happening? So Casey, you ran the best live log ever. What happened? Thank you very much. So, you know, if I'm going to say something in Yahoo's favor, it's the difficulty level for this keynote was super high. They're not a hardware company. The things that get us excited when we go to these keynotes is, hey look, it's a new tablet, it's a new phone. And they got to come out and say, hey, we have a new mobile app for reading the news. Hey, we made an acquisition. Hey, here are some people from Saturday Night Live. But I think- Did that happen? I totally- That did, yeah. Where was I? So, you know, Yahoo owns the Saturday Night Live library and they stream it to their apps and on the web. And they started showing a clip and then Marissa came out and said, hey, you know what, it would be great if this were actually live. And then she brought out Cecily Strong and Kenan Thompson and they did a little weekend update bit. Oh, look at that. Yeah. Totally- Every single one of these jokes bombed. Yeah. Like, they delivered a line and it was like just silence. Were they funny? At one point she rolled her eyes. No, she was like, what's his name? The Somley guy's name? Nick D'Alioso is how you pronounce that. D'Alioso. Yes. That's how Marissa Meyer pronounced it. And she was like, Nick D'Alioso, he's a young man and she's like, and all the ladies are like, is he 18 yet? And then there was just dead silence. Well, I'll say this. Dead, awful silence. Let's be honest. CS audience, not known for their ability to laugh. True. Or get jokes. And SNL is outside their wheelhouse, right? Way outside. Yeah. Like, asking- I mean, the biggest laugh was at the end when dude was like, good job on that search engine and everyone exploded. Like, you made a really good search engine and everyone was like, you just burned Yahoo with their own keyboard. Yeah. I mean, it was miserable. Every moment of that. Like, Katie Couric, like, being a robot was, I don't know. Let's get into some real talk. Yeah, let's talk about it. David Pogue. There was some burns. Before today, I was like, I kind of tolerated David Pogue. He's a pleasant fellow. After today, I just, I have to say, he seemed genuinely unlikable today. And not just because he was dissing, like, all of the sites that he's now in a smear with. No, no, I get it. I understand it now. I've gotten some distance. I had a tiny beer. Yeah. I figured it out. That was, he was doing an Apple presentation. That's all he knows in his heart. That wasn't- No, it was like- No, no. What are the best presentations I know? It was like a Cheki Green with Cheki Green's jokes. He was like, let me show you all the other sites and why they suck. Now let me show you what we're going to do. And then it's like, dude, but it's not an iPad. Yeah. It's like the relative scale of things that we- There we are. En Badger, The Urge. Can we just look at these puns? Hashtag The Urge is like a- Gizmoody. Gizmoody, you nailed it, dude. Knocked it out of the park. I mean, I'm sure, I have no doubt right now the members of the Gizmodo staff curled into fetal positions, crying uncontrollably due to this harsh, clever diss, this play on their name, Gizmoody. Yeah, they closed up shop. What's the point anymore? Some of the worst photo shopping as well. Also, by the way, this new, this, listen, let me tell you guys something. Yeah. Our, our word mark is a altered font. If you really wanted to get this right, you'd have gone and found the font and put the proper you in there. This is some lazy shit. Yeah. Is that like, what, is that Futura? What are we looking at? Yeah, I don't know. He drew it on his iPad. Yeah, right. Could somebody tweet the you font at us? I would actually like to know. Yeah. No, that's not a you font. He drew, he literally drew an orange square and then erased it into the shit. So here's the deal. David Pogue was like, oh, listen, New York and California, amazing brainiacs, middle of America, dumb shits who don't deserve our time, energy or attention. Normals. Right. He's like, we're going to make a tech blog for dumb asses like all of the people in the middle of America. And here's the thing, like, here's what I'll say. All jokes aside about like our fake name and Gizmodo's fake name and everything. David Pogue is fundamentally incorrect about what he thinks about adoption of technology and understanding of technology in America. What he thinks is, hey, the mainstream is dumb and they need to be talked down to and we need to dumb shit down for them because they won't get it otherwise. Here's what's happening. The mainstream is getting smarter about technology. The mainstream understands technology better today than they have ever understood it and is becoming an integral, completely normal part of their lives. And so his idea that somehow we need to dumb this stuff down because they don't understand it is probably literally only based on the fact that Yahoo's readership skews old. And he's coming from the New York Times, which I think specifically for him has an audience that his tech audience in the New York Times is they have no idea what's going on. They're not they're not they're not young. They're not representative of like the core of American consumers. And at one point it was just really weird because he literally divided America into red states and blue states. And then he kind of like yelled at an invisible Obama for a while. Like he was doing the thing like, I don't understand why you guys keep using these words like form factor. And it's like, A, I'm not there. B, I haven't done that in a long time. The other thing is the other thing that he did is that if you look at the you know, and not to get go down a rabbit hole here, but if you're a person with a brain who's read any of the sites that he mentioned, which is Gizmodo, Engadget, The Verge and Recode, like they're wildly different. Yeah, distinctly different. Gizmodo does not do the same thing as Engadget. We do not do the same thing as any of those sites. Recode is completely different. I mean, and I don't mean different like they cover different stories. They write differently. They have different types of headlines. Their coverage areas are different. And it's like, it was simplistic. It was insulting. And the most important part of what he presented, it was fucking wrong. And I have to say, like, you know, I didn't take to Twitter and say anything about it. I'm not going to write an editorial about it. I mean, frankly, everybody else on Twitter handled it for me. But it was like, I would describe it as like a relatively odious presentation. Like I'm not insulted that he was making fun of us. He doesn't know what we do. That's pretty obvious to me. Right. But what was it like in the room? But he's wrong. But here's what I think. But he's wrong. I just said this. He's wrong about America. I agree. He's wrong about how people understand technology. And what he did was insulting to people rather than inclusive and exciting to people. That's my opinion. Right. So but here's, because here's another drink. Yeah, I also, can I have another tiny beverage, please? Just unrelated to Pogue. Can we just get a pitcher or something? Can we get a pitcher of vodka? So here's my question. So yeah. So there's been kind of a theory, a meme out there that Marissa Meyer, she came in, she was a big celebrity. She's a superstar executive. She came in, she's the CEO. She started buying all these young hip companies. She's going to turn Yahoo into a technological force by getting all this talent. There was an app we covered today, a news stream. Yeah, News Digest. News Digest. I wanted to hear the mood in the room. Are you getting to that? Yeah, I'm getting to that. Which I think is very actually innovative. It has some problems, but like it looks beautiful. And then I feel like Pogue stood in front of an audience of tech journalists and just burned all of that goodwill that she had stored up. So what was it like? And also just sounded like not in touch with what's happening. Right. I mean, I think it was a bold move to go after the tech blogs, the tech sites, tech publications the way that he did. And in fact, some Yahoo people came up to me afterwards and were like, are you okay? And I was like, yeah, I think I can deal with this burn. The most minor of burns. Right, right. So, you know, certainly it made us think about David Pogue a certain way. But, you know, as far as the mood in the room, prior to him, it had been sort of a little bit chilly, a little bit staid. It had been sort of Katie Couric talking to Marissa Meyer and sort of like polite hugs and air kisses. And then David Pogue comes out and sort of goes into stand up comic mode and he's trying to get laughs and he's talking loud and he's like punching his lines. He was doing some some aces stuff, Johnny Shih. Like the the hardcore emphasis. Yeah, but everybody loves Johnny Shih. Well, yeah, I know he's awesome. But I'm just saying it was like the. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Wonderful man. Hey, I got beer for you guys. Hey, thanks. I'm taking it personally. Screw this tiny cup. Yeah, just drink out of the. Oh, you're going for the you're doing the tiny. Oh, boy. Casey's got manners. Oh, boy. San Francisco. Oh, boy. Oh, my goodness. Drink up and then tell us what you really think. Oh, no. That's wow. Can we get this guy up? That's beautiful. I've never poured a beer into a cup that small before. This is like a volumetric challenge right there. That actually makes me wonder, are there non moist towelettes? Are there just towelettes? Yeah, of course. Paper towels. No. Oh, but is it when does it become a towelette? I think it was wrapped in a small package. I think you could be right. Anyhow. Yeah. Where were we? You were just tells that what? Yes. To what? He's asking you to in the on your sets, he's saying he wants you to cheat out. To cheat out, which is like, yeah, like you sort of. Oh, yeah, I cheated out. John, I don't think you've this has ever gone subtly. Is this what you ever have you ever tried to make this a seamless thing where I wasn't handing him a roll of paper towels? This is what I wanted you to cheat out of me lies shots. I love this. Give you these. Can we just see what it would look like if he knew what cheating out was? Can we just? Okay, so now where were you? Where did you want to cheat out to the several feet? Am I going not this way? No, no, no, no, no. Go ahead. Let's see what I have to do. Well, you guys aren't hearing which was what's in my and Josh's ears. It's the sound of John Locomarcino dying. Just just dying. This is for me. Thank you. Great. Wow. We're really ruining everything. This is this for me like he doesn't need this. Believe me. I'll say, hey, boy, no, let me drink this. And I think you know what's happening here. And it's not good. I'm gonna Josh and I are gonna cuddle tonight. Oh, no, that's not what I bet. But it does sound nice. Actually gets cold in Las Vegas. I just got it. I just got a tweet that says get to the meet. Anyhow, yeah, we need to get it's never happening. All right. So I'm sorry. I'll just go out. Yeah, just let me just shoot these towels over to you. Welcome to the virtual. Yeah. This year. Like so. Nobody could see this. Very nice. Just doing this like so. Somebody sent us to you. Somebody says to you. Thank you, AJ. Gago. Yeah. Send us the what they sent us to you. Oh, we found the you from the urge. Is it is it our. Is it our. Is it our. Is it our. Is it our. Is it our. Is it our. Oh, it's our real you. Yeah. Yeah. If you'd have done one second of searching, you could have found the real. He doesn't do searching. Normals don't find the real. You sound like you find the real you sounds like a great slogan for a company that specializes in digital meditation devices. OK. Mood in the room. Yeah. So in the room. So I think people are sort of taking it back. And then I think, you know, frankly, his jokes seem to fall a little bit flat. That's an elf. Folks definitely got more laughs than he did. Maybe not that many. Not that many, which is not safe. So that's not safe. I will say I have to speak in defense of Kenan Thompson, who I believe is a national treasure. He is the greatest living Saturday Night Live performer who's currently on the show. I believe that is the case. And he really like you like you could see how hard he was trying on his face. And he actually did make me laugh a couple of times. No, but when he at the end, when he was like the search engine joke. Yeah. Like that murdered. Yeah, no, totally. Let me just say something. Yeah, let's let's see. Yes, the tough crowd. You know why people here don't know how to laugh. Yeah. They didn't come here to laugh. They came here to make a back reveals on RAM. Right. Right. They came here to check out the new steam machines. Right. I think of the Verge's mission here is really to teach people how to laugh. Don't you think so? I'm absolutely not only to teach people how to laugh, but to teach ourselves how to laugh. I will say a new a new weird thing has happened to me this year at CS where the people in the booths are now ready for us. Yeah. So I went into the Samsung booth and I was immediately accosted by people. We went to the LG booth and we were immediately accosted by people. Accosted in what way? Like in a friendly way? They were putting it in a cell. Yeah, they're ready for us. And they're like, it used to be I would show up and be relatively anonymous and break stuff for a while. Now I understand it. But now it's like a lot of people being like, let me show you these features. That's very new. It's like they I think the CS has gone from being only about the backdoor RAM deals to being really about the press. About the front door. And that's what I think. Yeah. Front door RAM deals. That's my new metal pan. Now wait a second. So then Pogue did his shtick. Yeah. Katie Couric was on stage. Yeah. I thought Marissa Mayer did a nice job. I don't know if it was because of her, but I liked hearing her talk. I like her. I mean, you know what was refreshing? I actually emailed somebody at the CA. I was like, have we ever seen a female keynoter? Oh yeah. Yeah. And there's only been one other. Is that right? Yeah, 2004 and 2005 and her name is now escaping me because I glanced at the email during the Marissa Mayer thing. And at any rate, I can pull it up. So they're very few and far between. And I actually, it was like just weird because it's the show is so full of like, right. There's so many dudes on stage and so many do. And look, you know, look, we have a lot of dudes at the verge, you know, like, okay, you know, don't kill me. We're sexist. I mean, we're, we're, we're in our charter with sexism is mandatory. Man, man is in that. There's actually a no girls allowed sign on the trailer. No girls allowed. Addie has been working in an Oculus Rift just outside the trailer. That's right. We just, in a virtual recreation of the interior of the trailer. She's just outside. That's how, that's how advanced we are in our sexism. Yeah. Anyhow. No, but it was, it was great to have her there. And I think the best thing that Yahoo did was, was that they had Gary Shapiro introduce her because so out of control in 15 seconds. It's Shapiro. That is just not Shapiro's off the hook. Shapiro is the most in control. Shapiro said the word innovation 11 times in one sentence. And then it was like, and now Marissa Meyer and just like the relief that you feel when he leaves the stage, like you cannot be more excited about what's going to happen. Shapiro is my homeboy. I love Shapiro. It was Carly Fiorina, HP. Carly Fiorina. Yes. Thank you. Okay. HP went on to great success. Did not end well for Carly. Not a great, but you know what? It gave, gave, gave her all. I mean, it was cool that Yahoo was here. I just, it's David Pierce said something at the end of it. He's like that. David Pierce, who I consider to be our David Pogue. When you really think about it. Right now, David, right now, David, if he's watching. Somewhere David Pierce just exploded. He's dying. He's dying. Here's a, here's a fact about the verge. Are you ready for it? David Pierce used to be David Pogue's intern. Pierce was Pogue's intern. So was Joanna. We have a long policy of only hiring David. Joanna Stern. Or David Pogue's intern. Joanna Stern is now at the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, also, also former Pogue intern. But David Pierce, his nickname is DP2. And it's gotten to the point where he hated it so much. And now he just quietly answers to it. I don't want, I won't. Because of the emotional toll it has taken upon him. Ron, there's something going on with my hair right now. Can you get back to that single? Guys, I'm looking at a picture of Doc Brown playing, fucking shredding, while wearing Google Glass. I don't know what to do. Let this be a lesson. Have you ever seen more joy? Can we put this picture on the screen? Can we put Doc Brown up? Doc Brown shredding while wearing Glass. I really feel sorry. I really feel sorry for people who are watching this. I have to say. Sometimes you think, what's it like to experience this as a third party? David quit. And my impression is, my impression is it's terrible. David just out loud in the trailer said I quit. Can we get Doc Brown on screen? So I will say there's, my God in heaven. I don't see Doc Brown on this screen. This is what tells you what CES is like. There are a lot of gimmicks here. Today I saw like lady dancers dancing inside of a gigantic fake Android phone. What's a lady dancer? They're dancers or ladies. There's all manners of booth babes here. It's really weird. It's like the return of the booth babes. Of course there's booth babes. Oh, there we go. No, no, but it's like the return. But Doc Brown and DeLorean. Check the headline here. I think it's, it's pretty good. It's sad and also very funny. But like this has been the greatest CES publicity son of all time. The Back to the Future car with Doc Brown shredding in Google Glass. But I will say this. I mean, I don't know if we'd have covered it if we weren't so close to it. I mean, the Gibson 10 is literally this car was parked next to our trailer. We're like, is that the DeLorean from Back to the Future? These pictures are, did Michael do these? Yeah. These pictures are amazing. Yeah. They are amazing. I mean, the last one in particular is. This is bad. This is just not good. Come on. You have never seen joy out of a face like that. You know what? God, he looks a lot like Tim Cook in this picture. I have to say. In the last one? Yeah. Where's the Tim Cook laughing picture? Could be a future. I see what you're saying. I think we both the Tim Cook laughing picture. That's a by the way, if you're looking for it in the arts in our in chorus, it's Tim underscore cook underscore laughing. Jaypeg. Cool. Cool. I don't think it is. Dude, come on. They're totally wildly different. No, they're like they're like scrawny white guys with white hair. They're wildly different. Maniacally. Get that Christopher Lloyd shot up. Can you photoshop a guitar into the Tim Cook picture? I think we can. I think someone can. I think it's so tiny and brown. I'm just surrounded. So Yahoo. Let's start. Sorry, Casey. It's going to be up here in a second. No, I got real. They're just doing the thing. It's the only way I like it. All right. So let's talk about some other things. No, no, no, no. No, all right. We don't have to. What else happened? Can we talk about the self-discovery? Oh, my God. Come on. That's not. I don't. Yeah. That's uncanny. Can we photoshop Tim Cook's head back a little further? That's uncanny. Yeah, actually, it kind of works as Dave Grohl is in that. We've got Dave Grohl's neck to be in this picture, and it's kind of out of control. It's like it's like. Why did your husband die in Las Vegas? Well, he began choking on a beer when he gazed upon Dave Grohl's neck in a two-year-old photo. Can you zoom in on that? No! Can you brighten it? Enhance. Enhance. It's a little funky. What is happening? I mean, I shouldn't talk. You know, my neck probably looks like that under whatever's going on. Oh, you got a funky neck, dude. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. Very nice. All right, Casey, what else happened? Well, do we want to talk about this NewsDidist app? Because it's interesting in this very specific way, right? So the kid Nick. Nick D'Alioso. D'Alioso. He seems like a really sweet kid. He's smart. He created an app called Summly. He created an app called Summly. Yahoo purchased it for $30 million. But not before Gizmodo publicly shamed. Gawker. Gizmodo or Gawker? I believe it was Gizmodo. Well, no, Gawker published it. Not before Gawker publicly shamed a 15-year-old, which to me is reprehensible on several levels, but I digress. Yeah. I just kind of just say 15-year-olds are the worst, okay? They do tear. If you knew me when I was 15, I'm bad now. If you knew me when I was 15, you would have spit on me as soon as you could. You spit on you? You would have. You would have. You would have spit on me because I was so horrible. You have? Okay. I mean, I just- You didn't grow up in Pittsburgh, I guess. That's right. That's fucking right. You didn't grow up in Pittsburgh. Mean streets. That's right. Sorry, Casey. Yeah, so here's why I think this app is interesting. We're talking about Yahoo News Digest. It's iOS only right now. It's US only right now. I can't believe we're switching back to our serious conversation. We're trying. Honestly, the thing is we're talking about. So we live in this world where because of the success of companies like Facebook and Twitter, everybody has an endless stream, right? Any app you visit now, there's just this activity feed that goes on forever. And Yahoo has developed several of these apps. That's not it. No, this is Yahoo Tech, which is an endless stream, right? So it's totally to my point. So then Yahoo comes along and from what I'm told it was this guy's, Nick's idea, this 18-year-old's idea, he wanted to make the news more like a newspaper. He said newspapers, believe it or not, got one thing right, which was people like to finish them. I don't know how a 17-year-old can possibly have any perspective about what newspapers got right, but I will say... He was right? Well, no, but I mean... Everyone just keeps tweeting the Tim Cook picture at me. It's happened like four times. I don't know. I mean, I guess a sense of completion. Have you ever finished an entire newspaper? Yeah, I mean, I've worked at newspapers. Have you ever read cover to cover every article in a newspaper? No one's ever read... I've skimmed the classifieds. Because that's the thing. I think what's amazing about newspapers is that they are skimmable and you don't have to finish them actually. But yeah, go ahead. But it's still at least a package of information and it's at least theoretically possible to finish it. We live in a world now where there's this idea that we should just overwhelm people with links. And all of the other big news reading apps on the market, I'm thinking of apps like Circa, like Prismatic, they just give you all of these links. And I think this app is really refreshing because it's like you need fewer links. So we're just going to interrupt you twice a day and be like, here are 10 things you need to know now. You can skim through it in a couple of minutes. And the design is really crisp. I think it's a really interesting app. Yahoo is not known for being a particularly progressive, forward thinking company when it comes to product design. This app actually strikes me as ahead of the curve. Yeah, I completely agree. I played with it. You showed me it a little bit and it's awesome. There's a weird robot writing thing going on. Well no, I haven't had a chance to use the app but the writing in it is not good. But it's computer generated, right? Explain to me how it works. Okay, so the Summly algorithms that made D'Aliosso a millionaire at the age of 17 go out and they crawl the web. 30 times now. And they find links and they sort of aggregate these multiple documents and they purge them down into one. And then you have this kind of text that summarizes the article. That's what Summly used to do. That's still in this app. But this app goes further than that. It pulls in maps, it pulls in photos, it pulls in Wikipedia links. So if you want to dive deeper on the topic, you can. What's the level of human involvement in that? So what they've told me is that the same people who program the Yahoo homepage, so those people who are finding news and are kind of curating that, they're working on this app. They're helping to curate those links. So the algorithms are basically presenting them with a menu. The human editors come in and they say, let's hit these 10 things and they push them out on the web. But in the actual creation of an article? They're not writing. I believe that they're doing some kind of quality assurance stuff and making sure there are no obvious errors. Is the app attributing any of the sources? The sources are sort of buried at the bottom. But if you want to see the source links for all the articles, you can tap, you can get them. I mean, it sounds like, let me just say this, and I'm not trying to be a Luddite, but it sounds like a terrible idea that is going to lead to widespread misinformation. And it's because of the robot stuff? Yeah, but more importantly, poorly written information, which I think is the greater offense. But I think it's also kind of lame that it's like, hey, here's all this information that real people put together, and we're going to just grab a few snippets out of it, turn it into a new thing, and push it out to you as a remix or whatever. I just don't think that the transmission of intellectual information happens in weird robotic ways like that. I think that you need people. I mean, maybe I'm biased because we have a news website. But does Circa have human editors? Circa also has human editors. So there's like a mix? There's a mix. They're doing, I think, a little bit more writing. Circa's more like story streams, where it kind of puts together pieces from each article as slices, right? It's not trying to make a perfectly readable article, right? Am I crazy? Well, I mean, it's a readable article. The thing with Circa does that's cool that I would like to see another app try is you can follow a story. So I used it during the government shutdown, because I really did- You mean like the Verge app? Yeah, like the Verge app. And cheers to us for leading the way on that. But Circa lets you cover, lets you follow stories outside of the scope of things that we write about. I don't know. It's all right for that. But for the most part- I will say the design of News Digest is really awesome. It's a terrible name. I agree with that. News Digest is really not like, oh, how are you getting your information? Oh, I'm using News Digest. I do wish they'd sort of try to create a new brand with this and just say, let's come up with something that doesn't just sound so plainly utilitarian. Yeah, News. Do they still use the exclamation point? Is that just going to be there forever? I think so. That exclamation point's too hard. We should talk about Aviate. So Yahoo bought Aviate, which is a home screen replacement for Android, which I think is really interesting. I mean, at the beginning of the thing, I was like, oh my god, they're going to do a Yahoo phone. And now they basically have like the core of a Yahoo phone, which is a home screen. Yeah, that's going to be super interesting to watch. I actually met with one of the founders of Aviate after the keynote. And one of the things he said that surprised me was, Aviate's going to continue to be live. You can still go download it. This sort of thing struck me as a prime candidate for just sort of being shut down and sent to the Yahoo Stunt Quartz. It's like an Aqua hire. Yeah, but they're going to keep it alive. They have a lot of things they want to try. What's going on? Can we get that on screen? Who did that? Oh my god. Did you do that? Oh, gosh. That's amazing. Give that to our guys. They need to see that. I'll send it to you. You'll see it momentarily. I know you have it. Okay, if you have it, show it. Show it to me. We've got something really special for you. If our video guys aren't here. Yeah. This is where the promise of tonight's Virgcast comes true. Yeah, there we go. I mean, and I think you have to admit, no real break in the action. Thank you to Howard Pinsky. No real break in the action there. Completely seamless. Not confused at all. But upset it. Make me so happy. All right, what else happened today? Oh, god. So much other stuff happened. Not that much stuff. Oh, Oculus. Oculus Rift introduced the new version. So I'm very confused with the new Oculus Rift. So it's the Crystal Cove. Crystal Cove. It's a more, I think it's a more. Some more final. But they added. No, no, it's not more final. It's a new version of Oculus Rift. It has some better sensors, some more sensors. It requires a camera now because it has LEDs and does head tracking. It can tell when your body and head are in different positions. Wasn't Crystal Cove where Murder She Wrote took place? That sounds like the kind of thing that the Oculus Rift did. Sounds like the kind of thing that Casey would definitely do. How would you even possibly know? You know what? It was Cabot Cove. I apologize. What's Crystal Cove? Crystal Cove. Crystal Cove sounds like a resort town. Yeah, that's definitely. Crystal Cove is like where you go to live out the rest of your days. Yeah. In a really nice condo. I don't know. It sounds to me like Crystal Lake. Crystal Cove Beach Cottages. Which makes me think of Jason. In the Crystal Cove State Park. And Friday the 13th. And it makes me think of people being murdered. Stabbed to death. Heads chopped off. Being dragged to the bottom of a lake. And that's a lot of ways for the Oculus Rift. So also Oculus confirmed that they're making its own games. John Carmack joined. Right? Yeah, recently. A few months ago. A Mac. The return of the Mac. So they're making their own games which I think is... To me... Carmack is there so you can make games. No, but it's very strange. It's very like... The Oculus was awesome last year. It's been a year. They did another one. They added some more like... We can track your head in more ways. It's more immersive. But there still is no reason to have one as far as I can tell. There has yet to be... Here's Addy checking it out. I think it does look more sensitive in terms of its awareness of your head location and responsiveness. I'm sure. But it's like... But why would you want... That's their big problem. They invented a technology that to me is just insane. It's the most like wild futuristic thing that I've seen in a long time. And I still kind of don't know why I want it which is disappointing. There isn't some killer app where it's like, oh my god, when you play this game using the Oculus Rift it'll change your whole idea about what gaming is like. I think the potential is so huge and their technology is so much better than anything that anybody else has shown off at a consumer level that you're like, well, that's gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. It just hasn't happened yet. And with Carmack on board and $75 million in the bank, which is what they just had a huge investment, it seems like they now have what they need to do that. But they need buy-in from other developers. They need a path to a consumer product. Right now it's awesome. I mean, we went crazy for it last year. We've been tracking it throughout the year. They've clearly become a real player. I mean, a very interesting hardware startup. But you need the games and you need support. I think support, you know, there are consoles that could support the Oculus Rift. I don't think Sony or Microsoft are gonna come out of the woodwork and be like, hey, we want to support your VR headset. But it could be done. I think the closest they're gonna get is Steam Machines. I don't want to get back into the Steam Machines conversation. Boy, what a lazy showing. Here's the thing with Oculus. They have the biggest problem, right? Which is you've got to give up all of the things you're used to to engage their platform. And the only reason you're gonna do that is if you get some insane benefit to doing it. Besides, this was weird and now I kind of have a headache. I don't know. I mean, if there was a really good zombie game you could play using the Oculus Rift that was like you were fully immersed in the world of zombies trying to eat the skin and flesh off of your bones. If there was an email client and I could just shoot emails with a gun, I'm thinking outside the box here. Why? Why not? You gotta try something new. You just look around. You know, it's weird because that's funny. You know why VR was invented, right? It was to kill email. No, I mean, the original invention of VR was, and by the way, somebody will probably correct me but I think I'm relatively right, Jaron Lanier, who's one of the creators of virtual reality, was needed... I might be mixing up a couple of different stories here, but my understanding is that the creation of VR was that it was used to look at extremely long integers or numbers and that you couldn't... A monitor couldn't do it. You had to keep scrolling back and forth and you need to be able to see the numbers at the beginning and the end or whatever or very large amounts of... He was like, how do I make the numbers? Numerical data so you'd be able to pan and go back and that's the reason, that's like the beginning of VR. Also, I could have just made that up. Yeah, that sounds completely insane. It's not. Can you check it out? I mean, what? Check out virtual reality. How do you do it? Wikipedia, search, virtual reality, slash... Why do I ever... Just tweet it, Josh, yes or no. Yeah, just tweet yes or no, Josh. Tweet yes or no, Josh. Do you believe the story about virtual reality? Let's see what happens. So the other thing that happens... Hashtag Virgcast. The other thing that happened today was MetaWatch just blew it as far as I can tell. I don't get this thing. MetaWatch gets the Virtue... Here's the new one. MetaWatch gets the Virtue designer. No, this makes complete sense to me. If you looked at Virtue phones, you're aware of Virtue phones. Of course, yeah. Super fancy. If you looked at those and then you're like, what if that guy made a watch? You would land right here. Well, I will say this, very expensive... It's like a steampunk smartwatch. That's what this looks like to me. Very expensive watches are on a regular basis totally offensive from a design standpoint. Like here's a $75,000 watch and it looks like a pile of ass cheeks. And not like sexy ass cheeks, bad ones. Yeah, pile of ass cheeks is like every other R. Kelly album cover. That's his new record. R. Kelly's pile of ass cheeks. I love that record. Very sexy stuff. It's definitely, by the way, the cover of his new record. Is it a pile of ass cheeks? Well, the... Yeah. Black panties. Black panties. Black panties. By the way, black panties, I'll bet probably the second most popular color of panties. White. White panties. Just tweet yes or no at Josh. Is that the most popular color of panties? What is the most popular panty color? Black or white? Where did we go? Let me ask you something. How did we get here? Are black panties always sexy? Another question I'd like to have answered. Reasonable people can do that. Where are we at with my virtual reality story? True or false? Does anybody know? A lot of nopes. Just nopes for days. If you just Wikipedia... If I invented that story, somebody should turn that into a mini-series on the Hallmark channel. The first mini-series of all time. Great. Old men trying to look for numbers. They would have been young men at the time. We're talking in the 80s. In 1986, 85. John, let's go to the lab so I can look at longer numbers. Just tell me about the creation of our history. It's the worst sequel to the real genius. You want to talk to the real genius? I'm looking. Oh my God. This is the worst. Here we go. Here we go. Pioneers and notables. I don't know what I'm doing. Come on. Can we not have Wikipedia on this? Wait a second. Wait a second. This is the worst. Can someone read that to me? I can't see it here. Do you remember when we used to always online shop on the Vergecast? This is a thousand times worse. It was popularized by Jaron Lanier. All right. Yeah. I think you took that off because it's too controversial that I'm right. We've done enough here. Yeah. Sounds like I'm totally 100% right and I didn't make that story up at all. Anyhow. All right. Boy, Vergecast. Vergecast and CS is really living up to its name. It's a real problem. What else? We never talked about the MetaWatch. We landed on Blackpanties and then we started reading Wikipedia. Do we have a result of the Blackpanties versus Whitepanties sexiness level? No, I'm sorry. Which is more popular than also are Blackpanties always sexy? We're still tabulating the results. A few counties are still out. I'm terrified to look at my Twitter. This will be Casey Newton's last day at the Verge. Flipping this gigantic table and leaving right after this. I had a wonderful time. Casey, would you say that this is what you expected? It was what I expected. All right. The MetaWatch. It's super ugly. Can you talk about it, Josh? Say some more. Me? Yeah, you. I was just checking Twitter. Just react to this photograph. I mean, if you wanted to make a smartwatch that typified everything you didn't want in a smartwatch and everything that scared you about the concept of smartwatches, I think MetaWatch knocked it out of the park. I think if they wanted to say to people who would never have bought a smartwatch in the first place, continue not buying these things, home run. Here's my new strategy for Vergecast and CS. Josh, react to this picture. That's all I have to do. Here's the one thing they got right. Nothing. Yeah. I mean, would you wear this? No, I would not wear that. It does not look like that much of an improvement from the little smartwatches that people would wear when I was in junior high. Just a lot of tiny little numbers. A lot of mistakes. A lot of mistakes. I mean, a lot of tweets right now. Very few about panties. That's a shame. Wait a second. I haven't hit that portion. Josh, let me ask you a question. You're not happy. You're unhappy, surprised, disappointed by that. What emotion are you feeling about your Twitter right now? Well, I just got to Tim Carmody, our good friend Tim Carmody, just favorited an RLRT about my vampiric paleness. Oh, God. You're so behind on your Twitter. No, no, no. I got to... This is... Okay. I don't know if you... Before every episode of the Vergecast, Josh and I have a tiny little lover's quarrel about whether or not he's allowed to have a laptop because he's not allowed to have a laptop. And what he hasn't said now is a series of ever-increasing, like, larger phones. Yeah, excuse me. I'm going to have the Galaxy Tab Pro. I don't even have 12-point... Like, no, it's on my phone. And then I'm going to put it down and I'm going to get the keyboard dock out and I'm going to have a laptop. No. You're going to pay the price. Slow, slow, Bernard. So, Josh, it's cool. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. No, I don't want to know any of the answers to any of these questions. Black. Although I know it's black. Yeah. Hold on. Wikipedia says no. Wikipedia has the answer to that question? No, yes, yes. I don't know what that means. Hold on. This one I really don't understand. Does anyone like to run by the trailer and cut the hard line? Is that just a picture of R. Kelly? Crying. 1920s vehicle sim. No long numbers. I don't know what that means. John, is there... If I were to say to you the phrase, cut the hard line, would that mean anything? The hard line. I'm done. Yeah, if it had an ax. Does anybody at CES have an ax? Yeah. Doc Brown. All right, Casey, how many CES have you been to? This is only my second CES. So this is different than last year. This is quite a bit different. But it's been great. I have to say, there's been enough that has been cool to keep me excited about what we're going to see the rest of the week. Yeah. I don't know if it's funny, but it's not funny. One lesson I wish I'd learned was don't drink an enormous thing of water right before you come on the VirgCast. Because after about an hour, you're feeling that. What's happening? Yeah. You're feeling like you just want to sneak off the stage. Let me tell you something. You're just trying to cheat out? I want to cheat out. I want to disappear. I want to melt off the world. See, I feel when I live-blog, once the adrenaline hits you... Of course, I don't know how much adrenaline was happening to the Yahoo! Live blog, probably not that much. But I find that when the adrenaline hits you, all worldly needs fade away. Go away. I was hoping for that. All earthly needs just slide off to the sides of your existence. And you're just in the zone. Just locked in. You're like a Formula 1 racer strapped into the... You had, I think, the best live event thus far of CES. It was the most fun to watch, I think. What was the John Legend stuff at the end? It seemed relatively deep and weird for the end of Aquino. He played three songs, which was like two more than I thought he would do. He started out with Here Comes the Sun, and it was really nice. And then he did two of his own, Green Light and All I Need, I think, is the name of the other one. It was great. Yeah. Well, there's hands. There's hands. We don't know whose hands that is. Underneath that wrist, there's a smartwatch. Yeah. There's a Meta watch. He's like, why did I buy this? It's so ugly. Yeah. I guess Meta watch, that's the person we can cross off the list for next year at CES that we'll be talking to. But listen, you know you guys make great products, and the Virtue guy, total slam dunk. Slam dunk. I think on that note, is there anything else we have to talk about? Really, I mean, I think... Where are we on time? Let me check my regular watch. Nothing Meta about this. Also not hideously ugly. I think we're good. What do you guys think? Should we wrap this up? Yeah, I got a thumbs up from... Really? And that, the rolling thing? Yeah. Is there a name for this? Please Stop. Yeah. No, this is like Wrap It Up, right? Yeah. You think Wrap It Up would be more like this? Like... That's... Okay, anyhow, that's the VirgCast for the second night, the second official night of CES Tuesday. And that was a series of mistakes that we recorded with the... That was 2014. The nice thing is, no matter what happened here... We're never putting it on iTunes. I think very few people... This is why it doesn't go on iTunes. We're not putting it on iTunes, and I like to think very few people were watching it. You're so wrong. It's the number one post on our site right now. Oh, oops. Well, shit happened. That's the VirgCast. That's CES. That's the VirgCast at CES on Tuesday night, day two, as we like to call it. Day one. Day five. Day six. Day six. We'll be back. We'll be back. Should I say... Oh, yeah, you could follow... Whatever. You know how you could follow us. You're watching this. If you stuck with us to this point, you have a disease. We'll be back tomorrow night with more VirgCast-y goodness. Also tomorrow morning, really? Are we doing first again? Yeah. Okay. Tomorrow morning, Ross Miller and I will be doing first, the only show you need early in the morning at CES. And we're gonna be talking about these exact same topics, but not drunk, so you may actually get some information out of them. And then we'll have another VirgCast. Let me ask you a question. And it's another yes or no. Who are you asking this to? The group here or out there? I'll just ask you. Are you stupider when you're drunk or sleepy? Drunk. Okay. Oh, uh... Josh is like, both. I mean, what do you mean stupider? I'm real dumb when I'm sleepy. I think that I... I can fake it real good when I'm drunk. I guess I'd have to say... A lot of head shaking in the studio right now. I guess I'd have to say sleepy, because when I drink, I feel like I'm just a more awesome, elevated version of myself. That's how you feel. No, I don't know what everybody else experiences. I'm sure it's terrible, but that's not my problem. I'm drunk. Anyhow. Good night. Hold on a second. That's the VirgCast. Poor Casey. We'll be back tomorrow night. No, Casey's laughing. I'm loving it. Look at that. Wow. As always, I wish you and your family the very best, even though they've all been given Meta Watches as gifts. | [
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"text": " Is cozy gambling a thing?"
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"text": " Like there's a fire roaring."
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"text": " You're wearing a fuzzy shirt."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And they roll over a slot machine with a gold leather, like a hand, a gold thing with a"
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"text": " You're watching your favorite movie."
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"text": " Instead of going very fast, it's very slow."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " No, that doesn't exist."
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"text": " Well."
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"text": " Anyhow, so we had a big day today."
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"text": " So we should start..."
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"text": " I mean, the day..."
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"text": " I'm trying to look at all the news that happened here."
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"text": " I'm already overwhelmed that I want to kill myself."
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"text": " Is it John Leisure or John Legere?"
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"text": " Are you saying like John Leisure?"
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"text": " You think he's the kind of guy who has rules?"
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"text": " I think the most shocking part of this whole story is that he's a dork who still does the"
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"text": " bunny ears in the photo."
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"text": " With Roger Jett."
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"text": " It's true."
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"text": " All right, Eddie, I'll go on."
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"text": " Anyway, but he has a big..."
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"text": " By the way, it's Macklemore."
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"text": " Macklemore?"
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"text": " I say Macklemore, but it's apparently Macklemore."
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"text": " Do you know this?"
},
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"text": " Carry on."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Go ahead."
},
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"text": " So that was that."
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"text": " That's right."
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"text": " You're right."
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"text": " Who's sadly on his way out."
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"text": " Who just looks scared."
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"text": " You can name anything right now and people would be like, yeah, that happened."
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"text": " It's cool."
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"text": " Well, yeah, but PlayStation now works."
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"text": " This life, what is it called?"
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"end": 436.12,
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"text": " No, it's, where is it?"
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"text": " I have it."
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"text": " That's pretty close."
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"text": " Life Space Ux?"
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"text": " So Sony has all these crazy laser projectors that only need basically a little over two"
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"text": " It looks like kind of like my air conditioning unit."
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"text": " I was surprisingly-"
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"text": " So that whole white thing is the unit?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " So it's gonna be like $15,000."
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"text": " Stuff that isn't live TV, which is readily available for everybody."
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"text": " It's a, I mean, nobody has the answer and he's probably lying."
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"text": " Like ABC is gonna give them their ABC channel and do live."
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"text": " Wait, hold on."
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"text": " Right, but let me just offer you a problem."
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"text": " But he made a point."
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"text": " Like here it is."
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"text": " You're Sony, right?"
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"text": " And you wanna start this stuff and they're like, man, table stakes to get television"
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"text": " to people."
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"text": " We need the big networks."
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"text": " Okay, let's go to a tap tape."
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"text": " Oh, we should go talk to NBC."
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"text": " Comcast."
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"text": " You know where you just hit the brick wall and you're done."
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"text": " Like that's the end of that."
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"text": " Sounds to me like a little bit of a monopoly."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Okay, but here's the thing."
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"text": " Nobody watches any of those stations anymore."
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"text": " No, they're the vast majority of the watchers."
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"text": " Have you ever watched Two and a Half Men?"
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"text": " Religious group."
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"text": " You're into it."
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"text": " But it's super hard for these hardware companies to offer services, right?"
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"text": " Wait, hold on, let's get to that."
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"text": " It was like a decade, you know?"
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"text": " What you want is crappy pictures."
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"text": " That's all I want in life."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I almost, I almost gave it away."
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"text": " Go ahead."
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"text": " The camera adds 10 pounds and also a slight vampire effect."
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"text": " A werewolf."
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"text": " Like cleaned up, he announced one Sony."
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"text": " Which is like clearly Sony was on the cutting edge of television technology for the longest"
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"text": " We also went to LG where I texted a washing machine and a stove."
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"text": " What did you text it?"
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"text": " And then the washing machine texts you back like, I wish I was free, which is hilarious."
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"text": " You know what?"
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"text": " They're probably going to bring out like, some of the laserdisc player next."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Blu-ray, Blu-ray laserdisc."
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"text": " Can you imagine how much content you could fit on a size of a laserdisc?"
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"text": " Yeah, a BluDisc."
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"text": " So let's talk about what really happens to me."
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"text": " Casey?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " The Yahoo keynote."
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"text": " Reverse, what's reverse laughing?"
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"text": " It's FOF, I believe it's called."
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"text": " Oh yeah, FOF."
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"text": " What happened?"
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"text": " Thank you very much."
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"text": " Hey, here are some people from Saturday Night Live."
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"text": " Did that happen?"
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"text": " That did, yeah."
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"text": " Where was I?"
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"text": " So, you know, Yahoo owns the Saturday Night Live library and they stream it to their apps"
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"text": " Totally-"
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"text": " Like, they delivered a line and it was like just silence."
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"text": " That's how Marissa Meyer pronounced it."
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"text": " And then there was just dead silence."
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"text": " David Pogue."
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"text": " No, no, I get it."
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"text": " Yeah, they closed up shop."
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"text": " What's the point anymore?"
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"text": " Some of the worst photo shopping as well."
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"text": " Also, by the way, this new, this, listen, let me tell you guys something."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Our, our word mark is a altered font."
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"text": " Is that like, what, is that Futura?"
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"text": " What are we looking at?"
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"text": " Could somebody tweet the you font at us?"
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"text": " He drew, he literally drew an orange square and then erased it into the shit."
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"text": " And the most important part of what he presented, it was fucking wrong."
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"text": " And I have to say, like, you know, I didn't take to Twitter and say anything about it."
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"text": " I mean, frankly, everybody else on Twitter handled it for me."
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"text": " But it was like, I would describe it as like a relatively odious presentation."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " But what was it like in the room?"
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"text": " But he's wrong."
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"text": " But here's what I think."
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"text": " But he's wrong."
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"text": " He's wrong about America."
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"text": " I agree."
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"text": " He's wrong about how people understand technology."
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"text": " And what he did was insulting to people rather than inclusive and exciting to people."
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"text": " That's my opinion."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " So but here's, because here's another drink."
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"text": " Yeah, I also, can I have another tiny beverage, please?"
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"text": " Just unrelated to Pogue."
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"text": " Can we just get a pitcher or something?"
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"text": " Can we get a pitcher of vodka?"
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"text": " So here's my question."
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"text": " So yeah."
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"text": " So there's been kind of a theory, a meme out there that Marissa Meyer, she came in, she"
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"text": " There was an app we covered today, a news stream."
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"text": " Yeah, News Digest."
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"text": " I wanted to hear the mood in the room."
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"text": " Yeah, I'm getting to that."
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"text": " Which I think is very actually innovative."
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"text": " It has some problems, but like it looks beautiful."
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"text": " So what was it like?"
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"text": " And also just sounded like not in touch with what's happening."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " I mean, I think it was a bold move to go after the tech blogs, the tech sites, tech publications"
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"text": " And in fact, some Yahoo people came up to me afterwards and were like, are you okay?"
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"text": " And I was like, yeah, I think I can deal with this burn."
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"text": " The most minor of burns."
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"text": " Right, right."
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"text": " So, you know, certainly it made us think about David Pogue a certain way."
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"text": " But, you know, as far as the mood in the room, prior to him, it had been sort of a little"
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"text": " bit chilly, a little bit staid."
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"text": " It had been sort of Katie Couric talking to Marissa Meyer and sort of like polite hugs"
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"text": " and air kisses."
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"text": " And then David Pogue comes out and sort of goes into stand up comic mode and he's trying"
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"text": " to get laughs and he's talking loud and he's like punching his lines."
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"text": " He was doing some some aces stuff, Johnny Shih."
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"text": " Like the the hardcore emphasis."
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"text": " Yeah, but everybody loves Johnny Shih."
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"text": " Well, yeah, I know he's awesome."
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"text": " But I'm just saying it was like the."
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"text": " Okay, thank you."
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"text": " Thank you."
},
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"text": " Wonderful man."
},
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"text": " Hey, I got beer for you guys."
},
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"text": " Hey, thanks."
},
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"text": " I'm taking it personally."
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"text": " Screw this tiny cup."
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"text": " Yeah, just drink out of the."
},
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"text": " Oh, you're going for the you're doing the tiny."
},
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"text": " Oh, boy."
},
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"text": " Casey's got manners."
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"text": " Drink up and then tell us what you really think."
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"text": " I think it's so tiny and brown."
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"text": " Sorry, Casey."
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"text": " No, no, no, no."
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"text": " What else happened?"
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"text": " Can we talk about the self-discovery?"
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"text": " Oh, my God."
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"text": " That's uncanny."
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"text": " Can we photoshop Tim Cook's head back a little further?"
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"text": " That's uncanny."
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"text": " Yeah, actually, it kind of works as Dave Grohl is in that."
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"text": " Why did your husband die in Las Vegas?"
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"text": " Well, he began choking on a beer when he gazed upon Dave Grohl's neck in a two-year-old photo."
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"text": " Can you zoom in on that?"
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"text": " Can you brighten it?"
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"text": " All right, Casey, what else happened?"
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"text": " Well, do we want to talk about this NewsDidist app?"
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"text": " Because it's interesting in this very specific way, right?"
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"text": " So the kid Nick."
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"text": " D'Alioso."
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"text": " I believe it was Gizmodo."
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"text": " Not before Gawker publicly shamed a 15-year-old, which to me is reprehensible on several levels,"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I just kind of just say 15-year-olds are the worst, okay?"
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"text": " They do tear."
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"text": " You didn't grow up in Pittsburgh, I guess."
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"text": " That's right."
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"text": " That's fucking right."
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"text": " That's right."
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"text": " Sorry, Casey."
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"text": " Yeah, so here's why I think this app is interesting."
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"text": " We're talking about Yahoo News Digest."
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"text": " That's not it."
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"text": " No, this is Yahoo Tech, which is an endless stream, right?"
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"text": " So it's totally to my point."
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"text": " Do they still use the exclamation point?"
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"text": " Okay, if you have it, show it."
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"text": " Show it to me."
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"text": " We've got something really special for you."
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"text": " If our video guys aren't here."
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"text": " This is where the promise of tonight's Virgcast comes true."
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"text": " All right, what else happened today?"
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"text": " Oh, god."
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"text": " Wasn't Crystal Cove where Murder She Wrote took place?"
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"text": " That sounds like the kind of thing that the Oculus Rift did."
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"text": " You know what?"
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"text": " It was Cabot Cove."
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"text": " I apologize."
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"text": " What's Crystal Cove?"
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"text": " Crystal Cove."
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"text": " Crystal Cove is like where you go to live out the rest of your days."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " In a really nice condo."
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"text": " It sounds to me like Crystal Lake."
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"text": " It's not."
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"text": " I mean, what?"
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"text": " Check out virtual reality."
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"text": " Yeah, just tweet yes or no, Josh."
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"text": " Let's see what happens."
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"text": " So the other thing that happens..."
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"text": " Hashtag Virgcast."
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"text": " The other thing that happened today was MetaWatch just blew it as far as I can tell."
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"text": " Here's the new one."
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"text": " No, this makes complete sense to me."
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"text": " If you looked at Virtue phones, you're aware of Virtue phones."
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"text": " Of course, yeah."
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"text": " Super fancy."
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"text": " If you looked at those and then you're like, what if that guy made a watch?"
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"text": " You would land right here."
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"text": " Very expensive watches are on a regular basis totally offensive from a design standpoint."
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"text": " Like here's a $75,000 watch and it looks like a pile of ass cheeks."
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"text": " And not like sexy ass cheeks, bad ones."
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"text": " Yeah, pile of ass cheeks is like every other R. Kelly album cover."
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"text": " That's his new record."
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"text": " R. Kelly's pile of ass cheeks."
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"text": " Very sexy stuff."
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"text": " Black panties."
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"text": " Black panties."
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"text": " Black panties."
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"text": " By the way, black panties, I'll bet probably the second most popular color of panties."
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"text": " White."
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"text": " White panties."
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"text": " Just tweet yes or no at Josh."
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"text": " Is that the most popular color of panties?"
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"text": " What is the most popular panty color?"
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"text": " Black or white?"
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"end": 3100.96,
"text": " Where did we go?"
},
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"text": " Let me ask you something."
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"end": 3102.96,
"text": " How did we get here?"
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"text": " Are black panties always sexy?"
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"text": " Another question I'd like to have answered."
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"text": " Reasonable people can do that."
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"text": " Where are we at with my virtual reality story?"
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"text": " True or false?"
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"text": " Does anybody know?"
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"text": " A lot of nopes."
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"text": " Just nopes for days."
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"text": " If you just Wikipedia..."
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"text": " If I invented that story, somebody should turn that into a mini-series on the Hallmark"
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"text": " channel."
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"text": " The first mini-series of all time."
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"text": " Great."
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"text": " Old men trying to look for numbers."
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"text": " They would have been young men at the time."
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"text": " We're talking in the 80s."
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"text": " In 1986, 85."
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"text": " John, let's go to the lab so I can look at longer numbers."
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"text": " Just tell me about the creation of our history."
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"end": 3136.1,
"text": " It's the worst sequel to the real genius."
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"text": " You want to talk to the real genius?"
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"text": " I'm looking."
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"text": " Oh my God."
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"text": " This is the worst."
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"end": 3141.1,
"text": " Here we go."
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"end": 3142.1,
"text": " Here we go."
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"text": " Pioneers and notables."
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"text": " Come on."
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"text": " Can we not have Wikipedia on this?"
},
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"text": " Wait a second."
},
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"text": " Wait a second."
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"text": " This is the worst."
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"text": " Can someone read that to me?"
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"text": " I can't see it here."
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"text": " Do you remember when we used to always online shop on the Vergecast?"
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"text": " This is a thousand times worse."
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"text": " It was popularized by Jaron Lanier."
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"text": " All right."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I think you took that off because it's too controversial that I'm right."
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"text": " We've done enough here."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Sounds like I'm totally 100% right and I didn't make that story up at all."
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"text": " Anyhow."
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"text": " All right."
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"text": " Boy, Vergecast."
},
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"text": " Vergecast and CS is really living up to its name."
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{
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"text": " What else?"
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"text": " We never talked about the MetaWatch."
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"text": " We landed on Blackpanties and then we started reading Wikipedia."
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{
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"text": " Do we have a result of the Blackpanties versus Whitepanties sexiness level?"
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{
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"text": " No, I'm sorry."
},
{
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"text": " Which is more popular than also are Blackpanties always sexy?"
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"text": " We're still tabulating the results."
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"text": " A few counties are still out."
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"text": " I'm terrified to look at my Twitter."
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"text": " This will be Casey Newton's last day at the Verge."
},
{
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"text": " Flipping this gigantic table and leaving right after this."
},
{
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"text": " I had a wonderful time."
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"text": " Casey, would you say that this is what you expected?"
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"text": " It was what I expected."
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"text": " The MetaWatch."
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"text": " It's super ugly."
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"text": " Can you talk about it, Josh?"
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"text": " Say some more."
},
{
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"text": " Me?"
},
{
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"text": " Yeah, you."
},
{
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"text": " I was just checking Twitter."
},
{
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"text": " Just react to this photograph."
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"text": " I mean, if you wanted to make a smartwatch that typified everything you didn't want in"
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"text": " I think if they wanted to say to people who would never have bought a smartwatch in the"
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"text": " first place, continue not buying these things, home run."
},
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"text": " Here's my new strategy for Vergecast and CS."
},
{
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"text": " Josh, react to this picture."
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"text": " That's all I have to do."
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"text": " Nothing."
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"text": " I mean, would you wear this?"
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"text": " No, I would not wear that."
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"text": " It does not look like that much of an improvement from the little smartwatches that people would"
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{
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},
{
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},
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"text": " A lot of mistakes."
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"text": " I mean, a lot of tweets right now."
},
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"text": " Very few about panties."
},
{
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"text": " That's a shame."
},
{
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"text": " Wait a second."
},
{
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"text": " I haven't hit that portion."
},
{
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"text": " Josh, let me ask you a question."
},
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"text": " You're not happy."
},
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"text": " You're unhappy, surprised, disappointed by that."
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{
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"text": " What emotion are you feeling about your Twitter right now?"
},
{
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"text": " Well, I just got to Tim Carmody, our good friend Tim Carmody, just favorited an RLRT"
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{
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"text": " about my vampiric paleness."
},
{
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"text": " Oh, God."
},
{
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},
{
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"text": " No, no, no."
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{
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},
{
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"text": " Okay."
},
{
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"text": " I don't know if you..."
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{
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"text": " Before every episode of the Vergecast, Josh and I have a tiny little lover's quarrel about"
},
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"text": " whether or not he's allowed to have a laptop because he's not allowed to have a laptop."
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"text": " And what he hasn't said now is a series of ever-increasing, like, larger phones."
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"text": " Yeah, excuse me."
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"text": " I'm going to have the Galaxy Tab Pro."
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{
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"text": " Like, no, it's on my phone."
},
{
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"text": " And then I'm going to put it down and I'm going to get the keyboard dock out and I'm"
},
{
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"text": " No."
},
{
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"text": " You're going to pay the price."
},
{
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"text": " Slow, slow, Bernard."
},
{
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"text": " So, Josh, it's cool."
},
{
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"text": " Wait a second."
},
{
"start": 3322.1600000000003,
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"text": " Wait a second."
},
{
"start": 3323.1600000000003,
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"text": " Wait a second."
},
{
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"text": " No, I don't want to know any of the answers to any of these questions."
},
{
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},
{
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"text": " Although I know it's black."
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{
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"text": " Yeah."
},
{
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"text": " Hold on."
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"text": " Wikipedia says no."
},
{
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"text": " Wikipedia has the answer to that question?"
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"text": " No, yes, yes."
},
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"text": " I don't know what that means."
},
{
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"text": " Hold on."
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"text": " This one I really don't understand."
},
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"text": " Does anyone like to run by the trailer and cut the hard line?"
},
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"text": " Is that just a picture of R. Kelly?"
},
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"text": " Crying."
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"text": " 1920s vehicle sim."
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{
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"text": " No long numbers."
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"text": " I don't know what that means."
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"text": " John, is there..."
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"text": " If I were to say to you the phrase, cut the hard line, would that mean anything?"
},
{
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"text": " The hard line."
},
{
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"text": " I'm done."
},
{
"start": 3354.48,
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"text": " Yeah, if it had an ax."
},
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"text": " Does anybody at CES have an ax?"
},
{
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " Doc Brown."
},
{
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"text": " All right, Casey, how many CES have you been to?"
},
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"text": " This is only my second CES."
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"text": " So this is different than last year."
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"text": " This is quite a bit different."
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"text": " But it's been great."
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"text": " I have to say, there's been enough that has been cool to keep me excited about what we're"
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},
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " I don't know if it's funny, but it's not funny."
},
{
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"text": " One lesson I wish I'd learned was don't drink an enormous thing of water right before you"
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"text": " come on the VirgCast."
},
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"text": " Because after about an hour, you're feeling that."
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"text": " What's happening?"
},
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " You're feeling like you just want to sneak off the stage."
},
{
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"text": " Let me tell you something."
},
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"text": " You're just trying to cheat out?"
},
{
"start": 3390.28,
"end": 3391.28,
"text": " I want to cheat out."
},
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"text": " I want to disappear."
},
{
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"text": " I want to melt off the world."
},
{
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"text": " See, I feel when I live-blog, once the adrenaline hits you..."
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"text": " Of course, I don't know how much adrenaline was happening to the Yahoo!"
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"text": " Live blog, probably not that much."
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"text": " But I find that when the adrenaline hits you, all worldly needs fade away."
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"text": " Go away."
},
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"text": " I was hoping for that."
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"text": " All earthly needs just slide off to the sides of your existence."
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"text": " Just locked in."
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"text": " What was the John Legend stuff at the end?"
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"text": " It seemed relatively deep and weird for the end of Aquino."
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"text": " He played three songs, which was like two more than I thought he would do."
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"text": " He started out with Here Comes the Sun, and it was really nice."
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"text": " other one."
},
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},
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " Well, there's hands."
},
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"text": " There's hands."
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"text": " We don't know whose hands that is."
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"text": " Underneath that wrist, there's a smartwatch."
},
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " There's a Meta watch."
},
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"text": " He's like, why did I buy this?"
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"text": " It's so ugly."
},
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"text": " Yeah."
},
{
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"text": " I guess Meta watch, that's the person we can cross off the list for next year at CES"
},
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"text": " that we'll be talking to."
},
{
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"text": " But listen, you know you guys make great products, and the Virtue guy, total slam dunk."
},
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"text": " Slam dunk."
},
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"text": " I think on that note, is there anything else we have to talk about?"
},
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"text": " Really, I mean, I think..."
},
{
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"text": " Where are we on time?"
},
{
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"text": " Let me check my regular watch."
},
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"text": " Nothing Meta about this."
},
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"text": " Also not hideously ugly."
},
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"text": " I think we're good."
},
{
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"text": " What do you guys think?"
},
{
"start": 3474.12,
"end": 3475.12,
"text": " Should we wrap this up?"
},
{
"start": 3475.12,
"end": 3476.52,
"text": " Yeah, I got a thumbs up from..."
},
{
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"text": " Really?"
},
{
"start": 3477.52,
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"text": " And that, the rolling thing?"
},
{
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"end": 3479.52,
"text": " Yeah."
},
{
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"text": " Is there a name for this?"
},
{
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"text": " Please Stop."
},
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"start": 3482.3199999999997,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " No, this is like Wrap It Up, right?"
},
{
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " You think Wrap It Up would be more like this?"
},
{
"start": 3487.56,
"end": 3488.56,
"text": " Like..."
},
{
"start": 3488.56,
"end": 3489.56,
"text": " That's..."
},
{
"start": 3489.56,
"end": 3494.24,
"text": " Okay, anyhow, that's the VirgCast for the second night, the second official night of"
},
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"text": " CES Tuesday."
},
{
"start": 3496.64,
"end": 3498.8799999999997,
"text": " And that was a series of mistakes that we recorded with the..."
},
{
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"end": 3499.88,
"text": " That was 2014."
},
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"end": 3504.6800000000003,
"text": " The nice thing is, no matter what happened here..."
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"text": " We're never putting it on iTunes."
},
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"text": " I think very few people..."
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"text": " This is why it doesn't go on iTunes."
},
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"text": " We're not putting it on iTunes, and I like to think very few people were watching it."
},
{
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"text": " You're so wrong."
},
{
"start": 3513.12,
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"text": " It's the number one post on our site right now."
},
{
"start": 3515.92,
"end": 3516.92,
"text": " Oh, oops."
},
{
"start": 3516.92,
"end": 3519.12,
"text": " Well, shit happened."
},
{
"start": 3519.12,
"end": 3520.12,
"text": " That's the VirgCast."
},
{
"start": 3520.12,
"end": 3521.12,
"text": " That's CES."
},
{
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"text": " That's the VirgCast at CES on Tuesday night, day two, as we like to call it."
},
{
"start": 3525.96,
"end": 3526.96,
"text": " Day one."
},
{
"start": 3526.96,
"end": 3527.96,
"text": " Day five."
},
{
"start": 3527.96,
"end": 3528.96,
"text": " Day six."
},
{
"start": 3528.96,
"end": 3529.96,
"text": " Day six."
},
{
"start": 3529.96,
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"text": " We'll be back."
},
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"text": " We'll be back."
},
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"text": " Should I say..."
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Would you say this is one of the easiest ways to actually buy Bitcoin? Right. Well we designed it to be the easiest way to get Bitcoin. So we put a lot of thought on how to make it as accessible as possible, how to make it as simple as possible and we developed this machine from the ground up to make it super simple. So it really is three steps. You just scan in your QR code so the machine knows where to send the Bitcoin, you put in your cash and you press send and then they appear on your phone. Got it. And then three months later you're a millionaire. Well yeah, exactly. That's what's been going on so far. What is the price of Bitcoin right now? Well right now the price of Bitcoin is about $9.50. Okay and we're looking at this on the machine here. So right, so when it says our current Bitcoin price is, this would be the price of whatever the operator is charging. So the price could be $9.50 and he could be taking a small percentage on top of that for the convenience fee. I see. And the operator is the corner store bodega or wherever it is that has installed the Bitcoin machine just like an ATM. Right, exactly. The one who bought the machine and installed it and then he gets the cash and then he sends his Bitcoins or connects to an exchange to do it for him. And you guys have actually sold these. They're placed, how many have you sold? Well we've sold over 130 so far and they're just starting to go live. So we have one in Helsinki, Finland in a record store in the largest train station. We have them in Bratislava, Slovakia, Melbourne, Australia and then we're going to have a bunch of them in Canada, US, Australia. All of Europe, Japan, China, Kyrgyzstan. Any in Vegas? Not yet, hopefully. Maybe a Bitcoin slot machine would be better for Vegas? Maybe this time next year, yeah they'll be all around here. The strip will be filled with Bitcoin machines. So pretty soon people will be able to actually go to those machines in those locations and use them. Right, well they already are wherever they're live, people can just go there at any point. So some of them are live already. Right, the ones in Finland and Slovakia and Australia are live and in the coming weeks a lot more will start going live. I think they'll really start popping up like mushrooms all over. And by spring when all of the 130 plus machines get out there, that's when it'll really be exciting for us. We'll know that in lots of major cities and some less major cities, people will just be able to go and get Bitcoin immediately anywhere. At the mall? Exactly. We have had some malls contact us. So that would be interesting in different countries. Teens buying Bitcoin? Well, they can. I mean they can take their allowance money and put in five bucks and use it to buy things online. I think that's a great use of your allowance, teens. So let's talk about the hardware a little bit. How much does this thing weigh? Well this thing weighs about 110 pounds, 45 kilos. They're made in Portugal so that's how we measure them. It's a lot heavier than our prototype because our prototype didn't have the interior vault. And once we installed the interior vault, it made everything a lot heavier because that's 6 millimeter armored Swedish steel that we chose for the protection of the cache itself. So that made the machine a lot heavier. We also made the steel itself thicker on the machine. So that's a lot of stuff that after we first presented the machine in San Jose, we kind of went back to the drawing board a bit and said, okay, this is going to be installed everywhere. We have to make sure that these machines are extremely robust, that they're over-engineered for smash and grab proof and even basically as secure as an ATM, a standard ATM would be. And I think we feel pretty comfortable with that right now. And San Jose, that was the Bitcoin conference in, was that March? It was May. May, okay. Things happen really fast in the Bitcoin world. Okay. So this thing has been out for a while but it's just now going live. Right. So that was our prototype. So it wasn't actually out there yet. We only started accepting pre-orders in August and that's when we had finished this design. So when we felt good about this design and we knew that we could manufacture it in a timely manner, that's when we started accepting pre-orders and that was in August. And we've already shipped out, I would say about 15 and another almost 30 are going out next week. Cool. And so the other thing that strikes me about this is that it is, it looks nice. Like a lot of Bitcoin services and products put design secondary. That's just the nature of the community. People are a lot more engineering and not as designing and this is like very sleek looking and the interface is nice and you guys are actually still working on the software. You said you just pushed an update for it. Right. Well, right. We're always improving the software. This is still an early stage of the software and there are always things to improve and added functionality and new ideas that we have that we really want to implement. So we're always changing that and it's something that's really easy with this machine to just either push updates or have people download them. And so as Bitcoin gains more adoption, I mean the price has been going crazy. It's been all over the mainstream news. It's been on CNN, CNBC. You've probably done some interviews. I know you've done Bloomberg News. You've probably done interviews with a lot of the main networks. It seems like usability is an important thing to get right if it's ever going to really be something that most people use or understand. Right. And I think there are some services that are doing a really great job of that like BitPay that we use that make it really easy for merchants to use Bitcoin and makes it really easy for us to sign up our merch, the suppliers that we work for Bitcoin. We pay 90% of our suppliers with Bitcoin. Really? And we do that because using BitPay. We just sign them up all to BitPay. They're like, I don't know what Bitcoin is. It's like, here's BitPay. And what's BitPay exactly? BitPay is a service that makes it incredibly easy for a merchant to accept Bitcoin without having to deal with it if he doesn't want to. And then if he wants to only deal with 10% of it, like get 10% in Bitcoin and 90% directly in cash to his bank account, he can do that as well. So even people that are a little concerned about Bitcoin or holding it or don't know where to store it, if we tell them, listen, we'd really prefer to pay with Bitcoin, but it will go directly to your bank account. And it's hard for them to say no to that when they pay less than wires or credit cards. We even signed up the manufacturer of our bill validators, which are a huge publicly traded company in Japan. And we signed them up to BitPay. And that makes life a lot easier for us because we can just pay everyone in Bitcoin. And we accept payment for our machine using BitPay for Bitcoin. Great. So in order to do a demonstration, we convinced our director, editor, John Lagomarsino, to invest $2 in this exciting new virtual currency. Maybe we should say what Bitcoin is. What's your favorite way of explaining Bitcoin? I have my own way, which I repeat in every single one of my articles. But how do you explain it? Well, I think the easiest way to explain it for people in two words is internet money. Because people kind of understand that when they had letters back in the day and you had to write them on paper and put them in an envelope and send them out, and now you have emails and it's just internet kind of letters, that it's immediate. And the same thing with Bitcoin. It's you kind of get rid of all the middlemen and everything around. And it just makes it really simple to send money anywhere from one person to another. There you go. All right. So John is going to invest $2 in Bitcoin. And so can you walk us through? We also have his phone here. Can you walk us through the Bitcoin ATM machine? Yes. All right. Thank you. So the first thing is we press start and we scan in the Bitcoin address to the machine. And now we have his address here, which now everyone can send him money. Great. We're doing $2. One. As soon as we're ready. So how many Bitcoins is that? So this is 2.07 milli Bitcoin. That's how much you're going to get for your $2 at the current rate of $954.76. Right. But that's going to double by the end of next week. Of course. Right. We'll have $4. Great. And when we're ready, if you'd like, you can send the Bitcoins. Okay. I'm sending you Bitcoins, John. All right. It says your Bitcoins are on their way. And how long does this usually take? It's done. It's done. All right. And if you want to verify it, you can go back to the phone. Do you see a little green thing that says? Yep, it says receiving 2.06999 milli BTC. That's it. They're on their way. All right. Let me show that. Great. All right. Well, that was the Bitcoin machine. Also commonly called the Bitcoin ATM machine. Thank you so much for stopping by. All right. With you ever show has as I | [
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And everyone loved the product and the idea and the theories of the operating system. And then a lot of stuff happened. And now you're relaunching WebOS here as a TV product, which is, I don't think anybody could have predicted that when Palm originally introduced WebOS here. What's it like to sort of relaunch a product like this? Yeah, it's great. The feeling that we've worked on it for so long and finally being able to show it to the public and also explaining to people why we thought WebOS makes sense on a TV. So, that was one of the questions that people always ask is, why are you doing a TV? It makes total sense once you understand that TVs are about switching. TVs are about doing one thing, one minute, and then doing something else. And WebOS always struggled with bringing the message of why multitasking is important to the public. But people multitask all the time on TV, they just don't call it that way, they just switch. And that was the core, and that was the thing that we realized, and that's why we're so excited about bringing it to TVs. So, the number one thing you switch on TV is channels, right? Like live television channels. Because that's where content is. But you want to switch between the game you're watching and maybe something on Netflix if it's boring, and then you're done, you want to go somewhere else, this is what you're switching. And then you might want to go back and check in what's happening on TV. So, yes, you are switching channels, but you're also, the more we talk about over-the-top content, you're going to switch between different sources. And so, the WebOS on TV, you try and treat all sources as sort of equal citizens, they're all just inputs, right? So you can switch between Netflix or your HDMI 1 or your Xbox on HDMI 3 or whatever it is. But the TV input is a really complicated one, because there's cable boxes, and they've got their own UI for navigating channels, there's live TV, there's DVRs. So, it makes really good sense for understanding how I'm going to switch across that line, past, present, and future, between Netflix and Hulu. But I'm wondering, that simple line, if you guys are trying to make it very simple, how are you dealing with the very complex world of everything else that's happening with channels on TV? Sure thing. So let me give some thoughts there. There's really three things we need to solve. First is control, then discovery, then integration. So let me talk about each one. So, obviously if you have a TV set-top box or something like that, you need ways to control it. And a metric remote control actually comes with an IR blaster built in. And so, as you set up our TV and we recognize your set-top box, or you tell us what set-top box you have, we actually have a way to make sure that you're using one remote control to control your set-top boxes, so you're not swapping remotes. Right, but you are swapping UIs, right? So you've got the WebOS UI, which is the beautiful, well-designed interface that I want to use, which is beautiful in all design. And then you've got your cable blocks, which is awful. And you're using the same remote to control both of them. Did you guys think about that stuff, or did you say, look, that problem is too hard, let's do the best job of solving the problems we can? So how we're solving that is through the discovery component. So you really have a lot of content you can watch. That's across your over-the-top content as well as your live TV. And we come up with various ways to harmonize this. So if you look at our Today menu, for example, you can actually discover content across live TV and your streaming content. So you could, of course, choose to go to your set-top box and to the EPG to find out this data, but we're trying to integrate this and to help users out with the discovery aspect as well by making sure that from a metadata standpoint, we have this complete set of metadata, and for modeling this metadata to various user experiences, which help users break down the barriers between what you can watch on live TV and what you can stream. So we're outlining the challenges that need to be solved. And the question I've always had since LG purchased WebOS was, why do you need WebOS to solve these problems? Because every TV manufacturer here knows these challenges, right? There's discovery, there's so much content now, there's so many sources of the content, the content's different, like Netflix and Hulu have different things, then there's the cable box and there's DVR you can't even talk to. But what is it about WebOS that makes it different? So we said one thing was it's about switching. Switching is super cool, and you can see that we're sub one second right now. You can switch between things, and that's great, and it feels great, and it feels right. But WebOS is a philosophy more than anything else. It is an operating system, but it's a feeling. It's mostly a thought. You know what I mean. Well, actually, when people think of WebOS, they think of that card interface, right? So translating that is weird. I mean, on TV, it's not about apps. It's about content. And what we as LG want to make sure is that content is available to everybody, not in closed gardens. Closed gardens, I buy it here, I can't watch it there. I want everything to be available on the web all the time. And in that respect, WebOS is the best thing for that. We want everybody to build HTML5 apps. We want to make sure that HTML is a first-class citizen in all the devices. And once all our partners build things for the web, they're available everywhere. And that's the right path for this industry, and that's what LG wanted to do. They really wanted to make sure that they have the ability to continue innovating as a hardware-based company and making sure that software and the web are available for everybody. That way, you push content to everybody. Here's a really weird question. Do you have a browser on this TV? Yep. A web browser? So that has never, as far as I can tell, that has never truly worked on a television, right? It's almost like you have a browser because you're betting so big on HTML5 that you can just have one because it's going to be there, right? What is it about the browser on the television that's never worked? But then, what is it about HTML5 that works so well? It's a strange question because Google bets so big on the browser with Google TV, right? It fell down completely for them because nobody wants a browser on their TV. But I see the bet on HTML5 as an app platform for television as being really smart. I can't quite figure out why. Do you guys think about this stuff? Yeah. So I can start, and then Colin has some other thoughts. So what's the usage scene here? So you come home, you click and then browse and CNN. You don't want to go through the... It's not the same thing as a browser. And we have browsers on TV today because there is some sort of segment of people that actually want to do that, but it's not the core. You'll see we're not promoting that. The difference is that apps can be optimized for the TV, and they can be placed at a different, so much more accessible place in the browser where you have to go and start typing and going through all that. Essentially, WebOS is the browser. That is the browser. That is the chrome of a browser. It allows you to switch between tabs, cards, call them whatever you want. It's the same thing. It's accessing the web. It's just WebOS is the browser. Yeah. I think it's kind of about double-clicking on the statement, making something a first-class citizen. What we've done right now already, back in the day, TV was the first-class citizen on the TV, and your content apps were the second-class citizens. We brought that to an equal level and made those first-class citizens. Let me push that a little bit. Absolutely. TV is still a cable box or a satellite box for most people, right? True. How do you bring... Once you start using your cable box, you shunt it off into a different interface. That to me is the challenge of making a television you own, is that somebody else owns a big chunk of it and you have no way to get at it. How do you fight that with something like WebOS, which is... You basically bolted a smartphone to the back of a TV and made it run a world-class mobile operating system. That's effectively what you've done, right? No, I think that we've actually done something very different from that. Really? Yeah. We've actually figured out what the right experiences on the TV powered by this mobile operating system, or what used to be a mobile operating system. I guess it's not very mobile anymore. Yeah. It's the biggest tablet in the world. We're somewhat portable with two people. But it's really about how we redefine the TV as a form factor. Yes. Yes, TV and cable box is really important, and we have some ways to control the cable box. But I do think, as we've seen, for example, Reed Hastings' announcement in our LG Press conference, that 4K content now is available as the first pipe to the Internet. Whereas previously, regular content, the first pipe was cable boxes. So we do see this evolution to online streaming content, and that's why we're bringing up all these different content sources and equalizing the paling field there. We think people like whatever has content. So right now, it comes from their great service from the cable companies. And cable companies also want to be integrated into smart TVs. There are more and more cable companies that are moving towards apps. Right. You did a Dish app, right? Is that coming to the webOS platform or is that... Absolutely. Because they announce it first, so you never know. At CES, it's always like when a partner announces something first and then you make the big announcement, it's always like, was that coordinated? So it's definitely coming. Yes. Okay, so using HTML to make apps for TV seems to make really good sense, and you guys have got a really nice interface, and we've already tried to talk about the challenge of the horrible interface from the cable box. But one of the other problems with smart TVs is everybody's making their own apps in HTML5 or wherever, and they look and feel very different, and you kind of lose your way to navigate it. And is this going to pop over? Is it going to take me to a different screen? How are you guys managing that? Are you enforcing guidelines? Are you letting people do whatever they want? We love the open web, and we want people to innovate. However, you're right, it does create a bit of a mess. So we're going to talk a lot more about that come February in Apps World, but we're working really hard on creating great tools for developers that they can start with patterns that we've done for them. There will be a lot more about that coming soon. So you're going to lock down UI elements you're going to have? You know a lot about NEO and our heritage there, and we're continuing and taking that forward. It's not locked down. So you're not going to provide UI parameters to people? No, we are. But I think it's really more about education. So if you take a page from history and you look at the mobile web, the mobile web kind of had different kinds of design patterns and all, until someone managed to define a category and define the kind of designs that we see today, like big buttons, easy to tap buttons. The back idea. Yeah, the idea of back and stuff like that. And I think that's what we're trying to do here, which is we're not here to enforce something. We really respect openness and we believe in it. But we're here to sort of educate and come up with the best practices for designs on the TV. I'll give you an example. So a lot of what we're seeing is people do, they translate their interface from a tablet. So they put some options here, you click an option, you click something else, and then you get finally to some piece of content and you click it and then it plays. Then if you want to bring up the UI, you take away the content, and again, it puts it full screen. It's probably not the right way to go. So we're really trying to explain to people, okay, you can actually have the content running in the background. You can have UI overlay. It should overlay from this direction. There's a lot of attention to that level of consistency. So actually that's kind of my big, the overarching question is, you guys did have a mobile operating system. It's actually hard for me to stop thinking of WebOS as a mobile operating system. That's what it's roots. When LG purchased WebOS and you guys met everybody for the first time, what were those initial conversations like about how to take something that was about being used in one hand, tactile with touch, to LG's remote, which is one of the craziest remotes in the market, right? It has like a scroll wheel and it has like a motion tracking. What was that conversation like in the early stages to bring something that was all about touch to something that was a UI at a much farther distance? So we actually started doing that before we were acquired. Really? Yes, because we really believed that TV is a great space. We started working on it and we looked at the market and we definitely identified that the D-pad or 5-way is what most of the people are working on. But we liked LG's approach because it allows us to have a better cross-platform story in one hand, where you can take web apps or web thinking and bring them over. It's easier. And the second thing is that we did notice that it's pretty good. People do use it over time and they get used to it and actually use it really well. So the story was for us more to figure out how do we optimize for two interfaces together. Since we didn't want to just copy the WebOS interface from phones to TV, it was never about adapting the UI to a TV. It was just reinventing the UI from scratch. And you were doing that before you got acquired by LG? Yes. Wow. What did that look like? Were you just blue sky like maybe we'll build a TV someday? The story of SVL and how SVL became SVL. SVL, can you explain what that is real quick? It's the Silicon Valley Lab. So we were working on reinventing WebOS with partners. And it was clear to us that we need to figure out what partners want. And LG was one of the best and earliest partners that we had. And they were so good that it made sense to... But we started working with it a little bit probably a few months before the acquisition. So we're like 15 minutes in and we haven't talked about the banner thing that everybody noticed about WebOS TV, which is Beanbird. Awesome. It should always be there. You've noticed. People do like Beanbird. So the idea behind Beanbird is that it's there to help you get through setup because you don't set up your TV, then your experience sucks. So how did you come up with this character and why did you decide you want the character to go away after setup? So Beanbird is a relic from... We really started experimenting with this idea of a UI that is a little bit snarky, has a voice. It's cute, but it's not overly cute, unlike what you wrote. Oh, snap. And what we wanted to put it to use is figuring out, okay, how can we create an emotional connection and people being excited about their TV? That's why we wanted it at the beginning. The other thing is, remember all that cool stuff Colin was explaining about how the remote can talk to your cable box? Well, you won't get that if you don't go through all the steps of first use. So we know that we can give you a much better interface the more you go through first use. So that's where we decided to focus it. So it's about production value, making you just realize, oh, I bought this great device and it looks different and there's this level of newness, which personally I think people expect from webOS. Right. And then, okay, you're done and now we're just a TV. 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And this is like a big theme, right, is these big hardware companies understanding that they need to get better at design, understanding that they need to hire real software engineers. This is a big reason they acquired webOS. And I'm saying now that they've done it, they've got the talent, the clear, blazing talent here, it's time for that idea to be resurrected as Beanbird. Beanbird is the brainchild of Liron. Nothing. Just totally flourishing. No, no, I'm giving you here. That was a great compliment. I wasted it. Thank you. And credit. So Beanbird is the brainchild of Liron Damir, our art director. And I think we are looking at how do we make the design more emotional, getting people connected. It's not just about Beanbird. We are going to do more things. I think one of the things that happened this year for webOS is that we were able to merge with a company that really understands hardware and distribution and how to get things done. But doesn't understand software at all. I think we're helping there. We're helping there and we're helping definitely not just in software, but also how to think about software. At NSVL, we're trying to bring the best of Silicon Valley to LG. And LG is really investing in its Silicon Valley presence. There are two labs, one in San Francisco and one in Santa Clara. And it's been a great experience trying to bring those two cultures together, not just a Korean versus an American culture. It's more of a manufacturing company and then this innovative software group. How do they work together? Are you going to take over their phones anytime soon? That's the obvious question. Hey, that's for you, Colin. Great question. So we're definitely focusing on TVs right now. And I think, you know, as a lawyer handed you a card. I think the more important thing, as you said just now, is really more about the problem-solving approach of webOS as a whole, what our team as a whole takes to dealing with the different devices you have. We believe in openness and we want to be what we call proactively open, which is we actually go out of the way. Does that mean open source? No, not open sourcing, but it's about how you deal with your ecosystem of devices. So, you know, basic openness is about allowing things to run on your platform or not run on your devices. But I think being proactively open is about doing the extra work to make sure that devices work better with our TVs. For example, our different consumer electronics devices we make. You know, we've, and you'll see in the apps world, but I'll tease a bit here, that we are creating this thing called the LG Connect, second screen APIs, which really allow, you know, phones and applications with integrated to immediately push stuff to a TV without pairing. You know, completely simple experiences. And so we are doing the extra work to create stuff that allows our devices to work better with what you have out there and what you already own. 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You've been all over the place. You were the CMO of Sony. I was the CMO of Sony Electronics. You were telling me that the year that Sony had Taylor Swift at CES, that was you. That was correct. Did you just call her up and say, hey, we're doing a 3D TV thing, can you stop by? Yeah, I wish. If you see her, ask her, you know Mike? See what kind of response she had. Well, that's great. But so now you're in charge of Sony Electronics, which is sort of the North American kind of gadget division, right? I mean, this is where you guys make the stuff, not necessarily the TV studio, the movie studio. This is where you make the... We're electronics....you guys are electronics. We're electronics. And Sony is on a tear here at CES. Actually, Kaz Harari just gave his keynote, and he announced a live TV service, an internet-based live TV service with video on demand. He announced a new PlayStation online streaming initiative to stream games or anything. And then you had a bunch of announcements yesterday. Did you feel coming in that this was going to be a big year, a big year of ambition for Sony? Absolutely. Or was it just sort of a normal, hey, what's all the stuff we have? I don't know. I mean, this has been in the plan. I mean, Kaz has really put together such a passion within the company. He spoke about Kando. In Japanese culture, they call it Kando. It's passion and emotion, not simply technology, but how does technology translate to emotion and passion? And how do you get that instilled in all of your employees and ultimately out into marketing, to consumers? And he's just done a phenomenal job in such a short period of time. And last year, we actually were leading our way in with 4K and other great advancements. And this year, we're just... The confidence is back. The product is back. And we're looking forward to just having a great year and really getting consumers really excited. Well, so there's been a number of product areas that the company has been focused on. We've got cameras sitting here. And imaging has been a big one. 4K for you yesterday was an enormous point of focus. And then obviously, there was this gaming stuff. And then what I was surprised about was today that he announced this live television service, which has been the missing piece here at CS. You guys always have new TVs. They always look more beautiful than ever. And there's always this, well, I've still got a cable box. What's happening with this live TV stuff? Well, I think live TV is a big announcement today. I won't take that away from Kaz. He's speaking with you a little bit later. And I'll let him get into more detail. But it really goes to giving customers choice, availability, content. We own content companies. But we want to provide content as broadly as possible and as easily as possible. And this is another way to do that in the live space as well as the gaming space. So I mean, if anybody could do that, it should be Sony. And now we are. Right. And so let's talk about that content stuff. So you announced new 4K TVs. I will say it's interesting that everybody else here has, they're curving their TVs this way. You've remained flat, which, you know, I struggle to see the value of the curved displays. I think they're very interesting technologically. It's cool that they can build them. I haven't been told why. But you're making wedges. Why are you guys doing wedges? So the wedge is twofold. The design is just fabulous. I mean, if you look at the design, whether it's hung on the wall or on a stand, it's just fabulous design. But it also gives you more immersive sound. So in the wedge, as it wedges to the bottom, we actually have tweeters in there and woofers in there that give you a much clearer quality sound and makes it more immersive in addition to the best picture quality of 4K. So we're actually, this year we'll be bringing out nine new 4K television models. And the flagship was our 85-inch model that I showed last evening. I also showed the wedge 79-inch. But we're trying to attract all the, get every passion from the consumer addressed in how they want to enjoy content. Make the quality as important in audio as it is in movie watching or video. So that's the open question, right? You've got beautiful 4K TVs. The industry is figuring out sort of what form factor is going to work best for them. I think that's always very interesting. But the open question, I think, has been distribution. How are you going to get content from the cameras? You guys make the cameras. How are you going to get content from the cameras and the studios who are making it already to the consumer? And that's been basically question mark. But you guys announced some partnerships, and you're feeling kind of confident about that? Yeah, I talked quite a bit about that last evening, and it's very pleasing to see that all your cameras are Sony cameras. Thank you very much. We did that just for you. We're very proud of that. We're proud of that for every brand. 60% of the industry does that just for us. But thank you. Thank you anyway. Yeah, so if you look at it from a, you know, the holy grail is distribution, right? Production and distribution. And with 4K, it goes well beyond the panel. And from a consumer perspective, I think they need to be aware of it's more than the panel. So when you're looking at televisions, it's the technology that goes into the television beyond the panel that can make that really wow factor that Kaz talked about today in viewing. I mean, 4K, you can get two inches to the screen and no pixelization, right? And with Sony's Triluminus technology, with our X-Reality Pro technology, our Motion Flow technology, which consumers don't really care about the technology. But what it does is it gives you lifelike colors. I mean, you can see this face is clear as day. Yeah. And in 4K- I'm just gonna put this on my face. We're actually doing this for 80 people. That's where I was going with mine. But thank you for picking that one up, for upscaling as well. So with our 4K televisions, anything, any content, 4K high definition looks better. Right. But I think that there's, but your partners yesterday that you announced were Netflix, YouTube, 500pix, ESPN. Those are all internet delivery services, right? Is that how it's gonna, I mean, I see that as being a huge disruptor to the industry, right? There's classic television, which, you know, Fox is still 720p, right? They're not gonna make the jump in broadcast to 4K tomorrow. You're not gonna get a football game in 4K tomorrow. You're gonna deliver it over the internet. But football game is interesting, because I also spoke a little bit about R55 cameras, right? Which are 4K broadcast cameras that are shooting content in 4K, but it's not all being delivered back 4K. So with 4K, you're getting four times the resolution. You're getting more information. So instant replays for sports, you can actually see more content. You see more data, more information. And they're doing that, right? They're doing the big zooms, right? So there's multiple applications. It's very different than possibly 3D, right? There's multiple applications from the production and distribution side as well, whether it's TV, Blacklist, very popular TV show is being shot in F55 cameras. We talked about Hulu is using our cameras. We brought on Reed Hastings last evening. Yeah. He's everywhere. Yeah. But what did he say about the Sony relationship? He talked about our televisions, and these were his words, that our televisions had the fastest response rate when he looked at delivery of content, 4K content to the television. So he's a creator and a distributor. So that was a very big announcement. But when I say he's everywhere, Netflix is sort of the key, right? They're the major content service that everybody has that will deliver 4K first. And that, to me, that's internet delivery. So I look at a Sony 4K TV, and the first thing I think is, well, now that Netflix is 4K, this will be useful to me. Is that how you think of it, too? Obviously, you guys run your own service, but Netflix has such broad appeal, and everybody already has it, that they're buying the TVs and they can turn it right on. Is that how you're thinking about distribution of content, or are there other pieces? Yes to both. Okay. So what we're thinking about is, you know, Kaz, again, talked about condo and emotion and wow. We're thinking about the passions, consumers' passions. Passions are music, passions are watching video, passions are, I talked about action cam and extreme sports, right? So where there's a consumer passion, how do we deliver that in a more immersive, exciting experience? So if you think about it from TV viewing, whether that's watching TV shows or whether that's streaming through Netflix content from your Netflix account or streaming through Sony Entertainment Network, or we talked about gaming today at the keynote, whatever the passion is for the consumer, how do we make it not only accessible and easily delivered into their home or on the go, but also of the highest quality? And I don't want to underestimate our desire to provide highest quality, because that really gives you the best experience. Right. And you know, you announced, the quality thing to me, I made a joke during the live log, I'm going to admit it to you. You were announcing high-res audio and I made a comparison to SACD, which was a Sony super audio CD that was announced and all the artists loved it, the music industry loved it, and it went nowhere with consumers. And now you've got high-res audio, which you're doing up sampling of compressed audio, you've got kind of reference speakers and systems. Is that different? I mean, tell me why that's different than other high-end, because I know consumers are buying crappy headphones because they like the way they look, right? They're listening to them on phones that maybe don't have the best audio converters in them, and you're saying, well, you've got to step up to this next generation of audio. Our replacement headphone business is great because it's one of those crappy headphones. But what's different here is there's a number of things different. One is it's industry-led, so there are other leading audio companies jumping on board. And two, it cuts across different lifestyles, different life segments, so it's premium quality audio for an audio enthusiast, but it's also better quality audio from a point of view of MP3 or access to tracks, right? So we're hitting all the generations. Audio is a passion across all generations, and we're providing products to them that are meaningful and relevant to how they live their life. So it's not a box in a room. It's meant for whatever application, whatever lifestyle that consumer uses. So we're all excited about high-res audio. The artists, as you said, are real excited. Last night I talked about Say Something with Christina Aguilera. And is this something you guys can do because you happen to have Sony Music on the back end? I mean, does this like, you know, Kaz always talks about one Sony, right? You've got all these divisions. Is this something where you've worked with them, or did you just present it to the industry? How does that kind of work when you want to develop products? We work really closely internally, even though we're separate entities. Internally you would never know that. We collaborate and work really well together, but we're also understanding that, you know, customers want choice and they want assortment. So we don't limit it only to Sony entities. But we can start a lot of good initiatives and really move things from an industry point of view and lead because of that, because of those components that we have, right? So it's imaging, gaming, music, television, movies, content, devices. So do you think consumers are going to, you know, I think the disruptive thing that happened in audio was convenience, right? And the Walkman was kind of the first iconic piece of convenient audio. And then the quality went up. And then obviously MP3 came and iTunes came and convenience exploded, right? And then Sony's been coming back and back. And now you guys make phones that are obviously, they do music playback. What's the next big disruptor in audio? Do you think it's high res or is it something else? I mean, does that have the same power or do you think consumers are going to stay with convenience over quality? Well, I think, I don't think you can separate them. I think it's got to be both, right? So, you know, we're putting all of our core technologies that have made the best quality televisions, cameras, audio devices now into our smartphones. And this is the actual smartphone that Kunimasa presented last night, Kunimasa Suzuki, the Z1S, which will be available through T-Mobile in the United States. And this has all of our core technologies in it. So it's got the highest quality apps that you want to use, whether it's imaging or music listening, but it makes it convenient, right? So it's convenient on the go. And when you're in your home or you're in your favorite room, we've got products that are compatible that you can sit and put on a pair of headphones and enjoy high res audio in your space that you desire. So what's interesting about that phone is that it's sitting next to one of your cameras. And this, you know, phones, particularly your phones have excellent cameras in them, right? And lots and lots of, the industry's figured out that excellent cameras in cell phones are differentiated, it sells a lot of products. How do you, that's your new Alpha. This is the A5000. You've rebranded it from Nexx. What's going on there? So, you know, we're building, we've had tremendous success with Alpha. We had tremendous success with the NEX5 and the 3 and 6 and so on. But we're trying to come up with a branding that consumers can really, you know, get on board with. And they've really got on board with Alpha. More so than Nexx? I don't think more so, but it's time for us to bring it together as a single brand because it speaks to the capability of the product. So it used to be an Alpha, it's where your DSLRs were, right? And these were your mirrorless. That's right. And now they're just kind of... Yeah, and when we got into the DSLR business, we got into it with the Alpha brand. And now we've integrated the imaging into one we call Alpha or A series. And this is a sweet camera. This is the A5000. I showed this last evening and this is about a $600 retail. So it's an affordable camera, but it's just jammed with technology and features. It could be professionals... It's the lightest, the world's lightest APS-C camera. So it can be a professional's dream for them to go. I know a lot of journalists who use the NEX3 as their go-to. Also for the casual user that wants to step up their game. So it's affordable. But my question is, is that the future of sort of Sony imaging, right? These kind of step up bigger lenses, bigger sensors, because this is killing you. The phones are killing your point and shoot market, aren't they? So yes, bigger sensors, better quality is where we stand. But don't forget, I didn't bring it. I should have brought it. Don't forget we had the QX lens style camera, which for a camera company is disruptive. We make digital DSC cameras, point and shoot cameras. We make handicaps, 4K, we make alpha, moving from NEX to the A-series. So there are times when disruptive matters and it's something you should embrace rather than hide from it. So do you see that as a companion to sort of a phone? When you're looking at somebody who has a great phone camera, how do you sell them? Feel how light that is. It's great. I mean, I'm a camera nerd, right? It used to be that you had a flip phone and you needed a camera, so you went and bought a Sony point and shoot for $249 or $349, right? Now you've got a pretty great camera on your phone. Or you could buy a Sony phone, right? How do you tell the consumer that they need this as well? Because this is really convenience and access, you were talking about earlier about accessibility and convenience. So you're going to get really great photos off of the Sony smartphones. But when you're really trying to get into different viewing angles and different effects and really taking photos around the passion of photography, this is the beginning of a camera you want to get into, right? And then you really go to a whole other level when you get into it. And then you're the camera nerd and you buy a new camera. This happens to me. Sure, thank you. So it's working. I'm doing what I can. We appreciate that. I'm a big supporter of Sony. You've got a lot of my money. We have so many products for you to buy this year. And actually, I want to talk about that a little bit. You guys announced a lot of products yesterday. And then Kaz had a keynote today. He announced some more products. What I'm missing, and we talked about this a little bit before we went on the air, what I'm missing is Sony used to have Spectacle. You used to have Taylor Swift and Sparkles. And you were in charge of that. And then you guys have made a decision to really focus and just announce products. What is that prep period like for you as you decide what you're going to do at CES? So this year, we're really looking at focus on the consumer. We've always been focused on the consumer. But the wow factor that Kaz is talking about is what we're delivering in technology that makes a motion with the consumer. So we have a music company. We have a television company, a pictures company. So we can bring artists. And you saw Kaz's keynote. We brought Vince out. And that's great. But unless the consumer can actually get that feeling through what we're delivering to them, then it just becomes Las Vegas on a show. So really, what we're focused on. We do have a lot of new products, but they're very focused. Focused around 4K for quality and premium and immersive. Focused around high res for getting those sounds, that music, the way the artist intended it to be. Focused around imaging to really give consumers that ability to feel, get the emotion out of their favorite photos and really step up their game from just point and shoot. So it's really built around very distinct passions and then going deep within those passions. Content is king. I said it last evening. And we'll continue to bring artists out and bring films out. But the delivery of them to the consumer, ease of access and interoperability, is really what we're focused on. And hopefully you saw that through last night's presentation. Yeah. I mean, next year you've got to bring Taylor Swift back. That's a promise I want to hear from you. I just look funny standing next to him. So one last question. This is a rapid fire round. I've been told we've got to wrap up here. You're a busy man. And it's just kind of a random one. It's a throwaway. You cannot answer if you want to. But when do you think mainstream adoption of 4K will come? What's your timeline? Because this is kind of the first wave of it's all going to happen. But it's not this year. Well, it's not this year. Although, I was around 29 years. We were around for a couple of paradigm shifts. I was around for HD adoption as well. And we're seeing 4K adoption much faster than HD. And this is not- Inside of 5? Oh, sure. Inside of 3. And when do you think prices will hit the mainstream price points? As mass adoption occurs, there'll be efficiencies of scale. You're going to see this year more affordable products in the market, a broader line of products in the market. But again, caution the consumer. Understand what you're buying. Do your research. Go out. Get an experience, a demonstration at retail before you make the final purchase. Because there's 4K panels that are true 4K panels, but they're not going to deliver the same experience of a brand like Sony that puts all of the engines and technology behind it beyond just the panel. Cool. We didn't get any time to talk about the 4K handicap. Well, I'm just going to take this. We're going to talk about it later. So I was hoping you would notice it's still here. 4K for 2K. That's your line? That's my line. 2,000 retail in 1999. And you're looking at- But it wouldn't sound good, 4K for 1999. 4K for 2K is not bad. This is for, I think you said, beginning filmmakers, students, hobbyists. Yeah. I mean, you can use this to film festivals. You can use it for recitals, weddings, vacations. It's a phenomenal camera. It shoots in 4K. It can shoot in HD. Surprisingly small compared to last year's. And it's got a one-inch CMOS sensor in it, which again is a larger chip. And I believe, I can't think of another camcorder that size with that size chip in it. So it's full of great technology at an affordable price. You're going to leave it here with me. For a few minutes. I'll see how long this lasts. Well, Mike, it's been great to have you. 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"text": " Cool."
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"text": " I mean, you can use this to film festivals."
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"text": " Surprisingly small compared to last year's."
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"text": " For a few minutes."
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"text": " I'll see how long this lasts."
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"text": " Well, Mike, it's been great to have you."
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"text": " Thank you so much for being the first to interview us."
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Yeah, I mean, and Monday is historically the previous day that we just went through is, you know, huge events, lots of announcements, lots of companies cheerleading their products and talking about their amazing innovations and all the new stuff that they're doing. Everything is beautiful and wonderful. Yeah, everything is innovative and you've never before seen it. And, you know, actually it's probably something that's best expressed through showing you a little bit of it. So take a look at this. Good afternoon, Las Vegas. Happy New Year. It's great to be here at CES 2014. You know, 2014 really is the year of the Internet of Things. Our theme for this year is, with LG, all possible. This year is all about play. We know you want one device for everything from work to play. Premium tablets for both work and play. We are not just about motion, but emotion. It's not just cutting edge technology, but it's for serving a higher purpose, making lives better. This philosophy drives our innovations. I believe that something is innovation. Innovation. This innovative feature. A couple other innovations. Innovation. Our new 4K Handycam. We have the ZenFone 5. Lifeband Touch Fitness Activity Monitor. How about a hand for our 9000 series top loader front loader laundry pairs. Tegra K1. The world's first 192 core processor. This is the world's lightest APS-C interchangeable lens camera. This could be the tiniest gadget Sony has ever made. We are calling them pro devices. East your eyes when I'm calling the reference standard for 4K. Say hello to the ASUS Transformer Book Duet. TD300. So many products to play with and so little time to play. Now, on to the main event. The all-important television category. This year at CES, you're going to hear about three other very important letters. UHD. Ultra HD. 4K. 4K Entertainment. The curved shape. A curved design. Curved? The curve? How do you think it's going to impact how viewers experience your movies? Excuse me, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. It's live shows, folks. So, a lot of innovation happening. Innovation everywhere. A lot of excitement. All over the place. A lot of making your life better. You know, I have to say, just generally speaking, yesterday's announcements, we saw Samsung, we saw LG. NVIDIA was the previous evening, the last really event of Sunday night. So, I'm kind of counting that. Who else did an event yesterday? We saw Sony. ASUS. ASUS. Sony. Qualcomm. Intel. Right. Intel had some really interesting announcements. I'm actually really impressed with Intel. But I will say that, and I actually will take Intel out of that mix a little bit, because I thought their stuff was very strange and interesting. It's definitely like by the numbers, by the book, in my opinion. I will say, this year, more than any. You've done this obviously longer than I have. The first one I did was Palm Pre. Several thousand years of doing the CS. This thing started in the 60s. You've been doing it since the 20s. I've been doing it since the 1620s, which is what's amazing about it. Very different scene back then. But I remember, like, every year I've gone up until this year, like, there's always been some flagship product that we're like, wow, that's insane. First year I came, it was a Palm Pre. Obviously, last year was Oculus Rift, which was a big surprise. So far, we've seen nothing like that. I don't think we've seen a slam dunk product. Frankly, I think the show this year, and this is, there is an ebb and flow. Last year we expected kind of a mellow show, and I think we saw, we got a lot of surprises. This year, I would say maybe our expectation of surprises is a little bit higher, and as a result, we may be a little bit more disappointed with what we see. I think that you can't have the same kind of show every year, and so we'll have to see. The other thing, too, I think we felt somewhat similar to this time last year also, because the big announcements we saw were from the smaller companies that don't have the big press conferences. Right. That's right. And in fact, a lot of them didn't have press conferences at all. Well, you just said that, didn't you? I just repeated what you said. At any rate, at any rate, but one of the big things at every CES is televisions. People, I mean, the companies that come here, they have to talk about televisions. They need to talk about televisions. But we saw a ton of TV news yesterday. In my opinion, the most exciting, if we're going to talk about exciting TV development, I feel like LG doing a web OS television is the big one. But that's a very sad standard for the best innovation, because it's just a new interface to a smart TV, which is basically them trying to get rid of the set-top box, still claim input one, so to speak, before someone else does for them. Well, I think LG is doing some interesting things. First off, they're using a real platform. They're not just grafting their stuff onto some weird proprietary build that they throw on one TV and then don't do it on the next. It's not like this random smart TV software. They're saying, hey, we have a platform. It's called web OS. You can build apps for web OS. It's built to work well with HTML5 apps, which is how all of these companies are building their apps for TVs, or at least they will be for the LG TV. And it has a real thought behind the way you use it. So here's a look at it right here. I think that's kind of a big deal. The only problem is, and we discussed this on the Vergecast and I think some shows yesterday, you've got to buy an LG TV. It's not like they're distributing this out into the world for anybody to use on a television. I will say, of course, if you want iOS, you've got to buy an iPhone. That's not entirely unprecedented. Do you have an LG TV? I don't. I have a Panasonic and a Samsung. Do you know anybody with an LG TV? I don't. I'm not saying people don't buy them. But then again, I don't really walk into what TV is that, because to me it's still just a black rectangle that plays Xbox and PlayStation. I do everything I can to avoid the smart TV interfaces. If this gets me to at least curious them to try it out, that is a great thing for LG to pull off. Right. I mean, to me, I'll take an innovation in software over an innovation like these curved displays that everybody was showing off. LG had a curved display. Yes, an 105-inch curved display. No, was it 105 or was it the 85? I think it's 77, 85, and 105. Well, at any rate, they showed off curved displays, which so far nobody has actually been able to identify why we should be interested in curved displays. I mean, they've said there are reasons, but I don't really buy them. Samsung had a curved display. Samsung did. Who else? Was that it? Was Samsung and LG battling it out for the – I don't know if Sony did. Sony did not have a curved TV. So this is the other thing. And then 4K. 4K. Yeah, which is more real this year than it was last year. And I think probably the most interesting part of that is Netflix and Amazon buying into 4K in a big way and forming partnerships with a lot of these companies. LG had Reed Hastings, CEO of Netflix, come out and talk about – he talked about the web OS interface, but they also talked about Netflix doing shows, doing all of their shows in 4K. Right. And I have to say, listening to that, my first thought was – and we talked about this a little bit yesterday – there's no Time Warner Cable, there's no Comcast, there's no Charter. So any of those companies are on stage with them saying, yes, we're part of the 4K revolution. Right. No, if you're getting a 4K television and you want to watch 4K content, that delivery system is going to be internet streaming. That's going to be your Netflix. It's got to be. It's got to be streaming. And you don't hear – I mean, cable, I guess, presumably will come around to doing 4K over traditional cable lines over copper. I mean, I assume they can. I don't know why they wouldn't be able to. They can do 1080. Or at least fiber optics. I mean, when you think about how artifacted 1080 or 720 is on cable delivery, I do wonder if that's even possible. But the new standard is H.265, which is being built into a lot of these new televisions. The industry seems to have agreed on it for getting reasonably sized packets of data down to these televisions and these receivers and getting it onto your television. But I feel like Time Warner and Comcast are terrified of people asking for more bandwidth, trying to push more bandwidth down the pipe. And so I feel like we're still very far away on 4K TVs. Even though you're going to be able to start to buy them, you can buy them now. You'll be able to buy even more throughout 2014. Right. And maybe you have a better memory of this, but I do know when the HD televisions started becoming a big thing, obviously cable had not caught up yet. You'd have to buy a special HD receiver. It costed a premium if it was available at all. That's right. The infrastructure I'm hoping is there. If not, it's going to be a huge – I don't think it's fiber optics really installed. I think in the next five years we'll lay the groundwork. But it's going to be a slow climb, a slower climb in my opinion maybe, than HD was slow, at least in the U.S. So I think that's the main stuff for televisions. Is there anything else that happened? I mean the tangential to that, at least somewhat, is Sony did announce a 4K camera. Right. That's right. So if it's on Amazon, it's on Netflix, it is your home movies with your phone. Yeah, 4K camcorder. Which is – do people say camcorder anymore? I don't think they do. Handycam I guess. Yeah, well it is a Handycam. I mean that's a brand name. But interesting. I mean there are 4K cameras in existence now. There are plenty of them. People are shooting 4K right now. So that's not a huge innovation. Did they mention a price point? I don't think so, but the Handycam line is generally – that's more consumer than anything else we've seen. Right. It's a consumer-facing product. If it's cheap enough, that would be really interesting. Right. But we don't know yet. I don't see why – I don't know if that's a major leap for them because in terms of processing 4K, cameras do that all the time. I mean you can process higher resolution images. I think the issue is the optics and they're probably putting cheaper optics in there. So it could be a consumer-level product for a reasonable price. Right. And of course – We have no way of knowing. This always does trickle down. Right. So it's going to go professional to consumer to consumer to your parents. Right. So what else were the big stories? Big stories. And this does feel like almost a rehash of last year so far. The big story, of course, again was wearables. Yeah. But not just the wrist either. And this is where we get into Intel. Butt, butt wearables, butt sensors. Butt sensors. There are no butt sensors actually. No. Which to my – frankly to my disappointment. Although Russell – You can insert into your pants, track your butt movements. Actually. Is that a thing? Russell Brandom did a report earlier in the week with Notch, it's a start-up company. They do sensors into your shirt and they track your shirt movement. I don't see why you couldn't do it with your pants. No. Yeah. Notch is interesting because it's almost abstracted from this whole idea of a specific thing you put on like a watch or a band or an ankle thing. There's no ankle thing. That's called an ankle bracelet for a monitor. But last year we started to see just the – a taste of wearables. And this year it was Sony and – did Samsung have – no, LG. LG did. LG and Sony – So they didn't really – did they mention it that much? I know they've had a smart watch for a while but like – They talked about – they touched on wearables. They have this tennis racket. Right. Smart tennis racket. That's really interesting. But there is certainly – Intel talked a lot about their wearables, I mean where their chips can go. And what's interesting is that it was a cool idea last year and now this year all of the major companies are either touting products that they're making that are their Fitbit competitor or their fuel band competitor or they're at least talking about how important wearable technology is. Yeah, and I think even a gaming company like Razer is looking at smart bands now. They announced the Naboo last night. Which is again, it's a crazy company to think about doing this. And what feels kind of off the mark is that we're seeing it for – it records your data or it gives you data. It doesn't really tackle the input thing yet. They need the biometrics. Right. And I remember when we went to see us availed, Casey had found something that was very interesting like that. I can't remember. It was like a VR thing. Oh, the Pivot VR? Yeah. Or is it VR Pivot? I think it's Pivot VR. It was something where like you strapped your – This is cool. Yeah, this was kind of an amazing product. It is – it basically looks like the thing from Elysium in a way. Like the body mod or whatever. But it tracks your body movements, it tracks your arm movements and it looks really, really natural. I mean you can see there's a little bit of lag but you can see Casey's arm is shaking a little bit and it shakes in the game. And I've got to say, you match this – by the way, they also have leg attachments apparently. And this is not that expensive. Look what's jacked in the back of his head. Speaking of the Elysium thing. Yeah, but I mean you – That's scary. You know, you match this with an Oculus headset. I mean that to me is – I mean this goes beyond wearables. This is a crazy, you know, body immersive experience for you when you're playing a game or doing all sorts of things. I mean this doesn't have biometrics, right? This is just straight up for game play. Just straight up for game play. You can imagine a situation where you have something like that, you're tracking your biometrics, you're playing some sort of like activity game or exercise thing or whatever sports game on your 105-inch curved TV, you know. And not to hard-guess, like something I remember Valve saying six months ago when they looked into biometrics and obviously that's a company that just thinks about random stuff all the time. But the idea like if we check your pulse and you start getting more scared in a game, we can actually make the game affect that. Right. No, I mean that's a really cool and exciting idea. I mean even playing Dead Rising on the Xbox One, you know, there's a feature where you can say – you can scream over here and the zombies will hear your voice and come towards you. And, you know, at first I was like, well, this is a weird gimmick. Like I'm not really buying into this. But then after doing it a few times, I was like, wow, this really is – adds a whole new dimension to the game. I mean you do – you are interacting with it in a way that you would have never been able to do before. And it has a real visceral impact on what's happening on screen. So seeing stuff like this, I mean I think it's – you know, we're talking a lot about wearables with things like Pebble watches. Pebble actually had a great – showed off a great new watch. Very fashion conscious. Yeah, I mean the second Pebble, called the Pebble Steel, is definitely I think a huge upgrade from the previous device they did. But, you know, we're talking about wearables like that, smart watches and fitness trackers. There's a smart toothbrush, which is not really a wearable but I think falls into that category. You know, we had the four-glasses, we need something like that. Yeah, right. This is definitely the follow-up to the four. Yeah. But when you think about how you could apply some of this technology to experiences like gaming or driving or, you know, activities that aren't just strictly like, hey, I'm exercising or I'm sleeping, here's what I wonder about wearables. Okay. America is not known – I'm just speaking as an American. America is not known for – and as a person who is not known for this – not known for being like real into fitness and being healthy. Right. I mean at least in the last like 30, 40 years, right, we sort of been on a slow march towards morbid obesity across the nation. So I just wonder like we're making all these fitness devices, all these tracking devices. I mean I bought – what was the Wii thing? The balance board? The thing you step on? The balance board? I bought the balance board. I used the balance board for like a month and then I was like the balance board went under the sofa and it never slid back out. The balance board is now – there's a pile of pennies discarded fur. It looks like there's another chihuahua underneath the sofa that is just fur covering the balance board. So like what I wonder, what I really wonder is people are buying the FuelBand, they're buying Fitbits. Clearly there's a – people think there's a market for it. There seems to be a market for it. Do people actually want to use these for extended periods of time? Are they going to commit to using these things? Like because it would be kind of awesome if we start thinking about that stuff. I mean if we become a nation or even a species of people who do – and this is the quantified self idea. Do we care to numerically count our steps, our calories? And I'm unashamedly one of those kind of people who I do track calories all the time and track my steps. But to track calories you have to input your food intake, right? Yes. That's one of the things that's annoying. That is the most annoying thing. But you think this is a trend that's a real trend that's going to happen? I don't know because I feel like we're still in this kind of halcyon days of wearables because the design isn't really ubiquitous. People don't know where they want to put it if anywhere. This kind of brings up the Intel keynote which was the most interesting keynote. Yeah, Intel showed off some – so let's talk about some of the stuff they showed off. Yes. Jarvis. Jarvis. I know you have a list. We can go down your list if you want. No, no, no. This is great. Let's do your list. I want to hear you talk about Jarvis. Okay, fine. Well, I mean explain what Jarvis is. It's just – essentially it feels like a Bluetooth earpiece but it's one that has kind of an AI that kind of works with you on this. It's essentially the Iron Man Jarvis. It's like Siri if there was – I guess I mean Siri, if Siri were just in your ear, it's almost like the movie – it's almost like her, right? It is. In the sense that it's like this companion that is speaking to you. It's like a personal conversation you're having. I haven't seen that yet by the way. I haven't seen it either but I've seen the commercials and I feel like that's enough. Fair enough. It's enough to know what happens in her. If they die, they all die in the end, right? Spoiler alert, I don't know. Too soon? I'm not sure. Can an AI die? This is getting – Can an AI die? No, and I think the reason Intel is doing this, I think this is a way to set the stage. Wait a second. Tweet us your answers. Can an AI die? Love to hear what you think. Hashtag VirgCast. Go ahead. No, this is not VirgCast. It's not VirgCast. Hashtag first exclamation mark. That would be great. Okay. No, but I mean you also remember like this is somewhat of a business thing too for Intel because Intel dominated the PC market. They screwed the pooch on mobile and that's become a big thing. This is Intel getting ahead and saying we know wearables will be a thing. We don't know what it looks like but we're going to set the ideas and then if you want to – look, we know how to do it so just please use us. Well, I think this is interesting. You know, you see Google saying, hey, Google Glass, you're going to wear this thing on your head. You're going to get information in the corner of your vision. You know, you've got Apple's take thus far is, hey, you're going to have this personal assistant on your phone. She's going to give you all this information. Google is also doing Google Now so it's a little bit of that. You've seen some – you know, you've seen some of these devices, the watches where they're trying to say like don't be looking at your phone. We're going to find better ways to give you certain types of information. This is an interesting take on it where there's no screen. There's no interface beyond the conversation you're having. I mean obviously there is a verbal interface. So I think it's an interesting take. I just love the idea though that you're going to be – I will be having a conversation. We talk about distraction. If you've ever tried to listen to two people talking at the same time, it's basically impossible. So I love the idea that we'll be having a conversation and Jarvis is going to be updating me on some very important information and it's like we'll be completely chaotic. Or even more compelling, they didn't talk about this but I feel like what they're expressing even more compelling is auto translation. And this is something where Jarvis could actually translate who we're talking to and listen. Well that would be amazing. We've seen Google try things like that but it's always – I mean if this device had the ability to pick up audio that well and could in real time process it and deliver the translation, I mean that would change – that could change like how we watch movies for instance. Instead of watching films – it would change how we learn languages. Instead of watching films with subtitles, you may just be hearing the dialogue read back. Of course I guess it's like dubbing so what I'm talking about. That doesn't make any sense at all. Maybe Jarvis has a better dubbing. But you know dubbing is whack, okay? I mean it looks horrible and it sounds horrible. This would be a totally different thing. And this is the thing about Intel. It wasn't a consumer focused event as much. They had a couple of things but it was more – It was like vision. Aspirational, get dreaming. And most of the things we saw were this is the next phone you're probably going to buy in six months. This is the next tablet you might get. So it wasn't as interesting because these were very familiar ubiquitous products. The exception being – and this is where we get into the transportation stuff. And you did a lot of this stuff too. It's automotive. Wait, hold on. Before we do automotive, what else did Intel announce or what did they talk about? The one big gadget thing they did and this is what we heard – rumored was they're an initiative to put Windows and Android on these devices. This was another thing that happened yesterday. Asus did this. Android and Windows. They're like you can have an Android tablet and a Windows tablet and a Windows laptop. Right. And an Android laptop. I guess if that's a thing that you want which I don't know why you would. And Intel is pushing for this as well. This to me feels like the touch screen laptop movement. The convertible like hey, it flips into a tablet and now it's a laptop. I don't really believe that that's how people want to use these devices. I think if you had the right size screen which is a smaller screen and a great dock for it, you can have a tablet experience that becomes a slightly more laptop like tablet experience and I think you can have a more simplified laptop. But I'm not sure that people necessarily want a device that's trying to do both things. And I think that when you try to do – I mean I think that in a way Microsoft has shown there are real problems with this. And when you try to do both things, it becomes – you compromise. It does feel like a lot of these were like the Windows 8 form factors that just did not sell. Right. They're like oh, we have this 13 inch, 12 inch form factor laying around. Why don't we put Android on it and then maybe we can sell some of these things. Which is maybe we're being cynical but I do feel that there – again, it's like is there a market for this product? How do you create a market for it? I mean my experience is I like a smaller tablet and a small laptop and they do very different things. So anyhow. So the other big story of the show, transportation. That's where you were going. That's where I'm going to. Because that one is somewhat aspirational but it also feels a little more actualized. We're about to get in this field where like self-driving cars is a big thing. Those are trying to get approved really fast. You did the Toyota iRoad which I am fascinated by this. I took this iRoad device and we've got a story up on the site in an amazing video. The iRoad is a three-wheeled – they say two-passenger that it's really like one regular size human and a kid or something. You're not a regular size human. Or what Toyota said which was two homo sapiens from Japan. That is the most politically correct. Very politically correct. So this thing is actually really cool. What it is is they're meant for car sharing programs. Essentially how we have city bikes in New York that you can grab, take somewhere and then drop off. They're going to start doing these in Asia and Europe. It's a three-wheeled leaning vehicle. It can go about 30 miles an hour top speed. And I think 50 kilometers is the range. So it really is just an inner city commuting or from a short trip from the suburbs to the city. But it is so much fun to drive. It's a lot of fun. And I'm a big guy. I fit in okay. It's a ton of fun to drive. And when you think about if you can imagine a city where let's just say half the cars are replaced, the people who are commuting around the city, half the cars are replaced with devices like this. And it's also all electric obviously. Well not obviously. That's another issue in development too because Toyota fuel cells as well. That's going to be a big deal. Yeah, Toyota had a fuel cell announcement I believe yesterday. And there's clearly, look, automotive is changing. I think Tesla has really reignited the imagination for what can happen in cars. And Google with the self-driving car. Audi last night showed off a self-driving car. They had stuff last year they showed us. It's apparently even more advanced this year. But transportation is getting really interesting. People are taking it seriously. And it's not just, hey, we put a bigger, more interesting stereo or GPS unit in the car. We've changed the way you're thinking about driving. I mean, Audi's idea is that you'll be in traffic and the car will switch into some mode where it drives for you so you can read a book or take a phone call or do whatever. Or even like take a step back. This one we know is going to have the 2015 Corvette. Their display is basically Gran Turismo, which may be a little likely. They kind of gamify. It makes me a little nervous, people who are feeling this is Gran Turismo. Yeah, I mean, people will definitely abuse it. Or they'll start playing Gran Turismo. It's way more boring. That's problems with humans, really no problems with what Chevy's doing. But we have this Audi. Do we have a clip of this? We do. So also, to set the stage first, last year Chris did the self-driving car with the Audi, but it was only in a parking lot. Chris Igler went to do an Audi demo and he got in the car and it parked itself. Which is like, okay, that is very, very fascinating. We were all amazed by it. This year, obviously, they want to show off a little more, so Chris got to do a few extra things with it this year. Yeah. We should show this. So here's Chris test driving, or test riding the newest version of Audi's self-driving vehicle. This is Chris from The Verge, and today we're looking at a pair of Audis you're definitely not going to find in your local dealership. One drives for you, one reads traffic lights, and both are kind of amazing. So Audi has worked with the city of Las Vegas to wire up all of these street lights so that they're actually downloading information about the programs that the street lights are running on. The reds, the greens, in real time, and Audi is calculating when the lights are likely to change. The engine is currently completely off. The car has start-stop technology, and because it knows when this light is going to change from red to green, when there's five seconds left, the engine automatically turns on. So we're ready to go. Normally, with a start-stop engine, the only time the engine turns on is when you let your foot off the brake, and then there's a little bit of a delay before the engine's ready to go. So by the time the light changes, you can press the gas and you're good to go. And one of the great things about the car being able to detect when it needs to start the engine is that if you're not paying attention, the stop lights, if you're looking around, you can feel the engine start. You can feel it on the pedal, the brake pedal. You can sort of hear the engine a little bit. So that kind of gives you a reminder that you need to start paying attention because the light's about to change from red to green. The system is only live in a few European cities right now, and it's very difficult to scale because every major European city does their traffic lights differently. It's a little more homogenous in the US, but it's still a huge task to try to take in all of this traffic light information, collect it in a server farm in Germany, and process it and get it out to all the cars. So this is a slow process. The Las Vegas deployment is just for CES, of course. But over time, hopefully, we'll see this in more cars. Later, we took to the highway to see what happens when you fall asleep while your self-driving car is slogging along in a traffic jam. OK, here we go. Please watch the traffic around me because this is pretty scary. All right, here we go. There you go. So it says, driver attention, please take control of the vehicle. After five seconds, start to break down. And there you go. And the emergency lights are on. Well, they just switched back off again. That sometimes happens. Still in development. That's a loud beep. It is. Hard to ignore. It is. Absolutely. We want the driver to know that he's supposed to take over. Right. It uses a variety of sensors both inside and outside the car to make this happen. Inside there are cameras that are actually keeping an eye on my face. If I fall asleep, the car detects that. It automatically shuts off the piloted driving. And if I take too long to take control of the car, it'll actually bring it to a full stop, put on the flashers, and call the cops. So there you have it. Just like last year, Audi is throwing a lot of new technology at CES. And neither of these technologies are ridiculous notions that we'll ever see the light of day. They're real. And there's good reason to think they'll be in production car scene. So pretty incredible. I mean, I think there's this feeling of safety because you've got somebody behind the wheel there. But when you see them just taking their hands off the wheel and there's an 18-wheeler whizzing past them. It reminds me of that scene from Fight Club where they just go over the wheel and crash. Yeah. That's what it's like, except it's not crashing. No, it's very boring. It comes to a stop. Yeah. But it's pretty incredible. And that'll be a... We haven't put that up, the video, up as a standalone yet. No, that'll be in about an hour. That'll be up on the site in just a little bit so you guys can re-watch it. And it's a really cool report from Chris. So I think that's kind of the show. We have a lot of stuff happening today. This is the first of the firsts. We'll be doing them throughout the week. And of course, later tonight, we'll do the Verge cast after hours. And I don't know if we... We don't have any live post-show events today. No, but we do have one very interesting thing. Right now, obviously, we're doing the show while Kaz Harai does a keynote. And apologies for that, of course. Yeah. If people are watching both, thank you. Yeah. If you didn't know, there's a Kaz Harai keynote going on right now that we're covering live. But as an apology, I mean a culpa for us, the Sony president, new Sony president, Mike Vesula will be here. This is his first interview ever as a Sony president. Yeah. Very cool. He'll be here in the studio? In the studio, live. We'll be talking to him, Neil. And Neil I will be doing an interview with him. And that's in... It's about 11 o'clock. We want to say 11, but obviously they're literally going straight from the... Four and a half, but we'll have to see what their schedule is like over there. But so yeah, and by the way, we'll have a bunch more interviews and hands-on and all kinds of demos and stuff from the studio here. Like I said, Verge cast at night. First will be happening every morning, then 90 seconds on The Verge, of course, every day. So plenty of video, lots of video coming from The Verge. That is first, and we will see you guys tomorrow morning. Take care. | [
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"text": " But that's a very sad standard for the best innovation, because it's just a new interface to a smart TV, which is basically them trying to get rid of the set-top box, still claim input one, so to speak, before someone else does for them."
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"text": " It's not like they're distributing this out into the world for anybody to use on a television."
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"text": " Do you have an LG TV?"
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"text": " I don't. I have a Panasonic and a Samsung."
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"text": " I don't."
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"text": " Yes, an 105-inch curved display."
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"text": " No, was it 105 or was it the 85?"
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"text": " Who else? Was that it?"
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"text": " Sony did not have a curved TV."
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"text": " 4K."
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"text": " Yeah, which is more real this year than it was last year."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " No, if you're getting a 4K television and you want to watch 4K content, that delivery system is going to be internet streaming."
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"text": " That's going to be your Netflix."
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"text": " Right. That's right."
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"text": " So if it's on Amazon, it's on Netflix, it is your home movies with your phone."
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"text": " I don't think so, but the Handycam line is generally – that's more consumer than anything else we've seen."
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"text": " Right. It's a consumer-facing product. If it's cheap enough, that would be really interesting."
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"text": " Right. And of course –"
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"text": " This always does trickle down."
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"text": " Right. So what else were the big stories?"
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"text": " There are no butt sensors actually."
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"text": " Is that a thing?"
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"text": " Russell Brandom did a report earlier in the week with Notch, it's a start-up company."
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"text": " Smart tennis racket."
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"text": " That's really interesting."
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"text": " Which is again, it's a crazy company to think about doing this."
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"text": " Oh, the Pivot VR?"
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"text": " Or is it VR Pivot?"
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"text": " Like the body mod or whatever."
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"text": " And this is not that expensive."
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"text": " Look what's jacked in the back of his head."
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"text": " Right. No, I mean that's a really cool and exciting idea."
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"text": " Yeah, right."
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"text": " This is definitely the follow-up to the four."
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"text": " activities that aren't just strictly like, hey, I'm exercising or I'm sleeping, here's what I wonder about wearables."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " America is not known – I'm just speaking as an American."
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"text": " America is not known for – and as a person who is not known for this – not known for being like real into fitness and being healthy."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " I mean at least in the last like 30, 40 years, right, we sort of been on a slow march towards morbid obesity across the nation."
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"text": " I mean I bought – what was the Wii thing?"
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"text": " The balance board?"
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"text": " The thing you step on?"
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"text": " The balance board?"
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"text": " I bought the balance board."
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"text": " I used the balance board for like a month and then I was like the balance board went under the sofa and it never slid back out."
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"text": " The balance board is now – there's a pile of pennies discarded fur."
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"text": " It looks like there's another chihuahua underneath the sofa that is just fur covering the balance board."
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"text": " So like what I wonder, what I really wonder is people are buying the FuelBand, they're buying Fitbits."
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"text": " Let's do your list."
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"text": " I want to hear you talk about Jarvis."
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"text": " Well, I mean explain what Jarvis is."
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"text": " Love to hear what you think."
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"text": " Hashtag VirgCast."
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_dfWBcT1voE | Hey, and welcome to the first of many shocking and troubling Vergecasts from CES 2014. I'm Josh Dupolsky. I'm Neelay Patel. I'm Niederbohm. Neelay Patel, deeply, deeply interested in what's happening right now. By the way, perfect timing for an enormous jet to fly over the Las Vegas Convention Center. Can you hear that? I can. Well, we can hear it. Can you out there hear it? At any rate. So, this is it. Sunday night. We're here. The eve. It's happening. The eve before. The eve. The calm before the storm. Yeah. The small storm before the big storm. We already had a squall. You know, we had, what we actually had was a terrible winter storm that moved in across the East Coast, sidelining many of our writers, editors. My suitcase. Several people were, do you still not have your suitcase? I don't have my suitcase. No, you do. I do not. You're lying. I do not. Are you lying? I wake up every morning and I call Delta Airlines. You wake up every morning and you're crying. I asked them for my pants off. Wondering why this has happened to you. No, so we had a winter storm that sidelined a lot of people that made it very difficult to get out here, but now we're in beautiful downtown Las Vegas. That's not a place, right? Downtown Las Vegas doesn't exist. No, it's a place. Does that exist? It's being revitalized. Is there a downtown? We're nowhere near it. Okay. We're nowhere near it, I'm being told. But, Teeter. Anyhow, but we're here now. CES is starting to happen. Yeah. You can make a real argument about what day of CES this is. We've had that argument all day. Is it zero? Is it day negative one? Is it day one? Is Monday an official day? No. It's Tuesday. Tuesday is day one. According to them. I could have this conversation all night long. The reality is that today was the first warm-up day, and tomorrow is press conference day. And the rest of it is just people wandering. The rest of it is bedlam. There's going to be blood. There's going to be passion. The two things will usually be connected. I have to say, I've been reading a lot of backlash to CES. Always backlash. But I love it here. It's a party. I don't get the backlash. I did something today that will be up on the site tomorrow that perfectly typifies why we come to CES. Whatever. So products are announced here, they never come out. They don't move the needle. You know what it is? A bunch of people making the weirdest crap they can. Don't be bitter about what didn't happen. Be excited about what did happen. That's the way I see it. Mr. Positivity is how I'm known. I'm forcing the positivity. I'm very depressed. Amongst friends? Yeah, well, before we get into the Vergecast stuff. I'm alone. Before we talk about the new cyber toothbrush that was announced tonight. I am indeed excited and disturbed by the... I want to talk about Neal. I had a great loss today. My team lost to the Niners. A great personal loss. His sports team that he personally feels attached to. I'm a shareholder. A shareholder of his sports team. Wow. Did you disclose that? I own one share that grants me nothing. The Green Bay Packers, they can't even give you a win. Not even a win in the playoffs. Would it be too much to ask? The Green Bay Packers lost. We're brutally trounced. Crushed by 3 points. I have no idea what happened in the game. All I know is somebody tweeted that they were losing. All you know is justice was served. We were coming back from this thing that I went to do that you guys don't know about yet. The thing that's cool. And I saw somebody tweet that they were losing. And my first thought was, oh boy, Neal is going to be a nightmare. He's going to be a nightmare when I get back. So apparently his sports team lost. I'm drunk right now. Let's be honest. Drunk with sad. But I'll get through. Let's talk about the CS. So this is kind of like the first day. There's an event today called CS Unveiled. Our whole team was just there. I'm looking at the news right now. It was tight. It was tight as hell. So it's weird because Quantified Soft is a big theme of the show. Everybody's Quantified Soft. We're going to measure everything. The only one out of the gate is a smart toothbrush. The Colibri smart toothbrush that claims to track how well it brushes. It can tell where in your mouth it's brushing. That's actually kind of awesome. I refuse to believe it. And then it grains you on the quality of like, you got this kid. This is a total gimmick. Yeah. Total gimmick. Which I am going to buy. I mean, do you think you have trouble brushing? Look, it's electronic vibrations echo the rapid beatings of the Colibri Hummingbird. Oh my God. That's how they named it. No. I'm not even kidding. Shut up. I'm not lying. That's not real. That's true. Really? Yeah. That's why they named it. It's like a hummingbird's inside your mouth. By the way, judging you. Judging you on how good you're teaching. Our author, Sam Byford, gets an award for best sub-headline of the day, chomping at the Fitbit. Oh yeah, that's good. That's really good. That's great. So all this stuff is happening. I actually wanted to start by- Isn't it a champagne? Well, that's the joke. It's a two-level joke. No, I get it. But we've had this conversation before. So we actually, it's weird because a lot of- Wait a second. I'm sorry. Let me interrupt you. I'm getting a report from Twitter that our audio is all over the place. Oh, yeah. That it's bouncing between left and right channels. I think they're right. Are we aware of this? Did you guys put the audio bouncer on the... It was an effect. That was on purpose. Yeah. Can you do the telephone effect on my voice, guys? But only when he says something like remix. Remix. Wait, a lot of background noise. Now I'm hearing. Audio keeps shifting left and right channels. Well, listen, it's not like we know anything about technology. We're doing the best that we can. You'll have to forgive us if we can't get the audio to sound not completely insane. All right, anyhow, what were you saying? No, it's just weird. This year's show is going to be an extension of what happened last year. Well, last year CS was supposed to be the ultimate valley of how important the show was. And it actually showed up. All these indie companies showed up and they made it, I think, one of the best CSs ever. I agree. I agree. And this year is very much a continuation of that. So Pebble was here last year. They were kind of the darling of the show. They're back again this year. I think they actually have a press conference that we're going to get to. Oculus was here. They were, I think, the star of our show, although their product at that time was like ski goggles with duct tape. Yeah, literally duct taped ski goggles. This year they're announcing they're showing off the next generation of their product. So there's all this stuff that's happening over and over again. And the classic sort of categories that happen at CS, it's like there is Samsung's TV, the Easel, which was beautiful. I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was beautiful, but it was like a $40,000 TV that no one could buy. Like who would ever watch all those weird laptops, the Helix, all those Windows 8 convertibles, most of them pretty much in a flop, except for I think the yoga ones. And then there was a bunch of wearables last year, which aside from Pebble, never went anywhere. So this year it's kind of like we're going to see that resurgence again. I think my expectations of the big players are the same. They're very low. My expectations of the smaller players are very high. Although the big players, especially with 4K, I'm hoping that what we see is like we saw the insane, expensive, crazy show off TVs last year, the concept cars. And I'm hoping that we see 4K like maybe not the mass is quite yet. What was the bet that we had last year? I had a bet that 4K TVs would be like affordable, like $1,000 within like five years. And I think we're going to get there this year next. There's actually a 4K TV you can buy. Yeah that thing is a piece of crap, the Seiki. Yeah the Seiki. I mean you were right. I guess you nailed it. The Seiki is available for $1,000. I refuse to win a bet. I don't know, I want to check you out. That's like winning a playoff game by Phil Gilthom. Oh boy, here we go with the playoffs. It's cheap. I mean you can be proud of yourself. So what does this mean now? The Packers can't go to the Super Bowl? Yeah. They're not going to be going to the Super Bowl? No, they're going to go home. It's like that. Just like me. They need rest. Just like you. They need to take a nap. So stuff has happened already by the way. We should show a little bit of this Corvette video. Chris Ziegler is here. He is on the Carbeat at CES. It's one of his many beats but it... Cars at CES and CR are a huge deal. Really, really huge deal. So we actually took Chris and told him all he has... If he's not driving a car, he's screwing up day to day. So Chris went into a Corvette and one of our video... I think it was Zach went with him with a drone. So Chevy is adding basically a built-in GoPro to the Corvette with all kinds of tracking devices. It basically turns driving this car like doing hot laps into a video game. And when you play it back, you can share it. It shows you all your metrics. And basically Chris got to blast a Corvette around the desert. We have a monitor turned. Does anybody know? It would be great to be able to see what's on that screen. But anyhow, so yeah, so that was... There has been a... I mean, there does seem to be an increase... The car focus is out of control. Yeah. I mean, I just... The thing I just went to see that you guys will see tomorrow is a car related device. That's not the right way to describe it. But there is something I think somewhat exciting happening in cars right now. And I kind of blame Tesla. I feel like Tesla's put the spotlight on car technology in a way that shows that you can do something more ambitious than just put a better stereo in it or do voice... And other than the Prius, when's the last time we've had that? We've had a huge drought of exciting things happening with cars. It's weird because if you look at the pieces of the cars that are... It's... I mean, that Corvette really is like a fancier... It's in the vein of a fancier stereo, right? Let's take an existing car and bolt technology on it. It's awesome because it's a Corvette. With Tesla, it was like they reinvented a car. Like Hyundai is here, Chevy is here, BMW is here, Audi is here. These guys, they're kind of like taking existing cars and existing hybrids and sort of like... They are in a way adding on the stereo stuff. I think it's always been a car show and that they've always had a big chunk of this show where it was dedicated to cars, but it was for a really long time, it was new stereos and GPS units and like speak... It wasn't really technology that was moving the ball forward at all, I think, for autos. And it definitely feels like that's changing. Because a lot of those things, those traditional things have been eaten by the smartphone. And that's like, I'm never gonna buy a GPS unit, I'm just gonna use my phone. It's never gonna occur to me to have a GPS unit. My car stereo, all I really wanted to be is an audio and jack and a volume control. I feel like it's the last couple of years have been the worst ever for Garmin. Yeah. Like TomTom and all that. Yeah, I mean, is TomTom still in business? I think they sell maps. The fact that I'm asking that I think is a great example of the trouble that they've had, a great sign of the times. It's true though, I mean, but a lot of the technology is, there's still some frivolous stuff. Yeah, but that's what makes it great. I mean, that's why I love this show. Like I actually thoroughly enjoy like frivolous, hilarious technology because it's frivolous and hilarious. Yeah. And the fact that everybody's here, they're all seeing what's going to stick next. I mean, that's kind of how it CCS, right? This is like the desperate search for the next big thing. Yeah. And everyone's just throwing stuff at the wall. Desperate is definitely the right word to use. But it's like a fun desperate. Yeah. I mean, I think... It's like a late college party desperate. I just think, yeah, there's a, well, late night party is sort of right. I think there's, but I think the thing about it is there's a lot of, like there is plenty of bad stuff, but there are some really interesting things. I don't know if we've seen any of the most interesting things yet. No. I think the shabby thing is somewhat interesting. I mean, Chris is going to literally be driving and reporting on driving cars like all week. Yeah. And there's a lot going on. And then he's going to die because there's nothing else that would make him happier. That this is the peak of his entire life. Playing with cars for a week in the desert. So we should go through some basic. Let's talk. So we talked a little bit about cars. We should talk about TVs. Like there are some big categories that are always at the show. I think TVs is a big one. We've already seen it was leaked yesterday that LG is going to announce the webOS TV. Oh, they like, I think they said it. They said it and then we saw some pictures. They're going to have a big presence for this. It's nice that the two of you are here to talk about webOS. I have up right now. I have my free part 10,000 word palm pre-review from Engadget. And I've been like going over it and just going like, God, I wish webOS had happened. And I really wish it had happened the way I thought it was going to happen when I wrote this review. And I got to say, even now webOS looks. Oh, that webOS. The original webOS. The original webOS. Even now webOS looks either as current, if not a little bit more current than a lot of modern OS. Well, I mean, we did the story about the last webOS, what they were actually planning. Yeah, the stuff they were planning is awesome. I mean, it's disappointing to say the least. I just think the fact that LG, like, yeah. Why? It's just like, webOS. It's going to be on it. Here's the thing with smart TVs, like, they're never going to do anything good. It's going to be a TV with apps on it. And maybe the apps are going to be a little bit better. But it's still not going to be television. The problem with smart TVs is that it requires- There's a cable box. Well, yeah, but it also requires that you buy LG's interface. If this interface is real, by the way, it looks like racing stripes. That's what it looks like to me. It looks like a European car with racing stripes, which maybe is cool. Maybe you're into that. But I just don't understand what it is they're trying to do with that. But they need webOS to do that. Why do they need this operating system to make that work? Yeah, I mean, I think it's, well, they have it. That's the first thing. They're like, we bought this thing. They didn't have it before. I mean, it is a framework for making apps and for an interface. The thing about smart TVs is the competition for making something that doesn't suck is super low. Every smart TV I've ever looked at the interface, I want to go away from it so fast. I bought a new TV, which is, until these 4K TVs become the mainstream, it's supposed to be the best TV ever. This Panasonic plasma, they're discontinued. I bought it on the way out. It is the most, everything about using this TV except for watching television is terrible. The grid of apps, the fact that it has a camera that pops up by itself, you can leave video messages using it. No, really? It physically pops up? But it doesn't go back down on its own. You have to get up and watch the TV. That's like the open tray on a Bluetooth speaker. Does it have a motor or is it just like out of spring? It just pops up. Wow. Actually, those close. What am I talking about? That should be able to close by itself. It doesn't close by itself. Everything about what Panasonic tried to do with this television except for make a beautiful picture is a huge fail. That makes zero sense. That's kind of where LG, I think, was with software. You look at what LG and Samsung started out with Android on their phones and you're like, wow, that disaster has only gotten slightly better. Things may be accelerating a little bit faster than LG. I think LG's Android phones are still disastrous. That's awful. I see why they would want to buy an operating system and designers and experts to make their smart TV to get a jump in that market. At the end of the day, you're going to turn all that stuff off and you're going to use your Comcast box. You're just going to keep winning that fight. I'll say this. I just got a Roku 3 and I think they've made some real strides in getting...the search alone is kind of a killer feature where it'll just show you where something is available. What's crazy to me is this whole idea that we're going to do...and you see this on everything. I use the Amazon app on my Panasonic TV and it's terrible. But here's the thing. Every app is different. Every app has a different interface. And Netflix has its own interface and Hulu has its own interface and HBO Go has its own interface and they're so wildly inconsistent. The one thing I'll say that Apple has right is they're basically like, we're not going to let you make apps for us. We're going to make your apps. That's the only way that I think this can work. The problem with LG doing it, let's say that everyone...and it's not going to be the case, but let's say hypothetically LG has every app is hand coded by LG to fit into their interface or whatever. First off the cable issue, that's still insurmountable in some ways. But then it's like if Netflix makes an app and Hulu makes an app, those apps aren't going to have the same language. And for users it's extremely confusing when you're doing the same thing. I mean, Hulu doesn't do anything different than Netflix. It shows you videos. That's all it does. It plays videos. But going from one to the other is like night and day. So how can we expect to, how can any of these people expect to make a cohesive experience for consumers when they have to keep relying on somebody else's UI design? Right. But the thing with webOS in particular, and I've heard Samsung say this to you and I strongly suspect based on a year ago when I talked to LG when they bought webOS that their whole plan is to lean really heavily on HTML apps, web apps basically. Samsung's doing the same thing with their TV. I mean, they don't want to build platforms for televisions because those platforms. Are you about to hand out web apps as that was coming? No, I'm saying that if you, you know, Netflix is a web app, right? It's an HTML5 app. Yeah. It just deploys. And so they've handed over not even just like the little bit of control to like, here's some UI primitives and like make an app that looks like an iPhone app the way Apple does or like make an app that looks like an Android app the way Google does. It's, here's the web. Like you make a web app and it'll just show up on our TV and there's not even like any internal consistency to how you navigate those things because there can't be. And there was with webOS. That's what I'm curious about. Are they going to keep any of that? Who knows, right? And like, I don't, if all they really wanted was a really great like HTML rendering engine, it's like, I still don't know why they bought webOS. But I suspect it's all just designers. I mean, we'll see. It's like. At the end of the day, like you're not, you're not going to change the world with your smart TV because like you're not going to own the ecosystem, you're not going to get a huge market share because your smart TV is so great because people have a long upgrade cycle and they just use what they've got. And then if they want something better, they'll plug a box into it. So like the most you can expect from a smart TV, you can't expect it to solve like the cable problem. You can't expect it to like have a IR blaster to control your other things or do it all over HDMI, CEC or whatever it's called because that's a mess. So like the most you can expect is like just have apps and an interface that don't suck. And if they can reach that bar, they'll actually be doing better. But it's not going to be world changing. It's just going to be like a nice TV that isn't painful to use. And what's sad is that that's better than what most TVs are. I mean, I can't believe we're still talking about it. I mean, not this in particular, but how many years has it been this conversation about all the TVs, the next front? I mean, literally like a year or two years after the iPhone, like when it was known that it was a successful project and that people wanted it and it was a good product and people were buying it, project and product. People were like TVs, the next frontier. When are they going to crack TV? And we've like 76 years or whatever we've been saying like, when are they going to crack TV? And it's getting, but can I ask a question? Why do I have the fire behind me? Is this because it's after hours? Is that what the thing is? Okay, I just couldn't remember because it seems like you've got this nice background. Every time I see you on the monitor, like, oh, that's a cool background. And it's like, it's like Legend of Zelda. It's like Legend of Zelda behind me. It's a good fire. It's true. You do have nothing. It's home. But like, I'm getting really tired of the TV conversation. It's just like, I feel like there is no winning this. I feel like you've got too many interests from major players who have no reason. They're all making money. They've no reason to give up ground. I mean, if Apple could like somehow think of a way or LG could think of a way and they're not going to, or Samsung could think of a way to bring the TV industry to its knees and the movie industry and go like, check it out, guys. Now you got to come around to our way of thinking. Then you might have something, but they can't do it. The way that you would think they would do that is they would be able to move a ton of units that like gives them power. Right. So they- Yeah, sure, half the homes in America have LG smart TVs and then LG could be like, hey, guys. Right. We're going to get a 4K, we'll see. We need, there's nothing to make people go out and buy them. Also, it should be noted that for the average consumer, the possibilities of getting more TV and better TV have never been bigger and greater. I mean, I understand it's a pain in the ass, but it's still like Amazon Prime is like making shows that are actually somewhat decent. Only one, betas. I watch it. It's not that bad, honestly. Is that the Frat House one? No, it's the one, they have this funny, they have a show called Alpha House and they have a show called Betas, which is a Silicon Valley show that startup do. That's awful. It's pretty horrible most of the time, but sometimes it's actually- I haven't watched it yet. It's really good when they don't focus on anything having to do with the startup world. If they focus on anything that's like tech or startup, it's almost unwatchable. It's cool job syndrome. It's like every 90s, maybe people had cool jobs. Like Reality Bytes, Ben Stiller was like, I design Super Trains. It was like, that's not a real job. Ben Stiller's job in Reality Bytes was like a programmer. The other guy, the other boyfriend had Super Trains. This guy finished last design training. And Ben Stiller was the- Wait a second, wait a second. Ben Stiller was like an exact producer at MTV. And Ethan Hawke, not Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke was just a stoner. Who's the other person? I'm going to just go ahead and say right now in my mind, Empire Records, Reality Bytes, and the third one, which is actually the one I'm thinking of, are all completely messed up. I have no idea who he's talking about. I was going to say, you guys were talking about singles. Yeah, singles. But he was a Super Train designer. I feel like Empire Records is way later. In that genre? Yeah, it's like several years after the Reality Bytes singles. When people put those in those categories, I'm like, Gen Y. Yeah. No, that's Gen X, dude. Well, no, the other two movies are Gen X. Reality Bytes and singles are Gen X. Empire Records is Gen Y. Empire Records is Gen Y. Yeah. And if you think they go together, that means you're Gen Y. That's right. No, he's Gen Y. They're all just mixed up in my head. I'm Gen Y, and we're on the cusp. You guys are old. We're very old. I'm so old that I'm getting Andy Rooney-ish about TV solutions. I'm like, stop talking about their world. They're three years apart. What are you talking about? Hey, a lot happened. A lot of shit went down in three years, okay? Anyhow, I just don't want to talk about smart TVs anymore, okay? No one does. Can we have a... Okay, you guys are insane. Reality Bytes came out one year before Empire Records. Well, it feels like a lifetime based on what happened in between Reality Bytes and Empire Records. And Singles was first. Yeah, Singles was the one. Yeah. Singles... With the best soundtrack. What is that, 93? Singles was really the love, actually, of the genre. 92, and then Reality Bytes, 94? Yeah. And Empire Records, 95. Yeah. That all sounds right, because in 95, shit got whack. It all got bad in 95. What happened in 95? I think you know the truth. In my heart. You hit 95, and things started to get really bad. And 96 is when I knew it was over. Oh, 96 was a dead hell. 96 was the year I graduated high school. Exactly. That's exactly what we're talking about. Yeah. But things got really lame in 95. What Empire Records did. You know what? That was like the era of Batman and Robin. What year was Batman and Robin? Joel Schumacher's Batman and Robin? I bet it was 95. 94? 97. 97. That's when you knew it was over. No, no. You're so deep. What was the first Joel Schumacher Batman? The one with Val Kilmer. Oh, man. That was... Am I making this up, or did that happen? No, that happened. It feels like I'm making this up. That was the nipple Batman. That was the nipple... that was Schumacher on the move. Yeah. Just making it happen. Just making it happen. You really... By the way, when you look up Joel Schumacher on... I'm sure this is being tweeted at me right now. His Wikipedia page literally is like the Brat Pack, John Grisham, Batman, and then post Batman career, because I'm pretty sure that Batman destroyed his career. What the hell is the third... Batman Forever. Batman Forever. What year is that? 95. I rest my case. The show's over. It did have Kiss from a Rose by Seal. Kiss from a Rose is a great song on the library. So on the one hand, bad movie. On the other hand, great song. Seal, mysterious character. Very mysterious. Yeah. Okay, let's move on to Holmes. Anyhow, I would just rather not... Oh, man. By the way, somebody just tweeted at me that the year they were born was 1996. Yeah, it all went to hell. You're the generation... You're the problem. Yeah. You're the problem. Yeah. Okay. The super trans... You know what I hate? Is that what Andy Rie said? What? You know what I hate? Is that his thing? I'm sure he said that. Okay, go ahead. Well, actually, there's one more thing about TVs. The other thing that is important, which is the TVs we're talking about, the problems we're talking about are all sort of HD problems, and then the next big problem is how to get 4K content. I'm so sick of 4K. I'm already over 4K. You're just done? You're just never gonna get one? I mean, we know that... I don't want to get one. I don't get it. We know 4K is gonna be followed by 8K, so why not just do 8K right now? Because it's taking them five years to get a 4K... No, I don't buy it. It's just make more pixels. No, the problem... Get your pixel machine. Get your pixel machine, start it up, and just private print double the amount of pixels. Yeah, that'll work. And then glue that to a sheet, and then sell that to someone at the TV, because that's how it's done, as far as I know. I mean, when you saw HD, you're like, wow, this looks great. When you saw 4K, you were like, wow, this kind of looks like HD. Yes, I had that same reaction. Well, yeah, this looks pretty good, I guess. I have a friend who is a super high-end home theater person. You always have a friend. I do, I have a lot of friends. Yeah, you have a lot of friends. And they had the new Sony 4K TV in their office, and I definitely went over there, and we definitely sat around just watching the demo content. What else is there to watch? It was great, man. It was like an hour. Tulips? You know, it was like... Butterfalls? Yeah, some... Like a ladybug on a leaf. Yeah, it was under the sea, man. Fish. Oh, fish. Of course, of course. That's a whole different... Knocked a pussy's ass like a tenfold. A lot of people kept running out in the hallway and then coming back and being even more impressed with the fish. Really? You kind of know what I'm saying? I just... Look, I get it. I know it's going to take time, but seriously, do you really believe in 4K? For the big... Yeah. You want to hit your wagon in 4K? Yeah, I think people are going to start buying the Cs. What about 6K? What about 6K? Dude, over the holidays, I was in Best Buy, and they're already pushing them to consumers, and people are already like, ooh, that one. You were in the Sakai? No. You were in the Best Buy, looking at the 6K IT? No. Samsung and Sony and LG, they're all... I mean, they're the big players in the industry. They've already got the products in stores, and it's going to be just like HD was. Does that sound normal? No. That's the cat. Yeah. That's the cat. Right outside of our Studio 10 here, Caterpillar is selling rugged phones. And to show you how rugged they are... They have a giant crane. Right now, they're... They brought a bulldozer. They're bulldozing the phones. Yeah. And the phones are just... The phones are fine. Don't worry about it. You can drop them on the work site. Okay. The TVs are coming, right? They've got to get the content there. Yeah. Nobody has answers. I think YouTube is going to do something here. I think Netflix will probably do something here. We didn't have answers last year. Well, we had a demo on Netflix. We didn't have answers this year. Yeah, I think... I mean, it's been a year. If they don't have more answers, then there's nothing to say. But isn't the biggest problem bandwidth? Yeah. So, until we solve bandwidth, which, as far as I can tell, like, Time Warner and Comcast are throttling because they don't have enough of it to give out to people. That's what they claim. I think... Well, I don't know why. I think they're 100 percent... They're happy to tell you that if you seem to be using excess of their network, they'll throttle your ass. Right. I think they want to create... They want to make it seem like you always need to buy... They're just like the carriers of anybody else. They want to make it seem like you need to buy more because it's too slow and you're using so much. Right. And then they will turn around and say, well, our users aren't even using as much as they have. So, 4K for them is a... It's a win-win, right? They get to say, well, you need more to do 4K. And they get to turn around and say, well, government, we need less regulation because look at these new uses that we have to give to our customers. You think that's what it's going to be? Yeah, this is... The 4K is going to be the mover? This is like our hotel has Wi-Fi and you can either get the free tier and it says, like, good for email. Which is a joke. And then the fast tier is like, good for video. I don't think they know what email is like in the modern era. The email has images in it. It's not good for any email unless you're literally sending me HTML. I have for Pine. Oh, okay. Yeah, if you're using a command line. If you're watching singles and you... The Internet at the hotel is great. All right, so then the next one on our list, we talked about cars, we talked about TVs. I think smart homes are going to be a big deal here. There's all kinds of sensors. Smart homes? There's all kinds of sensors and stuff happening here. But we need... That's an area that is really, I hate myself for saying this, ripe for disruption. It's ripe for getting a bunch of this stuff to actually talk to each other and not be a million dollars to do it. Yeah. We need to work together. But when you think what you could do... Yeah, well, the issue is standards. But also, cohesive systems that are designed intelligently for the home don't really exist. I mean... Well, not in a way that is accessible to without spending a lot of money and doing a lot of setup and geeking out on it. A lot of them seem like extensions of weird Home Depot brands that you never come into contact with unless you're in a Home Depot and you need a doorbell. And now the doorbell company makes a complete system to wire your home up for automation. And you can buy the Home Depot starter pack. Yes. The best thing right now is Crestron. And people hate it. Yeah. I mean, they hate it. Some people love it, but they love it because they're really good. I just had a somewhat personal experience with the home, with my ADT alarm system. I'm not going to get into the details, but I will say that ADT... I would not subscribe to ADT if I were you because the entire thing is... Because they're home even if you're not. That's creepy. I think the whole alarm industry is like a Ponzi scheme. Yeah. It's like an elaborate scam. It's literally a protection racket. It is. It's a protection racket. And you don't need it. There are actually services... I've done some investigation, and this is something that's very exciting to me. Where you just put the flags. There are services where you can get your own sensors, your own carbon monoxide, smoke detectors, everything, base units. They work on cellular. Yeah. You don't have to sign up for a subscription. You pay way less money every month to get... It's still monitored. They still call the cops, all that stuff. But it's not part of this crazy... They were like... I'm like, yeah, I need to cancel my ADT service because it's never worked the entire time we've been here. And you've sent several people out and no one's been able to fix it. They're like, oh, yeah, you need the new pulse system. It's like, oh, that's interesting. The thing doesn't work, so you want to upgrade the system to something new and maybe have me sign up for a new contract. They're like, well, you can cancel it, but you'll have to pay the remainder of your contract, which is like $1,000. I was like, you have to be... I think I actually said this to a rep on the phone. I was like, you've got to be high if you think I'm going to pay you one more cent for the service that you have provided, which is no service at all. But the point is, I've decided anything... You should be very wary of anything you are locked into on contract that you are penalized for if you cancel your contract. To me, that's like saying, listen, our service sucks and you're going to be unhappy with it, but we're not going to let you get out of this contract. I feel like they're admitting that there's going to be something wrong with your service, which is why I think most of these phone contracts are basically scams. But anyhow, I'm ranting for no apparent reason. That's the thing, how do you make money putting your door locks into a house? It's not obvious. Because fine, you can sell some people new door locks, but you have to sell them something again. You're not going to upgrade your door locks in two years. There's a really finite market of people who are going to just change all the locks in their home. Right. And once you've captured them, they're done for. I mean, I would be all for doing something in my house that was monitoring electricity, heat and air conditioning, locks. I think this is where Nest is going. If you look at these companies and what they're doing, they're the only ones who seem to have done a good job of capturing both super nerdy people and regulars. Nest is building it, I'm hoping they're building it piece by piece. As long as each piece is like, oh, I actually want that on its own, eventually the dream of a system will come. But the problem with Nest is the same as the problem with Sonos, where Sonos is an amazing system if you want to listen to music all over your house. And if you want to listen to music from disparate sources, it's just really expensive. It's completely a luxury. Really weirdly proprietary. It's totally proprietary and completely a luxury item. I mean, it's better than... But you know what? In terms of proprietary systems, when you compare it to the kind of stuff that you're sold in the stores that sell high-end home automation shit, it's way better. I mean, in terms of simplicity and... No. In my family, there's a house that's all wired up with control. In my family, there's a house. There's a house. It's very big. He has a friend who lives there. There's a thing in the house. And control force. It's kind of close. It's like, it's bad. And it probably costs 10 times what a Sonos system... It's cool. The first time you use it, you're like, wow, I can... There's a remote control and you can turn off the lights or you can open an app and screw things. And then you're like, wow, I want to stream music for three hours and the whole thing crashes. I think the big problem is also that in a lot of homes, I mean, you're not going to rewire your outlets. Yeah. You're not going to rewire your switches. And that's why I think Belkin showed up with a bunch of LED light bulbs today. I think it unveiled... There's a crock pot. What do you mean? I don't know why you need to have your crock pot connected. In an instant, man. Oh, yeah. First you want your crock pot connected. Yeah. Slow cook. In a minute, set it up. You want to keep an eye on it. It's a slow... But it is exactly the opposite of why you need to be notified. Slow cooking is the exact opposite of things that you need to be notified about. It's like... You can't ruin it. No, it's like it's cooking forever and then at some point it'll be done, but it doesn't really matter when you get to it because it's just going to keep cooking. Yeah. You don't need to get an alert on your smartphone that your crock pot item is... What if there's a magic recipe that the temperature needs to rise and then fall and then rise again and you get control with your phone? Okay. That could be useful actually now that you mention it. But I do think that the... I have no idea if such a recipe exists. No, no. I don't think it does. But I do think that the idea of a connected home that is controllable and responsive to all sorts of factors... I read Netanyahu's writing an angry comment about the Packers on a SB Nation Packers. What's the Packers blog called? Acme packing company. Acme packing company. Acme packing company? Yeah. That's good. And you are a member of the community. I am, but I... I'm a member of the daily... I was actually just working on a tweet. That's the Vikings. The Internet of Raised Meats. The Vikings are also not going to the Super Bowl. The Vikings, no. They're running away from the Super Bowl as fast as they can. And they have since they were founded. So anyhow, but I do think the home automation sector is really interesting. And the problem with home automation is it's really hard. It's confusing and complicated. Way more so than a TV situation, in my opinion. There's so many more factors. And how do you get people to adopt... There are more factors, but the thing that's frustrating about home automation is there aren't institutional giant monopolies blocking progress. With TV, you can get pissed off at Comcast, but with home automation, you just have to get pissed off at them not doing it. Right. This is complicated. It's basically it. The reason Nest is good at what they're doing is because they're only attacking one problem. They're focusing on really finite problems. That smoke detector is cool. I think a lot of people bought them over Christmas. The Best Buy on my hometown was constantly sold out. But I don't know... I'm still not going to buy one. I don't know what it's for. But if you live in a house, in a regular size house, you need more than one smoke detector. Right. It becomes very expensive. The problem is how do you justify the $129 smoke detector? Even if it's awesome, you really just need it to go like, your house is on fire. Well, I just think like gadgety people who spend $139 or $129, they're only going to be happy with their gadget if they can play with their toys. And the only way you get to play with a smoke detector is when there's a fire. There's a horrible problem in your house. Honey, it burned the house down because the smoke detector talks to it. It really, really worked well. It really gave us the information. Yeah, I just think it's a tough nut to crack. And I think that... It went down again. What, the Wi-Fi's down? Yeah. So that's smart home. The other big ones here, we can just go through them. There's going to be a lot of wearables here. I think there's going to be a lot of... NVIDIA has a press conference that's actually starting very soon. I think there's going to be a lot of focus on gaming. Obviously tablets and PCs are like, they're always big here. I think we're going to see a lot of... You know, Sean did a report about PC manufacturers moving to Android, like with a big push from Intel. I think we're going to see a lot of Chromebooks too. I think we'll see a lot of Chromebooks. Really? Yeah. I think we'll see... Is it just Chromebook partners or is it just anybody can make a Chromebook? I think anybody can make a Chromebook. I think they probably want Google's blessing. Yeah. Right. But like... Well, actually... So you think maybe we'll start to see Chromebooks with crapware on them? That'd be the worst. How is this... Is Chrome OS open source? Yeah. And then you can just Chrome, right? Like, here's what I'm... I think Chrome OS is proprietary. I think it's like you need the keys to the kingdom. Let's use this... Here we go. We don't have internet. You don't have internet. There's Chromium, like what Chrome is based on. Chromium is open. But Chromium OS is not now. The Chromium OS is not now. Right. So you do a Chromium OS device... Yeah, but look, I was talking to one of the audits and Becky's mom bought a $400 gateway laptop from Walmart. She was like, bought it for herself. She didn't ask. I would have told her not to do such a thing. Yes, you should have. And it's just the worst piece of junk. And Windows 8 is terrible on it. Like, it's been... Whatever Windows 8... Whatever positive benefits Windows 8 might have in this world have been ruined by crapware. It makes no sense. She hates it. I basically spent a weekend turning it back into Windows 7 so she would like using it. And the whole time I was thinking, the only thing she wants to do on this computer is like run Chrome. Right? Fundamentally that's what I'm getting. I'm getting this to a place where she can run Chrome and like a handful of these other apps. And... Just install Chromium on it. Yeah. Just do a boot. This is called Linux. It's going to be weird. Yeah. But I get it. The thing about Chromebooks is they make those cheap laptops not terrible. Right. Because you can't do that much. I mean, what you can do just works. There are... I definitely could see myself with a Chromebook on a regular basis in the near future. I just don't think... Play it loud, guys. Super, super, super loud. And that's the merch, guys. I mean, I think we're going to see... That is really crazy loud. Yeah. Now, I think Microsoft is actually terrified of this, you see. The sense that I've gotten is that Intel is pushing for this Android on Windows concept, which is maybe just to get leverage back into the game. I think Intel has no leverage because they don't make smartphone chips that are of any value. And I really do not want Android apps on Windows. Like, if I've got a Windows PC, I'd rather have stuff native to it because Android apps still aren't the best. Here's what I'd like. Android apps on a Chromebook. Yeah. That's honestly... That would be... If I could run windowed versions of apps and get notifications the way I get them on my phone collected into an Android, some area... Sorry, not Android. Some area in Chrome that works the same way. Yeah. And I was like, you know what? I want to use the Twitter Android app. And I'm going to use... You wouldn't ever say that. I wouldn't say that, but I... Open source is called Chromium OS. Right. And then Chrome OS is a commercial version that has partners from Google. So if you want Chrome OS, you've got to be a Google partner. I don't think we're going to see Chrome... But that's just like Android, right? But I don't think we're going to see Huawei through a Chromium... No. They're going to do a blessed laptop. Yeah. Sure. They're all going to be blessed. I don't think Huawei is going to make anything. No one's going to show... Right. I'm just saying no one's going to show anything off that's not blessed by Google at this point. Right. But... So I think it would be really interesting to be able to say, okay, let's use a different example. Let's use... What's an app I use all the time on my phone? Instagram. Right. My Instagram app. I'm going to say I want to open up a little window running Instagram in my whatever resolution it needs to be to sit there. And then that'll be a windowed app with notifications that's happening. And then I'm going to go over here and use a full-fledged browser. The only thing missing from mobile right now is like desktop browsing, right? There are many, many apps that I use on my desktop that... I mean, even with an iPad, it's great. But you still want to be able to have the dynamism, if that's the word that I want to use, of a desktop browser of being able to access several tabs at the same time, really work within... Yeah. But I do think when I look at what I'm looking at, I have a Tweetbot on my Mac. I mean, Tweetbot is essentially a mobile app. I mean, their OS 10 version is not wildly different than their iOS version. Right. And it's moved some UI around or whatever. But it's like that's... To me, that's the future. And some blending of like web only with basically their micro apps, really. Yeah. But I think we're going to... App snacking. App snacking. Micro snacks. Do we own that or not? App snacking. We used to. I just let a lot of my domains expire. Yeah. I'm actually like in the process of cleaning out my domains because I have so many ridiculous domains. Yeah. Like I've been paying $15 a month for a lot of extremely... Netbooknude.com. I don't know if I've talked about this before, but at some point I owned Facebook with eight A's. Wow. Facebook. I probably still do. I'm probably going to get a season decision from Facebook now. I think the only one that I still own is like isfarvertired.com when he was like... No, no. Just the Instagram. The young guys with your footballs. Look, man. It's just rough. I'm going through the grieving process, okay? I'll hit acceptance at some point. It's not going to happen now. I mean... RamyMOS says a tweeter lacks Flash MP3 and MP4 support. Heavens no. Well... Dude, I can't wait for Flash to die. I can't wait for Flash to die. Like I honestly... Whatever. Flash is never dying. Yeah. Okay. And then the last sort of big category that we can talk about, I think wearables and phones are like... They're the big ones. I think gaming is like... We can talk about it, but Nvidia is really about to do a thing like any moment now. So wearables is going to be insane for like... Everybody saw Pebble win. This year it's going to be... Oh, boy. The beeping. Can you guys hear the beeping? I hope something comes crashing through. All I want to happen is a backhoe... Well, that wouldn't be good for you, Sarah, but you'd move, I'm sure, in time. I just want a backhoe to just come crashing through the studio and just end right here. And then stop. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're like... That's the first pass for this. And then a guy like throws a caterpillar phone at you. It just... It unloads a bunch of caterpillar phones on this table. And there's this huge stack of rugged phones and tablets. Carry on. They are surprisingly ugly, by the way. I guess. By the way. Have you seen the phones? I don't know. I wouldn't expect them to be cool. Yeah. Well, they're just like a... Would you expect a caterpillar phone to be cool? I don't know. I would expect it to look like one of those military phones with the thing. You know? But that would be cool. No, it wouldn't. Yeah, it would. Like... Wait, you mean with like the crank that they use in like... Yeah, with the crank. No, okay, not that. That's not what I thought you were talking about. That's what I thought I was talking about. I mean, that's what I was talking about. The big old Motorola's. Yeah. Oh. I've lost the thread on wearables. Werewolves. You say werewolves? Wearables. But werewolves also... I mean, I see a lot of werewolves at CES this year. You don't realize this, but a lot of children of the night here in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. I actually have seen several... I rate it like Canthro. I wish I'd seen several vampire-esque individuals wandering the streets of Vegas. Oh, vampires, not werewolves. Well, I said children of the night. I consider werewolves and vampires to both be children of the night. Also succubi. Really? Zombies. I can't... I mean... Ghosts. Yeah. I mean, I can't... Mummies. Yeah. And chihuahuas. Chihuahuas. Angry chihuahuas. Angry chihuahuas. Yeah. I like that whoever runs the Hyundai USA Twitter account is watching the road chats right now and thanked us for mentioning them. Do we mention Hyundai? We did. Do you Hyundai? That's really... Whatever you say. Hyundai? How do you say it? Hyundai. I want to get a Korean in here to tell me exactly how to pronounce it. But no, it's... It is Korean, right? Yeah. They sell cars to American people. You can tell CES is already happening. Yeah. We're just out of control. Things do not seem normal. So let me ask you a question. Yeah. What's keeping you from... You had a Fitbit, right? I had one. You don't wear it anymore. No, it was too depressing. I started buying back up for CES because of all the wearables. I don't think anybody who works in the journalism industry... Who needs a Fitbit. Should wear a Fitbit. Yeah. Because I think it gives you a bad self-image. Of how many steps... You should... You should take more steps. It gives you an image... It gives you an idea of yourself that is... So my take on this is that there's only been three wearables in November. Go back to that shot. Go back to my single. Oh, here we go. Where did your fire go? Don't you want me here? I've been over here the whole time. What? Oh, the fire's back. Oh, God. This really is already happening. Hyundai is like Sunday, I'm told. By Hyundai USA. There you go. Sunday. Yeah. Sunday cars. Yeah. That's good. So it's just Hyundai? Hyundai. Like Sunday. What is Vampire Vegas? What was that? What was that? What was that? Oh, Vampires in Vegas. Yeah. That looks like it's great. This is a show? This is a reality. This is a sequel to Empire Records. Oh, my God. Wow. That is great. What comes to Vegas dies in Vegas. Interesting. The bloody dice. Interesting. Different kind of tagline for Vegas. What comes to Vegas dies in Vegas. I really like that. So here's my theory. There's only three wearables that have ever been successful or worthwhile. Are you saying werewolves? Werewolves. It really sounds like werewolves. There's only been three successful werewolves in history. The one from American Werewolf in London. He wasn't that successful though. The one from Paris. Yeah. And then the one from the Halle. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Well, what about the... The Teen Wolf. And the Wolfman. Teen Wolf. So we're actually one of the three. Teen Wolf for sure. Teen Wolf 2, not so much. The original Wolfman. Sorry, Jason. Benicio del Toro's Wolfman. Isn't that movie terribly violent? I don't know. I have no idea. I think it's terribly sexy is what it is. Well, werewolves. Anyhow, there's only three successful wearables. What is this? Is this real? Is this real? Is this real? Is it a movie? It's whatever it is. Oh, it's a book. I think you know the songs. A wild... Oh, it's a wild about you novel. A wild about you novel. Is it like the sitcom? Is it like... I get it. It's mad about you. Oh, damn it. Which by the way, would have been way better if Helen Haughan turned into a werewolf at the end of it. Like that's how it ended. No, I get it. No, I get it. Wild about you because they're like creatures. They're like animals. And they're also in love. Right. Animals in love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're animals in love. That one... A lot of that in Vegas too actually. All right, go on. I'm just trying to say werewolves without getting back on the wheels. Okay, there's been three successful werewolves. Three. The pebble. Yeah. The Fuel band and the Fitbit. That's it. Wait a second. What about the... What about the... What about the... What about the... What about the... What about the Rebac? The Rebac Pump? No. The Pump. What? Yeah. Also sunglasses are very successful. The Rebac Pump. I think the job on Up was a fail, they had to recall it because it didn't work and they had to sell it again. The shine, that little circle is like hairs. It's by Google Glass. Yeah. Does somebody just moan? Is that a werewolf? When you say Google Glass, a werewolf is crying. You know what would be scary? A werewolf in Google Glass. Imagine that. It would be so ineffective. I'm just picturing Scoble covered in fur. I don't think you need a picture. The problem is, can you get a picture of that? I think you can. I think you can. I think you can. I think you can. I think you can. I think you can. I think you can. I think you can. I think you can. The problem is, can Google Glass be able to understand the werewolf growling, okay glass? Werewolf Bar Mitzvah. Is that a book? No, Werewolf Bar Mitzvah is a song from 30 Rock, which is an amazing song. How weird. Yeah, you know the lyrics, it's boys becoming men, men becoming wolves. Nope. Nope. Those are the lyrics. Okay, so those are the only three that we've been at it for a while and Google's been doing Glass. I think there's going to be a bar at this show, I think there's going to be tons of really crappy wearables. And I think they're all going to fall far below that level of success. They need to make them look good and they need to not overcomplicate them. I think look good is actually, here's the thing with Glass, it's not useful all the time, right? So if you're going to wear something on your body, it's got to be useful all the time. Glass is mostly not useful. It mostly does nothing. You're just a jerk. Well, unless you're on your mountain bike. It's still not too useful. Or getting a text message. Or taking pictures of your loved ones. Or traveling to a destination. You don't do those things permanently, right? Yeah, you do. If you're a good guy, if you're always checking out your loved ones. You're always texting. That'd be real deja vu. Did we have this conversation last CES? No, there was no Glass last CES. Oh yeah, that's right. Was there? I don't know. I don't really know. No, because your Google Glass piece was in our office. We moved it into the office in February. What are we talking about? I'm just saying, I think there's going to be, there's a flood of wearables coming here. Did you hear that? No. Did you hear there's a flood of werewolves coming here? That's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing flood of werewolves. Yes. Am I crazy? Is anybody else hearing this? That is what... Yeah, okay. There are people here. And you better watch it. I think you do. I don't know you. The fucking wolves are coming out. The werewolves are coming. We're done. I have a meeting. You're saying a flood of wearables. Wearables. You got to annunciate the word wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Wearables. Well, I think that about wraps it up. We've been on for an hour. Wednesday's a full moon. It's a nightmare over here. And I think Pebbles is going to release their newest werewolf. Oh, their newest werewolf? So do you have any other topics? Not really. Did anybody learn anything? We need to go through... I forgot what was coming. Tomorrow is a big day. Tomorrow is a big day. So NVIDIA tonight starts at eight. Last year NVIDIA's press conference was like three hours long. And they released the Shield. Which shocked the world. NVIDIA has been a shock segment of the world. NVIDIA has historically... I'm really hoping they release the sword today. NVIDIA has historically been unexciting. But they were very exciting last year, particularly because of the sexist moments of their... Do you remember there was... I don't know if anybody remembers this. Can we get a still of this? There's like the CEO was like offering a scantily clad woman a drink at a bar. Who doesn't do that? Telling her about the new GeForce chipset. Did I make that up? I don't remember. No, I think that happened. He was like, hey, check out, I'm streaming a PC game on the Shield. And then he dropped it and asked her to pick it up. And then he checked out her behind and he did that thing with his glasses where he was like that. And then the song... I've never understood the... The song, Oh Yeah, by Yellow started playing. Yes, there it is. None of that stuff. I've never understood the glasses thing, by the way. As a man who usually wears glasses. No, it's like you have your glasses on for reading and then you see a sweet car or a sweet babe across the street. Yeah, is it because I'm nearsighted? Because someone's like, check out that hot chick. What would she look like blurry? Because that's what that is for them. It makes no sense. No, you're de-blurring it so you can see more of what's going on over there. I don't understand. And then Yellow's Oh Yeah begins playing out of the blue. Okay, fine, I get it. It's like a reverse deal with it. Actually, it's like an extra deal. Never mind. No, it's a reverse deal. It falls. Reverse would go up. It's like, I can't deal with this. That's what it is. Yeah. Are we done yet? We're done. NVIDIA tonight, tomorrow morning, LG at 8am Pacific, 11am. Wait, wait, NVIDIA what time? NVIDIA's tonight at 8am. Tonight at 8am. And that will probably go from 8 to 8. That's 11 o'clock East Coast. Correct. So if you're on the East Coast, if you're not in Los Angeles... Do not sleep, ever. 11 o'clock, NVIDIA's going to do something sexy or sexist or amazing. Or all three. We'll see. It'll have chips. Yeah. Tomorrow morning, 8am, 11am Eastern is LG. Obviously, it's web watched TV. Life's good. Life's good. And probably some washing machines. You never know, it's LG. They do a lot of things. Or washing machines as they call them in the South. You two are going to be back at this desk after LG is done. What? You two are going to be here for the Verge Live. Oh yeah, Dieter and I are going to do... Oh, that's right. We're going to have post-game analysis. Not NVIDIA tonight because it's so crazy ass late. But tomorrow after the first LG event, which is at 8 in the morning, 11am. And basically starting from 8, we're going to have all these press conferences streaming on our video hub. Yep. And live blogs. We'll have video for basically 11 hours tomorrow between press conferences, Verge Live, hands-ons, interviews, all that stuff that's going on tomorrow. So just put this in your pipe and smoke it, Mobile Accomplishers. Is that what you call them? Yes. Dieter really didn't want to acknowledge that. Dieter, Bones, and Josh Dupolsky, two webOS aficionados, will be critiquing the webOS TV following the webOS TV announcement. Right. Yeah. Buckle up, Mobile Accomplishers. And then Samsung is at 2pm, followed by another Verge Live, which I figure who's going to be on that one. Could be anybody. I'll probably be around because I'm... Valve and Sony, I'm actually going to be live-blogging Sony because it's a tradition of mine. Valve and Sony are doing something together? No, no, they're at the same time. That would be the same, wouldn't it? They're having it at the same time. Yeah. That would be... Sony's making a steam box. They're like, you know what the PS4 is? It's a little... And Sony, there's big stuff going on with Sony because they got Phil Molyneux's ad, they've got a new president. It's cause he's won Sony. So Sony's at 5, and actually it's... We're right in front of Central Hall, our kind of setup here has moved this year. So I'm going to live-blog Sony and come straight back here, and we're going to do the Vergecast instead of a Verge live right after Sony at 6. By the way, people are really mad that I cut you off from talking about wearables by asking if you were talking about werewolves. Oh, here's the thing. Most werewolves suck. Werewolves? Most werewolves suck. Most werewolves suck. I think you're thinking of vampires. Werewolves are cool. Who laughed? Who laughed at that? Was that John? It was good. Really? Okay. He'd laugh at anything, though, so I'm not going to take too much. I'm not going to feel like that was a freebie. Whatever, man. Team Edward. We'll have live-blogs for most of these. Did you just say Team Edward? I don't know what I just said. I'm sorry. Did anybody hear him say Team Edward under his breath? He did. Edward is one of the worst all-time characters ever in the history of... I've only ever seen one of those movies. You should see all of your three movies. Here's what I remember. You should see all of them. The only thing I remember about that movie, I'll admit... You've got to see the last two. It was very late at night. I had come out from a night being out. Out, out. And I watched the baseball scene, which has some of the worst CGI. Oh, my God. The first movie is like a work of art. No, I'm not even kidding. I'm not sure... The first movie is like a high art. It's like a weird... It's like a B movie. Yeah. It's like Plan 9 from Outer Space, but it's the most popular young adult novel of all time. And it's about vampires and werewolves. It's based on Sparkle. Extremely celibate. Sparkle. Sparkle. I just like just rewatch the first movie and tell me if you don't think every time Bella and Edward speak to one another, it looks like they're both about to throw up. They ate something very bad. There's so many looks in that movie. Can we get a little bit of... How did we even find this? They just did. Just look at... They're going to talk to each other. Just get a look at them. Look. Look. He's sick. No, no, no, no, no. He's been alive for so long. Show any... Look. She looks totally nauseous in every one of these shots. Look. Okay, they were smiling there, which is weird. See, you can't really tell them this. You need to see an extended... Can we get just a shot of them? Oh my God. It's so bad. No, but you need to see the last two. I don't really want to. The end of the... What are the last two films called? Breaking Dawn. Breaking Dawn parts one and two. The end of Breaking Dawn part one is so disturbing that you will never forget what happens, and it will mess you up permanently. Well, I got to go, because I got to go watch Breaking Dawn part one. You really should see all of them. All right. Look, we're going to have a Twilight marathon after the press conference is tomorrow, after the Verge cast. We're just... Through that tonight, we're just going to run Twilight. Does that make sense? Yeah. Anything else going on tomorrow? Makes perfect sense. We're just going to have a lot of stuff. I look at our calendar and it's a bit of pain. I want to tell you guys that our stream is just running tomorrow, so you can hit... You can literally hit play in our video player at 8 a.m. tomorrow morning and just let it run all day. We're going to be broadcasting nonstop. I don't even know what's happening. I'm just laughing at... Laura June is quoting you. What did I do? I think there are going to be tons of crappy werewolves. Now that we know that the word wearables and werewolves are so closely connected, we need to do something special with that. I don't know what it is, but I feel like we've just started to unlock the specialness of CES. It's happening. I think that we've just begun to taste the sweet nectar of the nonsense that is the Verge at CES. Yeah. Delicious, succulent, moist nectar of CES. I'm letting you live with that all by yourself. Moist nectar. Moist, succulent, and moist. Isn't it moist by... Definitely, never mind. Yes, moisture by... The moisture does seem to be implied when you say nectar, but this is a particularly moist nectar, is what I'm saying, and succulent. This is not a Wikipedia entry I ever thought I'd read. What are you reading? In botany, succulent plants, also known as the succulents or sometimes the fat plants, are plants having some parts that are more normally thickened and fleshy. That's disgusting. It's hard for the fat plants. Yeah, turning tomorrow, we're going to have a lot more werewolves. We're going to have coverage of 4K. Werewolves in 4K. Yeah, 4K werewolves. What else? That's my new band name. What else is there? Is that it? Tomorrow is the news day. Yeah, there's a lot of... Tomorrow and Tuesday are the biggest stages of news at CES. Tomorrow morning, the Verge is going to get real gadgety, real CES-y. We should talk about that a little bit. So we're going to get real gadgety, but we have a big CES hub, and then we have a CES wire. Yeah, that's right, because we're not going to put everything on the front page. If you're looking for everything, I strongly suggest you go to the CES hub. We also have a news wire, which is basically like the dream of the Verge 1 Percenters, which is a blog, basically a blog of every single thing that we hit at CES. I think if you saw our coverage last year, you know we're going to do it a little bit differently. We are not going to hit every story. We're not going to cover every router. You will not see... We're not going to cover every router. What? We're not going to be... All my plans are ruined. Here's what we're doing. We're trying to find the most interesting, coolest stuff and put it on our pages for you guys to read about. We have some really, really cool stories tomorrow. Already we've got a handful of things that I think are pretty fascinating. I've already done at least one thing that I think perfectly sums up why I want to be at CES every year, and it's not just the werewolves. That's why I'm here. It's not just the werewolves. God, I wish there was a technology that sounded like vampires. That's everyone's homework for the night. Think of a technology that sounds like vampires. Think of what is a technology that when you say it out loud could be mistaken for you saying vampires. And then we will make a Twilight remix. Zombie also could be good if you can think of something that sounds like zombies. We'll be eating bacon. Well, Neal, I will. Oh, boy. Oh, also, that's the other thing. We're doing... Every day we're doing this thing called No Filter, which is a stream of our tweets and our Instagrams and just random shit that we're doing here at CES that you guys... It's live updating. It's like a live blog, essentially. It's just us being the verge at CES. It's weird. It's backstage. It's behind the scenes. Here's a... Everybody working hard with this. CES unveiled right now, too. Scroll down a little so they can see what's going on. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on. We're doing weird pictures from the trailer and stuff that we go do. And, oh, my God, another plane. Yeah, I think that's a sign. That's definitely a sign. That's a plane full of werewolves. What was that? Oh, my God, is it a backhoe? Oh, my God, is it a backhoe? Oh, my God, is it a backhoe? Oh, my God, is it a backhoe? No, like the tent, like, shook. It was a backhoe hitting us. It's gonna be fine. It might be. All right, that's the Vergecast for Sunday night at CES. We'll be back tomorrow. Right after Sony. No, after LG. Oh, the Vergecast will be back tomorrow after Sony in the evening, but we'll be back broadcasting, doing live coverage. We'll have live streams of shows. We will have live analysis afterwards. We're gonna have tons of product videos and hands-ons and all sorts of crazy stuff, reports. Tomorrow is where it gets really crazy, so stay tuned to The Verge. And we'll be back tomorrow night. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, even though they're probably going to be attacked by werewolves. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. That's the end of the show. | [
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"text": " Yeah that thing is a piece of crap, the Seiki."
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"text": " When are they going to crack TV?"
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"text": " And we've like 76 years or whatever we've been saying like, when are they going to crack"
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"text": " And it's getting, but can I ask a question?"
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"text": " Why do I have the fire behind me?"
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"text": " Is this because it's after hours?"
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"text": " Is that what the thing is?"
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"text": " And it's like, it's like Legend of Zelda."
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"text": " and the movie industry and go like, check it out, guys."
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"text": " Now you got to come around to our way of thinking."
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"text": " Then you might have something, but they can't do it."
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"text": " The way that you would think they would do that is they would be able to move a ton of"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " So they-"
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"text": " Yeah, sure, half the homes in America have LG smart TVs and then LG could be like, hey,"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " We're going to get a 4K, we'll see."
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"text": " Also, it should be noted that for the average consumer, the possibilities of getting more"
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"text": " It's really good when they don't focus on anything having to do with the startup world."
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"text": " Wait a second, wait a second."
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"text": " Ben Stiller was like an exact producer at MTV."
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"text": " Who's the other person?"
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"text": " I have no idea who he's talking about."
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"text": " I was going to say, you guys were talking about singles."
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"text": " Yeah, singles."
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"text": " But he was a Super Train designer."
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"text": " I feel like Empire Records is way later."
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"text": " In that genre?"
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"text": " Yeah, it's like several years after the Reality Bytes singles."
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"text": " No, that's Gen X, dude."
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"text": " Well, no, the other two movies are Gen X."
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"text": " What are you talking about?"
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"text": " Hey, a lot happened."
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"text": " A lot of shit went down in three years, okay?"
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"text": " Anyhow, I just don't want to talk about smart TVs anymore, okay?"
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"text": " No one does."
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"text": " Can we have a..."
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"text": " Singles..."
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"text": " With the best soundtrack."
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"text": " What is that, 93?"
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"text": " Singles was really the love, actually, of the genre."
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"text": " 92, and then Reality Bytes, 94?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And Empire Records, 95."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That all sounds right, because in 95, shit got whack."
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"text": " What happened in 95?"
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"text": " I think you know the truth."
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"text": " In my heart."
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"text": " You hit 95, and things started to get really bad."
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"text": " And 96 is when I knew it was over."
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"text": " Oh, 96 was a dead hell."
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"text": " 96 was the year I graduated high school."
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"text": " Exactly."
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"text": " That's exactly what we're talking about."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " But things got really lame in 95."
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"text": " What Empire Records did."
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"text": " You know what?"
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"text": " That was like the era of Batman and Robin."
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"text": " What year was Batman and Robin?"
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"text": " That's when you knew it was over."
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"text": " No, no."
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"text": " You're so deep."
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"text": " What was the first Joel Schumacher Batman?"
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"text": " The one with Val Kilmer."
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"text": " Oh, man."
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"text": " No, that happened."
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"text": " That was the nipple... that was Schumacher on the move."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Just making it happen."
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"text": " You really..."
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"text": " By the way, when you look up Joel Schumacher on..."
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"text": " I'm sure this is being tweeted at me right now."
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"text": " His Wikipedia page literally is like the Brat Pack, John Grisham, Batman, and then post"
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"text": " Batman Forever."
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"text": " What year is that?"
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"text": " 95."
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"text": " I rest my case."
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"text": " The show's over."
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"text": " It did have Kiss from a Rose by Seal."
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"text": " Kiss from a Rose is a great song on the library."
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"text": " On the other hand, great song."
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"text": " Seal, mysterious character."
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"text": " Very mysterious."
},
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"start": 1522.16,
"end": 1523.16,
"text": " Yeah."
},
{
"start": 1523.16,
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"text": " Okay, let's move on to Holmes."
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"start": 1524.16,
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"text": " Anyhow, I would just rather not..."
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"text": " Oh, man."
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"text": " By the way, somebody just tweeted at me that the year they were born was 1996."
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"text": " Yeah, it all went to hell."
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"text": " You're the generation..."
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"text": " You're the problem."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"start": 1534.72,
"end": 1535.72,
"text": " You're the problem."
},
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"text": " Yeah."
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"start": 1536.72,
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"text": " Okay."
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"start": 1537.72,
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"text": " The super trans..."
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"text": " You know what I hate?"
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"text": " Is that what Andy Rie said?"
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"text": " What?"
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"text": " You know what I hate?"
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"text": " Is that his thing?"
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"text": " I'm sure he said that."
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"text": " Okay, go ahead."
},
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"text": " Well, actually, there's one more thing about TVs."
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"text": " The other thing that is important, which is the TVs we're talking about, the problems"
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"text": " we're talking about are all sort of HD problems, and then the next big problem is how to get"
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"text": " 4K content."
},
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"text": " I'm so sick of 4K."
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"text": " I'm already over 4K."
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"end": 1558.56,
"text": " You're just done?"
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"end": 1559.56,
"text": " You're just never gonna get one?"
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"start": 1559.56,
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"text": " I mean, we know that..."
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"text": " I don't want to get one."
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"text": " I don't get it."
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"text": " We know 4K is gonna be followed by 8K, so why not just do 8K right now?"
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"text": " Because it's taking them five years to get a 4K..."
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"text": " No, I don't buy it."
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"text": " It's just make more pixels."
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"text": " No, the problem..."
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"text": " Get your pixel machine."
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{
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"text": " Get your pixel machine, start it up, and just private print double the amount of pixels."
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"text": " Yeah, that'll work."
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"text": " And then glue that to a sheet, and then sell that to someone at the TV, because that's"
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"text": " Butterfalls?"
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"text": " Like a ladybug on a leaf."
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"text": " Yeah, it was under the sea, man."
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"text": " Oh, fish."
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"text": " Right outside of our Studio 10 here, Caterpillar is selling rugged phones."
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"text": " And the phones are just..."
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"text": " The TVs are coming, right?"
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"text": " Oh, okay."
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"text": " And you've sent several people out and no one's been able to fix it."
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"text": " It's like, oh, that's interesting."
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"text": " I feel like they're admitting that there's going to be something wrong with your service,"
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"text": " which is why I think most of these phone contracts are basically scams."
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"text": " That's the thing, how do you make money putting your door locks into a house?"
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"text": " Because fine, you can sell some people new door locks, but you have to sell them something"
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"text": " again."
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"text": " You're not going to upgrade your door locks in two years."
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"text": " There's a really finite market of people who are going to just change all the locks in"
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"text": " their home."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " And once you've captured them, they're done for."
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"text": " That's good."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " But like..."
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"text": " Well, actually..."
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"text": " That'd be the worst."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And then you can just Chrome, right?"
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"text": " The Chromium OS is not now."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " So you do a Chromium OS device..."
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"text": " Right?"
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"text": " Fundamentally that's what I'm getting."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Just do a boot."
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"text": " This is called Linux."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " But I get it."
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"text": " The thing about Chromebooks is they make those cheap laptops not terrible."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " I'm just saying no one's going to show anything off that's not blessed by Google at this point."
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"text": " What's an app I use all the time on my phone?"
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"text": " My Instagram app."
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"text": " Just the Instagram."
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"text": " The young guys with your footballs."
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"text": " Look, man."
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"text": " It's just rough."
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"text": " And then the last sort of big category that we can talk about, I think wearables and phones"
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"text": " And then we're like..."
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"text": " Carry on."
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"text": " Well, they're just like a..."
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"text": " But that would be cool."
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"text": " Yeah, with the crank."
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"text": " No, okay, not that."
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"text": " Oh."
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"text": " Zombies."
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"text": " Ghosts."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"start": 2695.8,
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"text": " I mean, I can't..."
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"text": " Mummies."
},
{
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " And chihuahuas."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I like that whoever runs the Hyundai USA Twitter account is watching the road chats right now"
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"text": " Do you Hyundai?"
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"text": " Hyundai?"
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"text": " Hyundai."
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"text": " I want to get a Korean in here to tell me exactly how to pronounce it."
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"text": " They sell cars to American people."
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"text": " You can tell CES is already happening."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " We're just out of control."
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"text": " Things do not seem normal."
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"text": " So let me ask you a question."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " What's keeping you from..."
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"end": 2729.56,
"text": " You had a Fitbit, right?"
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"start": 2729.56,
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"text": " I had one."
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"text": " You don't wear it anymore."
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"text": " No, it was too depressing."
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"text": " I don't think anybody who works in the journalism industry..."
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"text": " Should wear a Fitbit."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Because I think it gives you a bad self-image."
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"start": 2742.68,
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"text": " Of how many steps..."
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"text": " You should..."
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"text": " You should take more steps."
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"start": 2745.68,
"end": 2746.68,
"text": " It gives you an image..."
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"text": " It gives you an idea of yourself that is..."
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"text": " So my take on this is that there's only been three wearables in November."
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"text": " Go back to that shot."
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"text": " Go back to my single."
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"text": " Oh, here we go."
},
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"text": " Where did your fire go?"
},
{
"start": 2755.76,
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"text": " Don't you want me here?"
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"text": " I've been over here the whole time."
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"text": " What?"
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{
"start": 2760.76,
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"text": " Oh, the fire's back."
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{
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"text": " Oh, God."
},
{
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"text": " This really is already happening."
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{
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"text": " Hyundai is like Sunday, I'm told."
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"text": " By Hyundai USA."
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"text": " There you go."
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"text": " Sunday."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Sunday cars."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That's good."
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"text": " Hyundai."
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"text": " What is Vampire Vegas?"
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"text": " What was that?"
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"text": " Oh, Vampires in Vegas."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That looks like it's great."
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"text": " This is a show?"
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"text": " This is a reality."
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"text": " This is a sequel to Empire Records."
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"text": " Wow."
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"text": " That is great."
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"text": " The bloody dice."
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"text": " Interesting."
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"text": " There's only three wearables that have ever been successful or worthwhile."
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"text": " Are you saying werewolves?"
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"text": " Werewolves."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And then the one from the Halle."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That's it."
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"text": " That's it."
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"text": " Well, what about the..."
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"text": " Sorry, Jason."
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"text": " What is this?"
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"text": " Wild about you because they're like creatures."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Animals in love."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " A lot of that in Vegas too actually."
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"text": " All right, go on."
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"text": " Three."
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"text": " The pebble."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " The Fuel band and the Fitbit."
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"text": " Wait a second."
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"text": " What about the..."
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"start": 2890.64,
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"text": " What about the..."
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"text": " What about the Rebac?"
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"text": " The Rebac Pump?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " The Pump."
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"text": " What?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Also sunglasses are very successful."
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"text": " The Rebac Pump."
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"text": " I think the job on Up was a fail, they had to recall it because it didn't work and they"
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"text": " The shine, that little circle is like hairs."
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"text": " It's by Google Glass."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Does somebody just moan?"
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"text": " Is that a werewolf?"
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"text": " When you say Google Glass, a werewolf is crying."
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"text": " You know what would be scary?"
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"text": " A werewolf in Google Glass."
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"text": " It would be so ineffective."
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"text": " Is that a book?"
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"text": " No, Werewolf Bar Mitzvah is a song from 30 Rock, which is an amazing song."
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"text": " How weird."
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"text": " Yeah, you know the lyrics, it's boys becoming men, men becoming wolves."
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"text": " Nope."
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"text": " Nope."
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"text": " Those are the lyrics."
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"text": " And I think they're all going to fall far below that level of success."
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"text": " So if you're going to wear something on your body, it's got to be useful all the time."
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"text": " No, because your Google Glass piece was in our office."
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"text": " No."
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"text": " Oh, their newest werewolf?"
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"text": " So do you have any other topics?"
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"text": " Not really."
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"text": " Did anybody learn anything?"
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"text": " We need to go through..."
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"text": " I forgot what was coming."
},
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"text": " Tomorrow is a big day."
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"text": " Tomorrow is a big day."
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"text": " So NVIDIA tonight starts at eight."
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"text": " Last year NVIDIA's press conference was like three hours long."
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"text": " Can we get a still of this?"
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"text": " There's like the CEO was like offering a scantily clad woman a drink at a bar."
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"text": " Telling her about the new GeForce chipset."
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"text": " Did I make that up?"
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"text": " I don't remember."
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"text": " No, I think that happened."
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"text": " The song, Oh Yeah, by Yellow started playing."
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"text": " None of that stuff."
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"text": " I've never understood the glasses thing, by the way."
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"text": " As a man who usually wears glasses."
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"text": " No, it's like you have your glasses on for reading and then you see a sweet car or a"
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"text": " Yeah, is it because I'm nearsighted?"
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"text": " Because someone's like, check out that hot chick."
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"text": " What would she look like blurry?"
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"text": " Okay, fine, I get it."
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"text": " Reverse would go up."
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},
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"text": " That's what it is."
},
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"text": " Yeah."
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{
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"text": " Are we done yet?"
},
{
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"text": " We're done."
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"text": " NVIDIA tonight, tomorrow morning, LG at 8am Pacific, 11am."
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"text": " Wait, wait, NVIDIA what time?"
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"text": " NVIDIA's tonight at 8am."
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"text": " Tonight at 8am."
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"text": " And that will probably go from 8 to 8."
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"text": " That's 11 o'clock East Coast."
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"text": " Correct."
},
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"text": " So if you're on the East Coast, if you're not in Los Angeles..."
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"text": " Do not sleep, ever."
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"text": " 11 o'clock, NVIDIA's going to do something sexy or sexist or amazing."
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"text": " Or all three."
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"text": " We'll see."
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"text": " It'll have chips."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Tomorrow morning, 8am, 11am Eastern is LG."
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"text": " Obviously, it's web watched TV."
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"text": " Life's good."
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"text": " Life's good."
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"text": " And probably some washing machines."
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"text": " You never know, it's LG."
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"text": " They do a lot of things."
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"text": " Or washing machines as they call them in the South."
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"text": " You two are going to be back at this desk after LG is done."
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"text": " What?"
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"text": " You two are going to be here for the Verge Live."
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{
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"text": " Oh yeah, Dieter and I are going to do..."
},
{
"start": 3216.8,
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"text": " Oh, that's right."
},
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"text": " We're going to have post-game analysis."
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"text": " Not NVIDIA tonight because it's so crazy ass late."
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"text": " But tomorrow after the first LG event, which is at 8 in the morning, 11am."
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"text": " And basically starting from 8, we're going to have all these press conferences streaming"
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},
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"text": " Yep."
},
{
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"text": " And live blogs."
},
{
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"text": " We'll have video for basically 11 hours tomorrow between press conferences, Verge Live, hands-ons,"
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{
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"text": " interviews, all that stuff that's going on tomorrow."
},
{
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"text": " So just put this in your pipe and smoke it, Mobile Accomplishers."
},
{
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"text": " Is that what you call them?"
},
{
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"text": " Yes."
},
{
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"text": " Dieter really didn't want to acknowledge that."
},
{
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"text": " Dieter, Bones, and Josh Dupolsky, two webOS aficionados, will be critiquing the webOS"
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"text": " TV following the webOS TV announcement."
},
{
"start": 3259.44,
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"text": " Right."
},
{
"start": 3260.44,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
{
"start": 3261.44,
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"text": " Buckle up, Mobile Accomplishers."
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"text": " And then Samsung is at 2pm, followed by another Verge Live, which I figure who's going to"
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"text": " Could be anybody."
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"text": " I'll probably be around because I'm..."
},
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"text": " Valve and Sony, I'm actually going to be live-blogging Sony because it's a tradition of mine."
},
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"text": " Valve and Sony are doing something together?"
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"text": " No, no, they're at the same time."
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"text": " That would be the same, wouldn't it?"
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"text": " They're having it at the same time."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That would be..."
},
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"text": " Sony's making a steam box."
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"text": " They're like, you know what the PS4 is?"
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"text": " It's a little..."
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"text": " And Sony, there's big stuff going on with Sony because they got Phil Molyneux's ad,"
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"text": " they've got a new president."
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"text": " It's cause he's won Sony."
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"text": " So Sony's at 5, and actually it's..."
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"text": " We're right in front of Central Hall, our kind of setup here has moved this year."
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"text": " So I'm going to live-blog Sony and come straight back here, and we're going to do the Vergecast"
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"text": " instead of a Verge live right after Sony at 6."
},
{
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"text": " By the way, people are really mad that I cut you off from talking about wearables by asking"
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"text": " if you were talking about werewolves."
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{
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"text": " Oh, here's the thing."
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"text": " Most werewolves suck."
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"text": " Werewolves?"
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"text": " Most werewolves suck."
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"text": " Most werewolves suck."
},
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"text": " I think you're thinking of vampires."
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"text": " Werewolves are cool."
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"text": " Who laughed?"
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{
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"text": " Who laughed at that?"
},
{
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"text": " Was that John?"
},
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"text": " It was good."
},
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"text": " Really?"
},
{
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"text": " Okay."
},
{
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"text": " He'd laugh at anything, though, so I'm not going to take too much."
},
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"text": " I'm not going to feel like that was a freebie."
},
{
"start": 3324,
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"text": " Whatever, man."
},
{
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"text": " Team Edward."
},
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"text": " We'll have live-blogs for most of these."
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"text": " Did you just say Team Edward?"
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"text": " I don't know what I just said."
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"text": " Did anybody hear him say Team Edward under his breath?"
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"text": " He did."
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"text": " Edward is one of the worst all-time characters ever in the history of..."
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"text": " I've only ever seen one of those movies."
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"text": " You should see all of your three movies."
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"end": 3342.6,
"text": " Here's what I remember."
},
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"text": " You should see all of them."
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"text": " The only thing I remember about that movie, I'll admit..."
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"text": " You've got to see the last two."
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"end": 3350.28,
"text": " It was very late at night."
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"text": " I had come out from a night being out."
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"text": " Out, out."
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"text": " And I watched the baseball scene, which has some of the worst CGI."
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"text": " Oh, my God."
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"text": " The first movie is like a work of art."
},
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"text": " I'm not sure..."
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"text": " The first movie is like a high art."
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"text": " It's like a weird..."
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"text": " It's like a B movie."
},
{
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " It's like Plan 9 from Outer Space, but it's the most popular young adult novel of all"
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{
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"text": " time."
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"text": " And it's about vampires and werewolves."
},
{
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"text": " It's based on Sparkle."
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{
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"text": " Extremely celibate."
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"text": " Sparkle."
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"text": " Sparkle."
},
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"text": " I just like just rewatch the first movie and tell me if you don't think every time Bella"
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"text": " and Edward speak to one another, it looks like they're both about to throw up."
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"text": " There's so many looks in that movie."
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"text": " Can we get a little bit of..."
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"end": 3399.6,
"text": " How did we even find this?"
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{
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"end": 3400.6,
"text": " They just did."
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"end": 3401.6,
"text": " Just look at..."
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"text": " They're going to talk to each other."
},
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"text": " Just get a look at them."
},
{
"start": 3403.6,
"end": 3404.6,
"text": " Look."
},
{
"start": 3404.6,
"end": 3405.6,
"text": " Look."
},
{
"start": 3405.6,
"end": 3406.6,
"text": " He's sick."
},
{
"start": 3406.6,
"end": 3407.6,
"text": " No, no, no, no, no."
},
{
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"end": 3408.6,
"text": " He's been alive for so long."
},
{
"start": 3408.6,
"end": 3409.6,
"text": " Show any..."
},
{
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"text": " Look."
},
{
"start": 3410.6,
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"text": " She looks totally nauseous in every one of these shots."
},
{
"start": 3414.88,
"end": 3415.88,
"text": " Look."
},
{
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"text": " Okay, they were smiling there, which is weird."
},
{
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"text": " See, you can't really tell them this."
},
{
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},
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},
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"text": " I don't really want to."
},
{
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"text": " The end of the..."
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"text": " What are the last two films called?"
},
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"text": " Breaking Dawn."
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"text": " Breaking Dawn parts one and two."
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"text": " The end of Breaking Dawn part one is so disturbing that you will never forget what happens, and"
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"text": " All right."
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"text": " Look, we're going to have a Twilight marathon after the press conference is tomorrow, after"
},
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"text": " We're just..."
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"text": " Through that tonight, we're just going to run Twilight."
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"text": " Does that make sense?"
},
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Anything else going on tomorrow?"
},
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"text": " Makes perfect sense."
},
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"text": " We're just going to have a lot of stuff."
},
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"text": " I look at our calendar and it's a bit of pain."
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"text": " I want to tell you guys that our stream is just running tomorrow, so you can hit..."
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"text": " You can literally hit play in our video player at 8 a.m. tomorrow morning and just let it"
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"text": " I'm just laughing at..."
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"text": " Laura June is quoting you."
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"text": " What did I do?"
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"text": " I think there are going to be tons of crappy werewolves."
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"text": " Now that we know that the word wearables and werewolves are so closely connected, we"
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"text": " Delicious, succulent, moist nectar of CES."
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"text": " Isn't it moist by..."
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"text": " The moisture does seem to be implied when you say nectar, but this is a particularly"
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"text": " moist nectar, is what I'm saying, and succulent."
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"text": " This is not a Wikipedia entry I ever thought I'd read."
},
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"text": " What are you reading?"
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"text": " In botany, succulent plants, also known as the succulents or sometimes the fat plants,"
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"text": " It's hard for the fat plants."
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"text": " Yeah, turning tomorrow, we're going to have a lot more werewolves."
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"text": " We're going to have coverage of 4K."
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"text": " Yeah, 4K werewolves."
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"text": " What else?"
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"text": " That's my new band name."
},
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"text": " What else is there?"
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"text": " Is that it?"
},
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"text": " Tomorrow is the news day."
},
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"start": 3565.68,
"end": 3566.68,
"text": " Yeah, there's a lot of..."
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"text": " Tomorrow and Tuesday are the biggest stages of news at CES."
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"text": " Tomorrow morning, the Verge is going to get real gadgety, real CES-y."
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"text": " We should talk about that a little bit."
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"text": " So we're going to get real gadgety, but we have a big CES hub, and then we have a CES"
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"text": " wire."
},
{
"start": 3582.04,
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"text": " Yeah, that's right, because we're not going to put everything on the front page."
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"text": " If you're looking for everything, I strongly suggest you go to the CES hub."
},
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"start": 3586.6,
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"text": " We also have a news wire, which is basically like the dream of the Verge 1 Percenters,"
},
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"text": " which is a blog, basically a blog of every single thing that we hit at CES."
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"text": " I think if you saw our coverage last year, you know we're going to do it a little bit"
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"text": " We are not going to hit every story."
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"text": " We're not going to cover every router."
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"text": " You will not see..."
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"end": 3609.36,
"text": " We're not going to cover every router."
},
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"end": 3610.36,
"text": " What?"
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"text": " We're not going to be..."
},
{
"start": 3611.36,
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"text": " All my plans are ruined."
},
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"text": " Here's what we're doing."
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"text": " We're trying to find the most interesting, coolest stuff and put it on our pages for"
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"text": " We have some really, really cool stories tomorrow."
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"text": " Already we've got a handful of things that I think are pretty fascinating."
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"text": " I've already done at least one thing that I think perfectly sums up why I want to be"
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"text": " at CES every year, and it's not just the werewolves."
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"text": " That's why I'm here."
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"text": " God, I wish there was a technology that sounded like vampires."
},
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"text": " That's everyone's homework for the night."
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"text": " Think of a technology that sounds like vampires."
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"text": " Think of what is a technology that when you say it out loud could be mistaken for you"
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"text": " saying vampires."
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"text": " And then we will make a Twilight remix."
},
{
"start": 3651.68,
"end": 3654.08,
"text": " Zombie also could be good if you can think of something that sounds like zombies."
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{
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"text": " We'll be eating bacon."
},
{
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"text": " Well, Neal, I will."
},
{
"start": 3656.08,
"end": 3657.08,
"text": " Oh, boy."
},
{
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"end": 3659.36,
"text": " Oh, also, that's the other thing."
},
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"start": 3659.36,
"end": 3660.36,
"text": " We're doing..."
},
{
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"text": " Every day we're doing this thing called No Filter, which is a stream of our tweets and"
},
{
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"text": " our Instagrams and just random shit that we're doing here at CES that you guys..."
},
{
"start": 3668.12,
"end": 3669.12,
"text": " It's live updating."
},
{
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"end": 3670.64,
"text": " It's like a live blog, essentially."
},
{
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"end": 3674.04,
"text": " It's just us being the verge at CES."
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{
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"end": 3675.04,
"text": " It's weird."
},
{
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"end": 3676.04,
"text": " It's backstage."
},
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"end": 3677.04,
"text": " It's behind the scenes."
},
{
"start": 3677.04,
"end": 3678.04,
"text": " Here's a..."
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"text": " Everybody working hard with this."
},
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"text": " CES unveiled right now, too."
},
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"end": 3681.04,
"text": " Scroll down a little so they can see what's going on."
},
{
"start": 3681.04,
"end": 3682.04,
"text": " Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on."
},
{
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"end": 3683.04,
"text": " We're doing weird pictures from the trailer and stuff that we go do."
},
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"text": " And, oh, my God, another plane."
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"text": " Yeah, I think that's a sign."
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"text": " That's definitely a sign."
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"text": " That's a plane full of werewolves."
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"text": " What was that?"
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"text": " Oh, my God, is it a backhoe?"
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{
"start": 3689.04,
"end": 3690.04,
"text": " Oh, my God, is it a backhoe?"
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{
"start": 3690.04,
"end": 3691.04,
"text": " Oh, my God, is it a backhoe?"
},
{
"start": 3691.04,
"end": 3692.04,
"text": " Oh, my God, is it a backhoe?"
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{
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"text": " No, like the tent, like, shook."
},
{
"start": 3699.04,
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"text": " It was a backhoe hitting us."
},
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"text": " It's gonna be fine."
},
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"text": " It might be."
},
{
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"text": " All right, that's the Vergecast for Sunday night at CES."
},
{
"start": 3703.04,
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"text": " We'll be back tomorrow."
},
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"start": 3704.04,
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"text": " Right after Sony."
},
{
"start": 3705.04,
"end": 3706.04,
"text": " No, after LG."
},
{
"start": 3706.04,
"end": 3716.84,
"text": " Oh, the Vergecast will be back tomorrow after Sony in the evening, but we'll be back broadcasting,"
},
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"start": 3716.84,
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"text": " doing live coverage."
},
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"text": " We will have live analysis afterwards."
},
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"text": " We're gonna have tons of product videos and hands-ons and all sorts of crazy stuff, reports."
},
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"start": 3730.24,
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"text": " Tomorrow is where it gets really crazy, so stay tuned to The Verge."
},
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"text": " And we'll be back tomorrow night."
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Tell me what's going on there. You don't like it. I understand that I liked it. The first time I ever saw it two years ago, I said, this is going to be controversial and it's been two years, three years. What's the feedback? So totally open, we have about 10-15% of the people don't like the keyboard and the rest like it. So we've stuck with the keyboard. We've updated the trackpad. So we're continuously refining but we've had more people say don't change the keyboard. So we've left the keyboard the way it is and most people enjoy it. So when you launched the PCs, it was going to be the next big wave for Vizia. It was a big launch. You were everywhere and I've kind of pulled it back a little bit. Is there a reason, is it just the TV stuff is more important and there's a bigger market there? The PC market is kind of falling apart. Yeah, that helps. PC market is, I would say, at best stagnant. I think our area where we're going for is a healthy market, meaning that kind of high-end people, it's not the largest part of the market. I think a lot of the market has gone to like $500 and less and we don't have a lot of interest in playing in that. You're not going to make a Chromebook. No, we have no plans to make a Chromebook. So we're still on the premium side and we still view it as a product that complements the rest of our products. So again, it's another screen that you can watch content on. So if you're a Netflix subscriber and you're way into Netflix, you can start a stream on your laptop, close the screen, play it back on your TV and in fact, you could actually play it on our smart audio product because we have a full Android on there. So you can jump between screens and we thought that was very, very important. So that's still important to us. So why do you actually, it's weird, you have all these platforms and you were telling me that the apps are what connects platforms, but you have Android on the smart audio products, you've got proprietary, I'm assuming, Linux, National 5 on the TVs and then you've got Windows on your computers. Why not just pick one? Why not have Android run on the TV? So here's my current view, is that there isn't one platform that's perfect for all, meaning there is not an operating system that is the best PC operating system in the world and also the best mobile operating system for a smaller device. And there's definitely not an OS on a PC or a mobile device that's the best operating system for a TV. So still today on the underlying platforms, we're still in a mode of best of breed, meaning we're picking the best platform for that specific device. With the idea though that the platform doesn't really matter. What matters is, like I said before, that somebody can jump between Netflix versions and all of them and have a totally seamless experience or Spotify or Pandora or whatever. That's where people are making their connections, especially on TV when they're looking for content. And so as long as we can make that a completely consistent interface, the underlying platform to us at least becomes less important and we would still tip towards using the best platform or operating system on that given device and then concentrating on the user experience above. I don't know, in the future a single OS may become the best mobile, the best TV and the best computing and have one, but I don't think we're there yet. It seems like HTML5 is where it's going to land. What I would say is HTML5 is kind of that layer in between in that you can write an HTML5 app that runs on Android and it also runs on a web browser, Chrome or an HTML5 kit. 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Like it's like, you know, Netflix looks like this, Hulu looks like this, Amazon looks like that. Yeah. So what I think what's happening is on the best internet platforms for TVs, there's a unification happening at the app level. So for instance, we, you know, there's two versions of Netflix out there. There's the kind of very minimalist that ended up on Blu-ray players and some of the less capable smart TVs. And then there's the full fledged version that we have. And it's very much the same as Android or iOS and some of the others. So there's a little bit of a bifurcation, but I would say there's, there's becoming a pretty seamless user experience at the app level. I think HTML5 is helping with that, right? So a developer can develop once and with little modification moved between them. I think LG's choice of web OS is interesting. I mean, I think, you know, it may be unnecessary. I think, you know, where all the developments being done is above the OS level. You know, they bought it, so they decided to use it. That's good. Yeah. Well, they had to catch up. But for us, it's unnecessary. I think for us, it's less about, especially on a TV, it's less about the OS, it's more about the user interface. I do think that a fully unified user experience across these platforms is important. And it's something we're working on in the labs, obviously. We had to finish the reference series first and get the picture quality and audio quality where we think it, where next gen. The entire lab that we work on and our R&D center will be moving towards smart TV platforms of the future. And already have been. But I think the next step is that unification. And I can't tell you exactly what that is. But what's interesting, I think web OS is going to be tough because web OS is not on any of the other platforms. So it's interesting as they pick something that has already been taken off mobile phones and taken off everything else. So that's going to be more difficult when there's operating systems that are out there that are already kind of pushing across devices. Some of them are actually operating systems, but some of them may just be a development platform like HTML5 that ends up everywhere. So I think that's the next step is where the interface on your TV is completely the same as the interface on your tablet. And when I say the same, obviously it's scaled and it's optimized and there's some elements that are tweaked, but there's no reason to learn a completely new interface every single device you pick up. I think we're kind of past that and it just requires some extra work to get that done. And the smart audio device is our first step at actually doing that, right? Where you can pick up an Android phone or an Android tablet and then launch one of our smart devices and you're not going to see a difference. That is completely unskinned Android KitKat on a quad core processor. 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OtE8_BgZlac | Greetings, mobile accomplishers. Welcome to the Verge Mobile Show. It's the last show of 2013. It is December 31st. I have a drink and I'm Dieter Bohm. I'm Dan Seifert and I have hot cocoa. I'm Chris Ziegler and I have a delicious cup of Intelligentsia coffee. The other thing that you have, Chris, what I heard earlier is drugs in your system. Yeah, so long story short, I have an ad... Wait, wait, wait. How is this a long story? What part are you cutting out? Okay, good point. It's just a short story. Where he acquired the drugs? Well, there's nothing illicit here. So I'm overcoming a variety of ailments right now, which is perfect timing with CES a couple days away. So I have a bunch of jars of pills, bottles of pills, whatever you call them, on my countertop. My sleeping pills look exactly like the Advil gel caps. So I switched them and took two sleeping pills instead of two Advil pills. And you're only supposed to take one sleeping pill. Now, miraculously, I'm not dead. But I have been drinking coffee all afternoon and I feel a little spacey. But I've also been feeling spacey just because I've been taking a lot of Sudafed this week. So yeah, it's a mess. So I apologize if I'm not making any sense on this show or if I just spontaneously fall asleep. Either situation is entirely possible. But hopefully it goes without incident. So you just have random jars of pills on your kitchen counter unlabeled? I love how Chris is trying to use the I'm sick excuse to have random jars of pills just lying around. Well, it's true. I have probably 10 supplements that I'm taking right now between garlic and zinc and sea and all this nonsense. Are you trying to ward off vampires? Well, no. I'm using every supplement that has been so much as rumored to possibly shorten colds by even a single minute. I'm taking them all simultaneously. Plus I'm taking sleeping pills at night so that I can sleep through the pathogen. And I'm taking a number of different cold medications including Mucinex. So the bottom line is that yeah, my countertop looks like I should be immediately arrested. So I mean, here's the thing. You're patient zero for the CES flu, the CES SARS or whatever. What do we call it? CES SARS? Maybe. David has the same thing I think. So either one of us could get everyone sick. The other thing that this makes me think of is that instead of actually writing about consumer electronics at the Consumer Electronics Show, I'm going to write CES Vampire Fanfic where vampires stalk the night at the Las Vegas Convention Center. I'd read it. Drinking the blood of weary tech journalists. I'd read it. By the way, whose cockamamie idea was it to have a Verge Mobile show today on New Year's Eve? Believe it or not. Yours. I said no. I was very skeptical. Oops. That came back to me a little quicker than I thought it would. Good job, Chris. Dan. Evan, please escort Dan off the premise. Oh, you can't. You're not in the – neither one of you are in the office. So Evan is here producing the show. Because of technical difficulties, he's not actually on the show nor is he hiding his face. So you just can see his beautiful thumbnail down there. It's really nice looking. Sweet tar. Yeah. Okay, so like CES is coming. It starts in like mere days. Mere, mere days. And I mean the common trend of there not being massive crazy phone news is continuing. I'm not expecting anything to change the game. There hasn't been a major huge phone announcement CES what, since the pre? We're talking like five, six years? No, there was – what was it, two, three years ago when the LG revolution – I repeat my earlier claim. No, no, no, no. But those were important because they were the first phones with LTE to be introduced by an American carrier I think. No. No, didn't – ATC Thunderbolt was the first. Thunderbolt event. Was that at CES? Yes. I remember that. Yeah, it was. That was an insane event. Like the whole room had like – they had like a surround screen and like lightning just kept on shooting across the entire auditorium over and over and over again. Hang on. I'm pretty sure the Thunderbolt was at CES. Well, I do know that Motorola showed the original Droid Bionic at CES which ended up looking way different to the Droid Bionic that actually launched nine months later. Yeah, it was at CES. It was January 6, 2011? No. That's 2010. It was January. The Atrix was at CES. The original Atrix. I still think that Deater's original point stands. No, so the original Atrix was interesting. Deater's completely wrong because the original Atrix was interesting because it was the first device with web top or whatever the hack Motorola called it. I believe it was the first smartphone announced with 1 gig of RAM. It was the first dual core and it had the fingerprint reader. Right. Yeah. I mean I wanted the Atrix so bad when they announced it. I was like – it sounded like when they announced that phone it sounded like science fiction and it turned out it kind of was because it didn't launch for a long time. And it didn't live up to the promises at all. Yeah, but it was decent. It was a decent phone. Yeah, but the really exotic stuff about it, like the fingerprint scanner sucked and the web top thing was a total flop. So all the stuff that made it really interesting aside from the nerdy level of it's the first dual core phone was a bust and it was just like an okay phone on its own merit. Right. So every year Sony has a big press conference and they usually save at least one phone for that. We're expecting a bunch of wearable stuff that's going to be everywhere. So Sony last year used CES to launch the Xperia Z which is its flagship model for the time. But I don't think that we're going to see a new flagship from them this year. Yeah, the timing isn't great. Like the Z1 just recently launched, we haven't seen it in the US yet. But it hasn't been on the market long enough for them to actually replace it with another flagship model. So I'm sure Sony will do something but I don't expect it to be a new flagship device. You know what they could do, is the Z1 on T-Mobile? It isn't, right? No, it's not available on any US carrier yet. So here's my prediction, I think that they will announce it, this might happen at the T-Mobile press conference, but somewhere T-Mobile will announce that they're carrying the Z1 and I bet that AT&T announces a weird, nerfed version of the Z1 for itself. It's happened before. AT&T takes the camera out. And makes it like an inch thicker for no apparent reason. Yeah. Oh, AT&T. The highlight of AT&T's big, AT&T has like a separate, I think it's technically a developer conference attached to CES, so it's at the Palms which is way far off from where everything else happens. And the only thing I remember is the highlight of their keynote was them repeatedly dropping gadgets into a giant bowl of water. Like here's a Kyocera, whatever it's called. Pulling it out of the water, putting it back in the water. I still don't understand, is it Vlad who always talks about wanting to be able to use a phone in the shower? No, David is a big fan of using things in the shower. I don't get it, it doesn't make any sense to me, what are you doing on your phone in the shower? Apparently David reads books. In the shower. Like you see he gets so bored cleansing his body that he's like, you know what, I just need to take a little break here and read a few pages of a book. It's really confusing to me. You know, maybe it's just efficient multitasking and it's good use of his time. I guess, I guess. It's a little weird to me. Yeah, I mean, look, I read the story this week that the majority of porn is now viewed on mobile devices. And we're going to have 4K displays on phones here in what, 2015? What is that, like 1000 PPI? Awesome. Yeah, doesn't make any sense. So we're also, okay, Sony will have something, maybe they'll get, T-Mobile's got a press conference, AT&T does its thing and usually announces crappy devices. Verizon usually announces some metric about how their LTE is better than everybody else's. There's going to be a million wearables, like just a million smartwatches, a million crappy smartwatches and the flagship crappy smartwatch, I'm predicting right now is the one that Arcos just teased. It looks like a combination of a Pebble and my Phosphor E Ink watch, and so I'm going to buy it and that's a huge giant shame. I love Arcos, man. They just, they always are like, they seem super cutting edge and then they never... I don't think they seem super cutting edge. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. No, they always feel like they're up to date on the spec race and they get, they're like MP3 players before the iPod, where like, did Arcos make something? Did they make an MP3 player? Yeah, I think that's how they got started, right? Actually, Arcos made these almost like five and six inch tablet-like devices that you're supposed to put your SD card in and view your photos and things like that. Way before the iPad, way before smartphones even really took off on the mainstream. But they always had like some crippling resistive touch screen or just like horrible software interfaces that made them like really cool looking when they're turned off, but as soon as you like touch it and you try to use it, all things fall apart. Yeah. What else are we expecting from CES? So, we kind of glanced right over the T-Mobile thing. So, T-Mobile is having this press conference, it's the Wednesday CES, which is actually kind of like in the downward tail end of CES for most things. But, you know, John Ledger's been teasing it up quite a bit on Twitter as the next big uncarrier move, and apparently they're going to be announcing it at CES. So, this is uncarrier four, I think, if you've been keeping count. And I really don't know what else they're going to announce. Short of some people have been batting around that maybe T-Mobile is going to suddenly start paying ETFs. If you cancel your AT&T or Verizon and you come over to T-Mobile, T-Mobile maybe will pay your ETF fee, which is really the big barrier for a lot of people switching between carriers. I switched to T-Mobile for a week and I had to drop it because it didn't have a signal where I needed it. Yeah, I don't think that ETFs are actually that big of a – I don't think that there's an enormous contingent of people who are saying – I mean, sure, there are some people that are saying that, but it's not like there are 10 million people in the US saying, I would switch to T-Mobile and Heartbeat if it weren't for my damn ETF. There are a bunch of people, there's a large number of people that would do that. And how many phones on AT&T can work with T-Mobile's LTE? The number is much higher now than it used to be. And so if they will pay your ETF, your ETF is now paid, which means that under the new rules that have gone through, AT&T needs to unlock your phone for you probably. I mean, I know there's a little bit of confusion about interpreting those rules, but I think that might be the case, which means that if you're an AT&T customer, you can switch to T-Mobile for a net cost of zero because they will pay your ETF and get your phone unlocked and you just switch over. And the point is, it will let you try T-Mobile. Like ETFs may be – Chris may be right that they're not stopping people from switching, but they are stopping people from even trying the service. If you've been with Verizon or AT&T for seven or eight or five or six years or whatever, you're bidding contracts the entire time, you've never had a chance to try T-Mobile or other carriers and see what their service is like until you wait for your contract. So if they do this thing and they aren't very careful about how they set up paying my ETF and I could like get T-Mobile to pay my ETF, be on T-Mobile for a week and then switch back, yeah, I'd do that. And there's no way that's going to happen. Like they'll probably do something where like if you're not with them for a certain number of months, then you need to pay it back. It's got to be that. Otherwise, they'd go bankrupt. So I honestly I think – It would be so fast that the soft bank would have to buy it. Ah. I think that at least for the mobile world, if you're not looking at wearables, I think T-Mobile's press conference will probably be the most interesting thing at CES. Well, there was a rumor – I can't remember where this came from, but there was a rumor that we could see a Galaxy Gear 2 at CES. That's nuts. Yeah. That's no way that would happen. That's a nutty rumor. I agree that seems implausible, but – I would buy a Galaxy Gear Lite that didn't have a camera and was thinner and lighter. There would need to be a lot of other things fixed with the Galaxy Gear before I even consider that. Yeah, and also Samsung would be more likely to make a Galaxy Gear Note, which is twice the size of the head stylus. And you know I'm right. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see. But Samsung is doing something at CES. Samsung, well, they've got a million toaster ovens and microwaves and crap that they need to announce. No, who does a blast chiller? That's LG, right? That's LG, yeah, which is still like an awesome product that everyone should have. Look, I went to Samsung's press conference last year at CES expecting craziness, and it was the most boring thing I've ever live blogged in my entire life. What did they focus on? Nothing. It was just like, here's a refrigerator. Here's another TV. This TV has a slight curve to it, which you saw yesterday, so whatever. Here's a thing we showed off a couple months ago. Here's a phone with a curved screen. Oh, wait, we showed that before, too. Here's another refrigerator. I literally was typing as fast as I could for an hour straight and not one interesting thing. Just like product gadget, product, product, product, product, product, product. Well, LG has a new line of appliances that will SMS you, so that's exciting. That's not a new concept, though. Like washing machines that text you are not new. LG's going to have web OS on a TV. I guess we should talk about that briefly. Oh, yeah, yeah. But no, just to wrap up the Samsung thing, I know that Samsung Mobile specifically is doing something there. It's been speculated for a long time that they are kind of nearing the point where they need to refresh some of their tablets. My guess is that we'll see some of that at MWC and some of it at CES, and maybe there will be one or two tablet announcements that are tied in with a carrier, because American carriers love them some tablets. Even though they don't sell any. I know, I don't get it. There was a Verizon commercial, I'm sure you guys saw it, it was a Verizon Christmas commercial where this woman is using a Verizon tablet, and like the entire back of it is a giant Verizon 4G logo. It was red, right? Yes. Like I saw all of these Verizon commercials, and they would be like, red tablet, red Galaxy Gear, red smartphone, and like… Yeah, it was the worst. Don't buy that tablet, whatever it was. I think it may have been a Nokia, what you would call it. The 2520, which does come in very, very bright red. Yeah. So anyway, I'm sorry, what were we supposed to talk about before I interrupted? We were going to briefly chortle about the fact that WebOS is coming back. Well, here, I just want to say this, that I was at a friend's house this weekend, and he has an LG smart TV, and it has this crazy remote that's like a little wand, it's like an air mouse, and you wave it around in front of the TV, and it's got a mouse pointer and stuff, which is kind of cool and a smart idea, and an easy way to input things like your Netflix password and stuff, but the rest of the software was absolutely abysmal, so maybe WebOS for LG will be a good thing. But it's like, that's predicated on the belief that WebOS was ever an appropriate operating system for a television. Listen, man, all I want to do is be watching Megyn Kelly on Fox News and then swipe her off my screen. Just like they're swiping their giant touch screens? Yeah, exactly, and she could be sitting at the desk, and the channel frame doesn't even disappear, I just grab her and swipe her off. So rumors there's going to be a card interface still. If you can have three or four recent channels and be able to like, swipe up to a card interface and see what the channels are and then pick the one you want, maybe that'd be cool. And you know what's going to happen? The app situation is going to be terrible. It's going to be terrible. Well, I mean, the app situation on any smart TV is pretty terrible right now. Yeah, it can't be any worse. That's a good point. But here's what's going to happen. LG is going to announce a line of webOS TVs, and then in a few months, because they like to do giant and miniature versions of things, they're going to do a TV mini that's actually a tablet, and then there's going to be a new webOS tablet. Now, Chris, do you remember at MWC last year, I remember you and I were walking around, and we stopped by LG's booth and they had this like 21-inch widescreen monitor. It was like three monitors stuck together. Did you buy that with webOS on it? No. I mean, I buy that as a monitor. In fact, I've wanted to buy that as a monitor, and I've looked at it on several occasions. The problem with it apparently is that it doesn't work very well with OS X, I guess. Yeah, that's a sure sure. Yeah, so I haven't bought it. But it is like a really bad-ass looking monitor, and I would totally use the heck out of it, just not with webOS on it. No. Anyway, if you're not familiar, CES, technically I believe the show floor opens on Tuesday, which means that the news actually starts on like Sunday. Or Saturday or something like that. Yeah, so there's a million press conferences on Monday, so whatever your plans are for Monday, cancel them, because you're going to want to just hang out on the verge and refresh and see a bunch of live blogs and a bunch of video content, both hands-ons, analysis from the studio that we have, both like right there in our trailer right in front of the convention hall. It's going to be a ton of stuff. What phones are you guys bringing to CES? So I have been waffling. I'm waffling super hard. I'm going to bring an iPhone just in case, but switching to it is a huge pain because I have to call AT&T and talk to their customer service reps for a half an hour just to make tethering work, because AT&T is horrible and doesn't believe in free and open data and their own SIM card system. You actually need to call them. They suck. So I've never had that issue. Well, it's for tethering. Data works, tethering doesn't. But like on my account, I've got my iPhone 5S, and regardless of where I put my SIM, it stays my iPhone 5S, and everything works PG. It works on Android and Windows Phone and everything like that. And then when I go to use my iPhone, everything works. That's not my experience, friendo. Yeah, I'm sorry. So I actually tweeted this, that I was waffling between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, and I was leaning towards the Moto X because the Moto X gets slightly better battery life for me. So I put my SIM card back in my Moto X, and I've been using it for a couple of days. And I know that we all love the Moto X to death, but after using the Nexus 5, things feel slow. Things feel slow and a little small to me. Really? So I'm going to probably use the Nexus 5, and I just bought an Anker 10,000 milliamp battery. It's like this big. And I'm just going to keep that in my back pocket, and I'll use that to charge my phone all day long. I'm just taking an iPhone. Nothing fancy. I put my SIM back in my iPhone this weekend after like months, and I'm kind of happy with it. So I think I'm going to bring my iPhone. What do you guys use for Gmail? Do you use Mailbox? I just use the Gmail app. I use the Gmail app. It's been really buggy. The Gmail app is terrible. No, it's normally okay. No, it gets the... Dude, use an Android phone for a day. No, no, no, no argument. No argument that the Android Gmail app slaps the iOS Gmail app up and down. But it still gets the job done on iOS. The problem is that lately it's been super buggy for me, so I might have to go back to Mailbox. If you want to talk about a steaming pile of hot garbage, try out the Gmail app on the iPad. It has gotten so bad. I cannot handle it. So are you using an iPad Air or a Mini or what? I'm using an OG iPad Mini right now. Well, there's your problem, obviously. Yeah, because I was thinking I might actually buy a Mini Retina just for this show, so I have a giant hotspot. Well, so that's what I was debating buying, a Mini Retina with Verizon. I've got an OG Mini with Verizon now. But my thinking was maybe I would flip the script and be an iPhone guy with an Android tablet, which I know is insane and stupid, but I was thinking it because the Nexus 7 is so much cheaper than the iPad Mini. But Verizon and Google can't get their shit together and release that version of the tablet, so I haven't done it. What is your obsession with tablets and Verizon? Like you're an AT&T customer. Yeah, my obsession is that I'm an AT&T customer for my phone, and I want to have Verizon for my tablet so that I have a better chance, I might guarantee, but I have a better chance of actually getting a signal when I need it when I'm in dire straits. I'm doing my job, man. I've got to have as many different ways to get online as possible. Put all your eggs in one basket. That's the rule I live by. One platform, one carrier. If I were to – I wouldn't get an AT&T tablet to go with an AT&T phone. I'd just get a Wi-Fi tablet because what's the point? Tethering your phone to your tablet is a major pain in the butt. I'm never buying a Wi-Fi tablet again. Not that bad. Yeah, I agree. I used to be very strongly in the Wi-Fi tablet camp, and then David wrote his beautiful piece on the original Nexus 7, and then I was a convert after that. No, I love having LTE on my tablet. If I'm going to pay for LTE on my tablet, I'd rather pay the extra $5 a month more, $10 a month more to have it be on an alternate network, so I've got options. How does that actually – because I can add a tablet to my AT&T account for $10 a month, and there's no way that you have a standalone – Yeah, so it's $30 a month. That's a lot of money. You're paying $10, so I'm paying an extra $20 to have – it's worth $20 a month to me. I mean, that's at least – To provide news and information to our viewers. Why don't you care about the people that go to the verge? I care about no one. Oh, Chris, you're awake. You were looking down there. I thought maybe we lost you. Well, my very unusual monitor setup here makes it look like I'm nodding off at all times basically. I apologize. So I'm currently in my brand new apartment in Brooklyn in our office, which is yet to be set up, which is why everything looks weird and strange. I only, minutes before the podcast started, got my keyboard and trackpad working. There's also Echo here, I guess. So anyway, I'm also not in a setup that I'm comfortable with, so that's why this show is going so great. Anything else you guys want to talk about with CES? I mean, you're both bringing iPhones. Well, I'm bringing an iPhone, and I'm also bringing my Moto X, and I'm also bringing my HTC One, because invariably a battery will die, and I'm just going to jump my SIM over to my phone. Well, no, I'm bringing the Moto X and the iPhone and the Nexus 5, and so when the Nexus 5 dies and I don't feel like charging it, I'll swap it over to something else. I've got one of these battery packs. I've got one of the knockoff ones that's... Oh, that looks horrible. A no-name brand that I paid like 30 bucks for for the iPhone, and then I've got like these crazy... I once took a picture of all the batteries that I have, and it's like 10 inches high stacked of external batteries, and I carry all of them. You know what I'm not bringing is my old mini HyperMac laptop charger. Haswell for the win. And it feels really nerve-wracking to not have a giant freaking battery in my bag to back up my laptop. I don't know. Yeah, but you'll have plenty of heads up when you're getting low. One thing that's been worrying me about my iPhone, and I didn't even think about this for CES, this is going to be a problem, is that it's now completely unpredictable when the phone will turn off between 0% and 10%. It's the worst. I had it happen once, and I thought it was because I was outside, and it was really cold, and batteries naturally have less capacity when they're super cold, so I didn't really think about it, but then I was sitting on my couch last night, and I had like 8% left, and it just turned off. So that's not good. You want to know what I'm doing right now? What? I am buying a charger for a Sony NEX 6 camera. You know why? Because despite the fact that this thing claims that it charges over micro USB, literally not a single adapter I have plugged into it has worked. Only the one that comes with it works, and I've lost it in the move, so I can't charge my camera. I've sung Sony's praises for its cameras so many times, but it continually irks me and drives me mad that they don't pack an external charger in their camera boxes. It's not just the lack of the external charger. Being able to charge over Bluetooth is actually really amazing. Not Bluetooth. I'm shopping while I'm talking here. Micro USB is amazing. That's a great idea. But the problem is that they've got like, they have this wattage requirement where if it's the standard, what is it, 1.1 on old style USB and then 2.1 for, is it 1.5? Whatever, it's 1.something and 2.1. And the NEX 6 is like 2.0. And so iPad charging levels, iPad charging levels won't charge it. Anything less than that, maybe will triple charge it if you're lucky. They may as well have made a proprietary plug, because at least that way I wouldn't believe that it would charge over micro USB. And the problem is if you're charging over micro USB, you can't really use the camera and charge at the same time. Right. This is me ordering batteries and an external charger and having it shipped to the hotel in Las Vegas right now. I actually left my charger in CES last year. You know what charges over any cable in any situation whatsoever? An iPhone 5S? Oh, that's like... No, the RX100 Mark II. Really? You can look at that camera and it will start charging. I've never been in a micro USB situation where it didn't charge. I love that camera. It's the only camera I'm taking to CES, by the way. This is a huge fail. Okay, well we talked CES to death. Get ready. But we should talk about Blackberry. In the two weeks since we podcasted, they have announced their quarterly results, which were of course a huge fail. They only sold 1.1 million BB10 devices. They sold way more Blackberry 7 devices, which is of course an embarrassment. They called off their Blackberry Live conferences. Mike Lazaridis sold a bunch of stocks so that he's not going to pursue a buyout of the company anymore. They decided they're going to stop manufacturing stuff. Blackberry actually manufactured a huge portion of their own phones, and now they're like, nope, sorry, they're getting rid of those factories, they're going to have Foxconn make everything for them. Which is a huge shift. We can talk about that when you're done wrapping up. Well, it's actually an important shift for them, because to be honest, one of the things that they like to brag about is they own the whole chain end to end, and that mattered for security at DOD levels. And they specifically always like to brag about how nothing was made in China, and that they manufactured things in Mexico and other places, as a security selling point. And since we all know that Foxconn is based out of China now, that doesn't look like it's going to be upheld. Whoa, bless you. See, you're catching my cold over the intertune. It's happening. I'm infecting you. By looking at you. Look deep into my eyes, Dieter. And then the last thing is the new CEO, John Chen, decided he was going to, for like the fifth time in the past month, tell everybody, hey guys, BlackBerry's cool, we've got a plan. And this time he enumerated the plan. CNBC published this letter that he wrote, this commentary that he wrote, and his plan for BlackBerry, he's like here's what we're going to do, we're going to turn around, we're going to focus on the fundamentals. Their fundamentals are, sorry, their core business drivers are Enterprise, BBM, QNX, and the hardware business. That's four. And looking at them, like Enterprise, yeah, like you still got a big install base there, but you are like one upgrade cycle away and it's fading fast. And your defense department contracts, I know that you've got like more security clearance than most people, but it's not going to last very long, bro, sorry. Next, what do we have next? BBM. You think you're going to make money on messaging? Next. QNX. Yeah, okay, we'll leave QNX, you'll make a little bit of money there, you'll embed it in some cars, you'll make RTOS's, you'll get some stuff there, but it's not going to be like a real business. But we're going to hang on to QNX, just because, yeah, that's a viable business. Hardware business, selling BlackBerry to consumers, this is your future BlackBerry. That was well planned, Dieter. For those of you not watching the video portion of the podcast, I just flipped John Chen, CEO of BlackBerry, the bird. Does anybody disagree with my analysis of John Chen's plan to stay at BlackBerry? You shouldn't have picked four core things, you should have picked one or two, and that should be it. No, but look, this is cowardice. This is him refusing to burn the things that need to be burned in order for the company to survive in a real way. Here's why I don't agree. I think that Chen was dealt the same impossible hand that Torsten was dealt, and you can look at any single one of those businesses, and if he had said, we're just going to focus on this, we would have been laughing at him. There's no right answer for this guy. BlackBerry has been at the poker table for ten years, and for the past three years, everybody that's been sitting there, and the guy's like, tap out, play my next hand for me, and the new guy sits down and plays the next hand. Torsten Hein comes in, looks at the hand, and it's a two and a four, and then he gets a two and a four again, two and a four again, and he keeps betting and whatever, he doubles down, even though it's a different betting game, the wrong metaphor, but stay with me. John Chen is getting that same two and four, and at some point, what's going on? I'm playing the gambler, Kenny Rogers. Oh, yeah. You know what all of that is? And this is when we get pulled from YouTube. It's not you should know when to hold them and know when to fold them. It's you should know when to hold them and know when to flip the table and blow everything up because you are losing, and you need to cut things off, and that is what he's refusing to do here. Like you should not be doing – like BBM, sell it. It's not a money maker. Let it go. Sell it to who? Whoever wants it. I'm sure what's up is happy to buy it for $50. Yeah. Like don't say that these four things are the core of your business. Just say we're going to do enterprise, and there's a bunch of other stuff. We'll see what happens with it, and that's it. You know, Nokia went from making tires and booths to making cars. Why can't Blackberry go from making phones to making fine china? You know, maybe they just need to look for a different business. Just throwing that out there. Maybe they need to be a maple syrup distributor. They should have kept their name RIM then if they were making glasses in China. Yeah, research and mustard. It's true. They could have made cars. Yeah, or you know, Fruit Preserves. The name is appropriate. Fruit Preserves. Wow. I guess you could say they're in a real Blackberry jam. No. I thought you were going to say pickle, and I was going to be like, that makes no sense. That actually would have been way better. Man, we've been really bad. Two weeks ago, I had a lot of great cheap puns. I'm going to keep that streak going. What are we talking about? I don't care anymore. I was just noticing like we should have, when we were talking about WebOS, we should have brought up the fact that HP is going to make phones again. They're just going to make like basically glorified tablets, call them phones, and launch a vagina. That's the rumor. This is hilarious to me on multiple levels. First of all, they have been making this like ridiculous low-end Android tablet that nobody cares about for like a year. It's so bad. It's so bad, and like I don't know who's buying it. Secondly, this is the exact same strategy that Dell took with its mobile program after it couldn't make a dent with the Venu Pro in the US. They sold low-end Android crap in China, and that went nowhere, and then they shut the business down. So I don't know why HP thinks it can succeed where Dell couldn't. HP should just take Microsoft money and make Windows phones. Yes. I'm not kidding. Like they did that back in the day. Before they bought WebOS, that was their mobile strategy. Make corporate phones that nobody cared about but some businesses would buy, make a bunch of money off of those enterprise customers and Microsoft paying them to make those Windows mobile phones, and it was a win-win. And you know, some consumers bought them because they loved QWERTY keyboards or whatever. They should just do that again. You know, there's the rumor that Sony is cozying up and might maybe launch a Windows phone in 2014, the information published today. Tom Warren is a little bit dubious because of course Sony is talking to Microsoft. They're talking to whoever they can. But I guess I believe it. But Microsoft I'm sure is desperate to have anybody be like, yeah, we support Windows phone. They would give HP a bunch of money to make Windows phones, and it would differentiate them because there's no way that HP can compete with anybody in making a quality Android device. It's not going to happen. Right. Yeah, they've been down this road too many times at this point. It's actually hilarious how many times they've tried and failed to make phones. Because it's not just WebOS, right? They made Windows mobile devices on at least two different occasions. No, more than two. I think they probably made a half dozen of them over the years. Right, but I mean they bought Compact, Compact had the iPacks and then HP bought Compact, right? No, but you guys don't remember their messaging phones? They made like three or four QWERTY keyboard messaging phones, like Moto Q knockoffs. Right. Yeah, they had a really bad name for it. Gleam? Was it Gleam or Glissen? The Glissen, HP Glissen, that's what it was called. The HP Glissen. Oh man, memories. That is really bad. Yeah, that was on AT&T, right? I mean, frankly, I don't really care what HP does with phones. Like there's never going to be a thing that HP does with phones that's going to be interesting to me as a consumer, as a paying customer. Well, you don't know that. What if they release... I bought HP phones. I have HP phones a few feet away from me. And I'm never going to forgive them for it. Yeah, I've got a VIR 4G over there. It's branded HP. Hmm. I don't have a VIR. I have like six. Do you want one? Yeah, bring it to Vegas. I'll take some off your hands. Yeah, I can actually. I can bring the VIR if you really want. VIR is a little party phone, man. I still have never... They take the big SIMs, so they're a real pain in the neck to actually use. And if you screw up your SIM adapter to put a SIM in it, it's gone forever. You have to literally destroy the phone to get it out of the little spring ejector thing. Well, there was a period when like Woot or somebody was selling VIRs for like 20 bucks, so that would be a huge loss. Actually, what I'd like even more than that though is an AT&T Pre 3. I have that too. Well, of course you do. It's helped me. Yeah. Why are we talking about WebOS again? We have to stop. Never stop. Never forget. We talked about the Xperia Z Ultra and Z Ultra Google Play edition on the last level show. I don't know. You were here the last podcast, Dan. Yes, so I've got them here. They're really big. I'm just going to block out the sun with these just because they're so big. Oh, I opened the camera. They're total roller coasters. I've played with these phones. They're completely hilarious and stupid. They're super niche products. These things are sold unlocked online. You can't go into a carrier store and buy them. They're expensive as heck. They're obscenely large. If you are into that type of thing, if that gets your fancy going and you want to spend $700 on a device like this, buy the Xperia edition. I really do not understand why the Google Play edition exists because it is literally a blown up Nexus 5 with a worse camera. Now don't you think that a Z1 Google Play edition would actually do really well? Oh my god, a Z1 Google Play edition would be amazing. I would love a Z1 Google Play edition. The problem is this device here, the Z Ultra, is so big and is so close to actually being a tablet that when you put a standard phone interface and phone software on it, it's just goofy. It's not a great or efficient use of the screen size here. That's what the key difference between the Xperia version and the Google Play edition is, is that Sony actually bothered to do some, even the smallest amount of customization for the screen size, whereas the Google Play edition is none at all. It doesn't run the Nexus 7 software, it doesn't run tablet apps, it runs phone everything just like the Nexus 5. So that's why if you want to go down this route, more power to you, buy the Xperia edition is my suggestion. They should have put the Nexus 7 software on the Google Play edition, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean just add a dialer and you're done. Yeah, weird. But they didn't, so. And no Z1. See, the fact that there's no Z1 actually I think lends credence to my theory that we will see some American, one or more American carrier announcements for the Z1 at CES and there's probably an exclusive involved. I don't think you're wrong, but I mean it just goes back to that's a follow-up announcement to a flagship product that's already been out for months. It's not like they're unveiling their new flagship device. Right, right. What if we had a SmartWatch 3 at CES, is that possible? The SmartWatch 2 hit market in October I think. Yeah, but it was announced when? At IFA or before then? It was announced at IFA, yeah. Okay, so yeah, that's not long here, right. Did we lose Dieter? Where's Dieter? I'm trying to make an app work and it's failing. So, I was going to play the, am I here? Yeah, you are here, yes. Yeah, I was going to play the, this is the worst. Oh my god, hang on, just let me get back to the video. What is happening? I have no idea how to get back to you guys right now. What happened to you? I clicked the YouTube app to try and play the ridiculous, horrible Galaxy Gear commercial from YouTube, and having done that, I literally cannot see what's going on right now. I like to refer to that as the creep commercial. So yeah, I wanted to use Google Hangouts to display a YouTube video, but it won't let me add it, so I'm pretty sure that it's not allowed to be rebroadcast. Nevertheless, this Galaxy Gear commercial is an embarrassment. It's an utter travesty. You know, it's super awkward, it's super creepy, and it super doesn't work for the market that it appears to be selling to. And Sasir Segan at PCMag wrote a piece on this when it came out, and he kind of nailed why none of it works, in my opinion. You don't think so? No, I think he wrote a... This is what he said. He said that, you know, nobody in the video is American. It's very obvious that they're foreign, and English is not their first language, and the people that are making the marketing and the head of this are not from the Western culture, and that's why it just doesn't work, and it comes off as really awkward, and it doesn't fit in with the American market. Look, I mean, I get cultural differences, and I get that argument, and I think Sasho's right to make it to a degree, but at the end of the day, sexism is sexism, and churlish assholes are churlish assholes, and... And churlish is a great word. But as bad as that is, that's not my real problem here. My real problem isn't, like, here's this creepy stalker guy, although that's a big problem. My real problem is that the jerk, the pain in the ass guy, gets the girl in the end. I mean, you've seen Better Off Dead, I hope. If you haven't, stop what you're doing. Stop watching this, and go watch Better Off Dead, because it's amazing. John Cusack is supposed to get the girl. The guy who's clumsy and in the background and isn't sure of himself and has to, like, rise to the occasion to win the day, that's who gets the girl in the feel-good commercial. Not the jerk who's already the alpha male. When has Samsung ever made a feel-good commercial? Okay, their last commercial, what was it, for the Note 3, was about a soccer dude walking through a post-apocalyptic land filled with homeless children. The only good ad I can think that came out of Samsung in recent memory was the first Galaxy Gear ad, which was, it kind of hit the nail on the head. Well, I mean, some of the iPhone line ads are pretty good, and obviously the, I believe it was a thing called Love Ad is amazing. Oh, God, I forgot about that. That was at a Super Bowl ad, right? Yeah. What product was it for? It was for a Note. It had to have been a Note. Yeah, okay, it was just a Samsung ad. Yeah, it's unfortunate that their most recent good ad, the Galaxy Gear ad, was for such a terrible product, but what can you do? Yeah, and then their Super Bowl ad this year was the Paul Rudd ad, which was terrible. Oh, yeah, I remember that, and Seth Rogen was in it, right? Yeah. Yeah, and now they're not letting me find the other commercial. It must have been for a Note. I think it was a Note 2, because it was a year before last year. So maybe it was a Note 1, because last Super Bowl, the Note 2 would have been on the market. It must have been the original. It was 2012. Let's see if the U2 app will let me play this thing. I bet it won't. How ironic is that, that Samsung's not letting you spread their marketing? Yeah, it really is, actually. Add videos to playlist, search, darkness. No, it's a fail. Well, after you watch Better Off Dead, go look for that commercial. Yeah, but mostly just go watch Better Off Dead, because it's the best. What else do we have to talk about? Oh, so Verizon. Oh, no, go ahead. I was going to say Verizon confirmed today to the LA Times that, well, Best Buy confirmed, excuse me, that it will be carrying a Verizon version of the Moto G in the apparently very near future for $100 off contract, which is awesome price, great price for a phone. No LTE. No LTE, and it's prepaid, which means that 99% of Verizon customers will not care about it, because literally nobody buys prepaid phones on Verizon. Yeah, that's true, although I want to believe that's going to change soon. It's changing on T-Mobile. It's changing on Sprint for sure. In fact, there was a rumor that they were going to boost the budget, which they really ought to. But both of them offer really a lot of prepaid options and their competitive plans and everything. What are Verizon's prepaid plans right now? They were so terrible for so long, I don't even know if they've changed or if they're updated or if they support smartphones in any decent way that you could buy a lot of data on. So, I mean, the Moto G is an important device, and it's a great device for emerging markets, and it's important for Motorola, and it's cool that you can buy one for $100 in the US without a contract, but I don't foresee it being a big deal among actual buying consumers in the US. No, but it's a big deal in concept. It's a big deal that you can get a pretty decent phone for $100. So, like, and they – Right now, CyanogenMod is the thing that you, if you're into hacking, then you put on your phone, or if you've got an old Android phone that hasn't been updated by your manufacturer, CyanogenMod gives you a newer version of Android and things like that. But if they want to be a successful company making a profit and all that other fun stuff, they need to be just like another HTC Sense or another Samsung TouchWiz, just another option under the Android umbrella for people. So, they've got a lot of work and a long road ahead of them. I just – I want to know what they're going to do with $23 million. I really do, because I could see them – okay, I know – I could see them spending $23 million to make something amazing. No question. I understand that. What I don't understand is how they are – like, the people investing in them think that they have a really good chance at a return. You know what I would do with $23 million if I were a CyanogenMod? I would rent out XS in Vegas for a night and just burn through magnum after magnum after magnum of Dom, and it just blow it – I would get in like Afrojack and like – Who would play at that show? Who would you get to play at that show? Like Tiësto? Yeah, Tiësto, Afrojack, maybe like Gareth Emery or something. Yeah, and it would just go – the party would go from like 6 p.m. to like 6 a.m. and then at the end of that, the goal would be to have not a single dollar left. So to answer Dieter's correct question, I think investors are not looking for CyanogenMod to turn a profit ever. I think they are hoping that they get bought by a bigger company and that's their payout. They hope that Google will buy them and absorb them into Android or an actual smartphone manufacturer will buy them and use them as their software. Yeah, I think that's probably what you're – Your video, Dan, is blowing my mind. Like just watching you just like sitting there listening to somebody when you're actually talking. I know, it's driving me nuts because it's like my avatar is not updated at all and I'm confused as to if I'm in frame or not in frame or if I've got a booger hanging off my nose. I'm sticking with black and white from now on, by the way. This is pretty awesome. I feel pretty boss right here. This is Aces. I don't – how do I change this? I think it was last year. I can't remember who I was writing about but I wrote a post and used a black and white picture of them and everyone thought that that was like code for the person had died. And like there were a lot of comments that were like, oh my God, this person died. I got to find the post now. I can't remember who it was. I'm black and white and now I'm real time. Wow. Yeah. I'm telling you, man, black and white is where it's at. You guys are both bad. You should get with the program. I don't know how to make it black and white. You click yourself and then you have the drop down on the upper right. Underneath the little thing that says it's live. No, I only have – no, I only have profile and mute. No, click yourself. Yeah, I did. And then when you're big, underneath the yellow live button. Oh, I see. Now you're changing colors. Compelling radio, ladies. So, wow, Chris is really bad at this. So we're getting word from our producer that the stream went down for a couple of minutes to summarize what we were talking about. When did it go down? I mean, we talked about like – I could show you guys how big the phone is again. Where'd it go? It's such a big phone, I've lost it. We talked about gerbils and Richard Gere. We'll talk to you if you get that reference. And we talked about – This is big phones. The correct pronunciation of the word DOGE. We talked about why would anybody give CyanogenMod $23 million. Not that we don't believe in CyanogenMod, but we're curious as to how they're actually going to recoup that money for their investors. That's about it. Also, we talked about Google Hangouts because we're egotistical maniacs and we only care about the things that are directly in front of our faces. Oh, I also talked about how to throw an insane private party at Club XS in Vegas. For CyanogenMod starring Tiesta. Yes. Yeah. And with that, I think it's time to wrap up The Vergecast. Not The Vergecast, The Verge Mobile Show. Someday we will be as good as The Vergecast, but that day is not today, clearly. If you want to follow us on Twitter, you absolutely should. I am at back on Dan as DCC for Chris is Zed Power. Vlad, who we miss dearly, is Vlad Savov. Evan, who is watching over us, I guess. I'm looking at his avatar in the corner. It's freaking me out. Is it Evan R. Rogers? Is that right? I think it's just Evan Rogers. It's just Evan Rogers? Okay. It's just Evan Rogers with an R, it turns out. Oh, and actually, you should check out some of our big stories. We doxxed Doge today. We've got a great video from Jordan Applinger on how to take pictures with your iPhone that you really should check out. It's super helpful. We did a big stories in 2013 too, so take a look at those. Follow us on Verge. Leave a comment on this very post on The Verge. Post something in the forums, and happy New Year, everybody. Bye-bye, 2013. | [
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"text": " which is perfect timing with CES a couple days away. So I have a bunch of jars of pills,"
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"text": " So yeah, it's a mess. So I apologize if I'm not making any sense on this show or if I"
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"text": " without incident."
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"text": " So you just have random jars of pills on your kitchen counter unlabeled?"
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"text": " I love how Chris is trying to use the I'm sick excuse to have random jars of pills just"
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"text": " Well, it's true. I have probably 10 supplements that I'm taking right now between garlic and"
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"text": " Are you trying to ward off vampires?"
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"text": " Well, no. I'm using every supplement that has been so much as rumored to possibly shorten"
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"text": " What do we call it? CES SARS?"
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"text": " Maybe. David has the same thing I think. So either one of us could get everyone sick."
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"text": " The other thing that this makes me think of is that instead of actually writing about"
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"text": " Drinking the blood of weary tech journalists."
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"text": " I'd read it. By the way, whose cockamamie idea was it to have a Verge Mobile show today"
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"text": " on New Year's Eve?"
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"text": " Believe it or not."
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"text": " Yours."
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"text": " Good job, Chris."
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"text": " Dan. Evan, please escort Dan off the premise. Oh, you can't. You're not in the – neither"
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"text": " one of you are in the office."
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"text": " Sweet tar."
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"text": " Yeah. Okay, so like CES is coming. It starts in like mere days. Mere, mere days. And I"
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"text": " CES what, since the pre? We're talking like five, six years?"
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"text": " No, there was – what was it, two, three years ago when the LG revolution –"
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"text": " No, didn't –"
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"text": " ATC Thunderbolt was the first."
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"start": 298,
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " I remember that."
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"text": " Yeah, it was."
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"text": " and like lightning just kept on shooting across the entire auditorium over and over and over"
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"text": " again."
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"text": " Yeah, but the really exotic stuff about it, like the fingerprint scanner sucked and the web top"
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"text": " No, it's not available on any US carrier yet."
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"text": " In the shower."
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"text": " And we're going to have 4K displays on phones here in what, 2015?"
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"text": " What is that, like 1000 PPI? Awesome."
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"text": " And how many phones on AT&T can work with T-Mobile's LTE?"
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"text": " The number is much higher now than it used to be."
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"text": " And there's no way that's going to happen."
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"text": " It's got to be that."
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"text": " So I honestly I think –"
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"text": " Ah."
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"text": " but there was a rumor that we could see a Galaxy Gear 2 at CES."
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"text": " That's nuts."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That's no way that would happen."
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"text": " That's a nutty rumor."
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"text": " I agree that seems implausible, but –"
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"text": " There would need to be a lot of other things fixed with the Galaxy Gear before I even consider that."
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"text": " Yeah, and also Samsung would be more likely to make a Galaxy Gear Note,"
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"text": " which is twice the size of the head stylus."
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"text": " And you know I'm right."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Yeah, so we'll see."
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"text": " But Samsung is doing something at CES."
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"text": " Samsung, well, they've got a million toaster ovens and microwaves and crap that they need to announce."
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"text": " Listen, man, all I want to do is be watching Megyn Kelly on Fox News"
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"text": " and then swipe her off my screen."
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"text": " Yeah, it can't be any worse."
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"text": " That's not my experience, friendo."
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"text": " What do you guys use for Gmail?"
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"text": " Do you use Mailbox?"
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"text": " The Gmail app is terrible."
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"text": " No, it's normally okay."
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"text": " Dude, use an Android phone for a day."
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"text": " No, no, no, no argument."
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"text": " If you want to talk about a steaming pile of hot garbage,"
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"text": " So are you using an iPad Air or a Mini or what?"
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"text": " Well, there's your problem, obviously."
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"text": " so I have a giant hotspot."
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"text": " Well, so that's what I was debating buying, a Mini Retina with Verizon."
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"text": " Like you're an AT&T customer."
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"text": " Yeah, my obsession is that I'm an AT&T customer for my phone,"
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"text": " I might guarantee, but I have a better chance of actually getting a signal"
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"text": " when I need it when I'm in dire straits."
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"text": " I'm doing my job, man."
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"text": " I've got to have as many different ways to get online as possible."
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"text": " No, I love having LTE on my tablet."
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"text": " to have it be on an alternate network, so I've got options."
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"text": " How does that actually – because I can add a tablet to my AT&T account"
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"text": " for $10 a month, and there's no way that you have a standalone –"
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"text": " Yeah, so it's $30 a month."
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"text": " That's a lot of money."
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"text": " You're paying $10, so I'm paying an extra $20 to have –"
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"text": " it's worth $20 a month to me."
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"text": " I mean, that's at least – To provide news and information to our viewers."
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"text": " Why don't you care about the people that go to the verge?"
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"text": " I care about no one."
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"text": " Oh, Chris, you're awake."
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"text": " You were looking down there."
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"text": " I thought maybe we lost you."
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"text": " Well, my very unusual monitor setup here makes it look like"
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"text": " I'm nodding off at all times basically."
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"text": " I apologize."
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"text": " So I'm currently in my brand new apartment in Brooklyn in our office,"
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"text": " which is yet to be set up, which is why everything looks weird and strange."
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"text": " I only, minutes before the podcast started, got my keyboard and trackpad working."
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"text": " Anything else you guys want to talk about with CES?"
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"text": " I mean, you're both bringing iPhones."
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"text": " Well, I'm bringing an iPhone, and I'm also bringing my Moto X,"
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"text": " and I'm also bringing my HTC One, because invariably a battery will die,"
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"text": " and I'm just going to jump my SIM over to my phone."
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"text": " I've got one of the knockoff ones that's..."
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"text": " Oh, that looks horrible."
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"text": " A no-name brand that I paid like 30 bucks for for the iPhone,"
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"text": " And it feels really nerve-wracking to not have a giant freaking battery"
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"text": " Yeah, but you'll have plenty of heads up when you're getting low."
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"text": " and I didn't even think about this for CES, this is going to be a problem,"
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"text": " So that's not good."
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"text": " You want to know what I'm doing right now?"
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"text": " What?"
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"text": " I am buying a charger for a Sony NEX 6 camera."
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"text": " You know why?"
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"text": " Because despite the fact that this thing claims that it charges over micro USB,"
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"text": " Only the one that comes with it works, and I've lost it in the move,"
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"text": " so I can't charge my camera."
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"text": " I've sung Sony's praises for its cameras so many times,"
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"text": " Not Bluetooth."
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"text": " Whatever, it's 1.something and 2.1."
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"text": " And so iPad charging levels, iPad charging levels won't charge it."
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"text": " you can't really use the camera and charge at the same time."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " This is me ordering batteries and an external charger"
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"text": " and having it shipped to the hotel in Las Vegas right now."
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"text": " I actually left my charger in CES last year."
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"text": " You know what charges over any cable in any situation whatsoever?"
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"text": " An iPhone 5S?"
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{
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"text": " Oh, that's like..."
},
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"end": 1782,
"text": " No, the RX100 Mark II."
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " You can look at that camera and it will start charging."
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"text": " I've never been in a micro USB situation where it didn't charge."
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"text": " I love that camera."
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"text": " It's the only camera I'm taking to CES, by the way."
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"text": " This is a huge fail."
},
{
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"text": " Okay, well we talked CES to death."
},
{
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"text": " Get ready."
},
{
"start": 1803,
"end": 1805,
"text": " But we should talk about Blackberry."
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"text": " In the two weeks since we podcasted,"
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"text": " they have announced their quarterly results,"
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"text": " which were of course a huge fail."
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"text": " They sold way more Blackberry 7 devices,"
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"text": " which is of course an embarrassment."
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"text": " They called off their Blackberry Live conferences."
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"text": " and now they're like, nope, sorry, they're getting rid of those factories,"
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"text": " Which is a huge shift."
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"text": " We can talk about that when you're done wrapping up."
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"text": " Well, it's actually an important shift for them,"
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"text": " because to be honest, one of the things that they like to brag about"
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"text": " is they own the whole chain end to end,"
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"text": " and that mattered for security at DOD levels."
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"text": " And they specifically always like to brag about how nothing was made in China,"
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"text": " and that they manufactured things in Mexico and other places,"
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"text": " as a security selling point."
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"text": " And since we all know that Foxconn is based out of China now,"
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{
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"end": 1880,
"text": " that doesn't look like it's going to be upheld."
},
{
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"end": 1885,
"text": " Whoa, bless you."
},
{
"start": 1885,
"end": 1888,
"text": " See, you're catching my cold over the intertune."
},
{
"start": 1888,
"end": 1890,
"text": " It's happening."
},
{
"start": 1890,
"end": 1892,
"text": " I'm infecting you."
},
{
"start": 1892,
"end": 1894,
"text": " By looking at you."
},
{
"start": 1894,
"end": 1897,
"text": " Look deep into my eyes, Dieter."
},
{
"start": 1897,
"end": 1902,
"text": " And then the last thing is the new CEO, John Chen,"
},
{
"start": 1902,
"end": 1908,
"text": " decided he was going to, for like the fifth time in the past month,"
},
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"end": 1912,
"text": " tell everybody, hey guys, BlackBerry's cool, we've got a plan."
},
{
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"end": 1914,
"text": " And this time he enumerated the plan."
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"end": 1920,
"text": " CNBC published this letter that he wrote, this commentary that he wrote,"
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{
"start": 1920,
"end": 1922,
"text": " and his plan for BlackBerry,"
},
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"end": 1925,
"text": " he's like here's what we're going to do, we're going to turn around,"
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{
"start": 1925,
"end": 1927,
"text": " we're going to focus on the fundamentals."
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{
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"end": 1932,
"text": " Their fundamentals are, sorry, their core business drivers are"
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"end": 1938,
"text": " Enterprise, BBM, QNX, and the hardware business."
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{
"start": 1938,
"end": 1940,
"text": " That's four."
},
{
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"end": 1944,
"text": " And looking at them, like Enterprise, yeah,"
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{
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"end": 1947,
"text": " like you still got a big install base there,"
},
{
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"end": 1950,
"text": " but you are like one upgrade cycle away and it's fading fast."
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"end": 1952,
"text": " And your defense department contracts,"
},
{
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"end": 1955,
"text": " I know that you've got like more security clearance than most people,"
},
{
"start": 1955,
"end": 1959,
"text": " but it's not going to last very long, bro, sorry."
},
{
"start": 1959,
"end": 1962,
"text": " Next, what do we have next?"
},
{
"start": 1962,
"end": 1964,
"text": " BBM."
},
{
"start": 1964,
"end": 1967,
"text": " You think you're going to make money on messaging?"
},
{
"start": 1967,
"end": 1969,
"text": " Next."
},
{
"start": 1969,
"end": 1971,
"text": " QNX."
},
{
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"end": 1974,
"text": " Yeah, okay, we'll leave QNX, you'll make a little bit of money there,"
},
{
"start": 1974,
"end": 1977,
"text": " you'll embed it in some cars, you'll make RTOS's,"
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"end": 1981,
"text": " you'll get some stuff there, but it's not going to be like a real business."
},
{
"start": 1981,
"end": 1983,
"text": " But we're going to hang on to QNX, just because, yeah,"
},
{
"start": 1983,
"end": 1985,
"text": " that's a viable business."
},
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"end": 1988,
"text": " Hardware business, selling BlackBerry to consumers,"
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"end": 1992,
"text": " this is your future BlackBerry."
},
{
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"end": 1994,
"text": " That was well planned, Dieter."
},
{
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"end": 1999,
"text": " For those of you not watching the video portion of the podcast,"
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{
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"end": 2003,
"text": " I just flipped John Chen, CEO of BlackBerry, the bird."
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{
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"end": 2010,
"text": " Does anybody disagree with my analysis of John Chen's plan to stay at BlackBerry?"
},
{
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"end": 2013,
"text": " You shouldn't have picked four core things,"
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{
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"end": 2017,
"text": " you should have picked one or two, and that should be it."
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{
"start": 2017,
"end": 2020,
"text": " No, but look, this is cowardice."
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"text": " This is him refusing to burn the things that need to be burned"
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"text": " in order for the company to survive in a real way."
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"text": " Here's why I don't agree."
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"text": " I think that Chen was dealt the same impossible hand that Torsten was dealt,"
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"text": " and you can look at any single one of those businesses,"
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"text": " and if he had said, we're just going to focus on this,"
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"text": " we would have been laughing at him."
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"text": " There's no right answer for this guy."
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"text": " BlackBerry has been at the poker table for ten years,"
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"text": " and for the past three years,"
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"text": " everybody that's been sitting there, and the guy's like, tap out,"
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"end": 2063,
"text": " play my next hand for me, and the new guy sits down and plays the next hand."
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"text": " Torsten Hein comes in, looks at the hand, and it's a two and a four,"
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"text": " and then he gets a two and a four again, two and a four again,"
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"start": 2072,
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"text": " and he keeps betting and whatever, he doubles down,"
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"start": 2075,
"end": 2080,
"text": " even though it's a different betting game, the wrong metaphor, but stay with me."
},
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"start": 2080,
"end": 2083,
"text": " John Chen is getting that same two and four,"
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"start": 2083,
"end": 2088,
"text": " and at some point, what's going on?"
},
{
"start": 2088,
"end": 2090,
"text": " I'm playing the gambler, Kenny Rogers."
},
{
"start": 2090,
"end": 2091,
"text": " Oh, yeah."
},
{
"start": 2091,
"end": 2093,
"text": " You know what all of that is?"
},
{
"start": 2093,
"end": 2096,
"text": " And this is when we get pulled from YouTube."
},
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"end": 2102,
"text": " It's not you should know when to hold them and know when to fold them."
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"text": " It's you should know when to hold them and know when to flip the table"
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"text": " and blow everything up because you are losing,"
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"start": 2108,
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"text": " and you need to cut things off,"
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"end": 2114,
"text": " and that is what he's refusing to do here."
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"start": 2114,
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"text": " Like you should not be doing – like BBM, sell it."
},
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"text": " It's not a money maker. Let it go."
},
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"start": 2121,
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"text": " Sell it to who?"
},
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"text": " Whoever wants it."
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"start": 2123,
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"text": " I'm sure what's up is happy to buy it for $50."
},
{
"start": 2127,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"start": 2128,
"end": 2132,
"text": " Like don't say that these four things are the core of your business."
},
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"end": 2135,
"text": " Just say we're going to do enterprise,"
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"text": " and there's a bunch of other stuff."
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"text": " We'll see what happens with it, and that's it."
},
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"text": " You know, Nokia went from making tires and booths to making cars."
},
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"start": 2144,
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"text": " Why can't Blackberry go from making phones to making fine china?"
},
{
"start": 2148,
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"text": " You know, maybe they just need to look for a different business."
},
{
"start": 2151,
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"text": " Just throwing that out there."
},
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"start": 2153,
"end": 2155,
"text": " Maybe they need to be a maple syrup distributor."
},
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"text": " They should have kept their name RIM then if they were making glasses in China."
},
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"start": 2158,
"end": 2159,
"text": " Yeah, research and mustard."
},
{
"start": 2159,
"end": 2160,
"text": " It's true."
},
{
"start": 2160,
"end": 2162,
"text": " They could have made cars."
},
{
"start": 2162,
"end": 2165,
"text": " Yeah, or you know, Fruit Preserves."
},
{
"start": 2165,
"end": 2167,
"text": " The name is appropriate."
},
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"start": 2167,
"end": 2170,
"text": " Fruit Preserves."
},
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"start": 2170,
"end": 2174,
"text": " Wow."
},
{
"start": 2174,
"end": 2177,
"text": " I guess you could say they're in a real Blackberry jam."
},
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"start": 2177,
"end": 2181,
"text": " No."
},
{
"start": 2181,
"end": 2183,
"text": " I thought you were going to say pickle, and I was going to be like,"
},
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"start": 2183,
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"text": " that makes no sense."
},
{
"start": 2184,
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"text": " That actually would have been way better."
},
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"start": 2193,
"end": 2194,
"text": " Man, we've been really bad."
},
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"start": 2194,
"end": 2196,
"text": " Two weeks ago, I had a lot of great cheap puns."
},
{
"start": 2196,
"end": 2200,
"text": " I'm going to keep that streak going."
},
{
"start": 2200,
"end": 2202,
"text": " What are we talking about?"
},
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"start": 2202,
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"text": " I don't care anymore."
},
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"start": 2204,
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"text": " I was just noticing like we should have, when we were talking about WebOS,"
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"start": 2208,
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"text": " we should have brought up the fact that HP is going to make phones again."
},
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"text": " They're just going to make like basically glorified tablets,"
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"text": " call them phones, and launch a vagina."
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"text": " That's the rumor."
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"text": " This is hilarious to me on multiple levels."
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"text": " First of all, they have been making this like ridiculous low-end Android tablet"
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"text": " that nobody cares about for like a year."
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"text": " It's so bad."
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"text": " It's so bad, and like I don't know who's buying it."
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"text": " Secondly, this is the exact same strategy that Dell took with its mobile program"
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"text": " after it couldn't make a dent with the Venu Pro in the US."
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"text": " They sold low-end Android crap in China, and that went nowhere,"
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"text": " and then they shut the business down."
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"text": " So I don't know why HP thinks it can succeed where Dell couldn't."
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"text": " HP should just take Microsoft money and make Windows phones."
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{
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"text": " Yes."
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{
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"text": " I'm not kidding."
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{
"start": 2255,
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"text": " Like they did that back in the day."
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"text": " Before they bought WebOS, that was their mobile strategy."
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"text": " Make corporate phones that nobody cared about but some businesses would buy,"
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"text": " make a bunch of money off of those enterprise customers"
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"text": " and Microsoft paying them to make those Windows mobile phones,"
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"start": 2269,
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"text": " and it was a win-win."
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"text": " And you know, some consumers bought them because they loved QWERTY keyboards"
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"text": " or whatever."
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"text": " They should just do that again."
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"text": " You know, there's the rumor that Sony is cozying up"
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"text": " and might maybe launch a Windows phone in 2014, the information published today."
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"text": " Tom Warren is a little bit dubious because of course Sony is talking to Microsoft."
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"text": " They're talking to whoever they can."
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"text": " But I guess I believe it."
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"text": " But Microsoft I'm sure is desperate to have anybody be like,"
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"text": " yeah, we support Windows phone."
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"text": " They would give HP a bunch of money to make Windows phones,"
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"text": " and it would differentiate them because there's no way that HP can compete"
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"text": " with anybody in making a quality Android device."
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"text": " It's not going to happen."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Yeah, they've been down this road too many times at this point."
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"text": " It's actually hilarious how many times they've tried and failed to make phones."
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"text": " Because it's not just WebOS, right?"
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"text": " They made Windows mobile devices on at least two different occasions."
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"text": " No, more than two. I think they probably made a half dozen of them over the years."
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{
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"text": " Right, but I mean they bought Compact,"
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"text": " Compact had the iPacks and then HP bought Compact, right?"
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"text": " No, but you guys don't remember their messaging phones?"
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"start": 2345,
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"text": " They made like three or four QWERTY keyboard messaging phones,"
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"start": 2348,
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"text": " like Moto Q knockoffs."
},
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"start": 2351,
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"text": " Right."
},
{
"start": 2353,
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"text": " Yeah, they had a really bad name for it."
},
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"start": 2356,
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"text": " Gleam? Was it Gleam or Glissen?"
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"text": " The Glissen, HP Glissen, that's what it was called."
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"start": 2361,
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"text": " The HP Glissen. Oh man, memories."
},
{
"start": 2363,
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"text": " That is really bad."
},
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"text": " Yeah, that was on AT&T, right?"
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"text": " I mean, frankly, I don't really care what HP does with phones."
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"text": " that's going to be interesting to me as a consumer, as a paying customer."
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{
"start": 2381,
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"text": " Well, you don't know that. What if they release..."
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"text": " I bought HP phones."
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"text": " I have HP phones a few feet away from me."
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"text": " Yeah, I've got a VIR 4G over there. It's branded HP."
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"text": " Hmm. I don't have a VIR."
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"text": " I have like six. Do you want one?"
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{
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"text": " Yeah, bring it to Vegas. I'll take some off your hands."
},
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"text": " Yeah, I can actually. I can bring the VIR if you really want."
},
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"text": " VIR is a little party phone, man."
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{
"start": 2412,
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"text": " I still have never..."
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"text": " They take the big SIMs, so they're a real pain in the neck to actually use."
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"text": " And if you screw up your SIM adapter to put a SIM in it, it's gone forever."
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"text": " You have to literally destroy the phone to get it out of the little spring ejector thing."
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"text": " Well, there was a period when like Woot or somebody was selling VIRs for like 20 bucks,"
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},
{
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"text": " Actually, what I'd like even more than that though is an AT&T Pre 3."
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"text": " I have that too."
},
{
"start": 2441,
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"text": " Well, of course you do."
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"text": " It's helped me."
},
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"start": 2447,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
{
"start": 2449,
"end": 2452,
"text": " Why are we talking about WebOS again? We have to stop."
},
{
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"text": " Never stop. Never forget."
},
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"text": " We talked about the Xperia Z Ultra and Z Ultra Google Play edition on the last level show."
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"text": " I don't know. You were here the last podcast, Dan."
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"text": " Yes, so I've got them here. They're really big."
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"start": 2468,
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"text": " I'm just going to block out the sun with these just because they're so big."
},
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"text": " Oh, I opened the camera."
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"text": " They're total roller coasters."
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"text": " I've played with these phones. They're completely hilarious and stupid."
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"text": " They're super niche products."
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"text": " These things are sold unlocked online. You can't go into a carrier store and buy them."
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"text": " They're expensive as heck. They're obscenely large."
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"text": " If you are into that type of thing, if that gets your fancy going"
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"text": " and you want to spend $700 on a device like this, buy the Xperia edition."
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"text": " because it is literally a blown up Nexus 5 with a worse camera."
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"text": " Now don't you think that a Z1 Google Play edition would actually do really well?"
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"text": " Oh my god, a Z1 Google Play edition would be amazing."
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"text": " I would love a Z1 Google Play edition."
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"text": " The problem is this device here, the Z Ultra, is so big"
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"text": " and is so close to actually being a tablet that when you put a standard phone interface"
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"text": " and phone software on it, it's just goofy."
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"text": " It's not a great or efficient use of the screen size here."
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"text": " That's what the key difference between the Xperia version and the Google Play edition is,"
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"text": " is that Sony actually bothered to do some, even the smallest amount of customization for the screen size,"
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"text": " whereas the Google Play edition is none at all."
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"text": " It doesn't run the Nexus 7 software, it doesn't run tablet apps,"
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"text": " it runs phone everything just like the Nexus 5."
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},
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"text": " They should have put the Nexus 7 software on the Google Play edition, right?"
},
{
"start": 2572,
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"text": " Yeah, yeah."
},
{
"start": 2574,
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"text": " I mean just add a dialer and you're done."
},
{
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"text": " Yeah, weird."
},
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"text": " But they didn't, so."
},
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"text": " And no Z1."
},
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"start": 2585,
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"text": " See, the fact that there's no Z1 actually I think lends credence to my theory"
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"text": " that we will see some American, one or more American carrier announcements for the Z1 at CES"
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"text": " and there's probably an exclusive involved."
},
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"text": " I don't think you're wrong, but I mean it just goes back to that's a follow-up announcement to a flagship product"
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"text": " that's already been out for months."
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"text": " It's not like they're unveiling their new flagship device."
},
{
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"text": " Right, right."
},
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"text": " What if we had a SmartWatch 3 at CES, is that possible?"
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"text": " The SmartWatch 2 hit market in October I think."
},
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"start": 2622,
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"text": " Yeah, but it was announced when? At IFA or before then?"
},
{
"start": 2627,
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"text": " It was announced at IFA, yeah."
},
{
"start": 2629,
"end": 2632,
"text": " Okay, so yeah, that's not long here, right."
},
{
"start": 2632,
"end": 2639,
"text": " Did we lose Dieter? Where's Dieter?"
},
{
"start": 2639,
"end": 2644,
"text": " I'm trying to make an app work and it's failing."
},
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"start": 2644,
"end": 2650,
"text": " So, I was going to play the, am I here?"
},
{
"start": 2650,
"end": 2652,
"text": " Yeah, you are here, yes."
},
{
"start": 2652,
"end": 2655,
"text": " Yeah, I was going to play the, this is the worst."
},
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"start": 2655,
"end": 2658,
"text": " Oh my god, hang on, just let me get back to the video."
},
{
"start": 2658,
"end": 2660,
"text": " What is happening?"
},
{
"start": 2660,
"end": 2663,
"text": " I have no idea how to get back to you guys right now."
},
{
"start": 2663,
"end": 2666,
"text": " What happened to you?"
},
{
"start": 2666,
"end": 2670,
"text": " I clicked the YouTube app to try and play the ridiculous,"
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"start": 2670,
"end": 2674,
"text": " horrible Galaxy Gear commercial from YouTube,"
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"start": 2674,
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"text": " and having done that, I literally cannot see what's going on right now."
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"text": " I like to refer to that as the creep commercial."
},
{
"start": 2682,
"end": 2688,
"text": " So yeah, I wanted to use Google Hangouts to display a YouTube video,"
},
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"start": 2688,
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"text": " but it won't let me add it, so I'm pretty sure that it's not allowed to be rebroadcast."
},
{
"start": 2697,
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"text": " Nevertheless, this Galaxy Gear commercial is an embarrassment."
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"text": " It's an utter travesty."
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"start": 2704,
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"text": " You know, it's super awkward, it's super creepy,"
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"text": " and it super doesn't work for the market that it appears to be selling to."
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"text": " And Sasir Segan at PCMag wrote a piece on this when it came out,"
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"text": " and he kind of nailed why none of it works, in my opinion."
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"text": " You don't think so?"
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"text": " No, I think he wrote a..."
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"text": " This is what he said."
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"text": " He said that, you know, nobody in the video is American."
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"text": " It's very obvious that they're foreign, and English is not their first language,"
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"text": " and the people that are making the marketing and the head of this are not from the Western culture,"
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"text": " and that's why it just doesn't work, and it comes off as really awkward,"
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"text": " and it doesn't fit in with the American market."
},
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"start": 2747,
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"text": " Look, I mean, I get cultural differences, and I get that argument,"
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"text": " and I think Sasho's right to make it to a degree,"
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"text": " but at the end of the day, sexism is sexism, and churlish assholes are churlish assholes, and..."
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"start": 2761,
"end": 2764,
"text": " And churlish is a great word."
},
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"start": 2764,
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"text": " But as bad as that is, that's not my real problem here."
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"start": 2769,
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"text": " My real problem isn't, like, here's this creepy stalker guy, although that's a big problem."
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"text": " My real problem is that the jerk, the pain in the ass guy, gets the girl in the end."
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"start": 2780,
"end": 2783,
"text": " I mean, you've seen Better Off Dead, I hope."
},
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"start": 2783,
"end": 2785,
"text": " If you haven't, stop what you're doing."
},
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"start": 2785,
"end": 2791,
"text": " Stop watching this, and go watch Better Off Dead, because it's amazing."
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{
"start": 2791,
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"text": " John Cusack is supposed to get the girl."
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"text": " The guy who's clumsy and in the background and isn't sure of himself"
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"text": " and has to, like, rise to the occasion to win the day,"
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"text": " that's who gets the girl in the feel-good commercial."
},
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"start": 2804,
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"text": " Not the jerk who's already the alpha male."
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"text": " When has Samsung ever made a feel-good commercial?"
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"start": 2810,
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"text": " Okay, their last commercial, what was it, for the Note 3,"
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"start": 2814,
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"text": " was about a soccer dude walking through a post-apocalyptic land filled with homeless children."
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"text": " The only good ad I can think that came out of Samsung in recent memory"
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"text": " was the first Galaxy Gear ad, which was, it kind of hit the nail on the head."
},
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"start": 2833,
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"text": " Well, I mean, some of the iPhone line ads are pretty good,"
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"text": " and obviously the, I believe it was a thing called Love Ad is amazing."
},
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"start": 2844,
"end": 2847,
"text": " Oh, God, I forgot about that. That was at a Super Bowl ad, right?"
},
{
"start": 2847,
"end": 2848,
"text": " Yeah."
},
{
"start": 2848,
"end": 2850,
"text": " What product was it for?"
},
{
"start": 2850,
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"text": " It was for a Note. It had to have been a Note."
},
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"start": 2853,
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"text": " Yeah, okay, it was just a Samsung ad."
},
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"start": 2857,
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"text": " Yeah, it's unfortunate that their most recent good ad, the Galaxy Gear ad,"
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"start": 2864,
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"text": " was for such a terrible product, but what can you do?"
},
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"start": 2868,
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"text": " Yeah, and then their Super Bowl ad this year was the Paul Rudd ad, which was terrible."
},
{
"start": 2873,
"end": 2876,
"text": " Oh, yeah, I remember that, and Seth Rogen was in it, right?"
},
{
"start": 2876,
"end": 2880,
"text": " Yeah."
},
{
"start": 2880,
"end": 2883,
"text": " Yeah, and now they're not letting me find the other commercial."
},
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"start": 2883,
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"text": " It must have been for a Note."
},
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"text": " I think it was a Note 2, because it was a year before last year."
},
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"start": 2888,
"end": 2896,
"text": " So maybe it was a Note 1, because last Super Bowl, the Note 2 would have been on the market."
},
{
"start": 2896,
"end": 2897,
"text": " It must have been the original."
},
{
"start": 2897,
"end": 2901,
"text": " It was 2012."
},
{
"start": 2901,
"end": 2905,
"text": " Let's see if the U2 app will let me play this thing. I bet it won't."
},
{
"start": 2905,
"end": 2910,
"text": " How ironic is that, that Samsung's not letting you spread their marketing?"
},
{
"start": 2910,
"end": 2912,
"text": " Yeah, it really is, actually."
},
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"start": 2912,
"end": 2918,
"text": " Add videos to playlist, search, darkness."
},
{
"start": 2918,
"end": 2920,
"text": " No, it's a fail."
},
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"start": 2920,
"end": 2926,
"text": " Well, after you watch Better Off Dead, go look for that commercial."
},
{
"start": 2926,
"end": 2933,
"text": " Yeah, but mostly just go watch Better Off Dead, because it's the best."
},
{
"start": 2933,
"end": 2935,
"text": " What else do we have to talk about?"
},
{
"start": 2935,
"end": 2936,
"text": " Oh, so Verizon."
},
{
"start": 2936,
"end": 2937,
"text": " Oh, no, go ahead."
},
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"text": " We did a big stories in 2013 too, so take a look at those."
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"text": " Post something in the forums, and happy New Year, everybody."
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For the $8,099 price of this Pro alone, you could buy the highest-end iMac possible, stick it on the floor underneath your desk, and hook up that same Sharp 4K monitor, and save thousands of dollars. The Pro's black case is removable, letting you access a lot of the device's parts. You can swap out the solid-state hard drive, the GPUs, or upgrade the RAM all very easily, but they require seriously specific hardware. It's not nearly as expandable as the last-generation Pro, either. Apple made Thunderbolt for that. It'll mean a lot of messy desks next to the small tower, but it also makes moving devices and storage around a lot easier in most cases. This machine is clearly and explicitly made for people who work with video for a living. So we gave our Mac Pro to our video team, along with a red Epic camera, just to see how they felt. What they found, basically, was that the Mac Pro is the fastest, most impressive Mac ever. Sometimes. Especially if you also use Final Cut Pro X, which was able to play back four different 4K streams simultaneously with color correction on best performance mode, dropping few frames and looking really clean. In full resolution mode, there were noticeable drop frames, though. The new Final Cut Pro 10.1 is optimized to take advantage of those dual GPUs. They're really doing the heavy lifting here, and that makes the experience of using Final Cut feel extremely smooth on the Mac Pro. But for our video team, and frankly most video teams, that doesn't really matter. The Verge video crew uses Premiere Pro CC for editing, and in that case what the Mac Pro offers isn't quite so obvious. More than once a 2010 Mac Pro actually rendered videos faster than the new model. Up to 25% faster. Native, non-transcoded 4K red footage only played back smoothly at a quarter or a half of its native resolution. That seems to be because Premiere only uses the Mac Pro's CPU cores, not its GPUs, to handle video processing. Presumably, Adobe could update its apps to address this specific hardware, but until it does, Premiere on the Mac Pro is a story of diminishing returns. And in general, Premiere is the same experience it always is on any other machine, whether you're editing 1080p footage or 4K footage at half resolution. And once you're editing footage at that resolution, Premiere feels like it always has. The most obvious improvement in this year's Pro is the throughput. With fast solid state storage and fast RAM, the machine reads and writes insanely fast. A 30 second clip from a completely rendered timeline in Premiere, exported to a ProRes QuickTime in two seconds. When software is written to take advantage of the Pro's dual GPUs, it screams. That's why playing four streams of 4K video, raw from a red camera, is possible at all. But when it's not, it shows. 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4BDldk3VL-M | and welcome to the Vergecast for the week of December 16th, 2013. I'm Josh Dupolsky. I'm Dieter Bohn. I'm Ross Miller. And we are a Motley Crue. A little bit. We are a Motley Crue. We are listening to Motley Crue as well. Yeah. One of my favorite bands. These things are amazing. I was listening to Megadeth yesterday. Were you? True story. Countdown to extinction? Sweating bullets. Okay. Yeah. How was it? Are you a Megadeth fan? I was. Really? Yeah. Are you getting back into it? It was in my head and I listened to it and that's that. How did Megadeth end up in your head? I don't know. Sweating bullets was in my head and I watched the video and the video is terrible. Yeah. What year is that from? Is that his name? Yeah. Yeah. He just, he looks like such a little tiny man and the anger that I visualize in my head listening to it as a 13 year old compared to what he actually looks like. Yeah. Doesn't fit at all. You should read his book. Really? Yeah. He's got a guy called Tell All. I can't think of the name of it now. Laura read it and apparently it's hilarious. Is this like the usual 80s rock star Tell All? Kind of, yeah. And he talks about, he talks about like wearing like the sneakers that he wore and how like ahead of the curve, like in fashion he was. And anyhow, it's, it's a, you're going to think you're going to come up with, you're going to get the title. Is it Mustaine, a heavy metal memoir? I believe so. Who else would, who else would produce that document? Anyhow, this is the Vergecast where we discuss the week in Megadeth news and Dave Mustaine happenings. And it's actually like a really slow week in Vergecast style news. Yeah, because everybody is, is beginning to retire for the holidays. We're about to, we're about to retire to a holiday party. A Vox media, not going to tell you where or when it's happening, but I can tell you it is happening this evening. Except you just said after this. So I just told you after this. And so anyhow, everybody's like looking really dapper. Except I, I don't know, I forgot that there was a party and, and there was like in suits. I'm like, why is everybody wearing suits? And then I realized. We had a long discussion, but whether or not we should all wear ties to this. I said no. I see you guys said no to the tie discussion. I'm debating. I could get a tie going here. That would be enough, I think. As long as nobody looked at me from below the waist. Cause you're not wearing pants. No, I have pants on. Okay. But anyhow, so, so what are the, what are the stories of the week? I mean, obviously, should we talk about the elephant in the room? This elephant? Well, I don't know. I don't know. We got to talk about this. Yeah. Yeah. So this is the Mac, the Mac, this is the Mac Pro. Yes. Have you seen this thing? Have you heard about it? It's the Mac Pro. Can you give it to me? This is where we drop the Mac. It's 11 pounds by the way. This is where we drop the Mac Pro. You don't really have the reach for it, do you? Yeah. Yeah. Let's just bring it over here. Oh really? No, no. Don't, don't slide it onto this ad. Okay. You can hold it like a GameCube. Oh, it's warm. Oh, it's probably just on. Yeah. Right. It is actually surprisingly heavy. And you know, it's a beautiful looking, I mean it does look kind of like a humidifier. You know what I mean? It does look like something. Everybody's going about with trash can. Trash can or vacuum or a humidifier. And can you see, here's the back panel here. You got some, some, some connectors, some ports there, some connections. It's you know, it's beautiful. It's wonderful. We should open it up. It's the nicest looking, I don't know how, how do you open it? So there's just one button right there. Set it down. Uh huh. Like that. There's a switch. This one here? Yeah. Okay. Slide that to unlock and then it makes a shoo noise. Just lift up the top. I wouldn't say it made that shoo noise. Here it is. Here's some, the, where the RAM, wait, actually these are, what are these? Is this RAM? RAMs must be, I sound like an idiot. What? Move my glass? Sure. Of course I will. So the RAM's over here. Wait, what is this? Are these the SSDs? Yes, the RAM. Oh, okay. That's what those are I think. So those are, no, that's RAM. It's on both sides. Yeah. Okay. Or did I just go, did I go 360 degrees? The worst part is we don't know if you're referencing the thing that points, that you're pointing at the camera or us or what. No, it doesn't matter. There's pieces arranged in a triangle. We're stopping here. Anyhow, let's just say it's not very upgradable. No. This is it. But the idea for this is that it's upgradable externally. The way Apple's thinking about this is that they've created these amazing, super fast connectors, like Thunderbolt. Is this Thunderbolt 2? Do I just push this down? Is it aligned? Yes. I mean, maybe. The ports? Yeah, I mean, sort of. Okay. This is where I break the Mac Pro on live internet. That would be great. I mean, it's not, should I? What could possibly go wrong? It is Thunderbolt 2. Is it on? Maybe it's just on now. It's not plugged in. No, it's, I mean, is it, it's on. I didn't realize it. I was like trying to figure out what was going on. I was like trying to push it down further. I definitely want to be doing this as much as possible. That's Giffable. Anyhow, it's a beautiful, beautiful piece of machinery. And a fingerprint magnet. Well, yeah, but you don't touch your desktop. Yeah, but like you still get dust all over. You don't see it. Don't tell me what to do. Hey, you don't touch your desktop. No, you know, you're not going to be. That's how you go blind. You're not going to be laying hands on it. You know, you put it down, you plug it in and then you go. Yeah. You, you, you attack new vistas of entertainment and, and creativity and whatever else this lets you attack. That's all I have to say. So anyhow, we're going to have a review of this soon. And there's already a hands on some first impressions. We have, yeah, we have some first impressions of it up and some hands on photos and you can be sure I'm, I was actually talking about this with our team, but you know, I can't think of a better group of people to be road testing this than everybody here in the studio. And so, so our editors and our everybody on the video team at Fox and verge are going to put this through its paces. We were, I've already seen a bunch of the verge video people just kind of come up and put their projects on it and see how fast like they'll export and like, yeah, it's so far, it's really impressive. Is it really? Yeah. Oh boy. Oh boy. I don't have any need for, I don't have any need for this at all, but like as, as usual with a new product, I want it for no reason. And I don't think I'm going to buy one because the desktop computer just seems like completely insane to me. Well, here's the thing that kills me about this is that there is no Apple first party four case display to really show off like how pretty the output is. Like they gave us what they're selling on the online stores, a sharp. Well, they probably didn't want to an Apple store. Oh, and the online store. Yeah. Well, they probably didn't want, they probably didn't want to, you know, they didn't want to, they needed time to focus on their TV. They probably didn't want to put out a display that's separate from the Apple television, which is obviously coming very, very, I mean, it's probably like, we'd probably at this point they're probably just like, let's just do it. So the gene monster will stop talking about it. Right? They're like, like, you know what, at this point it just get it out there. Who cares if people buy it or not? We're Apple, we mint money. So anyhow, so, so this is exciting ish. I don't get that excited about desktop computers. I will openly admit, I will say this is very pretty. I do appreciate how slick this design is and how small it is for all it that it actually does. Yeah. It is small. It is small. Nowhere to put a DVD. That's for a blu-ray. It'd be cool if this was a slot. It feels like this could have been an actual, like if you look at it, if you look at this, I mean, it really does seem like they could have put a, there, hold on, let me get a little bit of the glare. Oh, nice. That would have been cool. They should have like exposed. You see the disc smidgen? Yeah. I definitely almost just dropped this. It's really heavy. I mean, not surprisingly, but it's very heavy. So this thing, this laptop, yes, the MacBook Air, right? Everybody, everybody was copying it. Changed everything. Do you think that other people are going to be copying this? I think HP is definitely going to copy it immediately. Yeah. I think people are going to copy it because that's what people do. You know, they copy, they copy everything. I would be very surprised if somebody, somebody didn't copy it. To be fair, like for desktops, this is a novel, but obviously we've, when we, this first came out, everyone said this is the Braun KF-20 coffee machine. This is not a unique industrial design. Well, this is clearly a homage to the Braun, the Dieter Rams designed Braun coffee machine. I would be very surprised. And I don't remember if there is a story that Steve Jobs and Johnny Ive bonded over this coffee machine. I don't know if it's the KF-20 or a different model. Can you, can somebody do a quick search and tell me that, that what, what it is I'm thinking of? Maybe they don't even, maybe the model number was not even mentioned. I want to say it was the KF-20. Does anybody know? I'm looking for something that isn't sourced out. If you know, if you're out there in cyberspace. Johnny Ive's secret coffee ritual. And you know, really? Really? And you know what I'm talking about. Feel free to tweet, feel free to tweet, just tweet towards us at, at Verge. Yeah. I'll keep an eye out for that. Or Josh Witzepolsky is fine as well. Remember when we- Or you can do Backlawn or Onorosco. I'm not going to name the site, but do you remember in the early two thousands when we defeated pop-up ads? Remember when that happened? Uh, when like pop-up ads were a thing and then we figured out, like we got it to stop. What do you mean pop-up ads? Like we open up like a new browser window and pop up and you'd have an ad in it. Every site does that. They do it now again. Yeah. They're not, but they just do it inside the site. Right. There was a time, there was a brief period from like, I don't know, 2008 to 2010 where like pop-up ads were gone and we regressed. There's a golden era. This site, which I will not name. I know what site you're looking at right now. Yes. I could name them. I'm not going to. Okay. So anyhow, MacPro, that's a story. There's nothing to really say about it right now because we're obviously in testing mode. We're not testing it right this second, but we will be in testing mode for the foreseeable future to deliver a review to you, the reader and or viewer. What else is in the news? God, I'm tired. What else is in the news? You want to just go ahead and talk about the Google robot stuff? Yeah. I have a question on that. Go ahead. No, you go ahead. No, you lead it. So Google bought Boston Dynamics, which makes the scariest freaking robots that you have ever seen. Yeah. We actually have a bunch of that footage too. Oh God, oh God, make it stop. Yeah. I mean, this is like, can you imagine anything more terrifying running towards you or even away from you? Like what is this thing supposed to be? I mean, is this designed to give people heart attacks? Is that the point of this robot? It's just awful. And also wonderful. Do we have any other Boston Dynamics? We have a couple. By the way, 17 miles, 18 miles an hour. Do you know how fast that is? It actually goes up to 28. Oh my God. So 25.7 inches is Usain Bolt's record. So this thing will outrun. Really? Yeah, but it has to be stabilized with that arm. True. Right. Oh my God. So if we can show a wild cat. I actually want to hear the audio for this because it's the scariest buzzing sound ever. Can we see the wild cat? Hold on. Oh my God. Poor guy. I'm going to show you a little bit of this thing right here. Oh God. Here it comes. Oh God. Oh God. When it stabilizes itself and then, oh, now I'm ready. Oh yeah. So now it just goes. Oh God. Oh my God, it looks happy. It has a personality that's definitely killer. Wait, I think he's going in the wrong direction. Is that the direction he is? Maybe he's backing up. But here's the thing, it looks like an actual animal there. Yeah. Uncanny. That is so uncanny. We've added some robots to our menagerie. Yeah. Oh my God. This reminds me of that robot at the end of Fahrenheit 451 that's chasing down everybody. Hey, spoiler alert. This makes me really sad. Can I just say this makes me sad? Like I feel like it's an animal, like a kind of an injured animal because it's moving so weirdly. Like, I don't know. I feel like I'm going to start crying. I feel bad for that robot. Why is that? Until it starts pointing like needles at me. I think. Yeah. Wait, so I think this is the part where like it just, it falls and puts itself back up. Oh no. Oh no. Don't fall. You can do it little camp. Don't fall buddy. Nope, nope. We're just getting slow motion. Okay, great. What else do we have? The last. So, well, no, but hang on. So Andy Rubin, he left Android. He's going to make actual robots now. Yes. They bought Boston Dynamics. They bought a bunch of other companies. Oh. What are they building? Like Adrian wrote a great report for us and talked to a bunch of people and like nobody's really sure. Right. The one thing I will say is there's a, there's a really interesting parallel. Make it stop. Metal Gear. Oh my God. Make it stop please. This is the worst. So rude. Ah, why'd he kick the guy? Cause he's showing how he stabilizes himself. Wait, wait. Which is insane and looks like a real animal. Don't kick that. It will kick back. Wow. Yeah. So, so, but there's a parallel between what Google did with driverless cars and what's happening here. Google starts funding a whole bunch of stuff, whole bunch of companies do DARPA challenges and making, you know, war machines or whatever. And then it becomes privatized at Google. They did it with driverless cars and now they're doing it again with robots. You think Google is just trying to stop the government from developing crazy technology? I don't know. I don't think that's the case. I don't think so. I don't know if I trust Google with it. I think, I think my guess would be they don't know what they're making yet. I mean, they must have some ideas. Okay. Let's think of things that Google could make with robots. Well, I mean, what type of things that they could use? Sorry. How would they commercialize it? I'm sorry. The things they would use robots for is what I mean. What is something that Google might do with a robot? Google Maps Street View. Like where can a human not go? Okay. Yeah. Robots walking around getting street view. Okay. That seems like they deploy some robots for that. How about somebody at the California Polytech said social robots that can help you inside your house. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's great. Haley Joel Osmond. I think we're thinking, or we're thinking maybe robots for the elderly or just people who are disabled in some way. That's a good, might be a good use of the robots. You know, I assume in factories and assembly lines there might be some reason to have more, more autonomous robot. Why is Google in that game? Maybe Google wants to make things in a factory. Yeah. Like phones. There you go. Like more, more robots. Maybe they want to make more robots. Robots that make robots. Yeah, exactly. What are some other things Google might do with a robot? What kind of businesses is Google in? Advertising. Sex bots. No, they're not in that business. Well, we don't know what any room is doing. He's been pulled up for a long time. Oh geez. Oh boy. Oh no. Here we go again. Oh, this is one too? Oh my God. Like, hey, we made a huge cockroach. How do you feel about this? So Google is going to space. This is like a baby, it's like a baby robot crawling. Now mark my words, this is the kind of thing that will street view map the moon after Google like buys a rocket company. Well that's, okay, there you go. Maybe they're going to, maybe they want to have a space explorer robots. Maybe they want to send robots into space. But why? What does Google get out of it? Is that a business for them? What is Google? I mean, what about robots that walk around with ads on them? Robots that have those boards that stand outside of businesses with the boards like two for one and hand out flyers. Yeah. I mean, it's an advertising. The guy that holds the subway sign is going to lose his job. It's an ad robot. Okay. All of Google's weird crap that they do, loon and I don't know. Everything makes sense to me is like, oh, well yeah, you care about internet except driverless cars. I'm not really clear on why other than maybe it's a huge investment opportunity and this. Yeah. I mean, maybe the, maybe the next smartphone is a helper robot. I think, I think there's some element of just blind hope because I think everyone's going to say like robots at some point, robotics are going to be the next big technological stuff. Even if you don't know how to commercialize it exactly. This stuff is now, right? I mean, imagine in five or 10 years if they really accelerate this stuff. I mean, I think that, that, and maybe by the way that is like, you know, Siri, the next evolution of Siri and your smartphone is a, is an assistant that walks around with you, like an actual physical thing that walks around with you. And it's like, you know, does things physically for you. This could definitely set up like a sequel to her, a new Spike Jonze film. Like first we have just the artificial intelligence and now we have the, the walking. Well he went in the, the direction that he went in was, was that we're, you know, instead of having these like physical, virtual, these physical presences, we're going to have virtual presences that we sort of imagine. Well now we can have a super sex bot that can climb. I don't know. I don't think they're going to make a sex bot. No. I mean, here's the problem. They have a long way to go to making like human shaped bots, right? That are actually able to get around. That's the, they're not making human size and human shaped bots. They are making disgusting, weird, horrendous, horrific animal bots. So sex bots. And we're back. Oh God. No. Okay. Seriously, do you, do you have any guesses? I don't. No. I don't. I really like genuinely don't know. I, I don't know. My imagination isn't big enough. The only guess that I have is that they are, they have a specific plan. Like this isn't just a lark. Like no way. No way. Is it going to make it all the way up there? Yeah. This is amazing. Oh my God. Yeah. So that's Amazon delivery right there. There you go. No, it's like when I think of the first thing I think of this is like, you know, helping like fight fires or like rescue situations. But that's not Google's business. Well, not yet. That's a public utility. Not yet. I mean, they start selling this stuff to the government. That's true. So yeah. And it's, it's going to be just fine. Totally fine. What's the, what's the, what is this thing? This is like a sentry bot. It's I think the, what do they call it? Sand flea is what they call this. What's he going to do here? You know what he's going to do. Just don't want to believe. What's he going to do? No way. No way. Oh, there we go. I could watch these all day. I have to say it is unbelievable. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you know, here's the thing. I think Google does invest in a lot of things that are just, they're just experimenting and they don't, they maybe don't have the answer. You know, I don't think it's clear. Do you think Andy Rubin is just like doing this for a hell of a bit? I feel like he has like a goal. I mean, what do you think it is? I don't know. That's why I'm thinking about it. What do we know about Andy Rubin? That his personal goal was just to play with robots. That was his hobby. That was his dream. Right. But did he have a step two? I mean, what is the step two monetization or like actualization of some other concept? I think they're going to, they're, they're pursuing a specific robotic goal to do something new. Now is this, is this standing on its own? I think, at least that's the goal. Yeah. God. If that's true, that's insane. Hey buddy. I mean, I guess we're starting to see, Hey, it's sober too. Look at that. Oh, so that's finally, that's something that no human can, they're really into abusing robots. That's the thing we know about. Yeah. I'm just waiting for them to realize what we're doing. I mean, maybe RoboCop is not as far off as we think, you know, maybe Google will deploy Sentry bots and protector bots and cop bots. Well that's actually, that's like the idea of prosthetics. So like imagine like this technology, you wouldn't do someone's prosthetic leg. It could actually like, you could control it in a much better way. You probably put like a gun on it too. You could also put a gun machine gun carry. Exactly. Those pops out and it's controlled with Google glass. Yeah, exactly. Um, all right. What else is in the news? What else is happening? We have no answers on the, I just like to say that we officially have zero answers at this point. Oh yeah. This one's great. This is exactly like the most horrific thing that I've ever thought of. Like, like, no, no, no, no. Put the suit back on him. Cause what I want to do is I want to picture that thing. Yeah. I want to picture that guy with the faithful face mask. Oh, don't do that. Quarantine war zone right here. Yeah. Like, well, Hey, why does the bot need a gas mask? Yeah. I'm sorry. You did. You, what did you engineer? The, you know, the robot actually dies if it breathes in dangerous gases. I, you don't like, what is the gas mask for? Just to scare me, I think is the answer. This seriously is upsetting. But I mean, and part of it is also how many big tech companies are looking at wearables and robotics right now? I think pretty much all of them in some extent. This is just, I mean, this is a little beyond, this is a beyond. This is a little beyond. Okay. That's fair. So this is now Andy Rubin is going to get to do whatever he wants with this thing. Is that correct? Yeah. Yes. Right. Cool. That's really encouraging. Bigger than a moonshot. All right. What else? What else? So Tim Cook, Marissa Meyer, Reed Hastings, Eric Schmidt, and Zingacy. What about, what about, what about? One of these things is not like the other. Went to meet with Obama to talk. He wanted, he wanted them, him to. He get Zuckerberg? Advice on, I think, yeah. No. They wanted advice on healthcare.gov and they showed up and they were like, yeah, we'd like to talk about the NSA. I think it was awkward. You think it was awkward? I'm pretty sure it was very awkward. No, but you think it was awkward with Zuckerberg and Pinkus in the room? No, that's what I'm saying. Oh yeah. Yeah. And so Pinkus apparently asked Obama or suggested to Obama that he pardon Edward Snowden. Because we're going to pardon Snowden based on Mark Pinkus's recommendation. You never know, man. Obama said he couldn't do that. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then, and then had him removed. It's like nobody asked him before. Can't he? He is president. I think he meant, I think what he meant, let me explain, Dieter. I think he meant that there were reasons that he would not do it. Not that he physically or like technically. I was having flashbacks to my childhood when I asked, can I, can I? And they, no, you mean may I? Well, at any rate. Yeah. Which is probably exactly how that conversation went. I think, I think, um, wait, that's Sheryl Sandberg. Yeah. Oh, maybe it was her instead of Zuckerberg. What is Pinkus, what is Pinkus doing at this table? It's a little odd. It's really odd. I don't see Zuck. There's no Zuck there. Yeah, it's Sheryl. It must be Sheryl, yeah. Yeah. This looks like a very uncomfortable conversation. To me, this looks like a horrifically uncomfortable conversation. Dramatically zooming in. Is this the moment right here where Pinkus says, why don't you pardon? He's like, Hey, I was down here at the end of the table drinking and I just thought, why not pardon? Anyhow, you know, here's the question. I mean, increasingly speaking of Snowden, increasingly it looks like people are saying, Hey, what Snowden did is not in the wrong. Yeah. So what's the, the, the Obama's, uh, uh, panel recommended that they, they, NSA doesn't keep phone records. Well, there's that. There was a, a judge, federal judge found that, uh, what was the term that he used? And we have a story on this. If only, if only we had a poll. Well, he's looking up. I mean, one thing is interesting as you get into that, um, TC just pointed out, um, that was right next to Obama at his left side was Randall Stevenson of AT&T, which is perfect. Earily appropriate. His left side or his right side? It was his left side. Biden on the right. Biden on the right. One is clearly more powerful than the other. One is sneakier. One is sneakier than the other. Um, but yeah, anyhow, the, the, the Snowden stuff, I mean, you know, I think everybody's a little fatigued at this point. Like the level of stuff that we're hearing, the level of privacy violations, but also just the story, Edward Snowden's story. It's like, you know, you can kind of only, um, here you go. Uh, that their phone record collection is unconstitutional. Yeah. I'm looking for like the, the judge was super harsh on them. I'm looking for like a, a quotable quote, but uh, Kander, yeah. I mean, let's just be clear, you know, that's not, that's not small potatoes. You know, we now have federal judges saying this, this, this, what the NSA has been doing is unconstitutional. Right. The line that the NSA likes to give is that collection is different from spying because we're, we're, we're taking it, we're collecting it, but we're not doing anything with it. So it's okay. Yeah. And I don't think a single person outside of that giant creepy black cube of a building where the NSA is believes that. Yeah. I think it's hard to, I was actually, I woke up the other day and I, and I thought, uh, I'm like, man, what if it just went away? What if it just, the NSA was like, you know, we're not going to do this anymore and we could just go back to living a normal life where we didn't have to think about this. They can say it. They can say it. I mean, I'm saying, what if they actually did it? You know, it's, it's almost impossible now to imagine a reality where you're not basically being spied on 24 seven. Right. And I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's because, I mean, look, you could get off of the internet, right? You can stop using the internet essentially. I don't know what your life would be like. We had someone try that. No, well, and they, and he succeeded. It's a very security. So still, he survived, he survived. It affected him. But he wasn't, but he wasn't sending emails, he wasn't making, you know, he wasn't talking to people on, on. But when he was, when he was asking questions and he was getting answers, he was getting answers from people who were connected. Like there at no point. Yeah, but I'm saying that's, that's the way to do it. Yeah. You got to go off the grid, man. Get Paul Miller style, you know, just get information from people around you. This is the judge who was appointed by Bush, by the way. I cannot imagine a more indiscriminate and arbitrary invasion. Those are both quotes from the law, then this systemic and high tech collection and retention of personal data. Of course, the public has no interest in saving the government from the burden of complying with the constitution. Like yeah, yeah. Just just rips into it. Eviscerated, I would say that. I mean, it is, and it is, you know, just like, look, Obama's talking to tech people, tech people are writing letters, federal judges are saying this is unconstitutional. Does do, is there any indication that any of this is actually going to stop? I don't know. No, I mean, the NSA could literally be like, yeah, we're going to stop and then just keep doing it. But right. I mean, it has to come at this point, it's going to have to come out of Congress. And I mean, that nothing's happened there for a while. What do we think about the BIOS plot? Oh, my other 60 minutes, 60 minutes. This is great 60 minutes report on, uh, on it felt like a South Park episode. Like it was a very weird, like, oh, there's a tech, it destroys your BIOS, your BIOS is alive, so your computer's alive. Right. But I didn't, the BIOS plot. Let's just throw an acronym that scares people. Here's the thing that I, here's the thing that I don't fully get. Uh, uh, the, the 60 minutes there, they suggested that the, the people, the, the nation state behind the attack was China. Yeah. Like I don't get China disabling everybody's computer in America unless it's like to launch world war three. Right. Because we are China's biggest consumer. They need us for their economy. Yeah. Right. And there's really no disconnecting these things at this point. Like China needs America to keep buying Chinese things and like they need to continue to take on American debt. And so, and they need to continue to buy up things that exist in America. And so the idea that they would want to bring down America by destroying everybody's computer seems, you know, pretty funny. Also there are plenty of computers that don't have, I mean, I don't know if they meant like not all computers are the same basically. I mean, I don't know if there was a specific type of computer they're talking about or they may have, it was like just a blanket, like all bios everywhere was affected. The idea that there can be a virus that can blow up your bios and like the thing that makes your computer boot is not new or fresh. So like, yeah, if it's theoretically possible that China has developed a thing to like blow up a whole lot of bios and a whole lot of computers, one, they wouldn't do that too. Why is the NSA trotting this thing out that like we kind of already know about and isn't that a threat? FUD. FUD. Exactly. And the NSA gets, derives their power from the fear of the American citizenry feeling like they need to do, the NSA needs to do whatever the NSA wants to do to protect us from some kind of phantom attack. And like last year it was terrorism and this, and now it's like the Chinese want to like destroy our computers and there's always going to be a new enemy for America. That seems pretty clear, you know, it's like, it's just a matter of, of this like lulls in between where we, where we toy with several enemies. It's just so surprising to me that as sophisticated as the system is supposed to be, they did not invest anywhere near as much money into like figuring out how to defend this should it ever come out in public. Right. Like they're completely surprised and kind of caught off guard. You've seen the PowerPoints. These aren't, I mean, I don't, I don't. Smiley faces on them for God's sake. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't think that there's a lot of deep thought going into what they're doing. I mean, I actually don't, I don't think they're like, my God, we're taking all of these private phone records. Like this is a major constitutional violation. I think they're just like, Hey, we can do this. Let's just do it. Yeah. And not think about what the consequences are and not think about what the ramifications are because they just are on a mission. You know, their mission is to collect information. No, they, they, they think about the consequences, ramifications. They think about it very carefully. They think about where is the line and how can we push it and how can we use the language of the current law, most of which is very much outdated in order to push it. Right. But I don't feel like they've gone to great lengths to be, to be, they've been sneaking the sense that people don't have access to their internal documents, but it doesn't seem like they've gone to great lengths to cover this up or defend it. I mean, you know what I mean? Like it's, it's not, they don't have great answers, you know, their answers are vague. You know, they, they lied to Congress. I'd call that going to great lengths to defend it. I mean, I'd call it sloppy. Yeah. I'd call it sloppy. They, if they actually went to great lengths, they'd say, listen, here's the structure of the law. We've abided by it every, at every step of the way. Like this is what the law allows and this is what we're doing. And there are, there would be no necessity to lie because you could demonstrate that your methods were sound. They do that, but they, they do it in such a fuzzy way. And they they're, there's so little evidence of benefit to us as citizens that they, they trot out, Oh, we've defended you against, you know, so many attacks. And then you look at that number and then it's actually a smaller number when you really dig into it. And then you go on top of that when you dig in more. So I just, something needs, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of companies and a lot of countries and a lot of Americans that like want this to turn around right now. Yeah. And it hasn't yet. And I got straight up, like the next thing, way to fix this is to vote different people into Congress so that they will do it for us. Right. Well, that's where we're at. That may or may not solve it. I mean, and the thing is like, that's one of like three steps that must happen in an exact order. Well, if, if we've got, it's possible more federal judges will start overturning stuff and change things, but I don't have a lot of confidence there either. Right. So then what, what are we going to do? Just always be spied on? Pull up Paul Miller, go offline. I mean, is there, is there any alternatives to the, to like, I mean, there is no real protection like there is no real way to protect. And let's not forget like, you know, we, we may be the most sophisticated country doing this. We may not be. We got caught doing it. That's the thing that's great. Yeah. I mean, maybe we just need to accept that, you know, it's all just going to be out there and people are going to be reading your stuff and, you know, just try not to break the law basically. I mean, there are people trying to. That's a lot of faith. I'm not making that argument by the way. I think that's insane. I think it's an insane way to live. But you know that, I think that's like how the government would kind of like, I think that's what the NSA would ultimately prefer. If everybody just said, you know what, I'll just, I won't break the law and then I don't care if you read my stuff. You know, you're just some anonymous person. It's not like you're just checking out your ex-girlfriend's information using the systems that you have at hand. Oh wait, they were actually doing that. So it is like at the end of the day, it's on a computer. Like I'm more comfortable with Google with being screwed gold. Okay. It's like an algorithm showing me ads because they saw words in my, in my, they said words that are just basically chunks of data versus, you know, the government, a completely, you know, a government that has zero oversight and horrible track record in terms of what it will tell its citizens and being truthful with its citizens. I'd much rather have Google's robots, not actual, not zero robots, but it's, I'd rather have its spiders crawl my shit than have the NSA do it. I mean, in both cases, this is an example of like laws and bureaucracy being outpaced by technology. At no point, at no point do we think there's a law that was needed at a time when this would have been crucial. For other Google, like regulating robots and drones or like regulating the privacy and connections like our laws are wholly outdated for things like that. Yeah. Well we don't, there's no conception of things like, like drones and you know, autonomous robots and. And I think was it Clay Shurie had a good example, like just because the law wasn't ready for technology doesn't mean we should be afraid of the technology or afraid of the laws. It's just, that's always how it's going to be happening. We can't prepare for these things. The other thing I want to promote is a TC's big report. He did this great editorial about Obama's legacy and these two polar, not polar opposite, like seemingly polar opposite issues of like too much red tape, not enough red tape with the healthcare issue and with the NSA. Yeah. And I think his premise is really interesting. We should take the red tape from healthcare.gov and move it over to the NSA. Yeah. I wake up dreaming that Keith Alexander took over healthcare and Kathleen Sebelius took over the NSA. Yeah. We should put those contractors. Just swap the chairs. Yeah. There you go. Everyone has everybody's problems. I think there's, I think there's a. They already know your preexisting conditions. I think there's a fair amount of buffoonery on both sides really. I mean when you look at it. Oh yeah. But it is an interesting question. You know, he. Speaking of buffoonery. I mean Bush's legacy is pretty obvious at this point. You know, you think about like war and war on terror basically. And the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence of whatever. Of course, of course. You know, what happens to mass destruction that were never found that we were lied to about. What will, you know, you start to think like this does seem to be kind of defining factors. I mean obviously Obamacare, but what overshadows Obamacare is the failure of the, of its, of its launch. You know, like. And then, and then the NSA stuff is clearly, you know, the funny thing is though I just don't know how much real people care about the NSA spying. Like my impression is they don't. My impression is they either don't know about it. And if they do know about it and when they find out about it, they're like, well, I don't really have anything to hide. And I think you would be, I think if you went out on the street right now and talked to most people, that's what they would tell you. And the other thing I say is like, they would say, you know, I think it's a big deal, but I'm so tired of hearing about it. It's like the flood of information is both necessary and also somewhat like, you know, well, even if you could explain it all very clearly in one simple way, it's still what can you, you can't do anything with the information. You can get angry, but you can't take your anger anywhere. Even if every citizen in America signed a petition saying, I won't stand for this, that doesn't mean it will affect any change. You know, it needs, there need to be lobbying groups. There need to be politicians. There need to be judges and lawyers who are invested in this, who are going to go make the changes. And there are, those things do exist. But you know, our government is extremely bureaucratic and slow moving. And so the idea that this will be changed anytime in the near future seems impossible. And also, you know, it does kind of feel like Obama who came in on this like wave of hope and excitement and like, we're going to have a totally different, more transparent government and we're going to, you know, a guy we really like is in the White House. It turns out it's, you know, a very similar government to the one that we've always had or at least had for the last 40 years. All the news this week, this depressing. It's very, it's a downer. It's a downer. There is one thing that was not depressing. Hold up. It may not be exactly verge related. What is it? On Friday the 13th, Beyonce. Oh Beyonce. Have we not thought it up? Beyonce. 1313. Yeah. Yes. So Beyonce released a series of, of incredible songs, videos. 14 audio, 17 videos. Never leaked. Which is amazing. We heard, okay. Yes and no. This is me knowing way too much. So she has performed one of the songs before live. A few things leaked because a lot of these were filmed in public. A lot of them in New York and East Village too. But no one had any idea this was happening. In fact, the last rumor was that she had completely scrapped the album altogether. But planted, planted obviously. Very. But from the music business standpoint, this dropped with no promotion. Full album. You cannot buy it by a track. Audio and video, everything comes together and the physical release isn't even coming out until the 20th. Yeah. And it's, and it's like crazy, sold like crazy. Yeah. Five million? Well maybe by now, 800,000 the first three days. Which is the fastest selling iTunes album ever. Yeah, which is crazy. It topped Katy Perry and Lady Gaga sales combined. Yeah. Wow. What's interesting about it is, what's interesting about it is like it goes against all of the, here's the deal. When you've got enough star power, you can fly in the face of like all of the, all of the modern notions about how we should sell and listen to music. Like if you're a mid-level or low-level artist who has, you know, if you're not Beyonce, let's put it that way, you probably can't get away with doing this. Like you can release your record, your hardcore fans will buy it. Yeah. There will be zero hype about it. Nobody will tweet about it. No one will know about it. Like a small group of people. And then like your album will be done. You know, you can't get away with it. If you're Beyonce, you can definitely pull this, which is, which is you're the biggest celebrity in the world and you have a surprise record. And so everybody's going to freak out and be curious and there's going to be an enormous amount of hype. I mean the whole day following that, that evening into the next day through the, through the next evening, it was just like bedlam about, it was beyond, it's like two days straight, maybe three days straight of like, I felt like everywhere I turned, the only conversation anybody was having was Beyonce. And this is also like, this is a weird time because this is after the Grammy nominations have been announced for the year. Like this is post award season for the music industry. But it is pre, it is pre-holiday shopping season. I mean this is, this is the time when, when big albums drop. Like in the music industry, they'll say like, if you're going to release a record, you basically, you are big enough that you release it around Christmas. Or you avoid releasing a record on Christmas because that's when all of the gigantic artists release their album. And the physical albums come out four days before Christmas, but not at Target. Not at Target. Target is very mad about this. Target boycotted Beyonce because she sold exclusively in iTunes. That's the story, right? Yeah. That's insane, you know? Which it was also the opposite of what happened in her last album. Her album four was, they had Target exclusive video and packaging and rapping. Like there was a close relationship and this just obviously pissed them off to no end. Clearly that relationship is soured. Yeah. I mean, I think what's most impressive is that just the level, I mean the level of general secrecy about this. Like you didn't see the music press really writing about it. You didn't hear, oh, this album is going to leak or there's rumors there's going to be. And it didn't leak. That's the other thing. No. That's what amazes me is I like that doesn't happen much anymore. No. Well, I mean Beyonce is very powerful. Yeah. She's also married to Jay Z. And by the way, that couple has had, Jay Z also had a very interesting experiment with music industry. Oh yeah. Samsung. His Samsung album. Just. It was a- What is it? Magna Carta Holy Grail? Magna Carta Holy Grail. You forget, you know, you forget that record happened, but I don't know. I'm not a big Jay Z fan. Jay Z himself like ranked it like seventh or eighth on his like discography. I agree with him. Yeah. I'm going to have to agree with Jay on that one. But this Beyonce record. Now I frankly have not listened to the whole thing, so I don't want to speak out of turn, but everybody says I've heard a few songs and they're good. Everybody says it's incredible. It's very raunchy. She's very, she's into making love. Oh yeah. No, no, it's not. She's a baby. Proof that she's into making love. She's like, look, I've had everything else and no one's going to care. So let's just do a song about oral sex. Well Trent did. Trent did a review sort of review and look into her record and he does talk a lot about the, sorry I was just checking the time. He looked at his watch and I looked at my watch. It's smart watch now. It's the, my pants are like vibrating. Whoa, hang on. Speaking of sex, speaking of sexy stuff, Ross's pants are vibrating. Unrelated, unrelated to the new Beyonce record. Completely unrelated. This is disgusting and upsetting. This is so wrong. What were we talking about? Oh yeah. Well, so anyhow, but Trent made a point that Rihanna and other popular, you know, Miley Cyrus, other popular pop stars have become increasingly sexy. You know, I mean, Lady Gaga, what's her new song? It's a do what you want to my body. With R. Kelly. With R. Kelly. And you know, R. Kelly is going to do something to her body that it will be like, you'll find a way to do something illegal and inappropriate. Yes. But, you know, I think like, you know, you look at the record, I mean, sex sells. Beyonce is clearly aware that sex sells and you know, she's extremely beautiful and like, you know, why not? Why not? I'll tell you why not. Have some respect for yourself. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Jeez. Okay. This is, do we don't have to shut up? Yeah, we're just going very, very. No, but now we're, I love the footage. Keep writing the B roll. You want to hear me talking about how sexy Beyonce is while we see footage of a scantily clad Beyonce being sexy. This would be the Drunk in Love video. Wow. Wow. This is, this is intense. This is, I have not seen all the videos. This is what $17 gets you. This is the future of the urge cast actually. Yeah, it's just Beyonce. Beyonce and we talk about it while she dances. But anyhow, have you, did you buy the album? Not yet. Lisa did not buy it? No. You? Of course I did. Yeah. I mean, I will. I mean, it's iTunes. We need our own accounts and it's got to work on our phones. Sure. Can you, can you, now can you share this? This is, you have like, you can, you can. I don't think we have a family account. I don't know how that works actually. I guess you can't unless you're streaming off of a single computer or something. Right. Yeah. I have not bought it. Really? No, but I've heard several and seen several videos from it. I just, to be honest with you, I need to set aside time to experience all of Beyonce. Right. See, I knew that if I did not buy day one and know it by the end of day one, I would not have a relationship anymore. So that was my, that was my impetus for doing this. Is that, is that really what happened? It just, you know, it's a threat thereof. Is that the kind of situation you've got? You need to be. Just to be safe. Completely aware of the Beyonce catalog at all times. Absolutely. Can we talk about the, can we talk about a couple of things? Yes. Yes, absolutely. So first off, we should, can we talk about this ad? Yeah, we've had this the whole time. So Motorola ran this ad. This will save print. This is a print ad that's running in Wired. It's running in here. Do you want me to? Yeah, I think Billy's running in to help us out with this. So hold on. I don't know if you guys have seen this. Did we write about this? Did we not write about this? We did. Oh yeah, we did. We did. So check it out. This is a print ad that is running. Let me find the best angle. Hold on. Nope. That's not the best angle. Nope. That's not the best angle. I'm trying to get the glare off. And also Billy, oh boy. Okay. Anyhow, this is good enough. So this is an ad that's running in Wired and a bunch of other magazines. It is insane. Okay. Hold on. Let me check some, do some other colors here. So how do they pull this off? So obviously there's lights in here. Yeah. And you can actually, if you look in the back, you can see the strip of lights right there shining upwards. Oh yeah. But it's, I mean, but look at some of these, the colors they get out of this is, it's kind of insane. And I got to say it's easily one of the, is this the right color? Hold on. It's a, I think we might've broken it a little bit from using it so much. Really like pink. But this is, yeah, this is one of the craziest ads. Look at these in particular. Hold on. I mean, that's pretty good. It's really weird. Yeah. Like it's incredible that they did this. And I got to say they might've spent all of the remaining money they had on the budget to advertise this phone on this ad, but it was worth it. Well, do you remember about five years back the Esquire e-ink magazine cover that had done some really crazy things too? Yeah. That never went anywhere else. But also, and also there was the one with the phone in it. Remember, remember there was an ad. It was in, oh yeah. Who did the ad? It was had a phone embedded in the ad and it could get like text messages. Entertainment Weekly had it. There really is a smartphone inside Entertainment Weekly magazine. Yeah. I know Mashable wrote about it. I think we might've done something. Actually, I think, I don't remember if that was during, was that during this is my next days? October, 2012? No, we should have been up and running. No, we were in existence. Yeah. We existed. We launched November, 2011. That's right. Oh, this is right before. Okay. No, I mean it's. It's a year after our launch. Oh, right, right. I don't remember time anymore. I'm sure we covered it. We wrote about it. Anyhow, this is, I got to say, there's really nothing to say about this except that it is awesome. As far as ads go, print ads, it's like next level. Yeah. And the bamboo one is available now for a hundred bucks. Oh yeah, the bamboo back is available. It makes me so sad. The Moto X sales figures that came out, I want this to do so well. Yeah. It's a good phone. It's not doing that well at all. It's a good phone. It isn't making the kind of splash that I think they hoped it would make. So I also want to talk about another phone. I bought an Xperia Z1 from an Unlocked. In case you're wondering, if you're on AT&T, the model number you want to get LTE. Oh, you've got a, okay. Yeah. Is C6906. There's a bunch of variations of the Z1. Anyhow, I bought the Z1 and I'm pretty impressed. Really? Wait, this is not the Google Play Edition Z. No, no. This is the Z1 Ultra, which is like this big. This is the Xperia Z1 and it has some annoying Sony tweaks, but they're relatively minimal. And some of them are actually improvements on Google, frankly. So it shows you, it has built in battery percentage in the status bar. It has built in, so the way Google does its quick settings is that there's a secondary dropdown, that you have to access with two finger swipes or a swipe on the right side on tablets. This actually has quick toggles sort of built into the top row of the, oh, you can see it here. Those top row quick toggles. Did you see my password? Did everybody just see my password? Yeah. Those top row quick toggles are either amazing or terrible. Yeah. So, wait, hold on. Let me clear these. There's no telling what's in there, but you can see that there's at the top of the, see there's that nice little control. And they're actually way more useful than what Google provides. Just cut to the chase, how's the camera? The camera's amazing. Really? The camera's really good. And it actually, with a little bit of, it has a little bit of a learning curve because it does function more like a real camera. I actually think it's really good. And I'll say that I feel that the photos I'm taking are not only really good, but I think they're better than iPhone. So when you say they're better than iPhone, you're saying- Yeah. I think they're less saturated. Okay. I think that there's a quality to them that's different, but they feel more like camera photos to me. Is it like a Lumia 1020 situation where you kind of need to know what you're doing in order to get that? I mean, not as much as the 1020. The 1020 is weirdly overly complicated and kind of slow, and it doesn't really work. It's not enough like a phone camera. This is the kind of the right mixture. And I have an, the software's not updated. This is on 4.2. And Evan, who also has one, who- And is taking pictures of us right now. He's taking pictures of us. For the control room. Yeah. He has four, three. It's been updated and I guess it's rolling out now. Okay. But I got to say, I'm really impressed with the camera. I've been looking for an Android phone that actually has a great camera. And I think that this is maybe the first one where it's like really competitive, if not a bit better than the iPhone. In some instances, in my experience, I've only had it for a few days, so I'm still testing. Here's some other nice things about this that I was impressed to discover, surprised to discover or that I would care about. It's waterproof, which I don't care about at all, except for the fact that I was walking around in the snow the other day with this and I took it out and started using it. And I wasn't like, oh my God, I'm going to get water on my phone, which was kind of nice. That's something that most companies don't worry about. I don't have to think about it anymore. You didn't have to worry about it when it was in the snow or it rains. Right. That's a care I don't want to have. It's actually the kind of thing that is, I think I mentioned this when I was like, here's things they could do for the iPhone that would be really cool. The other thing is the battery life is kind of outrageous. In my third day of using it, I had, when I was, I had to use it for like 15 hours straight and I had some like long phone calls. I was like really using the phone and it said that my battery percentage was like 25 or 26% remaining. So like more than a day basically, like more than a workday. That is really important. Why can't Sony get it right selling these things in the US? Like they, we reported back in October. They need enormous. It was too much work to market here. They need an enormous marketing budget. They need enormous marketing budget and they need buy in from all of the carriers in a big way. Samsung has, here's Samsung's thing. They have enormous marketing budgets, like out of control. I mean, look at how much they're advertising. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's almost like brute force. They're basically like forcing you to understand that Samsung devices exist and they have done a lot of, I mean, I think carriers see it as an easy win. People now know the Samsung brand. They come in the store, they're like, I want the Galaxy. The only thing stopping, I mean, Motorola is trying to do with the Moto X. I don't think they have nearly the budget to do it. No. Also, I don't think they have the phone. I mean. They're being creative, but like they're not brute forcing it like Samsung does. Right. And also Motorola's like they have one device, flagship device. Samsung has the flagship S4 and then 40 other phones, different various sizes and markets. Right. So I think that, I think that it just requires, I mean, actually. I'm sorry. I have to break this train of thought. Is the software skin really good? Cause Sony used to be terrible. So I've disabled everything that's like pretty much everything that Sony is specific. You can do this. The user customizer, they're not hacking anything. I'm not hacking anything. I, well, I did install, Evan had the KitKat launcher, which was like the stock launcher. You can get versions of it in that play store, but I wanted the like pure one and he has the actual like pure APK, which you can just install. You can just get it, sideload it and install it. It's not a hack at all. So after going to the KitKat launcher, most of the stuff that's annoying is gone. There's a couple of things like, you know, they've reskinned the contacts app and the dialer. Yeah. Very minor, very minor. Like it's completely inoffensive, like not an issue. They have this thing on the multitasking menu, which I'm surprised to say I actually think is kind of cool. They have these like mini apps that float over top of things. They've got like a calculator, a timer, a voice recorder and a couple of other little things and I've used them. I will tell you, like I've opened it up to like open the calculator and I'm like, oh, there's a calculator right here. I'll just open it up and do the quick calculation and close the thing. So not terribly offensive. They've, you know, reskin menu, like the, the, the settings menus are different. They've added some personalization options. Like, you know, they made it a little bit harder to, you know, for some reason changing your lock screen image, you don't change your background and lock screen image together. You do them as separate things, which seems weird to me, but I'm largely, I mean at four two, what's really surprising to me, and I was just saying to this to Neelai the other day, what's really surprising is that at 4.2 and I think beyond the differences are negligible because once you kind of disable the stuff you don't like, like I'm not going to use the Walkman app for music because I listened to RDO and Spotify and I use Google play music. Uh, the, the, once you disable that stuff, the fact that Google is just has basically separated all of its apps out as standalones, you know, Gmail and Google drive. Now they have this photos app which ties into Google plus I, I auto upload all my photos. I don't, I don't love it. I don't love it. But what it, what's nice about it is that it feels integrated with the rest of the Google ecosystem. So they have a, they have a, uh, an album here that you can't disable. It's like they've replaced the gallery app with their own gallery app. I suppose I could download the stock gallery app. I mean they have them on the store, but um, it, it, it's fine, but you can plug into photos using the Google plus stuff and switch. I do anyhow. So like honestly the feeling is not, I've been using a Nexus five. I went to this, I'm still in the next five. I'm going to, I'm about to switch to the iPhone after my crazy Twitter rant. Like I just, I can't, there's no dramatic. What's your issue with the camera? The camera? No, Twitter rant. No, I'm like, oh, but the app. Yeah. That's where I'm at. I'm like, what's the fix is how bad the Twitter update is. We did this last week. Basically what I'm saying is, uh, it is surprisingly the same for the most part. Yeah. I mean the vast majority of things I'm doing, I mean I think Google hit a point where the people who are skinning, I mean this is not Samsung level skin. Everything does not look different. It's got some stuff that looks different. They made some weird changes. I don't really understand. For instance, they have a different icon for the sound off, like a different, well the stock sound off icon is so ugly. No, it's just, it's completely innocuous. I mean, it's horrible. Totally. It's totally innocuous. First thing I would change. Really? Yeah. Are you joking? Yes. I'm totally joking. I couldn't tell if you were kidding or not because I just thought it was weird. Like you're going to, like they changed the home. They changed the home back and multitask button. I just don't know why they're, they're so innocuous and meaningless. Overall, you know, and like the stuff they added doesn't fit in any better in my opinion. I love this is all, I love this part of the verge cast when Billy has to turn on this TV again because they'd go into sleep. Very nice job, Billy. Excellent work. And then, you know, actually on that note, like I think we have to wrap up because I, unfortunately we started late and we're ending early because I have to go to a meeting. There's one thing we need to note though. Next week is Christmas, obviously. Next week is Xmas. And the studio is shut down. Right. And the week after we're flying out to CES. CES. Oh yeah. That's probably the last one. Is this the last verge cast of the year? For the studio at least? Uh, yes. Is it really? I mean, studio is shut down next week. What? Really? And then we fly out for CES. Well, you're saying we don't have a verge cast between now and CES? We might. That doesn't sound right to me. We won't have it here though. We won't have it here. Where will it be? You can have one on the second for sure. Where would we be on the second? I don't know. That seems like a long time. Okay. You know what? Let's not get hung up on this. Don't worry about it. We're going to be here for you. We're not going anywhere. We're going to have an enormous amount of coverage, we have all kinds of crazy stuff planned. We're going to have a bigger, better, nastier studio there, which we're very excited about. And of course we're going to be doing a bunch of video shows, but the verge cast will be one of them. And we'll be doing essentially a week of verge casts. Every day. Every night, drunkenly verge casting for your pleasure. We promise the drunk part. Definitely. And it's going to be very exciting. So yeah, so this is our, you know, actually we should have done something. Garland or mistletoe so we could kiss each other or, you know, lower mistletoe. We could hold the Mac Pro. Lower mistletoe. The Mac Pro? Does anybody know what lower mistletoe is? No. It's mistletoe for other stuff. You know what I mean? Oh. Somebody in the control room. Who was that speaking? That would probably be our sound guy, Will. That's right. On your junk. They can't hear you, but junk was mentioned. Anyhow, the point is we were not very festive in here and that's kind of disappointing. Okay. So that, I guess that's where you're wrapping up then. Yeah. But yeah, we see us is coming and more verge cast, a lot more verge cast is coming. Unfortunately for you unlucky people out there in cyberspace, but bringing cyberspace back. More better and happy news. More better. More better. And happy news. And coherent speaking. More news. You're saying more happy news. More happy news. We make words good future. Yeah. Anyhow, that's the verge cast for this week. And you know what a verge cast it was. It was, it was, it had its moments. It was definitely a verge cast. It was a, it was, it was a verge cast. Yes it was. I don't think any of us feel that. I don't think any of us feel like we did gave a hundred percent here today. Do we? I feel like I was at like 75 maybe. It's like four or five days till Christmas. Yeah. I'm, I'm ready to, I'm ready to just jam on some eggnog. Okay. Get a candy cane out. Some lower mistletoe. I am going to murder a gingerbread house. Jam on some eggnog. Get some Bing, some Bing Crosby. I'm getting flattered everywhere. Get Bing up, get Bing up on my Xbox one. Get some Bing Crosby on the, on the, uh, Bing, Bing Crosby. Bing on a Bing, Bing Crosby. And then get him going on the stereo system and uh, get my Santa, get my Santa suit on. Xbox jingle my bells. I think Will just said that. That's the lower mistletoe. Hockey mask, hockey mask. Yeah, yeah. Santa suit. Right. No bottoms. No eggnog. Lower mistletoe. That's been me for the next week. There you go. Flutter shop challenge. Yeah. And that's the Vergecast for this week. Uh, as always, you can get in touch with us by, uh, uh, sending us an email at Vergecast at the verge.com. You can leave a comment in the post when it goes up. You can start a thread on the forums, forum on our, in our forums. You know what I'm saying? You know what this week needs to end. Um, you can, you can also find us on, on Twitter. Uh, now publicly traded Twitter. Verge is at verge. I'm Joshua Topolsky, uh, uh, uh, I was going to say Neely. That's how out of it I am. You're not Neely. Uh, uh, Deter is back lawn. Ross is Oh no, Ross go no E on the end. And uh, and uh, did I say I'm Joshua Topolsky? You did. You did. That's, there's something wrong and I'm not drinking. You guys are drinking. Rock and roll. And that's, and that's it. And, and as we go into, hold on a second. And as we go into the holidays, as we go into a time for reflecting on what you've done this year and who you've done it to and your family and your family's wellbeing, I think we can all agree. You've got a lot to worry about. | [
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"text": " Here's some, the, where the RAM, wait, actually these are, what are these?"
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"text": " RAMs must be, I sound like an idiot."
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"text": " Move my glass?"
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"text": " Or did I just go, did I go 360 degrees?"
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"text": " Is this Thunderbolt 2?"
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"text": " Do I just push this down?"
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"text": " Is it on?"
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"text": " You, you, you attack new vistas of entertainment and, and creativity and whatever else this"
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " And you know what I'm talking about."
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"text": " Feel free to tweet, feel free to tweet, just tweet towards us at, at Verge."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I'll keep an eye out for that."
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"text": " Or Josh Witzepolsky is fine as well."
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"text": " Or you can do Backlawn or Onorosco."
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"text": " I'm not going to name the site, but do you remember in the early two thousands when we"
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"text": " Remember when that happened?"
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"text": " Uh, when like pop-up ads were a thing and then we figured out, like we got it to stop."
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"text": " What do you mean pop-up ads?"
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"text": " Like we open up like a new browser window and pop up and you'd have an ad in it."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " They're not, but they just do it inside the site."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " There's a golden era."
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"text": " I could name them."
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"text": " So anyhow, MacPro, that's a story."
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"text": " There's nothing to really say about it right now because we're obviously in testing mode."
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"text": " We're not testing it right this second, but we will be in testing mode for the foreseeable"
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"text": " future to deliver a review to you, the reader and or viewer."
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"text": " What else is in the news?"
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"text": " God, I'm tired."
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"text": " What else is in the news?"
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"text": " You want to just go ahead and talk about the Google robot stuff?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I have a question on that."
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"text": " Go ahead."
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"text": " No, you go ahead."
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"text": " No, you lead it."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " We actually have a bunch of that footage too."
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"text": " Oh God, oh God, make it stop."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I mean, this is like, can you imagine anything more terrifying running towards you or even"
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"text": " away from you?"
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"text": " Like what is this thing supposed to be?"
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"text": " I mean, is this designed to give people heart attacks?"
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"text": " Is that the point of this robot?"
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"text": " It's just awful."
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"text": " And also wonderful."
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"text": " Do we have any other Boston Dynamics?"
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"text": " We have a couple."
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"text": " By the way, 17 miles, 18 miles an hour."
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"text": " Do you know how fast that is?"
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"text": " It actually goes up to 28."
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"text": " Oh my God."
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"text": " So 25.7 inches is Usain Bolt's record."
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"text": " So this thing will outrun."
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " Yeah, but it has to be stabilized with that arm."
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{
"start": 670.52,
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"text": " True."
},
{
"start": 671.52,
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"text": " Right."
},
{
"start": 672.52,
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"text": " Oh my God."
},
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"start": 673.52,
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"text": " So if we can show a wild cat."
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"text": " I actually want to hear the audio for this because it's the scariest buzzing sound ever."
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"start": 680.88,
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"text": " Hold on."
},
{
"start": 681.88,
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"text": " Oh my God."
},
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"start": 682.88,
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"text": " Poor guy."
},
{
"start": 683.88,
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"text": " I'm going to show you a little bit of this thing right here."
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"start": 686.88,
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"text": " Oh God."
},
{
"start": 689.88,
"end": 692.88,
"text": " Here it comes."
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"start": 692.88,
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"text": " Oh God."
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"text": " Oh God."
},
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"start": 696.88,
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"text": " When it stabilizes itself and then, oh, now I'm ready."
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"start": 699.88,
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"text": " Oh yeah."
},
{
"start": 700.88,
"end": 701.88,
"text": " So now it just goes."
},
{
"start": 701.88,
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"text": " Oh God."
},
{
"start": 702.88,
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"text": " Oh my God, it looks happy."
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"text": " It has a personality that's definitely killer."
},
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"start": 704.88,
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"text": " Wait, I think he's going in the wrong direction."
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"start": 705.88,
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"text": " Is that the direction he is?"
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"start": 706.88,
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"text": " Maybe he's backing up."
},
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"start": 707.88,
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"text": " But here's the thing, it looks like an actual animal there."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Uncanny."
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"text": " That is so uncanny."
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"text": " We've added some robots to our menagerie."
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"start": 716.88,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " Oh my God."
},
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"text": " This reminds me of that robot at the end of Fahrenheit 451 that's chasing down everybody."
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"start": 722.88,
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"text": " Hey, spoiler alert."
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"text": " This makes me really sad."
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"text": " Can I just say this makes me sad?"
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"text": " Like I feel like it's an animal, like a kind of an injured animal because it's moving so"
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"text": " weirdly."
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"text": " Like, I don't know."
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"text": " I feel like I'm going to start crying."
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"text": " I feel bad for that robot."
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"text": " Why is that?"
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"text": " Until it starts pointing like needles at me."
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"text": " I think."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"start": 740.88,
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"text": " Wait, so I think this is the part where like it just, it falls and puts itself back up."
},
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"text": " Oh no."
},
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"text": " Oh no."
},
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"text": " Don't fall."
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"text": " You can do it little camp."
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{
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"text": " Don't fall buddy."
},
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"start": 750.88,
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"text": " Nope, nope."
},
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"text": " We're just getting slow motion."
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{
"start": 752.88,
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"text": " Okay, great."
},
{
"start": 753.88,
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"text": " What else do we have?"
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"start": 754.88,
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"text": " The last."
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{
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"text": " So, well, no, but hang on."
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"start": 756.88,
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"text": " So Andy Rubin, he left Android."
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"text": " He's going to make actual robots now."
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"start": 758.88,
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " They bought Boston Dynamics."
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"text": " They bought a bunch of other companies."
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"text": " Oh."
},
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"text": " What are they building?"
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"start": 766,
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"text": " Like Adrian wrote a great report for us and talked to a bunch of people and like nobody's"
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " The one thing I will say is there's a, there's a really interesting parallel."
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"text": " Make it stop."
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"text": " Metal Gear."
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"text": " Oh my God."
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"text": " Make it stop please."
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"text": " This is the worst."
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"text": " So rude."
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"text": " Ah, why'd he kick the guy?"
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"text": " Cause he's showing how he stabilizes himself."
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"text": " Wait, wait."
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"text": " Which is insane and looks like a real animal."
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"text": " Don't kick that."
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"text": " It will kick back."
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"text": " Wow."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " So, so, but there's a parallel between what Google did with driverless cars and what's"
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"text": " happening here."
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"text": " Google starts funding a whole bunch of stuff, whole bunch of companies do DARPA challenges"
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"text": " You think Google is just trying to stop the government from developing crazy technology?"
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " Well, I mean, what type of things that they could use?"
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"text": " Sorry."
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"text": " How would they commercialize it?"
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"text": " The things they would use robots for is what I mean."
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"text": " Google Maps Street View."
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"text": " Like where can a human not go?"
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Robots walking around getting street view."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " That seems like they deploy some robots for that."
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"text": " How about somebody at the California Polytech said social robots that can help you inside"
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"text": " your house."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " That's great."
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"text": " Haley Joel Osmond."
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"text": " Why is Google in that game?"
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"text": " Maybe Google wants to make things in a factory."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Like phones."
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"text": " There you go."
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"text": " Like more, more robots."
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"text": " Maybe they want to make more robots."
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"text": " Robots that make robots."
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"text": " Yeah, exactly."
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"text": " What are some other things Google might do with a robot?"
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"text": " What kind of businesses is Google in?"
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"text": " Advertising."
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"text": " Sex bots."
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"text": " No, they're not in that business."
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"text": " Well, we don't know what any room is doing."
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"text": " He's been pulled up for a long time."
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"text": " Oh geez."
},
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"start": 897.08,
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"text": " Oh boy."
},
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"text": " Oh no."
},
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"start": 899.08,
"end": 900.08,
"text": " Here we go again."
},
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"text": " Oh, this is one too?"
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"text": " Oh my God."
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"text": " Like, hey, we made a huge cockroach."
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"text": " How do you feel about this?"
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"text": " So Google is going to space."
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"text": " This is like a baby, it's like a baby robot crawling."
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"text": " Now mark my words, this is the kind of thing that will street view map the moon after Google"
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"text": " Well that's, okay, there you go."
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"text": " Maybe they're going to, maybe they want to have a space explorer robots."
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"text": " Maybe they want to send robots into space."
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"text": " But why?"
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"text": " What does Google get out of it?"
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"text": " Is that a business for them?"
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"text": " What is Google?"
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"text": " I mean, what about robots that walk around with ads on them?"
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"text": " Robots that have those boards that stand outside of businesses with the boards like two for"
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"text": " one and hand out flyers."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I mean, it's an advertising."
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"text": " The guy that holds the subway sign is going to lose his job."
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"text": " It's an ad robot."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " All of Google's weird crap that they do, loon and I don't know."
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"text": " Everything makes sense to me is like, oh, well yeah, you care about internet except"
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"text": " driverless cars."
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"text": " I'm not really clear on why other than maybe it's a huge investment opportunity and this."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I mean, maybe the, maybe the next smartphone is a helper robot."
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"text": " stuff."
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"text": " Even if you don't know how to commercialize it exactly."
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"start": 967,
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"text": " This stuff is now, right?"
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"text": " I mean, imagine in five or 10 years if they really accelerate this stuff."
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"text": " I mean, I think that, that, and maybe by the way that is like, you know, Siri, the next"
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"text": " evolution of Siri and your smartphone is a, is an assistant that walks around with you,"
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"text": " like an actual physical thing that walks around with you."
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"text": " This could definitely set up like a sequel to her, a new Spike Jonze film."
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"text": " Well now we can have a super sex bot that can climb."
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " They have a long way to go to making like human shaped bots, right?"
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"text": " That's the, they're not making human size and human shaped bots."
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"text": " And we're back."
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"text": " Oh God."
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"text": " No."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Seriously, do you, do you have any guesses?"
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"text": " I don't."
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"text": " No."
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"text": " Like this isn't just a lark."
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"text": " Like no way."
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"text": " No way."
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"text": " Is it going to make it all the way up there?"
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " This is amazing."
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"text": " Oh my God."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " So that's Amazon delivery right there."
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"text": " There you go."
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"text": " No, it's like when I think of the first thing I think of this is like, you know, helping"
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"text": " I mean, they start selling this stuff to the government."
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"text": " And it's, it's going to be just fine."
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"text": " What's the, what's the, what is this thing?"
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"text": " What's he going to do here?"
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"text": " You know what he's going to do."
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"text": " No way."
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"text": " No way."
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"text": " Oh, there we go."
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"text": " I could watch these all day."
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"text": " I have to say it is unbelievable."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " That his personal goal was just to play with robots."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " But did he have a step two?"
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"text": " I think they're going to, they're, they're pursuing a specific robotic goal to do something"
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"text": " God."
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"text": " If that's true, that's insane."
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"text": " Hey buddy."
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"text": " I mean, I guess we're starting to see, Hey, it's sober too."
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"text": " Look at that."
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"text": " Oh, so that's finally, that's something that no human can, they're really into abusing"
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"text": " Well that's actually, that's like the idea of prosthetics."
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"text": " So like imagine like this technology, you wouldn't do someone's prosthetic leg."
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"text": " It could actually like, you could control it in a much better way."
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"text": " You probably put like a gun on it too."
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"text": " Exactly."
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"text": " Those pops out and it's controlled with Google glass."
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"text": " Yeah, exactly."
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"text": " Um, all right."
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"text": " What else is in the news?"
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"text": " What else is happening?"
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"text": " We have no answers on the, I just like to say that we officially have zero answers at this"
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"text": " Oh yeah."
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"text": " This one's great."
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"text": " This is exactly like the most horrific thing that I've ever thought of."
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"text": " Like, like, no, no, no, no."
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"text": " Put the suit back on him."
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"text": " Cause what I want to do is I want to picture that thing."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I want to picture that guy with the faithful face mask."
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"text": " Quarantine war zone right here."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Like, well, Hey, why does the bot need a gas mask?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I'm sorry."
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"text": " You, what did you engineer?"
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"text": " The, you know, the robot actually dies if it breathes in dangerous gases."
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"text": " I, you don't like, what is the gas mask for?"
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"text": " Just to scare me, I think is the answer."
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"text": " This seriously is upsetting."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " That's fair."
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"text": " Is that correct?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Cool."
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"text": " That's really encouraging."
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"text": " Bigger than a moonshot."
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"text": " All right."
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"text": " What else?"
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"text": " What else?"
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"text": " So Tim Cook, Marissa Meyer, Reed Hastings, Eric Schmidt, and Zingacy."
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"text": " What about, what about, what about?"
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"text": " One of these things is not like the other."
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"text": " Went to meet with Obama to talk."
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"text": " Advice on, I think, yeah."
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"text": " No, that's what I'm saying."
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"text": " Oh yeah."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And so Pinkus apparently asked Obama or suggested to Obama that he pardon Edward Snowden."
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"text": " Obama said he couldn't do that."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And then, and then, and then had him removed."
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"text": " He is president."
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"text": " I think he meant, I think what he meant, let me explain, Dieter."
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"text": " I think he meant that there were reasons that he would not do it."
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"text": " Not that he physically or like technically."
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"text": " I was having flashbacks to my childhood when I asked, can I, can I?"
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"text": " Well, at any rate."
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"text": " Which is probably exactly how that conversation went."
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"text": " I think, I think, um, wait, that's Sheryl Sandberg."
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"text": " Oh, maybe it was her instead of Zuckerberg."
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"text": " It's a little odd."
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"text": " Yeah, it's Sheryl."
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"text": " It must be Sheryl, yeah."
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " This looks like a very uncomfortable conversation."
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"text": " To me, this looks like a horrifically uncomfortable conversation."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " That's the story, right?"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " That's insane, you know?"
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"text": " Which it was also the opposite of what happened in her last album."
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"text": " Her album four was, they had Target exclusive video and packaging and rapping."
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"text": " Like there was a close relationship and this just obviously pissed them off to no end."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I mean, I think what's most impressive is that just the level, I mean the level of general"
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"text": " That's the other thing."
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"text": " No."
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"text": " It was a- What is it?"
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"text": " You forget, you know, you forget that record happened, but I don't know."
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"text": " Speaking of sex, speaking of sexy stuff, Ross's pants are vibrating."
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"text": " Unrelated, unrelated to the new Beyonce record."
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"text": " This is disgusting and upsetting."
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"text": " Oh yeah."
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"text": " Well, so anyhow, but Trent made a point that Rihanna and other popular, you know, Miley"
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"text": " Why not?"
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"text": " I'll tell you why not."
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"text": " Yeah, we're just going very, very."
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"text": " No, but now we're, I love the footage."
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"text": " This would be the Drunk in Love video."
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"text": " This is, this is intense."
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"text": " This is what $17 gets you."
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"text": " This is the future of the urge cast actually."
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"text": " Yeah, it's just Beyonce."
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"text": " Beyonce and we talk about it while she dances."
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"text": " But anyhow, have you, did you buy the album?"
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"text": " Not yet."
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"text": " Lisa did not buy it?"
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"text": " No."
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"text": " You?"
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"text": " Of course I did."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I have not bought it."
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"text": " Really?"
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"text": " No, but I've heard several and seen several videos from it."
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"text": " I just, to be honest with you, I need to set aside time to experience all of Beyonce."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " See, I knew that if I did not buy day one and know it by the end of day one, I would"
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"text": " Is that, is that really what happened?"
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"text": " It just, you know, it's a threat thereof."
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"text": " Is that the kind of situation you've got?"
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"text": " You need to be."
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"text": " Just to be safe."
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"text": " So first off, we should, can we talk about this ad?"
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"text": " Yeah, we've had this the whole time."
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"text": " Do you want me to?"
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"text": " Yeah, I think Billy's running in to help us out with this."
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"text": " So hold on."
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"text": " I don't know if you guys have seen this."
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"text": " We did."
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"text": " Oh yeah, we did."
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"text": " So check it out."
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"text": " This is a print ad that is running."
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"text": " Let me find the best angle."
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"text": " Hold on."
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"text": " Nope."
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"text": " That's not the best angle."
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"text": " Nope."
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"text": " That's not the best angle."
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"text": " I'm trying to get the glare off."
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"text": " And also Billy, oh boy."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Anyhow, this is good enough."
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"text": " So this is an ad that's running in Wired and a bunch of other magazines."
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"text": " It is insane."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " Hold on."
},
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"text": " Let me check some, do some other colors here."
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"text": " So how do they pull this off?"
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"text": " So obviously there's lights in here."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " And you can actually, if you look in the back, you can see the strip of lights right there"
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"text": " shining upwards."
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"text": " Oh yeah."
},
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"text": " But it's, I mean, but look at some of these, the colors they get out of this is, it's kind"
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"text": " of insane."
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"text": " And I got to say it's easily one of the, is this the right color?"
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"text": " Hold on."
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"text": " It's a, I think we might've broken it a little bit from using it so much."
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"text": " Really like pink."
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"text": " But this is, yeah, this is one of the craziest ads."
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"text": " I mean, that's pretty good."
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"text": " Who did the ad?"
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"text": " It was had a phone embedded in the ad and it could get like text messages."
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"text": " I know Mashable wrote about it."
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"text": " That's right."
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"text": " As far as ads go, print ads, it's like next level."
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"text": " And the bamboo one is available now for a hundred bucks."
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"text": " Oh yeah, the bamboo back is available."
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"text": " Is C6906."
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"text": " Wait, this is not the Google Play Edition Z."
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"text": " Did you see my password?"
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"text": " Did everybody just see my password?"
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"text": " Those top row quick toggles are either amazing or terrible."
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"text": " So, wait, hold on."
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"text": " You didn't have to worry about it when it was in the snow or it rains."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " That's a care I don't want to have."
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"text": " Samsung has the flagship S4 and then 40 other phones, different various sizes and markets."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " So I think that, I think that it just requires, I mean, actually."
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"text": " Is the software skin really good?"
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"text": " Cause Sony used to be terrible."
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"text": " So I've disabled everything that's like pretty much everything that Sony is specific."
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"text": " You can do this."
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"text": " The user customizer, they're not hacking anything."
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"text": " I'm not hacking anything."
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"text": " There's a couple of things like, you know, they've reskinned the contacts app and the"
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " Very minor, very minor."
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"text": " I do anyhow."
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"text": " The camera?"
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"text": " No, Twitter rant."
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"text": " No, I'm like, oh, but the app."
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"text": " Basically what I'm saying is, uh, it is surprisingly the same for the most part."
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"text": " Yeah."
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"text": " I mean the vast majority of things I'm doing, I mean I think Google hit a point where the"
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"text": " Are you joking?"
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"text": " Yes."
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"text": " I couldn't tell if you were kidding or not because I just thought it was weird."
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"text": " Like you're going to, like they changed the home."
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"text": " They changed the home back and multitask button."
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"text": " I love this is all, I love this part of the verge cast when Billy has to turn on this TV"
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"text": " Very nice job, Billy."
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"text": " Excellent work."
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"text": " And then, you know, actually on that note, like I think we have to wrap up because I,"
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"text": " unfortunately we started late and we're ending early because I have to go to a meeting."
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"text": " There's one thing we need to note though."
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"text": " Next week is Christmas, obviously."
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"text": " Next week is Xmas."
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"text": " And the studio is shut down."
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"text": " Right."
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"text": " And the week after we're flying out to CES."
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"text": " Oh yeah."
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"text": " That's probably the last one."
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"text": " Is this the last verge cast of the year?"
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"text": " For the studio at least?"
},
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"text": " Uh, yes."
},
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"text": " Is it really?"
},
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"text": " I mean, studio is shut down next week."
},
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"text": " What?"
},
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"text": " Really?"
},
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"text": " And then we fly out for CES."
},
{
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"text": " Well, you're saying we don't have a verge cast between now and CES?"
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"text": " We might."
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"text": " That doesn't sound right to me."
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"text": " We won't have it here though."
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"text": " We won't have it here."
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"text": " Where will it be?"
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"text": " You can have one on the second for sure."
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"text": " Where would we be on the second?"
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"text": " I don't know."
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"text": " That seems like a long time."
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"text": " Okay."
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"start": 3238.08,
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"text": " You know what?"
},
{
"start": 3239.08,
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"text": " Let's not get hung up on this."
},
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},
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"text": " We're going to be here for you."
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"text": " We're not going anywhere."
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"text": " We're going to have an enormous amount of coverage, we have all kinds of crazy stuff"
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"text": " We're going to have a bigger, better, nastier studio there, which we're very excited about."
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"text": " And of course we're going to be doing a bunch of video shows, but the verge cast will be"
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"text": " one of them."
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"text": " And we'll be doing essentially a week of verge casts."
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"text": " Every day."
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"text": " Every night, drunkenly verge casting for your pleasure."
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"text": " We promise the drunk part."
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"text": " Definitely."
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"text": " And it's going to be very exciting."
},
{
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"text": " So yeah, so this is our, you know, actually we should have done something."
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"text": " Garland or mistletoe so we could kiss each other or, you know, lower mistletoe."
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"text": " We could hold the Mac Pro."
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"text": " Lower mistletoe."
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"text": " The Mac Pro?"
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"text": " Does anybody know what lower mistletoe is?"
},
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"text": " No."
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"text": " It's mistletoe for other stuff."
},
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"text": " You know what I mean?"
},
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"text": " Oh."
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"text": " Somebody in the control room."
},
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"text": " Who was that speaking?"
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"text": " That would probably be our sound guy, Will."
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"text": " That's right."
},
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"start": 3290.36,
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"text": " On your junk."
},
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"text": " They can't hear you, but junk was mentioned."
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"text": " Anyhow, the point is we were not very festive in here and that's kind of disappointing."
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"text": " Okay."
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"text": " So that, I guess that's where you're wrapping up then."
},
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"text": " Yeah."
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{
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"text": " But yeah, we see us is coming and more verge cast, a lot more verge cast is coming."
},
{
"start": 3306.32,
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"text": " Unfortunately for you unlucky people out there in cyberspace, but bringing cyberspace back."
},
{
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"text": " More better and happy news."
},
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"start": 3314.88,
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"text": " More better."
},
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"start": 3315.88,
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"text": " More better."
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"text": " And happy news."
},
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"text": " And coherent speaking."
},
{
"start": 3318.88,
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"text": " More news."
},
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"text": " You're saying more happy news."
},
{
"start": 3321.1600000000003,
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"text": " More happy news."
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"text": " We make words good future."
},
{
"start": 3324.52,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " Anyhow, that's the verge cast for this week."
},
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"text": " And you know what a verge cast it was."
},
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"start": 3330.76,
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"text": " It was, it was, it had its moments."
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"text": " It was a, it was, it was a verge cast."
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"text": " Yes it was."
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"text": " I don't think any of us feel that."
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"text": " I don't think any of us feel like we did gave a hundred percent here today."
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"text": " Do we?"
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"text": " I feel like I was at like 75 maybe."
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"text": " It's like four or five days till Christmas."
},
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"start": 3343.8,
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"text": " Yeah."
},
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"text": " I'm, I'm ready to, I'm ready to just jam on some eggnog."
},
{
"start": 3347.8,
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"text": " Okay."
},
{
"start": 3348.8,
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"text": " Get a candy cane out."
},
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"text": " Some lower mistletoe."
},
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"start": 3351.86,
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"text": " I am going to murder a gingerbread house."
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"text": " Jam on some eggnog."
},
{
"start": 3354.94,
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"text": " Get some Bing, some Bing Crosby."
},
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"start": 3357.94,
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"text": " I'm getting flattered everywhere."
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"text": " Get Bing up, get Bing up on my Xbox one."
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"text": " Get some Bing Crosby on the, on the, uh, Bing, Bing Crosby."
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"text": " Bing on a Bing, Bing Crosby."
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"text": " And then get him going on the stereo system and uh, get my Santa, get my Santa suit on."
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"text": " Xbox jingle my bells."
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"text": " I think Will just said that."
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"text": " That's the lower mistletoe."
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"text": " Hockey mask, hockey mask."
},
{
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"text": " Yeah, yeah."
},
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"text": " Santa suit."
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"text": " Right."
},
{
"start": 3386.68,
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"text": " No bottoms."
},
{
"start": 3387.68,
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"text": " No eggnog."
},
{
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"end": 3389.68,
"text": " Lower mistletoe."
},
{
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"text": " That's been me for the next week."
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{
"start": 3390.68,
"end": 3391.68,
"text": " There you go."
},
{
"start": 3391.68,
"end": 3392.68,
"text": " Flutter shop challenge."
},
{
"start": 3392.68,
"end": 3393.68,
"text": " Yeah."
},
{
"start": 3393.68,
"end": 3394.68,
"text": " And that's the Vergecast for this week."
},
{
"start": 3394.68,
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"text": " Uh, as always, you can get in touch with us by, uh, uh, sending us an email at Vergecast"
},
{
"start": 3398.3199999999997,
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"text": " at the verge.com."
},
{
"start": 3399.3199999999997,
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"text": " You can leave a comment in the post when it goes up."
},
{
"start": 3401.24,
"end": 3405.72,
"text": " You can start a thread on the forums, forum on our, in our forums."
},
{
"start": 3405.72,
"end": 3406.72,
"text": " You know what I'm saying?"
},
{
"start": 3406.72,
"end": 3407.72,
"text": " You know what this week needs to end."
},
{
"start": 3407.72,
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"text": " Um, you can, you can also find us on, on Twitter."
},
{
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"text": " Uh, now publicly traded Twitter."
},
{
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"text": " Verge is at verge."
},
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"text": " I'm Joshua Topolsky, uh, uh, uh, I was going to say Neely."
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"text": " That's how out of it I am."
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