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Okay, good morning everybody. How are you today? I |
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don't see many students coming today to the class. |
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I know it is because of the midterm exam. And this |
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is a pity because we said several times, when |
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there is a midterm exam, you cannot absent |
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yourself from class. Anyway, today's class will be |
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like this. We're going, as usual, to listen to a |
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couple of reports. Then we are going to debate |
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about the interpretation, the several or the |
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several possible interpretations of the tiger. |
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And, you know, we're going to debate. If there is |
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like, if we finish with a debate, it would be a |
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nice idea. Okay? So let's start. Let's see who is |
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reporting today. Yes, please. |
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Good morning. |
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It was a shock for the student when Dr. Akram |
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asked for all students daily reports. But it |
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wasn't like that for me because I always write my |
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reports. Many students start writing their reports |
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in lecture, so teacher didn't accept them. |
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According to the Tiger, it was really a little bit |
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difficult, but it needs more analysis and |
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explanation. And actually this time wasn't Dr. |
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Akram who explained it, but it was Mr. Ahlam, Mrs. |
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Ahlam. It was a nice and clear explanation, |
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although we didn't share a lot. Oh, I forgot to |
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say that Dr. Akram read the poem in a nice way, |
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and then commented that Mr. Ahlam's explanation |
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was nice, and that it reminded him of the best |
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days when she was his student. Yes. Thank you very |
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much. Another report. Yes, Khawla. |
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It was the lecture of the poem, Which I Like, The |
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Tiger, by William Blake. Ms. Ahlam attended the |
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lecture and she did her presentation in a nice |
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way. I like her thinking of some words in the |
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poem, but before that Dr. Akram asked each student |
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wrote a report to submit it to him. Unfortunately, |
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I didn't write for that lecture. After that, some |
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students read their reports and Dr. Akram started |
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the lecture by some analysis for the poem. In |
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addition to that, Dr. Akram shared Ms. Ahlam with |
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her presentation. Ms. Ahlam focused in his |
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analysis on the words and the words and its |
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reflects. So Dr. Akram said that he will continue |
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the whole poem in more details next lecture. So I |
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didn't forget to write my report. Okay, thank you |
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very much. In fact, last time Ms. Ahlan conducted |
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what is called deconstruction |
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or deconstructive analysis. She used a theory |
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called the theory of deconstruction. She was |
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looking about the binaries, like the opposites, |
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like the mild and the violent. you know, the |
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strong and the weak, the mighty and the |
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vulnerable, you know, the sublime and the |
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beautiful. So it was a good insight into the poem. |
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And I think it was appropriate because it was |
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suitable for, I mean, the philosophy of Blake |
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himself, because Blake didn't see life in black |
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and white. He saw it like he didn't see them like |
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contrasting, but he saw them complementary. And in |
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the marriage between earth and heaven, like he saw |
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evil and good going side by side. |
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Today we're going to have another look. And most |
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of the critics, when they want, because this poem |
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is symbolic. It is full of rhetorical questions. |
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What immortal hand? What the hand? What the |
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shoulders? What is the place? So all, you know, |
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the questions were concentrated on |
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like the act of making, the act of creating, the |
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act of forming. And that act involved two things. |
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It involved power, physical power, that involved |
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also an eye, an artistic skill. So because he was |
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asking about what the art, what the eye. In fact, |
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the poem became a little bit confusing As I said, |
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some critics said it was about the Industrial |
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Revolution. Other critics said it was about the |
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French Revolution or the American Revolution |
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because it was the age of revolutions. Other |
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thought that it was a poetic It was a revolution |
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against the rules and the poetic restrictions of |
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the Neoclassical. So in both, in all these cases, |
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we find that it is about revolution. Now I want to |
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start, because we are supposed to debate, And I |
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was going to take the side of revolution, so I |
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prepared some videos to show you how England was |
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Industrial Revolution. How the life, you know, of |
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the countryside, how it changed, how everything |
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was transformed. And how the countryside lost its |
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purity because of mechanization, how the social |
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arena was transformed. So it had its dire |
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consequences. And even the farms were enclosed |
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because everything was was important in terms of |
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materialism. So the farms, the landscape lost its |
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vast nature because it was open. Now it is |
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partitioned because they were interested in |
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grazing animals and raising profits. So the |
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countryside lost its beauty. And, you know, |
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mechanization was there. So let's see some videos |
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and hopefully you see how was England like. |
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This is how the |
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English countryside transformed. |
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of animals in a distant realm of church bells bore |
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the stories of romance here. Yemen was a land of |
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great social inequality. A handful of aristocrats |
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and rulers possessed by right of birth nearly all |
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of the incredible wealth it yielded. They built |
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magnificent palaces for themselves and filled them |
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with treasure. Down in a group of slower classes, |
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most of whom owned no land, struggled to survive. |
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These poor people sometimes faced severe |
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malnutrition and even starvation. They usually |
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died young. With this as a background, let us find |
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out what great changes were to occur as a result |
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of industrialization. |
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The first industrial revolution began in England |
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for several reasons. First, she possessed rich |
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deposits of iron and coal, resources essential to |
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industrialization. Second, England had many |
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reliable sources of water power. And third, |
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numerous colonies around the world supplied her |
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with abundant raw materials, like this cotton. And |
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at the same time, it provided |
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England was. As you see, industrial revolution was |
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indispensable. Industrial revolution was there |
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because of the labor, was the raw material from |
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the colonies, mainly America. So they started to |
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industrialize or to invent machines and those |
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machines, and necessary for industry, changed the |
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face, the social arena, the political arena, |
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everything. And England became like a plant or a |
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factory producing, working for the world. And with |
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these emergent values, like the countryside lost |
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its purity, you know, and it was seen like a |
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monster because, you know, machine replaced man, |
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children were abused, women were abused, like, |
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because they were working in factories, even like, |
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you know, slums, dirty slums were created, and a |
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lot of crimes even happened. So Blake wrote that |
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poem, and some critics thought it was about the |
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Industrial Revolution. Others, as I said, thought |
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it was about the |
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creation of poetry. So we are going to have the |
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poem in front of us and now to debate whether it |
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is about industrial revolution and whether about |
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like poetic imagination. So let's see quickly who |
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wants to be, like Amal, do you want to be on this |
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side? This is the industrial revolution. Okay, |
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Hidayat, do you want to be in this side? I can |
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help both. Yes, I encourage more students. What do |
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you want, which side? The industrial. Okay, the |
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industrial, you come here. Poetry. Poetry, you |
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come here. So have some chairs. |
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Okay, yes. Who will join these people? |
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Yes. Why are you scared? I'm going to help. Both. |
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Okay. Who wants to come to this side? What is it |
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about? It is about poetic creation? Okay, what do |
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you think? Let's start. |
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If you want, like, I'm going to help both of you. |
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Like here, if you look at the word frame, frame |
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has to do with what? Frame, to shape, to design. |
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support, you know, those who think it is about |
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art. But the word chain and the word horror, the |
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word hammer would support the Industrial |
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this group. What do you think? First of all, first |
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like two contradictory things, like evil and good. |
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so, and like human were so taken by the industrial |
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revolution. And so there was like the evil part of |
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them. So he's like, I think he's saying that the |
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industrial revolution is like, A monster. A |
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monster that's taking over the human soul. Okay, |
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and I do agree with her because, you know, here |
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the tiger is presented to us not like an animal, |
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an ordinary animal, but rather as a monster, you |
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know, frightening the people. What do you want to |
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say? No, I didn't think because Because he means |
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the positive things and sides in what you said. |
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something attractive. Excellent, yes. And fearful |
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symmetry. |
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because here In fact, it was yesterday that I |
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realized we have another oxymoron here. Because |
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something dissipating the darkness, because if we |
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bright, then it is positive. Symmetry. So poetry |
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is an act of symmetry, isn't it? This is what you |
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want to say. And poetry, because poetry, you know, |
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sometimes, look, some revolutions were supported |
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by poetry. I think, you know, the Egyptian |
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sitting in Tahrir Square and they were chanting, |
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you know, poetic things. And those poetic, you |
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know, lines gave power to the revolution. So |
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nobody can ignore the power of poetry in inciting |
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people. provoking people, giving them this |
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momentum. So it is seen by Blake here, the poetry, |
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the power of poetry is like the power of this |
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light, which is burning in the forest of the |
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night. So here, if you want, and this is, I think |
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she's talking about the darkness. Darkness is |
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associated with political injustice, with |
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political despotism. And poetry, you know, |
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imagination, the poetic revolution, or the power |
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of poetry can be a protest against this. Can it |
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change? Because poetry has this power to change. |
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Okay? I want to say about Marilyn Monroe.like the |
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idea of fuel like burning fuel to get energy and |
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to machines and so they design new things like the |
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cement fearful symmetry, like design something |
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beautiful. And like the, of night, like they |
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working unstoppable. Like they always work, work. |
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So it's like the idea of industrial revolution. |
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Yeah, she began by saying that the tiger stands |
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for evil, the making of evil. So we can say that |
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the tiger could stand for the machines as being |
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the evil thing. And the burning is the burning of |
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the machines and stuff like that. So, but why are |
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the machines like evil? Like the question is why? |
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Ah, they replaced people. Okay. Do you have any |
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evidence like in the poem which shows that the |
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poet was complaining that this is evil? Evil |
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creature? This is evil creature? |
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Okay. Do you have any evidence like this? Of |
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course, the words like fearful and who used to be |
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night? Night? |
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place for romanticism. It's like the word |
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immortal, supernatural power, it's something that |
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makes you fear or scared. |
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Yes, go ahead. No, I think the tiger here, okay it |
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is fearful because it is when anything new appear |
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for people, they will be scared and fear and avoid |
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it. But when they come close to it and analyze it |
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and deal with it, they will be familiar and love |
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it. Like there, his poet and his style of writing |
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is new, So, like, people is dependent and familiar |
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with other parts of style of writing, but when |
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they become close and know what is this writing |
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about, they will love it and will be... So, they |
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can change their mind? Yes, yes. And you think |
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this is like, you know, similar to this symmetry |
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and like, you know? Yes. And he also... It's kind |
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of a tiger, his shoulder, his eyes. I think it's a |
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responsible thing or something you know. So with |
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the creation, you mean? Yes. Yes? What do you want |
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to say? This poem, I think, is about two themes, |
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nature and the industrial revolution. Nature is... |
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So you are betraying, like, you're helping them, |
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you know? No, I'm not helping them, but it is |
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obvious. I mean, it is used... You can come here. |
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Okay, who can replace her? No, I'm an objective. |
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Okay. Okay. Now it is it is logical that William |
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the beginnings of the industrial revolution. So it |
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was the theme of their lives. I mean, ordinary |
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people in their daily speeches, they were talking |
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about this revolution. So it was he was motivated |
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by this theme, but As a romantic poet, he chose a |
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figure of nature, the tiger. The tiger is a very |
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beautiful animal. He tried to explain to clear the |
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idea about him and taking it as a symbol of this |
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industrial revolution. Blake wasn't trying to |
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express something instantly about this industry, |
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but he was I guess dealing with this tiger issue, |
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but being affected by this revolution. You cannot |
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make up your mind. I think if you look at the |
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were about the process of creation. He asked about |
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the hand, the shoulder, so it was about the |
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creation. Now the question is, does the creation |
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of poetry require this effort? |
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It's spontaneous. |
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And the assumption is like poetry, you know, just |
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like poets write poetry without feeling the pain |
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and the experience. What do you want to say? Okay. |
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I mean, why would you say effort? Yeah, but like- |
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Why would you say effort? Because, you know, they |
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need to- I don't see effort being blamed here, |
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because he's being, he has been spontaneous, he |
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has been just himself, he's a real poet. But like, |
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I think, you know, we are not honest to our, you |
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know, honest to words worth definition of poetry, |
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when he said poetry is a spontaneous overflow, of |
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powerful feelings recollected in tranquility. And |
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here, when you say recollected in tranquility, it |
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means like the writing of poetry needs hard work. |
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It's not easy. You keep changing. It is |
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spontaneous. But what is spontaneous? It is not |
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the act of writing poetry. It is not the act of |
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saying poetry. It is the feeling which is |
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spontaneous. So I think, you know, poetry involves |
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craftsmanship. And sometimes poets suffer, fret, |
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in order to, you know, produce this poem. It is |
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not easy. Anyone can express his emotion, but not |
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in a poetic way. Yeah, not in a poetic way, |
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because, you know, if you want to be a poet, you |
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need like to fret more and more. Okay, yes. It |
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seems like the students are unprepared today, you |
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know. It is because you are having exam. But let |
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me, when he complains, like, what red hand, what |
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red feet? Like, when their heart began here. |
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Like, when he said, |
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When the stars know what shoulder, yes. And when |
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their heart began to beat, what red hand, what red |
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feet? Do you think, you know here, this |
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questioning involves any fascination? Like fearful |
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symmetry? Like burning bright? What red hand, what |
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red feet? I think here, he's complaining. What |
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dread hand, dread hand, or dread feet? This is |
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very frightening. This is very scary. Isn't it? |
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Yeah, but no, I think, you know, questioning here, |
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what dread hand, what dread feet? Like he's, you |
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know, I mean, the tiger is seen as a monster here. |
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It is like a mythological creature. You see? It is |
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not like any animal. Wadded hand, wadded feet. So |
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I think, you know, this shows a complaint that it |
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was about industrial revolution. And look here, |
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the hole, the hammer, the furnace. It is like a |
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goldsmith. I'm sorry, I'm not helping you. No, I |
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want to say that yes, it is about industrial |
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revolution. It's the time of industrial |
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revolution, but because he wants to make a poetic |
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revolution, he cannot say it is directly. So he |
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wants to use this means in a very symbolic way. |
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Even if he speaks about the industrial revolution, |
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he wants to convey something other. So I think you |
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know what you might think also because this is an |
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open debate in fact. I'm not going to close it |
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today. It's an open debate. I want you to think |
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further about this. Is it about poetic |
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imagination? Or is it about industrial revolution? |
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And this is what I want you to research. So I want |
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to close this debate. It is part of an assignment |
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I'm giving you, and we'll talk about this |
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assignment later. It might be a supplement to your |
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midterm exam, which I'm going to give you in a |
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minute. So I would like to thank both teams for |
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sharing with me and we'll see next time we're |
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going like to continue. Thank you very much. |
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