dialogue: Michaela: So what do you guys think about the association idea?
  Ron: I might be lacking the context here
  Michaela: Basically we were thinking of turning the club into an official association, so it's easier to get funds for events for example
  Jessie: I'm torn actually - I get why it would help with funds, cooperation with other institutions and such, but I researched it and it involves quite a bit of paperwork.
  Steve: And someone to take care of it permanently, cause it doesn't end at setting up the association - you have to do it every year.
  Michaela: These are exactly the kind of things that I wanted to discuss with you. Do we have anyone willing to take care of the paperwork? Doesn't have to be one person.
  Steve: Frankly, I don't see anyone doing this - we all have jobs, barely have time for meetings sometimes and it's a ton of responsibility
  Ron: The question is - do the profits of being an association surpass the costs - like the amount of time and work we put into it? There are also some financial costs, are there?
  Michaela: yeah, like a small fee when you set it up, but nothing more really.
  Jessie: so what do we get from it really?
  Michaela: maybe the cost of a rubber stamp.
  Michaela: for example here are subsidies the city gives out every year, but to apply you need to be a formal association <file_other>
  Ron: and there was this time when that community center refused to work with us, because we weren't an association
  Jessie: I think there were two times we were rejected cause of that actually
  Michaela: I recall two as well
  Steve: but do we truly need those subsidies? We've worked for almost 4 years without them and for me that was the beauty of it - that you can organize events without spending tons of money on it, just with collective effort.
  Steve: I'm just afraid we're gonna lose this sense of an informal get-together, it's all just gonna turn into a business and will create tensions between us. I've seen it happen to clubs like ours
  Ron: it's not necessarily going to happen to us and we could make some better events with more funding
  Michaela: association is not a business, we're not gonna start selling things. It's just about access to the possibilities that's we're denied right now cause we're not a formal association
  Jessie: well... I could help out with the paperwork, but not alone. I'd say 2 more people would be enough to make this work
  Michaela: as this was my idea, I can help too, just a matter of dividing our work properly
  Ron: I can't take up additional responsibilities right now with all that's been going on, so I won't be able to help, buy if y'all agree it's a good idea, I'm going to support it
  Michaela: Steve?
  Steve: I don't know man, I like things the way they are right now
  Michaela: Ok, maybe it's better to talk about this in person. Is Monday after the meeting ok for you all?
  Steve: yup, I can stay a bit longer
  Jessie: Fine by me
  Ron: as well
summary: Michaela proposed turning the club into an official association, which involves additional responsibilities, but also gives new possibilities. Jessie is not sure, but might help with the paperwork. Steve is oppose to the idea. Michaela, Jessie, Steve and Ron will discuss it in person on Monday. 