char: TO HIM THE PRESENCE OR ABSENCE OF HIS WIFE'S SISTER WAS A MATTER OF INDIFFERENCE
phn: T UW HH IH M DH AH P R EH Z AH N S AO R AE B S AH N S AH V HH IH Z W AY F S S IH S T ER W AA Z AH M AE T ER AH V IH N D IH F R AH N S